It's ok to save scum in Mewgenics. The game allows it and makes a real mechanic out of it. Ignore the scrubs that say otherwise.
>>733798236scrub cope
>Just never party wipe, bro, it's so easy>Save scumming and grinding are legitimate tactics, btwI'm NOOOOOOTICING
so what actually happens if you do it more than once?
>>733798236cope
>>733798385Steven takes over and you watch a let's play of your own gamethere's an achievement for beating the final boss of act 3 without seeing Steven
Mr.Ressetti is funnier.
Fun factFighter's synchronized spinning works on charmed targets or raised undead from necromancers, saw a spider kitten do the spin attack
>>733798236The game also locks something behind beating it without savescumming.
How do you beat the ice age boss without getting injuries?
>>733798487In other words, if the game crashes on me and I see Steven by accident, I will 100% never buy this game on sale to pass the achievements over.
>>733798487>you will play all 40+ hours of the game without savescumming and you will like it.Time to whip out the old SAM. I already 100% Isaac the legit way I am not fucking doing it again.
>>733798236I Alt+F4 to retry battles all the time and I've literally never seen him. What am I missing?
VERY COOL EDMUND I WILL RAPE YOU WITH AN AXE
>>733798858>having a potato pc>caring about cheevosHoly yikes
>>733799032Even if you never use the one freebie savescum, steven will still show up in ? nodes with a difficult intellect skill check, fail and he gives your cat deja vu(like confusion, but for every skill, even movement), passing lets you through without a hitch, a rare success gives you a useful tail head mutation that gives +1 intellect
>needs to savescum on a cat breeding gamelol.
Damn Aquajeet is still crying...
Make a copy of the save file before exiting to menu, then delete the save and restore the copy. You don't even have to quit the game.Game isn't playing fair so I won't either.
>>733799292Some bosses are genuine bullshit the first time seeing them and I fault nobody for savescumming after learning their gimmick so you can do the fight properly.
>>733798487Post the achievement
I did manage to play one run (excluding the suicide run to get deadman) of the game and it was already awesome. Hopefully I'll play more of it once I get the time for it. Oh and deadman's name is player btw.
>>733798487You literally see Steven as part of regular progression. He's what allows you to change the difficulty and refight house bosses. He shows up in the Chaos fight and random events.
>>733799409Cleric miniboss has low mobility, problem is she gets 4 turns a round
>savescumming>breeding>placing furniture>reading descriptions>minimizing losses>getting spoiled on boss mechanics>losing the fancy bow>using the fancy bow>getting good RNGYou didn't beat the game
>>733799631>Using anything but collarlessDidn't even play the game
>>733799631This poster is Delirium. Tell him to get ye gone!
>>733799631I will grind the whole meta doing just easy alley then I will read the wiki and beat the game.
>wipe to moon man twice>alt+f4 both times>steve's autoplay kicks in>say fuck it I lost anyway lets see what happens>winI did have control of the druid bird and it helped a lot since I got to push the hands towards the face a few times but I still don't know how it actually workedmy tank kept running over other cats and spamming brace the whole fight instead of attacking never attacking and somehow I won anywaymaybe I finally understand how to chew correctly
>run into some bad luck in a good run>get several dog shit runs right after>no more good items/catsAt least with Isaac I knew I could get lucky at any moment or at least know that I'm not fucked right from the beginning. Going into desert with no items is annoying, even more so when you look at what abilities your cats got and there's just fucking nothing.
Just had my first loss in the game through the most absolute bullshit series of events.>fight Lord Bunga>kills his champions>he jumps right on top of my mother fucking cat>takes 2 turns before the cat can react>lol eaten>go into the past>everything is well>event before boss fight is the hole>one of my cats go in the hole>respawns as an enemy against boss fight dinosaur>inevitably gets crushed>necromancer goes down>mini-mini-me with rando ability eyes hurl is corpse at the fucking feed>body gets stomped and destroyed>archer tries to endure but inevitably gets destroyed because I foolishly picked Tower DefenseSo yeah, lesson learned: don't kill the champions when you're too close to Lord Bunga and the Tower Defense ability should be nowhere near any run to the past.
>>733799390That's what I'm doing.As soon as that HURR WE GOT PUNISHMENT MECHANIC IF DO WELL :) tweet was twat I stopped treating the game with any degree of respect.I like the game and I'm having fun with the game.I also like fucking with it and have fun cheating it.
Anyone else not seeing completion percentages for achievements? Every other game shows them fine
WHY ISN'T MY STOP HITTING YOURSELF ATTACK NOT WORKING HEEELP
>>733798487The only time I "savescummed" was early on when I didn't know that saving/quitting during a fight reset it to the beginning and I had to go to work, I thought it would just go back to whatever turn I was on.You already have to clear through the game twice anyways to get the different kaiju acheivements.
>>733798487You're retarded if you believe this after Isaac had the R Key item.
>RNGslop
>>733799921I think I"m going to start making saves before embarking on an adventure, and if I get a bullshit "you lose" event I will just roll back and wait a day. My time is wasted either way but at least I won't lose items.
>>733799823Bait the hands into spots where they can hit the face, then attack them from behind to make the man punch himself to death. Doing so also removes his brace. If a cat goes in front of his mouth he'll chow down, and won't use additional abilities until the cat breaks free, he dies, or the cat is swallowed.
>>733798858Crashes don't count actually.I know because the game actually crashed on me as I tried to suck up the giant amalgamate of bodies in the future with a fetus, game crashed and I didn't see Steven.
Use case for down syndrome cats?
>get the mole boss in bunker>he gets to act before my cats because they got slow legs due to shit mutations>jumps on them>my team spawn has no fucking room>they are all stuck to him now>he got poisoned by my druids passive>farts because of poison>kills half the team with bones>farts again because flees spawned and get to act and bite him before my cats for some reason>I wipe to poison before I even get to take actionsYou can bet I try to safe scum shit like this but I actually cant because I will get the same shitty map again and same thing happens.
guys i have a confessioni dont really like the crater theme that much
any tips for somebody new or not good at the game?what are he best builds or classes?what should i be going for
>>733800279Apparently the only thing the game checks for is Alt-F4'ing during a battle
>>733800372Retardmaxxing fighters
>>733800438Chew slow and play more. You'll get the hang of it
>>733800250I don't remember asking AI to explain a fight I already know and posted about
>>733800392its super fucking repetitive and the novelty of the ALIEN INVADER woman screeching it wore off really fast for me at least
>>733798236EHEM!!
>>733800438read everythinggo tank cleric fighter ranger every game
>>733800516I don't remember being a little bitch that needs Steven's help to win a boss fight and then posting about it on 4com.chan/vee, but here we are.
>>733800501
>>733800601is mage bad?
>>733800625of course you don't remember ityou're not me you silly bot
>>733800668Most of the time since most of mage's abilities are dogshit
>>733800668Kind of, it's less immediately obvious what it's good for an it won't help that much when just starting out.Mage is best for rolling disorders for breeding and occasionally high rolling instant win setups.If you use it at the start you'll be disappointed.
>>733800668mage can carry runs but needs the right setup and the game is pure fucking rng when it comes to thatother classes are more reliable and it helps with rng mitigation
>>733799823How the fuck did you win? I don't believe you. Steven ignores boss mechanic.
>>733799390>>733799921Reminds me of Redhooks bullshit balancing Hard for Hards sake.
Did they nerf the range for teleporting to units' back and the item to spawn grass? I swear it was infinite range
>>733799921>HURR WE GOT PUNISHMENT MECHANIC IF DO WELL :)Is that why I'm getting hit with bullshit events and bullshit fights from time to time?
>>733798236One redo per run is fair, especially for a game so punishing with its lack of undos within a turn.
HERE TO RAPE AND SLAY!KING OF THE RAPISTS OR SO THEY SAY!WITH CLOUDED EYES AND GREASY MANE!DICKING EVERYONE!THREAT OF TEETH AND CLAWGIRTH AND FURY ABOVE THE LAWTHE LADIES WILL LOVE HIMHIS BLOODLINE SPREADSON AND ON
>>733799921>HURR WE GOT PUNISHMENT MECHANIC IF DO WELLThis kind of thing is only fine if the game announces this to you like Godhand, otherwise skewing probabilities behind your back is fucking unfair and stupid.
>>733800962I wrote about it alreadybird's wind spell+attack was enough to send a hand towards the face (you actually get to control the bird cause he doesn't have the steve passive on him)the rest was just my mage stacking burn on the boss, my cleric spamming aoe heals with shields and the druid using the party-wide spell that's basically just his normal "attack"
>>733800968>Developer constantly looking up viable strategies and nerfing them into the ground so that their game is a sovlslike experience for true sovlslike gamers like you and IEven gayer than stealth increases to difficulties
>>733800668If you wanna use Mage, don't be like me and avoid Forbidden spells.It took me 60 hours to realize they're the main reason to use the class aside from mana share. Fulmination means you automatically win.
>>733800438give fighter to the best cat, they need to be bulky, have good movement and do high enough damage to kill everything in a hit or two with a weapon or they will be a bit of a let down
>>733800668Unlike druid, psychic, necro, and tinkerer, it's ACTUALLY a coin-flip whether it's shit or not.
>end day>Gato got on with Izanami and made a kitten>nice>end day>Rick got on with Izanami and made two kittens>good I guess>end day>another cat got with that slutFUCK ANOTHER ONE OF THE FEMALE CATS ALREADY INSTEAD OF THAT SLUT I'M TRYING TO AVOID TURBO INBREEDING HEREIs there actually something that affects which cat others prefer to get on with or am I just getting some odd RNG?
>>733800668low mobility and needs rangeboosting gear, also stuns from lightning bolt are redundant since every boss acts multiple times in a round
ive been having such horrible anti synergy runs lately.maybe cause i was trying to make the junky shit like Tinkerer and Psychic work.but im talking ZERO synergy. literally random mush or abilities hoping to get their relevant passive or item but getting nothing.literally just end runs with cats who basically just do 5 damage and end turn with no combo.
>spoil yourself on every mechanic and interaction>bring hard counters with encyclopedic knowledge gained from streamers and these constant threads>"THIS GAME IS EASY, HOW ARE YOU WIPING?"We need a mass extinction event. Humanity peaked long ago.
This skill is a bit dangerous due to the reposition but it has some disgusting synergy I wasn't aware of.I ran Jester because I needed the unlocks, was doing the quest where your events all go badly. Jester had Magic Missile Bred onto him and Savant Syndrome. I gave him the fixed stopwatch (take an AI turn) because I thought "hey he can't fuck that up with any rolls".His starting skill was find a rock. Imagine my shock when on his AI turn rather than unleash 9 magic missiles he just wanders towards the enemy and builds himself into a little rock fort. Wouldn't even cast magic missile with mana to spare.His trait level comes up and Pet Rocks is on offer. I figure we will let the clown do as he wishes, he also has the eye mutation that cause rocks to spawn when damaged.Now Fatman also has rocksong, the one the crater boss and house boss use against you that levitates all rocks on the map and causes them to fly towards enemies who walk adjacent (also quite dangerous as they do so without respect to obstacles, by which I mean your cats). Now these are all tank abilities so the synergy is inherent, but when a pet rock smacks into an unit for any reason, it counts as that unit damaging the pet rock - which procs bouncer. Which has knockback. Which can proc rock song, which can proc counter...One fairly major downside is that it doesn't discriminate - if you smack a friendly pet rock, or one smashes you, Fatman would also gun for your asshole, so the other units pretty much have to hug the side/corners of the map while Fatman goes chasing down abused rocks, but the King's second phase essentially went like that, he jumps, a rock hits him, Fatman hits him, he jumps, and he dies.
>733801663Enough Aquajeet, you spammed enough last thread.
>At 99% completion>Everything else seems to be Hard+ mode achievementsNah, I think I'm good. I'll come back after some rebalancing/more mods get made.
>Isaac threads used to just be full of people being proud of cheating>Now the same is true for MewgenicsKinda embarrassing to be begging for people to congratulate you on how based you are for cheating
>>733801527>tinkerer>not a coin flipLol
>>733801343>you actually get to control the bird cause he doesn't have the steve passive on himOh that's make sense
>>733799390Just kill it from the task manager bro
So do all the gimmick classes outside of cleric suck?Cleric isn't that good either but his utility outweighs his uselessness in combat.
keep forgetting hamster style upgrade turns your cat into a midget
here's his mewcathttps://files.catbox.moe/beq5bf.mewcat
>>733801920What do you consider gimmick classes
>>733801920What do you consider a gimmick class?
>>733801920>Cleric isn't that good either???
>>733801945>>733801965Everything you don't get at the start.
>>733801941>.mewcat
>>733801663It's not a particularly difficult game until act 3
>>733801920every class is good when I play themtry working on that?
>>733801898It remembers that.
>>733798236I refuse to play this shilled game
>>733801994No.Ranger is the best class but most of the unlocks are good.Tinkerer is luckshit unless you breed blacksmith onto it.
>>733801994Yes, Monk, Psychic, and Butcher are all very good.
>born with ping + 6she was just born and i can already see her becoming a legend like her mother
>>733802084Fuck the survivalist hunter passive, that is NOT useful
>>733799823I noticed that this game punishes one bad move by letting you wipe. I've had more than one instance of wiping then scumming to the map and when I try again, avoiding the move that killed me then it can be a complete 180. The AI is really weird. It seems smart, but all of its moves are predetermined. I think every room is winnable in some way when you strat your run seed unless the game decides you need to lose and will attempt to hard counter your setup which is just another challenge layer. That's why I tell people to learn to use every single thing on the field. Even 1 extra point of damage can completely turn a battle around
Are you treating your cats well, /v/?
>>733802159There has to be some junk in the pool, you already can get a free win with very easy to assemble ranger combos
>YOUR CAT GOT PTSDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI HATE THESE EVENTS>>733798375I honestly only save scum if I'm doing a quest and it's the final "boss"fuck this game's quest mechanics.
>>733802084Tech should not be a mechanic you have to luck into, I don't know what the fuck Edmund was thinking. "Yes, I would absolutely like to spend my turn crafting a stick because I'm stuck at Tech 0" <= statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
I'm honestly not sure which is the best between Hunter and Thief. To me it feels like Hunter has slightly better lows than Thief but Thief has slightly better highs than Hunter
>>733798858crashes, alt+f4, etc don't count. If you need to quit the game mid battle DO NOT use the menu, just force it closed.
>>733802374Alt+f4 absolutely does cause Steven to show up.
...are these not identical?
>>733800501Of course homosexuals would ship a murderous lunatic who shoots children (kittens) and a guy who shits himself while inebriated.It's basically the modern tranny grindset,
>your cat got cancer
I wonder how long until xhe gets tired of this gimmick.Deleting a third worlder's threads truly damages their mind.
>the difficulty in this game comes from elite enemies getting four turns in a round and being able to apply stun on hitlmao
>>733800668>Russian Roulette works with Angel wing>Zenkai BoostHe will become the strongest collarless by the end of this alley run.
>>733802464>in an area
>>733802464The upgraded version targets an area, so no, they are not identical. You can potentially hit up to 4 additional targets.
>>733802464The upgrade is an area move.
>>733800668Mage has a lot of bloat that is only useful in specific situations, and a reasonably high probability of starting with a shitty spell.They have a shitty attack that needs line of sight and requires you to get into retaliation range to use but does fuck all damage and has the worst scaling of all the pure damage basic actions (bar maybe Monk?) because of the magic damage gimmick which rarely comes into play.A lot of their traits rely on other abilities rolling which are odds against to be available and even when they are the synergy is still not that good, being able to damage frozen enemies isn't that attractive when it requires you to have the trait that lets you do it, the spell that lets you freeze and then something to actually do damage after that, because your team can't do it, creating fire everywhere is punishing to positioning which is far more important to you than the enemy. They have elemental effects and AoE, but for 95% of enemies straight up killing them is preferable to doing some elemental nonsense, and the AoE is more likely to hinder your ability to hit the ones that do warrant it because your melee attackers are more likely to be in range of an enemy than another enemy is. These factors also contribute to exorbitant mana costs for the abilities, where you can expect an exchange of ~0.5 damage per mana for a lot of them. Lightning is probably the purest element that doesn't fuck over your team, but is completely unreliable - you can't guarantee a stun and therefore can't plan around a stun, you have to react to it.They're overly specialised, overly situational, and the least reliable class, and one of the worst classes when they don't get their rolls with their piss poor basics. Both their trait and spell collection is bloated with crap (2 and 4 are ridiculously obtuse for very little gain) and seem geared around theoretical 7 round battles when most end in 2 or 3. They highroll well, but not often without dices, maybe even with.
>>733802529>>733802551>>733802582thank you certified readers
>>733802084>Ranger is the best classOH MY DAYS
>>733802415I just don't want to be punished for having to urgently do something else and quitting when I have no intention to save scum. I cant quit any more or else I get punished. How should I quit the game next time? I literally forget everything that happened the next time I get a chance to pick the game up again
>>733801994Druid is becoming one of my favorite classes
Bumblefoot almost ended my core run, holy fucking cancer. Moves first, damages everyone, gets countered, damages everyone again, and only one cat has a turn when he's not flipped.Had to restart this fight two times, had to just bruteforce him eating all the damage
>>733801812>Kinda embarrassing to be begging for people to congratulate you on how based you are for cheatingWhy would I beg for congratulations?I already got my reward by cheating, what else am I supposed to get?Your kudos aren't as meaningful as you think they are you stupid cunt, because in the next thread you or I will probably make a post that I or you will agree with and we'll be sucking each other's dicks for being so smart.Do you not know how being anonymous works?We've probably huffed each other's farts before.
>carnibulbs spawn stuck in the cornersSimply eric
>>733798236Here it is, the most powerful combo in the game
>>733802608I wish mage had their teleport spell be able to teleport anything, allies, corpses, enemies, objects etc
>>733801343>stack up 4 druids>piss off Steve until he controls your cat>roleplay as a team of birds with cat familiars
>>733802705how
>don't worry everyone, I'll use my fearsome psychic abilities to make short work of thes-->w-wait, is t-that... CORPSE OF A GRUB BLOCKING MY LINE OF SIGHT????>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
>>733802616Do you have to quit the game? Leave it open and do whatever you need to do.
>>733802653I only played one run but it seems to specialize in creating shitty units for you to micro that die in 1 hit.
>>733802582>>733802551>>733802529a 1x1 area is still an area. without them specifying how big the area is, i have to assume that they're the same ability
>>733802608>>733802712>But, But, muh Magic Missile Autism Cat -Egg McMuffin
>>733802820Kill an eagle for the sniper.I don't remember how I got the orb but it made the sniper infinite use for that run and helped me unlock the final level. I also got hone so i repaired that sniper up to 9 uses (max), i'm saving the sniper for the 4 collarless cat run
>Split the Atom psychic>Win every regular fight without movingBit of a laff
>100+ hours in>Finally maxed out Tink
>>733802213>I think every room is winnable in some way when you strat your runnot really, the game doesn't calculate a win condition before creating a board. try starting a solo run with negative stats on hp, movement, charisma, intelligence and luck and no item as a mage. it will still throw you the same shit a 4 cat run would
act 3 difficulty is overblownmany item quests are harder
>>733802839>Psychic is immune to cat calling
>>733802991I did that fairly quickly.My many inbred kittens needs a home.
>>733803004>boss that gives you concussion on hit>overblown
>"a pipe is added to your inventory">it actually isn't
>>733803004It's all frontloaded, lab has some killer rooms full of bracing retards and parasite spitters which can roll against a level 1 crew. Once you get past that the next areas aren't very bad at all.
>One of my cats gets the bleeding eyes mutation in the sewers
>>733803192Kill them off if you have to
>>733803004Most of Act 3 is fine but the enemies in the Infinite are pure horseshit. Which is fine since it's the finale, but damn are they annoying.
>>733801989>speed penalty>low offense compared to other classes>50% of its value is passing cleanse and other abilities to other classes so you can use other classes that can help you actually kill things faster hence getting you better lootCleric is a solid B. Training wheels class. Druid heals better and can improve your entire parties offense from turn 1, psychic has an extremely important utility that cleric can't match, butcher and tank can self sustain AND deal damage. Cleric can feel like a wasted slot if you're not taking a lot of damage
I find mama maggot more annoying than big slime desu
tina sexo!
why is everything this guy gets so ass...
>pick shimmer>oh everyone has random buffs and debuffs>but something feels off...>check my cats>they are all freaksThat's pretty awesome but fuck this run, my tank had body guard and a shitload of knockback, anytime my cleric healed he wanted to throw down with the cleric so i just stopped healing
>>733803325The problem is the class you picked.
>>733803265I agree Druid is better but Cleric has access to some insane spells/passives (Cleanse, Haste, all the Alpha spells, Thou Shalt Not Kill) that can really push your team over the edge.Or just breed a Druid with the Cleric's passive that makes your basic attack cleanse and get the Druid passive that refreshes your basic attack when you use a music spell and you'll have the strongest healer/support in the entire game.
>>733803353the end of each combat with shimmer weather, every cat gets a mutation
>>733802613it objectively is
>>733803353That arm mutation is great but not on cleric lol
>>733803369yeah thats what i meant. tinkerer feels a bit too unreliable. i have an item that negates damage on allies, shockwave could have been really strong with it. but then i'd have to bring the item and just pray for rng.
Reactive armor and an empty weapon slot paired with rocket shoes is really fun, fucking ram your cat into enemies, use the weapon, throw it, and repeat
>>733803439>I have that passive and inspirational song in my house right nowTime to get to humpin
>>733803502the entire team got to retire into the fuck room, even the retard tanktime to never see it passed on
>>733803286Depending on how easy it is to mod this game I wonder how long until someone makes a playable Tina mod.And how likely will it be a real vorefag that completely erases the Hard Vore elements
>>733803439>just get two passives broAt that point you are better off running something to repeat a cat's entire turn indefinitely
How do I break Split The Atom? I was offered it but the other options don't look too good (robo va, spawn decoy, blow)
does increasing the speed make the game harder? like does it spawn harder enemies or more?i feel like it does
>>733803728There's several ways to get multiple attacks on a druid. You don't even need a passive. Druid is a fantastic class.
>mfw i get unrestricted with persuasion devicetime to create an army
>>733803729The upgraded version fuels the cost automatically without having to dump your mana into it
>Fish Hook + Homerun on Tank
>>733801446Yeah, most of them are about as close to "auto-win" as you can get for a lot of encounters (some bosses included).
>>733803871Add Ass Blast to that
>>733803723>you now remember the isaac cockvore mod
>Maestro and Death Metal+The Druid is fucking insane
>>733803004i never wiped on act 3 besides on the lab, das fûture/the end and ice age/jurassic are pretty easy
Tossing around the hot stone for the moon quest is fun I wish more of the items were like that
>>733800250The cat in the mouth has special command to make the hands hit the face. It's easier and faster than manually rotate and launch the hands so if you have high HP cat, let the moon face eat it
>>733803967I'm still trying to get Hunter's Boon and Death Metal into my eugenics program
>cleric learns minihook>ranger has catch! passive>cleric turns ranger into a machine gun
>testing a radio mod>comfy browsing /v/ after work while listening to the ingame radio, waiting to hear one of the files I addedThere are some good tracks exclusive to chilling at your house. Didn't know that.
>>733803723i'd make that with the hard vore but i can't code for shit
>>733803967got this combo once, it was funny as shit
>You are in a situation where doing damage produces equally amount of damage for the attacker
>>733798858cheevoplebs on suicide watch.
>>733800438Cleric, frontliner, someone who can attack ffom range and a trick dude. Once you get kittens with collar skills and mutations, mix and match and see if there's sybergy
i hate inventory management, i doin't know what to keep
>>733798487No there isn't.
>>733804068>not having two rangers, one which learns the five shot skill just to dump bonus attacks on the ranger with catchNever gonna make it
I'm 10 hours in and not having a great time. It's a well enough put together game and I love the music but I don't have much desire to continue. Is there any reason to think that something'll change or can I safely say it's just not for me.
>>733804298Give Butch some cats dawgToss the bird seeds and keep the prevent injury item for later
>>733804380It clicks when you get more unlocks.Also you can back-up your save file if you wanna cheat.
>>733804298send cats to Butch asap
>>733804380It's fine if you don't have the itchIt's not a genre for everyone
how do i start breeding to pass down passives / active skills
>>733804380if you don't like tactics game then you don't like tactics game
how to do 4 collarless runs, this is just item runs
>>733804485high stimulation, tink's upgrades will help you with specific details
>>733804485Until you have a decent amount of stimulation furniture, don't worry about it
>>733804485Start by having 95+ stimulation
>got my first blood frenzy off of a random eventi love this game but random events ruining your run for the lulz has to be the absolute worst part.it would be cool if it was designed in a way that even if your cats get crippled you can play around it, but the shit you get is too game ruining. it doesn't feel like it's tied to luck either.
>>733804485>passivesbreed a lotA LOT>skillsbreed a lot>both parents have the skill/passivebreed a lot, less of a lot but a lot
>>733804298Keep both the poop items, you're very close to a full set
I had like 6 kittens born last night and all of the ones with good inherited stats turned out gaythis is the best cat I've bred thus far
>>733804532unlock "way of the/path of the" skills
>>733804532Go do act 2 before worrying about quad collarless, you unlock skills/passives to buff collarless cats a lot.
>>733804485You need furniture that raises stimulation. Hard routes guarantee furniture boxes afteeör Alley and Desert. Also donate injured cats to the furniture seller kid fir better and larger weekly selection. Have one room with negative comfort so the cats will fight and cause injuries on each other
>>733798236>Savescumming is LE BADYeah well nigger YOU made the desert and the crater so you can gargle on my cum
why do people only have 1 couple in breeding room, cant you just match them up so they love eachother then put multiple couples in there
>>733804571Blood frenzy is an instant win disorder. Are you stupid?
>>733804571When you want to do a mark, first do a doomed run. The next run will have more success because of the weight the unfortunate run hives
>>733804532they got some of the most OP skills and passives in the sea of shitlook out for anything that gives you extra turns and passives to repeat one time per battle skills/item use
>>733804605I see you have the same issue I do where you're stuck with Luck 4 breeding results.A stray is bound to come with a 6 at least, right?
does jetpack, shadowstep, or teleport work with gigantism
>>733804750>Unlock crater after the fucking diarrhea that the desert was>ew what the fuck is this fucking dogshit>Unlock moon>Holy fucking shit this is worseNow I know why I have seen a total of 0 streamers go up after unlocking monk
>Get Blood gyser on necro>Just makes a little splash of red appear on a tile instead of blasting a blood beamIcon fucking lied to me, i expected brimstone
>>733804707I've noticed the Crater doesn't and it only seems to be for the small meteors that always kind of suck, the second half has a extra fight on hard though so it's good for leveling
>>733804760yes, until one decides to fight your breeding cat and kill it
>>733804380whats lacking? if it´s success then tactics game might either not be for you or you should start read carefully every skill and think about possible synergies. If you generally do not like the random factor and doing the best out of seemingly impossible situation, then this game is also not for you. If you get attached to the cats, you already not suited for this game.
>>733804859I've got two females with 7 in luck but one of them is already in love with another cat so they probably won't pair, right?
>>733804961Yeah go Bunker route because that has a chance of giving RARE furniture boxes
nicethat wasn't bad at all. I saw people doom posting about it but I just brought int classes and mashed buttons
these fucking suck, man.binge I guess then I can offload on some stationary bosses.
Just beat Hard mode Tina. I hope you like fire
Do you need to do another save file if you want the other kaiju to win?
Rare candy might as well be an autobuy
>>733805094eat and drowsy are good
>>733805038if the other cat is not in love she can pair with that, charisma from the other cat helps with that
>>733805136No shit?
>>733805094swallow vs shields is great
Goddamn, being able to summon 4 squirrels, then one extra every round, boost their damage cumulatively every round, and have all of them get +2 stats is fucking awesome.
>>733805228not in love with any other cat*
>>733800668My God tier runs were both with 2 mages.
Should I immediately get rid of inbred cats?
Does moon hard give furniture?
When will people realise that items are more important than how you breed your cats. As long as you pick one that’s good enough for the role, you can win
>>733798236Morana is legit harder than all the desert bosses and minibosses combined.>destroy all corpses>can reanimate already pretty song enemies>leach can get out of hand and outheal DPS>if any of you get downed thats a forever dead catKinda fucking insane for a miniboss.Especially when the other minibosses are>just dont melee her lol>just reroll the dice lol>just waste his bullets lol
Idea I had for a location the other day: the Mall.>overworld map is fashioned like those mall maps with it showing "You Are Here" marker wherever your party happens to be>map gimmicks are travelators that move your cats/enemies around if you stand on them and all food pickups being cooked/at least medium size>enemies: rats, hobos, janitorial staff (they can use spray bottles to inflict fear cause cats) and maybe zombies>location's ost is, obviously, muzak-inspired>the end boss is basically Steven from Dead Rising that tries to run your cats over with his shopping cart; the gimmick with him is that the cart has separate health pool and you can attack it to lighten the load, reducing damage, but also speeding the boss upEdmund probably already has a solid idea of what he's gonna put in the future dlc, but maybe we might see something like that after the mod support comes out.
>>733805332This but they fucking explode at the end
>bunker and the general status of boon county implies some sort of armaggedon happened, not to mention the complete dominance of cat-based life>but all the lights are on, society is functioning to the point that Tracy works for a chain store, and BoI is a prequel to that game and isaac clearly lived in contemporary timesI know it's absolutely not important at all but the world of Mewgenics confuses me a little
>>733805434False!I have never upgraded my storage and just beat Act 1 on Crazy difficulty
>>733805268A lot of shit actually, it's an Ed game
>>733805530the bunker isn't like that because of nuclear war, it's like that because Dr. Beanies dumped all his failed experiments in it
>>733805413you can have them breed with a stray to fix your bloodline
>>733805463My opinion is that literally every Desert mid-boss besides Gein is absolute aids-cancer.
>>733805413depends on their stats, you can fix them rather quickly without losing their stats through breeding. if they are average then sure get rid of them. your standards should be higher for inbred cats when deciding to cull compared to non inbred. to completely fix the inbreeding that will take two rooms though
>>733805413You can just introduce strays for thr next generation. New blood negates inbred
>>733804903Moon is extremely comfy
>>733805434when 20+ stat cats are not a thing alongside some op mutations + skills + passives.if you don't enjoy breeding, don't. if you do, do.
psychosis is bullshit
Was Jurassic supposed to be easier than every other level? The enemies don't even do anything special.
>>733805646this, i thought it would be obvious to gorilla-san
>>733805918With bad weather conditions the boss can be deadly but it honestly feels like melee users eat shit in act 3 as a whole, doing a mostly melee run of the mother or dino is far more painful
>>733805654Is that the butcher because i fucking agreeI smile every time i see him
>ignore demon altar on desert>next event gives my monk with ONE PUNCH blood frenzythis can't be good
>blood frenzy on my butcher from a random event that gave me no choicethis game is fucking garbage, man.
>>733805413if their stats are good despite one or two bad mutations you can do a run with them and just donate to butch or frank after
>>733799905My hero Mauler had this on his first necro run on the third mewgenics stream on the MAULER channel btw
>>733806330no ur just bad actually and a nigger!
>>733806325>>733806330>two runs simultaneously raped by blood frenzya bad omen
>not utilizing blood frenzy to kill everything 1st turnImagine being this bad.
Just unlocked the final boss, what am I in for?
>>733806495Put a nice little bow on top
>>733806487I am old enough now to admit that this image is actually a little cool.
>mage is ba-
>>733806575Mage is busted with the right combination, passing magnify onto a ranger is devastating
>>733804571Blood Frenzy you can work around if you're careful. Now THIS is some horseshit if it lands on the wrong cat.
I feel like you should have high health and no poop in the cat fight room, especially once you get the idol of chaos. That is, if you have an absolute breeding factory in the attic and can just throw all the rejects in there so it has -60 comfort anyway. Could make some pretty fucking brutal kitties if they're healing any injuries, anything that survives 10-15 days in there could be stacked and you can pull it out for quest runs etc.I say this as I've seen people recommend it be pooped and so on to spur fights. I know Jack is a consideration, and an important one, but you'll still get a respectable amount of cats for Jack as not all injuries will be healed.
>>733806575waow
>charms a unit every turn>gets 3 turns a round>either she charms 3 of my 4 cats every round or has enough movement to cover the entire map no matter how hard I kiteI haven't even moved yet and I know I'm just fucked
>>733806575
japanese ascii cat
>>733806768i think she only charms on her first turn each round
>>733806575>33333woahhh
>>733806668haha fighter goes brrrr
What combination of skills do I need to get to make thief good?
>>733806575>I got lucky buildsYa, we know. I've also gotten mages that are totally ineffectual and have shit like firewall.
>>733806575Mage is just as feast or famine as any of the other classes. Anyone saying mage is bad when thief and tinker are in the same position is an idiot.
cancer sidequest>weather turns windyliterally impossible to win
>>733806575>beastly game-breaking combo mage is worse than the average hunter who just presses scatter shot and deals 60 damage to the boss with 0 setupgrim
>>733806932Crit, backstab and stat(bleed/poison) builds
>>733806932Crits on backstabs and teleport won me like 3 runs, I should check on thief again
>>733806932Passive that refreshes your movement every time you pick up a coin + coin toss
is licking the orb just a useless sacrifice like the other ones (without the item)? or is it something else
>>733806975Don't brace items fix this? I'd really like to know since that's my plan
>>733806575I sure hope you went to the Core with this cat because you could have showcased it doing a lot more impressive shit then a mage that takes agonizingly long to end its turn
>>733806968Tinker, yes. Thief, mixed. Tinker has some downright antifeature passives as well. It's a real shit class in many cases.
Is wish bone particularly useful for anything other than a crit combo?
>>733806932You can make a broken thief if you get the right coin skills: Picking up coins enabling you to move again, while either boosting you or spawning new coins.With enough movement you can keep running around the field boosting your stats while getting rich.
>>733806975can't you just slap this on a Ranger or something
>>733806575>not a teach+ mage making all your spells cost 1>then making everyone else's spells cost 1lol. lmao. No wonder people think mage is shit, if a 30 damage payoff is webm worth
>>733807131thief has a skill that pops a corpse into coins and rarely an itemcould use it to farm item drops
>>733806932Extra move from picking up money and money proccing. Critical and backstab abilities. 3way knife throw. Armor bypassing.
holy moly
>>733801812this is a roguelike, sir
>>733807131Does luck effect bird drops?
>>733806932Pierce destroys most of act 2
>>733807085(me)talking about the act 3 stuff.
>>733807131https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF7Ub1Z-LZgthe simplest use case is probably bypassing miss chance
>>733806575Very ethical build, don't let the exploiters say otherwiseEdmund would be proud
>>733806968I think thief and tinker are equally bad.Fighter, ranger, tank, cleric, psychic (just for utility), butcher and monk can still scrabble together a build even with the worst offerings of skills. Hell, fighter and ranger and butcher can win through basic attacks if all else fails.
>>733807240Most disgusting perk in the game, Normie cats are broke
>>733806975This item is total ass but it at the same time it can kill all bosses 1st turn.
>>733807137What about doing damage?
>>733806932You don't need crazy combinations, just an extra source of movement(rebound, extra moves, teleports, the extra range basic attack passive that penetrates since it can make up for the lack movement, over here over there, skin disguise, shadowstep in areas with obstacles, teleport to coin skills) and an extra source of damage(guaranteed backstab crits, extra damage on melee hits, boost extra backstab damage, the refresh attack skill, the backstabs hit twice passive, double damage crits, the throw coin skill + some passive for extra coins) makes thief beastly, it's very rare not to find one of each in a runYou simply need to stop playing Thief like a warrior, you need to plan their turn so they don't end up surrounded by enemies they failed to kill and he dies
>>733807350Play thief more. Easily one of the best classes in the game and can be a ranger swap on at least 3 paths
I’m going to be honest, the 4 cat run required to unlock the copycat items isn’t even that bad of a challenge
>>733806932a single movement skill and high speeda backstab skill/passive helps too
>>733807350Thief is fucking amazing, you can farm 99 coins in the first area easily and just repeat
>>733806932one movement skill is a must + at least one damage skill + one shield piercing skill or passive + one/two items to help him survive and the rest of items can be for luck. they are pretty solid, often finding the time to pick coins while doing their job is really nice to speed up furniture buying
Just give mage more intelligence and charisma as starting stats and the class is saved.
mage is good if you just get any passive/equipment that turns off friendly fire and let that meteor storm+ rip.
>>733806968No fucking way is thief as bad.Thief's man issue is low con, once you're rolling 7+ natty he's one of the more reliable damage dealers with many, many efficient spells and traits.
Just beaten crater today, gonna do bunker next. What classes are good here? I've seen anons post robots so I'm thinking necro for low health execute and thief for pierce.
>>733798236>not savescumming in roguelikes ISHYGDDT
>>733807460I suppose my luck has been bad. Ranger I can easily get to a crit machine, or a no-miss abusing the skills with a chance to miss, or even something stupid like scatter shot + rubber arrows.Just haven't been able to get thief to anything beyond "weaker crit class with mobility
>>733807495I'm not looking forward to it in Act 3
>>733807587Yes. Basically that's it.
>>733807415You'll end up with a thief with incredibly boosted stats. You'll do a lot of damage.Of course, if you've got a good damage skill that takes advantage of stats it's even better.
>>733806968thief is consistentthe casters are the inconsistent onespsychic a little less because global damage and repositioning is always useful
>>733805094why is caseoh a class
>>733806968>Mage is just as feast or famine as any of the other classes.tank and butcher aren't feast or famine at all and in fact butcher's spells are mostly terrible
>>733807113at the core right now. the level up only gave me shit non-damaging spells. oh well
>>733806968Thief at a bare minimum can take one of their 20 movement skills to zip in, crit one thing, and walk out. Which is basically what their best builds are doing too but doing it harderMage kinda struggles without external support or inherited skills. Had a good run where I started with fuckall but leveled up into Thunderburst and another cat had the garden hose but that's still just luck of the draw.
>>733798236But why would I need to when the game is so easy? Stack mutations my friend.
>>733807106you will always take at least one damage from any attack no matter the brace
>placed both of the antennas >haven't opened up act 2's final zonethis stupid obsidian rock is such a pain to charge up
>>733807738filthy mutiesinshallah tina devours them all
>>733807645There are ways around it, the hard mode in the lab gives free moves so getting a few decent ones then creating a fake role a with items seems like a good strat
>>733807587All classes are good but do bring both melee and range. Knockback helps with the boss because the boss gets attacks if its minions are in certain tiles next to it. Oh yeah and the cultists light a bomb near death so if you want to avoid damage, knockback is good for that too
>>733807587A quick hint regarding the area after bunker: Avoid skills that does fire damage. So many units are immune to it.
>>733807804Bring it to Act 1The threshold for kills goes up with the charges so you'll just OHKO things for 10 charges. Stick it in a Thief's pocket for a run.I only just got the Act 2 final zone unlocked myself but I kept getting screwed on the hot potato runs and left it alone for a while.
>>733806768well nevermind after some dancing she charmed my cleric and then my fighter who until now had never even attacked a single enemy in the run so far got behind her and hit her with double fury swipes and put her down to just 10 HP in a single turn, after which my hunter finished her off
>>733807587just a heads up, not only are robots immune to electric damage but it actually gives them an extra turnon the other hand they have all shield and no HP so spells that bypass shield will instakill them
>>733806768Her 3 turns are like>Charm>Attack>+1 Holy Shield
aside from pink bow and finishing the whole game without "save scumming", is there anything else that you have to do that has point-of-no-return conditions? the beanie side quests returns the weapons you destroy back to the quest pool at least apparently
>>733807636The mobility is what makes the class goodTheir damage is lowered because they can just walk behind the enemy from half the map away, backstab for 25% extra damager, plus twice the damage on crit with most of their skills piercing armor (and they crit really often/basically all the time if you get one of their many crit rate buffs/a crit rate boosting item) and when they are done they can walk/teleport to the other edge of the map where enemies won't be able to reach themAs an extra bonus, their luck affects the shop and your item rewards.It's a good class that rarely feels bad to use.
Waiting for Base 7 all stats mod so I can focus only on mutations for the breeding. I hate breeding.
>>733808078Split collar unlocks for the kaiju fight
Does stimulation negate birth defects at a certain threshold?
>>733805136It should be like 2 cents more because of how good it is. Also it should let you buy a second one for double price.
Does anyone else cut their pubes with a pair of craft scissors when they get too long otherwise they get ingrown hairsAlso anyone else refuse to start act 3 till they get their all 7s kot
>>733807636They do need a lot of high stats or items to function, the best thing for thief is getting to the enemies one round earlier than everyone in your team. but needing good stats is like every front line
>>733807804i got it to like 15 in a single act 1 run and then finished it + used it in a single act 2 run
>>733806404that might be true, but raping my butcher was still not ok.
>>733808078>finishing the whole game without "save scumming"What does this do?
>>733808176No, let your cats fuck some strays in your high stimulation room and mostly the good stats will be inherited anyways
That 10% chance to cancel your action debuff is a fucking run ender
>>733807804I got most of the early charges by sucking up flies from Butcher's rot
>>733806575the average exert fighter with front crit would like to have a boxing match with you
>>733808282Not if your cat has high luck.
This horrifying motherfucker just entered a blood rage and farmed Stevens and the rest of my team for damage before punching soahc for 148 damage per punch and he could reload holy fuck!
>>733802058Use "Kill process tree" instead of "kill process."t. cheater
>>733808253Nothing
>>733808329I suppose my kitter did not have high luck then
>>733806575>SurfYeah no shit you got one of their few good spells
if a tinkerer has blood frenzy and it has a catbot, does the catbot killing a unit trigger the frenzy?
>>733802327just sucks when an expedition takes forever and you can get royally fucked over at any moment because of RNG with no recourse whatsoever. that doesn't make me excited to play the game
>>733808429No
I altf4 or whatever once in a blue moon. Today I did because my hunter double crit my necro holding Tina 2s quest item after I used the 1 damage to all skill and various interactions I hadnt planned for. She had 36hp and it wiped it out instantly, and I just got to boneyard they hadn't even come online yet with a good passive. I just didnt expect to get rng fucked like that with 2 crits.
>>733802058You probably need to kill it without giving it a chance to handle it. Idk what the equivalent of SIGKILL in Windows is, but do that.
>>733806932i've had 4 seperate thieves run some form of corpse coin farming with the one passive that has half a chance to gain another coin and half to gain luck and speed, with the other passive being the 6+ rangealso, i HATE the 99 coin cap, is there something that raises the cap like deep pockets in isaac?
>>733808429Only intentional kills and collision damage count as "your" kills
>>733808253Shitpost.It doesn't do anything
>>733808554>99 coin capwtf chat is this real?
>>733807636he's good for farming coins and retireds
>>733798858hey "cheevo" guy, kys.
>>733808710>poorfag doesn't know
>>733808710Fraud so. That being said, act 2 will always give you 100 coins bag item if you do all hard routes
>>733799292>PicMade for human men
>>733808346It's quicker to alt-tab, make a copy and rename it.
Not entirely sure I understood the hitler mechanics correctly, does he get anything from killing his clones? It said he raises an army so I assumed killing adds off would be a priority but he kinda finishes them off by himself.
>>733799921almost every single game in the world has this, stupid petty retard.
>>733808710You can only carry 99 cents during a run, plus coin bags you bring homeRare candies are so cheap there's no reason not to buy any half decent items in the store on the way since you'll probably hit the money cap otherwise. Even if you end up throwing most of them out before hitting next day.
>search reddit for once>"mutually exclusive achievements"why do indie devs get away with doing this
>>733799921>dynamic difficulty is bad!!!!!!!!reddit opinion
>>733808882Anyone dumb enough to care about achievements deserves it
can you get the other kaiju collar from rematches?
>>733808882torturing cheevo hunters is a moral imperative
>>733800438follow the same rules as isaac. pick things that are good for your current build and try to build synergies.
>>733800668Mage has like five good spells and three good passives out of their entire pool
>>733808882It's only one and honestly you can rush act 1/2 pretty fast if you care.
>be in act 2>get squirrel form for my druid>get +10 health passive for all familiars/squirrels>give him some item that creates a shadow form that mimics his basic ability>create two to three 11 health squirrels and give all squirrels +4 damage and movement every turn>druid carries the run and beat moon man for the first timeMy favourite druid so far and cemented druid as my favourite class
>>733805094Isn't Swallow an instant kill? What's so bad about that one.
>>733808196>best thing for thief is getting to the enemies one round earlier than everyone in your team.See i find doing this just gets that cat killed
Am I crazy or does this opener look like the Toms raped and killed the Catcaller?
>>733805094Binge is insane if you have debuff clear.
>>733804571>>733806668yeah nevermind, i made it past the core even with a tinkerer with blood frenzy. i guess i got lucky cus it wasn't so consequential. Good game
>>733809239You need a movement spell or passive as well.
>the butthurt neckbeard actually coded his game so that when the process receives a termination order from the OS, the first thing it does is write the save fileIt's trivial to circumvent but still funny.
>>733805463Anon, the game doesn't tell you this, but there's a range to the resurrection.If you get the cat far away from bodies when you kill it, it just dies.I think it's range, anyways, I've beaten him a bunch of times and he just doesn't resurrect. Neither on the bodies of enemies lying around or on cats. Maybe it's down to luck?Anyways, I agree with you, easily the worst possible boss in the desert. And the minibosses are harder than the bosses in general (Other than the butcher)
>>733809353Incredibly based.
>>733806575even collarless cats are better than them if we take into account for how consistently bad they are compared to other classes compared to when they finally get some sinergy
>>733809316Why would you assume rape?
>first strike>swift looter>coin toss>rubber arrows from skill share>thief just runs around killing everything turn 1 with a ricocheting coin before the rest of my team can even actThis might be my favorite run so far
>>733807240>>733807359Wait until you see what the upgraded version of skill share does. You'll lose your shit.
>>733807787ENTER
>>733808782Specifically human men and disturbingly long petting sessions.
Exhaustion mechanic needs to be removed
Man... Guillatina would really disappointing. Both part 1 and 2 were a joke. At least p1 had the bullshit instakill thing.
>>733800392this but the brush your teeth song
>I've got four pairs of eyes~
>>733809489
>>733809516So, fucking, cool.... Holy fuck. Do sunglasses pair with it?
>>733799292How do I cheese this piece of shit. I'm not taking injuries or losing cats due to forced RNG.
>>733809681Don't be near her on her first turn in the roundThat's it
>>733809489how does rubber arrows work with Thief?
>>733809570stop doing solo necro runs you fucking emo
>>733809681Stuns and range
>>733809681I have never been beaten by her. Not once. What the fuck are you guys doing?
>>733809718Bounces but can be blocked by wallsMage's regular attack does the same shitIf you have the Rubber Cement accessory it's the same shit but with 1 less bounce range
>>733809491"it shares the upgraded version of your other passive, doesn't it?"
All these cats are dead, I missed out on beating Pyrophina vs Zaratana, I didnt prepare for it, just threw in some cats, and got raped. My cleric was shit at healing but good at buffing, and I wasnt able to sustain hp.Is it still possible to recruit either Pyrophina or Zaratana later? My current house boss is the Terminator whos on his way
>>733798236Man, I don't give a fuck. Don't give a bullshit mechanic that purposely ruins runs if theyre doing good. I just got Blood Frenzy on my fighter cat and it proceeded to solo my entire team. Go FUCK yourself Edmund
>>733809669It's part of both the Cool and Leather sets, yes
>>733809807NahIt's nutty meta shit.
>>733809916They come back
>>733809491>When breeding, your children will always inherit your other passive.What the fuck?
>>733809953let the fighter be the champion he was born to be you fucking faggot
>>733806975just combine with gun, easy
>>733810005Thanks dude
>>733809916They will come back eventually.
>>733809953Blood Frenzy on Fighter is a best case scenario dingus. He'll solo that run if you let him.
Apparently at some point I lost my scalding orb, is there a way to get it back or is that sidequest just fucked and I have to do the Core quest when the moon kaiju is defeated?
>couldn't kill him in 1 roundoh what shame I've brought to /v/
A TANGLED MESS INSIDE YOUR HEADA CRUSHING SENSE OF LOOMING DREAD
>>733809953Just throw him into middle of the enemies
>>733810126Wait, nevermind, I'm a - INT turbo retard and didn't see I already equipped it onto one of my cats
>>733810126Main quest items reappear in your bag infinitely if you fail or take it on the wrong route or whateverDr. Beanies sidequests can repeat
>Fountain of Youth critical success de-ages your cat>Oasis critical failure de-ages your cat???
>>733803325Roller skates and Catbot could work on your run
>>733803325II've made Shockwave work a few timesThe damage dropoff is pretty fast so it doesn't actually pose much threat to your other cats but still wipes out low HP enemies.
>Boss that moves when I attack>Another boss that moves when I attack>YET ANOTHER boss that moves when I attackI sure do love turn based combat
the perk of pirating this game is you can name the corpse collector "Nigger">>733809125which one is that?
>>733809398I had her not resurrecting as well and I have no idea what it comes down to
>>733803325the only anon that says tinkerer is good is an actual troll. Worst class in the game by far.
>>733810272Isn't this a dream come trueIsn't this a nightmare too
>>733810492The Kaiju collars are once per file.The refights don't give you the other one.
>>733803325that roller skates sounds good on a tank with high int and cha at least (every cat i have has high int and cha)just let him finish the starting area then have him get a baby with that skill and make it a tank
Do I pick Mech Suit?
People say that Tinkerer sucks without combos, but what ever are those combos?
>>733810690YeahIf the mech goes down the cat ejects downed and injured so just use the guns mostly.
>>733810706Any tech 3 weapon and hone
>>733810593>"official" wiki so far: you can just copy your savefile and rename it from shitfaggotnigger1.sav to shitfaggotnigger2.sav
>>733810690I'd go purifier+
>>733810690So is the D6 just a flat out buff item if it gives you + versions on lvl 2?
>>733810706
>>733810690SALUT
>>733810706Blacksmith and any good weapon, the passive that lets you use your weapon twice a turn is good tooTop Hat and the bomber passiveAny good weapon and a ToolboxCatbot+ Split the Atom+ Upgrade! with any other cat on your team that has minions.
>>733810690Holy weapon+ is godly when you have the right passives And actives. You don't though. I'd probably get the purifier+
tinkerer feels like a failed power fantasy, especially when you have the thief that goes>hehe look at all this money >:)and the fighter dialogue literally turns to mush when you have 0 int
>>733810103>>733810049He can only solo mobs. I had a great synergy going with the cleric that erases the Bruise 5 debuff that gets added on with his Beserk ability. If he kills his cleric, then the cat is fucked from bosses. My run is over
How's the game on deck
>>733810690Update: I picked Mech Suit and fucking clowned on the miniboss with it
>>733810915Having an infinite sniper rifle that murders everyone instantly is a power fantasy
>>733811040Based, Mechs are cool!
>>733810551Yes, especially when it happens on the third event out of a complete Act II run
>>733811040based mech enjoyer
>>733810915Tinkerer should have an innate passive to get 1 tech if it hits 20+ manait's infuriating to never be given an option to interact with the upgrades, especially with a d6Gunstick tinkerer is more reliable but you need a good gun
You should accept a loss sometimes because otherwise edmund fucks you in the ass and secretly bumps the difficulty up aka every battle is a slog with inflated health pool enemies.
>>733810706Either Blacksmith based with a weapon or v2.0 based with weapons or mechs. Allegedly has some explosive based combo but I've never seen it used to great effect.Example:v2.0+Robot ArmsRecycle+Can get permanent 3 tech for 2 mana on turn 1, then craft weapon gives you high tier guns/logs etc, which you can use twice, you can spend 5 mana to destroy the used weapon and then generate a new one you can use twice, so if you have just 10 Int (Low for Tink) you get 6 uses of the best weapons per turn.Catbot has a very similar loop that has less immediate damage but higher potential as you can theoretically get all weapon uses.
>>733811075Actually weak when it comes to bosses. You gotta have something better than just that. Like being able to share your weapons to your allies.
>Steakmund being a huge obnoxious faggot in a game where runs take forever to doEd is a hack fraud developer that does nothing but jerk his cock to lolcows, i hate him
>>733811287>Allegedly has some explosive based comboThere's a passive that makes Tech 0 and Tech 1 always craft bombsAnd that's it really you just play Bomberman and maybe give it a top hat if you had it as an inherited skill
I just wiped to an elite Punch Guy in the Throbbing Domain. No amount of savescumming would have saved me.
>>733811327Its not the insane levels of damage that fighter can do but it has infinite range and if boss has adds it can instantly murder them. 25 damage is still nice and you can use it from safe distance.
>>733811327>Like being able to share your weapons to your allies.Isn't there a tinkerer spell that lets you give weapons to allies? Am I misremembering?
>>733811327In fairness on that run I had with the sniper, it barely did shit against the mother, she’s extremely punishing to melee
>>733811446
>>733810521>has never had a stacked roombamancer making 4 roombas/turn that each spit out a food pickup end of turn, and grant an extra turn to next cat on deathnta, but your loss
>>733811529sure would be great if roombas showed up
>>733811510there is
>>733811287Oh, I'll add that this>v2.0+>Robot Arms>Recycle+Can be improved by 50% by breeding the Butcher passive "Hooked" onto a cat, which is just a better version of Robot Arms becaue it's balanced around the static butcher weapon.
So the early game is not giving a shit about any of the breeding mechanics and just doing runs of the first stages and donating cats?
>>733811638If you're in act 1 there's nothing relevant you can do with breeding yet.
>>733811278i just send out a throwaway solo cat and abandon adventure immediately when i feel like just breeding more sometimes
>>733803502>druid gets poison on basic attack
>>733811638pretty muchstimulation is the house stat that makes breeding do anything and you wont get any for a bitits kino to preserve your starters family line though
>>733811529Punchbots hard counter every single melee-only enemy in the game, it's funny to see.>>733811638You aren't gonna be able to reliably breed better cats until you get decent furniture so just take the best cats you luck into on runs and take the hard routes for more furniture boxes
>>733811638Yeah just do runs and amass wealth so you can buy cool swag for your house so the cats stop killing each other and actually start inheriting skills.
>>733811446what does wiping mean? is your team wiped or did your team wipe the entire adventure?
>>733811724I had to nuke my bloodline cause 99% of my cats had poison + fire on attack and I couldn't even attempt to use druids or tinkerers anymoreIf a Tinkerer has a passive like that they status themselves when you use Hone
>>733811372I've seen it, just not used to great effect.The fact that bombs are single use doesn't mesh too well with a lot of his kit and options for refreshing his basic action.Perhaps there's synergy with the electric bombs trait and robots, or the "equipment explodes on break" doubling the damage? Still seems like a fairly low roll potential compared to the others,
is there any item that DOESN'T get worn?or did each run just potentially promise it to you 3000 years ago?
>>733811823I think its just one of those skills thats nice for normal stages but it won't demolish a boss fightI do wish more AOEs could multi-hit big targets besides just Scattershot and Leech Swarm.
>>733811510yes, that is what i was nudging towards.>>733811486Yeah i know but one unit needs to do more than that and i wish i was joking. There are several spells and passives that could in theory allow of tons of Sniper Rifle uses. That is when gun only is viable, but it's also absurd overkill for something other classes can do much more easily while also getting tons of buffs.>>733811724>>733811815I once had a Druid with the Hunter passive that lets you spawn traps on empty tiles if you attacked them. Filled the entire screen with traps.
>>733811815Yeah those are a bit of a trap, thankfully I found a cat with 2 mouths that has 10% of reset their basic attack and with high luck it feels more like 80%.
>>733811882Tink's Bow I think, which is literally the mot useful item in the game.
>>733810915Butcher pisses me off because everyone told me it was a fighter upgrade but every butcher I have made just gets inundated with funny poop fart burp vomit shits himself that, while funny, I have yet to make useful to do that fantasy. I still prefer fighter because they do that retard brawler fantasy so well that you see a kitten with downs syndrome and go "thats a future top fighter right there".
I did one of the crazy cat doctor's side quests and got an item. Is this like Isaac where the item is added to the normal item pool or do I have to do the cancerous side quests every time to get a new one?
bros... just finished the jungle for the first time but the volcano wants to sacrifice one of my cats...should i do it?
>>733811774It means my cats died.
>>733811815Druid has a passive that makes their basic attack never inflict buffs on enemies or debuffs on allies. You obviously can't guarantee rolling it but if it gets inherited by a cat who also has a basic attack mutation it can make for a very versatile druid.
Why is Spewer harder than Throbbing King and Chaos?
>>733812035He had an entire game to train.
>>733812035Too early on, he basically forces you to do the hard mode route or die
>>733811815lolpretty good effect even with banning you from druid and tinkeryou can have a reserve room for cats without those mutations anyways. when you breed one of your cats with a stray you'll probably drop a mutation and you can just hoard thosemain reason I want the last room is so that I can manage two different builds rather than just having my whole house be my best mutation set
>>733812035Being harder than TK isn't really a high bar to clear.
>>733811953SAD NEWS: my cat just died for nothing
>>733812035He has PHD
>>733812151>threw his cat into a volcano>has the audacity to be sad about itthe sower and the reaper are one and the same
What class is Dyabbuk supposed to be?
>>733812306Merchant
>>733812306The jew
>>733812306Carpet Muncher
It's like the guy made an easy game then added a bunch of random bullshit that can fuck your run without you having a say in the matter. It doesn't make the gameplay more challenging, only wastes your time. Was Isaac also like that?
>mfw I shit on the floor on purpose instead of the litter box
>>733798236i don't save scum but i do rage quit.
>>733812306Fucking bullshit cheating motherfucker class
>>733801938So does this mean the smallest kat possible is a mini-mini me of a primordial dwarf hamsterstyle fighter that got turned into a kitten
>>733802839I hate Psychics so much it's unreal
>>733812430I had a pretty good run with one that got the immobilize and bruise spells. Very spammable.
>>733812394I think Edmund should have drawn more variations for the cats' bodies. I feel like I've seen them all already. For a game that epitomizes RNG it shouldn't be cycling this quickly.
>>733812306Ragebaiter
I'm getting mad at Man on the Moon. This boss sucks ass.
>>733812430It's a great class but a lot of the time it feels like it's just there since the value isn't that obvious.
>>733802876yeah I'll just leave it open for a few days while my battery dies
>>733812569waste a turn dancing infront of his face so the hands move in position.
>>733812569Put your fighter/tank/butcher in his mouthAnd set the game speed to 3x
>>733812390There were lots of items in Isaac that were bad on purpose as a joke. Some combos were legitimate run enders if you picked them up without knowing
>>733802839My Psychic solo'd Zartana. Had an upgraded version of i think it was gravity crush (deal dmg and inflict bruise + scales of magic but does physical dmg) as well as Hook (3 mana spell) and an upgraded Magician Temple (or something like that; every 6th spell you do more dmg, get int and lower the cost of your spells). So i basically wasted spells turn 1, then crushed her turn 2 with a kilo.The glass shard spells are utter shit tho.
>>733812545A D&D type game but all the classes are internet culture related... imagine.
>>733810949get him brace items, you did start him with some brace items before getting berzerk right?
>>733812272honestly i'm happy that i didn't lose my itemsit's the first i've gotten a bad roll on these kinds of events so i thought for sure you'd lose your cat items
>>733812569Go right instead of left
>>733812673probably why I never got into IssacI suspect I will soon be put in a situation that will make me put this game down too but so far not happening yet.
>>733812673ipecac alone killed more children than the combined black female population in the southwest.
Can you do both the scalding orb quest and Pyrophina quest at the same time
so close to breeding perfect 7's. I've got a few cats with 7 dex but highest constitution I have is 6
>>733812698No, turn based combat with D&D with classes based on internet culture. because "arguing online is turn based combat"
>>733812751It's a lot harder to totally brick your run since in the absolute worst case you can just kill your shitheap cat and go home after the boss, or just thug it out.
>grow cat population to 50>realizes i can't skip days infinitely anymore for breedingtime to upgrade the pet store i guess
>>733812789I'd rather have Ipecac than the fucking cursed eye that I kept getting that item is fucking run ender. At least ipecac makes you do insane damage.
>"Alright that's enough">Close game>Open it again 20 mins later
>>733812925And there were a few items that gave explosion immunity Cursed Eye was just horseshit that will inevitably ruin your run if you take it
>>733812985Just take black candle and it doesn’t teleport you
>>733803812>>733803728>DRUID IS SO GOOD GUYSyeah sure faggots
>>733812962Same. Garbage rng 2 hours per run slog simulator
>>733812985Yeah Pyromaniac just makes you effectively immortal with it, Cursed eye you get hit once on last boss and its back to square 1.
why is Spewer harder than any of the other Act 3 bosses, why the fuck are his numbers so fucking high
Are there any unique effects from what the crater maker eats?
>>733812925>>733812985Cursed Eye should just randomly teleport you within the room you are in, so should shit like cursed penny.>>733813045>give life
whichmst
>>733813092The drow literally cant move btw
>>733812925>At least ipecac makes you do insane damageto yourself
>>733813139Psychosis if you can get 15 MP before a normal stage ends
>>733812035throbbing king is a pushover, he's literally just riding his own balls
>>733813168>>733813081>>733812925>>733812390>2026>people crying about ipecacLmao what
>>733813139both shit for bosses but madness is less shit
>>733813168I've beaten suicide king, what a dogshit challenge. The unlock sucks too.
>>733812673i dont know but you have a lot more agency in isaac, you can even skip items and entire rooms
>>733813237>it's [current year] guise! cmon!lol
the necklace that duplicates your hat and face items effects is absolutely insane
alright any tips
so does cat rib just clone the cat as a kitten? or do you lose all skills/passives ?what are the mechanicscan i just use retired cat in a house boss battle let it die and get it back at as kitten age 1?
>>733813489It's best to stall in this one
>>733813489Get ready for a long fight.
>>733813489have you undermined your host country recently?
>>733813071Despite lasting longer than the average Isaac run it doesn't feel like a slog to me, an Isaac run with low speed It's a bigger slog regardless of how good your items are.
>>733813489Dont let your cats get near him at the end, he has an insta kill you can’t read because its in german
>>733813636>game is secretly easier in if you speak other languages.
>get my ass raped in a 2 hour slog run>Decide to run to the core to regear my inventory>fucking rains in the coreI feel like I'm being pitied.
>>733813780>Crazy Weather in the desert>2-3 random gusts of wind at the end of the round blowing everything into cacti multiple times
tell me about the rabbits johnny
>Finally decide to use the Nuke Gun for a run>Grab a peace symbol so only the Necro using it will kill himself with it>Toolbox accessory doesn't actually remove its break chance OhWell at least that was an easy clear of the Desert
Seriously will the D6 wear out? It seems busted as shit to just bring on a run.
>>733803439I thought tina3 would be harder. Wasted my Cleric Druid combo on her. Every time something died thou shall not kill got attributed to the cleric so everyone got +1 stats every time a maggot or squirrel died. Insane.
>>733814072Seems that you pretty much require Mini-Me and Peace Symbol to make good use of it but lord what good use it would mkae, especially if it was a Necro anyway.
>forgot to sort my items before ending the day>i had two unused gunshow do i even dress myself
>>733814283I've probably lost some items doing that but oh well, eagles aren't even that hard to come by with birdseed and high base luckI'm actually prioritizing the upgrades from Butch now since he was still asking for Act 2 cats
>>733812792if you want to speed up the process, breed him to a cat with the missing stats until you get an offpsring with at least four 7s with 2 of them covering dex and con.breed the offspring back to chiffy. then clean up the inbreeding>>733813489leech necro with high con is always safe, but so slow going. and anything that can improve stats every turn
>getting filtered by act 2 again after beating the final boss of act 2Fuck me im bad at drafting games lol
Rain staff buck breaks act 2
>>733814518Haven't seen this one yet
>run starts off promising>the priest gets rabiesthis fucking game
>>733814518i had a mage saving my first run there with a torrent skill at the expense of one injury
>>733813489Crush that head!
I learned today that you can tell who your cats love or hate, way before getting the upgrade that tells you. One of my Cats were hissing like crazy at another cat and lo-n-behold it was a cat it hated so I had to separate them.
>>733814539Act 3 unlock, but once you get it, it’s over
>>733814539Genuine spoiler but it's because it's a class reward for a clear on act 3 by which point act 2 should be a formality...It also makes an absolutely fuckhueg puddle. Like, diameter 7 or some shit.
>>733813489there's no punishment to throwing out a single cat for house bosses right?
>>733814631This. The only actual useful advice. Focus the head to make the body blind
>>733814541sacrifice a stray before each actual run to reset the "fuck you, you're playing too good" karma system
>>733814705Oh I was fucking around with breeding and getting the Rift unlocked for a whole before progressing with the time machine
>>733814659I had a cat visibly smacking the shit out of another one, lmao. Even funnier, it was two cats that had just come back from a successful run.
