>NEW YORK, Feb 25 (Reuters) - New York's attorney general sued Valve, a video game developer whose franchises include Counter-Strike, Team Fortress and Dota, accusing it of violating state gambling laws and threatening to addict children through its use of "loot boxes."
>>733800481They don't have the balls to sue China BTW.
They may as well sue E.A, Ubisoft, Nintendo, Activision, and Playstation/Sony as well.
>>733800481>Pedos: think of the children!LMAO
>>733800662Oh, and Microsoft.
>>733800481Anything that has lootboxes should be 18+ only, or better yet completly banned from gaming
Isn't this like the third lawsuit against Valve in half a year? That doesn't seem organic
But all three of those games are adults only. You cannot enter a esports venue for those games if you're underaged. It's all adults drinking and cursing like sailors.
>>733800481Can we just not have gacha and loot boxes? Remember games like Timesplitters where you unlocked all the characters and maps by playing the game?
>>733800481That bitch is ugly as FUCK>Counter-StrikeHalf-Life mod downgraded to have loot boxes>Team Fortress 2Quake mod downgraded to have loot boxes and removed entire game-modes like protect the VIP>DotA 2Warcraft 3 custom map downgraded to have loot boxes and an incredibly massively downgraded art styleIf you defend Valve you are a cultist.
>>733800481I'm sorry, how and why are children allowed to play these games in the first place? And where are they getting the money from?
>>733800927Because we don't have enough mandatory ID checking online
>>733800481But CS is rated M for mature?
>>733800904>protect the VIPThat gamemode sucks
>>733800647>China numbah w-ACK!
>>733800481So they're gonna sue Wizards of the Coast and Nintendo next, right?
Going after adult games is retarded. They should be going after FIFA and those games that clearly target age 3-7.
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>>733801008The 2forts map sucks too but they still ported it over almost completely unchanged.
>>733800818Companies get sued constantly, it's normal.
>win against a rothschild>the entire world "suddenly" turns against you
>announce a functioning operating system that competes with windows 11 spyware>instantly the jews try to attack your credit scoreI'm about to notice
ID Age verification coming soon to Steam then
>>733801323>>733801360wow you guys are real forward thinkers
>THINK OF DA CHILLUN (who are playing M-rated games they shouldn't be to begin with) >meanwhile anyone watching sports gets blasted with ads for actual gambling
You hate gambling in video games, right /v/? https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2026/attorney-general-james-sues-game-developer-promoting-illegal-gambling-through
Valve trannies getting mad but where's the lie?
>>733801412why go after valve instead of companies like ea or activision blizzard that also have loot boxes and that are bigger?
>>733800927Because kids can't go outside anymore with all those pedos and immigrants
>>733801412whats the matter rabbi? pattern recognition got you down?
>>733801167Hell they should be going after Fortnite.
>>733800481They are really seething about Valve not going public so that they can be taken over an Epstein-adjacent megacorp.
>>733801430Yes. RNG loot for real money is always retarded.
>>733800481the jew won't stop until finding it's way into valve's pockets
If Valve implemented a hard pity system then it wouldn't be gambling right? You would always get a shiny product after a certain amount of purchases.
>>733801430>letitia jamesrothschilds 200% are the ones behind
>>733801591Just list all the items for a fixed price and let people buy them. This artifical scarcity shit is retarded.
They're completely right, but they're just looking to be paid off. People who go "b-but what about EA or gachaslop" don't understand that other companies are selling you actual lootboxes, as in you pay 5 bucks and you maybe get something worth 0 bucks. Valve is selling keys to open crates that MIGHT contain 20 grand, which is blatant gambling.
>>733801551Valve's great crime is denying international jews their percentage
>>733801480EA and Activision get hit by this kind of lawsuit all the time lilbrohttps://vancouversun.com/news/bc-lawsuit-electronic-arts-loot-boxes-deceptivehttps://thebrownlawfirm.com/case-no-37-2020-00020000/
>>733800481>She served as counsel for Albert Vann, Chief of Staff for Roger L. Green in the New York State Assembly, and in the administration of New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer.>Eliot Laurence Spitzer (born June 10, 1959) is an American politician and attorney who served as the 54th governor of New York from 2007 until his resignation in 2008 after a prostitution scandal.
>>733800662>>733801480They have shareholders who would be very upset at that.Valve is private, nobody will mind if they got sued. If they didn’t want this to happen, they could have just gone public to a couple of firms.
>>733801591They kinda did that with the patch that let you trade up reds to a gold last year.
>>733800481>this will distract from us fucking up the city!
>>733801551Their endgame is to do what they did to Alex Jones. Find a way to force an illegal sale go a third party.
Good. They got away with their underage casino for long enough. It's about time Valve is exposed for what it is.
>>733801551>We need more money so we can keep praying and add interracial and ugly people everywhere AIEEEEEEmost cursed race ever lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1reosao/new_york_sues_video_game_developer_valve_says_its/
>>733801680Random chance is fun to a certain extent. Gacha machines and gacha games exist for a reason. Even the ancient Romans had dice games. The key is not making it too exploitative.
>>733801520Unfortunately, Fartnite is paid up to the right people.
>>733801843Well if some redditor says it then it must be true.
>>733801843Oh, it's a way to get age verification and thus ID verification for Steam, huh?
>>733801167>>733801520This isn't about gambling, it's about pressuring Valve to go public.If Valve goes public then the wealthy can take hold of it and bring Steam's practices in line with other platforns like EGS. It's how they get around anti-monopoly laws; simply buy every outlet as 'stock holders' and force them all to conform to the same standards. It's what Blackrock was and still sorta is doing with entertainment media. It's just another scam to fuck over everyone for NUMBER GO UP economics.
Nothing will ever come of this. Gabe does nothing and always wins.
You want to regulate online gambling?NOOOO YOU ARE ROTHSCHILDHOW WILL I AFFORD MORE YACHTS NOW?
>>733801975It helps your rivals keep cucking themselves lmao
>>733801918IIRC you already need to give Valve your phone number just to play CS or Dota ranked.
didn't Valve do something that made it so easy to craft those $20,000 knife skins that it caused the Counterstrike "economy" to crash?of course nobody really ever paid thousands of dollars for a knife skin. that would be fucking retarded. that shit was always just a front for small-time money laundering
CS2 is a betting platform with FPS elements
>>733801881There's no benefit for the consumer. Especially in games where the drop chance is obscured so you don't know how rare an item is. Want gambling in your game? Use fake money. Nobody gives a fuck then
>>733800481>Win a lawsuit against the literal boogeyman family of Kikes who have been fucking around behind the scenes since Napoleon was around.>Suddenly get targeted in another lawsuit by the city/state with the largest concentration of kikes outside of IsraelHmmmmmm I feel like I'm seeing something here...
>>733802079And that's a good thing.
>>733801843In the unlikely case that they lose, they would just do what they did for some countries in europe which is instead of selling a key, selling an item that lets you peek into the case and then if you want it you can open it with a key.
>>733800818This is a hit by Rothschild because they Steam won the case against them.
>>733800662none of those companies use lootboxes like Valve does
>>733801979>we're not going to investigate all the child rape and murder going on on the jews-only child rape island>but we are going to come down on this guy who refuses to take his company public>because we care so much about protecting kids
They are right you know
>>733801696I think you need to use third party apps to cash in tho.
>>733800709Who are you quoting?
>>733801843>cutting out jew york will cripple the economy of cs2city roaches unironically say shit like when they live with 5 roommates in an overpriced shitbox
>>733800481They're 100% right. It's hilarious that the messenger is compelling people to clap their ass cheeks in the opposite direction.
>>733801412
>>733802234He's right. Fuck rng lootboxes being sold for real money
>>733802278is there a worse place on the internet than the Steam forums?
>>733802240Like I don't even play lootboxes shit but kids don't have freedom these days with all the nogs, feminism, everything raising etc what the fuck do they expect them to do Meanwhile kids get raped in literally dungeons. Some girl in UK told she saw little girls raped by dogs and killed and no one will do shit
>>733800481Meanwhile every other commercial on TV is some sportsball nigger trying to get you to download a gambling app
>>733802297You can cash in for money on the marketplace and then use that money to buy physical goods delivered to your door. Obviously nobody does that for higher ticket items due to the maximum limit for listings, but still, it's kids gambling for a possible 100x in a best case scenario.
>>733800662>They may as well sue E.A, Ubisoft, Nintendo, Activision, and Playstation/Sony as well.Setting a legal precedent only requires going after 1 company. If the whale gets harpooned, the rest of the fish are forced to follow in line.
>>733801843>age verification Oh I see.
>>733802393That's pedotera
>>733802278Who are these fags that think the Steam forums are Stormfront 2.0?
But Gaben donated to their party, why are they going after their own team?
I don't mind gambling in my games if said games are rated for adults.I do mind gambling in my games when they're suddenly in my teenage games.
>>733800481>>733801843These "unappreciated fellows" really want valve to go public. The problem now is that NY is very corrupt so the case is a concern. Bottom is. "They're" upset that they don't own valve.
>Americans care about gamblingSince when? Everybody has done their best to turn this country into one big casino over the last decade.
>>733802240>Why are you arresting me for running illegal casino?>But there are literal murderers out there? Why won't you let me get away with being a jew?He had his fun for decades. Justice always wins in the end kike cocksucker.
>>733800709>think of the childrenAll of Valve's games (besides Portal) are rated M and therefore are not for children. It is up to parents to police their kids, not the government. There was a clear warning label on the games and they let their kids play it anyway.
>>733802353>'jak image from twittertruly enlightened I kneel
this is 100% a favour being called in for the rothschilds
>>733801979>regulate online gamblingAka put your real ID into a Palantir database while forcing Valve to go public so that they can be bought off by Bill Gates.
>>733802467Jews need to go
>>733800818They won a case vs Them so now they’re under attack on all angles
>>733802589How about stop being a kike and make video games again lazy jew?
>>733800818Valve won against a Rothschild, making them based on anti-jew pilled. They must be humiliated now.
>>733802104You cannot cash items in the Steam market. It's fake money.
>>733802534Steamies are losing their minds
>>733802239Yeah, they're worse. Why should I give a shit about free drops in free games that I can sell to buy more games? Certain people love to act like it's the most heinous shit ever, but other companies made you gamble for actual content in paid games where if you got garbage you couldn't do shit about it. And people will always find something to gamble over and waste their money. If they're using think of muh children as an excuse for these M rated games, parents need to fucking parent.These fags should be going after gacha garbage long before valve.
BTW sell all your items if you still have any.They won't be worth anything real soon.
>>733802240It wasn't Jews only, it was just mostly Jewish.
>VIDEO GAME LOOT BOXES ARE GAMBLING AND SHOULD BE REGULATED ...>BUY YOUR LOTTERY TICKET TODAY>CHANCE OF YOU WINNING ARE 1 IN A TRILLION>SPEND NOW, POORFAGS https://nylottery.ny.gov/
Good.
>Valve and Gaben going to prison
I don't see why people shit their pants so hard over paid skins. It's not like the p2w shit you see in Japanese games.
Is seems sus as fuck that Valve of all companies is getting sued and not any of the dozen other games/publishers doing the same thing. Also arent there a new breed of gambling apps like klarna or something that are just digital casinos?
>>733802697How do you buy the items to open crates?
>>733802814Valve is not public, so they cannot be controlled.
>>733802508It's fucking disgusting, honestly. The amount of ads I see for Prizepicks everywhere is absurd. Fantasy football is just gambling!
>>733802442Can kids make purchases on Steam without a credit card from their parents?
>>733802814That's what you are crying about?You may not have noticed but Valve is the elephant in the room so they have to be made an example.
>>733802490>Who
>>733802851Redditors suck Jew dick
>>733802851>this would be a win for consumersHow does retards throwing money around for worthless skins impact me at all?At least valve is using that money to fund cool shit like proton and fex.
>>733802519Post nose.
>>733802535>joyless faggot thinks he can tell anons what sites he can use
>we must team up with reddit and the rothschilds to take down valve, sisters!!
>>733801551im surpised they havent just killed gabe and made his dipshit son sell
>>733802994>meWhat about others?
>>733802662They are literally making Dreadlock and Half-Life Tri.
>>733800481what did gabe do to piss off the elites now they want to destroy him
>>733803081>Valve>making gamesThats cute.
>Sega charging $10 for Sonic emoteFine.>Valve charging $0.03 for Dota 2 emoteREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>733800481>jew ruled state stages hit on privately owned, objectively least noxious microtransaction actor in the industry after Rothschild loses a case against themFunny cohencidences all around in the land of the circumcised.
>>733803128What's the chance of receiving the correct sonic emote?
>>733803057Society wouldn't work if dipshits weren't tard wrangled, that's why we have police and mental institutions, regulations, and other shit.
>>733802825You buy fake money with real money.
>>733803080What about them? They're choosing to gamble. That's their prerogative. And if parents are handing little timmy their credit card and letting him play m rated games, they deserve the bill.
It's all so tiresome
https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-york-sues-video-game-developer-valve-says-its-loot-boxes-are-gambling.1446475/
>>733803181It's 100% guaranteed if you spend $100Versus you spending 3 cents on steam marketplace
>>733803082Nothing. They are panicking for unrelated reasons and now they want to own all film studios and game companies so that they can implement a totalitarian surveillance and censorship system with mandatory biometrics across the board.
>>733803082>biggest digital vidya store>all attempts to dethrone Steam failed>refuses to go public>just BTFO (((Rothschild))) in courtIt's time for retaliation.
>>733803057If you dislike slaves, just don't buy them! Good to see reddit still attracts the best and brightest.
Valve sisters.... they're trying to take our full priced game rentals away from us again.........
>>733803307golems activated
>valve wins a lawsuit agains the Rothschilds...>one month later jew york goes after Valveand people really think the US isn't a jewish vassal state...
flags would go hard in this thread
>>733803375retardShouldn't have to explain why that's a retarded thing to try and conflate
>>733803375Yeah? No stop to mass immigration policies worldwide or any actions taken against China. You clearly enjoy slavery.
>>733800481funny how they never go after Fifa
>>733800481No money payout no gambling. There is so much precedent with card packs this will be very easy for Valve to defend.
On one hand seeing valve get rid of skin crates is something I wouldn't mind.On the other this seems bizarrely targeted. When I think of lootboxes and gambling I think of actual digital casinos and FIFA.Also if she wants to set a precedent don't you go after the little things and then snowball that up the ladder?
>>733803365this(((they))) use lawfare to bully every tech company into going public so they can buy out control and ensure nobody is free to notice them or talk about it.
>>733803452>muh privately ownedI swear someone put that fucking phrase into plebbiotors minds without ever explaining what it actually means.Fucks sake, Epic Game is also privately owned.
>>733802498letitia james is the one suing valveif you didn't know, a few years ago she tried to sue trump on bogus charges and tried to confiscate trump towerthe case eventually got thrown out because of excessive fines
>>733800481I think gambling as a whole should be toned down a lot, not just loot boxes
>>733803575Privately owned by Tencent.
>>733803575Epic games is worthless.
Valve's reign of terror ends TODAY
Zigger meltdown thread
>>733803650Everything in a Valve lootbox is worth $0.
>>733800481They're right but New York is keen on trying to take money from Valve, huh. Previous sue was about some law firm in NY too.
>>733803650>letting childrenUh, no.
>>733803575Do you not understand what that person is inferring?
>>733803365Dis
>>733803650Everyone defending Valve are actually Magatards. They don't care about Valve, they just want Letitia to fail.
>>733800481>Steam assrapes the Rothschilds in court>Suddenly Valve's loot boxes are a problemLawfare is gayer than the club scene from Cruising.
>>733802508I don't consider myself a moralfag. But it is true that when people lack examples to follow, when it comes to morals and norms or even laws, they stop following them. The country is ruled by people who don't give a fuck about morals or laws. And for at least a decade now, they don't even pretend to give a fuck about them anymore. So, why would the common people give a fuck either?Gambling is allowed to spread unchecked because the regulators lack integrity. When the people with power have no integrity, the powerless masses beneath them are bound by the laws, but not protected by the laws. This makes them lose hope for the future, which means they turn to gambling and other vices. Whoever sells the vices rakes in money, and sends kickbacks to those with power, one way or another. Then the cycle continues.It's a spiral that drags the whole society down, one of many. It's a symptom of moral decline, which is itself a symptom of decline in government, which ultimately stems from having a broken system that can't be reformed.If this flavor of gambling is banned, great. But it's a band-aid on a broken leg. The party filing suit is just as guilty as the other party, if not more, but they'll never be held accountable. It is what it is.
>>733803881I don't know niggers by name, sorry bluesky.
>>733803881>they just want Letitia to failshe already failed thoshe's just doing whatever her masters tell her to do
>>733803012
>>733803881I am opposed to all government intervention. Stay the fuck out of my life and my hobbies. The free market will decide.
>>733803650Spam her that she has to sue Blizzard, EA and co too otherwise she is just a hypocrite.
>>733804031>accusing a leftoid golem of hypocrisyno anything but that!!! they'll die from it!!!
>>733804018>free marketlmaoyou are even more delusional than commies
>>733802239What they did worse, hell EA was the worst of them all
>>733803554These glowies aren't even trying to blend in anymore.
>>733804091She won't have enough money and staying power to go against corpo money. It's obviously a targeted attackin form of a lawsuit. Anyone with a brain can understand that.
>>733804197It's not her money lol
>>733800481Are the Rothschilds still pissed about losing to Valve that they are resorting to scorched earth tactics?https://youtu.be/QsHW8th5fPQ
>>733800818Lawsuits against successful corporations are very common, but valve beat some jews in court and jews own all the media, so they're amplifying it to try and hurt valve's image. Doesn't matter since Valve is a private company which hits the jews right in their achilles.
>>733803365This time valve will lose for sure!
>>733800662This is a much easier case when the items from loot boxes can effectively be sold for monetary value.
>>733804353They can't though.
>>733803881Why doesn't she open a case against Epstein and Trump links to human trafficking in New York?
>>733804279Nice cope drone but this won't work this time.Valve will shutdown those gambling games.We are coming for the yachts next.
>>733804420she tried and lostjust like how you lost
>>733804420pol likewise has tons of retards like you crying leave trump alone go after da juicethe mask has fallen you kike cocksucker, everyone knows what you are trying to do.
>>733801918There isn't any need for complicated lawsuits to force age verification, its now constitutional after last year's supreme court ruling to implement a law to require age verification for content "legally harmful to minors", which while a high legal bar would include the porn that Valve is selling.
>>733800895Best I can do is Kickstarter-exclusive maps with Pre-order exclusive characters that are better than other characters for the pvp
>>733804327Steam Balance being equal to money spent is one of the most transparent mtx systems to ever exist.
>>733803307>>733804023>>733804119>>733804327>>733804476You're screencapping these like it's supposed to be funny, but everything they're saying is right. Yeah they're seething a little too hard, probably because they're a bunch of sony fanboys, but nothing they said is wrong. All bullshit aside, loot boxes exploit the same psychological tricks as gambling.It's probably illegal already, and if it's not illegal already, it should be.Gambling is a form of MTX, which is a cancer on gaming.It's also a source of RMT, which is insanely cancerous to gaming.And most importantly for us here on /v/, games with gambling are universally fucking garbage.Gacha is fucking garbage.Western gacha, which isn't labeled gacha, is also fucking garbage.I don't care if the one to take out the garbage is this woman. I don't care if it's a literal baboon. I don't care if Jeffery Epstein rose from the grave to do it and hired Bobby Kotick as his lawyer. He'd still be right.
>>733802373just don't buy them nigger, I don't, it's easy.
>>733804476>thing bad because... it just is!The fuck do these retards actually have a problem with?
>>733804609go back
I genuinely cant take this seriously when for the past couple of years several corporations have been trying to force gambling in all sorts of apps and entertainmenthttps://youtu.be/9Ii1ROzeSwU?si=IlDCe23ozVrB7RRs
>>733804476>it's bad because you can actually cash outAmericans
>>733804487That case wasn't about human trafficking. Epstein and Maxwell literally wanted to make a modelling agency similar to the one Melania runs. There has to be tons of evidence and conspirators in New York for what they were doing.
>>733800481the UK just banned anime as well, like 3 hours ago.
>>733804678>schizo ramblingok that's nice dear
Man, private companies that aren't open to shareholders demanding socio-political propaganda implementation or government demands of privacy invasion really do catch a lot of lawsuits, don't they?
>>733804609They're free drops in free games you can totally ignore or sell for a couple bucks to whoever wants to give a damn. It's the most harmless shit ever.
>>733804512Valve can just make porn games invisible in the store unless you make a transaction first.
>>733801093lol 20 million fine, that's barely a drop in the bucket of what they earn in one banner. they give away more money in free pulls every title release. these fines are so fucking toothless, facebook even has a portion of their budget set aside for paying fines to the EU
>>733804724>the UK just banned anime as well, like 3 hours ago.Banned simulated incest porn here too. Cousin marriage is still legal though and have no plans to outlaw it.
>>733804609Loot boxes with hard pity is not the same as gambling.
>>733800481won't ever do anything about draftkings, kalshi, coinbase, etc. you know the actual gambling companies that are giving nothing while taking everything from their users
>>733804609>don't care about Jeffery EpsteinYou clearly don't.
EU is going to do sweeping ban for lootbox in 8 months anyway.
gambling is only regulated to stifle competition, historically it was cheap and easy to get into so now it must be gatekept
>>733804837Well of course not most of the new Brits are used to marrying cousins.
>>733804735https://youtu.be/Twv6VzGNAPg
>>733802814None of the other gaming companies are as big nor have as large of impact as valve. Also Microsoft caught a lot of shit for buying activision a few years ago
>>733804874>Gambling ads during every single intermission of [insert sport here]>*crickets*>Valve has loot boxes in M rated game>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>gambling for me, but not for thee
>>733803307Time is a flat circle.
>>733804874All of those aren't targeted at a younger demographic . Also crypto has been hit by the SEC a few times. Hell online gambling was made illegal for a long while during the bush administration too. COVID gave the government an interest in bringing it back
>>733804874Blame the Supreme Court for adding a loophole where those sites technically aren't gambling but """prediction markets"""
>>733804996>Well of course not most of the new Brits are used to marrying cousins.I wish I was memeing, but it's all true.
>>733805029The jeeta in charge of the FTC lawsuit fucked up the case on purpose.
>>733805156>All of those aren't targeted at a younger demographicYou say that but I outright don't believe it with how much they spam their ads everywhere
>>733801412thanks a bunch. being aware of jewish shenanigans is my favorite pasttime. you can actually enrich yourself quite a bit if you think like a moneygrubbing kike, even rubbing your hands greedily will help.
>>733800818>organic>lawsuitsanon... do you think lawsuits grow on trees? this might shock you but all lawsuits are man made.
>>733805181Prediction markets are cool. Lootboxes are cool.If you like battlepasses and polls instead, then there's a way better website for you.
>>733801918they already force you to verify your age with a birthdate selection screen
>>733805029Valve is tiny compared with Tencent, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. They are about the same size as EA which is now being purchased by Saudi oligarchs and Jared Kushner.
>>733805156Children aren't supposed to play Counter-Strike.
>>733805245That doesnt actually matter when you need ID and SSN to verify to those places . Shit we here would actively love to avoid for video games . It's completely different unless the kid is gambling on fuckin mommy's draft kings account which in that case there are many larger issues
>>733805319Google says Valve is worth at most no more than $20 billion. EA was sold for $55 billion.
>>733804423>We are coming for the yachts next.Firstly you're a shitposter so you didn't do shitSecond why the yachts, sure I'm cool with shit like lootboxes being slapped down but it's not like Valve doesn't make most of it's money from Steam.
>>733800481They are going to lose again, because the retarded mayor and his cocksuckers, her included, are pulling all of this shit in hopes of bending the population for his towel head buddies.They are really taking classes out of brazillian corrupt politicians and copying the same stupidity in process
>>733805401Yeah but that would require parents to parent their children which is like, realllllly hard. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.
>>733805486Yeah it is obviously not about curtailing gambling or anything of the like
>>733805319Their role in the market is significantly larger than all of them except for tencent anon.
so why are baseball card packs legal?
>>733805486I think Valve makes 10 billion in yearly revenue, so that's probably inflating the cost of the company considering their IP and potential for profit expansion.
>>733804615thats like advocating for junkies not to get high, its not going to happen. you have to dronestrike the supplier and dry out the consumer. there is no other way. dont treat teh sympton, treat teh cause.there should be many more people sued for not just lootboxing but introducing basically in-game currency that you have to buy with real money, aka rockstar sharkcards and the likes. all this shit needs to stop. this all setting aside the age verification bullshit. best case scenario is they disable all teh lootbox crap and then there is no age verification process being forced upon (which technically already happens when you buy giftcards/pay with creditcards, but teh kikes wont care for that)
>>733805604>Valve is more powerful than TencentYou don't even think that, you are fucking lying.
>>733805608because they don't actually care about any of this shit, it's just to get their names in the news with a new headline to act like they're actually doing anything
>>733800818(((They))) are seething that Valve won't cuck out and go public so this is what they do.
>>733805518Yachts are a shining example of billionaire greed. They all deserve to be scrapped, lol.>inb4 commiecry about it jew
>>733805608it used to be commonplace that any kind of card packs werent complete ripoffs, stealing childrens money. yes, shit needs to be banned or regulated as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bIOqK57QGc
>>733805518>why the yachtsSpite.>Man is richer than me and I don't like that. No it doesn't matter that man got richer than me by offering a good product. He doesn't deserve it because being richer than me is bad.
>>733805653Post quadruple citizenship passports.
>>733805773kids like the baseball cards they aren't stealing money
>>733805772Yachts are just floating houses.
>>733805156>sports isn’t targeted towards a younger demographicYou’re a retard.
>>733805772That's fine but this hardly changes that
>>733800481Why are New Yorkers such retards? Staten Island is the only part that seems halfway sane, and that's because that's where the blue collars live.
>>733800481What's up with all these people suddenly trying to sue Valve recently?
>>733800481This is actually a good thing, it could establish case law that could fuck over other companies with similar dogshit practices.
>>733806024retard
>>733806024You could just...not play games that do that shit. Wanting daddy government to swoop in and regulate the absolute shit out of everything so that the world can be nerfed for you is very commie-coded.
>>733800818Yeah no shit they aren't organic. Modern courts are extremely corrupt and all these corporations are pissed that a private company that Valve exists and has such a stronghold in one of the biggest entertainment industries
>>733805946The moment they would do a more general court case against gambling it would involve sports betting/casinos. This would literally be like the Jews cutting their own veins off. So they can't do it. If such a case was to be opened against one of their own institutions, it would die down immediately and never get to be this prominently featured in all media...
Worst case scenario Valve will just close the steam market which is the only way those third party gambling sites work.reddit is cheering this on like it will destroy lootboxes but it just kills steam users ability to buy some free games every once in a while.
>>733800481>Letitia James I'm sure Gaben is quaking in his boots
>>733800662They are going after Gabe to try to force him to sell Valve to certain...interest groups...
>>733800662Why would they?Gaben beat the Rothschilds, those companies did not. Gaben must be punished. The "I just shot my foot" companies need to crab bucket Valve so they can win.
>>733806258>Valve will just close the steam market which is the only way those third party gambling sites work.Most likely the resultLootboxes are garbage but it's the marketplace and trading that enable the gambling aspect from third parties
>>733800662Name a single game released by any of these companies in the last few years that has utilized lootboxes. You can't, all of the big players have been moving away from them after the Battlefront 2 disaster that got regulators smelling blood.
>>733800818>bootlick so hard your near monopoly company being sued is actually a conspiracyretard levels always getting higher on this board.
>>733806549FIFA
>>733806578>near monopolyit has less control over the ecosystem than sony or nintendo, where literally every decision has to go through them
>>733806549Technically Fortnite enabled them recently for creator games.But yeah the big companies moved away generally.
>>733806612They moved to a battlepass model I thought
>>733806730valve owns both the lootbox, and the market to sell the lootboxes, and their content. taxing every sale.If you're gonna schizo about jews at least recognise when its actually happening and don't just turn ab lind eye because its your precious hecking gaben.
>>733800481Ironically valve lootboxes are the least worst ones out there because at least you can re-sell the shit you get from them. In most games you just get some account-bound item so it is a literal money sink.
>>733806862What companies don't own their lootboxes, their market to sell lootboxes and their content?
>>733806823All the sports games have card packs and you build a team of players with the cards. The cards have ratings and rarity and you need the best to win. When the game releases every streamer is dumping hundreds of dollars and opening mass packs.This is by far the most popular mode in the game too.
>>733802181It's crazy to think there are "people" out there who make millions of dollars doing nothing except suing people over patents and most companies just didn't feel like opening that can of worms and just paid the feeit's fitting to hear that the blood-sucking jew lawyer doing this has the last name "Rothschild"
>>733806862>valve owns both the lootbox, and the market to sell the lootboxes, and their content. taxing every sale.what's the issue?
>>733804294this lmao, no stock price to fall if there's no stock at allthey are SEETHING so hard at Valve
>>733807407>what's the issue?Gaben isn't a tribe member so he's not allowed to have a money printing system like that.
>>733804850None of valve's loot boxes have pity though. Unless you're counting tradeups? Even then, there's no guarantee you get an unusual, just that if you trade up enough you can get the top tier item.
>>733805736Except for tencent. Read retard. They are definitely more powerful than EA and Sony
>>733800481they just want money. valve is privately owned so the jews are paying people to harras them, they want to take ownership of valve really badly.
>>733800481Uh oh, Rothschilds are big mad. Why wasn't it EA getting sued, but now after Valve puts the smack down on those Jewish fucks, suddenly another suit pops up?
UH OH STEAMY MELTDOWN
I lived long enough to see /v/ actually celebrate lootboxes, huh
>>733807992I just don't buy them, works for me. I appreciate the game being free though.
>DA JOOZ>DA ROTHSCHILDS>DA CENTRAL BANKWhat are you going to do about them? Absolutely fucking nothing
>>733801323>>733801360>>733802498if the yacht company didnt bend over for visa and goycard resulting in yet another mass banning of jp games, i may feel some empathy for thembut no, im just cheering for these kikes to eat each other and for both of these sides to die while i enjoy games from the jp nintendo eshop that valve banned
>>733804031You do them one at a time to set precedent, to make the successive cases easier.
>>733801360>the jews want to ban you from being able to gamble on meaningless virtual itemsThis site is so poisoned by contrarianism it's embarrassing
>>733808250they do nothing because they confuse the act of noticing, with rebellion on itself.
did the patent troll go and cry on daddys lap?
>>733808342way more hentai on steam
>>733800481>doesn't mention Artifactgoddam
>>733805181Valve should rename them to Prediction Crates.
>>733806281Actual trvke
>>733800818It should have been obvious with all of Timmy’s shenanigans. They made epic games launcher thinking that they could remove steam as an obstacle by strong arming publishers and bribing them like Larry Fink does. That didn’t work and gamers still prefer steam.Really, it boils down to valve being harder for them to control because its private and it drives them nuts.
>>733801412>stop noticingwe're on to your games pal
>>733801430Isn’t that the dumb cunt who tried to sue Blumpft for something and got eternally and very publicly btfo?
>>733808250We're going to use the jewish fear mongering against muslims to set a precedent for removing troublesome religious groups and then use it boot out all the jews. Going to be funny.
>>733800481I voted for this.
>“… it is important to note that Valve’s promotion of games that glorify violence and guns helps fuel the dangerous epidemic of gun violence, particularly among young gamers who can become numbed to grave violence before their brains are fully developed.”LMAOOOOOOOOOOOTHEY JUST CAN FUCKING HELP THEMSELVESYOU ALREADY HAD IT GOOD THE FIRST TIME
>>733800481the jewish offense continues I see
>>733800481It's true>>733800662They should do this
>>733800481>literally the least problematic big company in the US>just sits in their own corner and does their own thing>most pro-consumer tech company>gets sued repeatedly over and over for no reasonfascinating
>>733808848What the FUCK does that have to do with gambling? She's gonna be BTFO in court again.
>>733808852jewish crimes against humanity will continue until morale improves(morale will improve when they're all gone)
>>733808848Ah so theres the rub.
>>733808808She won't buy the penalties were voided.
>>733808842New York is one of the single most leftist authoritarian shitholes in the country, the fuck are you babbling about?
>>733808848Wouldnt be government intervention without hefty amount of overreach
>>733802054Wow that's like totally the same thing, it's kinda like how entering your password is like entering your credit card details or how looking at something is like setting it on retard.
>>733802702Stay there, faggot
>>733800481They hate Gaben because he's the only one that actually allows you to resell your digital property unlike the rest of the industry
>>733803082You're not supposed to notice the 300 different lawsuits that are being filed all over the world against them right now.
>>733800481Jew York hates gambling? Who would've guessed! Wouldn't want the goyim getting their racketeering money.
>>733809173Its mostly uk and na
>>733803307People acting as if being able to sell your cosmetics to other people is such a terrible and evil feature are a mystery, because I just don't believe that they are all CEOs of other companies who are afraid of implementing something like that.
>>733804609The issue is that it's so blatantly and shamelessly targeted. This shit is rampant and you somehow swerve around all the worst, most prolific, and most profitable instances of of it to specifically target one of the currently least offensive and relevant versions of it. It's like driving past a bunch of known crackhouses, a legion of fent zombies, and a whole cartel convoy carrying meth, heroin, PCP, Ketamine, et cetera so that you can have the media watch you kick down the door of a pot farm.
I'm cool with going after child-friendly gambling but you better go after all of it. I'm talking Crane Machines, I'm talking Yu-Gi-Oh, I'm talking blind bags. gambling but it's okay for kids (sometimes obfuscated as a "game of skill") was an omnipresent part of my childhood
>patent troll rothschild jew loses lawsuit>another one starts up right aftercall me adolf hitler but it doesn't look like a (((cohen)))cidence.
I never understand why its so bad that you can cash out your bought cosmetics.Like do you realize just how much people spend on fucking shit like FIFA or League or CoD or Overwatch or even gacha titles for skins but once they don't want to play those games anymore all the skins they have were basically just gigantic moneypits?I played CS back then, bought some skins even a knife and when I got bored of it I sold them all in the market and practically made my money back.Why is this bad?
>>733809538BUT LOW IMPULSE CONTROL RETARDS TREAT IT LIKE CRYPTO
>>733809538>Why is this bad?BECAUSE THE MONEY BELONGS TO US
>>733809340>I'm talking Crane MachinesI was watching a video the other day on youtube where a guy documents the trials and tribulations of running a laundromat. He had a crane machine. He was made to remove it by the local authorities because it was considered gambling. Just a nobody laundromat in the middle of nowhere and not allowed to have a single crane machine in a place children aren't even going to hang out.
>>733809538It is acceptable when you pay your taxes. New York was against sports betting, until they started to tax it.
>>733809538>Why is this bad?valve doesnt have (((shareholders))) and this has to be corrected
>>733809538>I never understand why its so bad that you can cash out your bought cosmetics.Because it means that your fun little gambling "game" is suddenly effectively gambling with real money. I knew multiple other people my age as a teen that got into gambling and scamming people explicitly because the steam market gave tf2 items real value lol
>>733803074Why do you think Gabe spends most of the time on his boats at sea?
>>733802393>he says on 4chin
>>733801806God forbid a child pays to open a lootbox and get something of value back meanwhile lootboxes in othergames give you nothing of value back. Oh god, what if that kid makes a profit with his use of money? Oh the torture.
>>733809724They can collect tax on shit you sell on steam market. Most places have tax laws that say it's fine when you're not making much money selling shit but there will be a line that if you cross the law now declares it "business income" or something similar and you'll have to pay income tax on it.
>>733809971Only 1% of 1% comes green from gambling, retard.
>>733804009OY GEVALT!
>>733809971thisgambling is good, actually
But valve have nothing to do with third party gambling.
Guys, I am literally shaking. My retirement funds are invested in cs skins.
>>733809971child gambling... le good?
>>733805319Valve is at minimum on-par with Nintendo now
>>733800904>That bitch is ugly as FUCKDidn't stop men from fucking her in exchange for career advancements lol.
>>733802074the market has been recovering after the crash and plenty of people pay hundreds to thousands on skins on third party markets.
>>733810168It is good if the child makes a profit!
>>733805653people should be allowed to be high in this clown world
>>733806549Overwatch
>>733808848What does this have to do with lootboxes?????
>>733810210Why don't they ever learn?
>>733810507learn what? they have more money than you do
>>733810628Smart, rich people aren't gambling addicts
>>733810168not gambling
>>733810628Had.
>>733810675They are but they aren't really gambling (:^)
>>733800481Gambling isnt illegal in NY, they just want their "share" of the profits. That's the only thing they care about. Have to find money somehow because everyone sane is leaving New York and only grifters and leeches remain.
don't you need a credit card to even buy loot boxes for Dota2 and CS2? or are they saying kids are robbing stores to trade for steam gift cards?
>>733800662And they should.
the presidents son is on the board of executives for two different gambling platforms, kalshi and polymarket. literally nothing will happen about gambling or betting markets while big donny is in the whitehouse.Its a shame, everyone would love to see crates and lootboxes and battle passes eradicated from gaming.
>>733811508what do battle passes have to do with gambling
>>733808848This whole lawsuit is basically another "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" argument and they don't give a shit about gambling otherwise they would've attacked the other actual malicious corporations pushing it all over the place
>>733804117He isn't delusional. He isn't stating that the market is free, he wants the market to be free, hence why he wants the government to stop intervening. Seenig as Valve is a private company and therefore not under control of shareholder-bullshittery, it pretty much represents what a free market is supposed to be and how an attack on valve that is systemically coordinated is an attack on the concept of a free market, to replace it with a closed market where only long nosed greasy people get to become rich.
>>733800481Valve hasn't complied to their liking with messaging enforcement on their store, and this is the result. The entire loot box moral panic was always fake and gay and this was always the end result. Game design by litigation, a video game comic's code authority that will do to this medium what it did to that one, strangle the life from it worse than diversity hires ever dreamed of.
>>733800481>another impotent attack on ValveYou don't hate jews & their golems enough -__- >"BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREEEN!!"kids don't have banking details
How quick do these lawsuits pan out?Or is it going to be in legal limbo for a couple years?
>>733811597Battle passes require a credit card to purchase, and most of the complaints on /v/ about "gambling" are actually people complaining that they want XYZ skin but Mom won't give them the credit card. So the two become linked by root cause.
>>733811775Valve doesn't have monopoly on online gambling. They are just being made example of. Who do you think is next after Valve's casino falls?
>>733801412The noticing will continue until morale improves
Lots of ((attention)) for Valve recently....
>>733812195Defnitely not the sportsbetting corps lmao
>>733801718Gabe knows that bending the knee to shareholders will kill his company. We'll see what happens after he passes away though.
Gambling is just so disgusting. Shame on anons hiding behind stuff like free market to protect bad actors. Be it your precious Valve or Goldstein, gambling as a business is never okay.
>>733802814> Is seems sus as fuck that Valve of all companies is getting sued and not any of the dozen other games/publishers doing the same thing. Also arent there a new breed of gambling apps like klarna or something that are just digital casinos?Most other publishers wouldn't be on the hook for the conduct alleged in this lawsuit. Part of the elements of laws that apply to this lawsuit is that you can profit with things that have actual real world value, which girls in a gacha game don't actually have.
>>733812402random cosmetics isn't gambling no matter how many times you say that it is.
>>7338012792fort is at least basic enough to treat it as a DM map at best, party map at worst. Meanwhile, there isn't a single good VIP map in TFC.
>>733812487>you can profit with things that have actual real world valueThis is nonsense. People can buy and sell accounts in this or that gacha game based on what it has, there's no more real world value attached to a Counter-Strike skin than to a rare drop in WoW, for which people have paid cash for years and years. I once paid a kid on the bus $20 for his Pokemon Red back in 1999 because he had Mew on it.
>>733803082>you will own nothing and be happy>not even steam games, even though technically you don't own those either.
>>733812547Unless you can then sell them, which is why Valve has a problem here.
>>733812339>Gabe knows that staying on dry land for too long will end up with him and the crew being unceremoniously minecrafted
>>733812662Sell them for what?
>>733800481NIGGER
>>733812612The argument would be that gacha titles explicitly prohibit such account sales in their ToS, while Valve is directly running a player store where the items have value, and you can turn that into Steam Decks to cash out.
>>733800481Good. Valve is 100% responsible for the proliferation of lootboxes and F2P cash cows which have ruined the gaming industry. It tickles me how retards still think that Half-Life 3 is even remotely a possibility while Valve sits on the world's largest unregulated online casino.
LEAVE MY HOBBY ALONE LEFTISTS, DON'T YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO THAN WORRY ABOUT TF2 HATS AND KNIFE SKINS? FUCK OFF
There are like three new casinos being planned to be set up in NYC.And draftkings and their ilk STILL spam their garbage ads everywhere and sponsor every single fucking thing.Why the fuck are these retards doing nothing about them
>>733812547do you think trading cards also hold no value? are you retarded?
>>733812723To quote the law "something of value". You can turn cosmetics into hardware, that is worth something.
>>733812847Are trading cards illegal gambling?
>>733800481>going after a group able to out legal rothschildthis nigga dum lmfao
>>733808848>thinking about the wellbeing of the next generation>in a world where a handful of files existRemember the 6 million.
>>733812771>you can turn that into Steam Decks to cash outI can turn Chuck E Cheese tickets into a gameboy to cash out, that doesn't mean everyone in the world would have correctly looked at you like a busy body retard for pretending it was gambling.
>>733800745Why?
>>733812837gayben forgot to pay them hush money lmao
>>733812870The value is $0
>>733812585Yeah you're right, I'm glad Valve removed content and then focused on selling hats instead of improving the flaws in a game mode.
>>733812889Give it a few years.
>>733812837>Why the fuck are these retards doing nothing about themMoney
>>733812889they definitely can be if theyre marketed towards children and promise them 50000000% return on their investment on a 0,1% chance
>Defeats the Rothchilds only to be humbled by a Black Queenpottery
>>733812970I accept your concession.
>>733812837If Valve is running an unregulated untaxed casino, New York wants it to become a regulated taxed casino.>>733812847There is a reason Wizards never actually explicitly states the value of cards or run a used cards market, because that would be them pretending that they aren't just selling fun toys without different value in their mind. Valve is explicitly breaking through that layer of separation with how their loot boxes are set up.
Honestly SLAY kween. fuck these chuds
>>733813016No concession was offered. Learn how to form sentences without 4chins meme speak, it makes you sound like a faggot. "H-h-heckin based, chad.jpg, cope based seethe kek based!"
>>733800481Americans will do literally anything besides take care of their own crotchlings, huh? This is not a serious country, kek
>>733812994>they definitely can be if theyre marketed towards childrenLike baseball cards going back to the 40s? Or bubble gum with a random toy/comic? It's not gambling no matter how much you say it is.
>>733813062>>733812998>+15 Izzat for this post
>>733812870What law? You said you were quoting a law, so I assume you have one in particular you're talking about.How is 'value' defined in that law?Is the subjectivity of 'value' addressed?
>>733813073Sorry you have no argument left.
This has to be retaliatory action from the kike Rothschilds. Typical jew sore losers.
>>733813104"Think of the children" is an evergreen tactic to get retards to do anything, no matter their politics. Anons will happily support internet real ID because a meme told them something something porn something degenerate, leftists who grew up hating Jack Thompson will now do his bidding because a meme told them something something gambling, etc. We have to childproof the world by making sure Valve is punished for letting people form anti-DEI groups.
>>733813124you pay a price, pull a lever and win or lose real moneyno matter the technicalities its still gambling even its not by the slightest technicality in the current law (and anyone with a brain would see this)
>>733813245>you pay a price, pull a lever and win or lose real moneyYou get a random item and they all have the same value $0. No money is awarded.
>>733813190You won't listen, but I'll try anyways - close the tab and stop coming here. You aren't smart, and this dying porn website is taking a shit in your brain. Because you have no inner monologue everything you read here gets misinterpreted by your brain as your own thoughts, and this makes it extremely easy to program you. You can't even speak normally anymore. People like you were never meant to be online, and certainly not to talk to others. You have got to get out of here while there's still time.
>>733800481>let niggers, jews and other undesirable subversive actors take over your country>they destroy it from insidewoah didn't see that one coming
>>733813062Nothing in the lawsuit actually means anything to court aside from the causes of action. Everything above that is just a platform for the plaintiff to yell about whatever they feel like while covering the elements of the causes of action.
>>733813308Ok. Trading cards still isn't gambling.
>>733800481wall street AAA blackrock studios hate Steam SO FUCKING MUCH omfg - those steamcharts keep them from being able to gaslight the market
>>733813145From the Lawsuit, New York Penal Law § 225.00(2)https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-225-00/>2. “Gambling.” A person engages in gambling when he stakes or risks something of value upon the outcome of a contest of chance or a future contingent event not under his control or influence, upon an agreement or understanding that he will receive something of value in the event of a certain outcome.From later in the law:>6. “Something of value” means any money or property, any token, object or article exchangeable for money or property, or any form of credit or promise directly or indirectly contemplating transfer of money or property or of any interest therein, or involving extension of a service, entertainment or a privilege of playing at a game or scheme without charge.
>Rothschild, New York, and third world nothings suddenly caring about a video game storefront. They cant stand not having any control or even a 000000.1% of profit directly in their pocket.>BUT DEH MADE GAMBEYThis has nothing to do with the fact, they give less of a shit if LeBron is sold in 2k loot boxes, they cant stand the shit being sold for irl money they have no control over.
>>733813306ok, maybe you just dont know but just take a look at csfloat.com and honestly ask yourself if you still dont consider this gamblingon top of that, a knife is 1/400 cases so this means there is a fixed median price in real money for such an ingame item>79.92% Mil-Spec, 15.98% Restricted, 3.20% Classified, 0.64% Covert, and 0.26% Knife/Gloves
>>733800818it's because valve is still a private company and therefore outside the control of wall street and THEY aren't getting a cut of it - can't manipulate data to lie about which games is successful or not - many different reasons THEY hate valve/steam
>>733813471Never said it was, or should be. I said it would be in about ten years because they want to use 'childproof the world' as an angle to censor and control. But because you're meme brained and not very good at reading all that flew over your head so you could struggle to put together enough meme language to form a sentence. Based!
>gambling! It's gambling!So when are you going to go after Stock trading? It's gambling too.
>>733813707Cool it bro
>>733813554Good stuff.I wonder if there's been any precedential cases that'll seal the deal against valve.I'm not a fan of lootboxes or gambling personally, but I hate government regulation more, so I hope valve wins and gets to keep offering gambling to kids in the US.
>>733813705Yes your inner thoughts did fly over my head schizo you're right.
>>733813730But think of all the people who buy stocks and then market rng makes them go bankrupt and they end up in debt to banks and loan companies. Who would just ignore this but attack video games?
>get the sheboon that fucked up the trump case so badly that she was lucky she wasnt disbarred
>>733813910>cant get Trump>goes after his chudgate supportersThis cycle of hate will never end
>>733813565>no control overThey do have control over the credit institutions.Unless gaben is storing value in metals and/or crypto, there's always the 'break glass in case of emergency' action of debanking valve.
Will they try to kill Steam Link and Moonlight?
>>733800818>>733801312>>733813707One was because Valve themselves are stalling the Wolfgaming lawsuit. The other was stolen game controller patent and lost. Now NY sues them.>>733800927Kids can literally just buy a steam gift card from a gas station.They are not the good guys.
>>733813579>csfloat.comThird party site in russia that has nothing to do with Valve, Steam or CSGO.
>>733813871>unable to separate inner thoughts from text clearly expressed right in front of himI see I was right. Once again, close the tab and get far away, not everyone can handle the internet and you're clearly one of them.
>>733813889You're forgetting that it's just about the children.Children don't trade stocks.Therefore it's fine.
>>733800481This is good, fuck lootboxes and lootbox-openers.
>>733814020why would they do that
>>733813856My personal guess is that the courts may eventually rule that a setup like Valve's system is gambling because of the ability to get a payout while a random gacha system isn't gambling (and thus can't be regulated) because there isn't anything of value available to win.It's hard to see Valve's system being immune though, since if green lite by the courts someone else could operate a standard casino with the same setup not tying it to some other random video game.
>>733814065>it's just about the childrenI think the comedy of this world is just too much some times. The same people who are actively shielding pedophiles from prosecution and very concerned with kids engaged in some convoluted gambling scheme in a video game that they can't even access without a credit card, issued to minors never. One can almost picture the Three Stooges entering the stage.
>>733814047>it doesnt count!!!!as long as i can sell an awp dragonlore for 50k usd i dont care what you deem as acceptable or not, its still gambling
>>733814065Nothing about this lawsuit relies on it being children, the lawsuit is New York claiming that Valve is running an unregulated casino which if true under law would be illegal no matter how old the users are.
These kikes are going to descend like a pack of ravenous wolves on Valve when gaben kicks the bucket, aren't they?Gonna install some kike faggot into the big chair, and he'll just so happen to have the grand idea to make the company publicly traded, and the shareholders will become the only important consideration for all future decisions.At least we'll get Half-Life 3. And 4 and 5 and 6. And the spinoffs. And crossovers. Just like MtG.
>>733814098They're going to start coming down on game ownership. It already started with Nintendo Switch 2.They will HATE that you can stream games you legally own, on systems you legally own, using Steam Link and Moonlight.
>>733814162Truly we live in the clutches of evil. I really don't see any kind of relief in the future.>>733814183I was talking about the proposition that stock trading should be considered gambling, not the lawsuit.
>>733806281that last guy sounds like a fascist chud
I think we should kill all children so corrupt politicians stop using them as a cover for their immoral desire to control everything.
>>733814179If you're gambling Valve has nothing to do with it. Just like you can bet your baseball cards with another kid for lunch money but that doesn't mean Topps is running a casino for children.
>>733806281I'll agree that corporations do have some responsibility, and there are cases of egregious behaviors in this space (e.g. Roblox) but obviously this doesn't meet that threshold. This is a thin excuse to punish Valve.
>>733814162Yeah, in this age of abortion and pedophilia, it's always hilarious to see anyone using defense of kids as an excuse for anything.
>>733800481new york has already been a joke
>>733814430i can sell it on the community market and valve gets 15% on top of the fee you have to pay to actually gambleman youre dense as fuck
>>733814183Yes it’s unregulated, other games have percentage listed. Many gacha games can give you a free 5 star or SSS rank character after a certain point. Valve doesnt offer these or tell you anything about the weapon skins you could get.
Bros this is not a good thing.Letitia is one of the DUMBEST fucking AGs NY has ever had.Valve can easily win this and that's bad because this could have been an easy layup to set precedent.
>>733802320epstein files o algo así hombre
>>733814543>i can sell it on the community marketYou receive what exactly? Think it through retard.
I don't mind Valve putting lootboxes in their online games because I don't play their online games and they're using that money to make Steam better, which I use to play regular games. I don't mind the redistribution of funds from compfags to steamworks architecture.That said, lootboxes are objectively wrong so the negress suing Valve is also objectively right. She's, dare I say, based. If you hate on lawmakers who want to fuck over corpos and implement consumer protection, you're retarded.
>>733800481>they have time to sue valve>can't even get more than 600 people in a city of 8,000,000 to shovel snow (paid)joke of a city
>>733814568>Letitia is one of the DUMBEST fucking AGs NY has ever had.qrd??
We have to sue Nintendo. Trading Card packs are gambling!
>>733814546chances are known, china forced them to since they require odds to be shown to gamblers (since gacha games are equally garbage)79.92% Mil-Spec15.98% Restricted3.20% Classified0.64% Covert0.26% Knife/Glovesso in 80% of cases you will lose all money, day trading has better chances
>>733814047Valve’s own lootbox is exactly the same thing. Stop trying to avoid the main problem.
>>733814653She beat our guy :(
>>733814546Other gacha don't really have anything to do with this, the lawsuit is alleging its a casino because you can bet money on items that can be turned into Steam Decks. Without the actual value part, it doesn't run afoul of laws probably written decades ago.
>>733814591NTA but there are grey markets that allow you to extract FIAT currency for CS skins. Some anon outlined how to do it - it's not super straight forward, but if you want to, and put in effort, you can make actual money off of them.Probably an argument to be made in that case that it's mroe like a job than gambling, but then tax implications come in.
>>733814698Valve's lootbox pays you nothing.
>>733800481Why is gambling illegal?
>>733814591moneyi can also sell these items through other sites and earn moneyi can also buy hardware and software directly on steam (so real goods and services, duh)no matter how you turn it its still gambling
>>733814754Yes and you can sell baseball cards on ebay. Still not gambling.
>>733814770Gambling isn't illegal. Allowing children to gamble is. They don't give a fuck the games with lootboxes are rated M and shouldn't be played by children anyway
My solution would be banning all kids from the internet.
Fucking finally.
>>733814760pays in itemsyou can sell for real moneyyou can sell for valve money, that can buy you real goods and servicesits gambling you idiot
>>733801323This>>733801412Silence Jew
>>733814779>moneyNo that's where you're WRONG. YOU GET STEAMBUX AKA NOTHING. YOU GET CHUCK E CHEESE TICKETS$0
>>733814817What do you define gambling as?
>>733800481Just sue the whole fucking videogame industry. If they had the fucking balls to do something they would go straight to federal government to work on anti-gambling laws for videogames. This is just another nothingburguer because who the fuck cares about lawsuits.
>>733800481>rothschilds seething that they lost to gabeSo now they will go for any attack they can.
>>733814887No, you get real money, not steam wallet funds.
>>733814568I don't think Valve easily wins this, simply because of the ability to cash out. It seems like their system meets the definition of gambling alleged here. The lawsuit isn't yelling "loot boxes bad" in the actual charges (even if some of the text before the charges does to that), their office went to demonstrate how to make money from the loot boxes, which is an element that makes it gambling, and are targeting the one publisher with a system that is potentially vulnerable to such a lawsuit because of the real money stuff attached.. >Steam users also can readily convert virtual items to cash by purchasing Steam hardware and then reselling it off platform. Indeed, an OAG investigator did so, converting a Counter-Strike skin called a “Stiletto Knife” to $180 by: (a) selling the skin on the Steam Community Market for Steam Wallet funds, (b) using the Steam Wallet funds received from the sale of the skin to purchase a Steam Deck, and (c) selling the Steam Deck for $180 in cash at a store that buys and sells electronics.
>>733814754>grey markets that allow you to extract FIAT currency for CS skinsNTA but I can do that with almost anything. People have been selling rare MMO drops for cash since Everquest. I could take a picture of your post and sell it as an NFT. The ability to get cash three steps removed isn't really meaningful.
Someone give me the redpill on this. Will we see results this year?
>>733814691The law says it should be presented and be very obvious to the buyer. It’s not doing that.
>>733814942No you do not.
>>733814065will they come after children's Pokemon cards for being worth real money?
>>733814887No that's where you're WRONG. YOU GET STEAMBUX AKA MONEY. YOU GET SOFTWARE, HARDWARE AND CAN SELL THE ITEMS ON THIRD PARTY MARKETS FOR NON-VALVE MONEY
You can argue Valve directly profits off gambling and by doing nothing to curb it, they're compliant. Before some free market tard spergs out, know that there is a legal precedent because many companies in the past used to "overlook" illegal shit because they're profited off it and courts went after their asses. If you want a parallel that's more grounded in everyday life: you're not allowed to just ignore someone in distress if reacting is of no danger to you, even if it's just calling 911. You're not free to just "overlook" such things.
>>733800709all new yorkers are pedos?
>>733814964The result will be a crackdown on Steam reviews, forum posts, curator groups, etc. which target DEI and in-game messaging. This is a pressure tactic meant to bring that about.
>>733814952Thats such hoop jumping though
>>733814968no outside of china, because valve isnt required outside of china to show the oddssome countries like the netherlands just ban lootbox gambling in general
>>733814982YOU CANNOT PAY RENT WITH STEAMBUX lil bro. You have a fistful of chuck e cheese tickets no go pick something from the gift shop.
>>733814760>>733814730Steam Deck is worth at least $500. This is where you are wrong. That itself is enough money to consider a tax return by law.
>>733814817It could be if Topps owned ebay. Do you think the owners of Magic the Gathering stay out of the resale market because there isn't money to be made? There obviously is a ton of money, but if they were involved then they would be much more vulnerable to a gambling lawsuit.
>>733815032YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY PAY RENT WITH STEAMBUX lil bro
Oh fucking greatDoes this mean you wont be able to use steam money on valve hardware anymore
>>733814952>reselling off platformHow is that valve's fault though? If anything this gets shot down by them going after all those online skin casinos.
>>733815083Not without your third party russian sites.
>>733814837Which si the parent's fault. The games are for adults and the kids shouldn't have unrestricted acess to a credit card.>>733815000Yes.
>>733808250They are the ones walking towards the oven out of their own volition. Me? I am doing nothing.
>>733814568>Letitia is one of the DUMBEST fucking AGs NY has ever had.WOAH! AS IF I COULDN'T TELL FROM JUST LOOKING AT HER REPULSIVE MUG
>>733801702Literally hitler
>>733814952Yeah if Valve didn't allow you to sell your skins there wouldn't be a case. They're trying to say the Steam Market/shady skin sites are basically casinos where you can cash out your chips (skins). Whether you agree with that or not is up to you but that's the accusation.
>>733815083that's not steambux then
>>733815130if they werent there there would be forums and people just trading skins from account to account for bank transactionschanges nothing, just makes it more inconvenient to find what youre looking for
>>733814978If they were consistent they would.That said, I'm of the opinion that secondary markets should not be a factor in deciding if something has monetary value or not. If a pack of cardrs is 5 bucks, then the cardboard and ink you receive is 5 bucks worth.
>>733814838Parents can do that. Why should the government and the megacorps be the ones controlling children?
>>733815206i know this will blow your mind, but you can actually exchange steambux for real bux
>>733815114Everything was done on site in that example except selling the Steam Deck off site once Valve shipped it out to them. You would need to argue that a Steam Deck doesn't meet the definition of "something of value" defined in >>733813554
>>733805304Yea and I set mine to April 20th, 1988
>>733815242Here's the catch, if any underage person is caught in the internet, the parents are fined.
>>733815203Cannot the government clamp down on the third party sites?
>>733815325They're hosted outside the US
>>733815297So the government is the one doing the parenting now. Next you are gonna ask their firstborn as tophet tributes.
>>733815382I just don't want annoying kids in the internet. I'd extend the ban to anyone aged over 50 but no shot that will ever happen
New York should sue all video game developers that do that. Not just (one).It's pathetic really.
>>733815360>They're hosted outside the USInterpol?
anti-gacha activists nowhere to be found? every complaint is a confession
>>733815325Third party skin platforms are irrelevant here, since you can meet the requirements entirely through Valve. You can buy the loot box on Valve, sell it on the Steam marketplace, use those funds to buy games or something like a Steam Deck, and then sell the Steam Deck. In the investigation, the only thing done off site in their trial was they couldn't sell the Steam Deck back to Valve, you would need to sell it to something like an electronics store or an online market place.
>>733815432they don't like that Steam is a private company. And won a lawsuit against a Rothschild.so this is the screeching and seething in progress.
>>733815269They can just make it so you cannot buy the Steam Deck with store credits. Then again, why is a child buying so many lootcrates that they can get a Steam Deck from selling skins?
>>733815432No one else big enough set up an operation that is vulnerable to this kind of lawsuit which is why they targeted Steam. The random phone gacha titles might let you spend $500 to get a swimsuit, but that legally doesn't have real world value.
>>733815474That would be like selling toys you get an arcade.
>>733815570>which is why they targeted SteamThat's not why they targeted Steam. You're ignoring the lawsuit victory Steam literally just had. The private company won, and wall street lost. They don't like that.
>>733815268buying items with steambux doesn't count
>>733815570can you trade those swimsuits?
>>733815570Gacha accounts can have real world value you fucking lying kike.
>>733815570This is still the most absurd shit to meWhy are fucking skins and gachashit that are predicated on the same nonsense CS operates at not a problemWhen being able to cash out your skins should be a good thing
>>733815620>it doesnt count because i said so!lol
>>733815542From what I can gather, buying Nekopara with store credit would still be viewed as making a purchase of something with value under the law.
>>733815474It doesn't seem plausible to get your money back from selling lootcrates unless you bought a massive number of them. Which would require access to a fucking credit card.
>>733800481
im pro-gambling, let the hustlers make their moneylet a fool and his money soon be parted
>>733815685It's not that they aren't a problem, it just doesn't appear to violate New York's gambling law.
>>733815719>Which would require access to a fucking credit card.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3z5h8Lanj3A
>>733815624the fact that you can spend hundreds for literally nothing of value seems way more predatory
>>733815692Not really. You are still inside the Steam platform.
>>733815474>Third party skin platforms are irrelevant hereThat's literally what this is all about. You know when streamers open the third party gambling site and spin for hours with big pay days. THAT is the le evil child gambling that people are putting on Valve.Why would anyone interesting in gambling wait for a steam deck to arrive and sell it over using the gambling sites that pay you immediately. The steam deck angle just proves how disingenuous this all is and how you aren't actually concerned about le gambling.
>>733800662>jew yorkNah this is retaliation for embarrassing G*d's chosen people. It has nothing to do with actual loot boxes
IVE SEEN NIND FUCKING SPORTS GAMBLING ADS AND POLY MARKET BULLSHIT THE PAST TWO DAYSCAN THESE NIGGERS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS FIRSTCAN'T EVEN DRIVE OUT TO BUY GROCERIES WITHOUT SEEING A DRAFTKING SHIT
>>733815763Well yes but then you would need to also ban casinos and Wall Street.
>>733815686no different than a kid getting a yoyo at chuck e cheese. If you don't get paid out you aren't gambling.
>>733815686why would you buy steambux just to buy an item to sell for less than you bought it for?
>>733815870Stop being antiseptic
>>733802239EA literally ran ads targeting children for their season packs in Battlefield and Fifa. Not even Valve does that. Valve has a loot box problem because it has a Russians-can-only-make-money-through-this problem
>>733815870oy vey sorry bro they pay taxes
>>733815763yeah but at least kids dont get the impression theyre "investing" in this crap or make money with itsome chinese kid killed himself cause he spent his parents money on cs2 stickers that were pumped and scammers then took his ~100k usd
>>733815908gacha isn't gambling, got it
>>733802535>DID YOU SERIOUSLY JUST SAY "JAK IMAGE" NEXT???
>>733815908but you can get paid, thats the important difference
>>733815956Gacha isn't gambling.
>>733815894I say don't ban any gambling. let the idiots lose their money
>>733815787To rephrase, this particular lawsuit does not appear to be dependent on the existence of third party skin marketplaces, nor does it address the legality of third party market places or the gambling done on (presumably off shore) platforms. The allegations made in this lawsuit would remain a matter for the courts even if no third party platforms existed.
>>733800481The Jews are out for valve lmao Gabe the Jew gets attacked by his own tribe
>>733815956Correct, your anime girl jpegs are worth $0 even if you spin all day and dump $1000 into it.
>>733815953weak kid, it's the parents fault for raising a little bitch
>>733816051Jew? Gabe Newell is a dying breed of pure American entrepreneurship.
>>733815908Don't states usually consider arcades games of skill which technically don't count as gambling?
>buy Yu Gi Oh card pack for 5 dollars>get ultra rare shiny Dragon Dildo Driller card>sell it for 200 dollars>this is gambling now
>>733815782If you ran a lottery where you gave out gift cards, states would consider it gambling. Steam credit would be viewed as the same, no matter what someone spends it on.
>>733816185The difference is Konami won't give you a store where they claim it is worth $200, Valve does.
>say words>shekels revoked
>>733816337There are TCG seocndary markets tho
>>733816337It's called a TRADING card game, you are supposed to trade and sell the cards.
>>733816385Why do you think Wizards of the Coast doesn't actually run those secondary markets though? Because then they would be assigning values to their cards in their random card packs.
>>733816438steam's trading system was created for these skins. it's literally the same thing as TGCs
>>733816545valve doesn't assign value to their skins. that's up to the individual sellers.
>>733816256That's a better argument. Say a supermarket sells loot crates that contain gift cards that can be used in thr same supermarket.Still, children cannot get a credit card without their parents permission. So this would be another case of the government doing parenting and trying to enforce biometric ID.
>>733816642Then why doesn't Valve let the user choose which skin they get instead of making it random?
>>733816685This is purely an illegal gambling case, Valve could be enforcing age verification making sure everyone is 21, and not one detail of the charges actually changes in this case.
>>733816780Valve does sell individual cosmetics. The lootbox is for the thrill of the unknown. Fun, entertainment.
>>733816931Then why don't all the skins have the same chance to drop?Valve is assigning intrinsic value to the skins by making some rarer than others.
>>733816780just buy the skin you want just how you can buy he trading card you want instead of opening packs praying for it
>>733816931oh come on, we all know its gambling to entice you into spending more money than you normally would by just buying it outrightwould you spend 800 bucks for a knife or open 400 cases for 2 bucks with a 0,25% chance for one?
>>733817048We're talking about Valve assigning value to skins.
>>733816997>Then why don't all the skins have the same chance to drop?Because that's boring. All cosmetics have the same value (whatever it cost to open it) whichever one you or someone likes more and the value you place on it is irrelevant.>would you spend 800 bucks for a knife or open 400 cases for 2 bucks with a 0,25% chance for one?I'd spend as much as I was comfortable with for a bit of fun and then move on with my life and enjoy the game with my new cosmetics.
>>733800481of all the people to complain about gambling a black woman
>>733817241>Valve assigning value to skins.valve only assigns values to keys and items on the in-game store. everything else is determined by the individual seller and buyer
>>733815870That sounds really anti-semitic of you anon
