My 12 year old cousin plays games with a Youtube walkthrough open on a second monitor. If he doesn't know where to go next for more than 5 seconds? Looks it up. Can't solve a puzzle in 20 seconds? Looks it up. He says all his friends play this way and he thinks anyone who doesn't is stupid, he's "got too much to do to waste time getting stuck on a video game."You guys wonder why AAA Slop Games insist on minimaps, quest markers, yellow paint, etc. Well there you have it.
I want to throw many many children down very long flights of stairs.
>>733777143Time is actually speeding up so yeah he shouldnt even waste time on video games
based zoomers make all them uncs seethe
He says when he was playing games with a guide open and written down number to a Nintendo hotline
>>733777143Tell him if he plays without constant guides, he'll naturally become smart enough to be the leader of his friend group and actually manage to date chicks (and chicks who are worth dating to boot).
>>733777143I thought 67oomers only played fartnite
>>733777143We unironically have better things to do than look for a hidden door or some garbage, that's for the boomers to figure out for me
>>733777313Why do you waste time playing videogames in the first place?
>>733777143I always play with gamefaqs on my notepad.I didn't do it because I can't finish the game, i just want to get all the bonuses and hidden items on the go.
>>733777143i used to do that with gamefaqs as a kid so I see things don't ever change
>>733777213Zoomers are in their 20s now. It’s Alphas now.Fuckers can’t play Minecraft without some Youtuber telling them what to build.
>>733777389Because it's fun and I don't work
>NOOO PLEASE TAKE MY BING BONG YAHOO SERIOUSLY
>>733777143Zoomies have figured out the left is in control and rewards victimhood and punishes merit. For example, if I'm not doing well at school it doesn't even occur to me how to work harder or more effectively. It's "what disability waiver gets me off the hook?" White boys in particular see that the most average black girl will get a full paid scholarship to Harvard, while they need to hustle and scam like a pajeet. They can't just turn off that mentality when they're playing a game.
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>>733777438>>Zoomers are in their 20s now. It’s Alphas now.Yeah but no one likes to use Alphas when there's nothing alpha about them.
>>733777546baiting or retarded
>>733777143I do this if I want to achievement hunt
>>733777143I used cheat codes as a child. Kids are just like that. As for the guide shit, I'd argue game design is partially at fault. This behavior is encouraged by trial and error guessing games and padding. No one, not kids, not gamer dads, not even NEETs have time to repeat some padded out bullshit over and over until they guess right.You mention stuff like quest markers and yellow paint, but these are also symptoms of bad game design. Try playing a game built around minimap quest markers without the map. It sucks. The world ends up not being designed to accomodate organic exploration and any hints, if present at all, are garbage because devs had the crutch of map markers. Yellow paint exists not because players are retarded but because level design is a dead art and the paint is the cobbled together replacement for that skill.
>>733778004I was stuck in syphon filter 2 as a kid and the cable ferry I took to my friend's house had a cool operator dude that let me chill in the cabin told me I'm supposed to shoot down the lights to tase gregorov
I dont use guides I dont even play games
>>733777143who cares? fuck.
>>733777143i feel like you autists forget that vidya is made for children and for having fun, if cheating gives you fun then you should cheat. vidya is something you play for an hour or two to relax then focus on real life and your real life ambitions and goals that you work hard on instead. timmy is too busy thinking about homework, social climbing, and rizzing up a baddie in his school to be thinking about goyim tier shit like>muh hecking serious vidya!! i have to pay attention and heking take this seriously or something to not offend oldfags on the internet and impress them!!lol
nigger we have an unironic yogscast nostalgia thread up right nowthe zoomers are inside your house
>>733777143I do this and I'm 32
>>733778004>fucking around with cheat codes as a kid is the exact same as ADHD retards needing 3 different sources of stimulus while refusing to experience anything organically on their ownactivating big head mode =/= this shit
>>733778301Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>733777143This is what everyone did when they were young.
>>733778438Anon... you don't prioritize being good at games for kid's over pursuing what you want in real life...do you?
>>733778583Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>733778583>isn't capable of both
>>733778616Who says, we're being ironic or shitposting?>>733778679I like this anon, he's an astute one.
it's called being 12. when I was 12 I played games with Nintendo Power and pic related open right next to me. it took till I was in high school to start appreciating challenge.
>>733778742>Who says, we're being ironic or shitposting?Juan, ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>733778860Rangesh, I'm proud of you for learning some new words today, but please learn the right contexts to use them.
>>733778917>right contextsJuan, ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>plays Resi 1 remake>The horse statue needs the blue gem, not the red one, go back to the other side of the map you stupid idiot. >Plays Silent Hill 1 with Duckstation>Piano puzzleZoomers are stupid but tbf some of the old """puzzles""" are indeed cancer.
>>733777143Gen A are starting to enter the workforce and it's already been documented at length about how they lack basic reasoning and skills, and common sense. We are truly fucked
>>733778994Please ask your witch doctor for more English lessons and do not post until you grow a functioning brain.
Based, life is too short to have shitty vidya waste your time.
>>733778389>ADHD retards needing 3 different sources of stimulus while refusing to experience anything organically on their ownThis is its own much deeper issue that just also overlaps with this one. Even before that problem, most kids had a lower tolerance for the frustrating parts of being challenged and sought to mitigate them. That could be using an infinite lives or ammo cheat or looking up a guide. Now that I think about it, bringing back cheat codes might diminish some of the guide fagging found in children.
>>733777143welcome to kids 20+ years ago retard
>>733779224Nobody used cheat codes just to get through the game you broken English spewing revisionist moron, they used it to fuck around for fun.
>>733779112The oldest gen alphas are like 14. A kid mowing their neighbors' lawns for a little extra money (do alphas even do this?) is not "entering the work force".
>>733777143If they're using walkthroughs no matter how dumb developers make games, I guess there's no point making games dumb anymore, right?
>>733779327I started on construction when I was 15...
>>733778357same, I'm 36 and do this
>>733778994>using a key item in the right spot is a puzzle>using the wrong key item means it's poorly designed>retards still think the piano puzzle is some esoteric conundrum when it's just a basic "Sally ran after Jack, who went before Andy" ordering problem with slight symbolic obfuscationJesus Christ
>>733779327Gen A starts 2010, you can work full-time age 16 in many parts of the world
>>73377714312 yo kids nowadays have a dual monitor setup?
Back in my day I just printed out the entire gamefaq walkthrough and ink also didnt cost a million dollarsI still have 100 pages of FFTactics lying around somewhere
>>733777213Sadly those are Alphies. Zoomers are reaching unc status now t. late 20s zoomer
>>733777295Roblox actually
>>733779278>broken EnglishWhat the fuck are you talking about? Please point to whatever you think is wrong with either of my posts so I can laugh at how brown you are.You also just accidentally admitted that you're a zoomer. You retards love trying to make authoritative claims about times you didn't experience that are obviously false to anyone who was there. I cheated my way through every RTS campaign I played and so did all of my friends who played them.
>>733777143Six seven! :D
>>733777143>Should I hate the system and adults who produce zombie offspring?>No I should alienate the victims so they fall back in the slop they use as escapism
>>733778301>>733778583Video games, like everything digital, are a microcosm of real life. How you play video games is how you "play" real life.If you cheat at games, you cheat at life too.
What should we call them alphas? Alphies? Baby zoomers?
>>733777143>got too much to dolike what?
>>733777143make him play hard games where it doesn't matter if he looks at a playthrough or not
>>733780127Alfalfas.
>>733777143Tell him that only retards need a guide and it was an IQ check (he isn't going to make it)
>>733777213Them uncs tho be taking all the zoomers and alphas girls and dicking them down while they watch rocket league and lift one plate at the gym in packs LMAOLOLL
>>733780127Omegas
>>733779804>Gen A starts 2010That depends on who you ask. I've mostly seen people use a slightly later cutoff. Regardless, I wouldn't consider this "starting to enter the workforce". At least in the Western world, that is still several years out.
desu, it's really fucking weird how kids randomly switch into American youtuber voice now.
>>733777143I live in bumfuck nowhere and even kids here say this six seven shit, fuck you american cunt you have poisoned our younglings
>>733777143What's your criteria for where someone can search up where to go or puzzle? An hour or an entire day
>>733780062Fuck it, you might as well cheat at life. It's not like the deck isn't already stacked against you if you're not born into luck and wealth. It'd be like getting mad at someone for reading non-fiction self help books instead of figuring it out on their own. Even if most self-help books are garbage feel good fluff.
>>733778994>RE puzzles are hardIt's tab A into slot B, bro.
we did the same with text walkthroughs as a kid didn't we
>>733778301Imagine being Indian or Chinese and LARPing from this weird perspectiveYou are brown or yellow
>>733780354watching a bunch of millenial youtubers since they were 4 on their iPads is going to be a werid transfer of knowledge, especially now that gaming is dead and millenials are pivoting to political and social issues now that they've grown up
>>733779879>reaching. If you're late 20's, you've been unc for about four years.
>>733780535Yeah I learned english on GameFAQs
>>733780127Better-zoomers
>>733779879>Concerned with your late 20sYou ain't ready for when you reach the big 30 young catBut unironically it's not that bad, just make sure you actually take care of yourself or you'll end up like one of those faggots who always complain about their back and legst. Unc millennial
>>733777143>My 12 year old cousin plays games with a Youtube walkthrough open on a second monitor. If he doesn't know where to go next for more than 5 seconds?OMG this is sooooo much worse than when I would have my parents buy me a walk through for $25.99 and read through every step how to get absolutely everything so I never got stuck, or look up a walkthrough guide of a game forum for free! GRRRRRR I am so mad at children for not enjoying leasure activities the way I see fit!
>>733780225Like playing 30 different games instead of the 1 you had to stick with, because no money, slow download times and going to the game exchange place takes time and resources.
>>733780428No. I am white and American-born-and-bred and I return my shopping cart after I leave the store and load up my car. I will not negotiate on these terms.I will continue to get upset that people can get ahead in the short term by taking shortcuts, but take greater comfort in the fact that by saving my Full Restores until I'd already beaten the Elite Four, I gained the skills required to reach true enlightenment in the longer term.
>>733780535in my defence I Megaman battle network is full of that part that forces you to go every inch of the map interacting with every object
>>733777219>Calling a stranger on a phone Not even once. Didn't you watch any of the psa's?
>>733778854Yeah when I was 10 I did the same thing.For perfect dark. No other game really required me to get a skill guide or look at GameFAQS. There are a few games that stand out but 90% of games you can literally read context clues and figure it out. It’s almost like that’s how the developers intended it…
>>733777143At least he's playing games unlike /v/
>>733780690>people bought walkthroughs for every gameSee, this is how we know you are in fact a kid who has only second hand knowledge of the old days.
>>733777389You've been playing the same game for over a decade now though.
>>733780730I must have just figured that out somehow.
Real niggas bought the Prima guides for the pictures. The guide itself was secondary to the artwork and screenshots.
>>733780858one of many birds
Timmy is lifemogging you at 12 and will probably grow out of video games by high school
You anons who grew up before youtube was prominent were literally on Gamefaqs to rely for a guide to help you. I don't know what to tell you fellas. Are you going to pretend that you didn't?
>>733780972And then statistically kill himself by 22. Real speed run champs up in this generation.
>>733780704I return my shopping cart too, that's not really some crazy cheat code strat, anon.
>>733781090You would be surprised.
>>733781006yes. I never went to Gamefaqs.
>>733780972This is the truth and I can confirm as a zoomer. Playing videogames your entire childhood leads to you playing just about everything you'd ever want to and then you can shift to money making as an adult. I want to make my own games now.
>>733780789Kek…
>>733781145Much like glowies, you seem to match them with bs
>>733777143Honestly I'm skipping puzzle crap in non-puzzle games too. Some RPGs like Pathfinder do this stupid shit.>Boulder in the way? Use strength check.>Boulder coming your way? Use dexterity check.>Boulder hit you? Use endurance check.>Boulder are supposed to be stacked in certain pattern? lol no you can't use intelligence check with your 300+100 INT character or even your 300+100 PER to get clues, figure that shit yourself so we can inflate your gametime with tedium.
Not a problem In Nortubel
>>733777143My 42 year old uncle plays games with a guide book open next to him. If he doesn't know where to go next for more than 5 seconds? Looks it up. Can't solve a puzzle in 20 seconds? Looks it up. He says all his friends play this way and he thinks anyone who doesn't is stupid, he's "got too much to do to waste time getting stuck on a video game."
So much cope ITT.No, folks, most of us didn't use Gamefaqs or whatever. We actually took less time to finish games, since we didn't have to look up guides and padded out videos, even when we took longer than 20 seconds to find an answer (rare, since we'd have gotten good long ago).What a bunch of retards! lol That's what you get for holding an iPad 24/7 since before you could speak.
>>733777143every day i am reminded that i made the right choice not giving my kids personal devices.
>>733777546"if your not scamming the system youre not doing it right"paki tier behaviourthere are no allies in this war against evil, we must fight alone.
>>733781340i literally never did. I would get a game, and then go and sit in a dark room and play it.You think I'm getting up, walking half way across my house, and firing up my family computer, because I got stuck on a puzzle?
We are about one generation from them not even playing the game, just watching someone play it, then claim to have played it.
>>733777143>My 12 year old cousin plays games with a Youtube walkthrough open on a second monitor. If he doesn't know where to go next for more than 5 seconds? Looks it up.Literally every single soul player is like that
>>733781617That's already happening right now on /v/. Especially any of the culture war stuff.
I used to print entire GameFaqs guide in continuous form paper and follow every line.
>>733777598They're megazoomers. Gigazoomers?
>>733777143There is nothing inherently different between your cousin and you. The difference is the Internet. Young kids have YouTubers telling them how to play a game.Meanwhile you as a kid had to rely on the kid in the playground bullshiting about how his dad works at Nintendo and if you did some convoluted shit like talking to Nurse Joy exactly 69 times and walked 102 steps you can push the truck to get a Mew3.At least Gen Alpha can read the comments to realize that's lies.
>>733781527Why do they have Mario Party bundled with something 16+?
>>733777143Why even play games at this point instead of just watching a playthrough?Also I am scared how future will look if kids can't figure basic shit themselves. Hell, there are 20y old "people" who don't know even how to use a fucking hammer or read analog clock. My dad once told me that he heard one teenager asking another one what a spine is. A FUCKING SPINE. Grim
I want to fuck a zoomer
>>733781954so they have been robbed of all of the magic and mystery of video games, and that's good?
>>733777143I felt proud and somehow smart to finish Myst before anyone else in my circle of friends/family when I was 10. Attention deficiency is realt. nostalgic unc
>>733782081shame zoomers don't have sex
I played Monkey Island last year and looked up about 40% of the puzzles
>>733781954>At least Gen Alpha can read the comments to realize that's lies.That's lame. The bullshit stories were fun. It's probably impossible to recreate, but the idea that stuff like that could be hidden in a game made them more fun to explore. Now everything gets data mined in 10 seconds, the limits are all known, and there is no mystery. That's one of the reasons games get treated more like checklists now.
>>733777143so long as he's having fun what does it matter=
>>733782139no just means shitty puzzles and story games are DOA cuz you can just watch a millenial play it, games are more pure gameplay nowadays
>>733782080It was genuinely understood that newer generations are more tech savy than older ones. This trend was reversed with zoomers and gen alpha.They are worse with tech than Millenials. Most of them cannot comprehend the idea of file locations. Of folders. They think when you download a file it just all goes in a big bucket. No location, everything just goes in a big bucket.
>>733778301>goyim tier shit like>fell for it againBeing a goy is living on autopilot, like Timmy.
>>733782419Time for them to watch thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cZC67wXUTs
>>733781574the system was scamming the people first.All they are doing is fight back.
enough about gen sexers and såyllennials who invented gamefaqs and lets plays
>day 136814692497 of millennials that peaked in high school confusing zoomers with gen alphas
>>733782851Even when I was a young zoomer, I was fed up with every YouTuber being a millennial faggot.
>>733781736>>733777598call them Alphies
>>733777143You're cousin is on sigma grindset
>>733782419What annoys me the most is that I had IT in primary school which taught the basic of using the PC, cyber security etc. Does that mean they just do not teach IT in primary schools anymore or kids are just being that retarded?Also another problem I see in current generations is that they lack basic problem solving skills. In case of using PC they can't even search for solution of their problems on the internet or the only thing they can come up it is asking the one and only ChatGPT, their prophet and savior. Fuck I just remember friends were asking fucking GPT about what food is good to cook during sailing
>>733777143i used to have a rule if i couldnt figure it out in 15 min look it upi need that rule back playing modern games blind is so ass lol
>>733782942same shit different letters
>>733777257gen alpha arent interested in girlsmy little cousin almost got arrested for cybercrimes in middleschool
When going through Witcher 3 after finishing a quest I'd look up what would have happened if made the alternative choices.Looking what would happen before you do it robs you of the experience of playing entirely, you may as well watch a playthrough.
>>733783253>cybercrimes in middleschoolstory?
>>733779112so they're on par with people over 35? nice, nothing changes and my sub sandwich still gets fucked up when i stop by to pick it up, or they bag my groceries with the fucking raw meat dripping juices on my fresh vegetablesold people are as bad if not worse than then alpha. at least gen alpha will listen if you actually show them a solution, boomers will try and fire you if you try and tell them they are wrong
>>733777143Never in my life have i seen such a puncheable face as this moppy haired faggot
>>733782763>fight backThe twist is they're being taught to be lying cheats to get ahead, further eroding trust-based society. The 'system' is working as intended.>victimize yourself to get benefits>shortcuts make you not push yourself academically>normalize being a tumblr-like fag who has a litany of disabilitiesModern academia.
similar thing with my 9yo cousin, not only she can't wait any amount of time for anything, she doesn't want to deal with any setbacks or difficulties
>>733783097ChatGPT is just Google that pretends to be human. As long as you know how to spot when it's hallucinating it's not that bad.
>>733783463shoulder surfed the teacher while they were logging in and he found access to a ton of shit like grades, and also the school's staff list which had a ton of information like full names, contact info like cell numbers, home addresses, and he downloaded a copyone of his retard friends let slip and the administration tried to blow it up like he was a school shooter type collecting school staff info.
>>733783097Putting together a desktop is pretty easy if you know how. The hardest parts is making sure everything is compatible and that one anxious moment where you have to put in the CPU because it's like the most expensive part and it has a bazillion little needles and if your clumsy hands don't put it in juuuuust right you can bend one of them and whoops your expensive CPU is now fucked and worthless.But if you want to impress zoomers with your computer it doesn't matter how powerful it is, just put a bunch of neon LED lights in it because that's what will impress them.
>>733783520modern academics is a joke as isnot only the participation, gamification, but also the rewards from accomplishing.you pay tens of thousands of dollars for a bachelors degree in the US and you are now literally on equal footing with rasheed who signed up for the 4 week "bachelor course" from the indian "university" which is just 3 guys hand editing diploma PNGs to give out to anyone who's brown, except he'll work for 15% of your salary and live with 17 other indians to fund the 7000$ /mo rent in their tech startup neighborhood slave shack
>>733777143And how does this affect you personally?
>>733783830Assembling a pc is like surgery to meIf I even twitch once at the wrong moment I fry the MB and its brickedIn reality I have yet to fuck anything up like that and I did this song and dance about 10 times now, but its still nerve wracking as hell
>>733783958its not that bad, PC parts have more strength than you give them credit fori literally did this for a week or two while i was waiting for a screw set i ordered to come in because i wanted the storage
>>733783958I've gone past that and now I assemble stuff half asleep with socks on carpet. Nothing has ever gone wrong.
>>733777529It's not even about taking things seriously, it's about not being able to think for yourself at all
>>733783520all correct but the best path which is also the hardest is to cheat and still retain the discipline to learn for real even if its not rewarded as much. Any other way you will succumb to playing with a serious handicap.Btw we had the replication crisis published decade ago, tldr is half the social sciences publications cant be replicated, stem was still at something like 20% so the system was already long ago corroded. Better to know and adapt to what you are up against than be gullible and believe the rotten system is earnest.
>>733783958Motherboards are surprisingly sturdy. Watch some repair videos, you'll see the abuse they can take without getting FUBAR'd. imo it's still good to treat them like they're made of porcelain when installing parts, but it's not THAT easy to fuck something up.>>733784078kek
>>733777143It is honestly pretty great how you can do that now. Back in my days you had to buy a book guide.
>>733777143I used to shit on zoomers for being retarded.Then alphas came along and made them all look like geniuses."Gen Alpha". Ironic naming since they couldn't be less alpha if they tried.
>>733777143THis guy needs correction.
>>733784078>>733784080>>733784331Its less about physically breaking them and more about a stray screw touching the circuitry and potencially bridging some leftover charge
>>733784078>its not crashing so its fineanon you can get micro-tears which induce additional resistance that leads to faulty electronics. Worst case your data gets occasional bit flips and slowly corrupts.
>>733778301You don't get it. Imagine I bought and played Dark Souls 2 and I beat it fair and square without cheating. And then I go to school and hear a guy also say he beat Dark Souls 2 and he says he beat it in 2 days when it took me a week. But he cheated. Do you not realized how much cheating diminishes the achievement? People think he and I did the same thing but it is obviously much much different and nobody appreciates how good I really am.
this isnt even an argument. Obviously playing that way is bad for your brain and there is no debate. But people can fuck their minds up as much as they want, they just can't tell you its good or harmless.
>>733783958>>733784080Aside from the CPU if you know what you're doing then putting together a computer is like putting together LEGOs.
>>733777143>My 12 year old cousin plays games with a strategy guide. If he doesn't know where to go next for more than 5 seconds? Looks it up. Can't solve a puzzle in 20 seconds? Looks it up. He says all his friends play this way and he thinks anyone who doesn't is stupid, he's "got too much to do to waste time getting stuck on a video game.">You guys wonder why AAA Slop Games insist on minimaps, quest markers, yellow paint, etc. Well there you have it.
>>733777143And guess what people did back in the old days when they stuck? Either went through the magazine collection to find the one with the games info (or borrowed from someone who did) or call the help hotline if you were real cool. The only thing that actually changed is that it's a lot harder to pass along bad information and nothing is paywalled.
Me and a friend hit the bong and played the 64 retro title Space Station Silicon Valley. We played the sewer level, and for a good twenty minutes we wandered around trying to find the next area to do something and progress the level, but just couldn't. It wasn't a secret but the slightly homogeneous level design made many places look alike and establishing a sense of progression was already a struggle. Imagine like eight long sewer hallways with characters that don't have great horizontal movement speed running around trying to find a little platform to fly up in. We bailed because it got late, but my friend played the level again after I went home and found it, which was a tad bullshit. I suppose I'm saying all this to ask, when IS it appropriate to lookup a walkthrough or guide when the merit of the challenge wouldn't be compromised and you'd only be trying to learn about some bullshit design choice that's blocking you, particularly when you as a first time player won't KNOW what's bullshit vs something obvious you missed (like in an Ace Attorney-like game)?
>>733777143He's probably gonna make more than you
>>733779112At least for half of the games I played, I had a gamefaqs open. I am also a mechanical engineer with a few patents and the best part of my work is designing new mechanisms solving problems and never ever looking up how other people did it. Reality is that those things actually aren't connected in the slightest.
>>733780272Do uncs really think this?
What the fuck is a 12 year old so busy with? Their careers?
>>733777143I stopped doing this very quickly because you soon realize that you’re just making the game boring
Walkthroughs are only valid for old point and clicks
>>733785127Gotta start that that Tiktok grind as soon as you can. Hit big and be a multimillionaire with merch and talk show appearances before you hit 15
>>733777143He's 12 and more mature than you ever will be. You are a child, grow up.
>Not having an actual physical guidebook on hand at all timesI miss written guides
>>733777143this is normal, casual gamers have always used cheats in singleplayer gamesin the 90s, people would buy game magazines because they'd give you cheat codes and information on how to deal with difficult parts of gamesin the 00s, people would use gamefaqsin the 10s, people used wikisin the 20s, people use youtubeyou're ignorant on this manner, unci understand why you'd look down on this behavior, but to act like it's exclusive to zoomers is delusionalthis has always happened
from soft induced derangement syndrome
>>733777143Don't pretend you never used any official strategy guides or gamefaqs when you were 12.
cheating in a single player game is a victimless crime
>>733785291It's amazing how incisive children are. You can never win an argument against them.Even their most brainless replies are capable of blowing you the fuck out.They do not care.This is why OP ran to 4chan to bitch about the young boy being mean to him
>>733785127probably texting his friends or shitposting on tiktok or instagrammy nephew made a comment on tiktok that got over 20,000 likes, he showed me the notifications and i couldn't believe itthere is a surplus of entertainment available nowadays, it's rare for somebody young to fully immerse themselves in a game for long sessions, the zoomers & alphas aren't bored enough to do this
>>733785318Games were designed in the 90s to sell guides, especially Japanese ones. Often the game devs had deals with the publishers
i miss being bored
>>733785348The whole gameplay of puzzles is figuring it out yourself. If you follow a guide youre not playing a game. Now there is something to be said about a single puzzle being stupid and you wanting to play rest of game but using guides over trying for hours yourself defeats the purpose of playing a puzzle.
>>733777143>got too much to do to waste time getting stuck on a video gamelike what?
>>733785584Kids are supposed to be bored.This constant over stimulation with screens is fucking their brains and attention spans.I worked in a school for a bit last year and not one class lacked a screen, even sport. The art teacher nearly had a nervous breakdown when her laptop went missing. The teachers can't even function without them anymore.
>>733777313>We unironically have better things to doI have witnessed your generation for many years.You unironically don't have anything better to do.
I kind of wonder how much of this is marketing psychology. And I am not even talking about companies that built their brand around our games are hard. Like imagine two alternatives: games are just toy you can play with as you want vs games are serious buisness and need to be challanging and everyone has to beat the challange fairly. Which makes people more loyal and more likely to spend money.
>>733785127Having sex with your gf
>Reliant on CyricZ for Yakuza guides for full completion for years>He refuses to do the latest one because bloo bloo virtue signalling metoo sexual harassment blacklist the actor bullshit, outing himself as a complete faggot>Turns out the 3 remake is so braindead you don't even need one.Devs have been slowly dumbing down their games for a while now, especially once they get a hint of mainstream popularity. Not like those games were ever complicated to begin with I guess but even the minigames got simpler.
>>733778301>timmy is too busy thinking about homework, social climbing, and rizzing up a baddie in his school to be thinking about goyim tierThen why are they universally so bad at it?
>>733777143>got too much to do to waste timeWhat the fuck do children have to do?
>>733783475>at least gen alpha will listen if you actually show them a solution No they dont.
>>733777143>victimblamingwhy is /v/ such corpobootlickers?
>>733777143I'm 30 and do the same. If I can't figure it out in a couple minutes I pop open the spot in the long play. I don't give a shit about solving some puzzle or re walking half the map to find something i missed to progress I just wanna keep moving. There's an endless amount of games I wanna get through so I don't wanna waste time on small bullshit
>>733786039This is true.Several kids I worked with last year asked me for advice about vidya, I told them exactly what to do and they just repeat the question as if I never said anything. I've never seen anything like it. They weren't even attempting to listen
>>733777143>he's "got too much to do to waste time getting stuck on a video game."This is true for everybody, not just alphoomers. In the 90s my family had slow-ass dial-up internet and the only games I could play were the few SNES cartridges my parents bought me. Nowadays you can download and emulate thousands of videogame roms effortlessly, watch thousands of TV shows, movies and anime 24/7 on-demand, and endlessly scroll through an infinite amount of content on Youtube, TikTok and Twitter.There's a million things vying for peoples' attention, fostering a mindset of wanting to finish things as fast as possible so they can go on and experience other things. Kids born in the smartphone era have never experienced boredom.
>>733786039yes they will>t. has multiple gen alpha cousins who are smart enough to manipulate their parents into allowances so they dont have to start workinggen alpha is having troubles with the gay shit like "sit in a box with fluorescent lights for 8 hours quietly and focus intensely" but they are quick on the uptake for finding ways to actually adapt to living with shitty parents and absent school systems and people who hate them before they've ever met them just for being youngeryou will grow old and wrinkled and alone, they will inherit the earth
>>733777143I used to do this 15 years ago
>>733785961>at least 5 different social media to maintain>need to post videos, need to go viral>must chase girls and lose your virginity before 13>go to the gym every day>daytrading and gambling to afford onlyfanssometimes also homework
>>733783704>Putting your password in in front of a middle schooler when it's a web portal that could be accessed from anywhereI did the same shit when I was in school but you had to be on the school network to access the grade book and I didn't dare use the computer lab to test it out
>>733786195This is another problem, especially when you get older and have more disposable income. We're more in tune with what we're missing out on that we just wanna blast through everything and not savour it. When we were kids we'd maybe get one or two games a year so we'd form an attachment to them and play them inside and out. This is true with movies and shit now too with zoomers watching shit at double the speed.
>>733785348For cheats and glitches, like finding MissingNo. Not literally using them to tell me basic shit like "go here, dumbass".
>>733786198i think some people replace the fake hows the weather convo with something else to be social. Ive seen older people pull the same shit and i mean 40-50 age not old enough for alzheimer but old enough to not bullshit.
>>733785450>You can never win an argument against them.If you beat them you can.
>>733783097A few years ago many schools just replaced the PC's with tablets. To be fair it was enormously expensive to keep those computers running with the constant updates and half the time the kids just screwed around on them anyway. Its like the sonic cycle, they used to teach programming but then they take it away then make a huge announcement they will teach programming again. I only got to learn it for 1 year.>>733777143For me it was just about the fun of the game, imagine doing a save state for Sega Rally, how pointless but kids are dumb. As a kid I used to think B&W movies were incredibly dumb but now I like them. To at least be fair a 12 YO would be incredibly bad even with old Disney games.
>>733777143That's based though. He's focusing on real life and using games to unwind, unlike you millennial faggots who treat games like an important thing.
>>733784485If a beating a videogame is in any way an achievement to you, you have already failed at life and have no right to criticize other people who are all better than you by default.
>>733786419Well sure, physically
>>733777143I was a stupid kid too, I had a player's guide for ocarina of Time.
>>733786376Nah these kids genuinely wanted help with Pokemon and so I explained type advantages and it was like I was speaking another language. Kinda how I played Pokemon at that age I guess.
>>733786259Your experience is meaningless. I work in the education sector and it's an openly discussed fact it's a struggle to get students to retain information. Be it from over screen usage or bad parenting, there is a major decline that is far from previous generational bickering. Pray to whatever deity you worship that its the kids in private schools that are disciplined enough to push humanity forward, because the bulk the current generation of kids is intellectual sludge.
>>733780272And then they all clapped
Wiki gamers existed before gen alpha. Zoomers are infested with them. Pathetic.
>>733777143time savers are ruining entertainment. This is their fault too, you know whose
>>733786632u got filtered and git gud
I spent 180 hours of BG3 with a walkthrough open on my 2nd monitor...I hate missing stuff...
>>733778301Literally the point of video games is to waste time. That's most pastimes.Trying to waste time "more efficiently" is a complete oxymoron and a sign of retardation.
>>733786916Most games now are wiki games to be fair
>>733785942That cuck banned me like 20 years ago after I called out his simping for girls on CE. How the fuck is he even still breathing?
>>733786845>Be it from over screen usage or bad parentingIt's both.I worked with a 2nd grade class last year and a non insignificant amount of them could barely even read.
>>733778994Why does such a good anime as Lain keeps attracting the most mentally disabled people?
>>733777143That mindset for anything is crazy. If it's not worth your time just don't do it to begin with and use the time for all the "important" shit.
>>733787126The red flag for me was the Kson simping in the last couple of games
>>733777143I played MGS1 when it came out with a strategy guide because the cutscenes were too long and boring. I played FF7 with one because it came free with a magazine. Those are the only games I used guides for.
>>733783475My guy. What? Literally the generation of the most common sense, DIY, figure out how things work and fix them is age 35-45 right now.You are... Just really really dumb.
>>733786845All the private school kids are going to get butchered like pigs within 10 years as Europe and USA descend into race wars.
>>733780818Right.I had some second-hand knowledge from people who had guides for other games but I had maybe 2 Nintendo Power issues and one full-length guide (Final Fantasy VI, which I got for my birthday after I'd already been playing the game for 2 months)
>>733777213>based zoomershow is that based to not know how or have the patience to solve a single puzzle by yourself?
>>733786845Private schools are often worse. What's really going to end up happening is that the small percentage of kids that exist in every generation who are highly self motivated are going to end up having to carry society on their backs. If they're lucky, this will manifest as them being the masters to a slave caste of barely functional retards. In this case they could also maybe drag humanity kicking and screaming back towards some sort of competence. But I fear the more likely outcome is that theirs will be a thankless task, they'll all burn out or even kill themselves, and society will just collapse entirely.
>>733787262Most private schools over here by run by Asians for Asians
>>733787074You're thinking of something different. Notice how I said "gamers" and not "games". A wiki game is some dumb shit like minecraft or my summer/winter car where important mechanics are not explained in-game and you need a wiki to learn it, or route trial and error.A wiki gamer is a pathetic shitstain who cannot, and will not, play a game unless there is some guide to handhold him the entire way through, doubly so if there exists a guide for a minmax or "optimal" playthrough.
>>733777143Puzzles suck.
>>733777213More like based Alphas, it's time for us zoomers to be replaced by the younger generation now
>cool story from "born in the wrong generation" zoomoid>200+ posts
>>733777143Ok that surely happened
>>733786732meant the "ask next day same questions" part. I know several people who act like that in the gen x/y age range asking same questions every time.
>>733777143Based nephew making his balding crusty ass uncle seethe
>>733781012You're retarded at statistics, friend. Probably in general.
>>733787646jej
>>733777143I have a friend like this. Whenever he gets ANYTHING shown to him in a video game that cannot be immediately solved, he instantly googles it because he's deathly afraid he might forget about it and not do it later. Other times I watch him pick up an item and then just forget 5 seconds after he picked it up. It's like an actual memory thing. They get FOMO from it but I think the base issue is no attention span. I will never let my kids engage in scrollslop or anything like that, it seems insanely bad for the brain
>>733781163I wanted to make games as a kid too, then I realized it wasn't economically feasible and got a real job
>>733787480>zoomers already think they're uncs and they haven't even all graduated from high schoolAt this rate betas (extremely unfortunate name) are going to think their lives are over when they get their first pubes.
>>733787497Mad it's not about politics and the culture war instead?
>>733781534I did tbqhI got stuck in OOT multiple times for weeks and when I got the nintendo power guide I went from the Fire Temple to the end of the game in one sick day. I only beat SM64 because I had a guide. The only game I beat without some sort of assistance was Donkey Kong Country somehow
>>733787450>t.
>>733787654https://www.wfmd.com/2026/02/17/grieving-parents-demand-changes-after-26-year-old-son-euthanized-under-controversial-law/>zoomer gets himself legally euthanized because he gets mopey during winter, but this definitely isn't happeningOne of us might be retarded but it's certainly not me.The suicides (and purposefully dangerous decisions) will continue until morale improves.
>>733788070>literally just the ijustine video from over a decade ago but now in zoomer vertical phone format and with some fat retard with a pink headset and the alphabet on the wall like he's a fucking kindergartenerEven your skilless retard videos are rote copypaste jobs of old shit but shitier.
>>733781340I believe him.I used it, but I had to go to the public library and escape out of the card catalog system to access a text-only web browser.I distinctly remember the first time I used it. I was stuck in Eye of the Beholder II: Legend of Darkmoon. This was the guide, picrel is the info I needed. I still remember seeing that little ASCII diagram in the orange-on-black vax terminal.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/564792-eye-of-the-beholder-ii-the-legend-of-darkmoon/faqs/2002
>>733782351>games are more pure gameplay nowadays???
>>733777143>My 12 year old cousin plays games with a Youtube walkthrough open on a second monitordon't even need a 2nd monitor now with Edge browser's new Game Assist<webmnot having to alt+tab out to wikis is nice, but video PiP quest walkthrough?
>>733777209>many many67?
>>733788427The last two seconds of this video are especially painful.
>>733782351Fewer shitty puzzles is a good thing but from what I can tell, games are as bloated up with cutscenes and walking simulation as they ever were.
>>733777143I dunno. As a professional Unc I remember owning plenty of Prima guides and buying magazines with cheat books. Zoomers are the exact same except they can type "Mr Beast Plays Poppy's Fortnite 100% Walkthrough All Secrets and Endings" into YouTube (Okay, maybe they ask Grok to do this for them because they can't navigate search engines but you get the idea)
>>733788501No.
>>733778004I started almost exclusively playing colony sims and online games because there was a ridiculous number of single player games with missable content and I got tired of constantly consulting guides with every mission to find out which dialogue choice was best.Mentioned this to my brother and he immediately started complaining about missing Panam's first romance tag in Cyberpunk so I think I'm not alone.
>>733777143Cute boy
>>733788697I still haven't listened to the 67 song and I'm scared to look it up
>>733786907Yeah, clapped their cheeks alright
>>733788427
>>733788758I didn't even know there was a song
Is it weird to have the first playthrough completely blind? I genuinely don't understand why missables are a big deal. Either you miss it and don't know any better, or you look it up and have the gratification of discovery ruined.
Instead of age rating games should come with IQ ratings. This way people who play dumb and stupid games would feel stigmatized and actually try harder games so people don't laugh at them
>>733777143based ascended technological hivemind enjoyera individualist peasant could never comprehend this level of interlinked efficiency
>>733788427Damn those hands look retarded, it is like your character is zombie walking. How can anyone who plays this shit take themselves seriously?
>>733784385>"Gen Alpha". Ironic naming since they couldn't be less alpha if they tried.Alpha build of software. They don't progress to usable beta, let alone final release.Alpha radiation, so weak it's stopped by a sheet of paper.
>>733777143It makes sense to skip all the tedious parts of the game and actually play only the good ones. If I want to hack people with a sword I'm not gonna sit through a puzzle.
>>733788957The usual crowd would screech about how that is discriminatory against actual retards
>>733788676>ridiculous number of single player games with missable content and I got tired of constantly consulting guides with every mission to find out which dialogue choice was best.Dialog choices are pure cancer and always have been.Though it's true part of the problem seems to be way too much emphasis on games as just some kind of "mechanism of content delivery." Like yeah, content is what makes a videogame but PLAYING it should be the fun part, not consooming the content. Picking dialog choices is not fun gameplay (nor is it roleplaying, for any faggots here who think that's what it's about). It's just the laziest, shittiest way to simulate reactivity in a world.
>>733788935iirc it's just some generic hiphop noise. Nothing special or memorable.
>>733789208ThisIf I'm playing a puzzle game I will enjoy solving puzzlesIf I'm playing an action game and the game forces a puzzle on me "to slow down the pacing and let the player digest the story after an intense moment" I'm hitting up gamefaqs
>>733789217age rating discriminates against kids by that logic.
Force every new gamer to beat portal 1+2 without guides.
>>733783025>aspies
>>733777143I do the same thing, if it takes me more than a few minutes to solve a stupid puzzle I look it up, if I wanted a hard game I would play chessGo fuck yourself, millenitard
>>733788957They actually have this in a way. I remember on a Zelda game my brother played once I saw that it was rated for needing the ability to read. If you play a googoo kindergarten game it will tell you that you need to at least have the intelligence required to actually comprehend what you are playing.
>>733788949It depends a lot on the specific game and the nature of the "missable."Maybe you miss out on a really cool weapon that you'd have had fun using, because you made a trivially wrong choice at some critical point. Now you're permanently locked out of getting it for that playthrough. Now, in a game where a "playthrough" might be 5-10 hours, and the game itself is really good? No big deal you just play the game again and this time make the right choice and get unlock the great weapon. When it's a 40 hour slog of cutscenes and assorted tedium to reach that point again? Yeah people are going to have a lot of incentive to look up a guide on the first time through.And then, after multiple games pull this shit, it becomes a habit. Because faggot asshole gamedevs have conditioned players to expect missable secrets, and actually looking for them yourself is boring as fuck because the game has so much walking simulation, people are going to look up guides.
>>733789528>it was rated for needing the ability to readI know many adults aged from 20s to 80s who are functionally illiterate, they struggle to put the letters together, but will insist that they can read because graduated elementary school and because after a good few minutes of trying to read a line of text out loud, they do manage to finally do it.
>netflix telling writers to write for people who aren't paying attention to the movie>vidya being made for people who aren't actually playing the vidyaso is entertainment just gonna die off? where else could this possibly go? in 30 years, will anything that requires you to pay attention be seen as a weird old people thing?
>>733789789>Maybe you miss out on a really cool weapon that you'd have had fun using, because you made a trivially wrong choice at some critical pointBut how would you know to want it if you don't know it exists? Doesn't this necessitate to be aware of the whole arsenal options from the get-go?
>>733777143As a teacher, this is normal, sadly. Smart phone addiction has robbed people of their critical faculties. You think the current generation is absent-minded? You've got people getting licenses right now who don't even know what to do when approaching a yield sign on the road. They need an AI to tell them what to do.
>>733789840The sad thing is that it is easy to pick up reading if you just put a bit of effort in. In a matter of a few days I went from rereading Charlotte's Web to reading Blood Meridian for instance. These people could make their lives so much easier but don't.
>>733777438>Fuckers can’t play Minecraft without some Youtuber telling them what to build.to be fair I'm kind of like this in valheim. I always build the same way unless I see some build video with some creative building techniques to take inspiration from.
>>733788957Geniocracy when?
>>733777143who cares? play your games how you want, if you dont wanna look things up, you don't have toonly sucks for multiplayer games because you're basically forced to look everything up to have any fun
>>733789948In the old days you'd know from friends who managed to get it and couldn't shut up about it. These days you can randomly see pictures of it online long before you decide to play the game.
>>733788501>67unc meme
>>733784078you shouldn't be doing that, because PCBs aren't just 1 thick wafer of fiberglassa lot of the important stuff is multi-layered.picrel is my 1.0 Xbox, this corner (despite having nothing in it) shorted ground to VCC and caught fire
>>733788949I do not understand this either. I do not mind missing some things because they are just secrets to find instead of some mandatory stuff to do. I usually explore and try to get everything(if it isn't locked behind some grind or other time wasting shit) but I won't be mad crying that I missed some stuff.
>>733777143Never had 2 monitors.This is the real reason why I don't do this. Maybe one day
>>733788949FOMO, some people experience it in investing, others for game completion. Its ridicilous either way because same time they dont have FOMO for live itself busying themself with playing games.
>>733780127Chuff monsters
>>733789978Brainlets can be genuinely exhausted by reading a simple cooking recipe. It's like intense workout for them.
>>733782419I work in IT and being exposed to general tech illiteracy in both age directionsI had an incident this morning where I learned that 2 women genuinely didnt know how to turn their computer off without holding the power button or pulling the power cable out of the outlet. Last week it was a guy who didnt know that you could rearrange windows because he never tried. How these people function is beyond my comprehension.I wish I was making this up
>>733785318Games are made to be played for the gameplay merit without cheats. Cheats enabled is like playing Creative mode in Minecraft or Free Skate in Tony Hawk, objectivless, challengless, because the mechanics are fun enough on their own to not need the construct of the challenge. I'm all for playing a game the way you want to play it, but to say "games were made to be cheated in" fundimentally cannot be. Maybe GTA cheats are the closest I can see to agree to that because kids would live spawning helicopters or fancy cars to go fuck shit up without concern, but that ties more into the "creative mode" argument
>>733785584I do not, and that's the problem.
>>733790962One of the most frustrating things is when you are very tech literate, you know you have a tech problem and it is on the companies side. You just need them to fix a problem on THEIR side.You call them up trying to fix the problem and you get a Pajeet reading a script saying "HAVE YOU TRIED TURNING IT ON AND OFF". Yes Mr Pajeet I know about that, it won't work. I am an expert in fixing tech problems I really just need you to fix shit on your end.
>>733790962windows UI changes filtered many elderly. They dont find shut down in new UI and then resort to button/cutting power.
>>733791465said jeet has no access to whatever it is you're trying to fix on their end, he's just a callcenter employee that's physically in Bangladesheveryone's given up
>>733791465Fucking hell, even reporting bugs to game developers is like that these days. A guy reverse engineers whole parts of the game, finds stuff like memory leaks and what exactly causes them, and he has to go through Karen the community manager or third party jeetsoft tech support and try to explain it to them like to a toddler with Down's before they're even willing to forward a detailed report.
>>733778854Except you had to buy that shit and if you went online for help you were at the mercy of shoddy text guides and 10 minute youtube videos. You couldn't just google a game and get a whole ass playthrough that solves everything in the game.
>>733777213Not really seething, plus I'll outlive all of them so I can rest easy I have yet again won by doing nothing
>>733791493Worse: theyre Mac users. The kind who insist that Mac is better for everything despite demonstrably not being the case for their line of work.I hate that they are in a different department that somehow managed to weasel their way into spending a magnitude more on hardware that they will not actually utilize the potential of.Im just thankful that we at least had input into it for standardization and management, the marketing department doesnt give a shit and will buy random things and demand we support them while giving them admin access (fuck off).
This board is fucking insufferable now. Yes, gamefaqs and strategy guides existed so that's comparable to ADHD kids not doing anything for themselves and just looking everything up immediately. We have multiple posters ITT openly admitting they are zoomers and nobody seems to care. I can't even tell anymore if threads like these are genuinely full of complete shitters that should be mocked or if it's just the epic modern 4chan joke of deliberately trying to be as contrarian to this board's old culture as much as possible to bait for replies.>erm (dogshit) is actually a good thing incel chud>>733781650Disingenuous faggotry trying to correlate people not needing to buy garbage like Relooted to tell it's liquid shit with people not even engaging in the media they pollute.I'm so fucking tired of this place anymore, stop shitposting for once in your miserable lives please.
>>733777143It's not just gen Alpha. I had older zoomers and younger millennial co-workers who said they did the same with most single player games they played.
>>733779923I actually did fuck up, your first sentence threw me off with the awkwardness of the "that just also" part but it isn't improper English.>You also just accidentally admitted that you're a zoomer.>I cheated my way through every RTS campaign I played and so did all of my friends who played them.You are a retard and your faggotry was not the norm at all. You being a drooling moron 30 years ago doesn't mean anyone else who wasn't a drooling moron at the same time is younger than you.
>>733792051>he fell for the baitlmao pwned
>>733791465Sadly theres no magic words to make a call center employee skip their script and escalate you to someone thats actually technical.
>AAAAAAAA GEN ALPHA IS PARTICIPATING IN ABSURDIST HUMOR THIS IS EXTREMELY NOTEWORTHY AND UNIQUELY BAD FUCK MY MUTTLLENNIAL CHUNGUS LIFEwhat causes this? peaking in high school?
>>733792237>bait is just pretending to be realistically obnoxious and stupid in a way that is completely impossible to differentiate from actual obnoxious stupidity
>>733777143I used to do this back in 2010 when I was around his age. What's the problem? Unless I enter a game specifically wanting a challenge, I would just search for an answer.
>>733789528I played pokemon red before I could read. As one would expect, I got stuck and couldn't finish it.
>>733792317>unless I want to enjoy a game I would just skip playing the gameLets plays should be more up your alley then
>>733788949No. But sometimes you can tell that you're not going to be replaying the game anytime soon. So not getting something on the first playthrough means probably never getting it. I mostly blame game length. You can enjoy a game and still not want to do another 60+ hour playthrough to find the shit you missed.
>>733792317the problem is you are making yourself retarded by refusing to solve simple challenges. Its like buying a challenger account. You got achiev but not the player skill.
>>733777143>wow look at my single anecdote this means an entire generation are identical clones to my 12 year old cousinyou might be a genius, OP. care to explain why my 13 year old cousin played half life 1 all the way through with no guides completely of his own volition simply because the game looked cool and was on sale on steam once? i thought everyone of his generation was retarded, no?
>>733792317>I used to do this back in 2010 when I was around his age.Fuck off
>>733792678>you are not allowed to be 28 years old on 4chando i have to be an obese ugly pedo 40 year old to qualify for the cool club like you?
>>733777143>he's "got too much to do to waste time getting stuck on a video game."Curiously, they don't elaborate and keep playing stuff
>>733792482Your cousin is the exception, not the rule. Be thankful he isn't as retarded as his peers.>wow look at my single anecdote this means an entire generation are identical clones to my 12 year old cousinThe irony.
>>733777143Those features in games weren't standard 15 years ago. He was born into a world that already had those features in games. They didn't make minimaps and quest markers to help him, he needs help because he is 12 and grew up gaming with these features being standard.
>>733791730>even reporting bugs to game developersDon't even get me started>played a neat demo on this steam fest>one of the settings is completely fucked up under certain circumstances>want to tell them about it because I genuinely liked the demo and want them to make it better>go to steam forums because it's a steam game>"everyone who want to report the bug please join our shitcord">*fucking niggers do you want this bug report or not*>join their fucking discord>please chose which notifications you want to see, please say hi in this special chat, please wait 10 minutes before you can post anything, please jump on on hand while sticking your left middle finger up your eyeball>*holy fucking shit* finally get to "bugs" section, double checked no one reported it yet, click button "report a new bug">sorry your account is not allowed to do that>basically flipping my table at this point>noticed there's a separate "report-a-bug" section which is not mentioned in their FAQ or anywhere>open it>it's just a fucking link to external website they could've just posted on steam forums>at this point I'm 99.5% sure I will never buy this game even though I liked the demo so much>fill their fucking form just because I made it all the way up here>at least I will know they noticed this bug and will fix i....>the only field for my contacts to leave them is a motherfucking discord nicknameI swear one day I will buy a ticket and fly straight to the office of one of these shiteating abortion victims or just to discord headquarters and darksouls their whole office I'm fucking at my limits. I just want to do your fucking job for free and give you a god damn bug report.
>>733789960>You've got people getting licenses right now who don't even know what to do when approaching a yield sign on the road.I can tell. Used to if you saw an absolute shit driver you could assume they had escaped a nursing home and usually be right. Now I see lobotomized drivers of every age.
>>733792746i dont think he is the exception. i think there are retards of every generation. its nothing new or special. as if us millennials didnt have them?
>>733792734>you are not allowed to be 28 years old on 4chanCorrect, now fuck off and don't talk about. I'm so sick and tired of this place being a glorified day care center for third worlder zoomers that mouth off when they should hate themselves and stay quiet.
>>733792808my guess is people drive less because they sit more at home and touch less grass. Less driving means worse drivers.
>>733792795In the future, just put the bug in the steam forum, or on twitter, or email it to the CEO.YOU report the bug on YOUR terms, King. If they bitch about it, they're just bitches.
>>733791730>>733792795I have completely stopped interacting with devs online because 80% of the time if you impartially offer constructive criticism or point out an objective flaw or oversight you get some combination of them making a sassy "why don't you make your own game then" clapback retory, getting swarmed by the dicksucking sycophants responsible for every single game on Steam having overwhelmingly positive reviews that think anything less than worshipping the ground the develop walked on is an act of war, or both.
>>733792734kek
>>733791749>10 minute youtube videosYou're right. It was even faster back then. Just some guy that had the same question answering it real quick for other people. Not someone who makes a living from their videos and needs to pad them out for more ad revenue.
>>733778265this is the correct answer
>>733792917dont you have some hecking pupperinos to pet while pwning n00bz while listening to the latest stomp clap hey song seeing as You Only Live Once, basedllennial filth? why dont you go to /qa/ if you are an abominable loser with literally zero prospects beyond whining on the internet all day?
>>733780127Alphites
>>733780127sigmas
>>733793208lmao lil zoom is mad
>>733777143Why are millenitroons so obsessed with playing a game "the right" way? (whatever that means)
>>733793208Should start up a unique burger restaurant with another metrosexual millennial and make good slop burgers. This is the only good contribution millennials made to the world.
>>733793492Why are you so obsessed with being an obnoxious baiting faggot?
>>733777295Fortnite is boomer game at this point.
>>733793208Lol
>>733792795I just do not bother reporting anything if they ask me to join their discord. I respect devs who make surveys after demo and ask questions about bugs or what could have been improved.
>>733777143We only struggled with puzzles and unclear objectives when we didn't have a choice. Entertainment options were limited and our parents weren't buying a new game every week. Everyone here would have TikTok brain if the app was in our pockets when we were growing up.
>>733793538>NOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY LAMULANA WITHOUT A HECCIN GUIDE YOU ZOOM ZOOM LIKE A DUMB CETTLElmao'ing at you shitllenials obsessed with sucking the dev's cock for wasting your private time
>>733792462I learned how to play grand strategy paradox games without a single tutorial, but if I am playing an arpg or the likes and can't figure out what to do next for a quest, I just google it. I really couldn't be bothered to figure out how and where to go for each individual elden ring quest, for example.
>>733789948>But how would you know to want it if you don't know it exists? Doesn't this necessitate to be aware of the whole arsenal options from the get-go?In addition to what the other anon said, the issue here is the repeated pattern of this kind of thing happening. You discover later on that you missed something, and can't do anything about it but seethe. So then the next time you play a similar game, you develop the instinct to check guides.Note that this particular problem largely goes away when the content isn't actually missable and merely hidden. When the game isn't completely railroaded and frequently confirms you can revisit old levels to search for secrets at your leisure, there's much less pressure to consult a guide as you go. The other half of this question, of course, is whether searching for the secrets is actually fun.A game that is mostly open, with very few permanent missables and mistakes to make, that is also fun to play and not full of cutscenes and other anti-replay features, can get away with a few of them and nobody is going to mind. But when your gameplay routine is dominated by railroaded, cutscene-heavy content with lots of dialog trees, people are going to be driven to guides.
>>733785097your generation literally has 50%+ male virginity rate. 2x ours at the same age
>>733793842Why are you so obsessed with being an obnoxious baiting faggot?
>>733794095Yes, due to the world you left us with. My generation cannot wait to burn it all down once you ignorant fucks in power die out and lose your influence
>>733792204My question was rhetorical. I already knew that you were a projecting shitskin. You niggers are all over this site constantly throwing this accusation at native speakers every time someone disagrees with you. Probably because struggling with English is always on your mind.>not the normFind me a man that did not spawn cobra cars or give himself resources in campaigns when he was 10 and I will find you a liar.
>>733794268>no argumentlmao
>>733793957Secrets are meant to be hard to find and not everything is intended to be experienced on a single playthrough. Games are meant to be a fun activity you enjoy engaging in, not a checklist you need to 100% and then move on like it's a job. If your impulse to learning you missed something is that you need to look shit up so you don't miss anything going further, you are retarded and completely missing the point of active organic discovery.I'm playing a game right now called Dungeons of Blood & Dream that has a lot of esoteric shit in it that you have to gradually work out and discover, I still don't know what a great many things are, and I doubt I will find everything by the time I'm finished with the game. That's fine, because looking shit up would rob me of the joy of discovering it myself, and I can always go back to it.
>>733777143i am 35 and i have youtube on a second monitor and i open up the harvest moon fandom wiki to check what floors of the lake mine i'm supposed to stop at for doodads
>>733794392I remember all the cool units you could spawn with cheats in AoE but I never used them to win campaigns for me because that is boring and gay. Not everyone is as determined to ruin their own fun as you.>hurr you're brownepic
>>733784485Beating a game with cheats and without are two different achievements.If people think it's the same then they're retards and their opinion is worthless.Video game skill is inconsequential to life, you're not really good at anything important if it's games.
>>733777546Congratulations on submissively becoming a nigger Surely previous generations just weren't smart enough to think of behaving like niggers.
>>733787817I'm sure you assume the oldest millennials associate with the youngest millennials too and that there's definitely no gap in generational experiences there.
>>733794502>Video game skill is inconsequential to life, you're not really good at anything important if it's games.I beat dark souls. You can't beat dark souls. Those games aren't really hard. But there should never be an easy mode.
>>733777143Punch him in the face. Just do it.
The real problem isn't tutorial reliance but the fact that games gave up having anything deep or secret. They make surface level garbage with nothing extra to the world. Especially problematic now that every game wants to be open world.
>>733777143I only do this for achievements I might miss in a first playthrough. I don't want to replay the whole game again when doesn't let me give an easy way to get back to the location the achievement is obtained.I'm not underage anymore, I have actual shit to do.Playing through a game with zero assistance however, is an incredibly satisfying experience especially if it is a puzzle game.
>>733795040It's either that or something like Sudaslop that you need to replay a hundred times to unlock the real ending. Nothing in between.
>>733782419Every single tech company has collectively invested trillions of dollars into ensuring every stage of development prioritizes above all else hiding as much information from the user as possible it is absolutely fucking infuriating.
>>733794440>I'm 35 and stupid with no impulse controlcool
>>733777598>>733783025I've just been calling them ipad kids. Completely forgoes the alpha name and calls them what they are: The generation raised by a fucking tablet.
>>733795573Zoomers fall under that too though
>>733777257He's not going to enf up dating chicks playing video games.
>>733795634I feel like as significantly smaller portion of zoomers qualifies for that than the entirety of gen alpha does currently and will ultimately. Much of gen z was raised during early internet and pre-social media too.
>>733794494Those of us who actually played them as children did have fun. If you'd been there you would know that. >hurr you're brownThat was you almost five hours ago. If you don't want it thrown back in your face, then don't go around drawing attention to the fact that you're a third worlder.
>>733788676>>733789246>replayability BAD>I NEED to get the most optimal most perfectest run on my first playthrough every time or my fomo insecurity will-ACK!Wiki gamer fagots.
>>733795787>Those of us who actually played them as children did have fun.Good thing I wasn't disagreeing with them being fun.>If you don't want it thrown back in your face, then don't go around drawing attention to the fact that you're a third worlder.I was calling attention to what looked like poorly structured English by calling you an ESL, not brown. You keep harping on it like you have a photo of me.
>>733777143Most "puzzles" in modern day gaming are so comically simple a literal child could eventually figure them out without any help. If I can't figure out a puzzle on my own, I feel genuinely ashamed if I ever have to look it up.Being able to play through Portal 1 without any help should be mandatory to any child before they can access any other game. Portal 2 for extra credit.
>>733777143>boomers itt having a melty over a kid having fun his own wayironic saying it to you, but grow up
>>733795634If you have childhood nostalgia for the 6th and/or 7th generation consoles, you don't qualify for the ipad kid title. This is why generations being as wide as they are is absurd. It's like how cultural phenomena should be split into every 5 years rather than based on every decade like we currently treat it. Too much shit is always changing now for a catch-all generational term to accurately represent everyone in said generation.
>>733778301>i feel like you autists forget that vidya is made for children and for having fun, if cheating gives you fun then you should cheat. vidya is something you play for an hour or two to relax then focus on real life and your real life ambitions and goalsWhen I read a book nigga I ain't got time for all dem words if it too long I just skip ebery fird page nigga I ain't got time fo dat I got too many books to read
im in my 30s and my memory is shot. i just wanna beat the game already.. but i mostly play old jrpgs so yea i use walkthroughs idgaf
>>733794745The oldest zoomers are just now turning 30 and they're acting like that makes them old men. We're rapidly approaching the attitude that's said to exist in Japan where your life is over after high school.
>>733777143Comfy not-caring-about-time living is white and nip coded. Thinking all of your time not spent in a way to make money, i.e. "hustle culture", is nigger, jew and brown codedGuess which one most gen a and zoomers are
>>733796010>If you have childhood nostalgia for the 6th and/or 7th generation consoles, you don't qualify for the ipad kid title.Yes you absolutely fucking do, I'm not even reading past that. If you weren't at least in your 20's when we were spamming GIANT ENEMY CRAB everywhere you need to be permabanned.
>>733777143Is normal than they abuse ChatGPT.
>>733796079>im in my 30s and my memory is shot.If you're only in your 30s and your memory is already shot, then you got what you deserve for whatever the hell you did to your brain in all the preceding years.Avoid drugs and alcohol, kids.
>>733795779Gen Z got to grow up during peak internet although many still had parents who were wary of it and may have not let them access it. As a zoomer I had unfiltered internet access from like 7 or so and saw many based things. I essentially harnessed the internet to start accumulating an obscene amount of knowledge. I have cousins though that while having phones pretty young, didn't really start touching games and seriously getting into technology until 2016-18 or so. I think Alphoomers are the first generation to be raised on total slop.
>>733796201Then you're just a retard, godspeed little guy.
>>733796079What the fuck did you do to yourself to be this scatterbrained in your 30's?
>>733777143tell him he and his friends are genuine retarded.
>>733796220>Gen Z got to grow up during peak internet although many still had parents who were wary of it and may have not let them access it. As a zoomer I had unfiltered internet access from like 7This is the human shit we have freely posting on 4chan now.
>>733796131Japan was always in the future. They advanced past every other country during the economic miracle. The upside is that Japan seems to be dealing with some problems and coming out okay, so there is still hope.
>>733794315>you left usDo you seriously think the generation directly prior to you is the one in power, genuinely? Lmao
>>733796335And yet every word he said was more valuable and thoughtful than anything you responded with. Suppose it really is time for you stupid old faggots to pack it up if all you can do is derail with insults instead of having a conversation.
>>733793696I used to treat surveys as if they were the plague, but now I happily fill them in if a game seems promisingDid so for CV2, Nioh 3 and the elliot game already
>>733796357They just deported a bunch of arabs for crying about how Japan doesn't make muslim immigration easy for them and how they weren't able to convert any japs to islam. They're indeed doing pretty alright.
>>733796335>Unc that only got redpilled in his 30s
>>733794315>Thinking millennials are in powerLittle nigga we are in the same motherfucking sinking boat.
>>733777143>12 year old>got too much to do
>>733796426"I'm a retard who grew up during the downfall of the internet but because I am young and stupid I thought it was le peak" is very valuable and insightful, true.
>>733796335Zoomers unironically think early 2010s youtube and instagram were peak internet kek. Most of them have never heard of a forum.
i mean its better to look up a guide than meandering through a confusing level for an houri had to look up a guide because E33 has no fucking minimap or map in areas. its trash, also the levels are all identical and all the art is lazy flips from the asset store so you get lost pretty easily when everything is soulless copy pasted slop
>>733777209thisI remind myself occasionally what my audience would be if I made a game so I don't bother.I have a friend that is a meta slave, but we are at the stage were a majority of people play games like a cookbook.
i dunno what is up with kids these daysmy nephew has like a ten second attention span and he isn't an ipad kid
>>733795572and yet sadly you are somehow worse off than me
>Expedition 33 derangement syndrome out of nowherelmao
>>733796715>i mean its better to look up a guide than meandering through a confusing level for an hourand then he follows it up by admitting he played that shilled trash E33this is why modern 4chan is a shithole
>>733796521A millennial (James Delano Vance) is set to be the next President of the United States.
>>733795958>I was calling attentionNo, you saw a post disagreeing with the fiction you created in your head about an era you didn't experience. As this is functionally equivalent to being called a liar, you got mad and lashed out. And the first thing that came to mind was to accuse me of being an implicitly brown, third world ESL for reasons I already addressed. Now you've moved on to "pretend not to understand". If your memory was worse, I'd think you were a bot with how formulaic your dishonest faggotry has been.
>>733796796Lmao
>>733778301A little strong with the bait language there but I agree with your take. I am in fact an oldfag and I am not remotely impressed by game skill. IT's a video game, a medium of entertainment, I'm about as impressed by how good someone is at a game as how good they are at jerking off or eating cake.There has been a semantic shift over the years as well of "hardcore" which used to mean anybody who buys fully featured boxed games and engages with the medium as a hobby, but now means online competitive or skill mastery-focused, and "casual", which used to mean non-gamers who played only mobile gacha, sports, and multiplyer party games, but now refers to anybody outside of that first category.
>>733777143is this cheating? I use to love players guides because they came with so much art and cool little secrets I would have never considered to think of. I don't think they make them any more. I rarely read them unless I was hard stuck for like a week in a game. I didn't use online guides and FAQs until like 2020 because in SMT:IV I was hard stuck with no fucking idea what to do for over half a decade. Like from release of the game I made it to I think it was the desert law land you get teleported to and was consistently walking past whatever POI you were supposed to go through or not flagging something to get into the dungeon there and finally caved in and looked up what to do. I would talk shit about friends who beat games over the weekend saying they cheated by looking up a guide. I still do
>>733796947>No, you saw a post disagreeing with the fiction you created in your head about an era you didn't experience. Except that I did and you repeatedly claiming otherwise doesn't change that, the same way that you being a retard and using cheats to beat games isn't reflective of how most people used them for fun.>you got mad and lashed out. And the first thing that came to mind was to accuse me of being an implicitly brown, third world ESL for reasons I already addressed.No, what I thought was poor English was a separate issue I also capitalized on to insult you for because you were being retarded and trying to claim everyone used cheat codes to win games back then.>Now you've moved on to "pretend not to understand".Wrong.
>>733796926No one is voting for the couch fucker, man.
>>733796772Parents nowadays are very shit and essentially don't parent their kids. Parenting to them is being picky over what they get as gifts or restricting their screentime or something. They are also awkward and view their kids almost like animals, I can only imagine how retarded a modern parent acts when it comes time to bathe their child. They also all got sold on corporate slavery so both parents work all day and the children are basically abandoned and given to the village. The public school system is filled with murderous trannies who do nothing but shame the kids for being white and straight. Modern childhood is suffering at the hands of misanthropes.
>>733797137>is this cheating? I use to love players guides because they came with so much art and cool little secrets I would have never considered to think of.yea anon that's exactly the same thing as what OP is describing
>>733794315>Millennials>power>influenceThe mind of the zoomie is truly a ruined place.
>>733797009>taking bait seriouslyThere's a gulf between being a hardcore badass pussy slaying g@m3r and literally looking everything up before you even try to do shit yourself, and acting like the only reason you are doing something challenging on your own is to show off your leet skills is ridiculous.>"casual", which used to mean non-gamers who played only mobile gacha, sports, and multiplyer party gamescomically inaccurate
>>733794419>Secrets are meant to be hard to find and not everything is intended to be experienced on a single playthrough.Pablum.I'm talking about specific dynamics and issues that happen in certain games designed certain ways and you're over-generalizing about the very idea of secrets and how they always should be. This is exactly the kind of lazy thinking and logic that leads to the bad designs I'm talking about.>Games are meant to be a fun activity you enjoy engaging in, not a checklist you need to 100% and then move on like it's a job.I completely agree. It's not my fault that games are badly designed, that's what I'm talking about. The difference is that I'm blaming developers for game designs that encourage and TRAIN players to treat the games like a checklist of content to consume. You're blaming the players only for having the wrong mindset and not >I'm playing a game right now called Dungeons of Blood & Dream Well no shit. Roguelikes have procedurally generated content and the entire design philosophy around those games involves permadeath and replaying newly-generated dungeons every single time. That's the polar opposite of hand-crafted content I've been describing. They're also a very niche subgenre of games.
>>733777143Humanity is uniroically doomed
>>733796926why would anyone vote for that retarded couch fucker when everyone knows he is just Thiels pawn?
>>733794315Good luck, same for Gen Alphas
I use guides for help but I give it more like a half hour. If something isn't clicking for me after a half hour I deem it bad design and is ergo not my fault. For example I had to look up 4 things for Silent Hill 2, meanwhile I didn't have to look up a single thing for Silent Hill 1. Therefore, on my totally unbiased rating system, Silent Hill 2 is worse.
>>733797413What specific dynamics and issues are you talking about? I get if something is overly esoteric to the point that basically nobody gets it, hell I just played a game called Verho that has one in it you have to read a specific plaque and then go to a specific zone with a specific weapon equipped for a 1% chance of an NPC to spawn that gives you a secret weapon with absolutely nothing to indicate to the player that it is chance based and not just you doing something wrong but it sounds like you are making generalizations about always looking shit up.Dungeons of Blood & Dream is what I used as a specific example because beyond just the normal randomness of roguelikes there are a ton of constants you can take advantage of from the very start of the game that you simply are not aware of, a lot of the game is not about unlocking stuff but discovering how to do something you could always do. The entire magic system is based around using runes in a specific sequence, and you have all the runes available at the very start, for example.
>>733797621What got you on SH2? Hard riddle can be a bitch but Normal is pretty ez.
>>733777143I do the same but I only look it up if I am stuck for longer than 20 minutes with no progress. Honestly, it is better than google it sometimes because some random anon will spoil stuff way ahead.
>/v/ is arguing in favor of filthy casualsthe absolute state of this rotten corpse of aiste
>>733797262In a way, it reminds me of the reversed version of old people's way of thinking about kids. To them, a 4 years old and 14 years old are practically the same thing. And zoomies think of older people in a similar way, 35 or 55, same shit.
>>733777143>If he doesn't know where to go next for more than 5 seconds? Looks it up. Can't solve a puzzle in 20 seconds? Looks it up.I do this and i'm 28.
>>733797198>>733797493Obsessed troon who will have a meltdown when Jimmy Dean Vance wins against stunning and brown candidate number 3.
>>733793119Well when your "constructive criticism" is "stop enabling shaders I don't like" and "this youtuber said this engine feature is bad don't use it"
>>733797168The most frustrating part of dealing with you niggers is that you're too retarded to realize how obvious your lies are. It somehow never crosses your mind what it would be like if someone came up to you and started confidently asserting that some extremely common thing you experienced never happened. And it's never for anything that's obscure secret knowledge. Go watch some T90 videos and you'll occassionally hear him mention when he was a retarded kid that didn't know how to play the game properly and relied on resource cheats. And see his entire chat saying they did the same.What's the reason? It has to be some sort of ideological thing. Nothing else would make sense. What sociopolitical position do you think is undermined by acknowledging that kids cheat in vidya?
>>733794315lol your generation really is retardedwell, its your own fault for frying your brains with social media and fortnite.
>both situation the shovel is no further than 30 meters from you>gamers still need a guide to find itkek we are cooked I remember seeing a statistic that 80% of people look up the solution online if they get stuck. It must be true. Personally, I don’t consider that I’ve beaten a game if I look up help online even once.
>>733796926lol nobody is going to vote for thiel except for astroturfing victims
>>733777143I was born in 1990 and I always played games with a prima strategy guide of game faqs walk through open.Or a game genie plugged in.
>>733798175Also had a subscription to tips and tricks magazine for its guides and big list of cheat codes in the back.
>>733798143The fuck kind of baseless projection is this?
>>733798152>go watch some youtuberStop talking and stop using this site immediately.
>>733796593See this here is why no one wants to take you seriously at all, we can clearly see that you're just a faggot having a tantrum and that the only reason to engage with your putrid dogshit personality is to shame you for it
>>733798168>2:09>first 20 seconds is the channel's CG intro>next 40-60 seconds is describing the problem and telling the audience it totally happens to everyone>15-20 seconds of navigating to the shovel and picking it up is shown>CG outro, rate like, subscribe and smash that bell button
>>733797850If I remember correctly:1. The first Pyramid Head boss fight because I kept dying/running out of ammo2. I missed the teddy bear in the hospital but had been in that room, and even inspected the area with the bear but had conveniently missed the bear.3. The maze under the prison fuck that maze4. The fisherman's suitcase in the hotel. I used the key on it but it didn't open so I spent an hour trying to figure out what the key was for only to figure out my controller was broken after looking up and finding the key should have worked
>>733798430What? Afraid of a little incontrovertible video evidence? Does that scare the lying nigger?
>>733777212Hahahaha. Skill issue, (you) let your brain rot, that’s just the dementia kicking in.
>>733798518>1. The first Pyramid Head boss fight because I kept dying/running out of ammoHow in the world? He retreats after a few minutes and you should be farting ammo by the end unless you were on Hard.>2. I missed the teddy bear in the hospital but had been in that room, and even inspected the area with the bear but had conveniently missed the bear.That's fair, sometimes the interaction windows are tight.>3. The maze under the prison fuck that mazeThe Labyrinth sucks dick but you do get a map at least.>4. The fisherman's suitcase in the hotel. I used the key on it but it didn't open so I spent an hour trying to figure out what the key was for only to figure out my controller was broken after looking up and finding the key should have workedlol
>>733777143future CEO behaviorhe has no time to waste on your stupid "game design" or "plot progression" he just wants the dop' hit
>>733777143Whats up with people saying theyre busy, have too much to do, cant waste time on x only for their entire day to be a whole lot of nothing? Theyre not freeing up time to invent things, they just sit around doing nothing
>>733798774But the dopamine hits more when you actually work towards something You actually get much less dopamine when everything is too easy
>>733798890Excuses, the reality is that they are impatient.
>>733798949SHUT THE FUCK UP AND REPLY TO ME THREE MORE TIMES SO I CAN GET MORE DOPAMINE NOWthis is unironically how they function
>>733798949>does 7 easy things at onceThe future is now, old man.
>>733796367No, but (You) >>733796521>>733797262>>733798161 faggots are the ones that freely sucked on the Boomer/Gen X lies in the 2000s and that is what got us here. Now I gotta listen to kiked out millenial women calling me an incel for each of my opinions, whilst influencing women of my age, and freezing their spoiled eggs. Reminder, it is your generation that consumed and improved upon the "American Pie" way of life, and the whole discourse online is trying to shut your stupid assumptions about the matter of being an incelibate man or not, when the (((centralised banking system))) is stealing all the wealth and funneling it into forever wars.
>>733799172Women have been a lost cause for longer than any of us have been alive.
>>733799172Millenilinials are best described as raped slaves
>>733799172>I gotta listen to kiked out millenial women calling me an incelYou're asshurt over getting bullied by women? LMAO pussy
>>733799172>Now I gotta listen to kiked out millenial women calling me an incelWomen have been like that since at least the 70s buddy.
>>733799172Social media using retard brainraped by modern politics. Go play a videogame.
>>733799172>american piethis nigga thinks we're all normalfag dudebros who banged a bunch of chicks in college kek
>>733799337Trans
>>733799412Sir that's a mirror.
>>733799447Kek
>>733799554>>733799447LE EPIC SAMEFAG XD
>>733799584Good morning sirs
>>733777143The younger generations have become idiots because of the dumbphones. They use that shit all the time, looking things up, all the time. They do NOT try and think for themselves or try and solve problems on their own. They HAVE to look up everything, and the more they do, the dumber they get due to their brain never getting any exercise. There I said it.
>>733796618lol every single boomer speaks ill of the boomer days. the early 2010s were pretty good if you were a 12 year old
>>733799782forum days*
>>733799447>>733799554>2 minutes apart
>>733777438>Fuckers can’t play Minecraft without some Youtuber telling them what to build.Let's be honest, like 98% of the farms are not something you would just stumble upon how to do and are ridiculously complicated Redstone contraptions.
>>733777143So just like uncs did, only they used gamefaqs.
>>733799782>>733799973Are the forum-hating boomers in the room with us right now?
>>733777143>this is LITERALLY zoomer humor now
>>733800214NTA but this kind of boomers and gen X wouldn't be posting or even lurking here because it's a "toxic cesspool" and they'd rather stick to the nicer parts of the internet. A lot of them don't even interact with anyone anymore, they're just glued to the video feed.
>>733792462>if you don't do the shitty puzzle your brain will die Have you considered that you might not be an expert on anything?
>>733799782>early 2010s were pretty goodIn comparison to what came after, absolutely. But that downward trend started before then. I'm not even sure when since it's been going my whole life too. Were the 80s better than the 90s? I don't know. But the 90s were definitely better than the 00s and so on. I will say that the early 10s were before things fully fell off a cliff. The kids growing up now have every right to hate the world.
>>733782081The oldest zoomers are 30 years old now bro
>>733797785>What specific dynamics and issues are you talking about?1. Substantially one-way/railroaded design. For example, once you complete a level, you can't go back to it.2. Lots of cutscenes, or otherwise time-consuming presentation of story that's not compelling on a repeat playthrough.3. Requirement to engage in tedious/unfun mechanics to discover the secret, in what might otherwise be a decent game.Although guide-seeking isn't limited to this, a combination of these 3 traits is likely to encourage a player to look up a guide. Lots of RPGs fit the bill here.
Honestly, if I could apply a similar solution to waste less time on this god forsaken cesspool of a website I would. Anything bad on the situation OP presented (which didn't happen btw) is immediately based by the simple fact that OP has his nephew (which again, doesn't exist because he is lying and nothing of this happened) living rent free in his head
>>733800825>1. Substantially one-way/railroaded design. For example, once you complete a level, you can't go back to it.Fair>2. Lots of cutscenes, or otherwise time-consuming presentation of story that's not compelling on a repeat playthrough.Well, yes, but I don't get what that has to do with looking up and spoiling secrets for yourself.>3. Requirement to engage in tedious/unfun mechanics to discover the secret, in what might otherwise be a decent game.Fair.However I don't think what OP is describing matches any of this, he's describing people with zero patience that will look up overpowered builds and exactly how to get the secret Dookie Splatter 9000 shitcannon that oneshots everything before the game is even booted up, or the types that will encounter a puzzle or riddle and immediately check the solution to cheat a win.
>>733800825>1. Substantially one-way/railroaded design. For example, once you complete a level, you can't go back to it.I wish more games would do the mission replay thing. It's so rare, yet in linear games without branching outcomes there's no reason not to do it.
>>733777143What the fuck is a 12-year-old doing that his time is so important?
>>733777143no he doesnt
>>733777143If I don't solve a puzzle in, let's say 2 minutes I look it up as well. I don't need to waste my free time like this.
>>733777143Yeah that happened
GenX here.There were pros and cons to the 90s.The US really started going to shit in 2012, though the underlying problems leading to that point are much older, many trace back before even the boomers.
>>733777143I played link to the past with a guide when i was 13. It still took ages, and i still had an amazing time, and it's still my fave game of all time.
>>733800825Extra points if the secret behind this sort of shit is consequential. Missing out on a heart piece in a zelda game doesn't feel as bad as missing out on a party member, so it's less likely to result in guide fagging.
>>733795040>bother with making secrets>some faggot cock gargling "dataminer" datamines and publishes it to youtube (monetized) and twitter (monetized) day oneYou have people dumping full playthroughs, all cinematics compilations, ending videos, secret compilations on the day of release even if it's a game that can last for hundreds of hours.
>>733801068>Well, yes, but I don't get what [cutscenes have] to do with looking up and spoiling secrets for yourself.Because they discourage playing the game more than once.A classic example is Barret's ultimate weapon from Final Fantasy VII (PSX). You can only get his ultimate gun if you have him in the party during a specific event very late in the game. If he's not in the party at that moment, the item won't appear at all and you'll never get it. This wouldn't be a problem, if it was the kind of game you played over and over, and might choose different party members for that event during each playthrough. But FF7 has like 15+ hours of cutscenes and the total average playtime is like 40-60 hours. Most people assume they aren't going to be playing the game again, at least not anytime soon. So if they miss an item, they're basically missing it forever.
>>733801817Sometimes this stuff is out even before release if the publisher offers a preload or the game has a demo that keeps it all in the files.
>>733801817We need seeded level and secret variations. This kills the guidefag. You'd have youtubers getting flamed by people telling them that the building they showed was in a totally different location and didn't have the sword of goblin tears in it.
>>733788949I never used to think so, but apparently it isI always do first runs blind. If something goes wrong, I live, learn, and try again.
>>733798351>saying negative things about stance X means you actually hold it yourselfHow brainrotted are zoomers actually?
>>733796745I dunno, plenty of kids seem okay.Growing up I remember I was in the minority of people who liked the shit I liked.
>>733801563Yes, excellent point.>>733801068>However I don't think what OP is describing matches any of this,My argument is that, in part, people like OP exist because there has been such a pattern of this kind of development in videogames for a long time.>or the types that will encounter a puzzle or riddle and immediately check the solution to cheat a win.This one already has an answer that many people ITT have pointed out which is that some people just don't like puzzles and don't much like when puzzles are conspicuously inserted into a game they originally picked up to play for some other reason.
>>733777143Is he gonna look up a youtube video on how to get a gf (female)?
>>733802191>My argument is that, in part, people like OP exist because there has been such a pattern of this kind of development in videogames for a long time.I can see how you can come to that conclusion but I don't think that is the case, people haven't been conditioned to be this way, especially younger people, they are this way by default.
>>733783958The part I always hate most is to put in the main power supply for the mainboard. It always requires so much force before it finally clicks in, and I am never not worried about breaking my mainboard in the process, when I see how it bends a little under the pressure.
>>733800407It's Gen Alpha humor. Most zoomers are in their 20s.
>>733792917Epic wannabe jannie cleaning up 4chan and enraging under 30-year-olds with one simple trick! The trick is crying.
>>733800407Zoomers have bachelor degrees already. Find a new Boogeyman
>>733803203What is zoomer humor anyway? Skibidi ohio?
>>733802026Would honestly be funny and cool if done subtly.
>>733799392No. This place is (for the most part) devoid of normalfaggotry. Doesn't make it different when each form of media today is influenced by that shit, and thus, it influences the gullible idiots on the internet. Which, in turn, start acting like idiots in the real world. >>733799337>Social media using retard brainraped by modern politicsYes, you've identified the problem, but what do we do about all of those normies?
>>733799330No. Women started to become more and more unhinged the further feminism evolved. What went on in the 70s is pale as to what goes on today.
>>733777143k? Maybe gamedevs shouldn't be putting the fucking objective in bumfuck nowhere with 0 hints then.
>>733804404It is still funny that their civil war with trannies is one of the main things destroying leftism nowadays. Funny because trannies are in multiple ways direct consequences of feminism. Gender ideology, emotions over facts, society that treats you like shit as a male, encouragement of insane radicalism, etc.
>>733804576Tumblrina women were literally at the forefront of the tranny movement and the whole cancel culture thing that followed. They wholly voted for it kek
