No more zesty screenshots, we cool books now
The only highlight from 2 hours of TZ
>>733791263How do heralds work?
>might aura form merc>meditation aura from insight runeword on merc>fanaticism aura from bound hephastopretty good desu. next up I need to make pride which will replace the meditation with conviction
>>733791263worth it
>>733790120>>733790247Based retard.
They got plans for more classes? Pretty cool for a classic legendary game to get more content I wish more devs did that.
>>733792024Very real possibility. It worked wonders for AoE2 and both IPs are owned by the same parent company now.
>>733792024RogueIron WolfSpiritbornMonkWitch DoctorDemon Hunter
>>733792139>RogueThat's just amazon>Iron WolfThat's just paladin>SpiritbornThat's just retarded zoomer leftist shit>MonkCould be good>Witch DoctorThat's just warlock (could have been good before that)>Demon HunterThat's just warlock
I like D2 but ooga booga big lipped witch doctor is my favorite class
>>733792410They gave him such unique spells
>>733792410D3 is gay af because it was made by faggots but the witch doctor was a great addition
>>733792704>summon KFC burger>steal gold from people in town>10 to extreme aggression
>still nothing from andarielffs
>>733792336>>Monk>Could be goodAgreed.>>Demon Hunter>That's just warlockNo, it isn't.
>>733791263I got 2 IK stone crushers from 2 normal enemiesgot fuckall from all heralds i found>>733791358You need to reach the herald of terror, then spawn him 4 more times to see the highest/best rewardsWhen you kill non-normal enemies you have a chance to get the message "you draw the ire of a herald" you have to find a pack of magic/rare enemies and hope they convert to herald
am i gimping myself by not having a leveled sorc on my account, 40hrs in the game so far
>>733793305sorc is the best for farming due to her teleport
>>733793191How did you do it? if the TZ isn't something like tal rasha or worldstone I never get to spawn even the first fucker, been tzing nonstop since yesterday
>>733794092Dont make a new game, wait the 30 mins for zone to rotate. Or you can spend a worldstone shard to terrorize and act. Best bet is to do both, spam TZ games till you draw ire or spawn a T1 herald, then spend a shard and fullclear an act.
>>733792073Major difference is the AoE2 crowd is autistic as fuck and absolutely would scream and cry if they made changes on par with what some of the retards want for D2R.Modern ARPG faggots are the absolute worst, with half of them wanting "le epic full screen kill skills" and the other half wanting "super hardcore no fun allowed arpg's are a thinking mans game." Neither side understand that ARPG's are just one or two steps away from korean mobile gacha shit, just with actual fucking gameplay and a lack of predatory pricing packs.Just give me my easy mode farming with the occasional difficulty spike punishing me for zonining out too hard until I get the full BiS build and can AFK farm, that's what an ARPG is supposed to be, just hard enough to keep your attention but not so hard as to give everyone carpal tunnel trying to keep the APM up.
>>733792336blood templar;disgraced holy warrior who has committed sin with his past actions, now tainted by the greed of demonic fervor, he sacrifices his own vitality as pennance for empowering his skills with fire and blood.focus 2h or 1h+shield melee, fire spells, blood spells.doesn't use mana, generates blood tributes from kills.martial skill tree: active physical attack skills, passive boosts which lower max hp or halt life regen to increase other stats, survival skills granting demonic pacts for temporary buffs from killing.fire skill tree: devastating attacks ranging from small blasts of fire, to enormous cataclysmic pillars of demonic destruction. most spells cost life to cast, but, through pacts, can siphon life from enemies.blood skill tree: gather the blood of enemies to cast powerful demonic blood spells, perform summoning rituals, or awaken a bloodfrenzy that sends the blood templar into a kill or be killed rage. also, passive skills to boost max hp and life regen to counteract the demonic toll and pay for skills.i dunno man, this shit is coming off the top of my head. i could write more.
>>733791263I've done four full game TZ clears and only gotten three sunder charms from themI'm okay with the heralds being difficult (although melee gets even more fucked than usual, classic d2) but they either need to spawn more frequently or have a higher drop rate on the charms when you consider you only have a 1/6 chance of getting the right type
>>733794625>doesn't use manaNope, instant trash. All classes use Mana or bust.
>>733794625sounds good desu
Warlock was good, so the next class they add has to be bad, like Barb or Druid.
all those rejuv pots cant be good for digestionsorc is about to fart BRAAAAAAAP uhoh stinky
>>733794924>raltirtalsol on desert merc>suddenly mana pots get evicted from your belt and you forget mana even existsthey should make energy worth putting points into next
I love the idea of Druid's Raven skill; can you build around that or are they merely a side-skill to compliment other builds?
>>733794924welp. i offered something different on a whim.the good thing about ideas is: nothing is set in stone.just make them use mana, and instead of blood tributes as a resource, make it a buff instead.seems convoluted to have two resources, but you can't let go of mana...
>>733790917>blocking with a book>blocking with a severed headI'm starting to wonder if there were in fact some things Diablo 3 got right
>>733794524>I get the full BiS build and can AFK farm, that's what an ARPG is supposed to be,why? why does an arpg have to have the pursuit of afk farming as its main draw?>because that's what diablo 2, the peak of the genre, is!prove why diablo 2 is a good example without citing your addiction to is as evidence
If they ever add another class I hope it focuses on bows/xbows. I hate that these games always have a variety of melee and casters, but there is only ever a single class that is actually designed to be an archer (and not an off-meta build like sorc/pala/lock). Good opportunity to introduce quivers with affixes and get rid of limited ammo on all range weapons (this is the one outdated concept I wouldn't miss, they already gave throw barb pretty much unlimited ammo anyway, might as well get rid of that shit entirely)
>>733795145I don't think they scale enough to be hell-viable. Decently strong early on but unusable later.
>>733795568I felt the same way, then I thought about original D2 classes and I realised that every class has its own weapon that is only useful for that class, even though they are not restricted from othersNecromancer - WandSorceress - StaffPaladin - ScepterAmazon - Bows and CrossbowsBarbarian has the exception with dual wielding being cast specificSo actually bows being a kind of caster weapon for amazon makes sense since the bow is there to cast arrow skills.
>>733795145They're your spammable attack spell on summon druid.You can't really use them outside of summon druid because all their damage comes from the summon spell synergies.
>>733790917>91 strength required>to hold a fucking bookdumb
>>733795967it's a heavy book
>>733795967big book
>>733795967the strength isn't for wielding it*winces mysteriously*it's for keeping it... closed...
>>733791721>warlock is a better aurabot than paladinwhat did blizzshit mean by this
>>733796101How is it better? You'll never get the max conviction or fanaticism aura from demons.
>>733795967
>>733796205a warlock can now bring 4+ auras to any team as a massive force multiplier while having the best universal damage availablethat guy is missing a double aura on hephasto+other goof ass things like exilei guess it depends on if you want a 20+ point fanaticism or a cumulative pile of everything else. i don't see why you wouldn't just go with the everything-pile at that point
Does defense matter for merc armor?
>>733796205Oh, and you also apply Amplify Damage Curse, just because.
>>733795967it's a big guy book
>>733794906Or actually add some content that makes it worthwhile to farm the charms to begin with.
>>733796352What auras does it bring that a hammerdin, zealot and infinity merc doesn't already bring to a mp game?
>>733796695most people will never even see an infinity for starters
who is the act II merc praying to for the prayer aura?
>>733796856Allah
I killed izual :) But I’m getting bored of my javalins
>>733796856G-d
>>733791721pride gives concentration, not conviction
>>733796856Chris chan
i wish there was a player 0 setting so I could fucking beat the fucking game
>>733792024>Someone who has different mercs for skills that can be equipped with items>Ritualist, a class focused on conjuring sentry ghosts >Hitman, a poison and throwing weapons centered classWould be cool
>>733796956well spotted, I am retarded. echoing strike is physical and already got physical immunes broken by amplify damage. it's concentration yes.
>>733796695not an aura but it's relatively easy to get a fanatacism hephasto that also has cursed for amp damage on-hit if you want more reasons this shit is silly
>>733792024Whatever happens, I hope they take some inspiration from the Median XL bosses/challenges.
>>733796352>double aura on hephastohaven't seen him with two >things like exilewasn't that paladin only?
>no class.focused on throwable explosive potions
>>733797387heh, looking forward to the next challenge runcan you beat diablo 2 all the way to hell on hardcore with only thrown potions?
>>733797380>wasn't that paladin only?was thinking of infinity runeword, my b
>>733795140mentioned this in a previous thread but>base mana regen doubled (fully regen your bar in 1 minute instead of 2 minutes)>insight cut in half>energy provides 0.1% additional mana regen per pointand the primary issue with mana gets solved, insight is still there for mana hungry builds but it's no longer mandatory on every character
>>733797380I think I've seen him with fanaticism and blessed aim
>>733797673blessed aim would be useless for a warlock no?
>>733797673You sure it wasn't just another nearby pack with second aura?
>Found another Bane piece and two Eth Runestoday was a good day.
>>733797812I found like 5 of those daggers already and no other pieces, starting to hate that item.
>>733797772It was on me and my minions, so there would have been no other source except him. It disappeared after I lost him. Happened only ones, but it was consistent in and out of town while he was bound.
>>733797812Bane?
>>733797812>>7337979033 here, no others from that set. same with OPs book.
>>733798075the masked warlock man
>>733797663insight isn't mandatory on any characterit's a ladder runeword and i made non ladder singleplayer characters and played them without insightfuck insight
Someone asked about the poll and it was never posted last thread so here it is. Honestly hoping there are no changes except buffing the really bad stuff and MAYBE finally finishing Act IV if they manage to make it fit.
>>733792847>Never skips breakfast
>>733798227Fuck that, I'm all for new stuff if they dont fuck it up. We always got LoD to fall back on
>>733798210>insight isn't mandatory on any characterherp derp you can beat the entire game on any class with zero gear just like that epic youtuber challenge video nothing is mandatory you can play however you want!!!!
>>733798227>more skills for each class
>>733798151If you take off his skull will he die?
>>733798369jes
this is in hell without and with the demon that gives fire resI want to drop all the fire res charms and shit and let the demon take care of that, I'll spread the free space between the rest. is that a good idea or retarded?
>>733798227Charms inventory, or the usual for mods double inventory with charm space would be good. If not double then at least change from 10x4 to 8x8, with the bottom half for charms, it's the same size as full inventory of charms minus tomes + cube.
>>733798476it would be extremely painful to bind
when you think about it, act IV (the finale of diablo 2 vanilla) is mogged so fucking hard by the hell levels in diablo 1 (the finale of diablo 1) that I can't believe anybody ever gave a fucking shit about d2 enough to get addicted to it. I guess battle.net was just that good.
>>733798626the expansion was much longer so people probably forgot about the fuck up quickly
>>733798545warlock is one of the few classes that can comfortably live at 20-40 all res lategamebind demon is ridiculous, having half of all damage you take be siphoned off to your tank (who is invincible) makes you invincible, plus you have more than 2k hp even without call to armsmelee warlock will need to max res but if you're playing magic or echoing strike then you should be fine
>>733798476No he’d be just fine just more exposed ^^
>>733798227how about this option - DO NOT FUCKING TOUCH THE GAME ANYMORE
>>733798780nta but I got a gorebelly with stoneskin and that motherfucker just tanked duriel at nightmare without even getting one bar of HP from him, it's insane.
>>733798726>blizzard expansions before LoDfull-length campaigns that are as long as the vanilla campaigns>blizzard expansions after LoDlol have 25% of the game at full priceIt was the beginning of the end
>>733798942How about >[x] Expansion
>>733795967Written inside it is every people who fucked your mom. Thats why 91 strength to carry it around
>>733798780>having half of all damage you take be siphoned off to your tank (who is invincible) makes you invincibleexplain
changing things from the way that I am used to them is a personal attack and an invasion of my life, I will retaliate and you will be sorry
>>733799219LOL
>>733798227>Three new quests to finish act 4As long as it doesn't make the act longer to kill Diablo, I say go for it.>New Environments or zones added to the gameSure whynot.>Charm bags that let you store charms inside a dedicated inventory containeridgaf>New appearance options for Town Portal visualsNo thanks. This will just be MTX'd to hell and back. The one you get from creating all Runewords is okay because of the prestige.>New skills added to every class to expand build optionsYes please. Add a new row for level 36 skills.>More customization for Loot Filters and better highlighting for rare drops100%. I want potions to not be white text.
>>733799240demons are like the clay golem for necromancers, even non-summoner builds will take them and they scale incredibly hard into lategame with +skills and eventually dump excess skill points into themthis is my on my fire warlock, i can teleport into cursed extra strong packs of cows and eat 6-8 hits and come out fine, no other class is that tanky
>>733799441holy shit
>>733799441>61% damage reductionclass designed by a toddler, jesus christ
>>733799640Mr llama :)
>>733799441>better TP than sorc>better summon than necro>better curse than necro>better damage than most>>733799640mom told me it was my turn to play diablo
>>733799441so how does it work when you have 2 demons and a re bound one?
>>733799441They should just cap the damage transfer at like 30-35%
>>733799771Warlock TP is shit.
>>733799801no they should raise it to 99% so it's more fun, we are living in fun times and balance can go fuck itself
>>733799789it redirects to your bound demon, I don't think the damage redirection ever goes to your goatman/defiler/taintedbut it does make them all tankierI don't know why blizzard never took the opportunity to clean up the syntax for descriptions, it's incredibly inconsistent and stupidlike how magic is its own specific element, except when it's not (magic damage reduced by x applies to all elemental damage)
>>733799867>can tp across the entire screen(you)
>>733799936At 1/4th the speed of Sorc Teleport.
warlock should be able to walk into blizzard hq and steal breast milk from the fridge
>>733799984and sorc needs to do 4 tps to cover that same space
>>733799871based
I like Warlock as he is, if he gets nerfed I'll stop playing. You hear that Blizzard intern reading this thread?
>>733800083>blatantly lyingOkay.
>>733799219lmao
How can you justify weredruids and WW barbs when this nigga existsIts like everything you'd beg for as a melee classCleave? Phys/magic mix? Built-in mobility? One point dip 400+ damage shields with a stun on top? Still get decrepify and corpse explosion for a 3 point dip? On demand crushing blow? An unkillable perma weaken/conviction pet for one measly point?You can, no exaggeration, cut every value in half + remove HALF of his toolkit and this nigga would still be on top
>>733800920Zarfen beat the game with randomized skills by just using the right gear and beat the game with no gear by just using holy boltlol just get good and stop being a wagecuck lol fucking wagies falling asleep after their wagecage and not being able to play diablo 2 for 17 hours a day
why is this dumbass nigga talmbout beating the game
pcfags i need one of (you) to take a screenshot of your enemy HP bar in controller mode
>>733800920WW needs to have 30-40% aoe damage for every enemy in its radius (closest enemy still takes full damage)Most people still think WW is AoE when it's not, it's just a garbage skill with no synergies and clunky enough to get you killed if you're frozen or decrep'd and take 10 years to travel 2 feet, all while you can't use potions
>>733801301like this?
>>733800920dunno about weredruids but whirlwind barb is canon while warlock is obviously not canon
amazon fucked larzuk, barbarian fucked charsi, the rest are virgins and incels
>>733801486i don't know if 12h+ of nonstop TZ fucked with my eyes but isn't my bar thicker?
>>733801784thick meaty bar hehehe
>>733799771>>better TP than sorcnah. sorc can go through walls. demon hunter needs line of sight.>>better summon than necroway better.>>better curse than necrosort of true. amp is still king for physical, but warlock has a slow with more damage, and can use demons for amp anyways.>>better damage than mostabsolutely.also not only the best survivability because of >>733799441but you can teleport your demons through walls then blood boil them to explode and kill everything in the next room before you even go in. Warlock isnt just "overtuned" it is overloaded as fuck desu.
I just hope for and need Diablo 2 to get real sexual in the near future
>2% chance to get herald ire>1% to turn enemies into herald>only T4 and T5 can drop sunder offline
>>733802714while the 2% chance to get ire seems right, it's definitely more than 1% chance for an enemy to become heraldI think it's about a 10-20% chance for any elite pack to be changed, in doing multiple full clears I've never held an ire proc for more than two zones, it usually pops nearly immediately
quest option to betray the rogues in act 2 and have sex with blood raven?
>>733802850>act 2
>>733802850>>733802998kek
>>733802998>>733803016meant quest 2 lol
>>733802550sorry chud, we at blizzard replaced all your women with bowls of fruit to bring our setting into modern compliance
>>733803231and then we also made all of our straight white men get a divorce on their wedding day (somehow)
>>733787317>The only 'good' thing about running Druid is that trading/buying for gear is the cheapest since no one in their right mind or time plays it.That doesn't even work because almost nobody puts that shit up for trade. Most don't even pick it up.
I am so sad hurricane doesn't work in higher difficulties. It's my favorite skill and looks and sounds awesome.
Dropped off Mister Lister in nightmare.>EtherealI wasn't going to make a Paladin but if I was I'd be pretty disappointed right now.
what would a hypothetical complete act IV even look like, you just branch off in city of the damned to some more d1/d3 inspired hellscapes?
i genuinely cannot settle on a class i want to play, everything starts out so slow and Act 5 Normal is such a massive fucking slog too
>>733804351what are you talking about? hurricane is druids best spell build.
>>733804351It works better than sorceress for me. Put up hurricane, summon bear to defend with your merc, then spam tornadoes.
>>733804881mined deals no damage and there are immunes everywhere
>>733804704>everything starts out so slowthat's the only soulful part of the game though
>>733805215>there are immunes everywheremost things are not immune to physical. your tornados are physical. Do you play the game? You need points in tornados to synergize with hurricane, hurricane is basically a passive you activate that follows you around, like a fire and forget spell, so you use it for supplemental damage then blast things with tornado while your bear pet tanks.
>>733805551tornadoes can't be aimed tho, they go everywhere
>>733804425>Mister Listerdon't call her that
>>733797136>Ritualist, a class focused on conjuring sentry ghostsassasin traps and sorc hydras again>Hitmancould just be added to assassin
>>733805784dang bro, if only you had a several ton hamster to block enemies for you while you had a spell of swirling ice to slow them down, you could get in close so that tornados spread would more reliably hit your target. Oh well just play warlock, you should probably do a guided playthrough too desu.
currently running a foh paladin in hardcoreis pit my best option for mfing?i can do andy/countess fairly easily but navigating there takes a while since i dont have enigmai can do chaos as well but it feels pretty slow and my merc keeps getting fuckedi havent played in a while so i dont really know how best to utilize terror zones or if ill just get instafucked if i step foot in one
>>733806215you can't slow things with swirling ice that are fucking immune to cold you absolute moronwhy would ANYONE play something that's bad instead of playing something that's GOOD? Do you understand that you are BAD at the game if you make BAD decisions which make you play WORSE?! The correct OPTION is to play the GOOD CLASS not the BAD CLASS with BAD ABILITIES!!
>>733806349>metatard (never been above level 70 btw) tries to understand fun in a video game >has never played without a guide>refers to MrLlamaSC as 'sir' MANY such cases
>>733806349>oh no there might be immunities to one of my elements in my dual element build, life can be so hardYou sounds like a bitch all the time.
>>733804704The wheel has spoken.
>>733806568>refers to MrLlamaSC as 'sir'moderate kek
>>733806271>navigating there takes a whileget a tele staff/naj's
>>733806674>dual element>an ice swirly that deals no damage and a physical swirly that never hitsmore like zero element build, with no rizz
>>733798942Then set the game to expansion you turbo homosexual
>>733806684well, i never played a trapsinany way to deal with lightning immunities other than death sentry's corpse explosion?
what am I doing wrong? I am hard stopped at act 1 hell. how am I supposed to do hell with 160 damage?
>>733806271if you cant do hell chaos then try nightmare worldstone keep (pop baal at the end too if you can kill him fast). you get decent loot from it, it can drop up to ber rune.
>>733807031you take wake of fire in addition to lightning trapand if something is immune to both fire and lightning, then you just walk past
>>733807123top kek
>>733807031fire blast but that's like a lvl 80+ skill sink for synergies
>>733807123gear?
>act three
>>733806793swapping to staff is annoying though and i lose my resists/blocks from my shield. i still feel kinda vulnerable
>>733807249>act 3 as auradin
>>733807123get an open wounds weapon on your amplisa
new shitter here, is there any reason to invest in frenzy's increased stamina synergy on barb? the stacks all refresh with 1 hit and the wiki says stacks are capped at 5, so it just does nothing unless you're taking longer than 6 whole seconds to jump from enemy to enemy right?
>>733807123looks like most of your points are in summoner skills, so its more about how much damage your pets are doing. for hell mode your build starts to matter a lot more so if you have more than half your points in 1 treee the other wont perform as well, especially if its something like wind druid that has 4 skills synergizing with each other.
>>733807278>swapping to staff is annoying thoughset a convenient swap keybind and just tap+click+tap back to jump walls, it's not that badcountess runs go really fast even with just using 3-4 tele charges to hop walls when you learn the layout, using shield charge down hallways etcit's vulnerable but>playing hc d2there's already a million things out of your control that can fuck you in an instant anyway
Can't play anything but barbarian right now and haven't beat normal yet. I really did not do myself a favour, but the nostalgia and whirlwind...
>>733807379correct, it's pretty meaningless unless you're level 90+ and just want it for the sake of convenienceblizzard should roll increased speed+stamina into one skill and give barb another mastery to compensate, maybe something that gives phys reduction or global attack rating
>>733807543barbarian is the only soulful gear experience class though, play only with vendor and cube items to really experience the soul of the game
First decent thing I get off NM Meph and it's a Lightning Sorc Skill GC. Are Lightning Sorcs a thing?
>>733807209:(>>733807243islestrike jalal's manespirit (not pictured)spirit shroudvenom gripnightsmokealdur's advance+2 summoning ammuletrandom yellow rings with resists
>>733807520fair enoughyou think countess is the best choice then?i do like that pit is basically guaranteed to find quickly but i havent really found shit
>>733807776wait are you serious?
>>733807764Lightning Sorcs are one of the best endgame farmers, but you need top tier gear for them to reach god status. Hold on to the lightning skiller and once you get infinity + griffon's eye diadem you can nuke maps with either Lightning or Nova.
>>733807764lightning sorc is really fun but it takes a lot more investment due to not having an inherent resistance cheat like cold does
>>733807843yes?
>>733807840Countess isn't particularly good for MFing, and personally I find that she doesn't give many runes you care about in Hell - you're more likely to find good runes by killing the ghosts in the tower than you are from the countess's guaranteed rune drop (almost always low tier runes like Tal or Ith). But if you plan on ever doing Ubers then yeah, go do countess to farm up your keys. Ubers on HC can be rough though, good luck with that.
>>733792139I would love monk. Probably my favorite class from 3. At least neck and neck with the crusader.
>>733808057how do you get crusaders without Christianity???
>>733807379you can attack faster and do higher damage if you switch to double swing when you have max frenzy charges so ideally you would want to re-apply it as little as possible. i wouldnt put 20 in max stamina regardless but maybe 10 depending on what sort of build you are doing.
>>733808039>Ubers on HC can be rough thoughpaladins can do ubers in barebones gear with like 700 hp/lvl 60~ without any issueyou just bully them into a corner with shield bash+crushing blow spam and they can't do anything about it
>>733808213you're still prone to getting oneshot by mephisto until you get GG gear, and the maps themselves are dangerous if you get bad layoutsonce you kill meph it's smooth sailing to finish off baal and diablo though
>>733808039you are suppose to farm countess on players 1 so she drops more runes.
>>733808150crosses have been in the setting since the first game
>>733807776Unfortunately for you, you picked one of the four "dud" classes. They can work, but require about 1000% more gear investment to barely do what the good classes can do with minimal gear.
>>733808414you either do p1 for more (low tier) runes, or p8 for more keyspersonally I don't care about countess farming beyond the Normal farm to get stealth and maybe a few times in nightmare if I need extra spirits or insight runes, I find it boring and she drops nothing beyond low runes and keysif you're that desperate to get mid/high runes, go do LK runs or farm maps with lots of ghost enemies like chaos sanc
>>733807123>summon druidthe only thing that garbage was ever 'good' for was sitting by the gate in duel games to kill nakeds from the safe zone, even with d2r rebalance
>>733807843no he is memeing. he has more +skills than his talent page showed as possible.
>>733807249>leaps over the riversluv me act 3, simple as'
>>733808580>find countess boring>says to do LK runswew
>>733809010i didn't say LK runs were fun eitherI just said that if you want to target farm high runes, then do LK and pray you get some bers so you can get out of LK as soon as possible
>playing multiplayer>chat notification about chronicle>somebody else got the item and identified it>it still registers in my chronicleabsolutely dumb
>>733808925looks like +5 to all druid skills and +2 to summon skillsbtw druidfag you realise +skills don't add the synergy bonuses, right?
need advice asap, what's a cheap runeword for the might merc of a summon necro?
>>733809161>druidfag you realise +skills don't add the synergy bonuses, right?what?
>>733809245fuck might, put a cheapo Edge bow on a act 1 rogue
>>733808925the fuck? all true
>>733809325if you get +7 from items, those +7 dont count toward the synergy bonus. so your hurricane is dealing a lvl 12 damage with 1 synergy bonus from your other skills, not 5. the same is true for your summons
>>733809325only hard points spent on skills count towards synergies. no + skill from items or things
Am I supposed to just run past everything in act 2 and 3 as a javazon? Everything is fucking lightning immune.
>>733809245https://d2runewizard.com/articles/lists/runewords/aura-runewords
>>733809245obedience is pretty strong for pure dpsbut you get a lot of use out of unique polearms, tomb reaver shreds, kelpie snare completely locks down enemies in conjunction with decrepify+clay golem, pierre tombale is a great NM unique axe for damage
>>733809473>>733809521ok I didn't know that, fuck me
>>733792024BardThiefWitchPiratePriestPlague doctorPeasant
>>733809571obedience doesn't grant an aura tho, I want something that would boost all skellies, sorry for not specifying that
>>733809464>has the +2 skill from spirit despite not being equippeduh oh
>>733809742um... >>733807776>+2 summoning amulet
>>733809742Fuck off mathlet, you're more pathetic than he is and he's running a summon druid ffs.
>>733809693you don't get good auras for cheap, they all require high runes they did add Mania (Shael Ko Eld), but it only provides a level 1 fanaticism aura which is very weak and has a small radius, and gives much less damage for the merc itself compared to obedience
>>733809464well you said you had spirit too. idk why its not on. thats +6 to all skills and +2 to summon with ammy. your elementals are at 6 and hurricane at 12. you should take out all of the points of hurricane and put them in heart of wolverine or ravens, unless you really want it for slow in which case leave 1 point in it i guess.
can you 4socket a kite shield?
>>733809943it's +7 to all with spirit equipped, go back to fucking school
>>733809978no. only the elite monarch variant gets 4
>>733810038gay
>>733810075yes, spirit is gay. like insight it shouldn't be in the game
>>733809473>the same is true for your summonsACKSHUALLY it does work for druid summons. that is the secret druid superpower.
This is bullshit
>you have to play my sensei's new self insert class or you're not playing the game right
>>733810120do like 5 runs of normal mephisto. call blizzard tech support if the plate doesnt drop, your game is defective
>>733810010spirit +2islestrike +2jalals +2wheres the extra one come from?
>>733810297spirit shroud
>>733810113what's even more gay is how assmad and sphincter ruptured you are over their existence.
>>733810120I just got 3 in a row. One doing baal NM and two right after the other in the same cow level.
>>733809456Its honestly insane how good A1 Frost merc is now, love them now
>>733809693looking at it from the wrong angle, think of it more like turning your might merc into an assblaster with an aura as an added bonushaving all the random chaff skellies makes merc survival skyrocket so they can actually do their damage
>>733810383oh yeah you're so fucking straight and whorefucking with your zesty ass kite and brownpedo prayer merc, salaamwalaekum
>>733810332oh right. well that guy that bought all his gear off d2jsp is going to be feeling satisfactorily autistic over that little trivial info that doesnt have anything to do with the advice i gave him on how to not be shit at the game.
>>733810113>spirit sword and shield>enigma>insight merc
>>733810297nigger why the fuck are you being this autistic about where his +skills are coming fromclearly he has all these +skills unless you think he's photoshopping a screenshot to post to a Zimbabwean gold harvesting forum, you're too retarded to realize that he's already said both spirit (shield) and spirit (shroud)
>>733810495you need to take the L faggot you can't even count to seven and called him fake you really think we're gonna let you treat druidbro like this on our board?
>>733796056underrated
>>733810120I haven't played muchI only have the armor lol
>>733810574<3
Just remove insight from being made on spears and put it on swords and scepters there I instantly fixed the game
>>733810574This, you're fucking DONE on /v/. I recognize your posting style. I'll be calling you out in EVERY thread from now on. Not just D2 threads, EVERY thread. I know your posting style. You can't hide from me.You made a huge fucking mistake bullying that druid.
>>733810727insight doesnt even work on spears
>>733810727>dual wielding act 5 barbarian with double insight
>>733810727you say this like act 5 mercs are badthose handsome motherfuckers tear through shit like its paper with minimal investment
>>733810772A spear is just a polearm that won't commit>>733810829>the son of Bul-Kathos has achieved trve enlightenment
>>733809161>>733809473Is this a recent change? I've been playing D2 for decades and never knew this.
>>733810574>>733810539i mean i genuinely didnt think anyone would be so retarded to post >>733807123 in good faith.>how am i suppose to do hell with 160 damage12 points in hurricane and doing hell? hello? Looks like bait to me. and it was posted immediatly after that monkley man was complaining for 6 posts about hurricane not being any good. How many of us are there here?And to top it all off i gave good advice too, take out of hurricane. but apparently im autistic for asking where his skills come from. Faggots, the lot of you.
>>733810727>Just remove runewordsGood idea, very original
>>733810825
>>733810894Pretty recent.As in, LoD 1.10 recent.
i've made a game (ladder softcore) called:free for vpassword: vif u want any free stuff, it's mostly low/mid lvl uniques and some set stuff, charms rings etc, nothing amazing but might help some1 if they are starting fresh today, just needed to clear out my stash
>>733810772works on my machine
>Why are these players using the same reliable equipment? is it because we have a ridiculous amount of worthless uniques and runewords?>NERF EVERYTHING NOW!
>>733810894are you referring to soft points not boosting synergies? that's always been the case for most skills, there are only a few cases where they do (amazon passives apply to Valkyrie using their total level for instance, because it's not coded as a synergy but the valk taking the actual final effect into consideration)
>drop death's fathom in ladder>low roll
Never seen this one before
>>733811003>can't make insight in mancatcher because it's the wrong type of stick with pointy end>can make infinity in mancatcher because it's the right type of stick with pointy end
>>733811034yeah and the "synergy" from prayer auras to cleansing and meditate work the same way
>>733811034>there are only a few cases where they doSuch as the druid summon tree, funnily enough.
>>733811020this but unironicallyrunewords turned everyone into one-man army aura monsters and ultimately reduced gameplay by giving deterministic uber gear for minimal investment>j-just don't use them...yeah i guess
>>733809245Cure is pretty cheap and will keep your skellies from dying to poison and curses. Shael Io Tal in a helm
>>733810984game: free for vpw: vcome get it while it's hot, gear your lvl 12 character like nobody's business
Which is better for summon necro>act 2 merc Might aura>act 3 merc Enchant
I refuse to use runewords because it's Jewish magic and just as Satanic as the demons we fight
>>733811187>yeah i guessclassic remained popular for that reason
>>733811259I am at the Wage Cage sadly
>>733811292the aura lol if your skellies need enchant to hit something is terribly wrong
>>733811187Buff the shitty things you retard. Nerfing everything just makes the game feel like shit.
>>733811292fuck if i no nigga
>>733811293it's more pagan shit desu which is still blasphemous
>>733811293Actually it's Norse magic. You can thank Odin from hanging himself upside down from a tree for discovering the alphabet.Or the Celts.Or the Phoenicians.
>>733811293>pay the jews for the game>uses necromancer with GOLEM>is a golemmany such cases
>>733811401You being unable to appreciate Rockfleece and Steelclash doesn't mean the game would be shit without OP crap, it means your standards are fucked by addiction.
>>733811259This is all trash.
>>733811401>Buff the shitty thingssure, free school lunches and extended recess for everyone"buff the bad things" just creates a constant powercreep ceiling where enemies need to be made stronger to adjust for increased player power, then you're back to square one because the math got bigger but nothing actually changed
>>733811259Thanks again for the wings!
>>733811292the act 3 merc might just cast all his enchants on the same skelly. unreliable fella tries his best but it aint it
I think I'm over this game for now actually. I'm going to keep tabs on whats going on with it out of morbid curiosity to see what they do with warlock in regards to nerfs so i can laugh at the power fantasy enjoyers. And what their plans are for new content because I'm still curious what the new devs with the help of Llama come up with.
>>733811601yeah i know that's why i'm throwing it away but it's handy for ppl just starting up today idk
>>733811698>I'm still curious what the new devs with the help of Llama come up with.more retarded out-of-place shit with zero downsides like the warlock
>>733811602You don't need those things to be overpowered, you just need to at least make players think of something else as an alternative. You really do just think in extremes don't you? That lack of moderation is why you shit yourself about what everyone else is doing.
When will they let sorceress cast cold armor on allies tho?
Name some underrated or unorthodox builds.
>>733811834>You really do just think in extremes don't you?diablo 2 is a game about extremesyou all-in one ability for 30 consecutive levels so that it does enough damage to let you play the gameyour "build" is almost always going to be 900 points in vitality and 80 levels of synergies dedicated to a singular button > you just need to at least make players think of something else as an alternativeto which runewords are completely antithetical, since everything devolves into spirit/insight/etc
>>733811867frozen orb sorc
>>733812060Blaze Sorceress>run past enemies and let them burn to death while you're already 4 screens ahead of them
>>733812060i used to enjoy a fireclaw bear druid with a 6 shael scythe. the fire dmg isn't sky high but with that attack speed it's pretty damn strong and the fissure synergy gives you a reliable ranged aoe when you want it. the problem is just the whole full-fire damage making it a pain in the ass in later diffs
>>733812060Crossbow barbarian.
>>733812086>to which runewords are completely antithetical, since everything devolves into spirit/insight/etcso just buff some uniques so they're not wasted opportunities.
>>733812060apocalypse druidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsdfPdf7qGk
im surprised how many buttons are required to play eldritch warlock, even more than wind druidmirrored bladesechoing strikesummon goatmanconsumehex banesigil lethargydeath markblade warpengorge
>>733810232fuck this gay earth
>>733812353if the choice is between >nerf insight and make mana regeneration better to compensate, resulting in equal mana if you continue to run insight but now it's not as mandatoryvs>attempt to rebalance hundreds of uniques and all of the mods available to rares/magic items in some herculean task to make anything as good as just slapping RalTirTalSol on every single mercI'll take the former
>>733790917you're blocking with a book? it gives 100 defense and requires 90 strength? that's dumb. it's a book.
>>733812086nta but you're a fucking midwit
had to pass on rotw. i don't need to play yet another caster for the umpteenth timewake me when zeal, vengeance and barb in general are not extremely niche and or dogshit
>>733812507It's a big book.
>>733812643explain why without sounding mad (you can't)
>>733798942Im down with them finishing Act 4 though. Its obvious that it was rushed for a deadline and they never went back to finish it.
>>733812717throwbarb is amazing now if you haven't fucked around with it yet
>>733812467for em it;sechoing strikeshieldthe teleporting bladesummon goatsummon fire spittersummon defiler or whatever it was
>>733812717Attack Rating just has to go. It's that simple really. Or, at the very least, hitting a (reasonable) Dex target either caps your chance to hit at 95% or Attack Rating efficacy is tripled across the board (even then I still think you wouldn't be able to get 95% to hit).>ZealNeeds splash. PD2 did it and it's fantastic.>VengeanceHappy with this being a single target ability that just chunks. But right now it's so fucking awful.When it comes to Paladin I think there should be a way to stack multiple auras without needing items like Dream etc. Being able to run Holy Fire and Conviction passively would be huge. Maybe there could be a way to run multiple auras, but the more you stack them their strength is reduced to balance it out.>BarbAR issue again. WW sucks because it can miss even with ludicrous stat investment. Frenzy could use splash maybe I dunno, I only ever play Zerker for trav/pit horking and it's great at what it does.
>>733812903>nowalways was. was just hard to gear because every other farmer saw ethereal lacerators and warshrikes as trash loot
holy fuckits happeningim leveling a blizz sorc asap
>>733813042Congrats!Put sigons on her.
>>733813042anon...
https://youtu.be/eqSFu3IU_hI
>>733812831You reason in cool sounding one-liners devoid of any reflexionThere's no reason why a dozen builds pre-bis suck THAT HARD compared to a one item echolock/hammerdinBuff the shitty things.
>>733812060Hybrid zon20 frozen arrow, 20 frost arrow20 charged strike, 20 lightning furyDual element build you can do worldstone keep with/ using starter gear / medium level gear. Worldstone keep is a level 85 area for every floor and has good elite packs, think of baal as the chest a the end.the meme sorc20 nova 20 lightning mastery20 firewall 20 fire masteryfor farming countess and hell andy with starter sorc gear. nova is perfect spell for countess and firewall helps finish off andy quick if your merc can tank her
>>733813372>There's no reason why a dozen builds pre-bis suck THAT HARDd2 was designed as a team-oriented game in which the entire premise was balanced around different classes accentuating one another with their myriad of buffs and utilities runewords completely shit on that concept by turning the individual player into an enormously powerful singular entity through stat-blobbing>Buff the shitty things.you missed the point. they're supposed to be shitty - runewords are the outlier
>>733813019nah, it was shit when you had to go back to town every 30 seconds to restock your supply of weapons, even restocking weapons like warshrike would run dry quick and if it was ethereal you'd either need to swap to another stack or wait 15 minutes for it to replenishnow once you get to level 20 throwing mastery you can go half an hour before your stack runs out, and if you get any +skills or other sources of crit any stack will last you infinitely
Why is Warlock better than every class (except Sorc)? What the fuck was Blizzard thinking?
>>733813885It's nu-blizzard.
>>733813885buying it and being disappointed would have caused more refunds
>>733813885They made a class specifically tailored to not be completely useless in hell solo unlike every other class.But also almost every remaster always adds a strong thing to entice new players to come back and play around with it.The better question is why is everyone such a fucking whiny faggot about something being strong?
>>733813885Warlock was designed to be good. Every other class has specs that were intentionally designed poorly.
>>733814007>The better question is why is everyone such a fucking whiny faggot about something being strong?it sets a grim precedent that they're going to keep stapling overpowered garbage with a pricetag onto a timeless classic
>>733813885because they want people to buy the $25 dlc. crazy eh?
>>733813698That's how the game has been for way, way longer than it hasn't been at this point.You wanna play pre-1.10 you can, but don't try and persuade people who beg for a half-decent clear with their favrourite shitty builds that they're in the wrong.
>>733814007It's fine if he's strong, but older characters should be buffed up to his level too. All this does is just say to Blizzard retards will buy anything that shit out as long as it powercreeps the game.
>>733814103It's blizzard, they rarely ever make a good game. As long as they don't nerf shit, I can ignore things I don't like and so can you.
>>733813885other anons have the gist of itthe bald guy that made poe1 basically said as much. you want to make your new class hilariously busted to get people into the game. plebbit is full of threads glazing the game and the class despite it being their first time in the game, so the bait worked. they're having a le blast despite playing the most comically busted class ever, thinking that this is the og diablo 2 experience that they somehow missed out on all these years. they did it in D4 with the faggotborn and then with the paladin
>>733792024Fuck that, add more gear slots for merc
>>733814138>people who beg for a half-decent clear with their favrourite shitty buildsyou're effectively requesting a homogenized environment of which you can have plenty of that in diablo 3/4, if you really want to see the endpoint of a game where everyone stands shoulder-to-shoulderit's not very thrillingthe end result is a game full of warlocks where everyone can do everything and the difference of your class is largely cosmetic
>>733814007They just took a 27 year old game that had massive success and kept a strong player base for that entire time and threw a wrench into the workings of the entire thing. WHAT THE FUCKThis is not alright.
Can anyone rush me through hell? I'm in act 2 and can't even get through maggot lair since everything is lightning resist.
>>733814178Warlock effortlessly trivializes the game. Fine if they want to buff up the other characters but blizz are gonna have to add newer and more difficult endgame challenges, or tweak the numbers so current content isn't trivial. And then you've effectively done the same thing as just nerfing
>>733814304even just 2 rings and an ammy would be nice
any pvpfriends?how's warlock in duels? i assume he just instantly deletes people with his giant screen nukes
>>733814330ur fucked m8 nobody gets through maggot lair thats a myth
>>733814319Diablo 2 was never a great game. It was good, but it's overflowing with problems. Your attachment to it doesn't concern me. I give you a logical answer and you can cry and scream and shit yourself about it I don't care.It's Blizzard. They almost never make anything good. If you didn't realize that by now I don't know what to tell you.
>>733814007>to not be completely useless in hellThe point of hell is that it's hell. The clue is in the name, retard. Not only is he not useless, he can solo it naked.
>>733814347I mean all you need to do is make it so other classes have mechanics that can clear Hell solo like warlock can. At end game right now Warlock isn't actually the best at anything. His targeted farm is weaker than javazon and sorc, his dps is lower than trapsin, and he's not as fun as summon necro.
Did the expac do anything to make druid or assassin not shit?
>>733814512ALL classes can clear hell solo
>>733814419>warlock>pvpi suspect nobody wants to risk losing their demon
>>733814512>mean all you need to do is make it so other classes have mechanics that can clear Hell solo like warlock canAll of them can, they just can't do it naked, you moron.
>>733814468Good.
>>733795398Are you so retarded and contrarian that you require the explanation of the power curve concept which is the most fundamental mechanic in gaming in general ? Yes you fucking moron the endgame should always be to become an afk farming Chad.If you do not like that play something else.Different guy btwl
>>733813885They made a class slightly weaker than paladin and sorcerer and people are losing their minds.
>introduce a new class with a skill that has innate immune breaking capability in a game that makes you grind for days for a single sunder charm
>>733814464>Diablo 2 was never a great game.By what fucking measure? It's been a success for 27 years. That doesn't just happen by accident. If that's not greatness then what is? Anything you have to say that's bad about the game is romplestomped by this fact and you can only assume there is more good than bad.
>>733814648>they just can't do it nakedsummoner necro's gimmick for nearly 2 decades
>>733814317Thats why the other guy called you a retard and I'm calling you a midwit. You have 0 nuance, which is crazy because more specialization would be healthy for this game but you're horrible at arguing for it.The game has been sorcdin central for how long? Barely anyone plays druid. Even less rabies. If my clear is a few seconds faster the game is ruined? yeah sure why not.You pick a flavour that has advantages/disadvantages, nobody wants to be a "support" in an arpg. Again, you're free to play pre-1.10 with other jaded niggas.
>>733814468>Not only is he not useless, he can solo it naked.Good reason to pirate this game
>>733814719You can stop being dishonest at any time
>>733812467Its a class designed with modern diablo like methodology of using more than 2 skills to be effective.
>>733814512He is by far the best at full clearing the game to farm sunder charms, the only other class that comes close is a super endgame geared Lightning SorcHis fire build DPS is one of the highest in the game when you have 18k+ apocalypses layered with fire walls in between, anything not fire immune dies in one rotation even on p8 tzs, and fire immunities get broken between sunder + heph aura + apoc having -fire res, consuming tainted giving -fire res, etcetcetcEchoing strikes is the strongest raw dps in the game, not even up for debate, the skill is legitimately broken and does 10x more damage than it shouldOn top of that he's safer than barbarian with his 60-70% damage mitigation and 2.5k hp (FOR A RANGED CLASS BTW), as soon as you get enigma on him he becomes an absolute motherfucker that beats out Sorc for tele farming anything
Hilarious how /v/ is now full up on easy mode Redditors who complain about difficulty
>>733811218thanks, working great :D
>>733814783there's easy access posts all the way back to 2011 gamefaqs forums talking about doing hell on naked necro
>>733814690>new class doesn't give a shit about immunities>new class also has the most uncommon immunity damage in abundance>new class also has SS tier phys/magical mixed dps>sunder charms drops are turbos nerfedthings that make you go hmmm
guy in charge of Blood Oath must have been a pajeet (or women) lmao
>>733814986You're still being dishonest
>new ladder season>i'll make my favorite fana zealer, maybe it's good this time?>it isn'tkind of wish i didn't buy reign of the lock lol. should have waited to see if they're ever getting around to buffing melee builds
The only ARPG i've playd is Grim Dawn. is this game similar to it? is it more like poe? all I (think) I know is that poe is more focused on grinding
>>733815126mmm no
>>733815163it's more like poe, but poe took all its inspiration from diablo
>>733811602You must be brain damaged.I cannot believe I read that cancer.This post should be classified as cognito hazard.Power creep does not occur from buffing shitty stuff. It usually occurs from new things that change the paradigm of the game in poorly thought out ways.Do you even know what power creep is. Do you think it happens automatically or something ?
>>733815287>gradually making everything more powerful isn't powercreepit's impressive you could type all that with a foot in your mouth
>>733815287lmao you stupid cunt
>>733814512>His targeted farm is weaker than javazon and sorc, his dps is lower than trapsinniggas just b typin anything
>>733815425That's literally not what powercreep is though you fucking mongoloid inbred ape. The Warlock is what actually is powercreep.
>>733813885dlc content is always op
i knew this shit would be a dumpster fire when i saw that locks could just enslave a mob that gave them a free infinity
>>733814684No lol he's way betterTho I agree that anytime the complete supremacy of those 2 classes is challenged their mains have a meltdown
>>733815495i think you're wrong and it doesn't seem you're going to bend on your stance, so my rebuttal is that you are gay and silly
I beated Izual today and I just tried to find the second waypoint in act iv and and and I had to fight izual again well myMuslim spear guy died this time and I was stuck poking him to death with my javalins and I ran out of mana potions so it took forever but he died again and and and my game crashed x.x
>>733815287>>733815495Is it still "Power Creep" if I buff an old character?Yes. If you buff an old character so they are now stronger than they were at launch, you have "crept" the power ceiling of the game.Developers often do this because players hate nerfs. Buffing a weak character feels like a gift; nerfing a strong character feels like a theft. Over five years, a "buff-only" balance philosophy leads to a game where every character is a god, and the developers have to add "Ultra-Nightmare-God-Tier" difficulty levels just to keep the game playable.Fun Fact: This is exactly what happened to Diablo 3 and Warframe. Characters became so powerful through constant buffs and new gear that the "creep" forced the developers to add health multipliers to enemies that reached into the trillions.Would you like me to look into how specific games (like Genshin Impact or Destiny 2) have handled this "Power Inflation" problem?
>>733815703it's widely accepted that those 2 classes are top tier. This isn't a competitive MMO. The people that still play live on .jsp and just trade. Nobody there gives a flying fuck about their favorite archetype etcSorc starts out very weak and you gotta be careful with farming because you can just get 1 tapped in Durance if you tele haphazardly until you get some good gear, but thanks to tele and Blizz you can get that gear very fastHdin just slaps in minimal gear investment but you are hamstrung by no tele (unless you pay for a staff) and finicky hammer positioningEveryone knows Barbs are just dogwater for most things except being the absolute best pit/trav farmer/mfer. All classes, some more than others, have drawbacks. Locks have what drawbacks exactly? Their tele can't go through walls. Like, ok, that's it? It completely invalidates playing anything else. I'd argue that Druid is the weakest class in the game and needs to be looked at more than anything else
>>733815425Ok so you do not know what power creep is as I suspected.So stfu kid.
>>733815990you're going to battle me with semantics when the outcome is the same regardlessyou never had an argument
>>733815467What a creative and original insult.Eat your boyfriend's shit crusted cock, you imbecilic, retarded troglodyte.You might as well have written, no you.
got 4 these in 20 minutes, 2 in the same terror zone, 2 from andarielnice balance blizzard you fucks
>>733815703Hammering and smite both have an easier time than lock. You have to stack 6 different resist droppers for apocalypse to actually kill fire immune reliably in even act 1 of hell. If people are losing their shit half the build is just to get through fire immunity to still clear more awkwardly than paladin I dont really know what to say. I think lock is fun and I hope they make some adjustments to make classes liie druid and assassin up to his level but it's hardly a right click wonder of a class people shit themselves about.
>manager can you direct me towards the nearest restroom>manager gets his map out >sure just go down the corridor of skinned corpses, then turn left, and right, and left, then go up a hall with flayed alive people, then right, walk past the gored, mutilated remains of some villagers and then turn left, you can't miss it.>and don't pet the stygian dolls, they don't like it>also, please don't pee in the river of blood, I know it will be tempting but just don't do it or Mephisto will get cranky againAct 3 is the best.
>>733815890They didn't have to do shit to d3. The rift system was the endgame as soon as the expac hit and it's the endgame now. You just went further as stronger build options hit.
>>733814986hell on naked necro took a long time and was only for /players1
>>733816193>also, please don't pee in the river of blood, I know it will be tempting but just don't do it or Mephisto will get cranky againYou're too late, hahahaha
>>733816287doesn't mean it never happened, and yes i'm being pedanticzesty desert man will not devalue the past achievements of my handsome aryan bonerboy
>>733815890I bet you wrote all that thinking you are extremely smart and savvy.Ok retard what do you call it if a class gets nefed and then it gets buffed to the point that it is slightly weaker than it was initially, pre nerf ?Is this power creep by your backward thinking?What kind of excuse will you find this time instead of admitting that you don't know what power creeping is exactly ?
niggas are replying to an israelgpt post I'm done
The Children of Bul-Kathos have gone insane.
I only recently noticed that he voices Mephisto and the narrator from book that starts the Countess quest.
>>733816130fire seems like batshit insane OP for leveling, i mean aoe that pushes back and gets through fire resistant mobs? FOR LEVEL 6?!but the miasma spells seem better for dealing with immunes in hell until you get GG gear then maybe fire is better again. Also miasma might be better off for bosses too? im not sure.
>>733816583You mean Aldaris?
>>733816583starting a sentence with 'and' is a mark of a shit writer
>>733816617I finished Hell with an Abyss warlock. Pretty easy except for a few Magic Immune enemies and no way to break them, like the unravellers before Baal. But for bosses, you just drop Abyss and run around it, the abyss killing the boss while you flee.
>>733816617Miasma is a much easier leveling experience. Fire is good through nightmare but regardless of how many immunity reducers you have you will still do piss for damage compared to non immune damage. People talk about "18k" damage but when that is only 10% damage through the resists and takes 2 second to go off its a lot weaker than a spam spell of any kind. And fire resist is crazy common through most of hell. Going the magic route is good for the same reason as it is on paladin.
>>733816032Understanding the subject of the argument is not semantics. That fact alone indicates that you do not know what are you talking about.I can win an argument against you as much as I can win an argument with a dog.I communicate with words that humans understand, the dog barks without having a conception of what I'm saying or what's happening in general. I give up because obviously you cannot speak to dogs, and then God knows that the dog thinks happened there.That's how this is going so far.
>>733816680It's not the start of the sentence, it's just where the player character begins reading from the book.
>>733816393The part you’re missing is that power creep is a macro concept, not a diary of one character's patch notes. If something like the Warlock enters the game at a power level of hammerdin and sorc, and the devs buff all the 'shitty' classes from their decade of peasantry status so they don't feel like dead weight in comparison, the entire game's power floor just rose as a result. When the baseline for 'not being dead weight' moves up, that is the literal definition of creep.
>>733816727>like the unravellers before BaalFor 3 points you fuck them in the ass with corpse explosionAlso makes tz Tal rasha farmable with no worriesvery worth it imo
>Warlockeks still acting innocent and pretending a class that doesn't break immunities isn't inherently broken by design in a game where every single monster has immunities and other classes have no ways to break immunities other than an expensive runeword or to farm for giga rare charms(lol
>>733816129The drop pools are so bad lol
>>733814896>He is by far the best at full clearing the game to farm sunder charmsNo that's still Sorc because of her teleport. Just make sure you build blizzard/nova and you can literally get to end game ezpz. She also has significantly faster farm than him since his teleport is still jank and not a substitute for enigma.
>>733816809Fuck immunities to begin with.
>>733816809you WILL refer to him as Master Sensei Senior MrLlamaSC, designer of the BEST class ever to grace this filthy game
>>733816129They work for the mercenary... the masketta man...
>>733816871>No that's still Sorc because of her teleportI'm using a sorc and clearing a level on Hell is impossible because everything is fucking immune to your main damage and usually your sub damage too. Even if you're running all 3 elements you'll run into enemies that are straight immune to magic as well. And your merc can't just deal with all that shit themselves.Sorcs get shit on in hell.
>>733816953>OathmakerA lot of loyalty for a hired gun.
How to get loot in d2r 101>step 1 make a barb>step 2 put all points in find item and potion and run speed>step 3 join hell chaos runs and yell at corpses whilst soaking up xp>step 4 report paladins running redemption aura
>>733816871That's why you just wear Enigma.
>>733816962Immune to Magic means literally nothing to Sorc. Magic is a damage type, think 'Arcane.' Fire/Cold/Lightning =/= Magic.
>>733816953I'm in act 5 nightmare atm and haven't seen a single one of the banes. Bane? Where is he? What happened to Bane? If I put on his set will I live?
>>733817005*rolls in with corpse explosion*What now bitch boi
>>733817005>scrounging around for scraps in hammerdin bot lobbieskekunironically how i found most of my runeword bases since they're only programmed to pick up the typical $$ RMT shit for forumgoldway more profitable than running cows even if it feels like parasite behavior (it is)
the most fun thing to do in this game is spam bone prisons in baalruns.
>>733817069>*reports you*>>733817108Best thing to do really until you get gear to clear trav yourself.On p8 you can hork all kinds of wild shit. You get gear very fast
>>733817247why? sorc bots are the ones spamming baal lobbies, they just tp over it
r8 my collection
>>733817313Are those other materials ladder only?
>>733817313>23 orts
>>733816896immunities are good because they encourage build diversity and give jsutification for different builds. Different characters can go different build and farm different things. a build that can farm countess might not be able to farm that necro guy in act 5, so they need to trade for the key or make a new character or respec for it. That means that the guy who can farm the act 5 key feels special about his build even if he is not the fastest clearing build or whatever.With no immunities then any build will kill everything at the same speed, and when every build can do eveything then the only viable build is the one that does it the fastest. The problem with the game are the builds that break the immunity endgame and can farm everything, like hammerdin. Builds like infinity sorc builds that can deal with immunities arent as bad because at least they require a GG item and at that point its w/e, it would have been easier to make an alt to bypass immunes you want to farm anyways.
>>733816962sorcs are specialists at first, focusing on zones with few immunities to their build like fire sorcs running andy or cold sorcs running ancient tunnelsi wouldnt recommend a budget sorc for running TZ>Even if you're running all 3 elements you'll run into enemies that are straight immune to magic as well.magic immunity doesn't mean immune to all elemental damage, magic is a specific distinct damage type that few abilities inflict like blessed hammer, bone spear, and some warlock skills
first unique ammy drop, could've been worse
>>733816795Wow, you are truly malicious and despicable.First you literally classify any buffing as power creeping and when I call you out you repeat what I said, back to me.Your initial argument was that any buffing is power creeping btw which is retarded.You are truly the lowest of the low.Also by reading this thread it just occured to me that the vast majority of people do not understand how the basic concepts of rpg games operate or what is the design goal.Which should not be that surprising.Let me tell you as a final note that no, you should not buff the "floor" of the game because there are no shitty classes anymore after everyone has hypothetically been brought to a decent power level.That is the point of buffing, to be better by default in comparison to the content of the game.I'm sure you think that diablo 4 has a genius enemy level system.
>>733817313I completed Hell and haven't seen a single Sol rune. Fucking hell.
>>733817343all offline single player
>>733817423> the point of buffing: to be better by default in comparison to the content of the game.That is the definition of power creep, yes.I think you're just shadowboxing with your own hallucinations at this point.
>>733816393>I bet you wrote all that He did not
>>733790917No meme how do you play diablo 2, is there a tl;dr somewhere? Like the "I wish I knew starting out" but not 2 hours long. I remember it is possible to brick your character by winging it so the game essentially needs a guide unless ur fluent in D2. Growing up I played a necromancer tried to do summoner and got hard walled by end game resists.Is the easiest class to do well on still sorc?
>>733790917why would only warlocks use tomes? shouldn't Sorc and Necro both also be able to use them?
>>733817757they can't read hebrew
>>733817379Immunities exist only due to the limited development time the team had and because d2 was not a live service game.The concept of immunities comes in stark contrast with the basic design philosophy of dumping multiple pts on a single skill.It is an archaic mechanic that should be removed.You do not understand that because you have 0 design literacy and because you take for granted what are essentially game exploits that are necessary to defeat a mechanic that is so ubiquitous and yet so difficult and assanine to deal with unless you employ the aforementioned unintuitive exploits.
>>733817757sorces have innate magicnecros use dead stuff
>>733817539just got another one from andariel :D
>>733817804>Necromancer>the class with summon golem>can't read hebrewyeah, i'm not buying it.
Is fist of heaven good for general use or is it a super specialized build for farming very specific areas? I would assume it's good anywhere that animals aren't common.
>>733817905he only read the English translation of the Torah
>>733817757why would only paladins use targes?why would only barbs use hats with wings?why would only necro like to swings a bottled head around?
according to /v/,>all classes should do 18k damage with one button>all classes should be able to teleport through walls>all immunities should be removed>all items should have piles of main stat bonuses and useful perkscongrats, you assholes just made diablo 4 again
>>733817643I think you are an esl. There can't be any other explanation.Being strong in comparison to the game content is not the same as trivializing said content and thus providing an experience that is not fun.That's what power creeping does and why it is undesirable.It seems you are an esl that can only think in extremes as another poster said. You definitely have issues.
>>733818027Diablo 4 is p good :D but I have been enjoying d2 ^^
by the way you can stock up only to 99 in gems./materials/runes
>>733818027According to /v/ only 2 classes should be good and the rest should stay masochist simulators.
>>733817987>why would only paladins use targes?dna coded to holy warriors like him only>why would only barbs use hats with wings?these helms are huge and for chads like barbs only, the rest will wobble so they don't use em, heads too small>why would only necro like to swings a bottled head around?no one else wants to swing a smelly zombie head, let's be real, the women the least of all
>>733818103>only 99Not even enough to reroll grand charms, should be 9999
>>733817372what should I do with them?
>>733818103For runes if I had that many id roll into the rare ones. For gems I wish there w a s an equally valuable sink.
>>733818027>>733818112Damn, the duality of man (v) again.
>>733817987Targes are too hard for Amazons to properly use,and necros are too lazy to figure them outBarbarians think hats with wings look cool, but nobody else does, so the other classes are too embarrassed to wear themBottled heads only work for the Necro because he actually knew the guy. It'd be weird to swing around some strangers head.
>>733817313bretty gr8 8/8meanwhile just ran 30 minutes of duriels and got one ancients statue, this drop rate is ass
>>733818172According to /v/ this is /v/ in a /v/-shell
>>733817940Only good for chaos and even then hammers is just better on anything higher than p3
>>733818062>Being strong in comparison to the game content is not the same as trivializing said contentYou certainly are full of contradictions today, big boy. I think we're done here.
>ah haha well you see I only play the classes that happen to be extremely overpowered>raise the floor by buffing the other classes? >*wags finger*>Now now, we wouldn't want this game to turn into Diablo 4 now would we? >*shackles a demon that gives me free Infinity and is functionally immortal*
>>733818027Don't lump me with them I first started d2 in 2001.I'm from the sojs and gulls being standard currency times. 4 gulls equals 1 soj. 40 perfect skulls equals 1 soj. Good times.
>>733818342>good times>never knowing when you'll check your stash to see if half your soj's poofed because they were duped
>>733818281>chami found one of them when d2r released, i shit my pants at such a rare drop but then realised they aren't actually worth that much relative to rarity cause the runewords just aren't that good
>>733818281fuck that is nice
>please be good>please be good>please be good
>>733818487Sadly yes, Bers remain the most valuable because of Enigma and infinity on top of just being a good enough rune on its own to see use, Jahs are also nice but are about the same value of Ber despite being a tier higherAt least they've added multiple ways to use Zods now, hopefully they show some love to other bad runes
>>733818454You're talking about the post duping era. This wrecked the diablo 2 economy big time and made the player base shrink.I remember the day that hack came out, I hadn't heard of it and traded 40 perfect skulls for an soj. That very same day people were duping shit all over the place, people were joining servers and throwing high value shit all over the camp and leaving.
>>733818559inb4>saracen's chance
>>733818559somehow manald heal
>>733818590That was mostly me lol I thought it was funny
>>733818559a nice mara's kaleidoscope for anon
>>733818698kek
>>733818620screw u dude Im proud of that drop
>>733818559angel
>>733818769kek I remember you from earlier that's why I said it :P
>>733818559>>733818620>>733818698>>733818763>>733818809For once Andariel didn't screw me, thank you RNG gods. Mara's would have been better, but I like this as well.
>>733792024probably with Act 6 there was a female class that was supposed to be made so it could be that
We need a Mr Llama class so badly!!
>>733818883explode
>>733818709lol I may have been one of the people who saw you then. Crazy.
>>733818945
>>733818942here you gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TI2jQ_Whbo
Not even death can save you from /v/
>>733819128/v/ is Hatred's domain.
>>733819170>The Hatepost King
>>733818301Absolutely we are done.It is clear that your iq is too low to conceptualize nuance and non extreme states. You perceive the reality of a state were the characters rolfstomp content, and a state were characters are strong yet not so strong that content is no challenge at all, as contradictory. That is definitely a mental deficiency of some kind.So yeah it is pointless.
>>733818301Absolutely we are done.It is clear that your iq is too low to conceptualize nuance and non extreme states.You perceive the reality of a state were the characters rolfstomp content, and a state were characters are strong yet not so strong that content is no challenge at all, as contradictory. That is definitely a mental deficiency of some kind.So, I don't see any reason to continue this discussion.
>>733818301Absolutely we are done.It is clear that your iq is too low to conceptualize nuance and non extreme states.You perceive the reality of a state were the characters rolfstomp content, and a state were characters are strong yet not so strong that content is no challenge at all, as contradictory. That is definitely a mental deficiency of some kind.So, there is definitely no reason to continue this.
>>733818301Absolutely we are done.It is clear that your iq is too low to conceptualize nuance and non extreme states.You perceive the reality of a state were the characters rolfstomp content, and a state were characters are strong yet not so strong that content is no challenge at all, as contradictory. That is definitely a mental deficiency of some kind.So yeah it is pointless.
angy
>>733819596System glitch.It wasn't done on purpose.
The Raped
>>733819646>im actually quite calm rn
>>733819646so thats why you posted 5 posts with the same first lines but an altered last line?you using AI to 'argue' sweetie?
>>733819646LOL
he mad
>>733819397>>733819468>>733819512>>733819552>>733819559>I am definitely not madKill yourself my nigga
>>733819705Yeah, I bet you cannot tell the difference between humans and AI. Probably everyone looks kinda the same to you right ?
D3 is better than D2, you should stop living in the past
>farming Andy for shitter items like Shako and Gheeds>Sur rune drops from zombie in her throne roomT-thanks...
>>733819825No you faggots.
>>733820023d2r is newer than d3. checkmate, bitchboy
>>733819705No you fucking mongoloid. I thought my post did not go through the first time, I tried to delete the duplicate and then the system shit the bed.But yeah can believe that you mad or that I'm using AI or whatever.Who gives a fuck what 3rd world, esl shitters think anyways.
>>733820136>wraithskin>not ethereal by defaultboooooooooooooooo
>>733820182>t. israelgpt
>>733820136
>>733820136>ywn be a retarded kid again and think magic resist meant you take less damage from spellcaster mobs
>>733820402mby it's a magic arrow spellcaster so
>>733820182
>>733819912>>733820182lol
>>733794524>that's what an ARPG is supposed to be,To you. In your opinion.>>733793568You can easily gamble a 25 charge teleport ammy and use that on other characters and just repair it. Or Naj's puzzler until you get an enigma.Unless you're solo self found in which case enigma is very far off and you should probably get a MeteOrb Sorc going.
>>733818027Lowkey Diablo 4 fixed a ton of problems with Diablo 2. No one wants to enter hell and realize their class and build is bricked, and even when they "fix" it they still have to run/teleport past half the content because of immunities. D4's problem is that it swings too far in the other direction, where the entire game is trivial until Hell with no sense of progression and builds are cookie cutter mandated behind whatever Blizzard wants to be meta at the time.
>>733820182There's three versions of the post...
>>73382053125 teleport is barely enough to get an average Mephisto run. Not to mention the prohibitive repair costs that will eat into your gold reserves better spent gambling for SoJs.
>>733792336>>Demon Hunter>That's just warlockbased retard
>>733820578has anyone found sojs through gambling?
>>733794625>doesn't use manaSorry wrong game nigger.
>>7338205632 versions.The original and the slightly altered duplicate because I thought the original post did not go through.
>>733820689lol
>>733820608In my 20 years of playing D2 on and off, it happened exactly once.
>>733820608it's possible but the chance of getting a unique is 1/2000, then you have to hope for the correct uniqueA quick google search brings up total odds in the ~1/60,000 to ~1/100,000 range, aka just do yourself a favor and run NM andy if you want to target farm a SoJ
>just realized I can't actually trade any of the items I find on ladder because there's no auction house and pub games are deader than deadWell that kinda sucks. And no, d2jsp isn't a legitimate option. I will not trade my items for "forum gold", get the fuck out of here with your jewish nonsense.
>>733820775I should also add I've gotten a few maras before, so statistically speaking there should be a ton of SoJ acquired through gambling.
>>733820608Yeah, not worth it.
>>733820809You don't gamble to target farm ammys and rings, but as a bonus since gold has no use otherwise. That's why everyone recommends you get the cheapest teleport and weakness staff/stave because repair costs are not cheap.
>>733820812>find shako>make pub game "my shako 4 vex">play through the game and wait for someone to joinIt's not hard anon
>>733820812D2 would be a lot better if it was just a pure barter system>Trading X for Y>How about X for Y + some Zs?>Don't got many of those, can I give you one Z?>Sure>ty>ty
>>733820772I must have really hit a nerve there it seems.Am I gonna be living rent free in your head for the next 2 weeks ?Are you going to make threads about me with this screen cap trying to quell your autisting rage ?
>>733820883I know, but even with a max stash of gold you're never going to realistically find one. Lategame gold is either repairs, ressing mercs, or gambling rings/ammies/circlets. And I just spent 15mil yesterday gambling and then crafting amulets trying to get a +2/20fcr amulet, no luck though.
>Male game asking for shield>Some goober joins and asks offerLmao it's a tier 1 rune fuck off faggot.
Every time my buddies get me to play D2 I play Assassin because they're cool.Every time I get out of Act 1 I remember how much every Act after 1 sucks ass.Every time I hit Nightmare I remember how much Assassin sucks ass because Martial Arts (the FUN spec) requires 9 fucking hotkeys to do the same shit as anybody else
>>733821098Make* Shael*Fucking spellcheck keeps changing correct words and not fixing acrual typos like this.
>>733800083Consoleniggers like you will never know how it feels to rightclick the furthest corner from your character and actually go there.
fuk your shitty bane set, this is the real deal
>new class set piece has triple res on itlol
>>733820689No... Three.
>>733821363fuck yeah I am jelly
>>733821445>horazon's:All Resistances +50+3 to Warlock Skill Levels+350% Enhanced Damage+100% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items+30 to Enchant>tal rasha's:+3 To Sorceress Skill LevelsReplenish Life +1065% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items25% Faster Hit Recovery+150 To LifeAll Resistances +50+50 Defense vs. Missile+150 DefenseDisplay Aura>>>350% enhanced damage>>>lvl 30 enchant
>>733821680>>733821680>>733821680
>>733807776In case you aren't jokingRespec NOW.
>>733807764How noob are you? Light sorc is fucking great man. You never had a 200fcr light sorc with infinity merc?
>>733807776Bro this is stupid and even worse than blade flurry assassin
>>733821937>>733822189>>733822154
>>733820961Stop being so mad? It's turning you into a big meanie.
>>733811293Play classic d2 before lod ruined it (or runed it, I should say)
there needs to be a ARPG vg general at this point all you faggots play all the other ARPGs anyway
>>733822550You talk about other ARPGs in /poeg/ and ignore the retards telling you to leave.
