There will never be a video game like ninja gaiden 2
Thank god. We've got enough badly designed games on the market already. Funny how he never made anything good after NGB, even with his own studio. Mr.Sunglasses indoor was hard carried and it shows.
>>733782920Unfinished, unbalanced and yet worshipped?
What's the general consensus on Ninja Gaiden II Black now that we know Team Ninja isn't going to try to fix it anymore?
>>733782920two masters is coming out on march 4 for ng4.>3 chapters>two weapons, one per characters>new enemies and challenge missions/mode
>>733783924it's good
>>733783924It's close enough to the 360 version for people who want that. Most likely it's better designed than that one.
>>733783924Way fucking better than Sigma, though I don't like the Unreal look, it does look better than 4.It performs worse than it should too (on a 7900xt) and I have less input delay on my SeS when playing OG II.
>>733785927It is fucking not lmfao. That 2 black is for sigma babies this shit is retarded levels of easy. Not even remotely close to the ridiculous overwhelming amount of combat vanilla 2 gives you.
>>7337861792 expects you to spam invincible instant kills like Guillotine Throw until you can charge a UT to wipe out a bunch of enemies no problem and go right into another. Anything else is an improvement.
Remember to cry about every upcoming rollslop game because that somehow magically takes away from every future action game which could be Ninja Gaiden or an NG-like!!!!
>>733786358>no problemShow your Master Ninja clear. Also explain what even is wrong with that in the first place.
>>733782920Good. the game was shit.
DLC TRAILER (15 sec. tv spot) DROPPEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XIVT6SvC18
>>7337863582 expects you to get good little boy.
2 was fine but 3 was GOAT.
>>733786450>Also explain what even is wrong with that in the first place.The massive quantity of other moves that are rendered completely useless because they aren't invincible.
>>733783636No other game provides a comparabale depth of combat.
>>733783924good when you mod it to og difficulty
The only reason to play sigma or NG2B is to jack off to Rachel, Ayane and Momiji.
>>733783636Its a 6/10 game that is better and more fun that any 10/10 I never said it was perfect but the things it did it did so well
>>733783924Sigma remake don't buy or play Either play sigma 2 with black mod(get the latest version) if you can play og2
>>733786518Bro wtf i just installed ng4 today
>>733786609Different enemy types and encounter compositions make it so that you actually HAVE to use a multitude of moves. Because as good as certain moves are, some situations call for a different ones.-->Y with the Talons will not do you that much good in Chapter 8.
>>733782920The fact that Ninja Gaiden 2 is so jank, yet is so fun to play says a lot about how good it's core elements are. On the other hand, there are many other action games that are polished, yet still get stale very quickly.
Ng4 feels very off because enemy can instantly slide to you and attack but in ng trilogy i can easily count every hit i receive and ryu controls feel more responsive than that of 4 where i find myself spamming a lot
>>733787140I would not call it jankSure the camera can be a bit awkward but i don't remember a single game with character controls so precise as ng 1 and 2
>>733787046>you see this move that turns 95% of the enemies into a joke doesn't work on a few that are considered dogshit by everyone anyway, so what you do against these two enemies is spam UTs
Sigma babies will never stop crying.
>>733783636these aspects didn't stop halo 2 or kotor 2 from being worshipped either. perfection is an illusion so I'll take imperfection where it's warranted.
>>733787464It's jank, because a good portion of the game is just terribly designed, like bosses in general, medusa mines, everything about chapter 9, tests of valor, encounters where ranged enemies shoot you from far away and often respawn several times, lazily thrown together mission mode, later chapters with copypasted corridors etc.
>can easily run bloodborne and many demanding ps4 games on a toster>Xenia still sucks cock and ng2 still has that annoying audio cut issue Man...
>>733782920Or Dead or Alive 3
>>733782920Aren't there two of them? The good one for the NES, and the gay 3D one?
>>733787046That's another massively overtuned move. It's at least a weapon-specific option. You can still UT your way through that chapter like anything else.
>>733787924It's a flawed masterpiece
>>733787140You call this jank but some people will argue that this is better than NG4 where the enemies snap into place for the OT.
>>733787476>>733788007Only people that don't play the game pretend as if it is that simple.
>>733786518okay i'm optimisticit feels more like a ryu campaign than yakumo's cyberpunk main game
>>733789054On landing UT is stupidly fast and kills way too many guys. It was actually improved from NG1 where it was usually a single hit. NG2 specifically has a tutorial about killing someone with a UT and then using their essence to do another UT.
>>733783924Better than original.
>>733791504Post proof you ever even played the OG.
>>7337839242 Black is so shit that even the mods don't fix it. If you want to play NG2 either go with modded sigma or the original, both are flawed in their own ways.
https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaidenmastercollection/mods/386how close is this to the original game? im playing it right now having never played either sigma game and it's kind of ass compared to NGB so far (im on chapter 6)
Tekken sucks
>>733794496As somebody who played them back to back recently here are some of the biggest differences between them, part 1.>Camera is much better in sigma. In the original it just follows Ryu around without caring about what the player sees, the FoV is small and each time you do UT or OT it zooms in hard, practically blinding you, because you can't see what's happening around. In sigma FoV is way bigger, the camera zooms out and pans around to try and keep enemies in sight, giving you a good view of the fights, additionally you can enable free camera during UTs and OTs so that you can analyze what's happening around while Ryu carves somebody.>Sigma is generally way easier, this doesn’t mean it’s easy by itself, the mod throws more enemies at you at once than the original and they will still kill you if you try and fuck around. However, enemies have significantly less health in sigma, meaning stuff that normally doesn’t kill them would obliterate them, the most prominent example is staff’s regular UT, the final flame swipe doesn’t kill shit in the original, but in sigma it oneshots most of the enemies, it practically functions like wind blades ninpo. Considering that you fight more enemies at once, it’s super easy to just chain this UT and clear entire hordes with ease, staff in sigma is general is extremely overpowered, also thanks to it’s XY string, which launches.>Continuing the following point, one of the most dangerous enemies in the game – IS ninjas are greatly nerfed in sigma. They throw less shurikens at you, though considering their increased number you would still be peppered with them, their shurikens don’t interrupt your UT charges and when they stick to you, they don’t interrupt your combos, if I remember correctly. Ogres or mecha van gelfs, whatever they are called, were also nerfed heavily, they are much easier to delimb now. Golden van gelfs and red gaja tail whips no longer slap you for half of your health bar etc.
>>733795960Part 2>Speaking of combos, it feels like Ryu has much more invulnerability and priority over enemy attacks in sigma, stuff that works well in sigma doesn’t fly in the original.>The bosses are much weaker in sigma. They attack slower, deal less damage and their mechanics have been simplified. For example, that metal fish from chapter 3 takes very little damage if you hit it in any place other than the face in the original, but in sigma you can just blast it wherever and it would take massive damage still, also it shoots you way less. I think the only bosses that didn’t change much are both fights with Rasetsus and Volf.>Some encounters are wildly different in sigma, but not in a bad way, some tedious parts with ranged enemies shooting you from a far were altered to feature more melee enemies, you fight doppelgangers a couple of times in the campaign, there are much less flying fiends etc.
>>7337839242 Black is just Sigma with a different name trying to scam people into thinking it's actually based on the original NG2
>>733796421Part 3:>Graphics and various environment effects are fucked in sigma, lightning is worse, special effects are either missing or are half assed, for example, windmill shuriken has no trails, advertisement screens in chapter 3 not only look worse, but many of them aren’t animated, there are no projectile trails, rain looks super bad, ghost fish in water dragon room was replaced by wisps etc. There are too many examples to list them all.>There are no manual saves in sigma, but you can freely replay any completed chapter with every weapon and ninpo unlocked, something that is missing in the original.>In sigma weapon and ninpo progression is faster and you unlock everything faster, by the time you are done with werewolf castle you have every single weapon available and two ninpos at level 3.I think these are all major differences aside from the well-known ones, like several playable characters, different mission modes, statue bosses, some enemies and bosses being cut, puzzles and key items removed etc. Overall, sigma 2 black is simpler, but it also has far less bullshit, allowing you to enjoy the good parts of NG2 more, vanilla is more nuanced, but at time you have to waddle through various annoyances to get to the good parts.
>>733789215Its just 3 chapters and you still get to play as yakoomer again Sad that this might the last thing we ever see for 3d ninja gaiden
>>733796421>Some encounters are wildly different in sigmaThis is what you get instead of double armadillo fight.
>>733794496Its great But you need to disable the mod during that one chapter where you get enma fang in sigma and pick it up
