Which class mini-boss do you like the most?
i jumped in my chair
>>733827063Gein because he's the only desert miniboss who's not a complete dickhead.
>RNGslop
Lonesome Road is growing on me.
now we're getting somewhere
>>733827063this is making me want to draw her very obese
Good idea? Bad idea?
damn Jester is broken
>>733828687Vurp+ / Unrestricted + Star is literally a free win on anything. You are permanently invincible.
Swirly eyes
I just saw the Adrenaline mechanic for the first time.Is that only for house bosses?
I dont think I should be giving cat these things
>>733828732Yeah, but waiting to upgrade Vurp only comes online in the last area, where apple would be from the start.I'm just wondering if 2 random disorders is worth +4 all stats and full mana at the start of every fight.Does forbidden fruit keep rerolling disorders? Will it just roll the 'you can't use items' disorder eventually?
>>733828859It's rng. You can't have 2 of the same but you will keep rolling the entire disorder pool until you get fucked by something.
>>733828909Well, fuck that then. I was hoping it would just keep the first two.What about this though? Why shouldn't I just keep using this to farm items and never complete the quest?
>>733829000>Why shouldn't I just keep using this to farm items and never complete the quest?Because side quest items get worn and break, meaning you literally will not be able to complete the quest.
>>733829000Cause of the "Worn" tag that will 50% break it after every run.But yes you should use it to stack gear when you are low but expect it to break after the 2nd run.
>>733829026Quest items come back
What voices do you want for a cat?Personally, I'd like Count Dankula.and Jonathan PickingGive me Nazi Pug and Badger Badger Badger
single turn man on the moon
>>733829114king harkinian
>>733827063I really wish this game had a demo. Can anyone confirm whether the UI/quality of life complaints are real? The core gameplay seems to be something I'd get into, but I don't want to risk the money for the aforementioned issues plus the dogshit art style and humor.
>>733829253All games have free demos for people with an IQ above 85.
>>733829253yeah in general the game has UI issues like HUD elements sometimes blocking info during fights if they're in certain parts of the level and managing a large number of cats at home being basically hopeless even with all the upgrades that are supposed to help you do it unlocked, the game itself is fun as fuck though so these complaints are ultimately pretty minor in my eyes
>some + abilities: -2 mana cost on a 10 mana spell>other + abilities: double the number of times this hits from 4 to 8
how long before i get to the actual eugenics shit and minmaxxing everything?
gata...sexxo...
>>733829253The shitty UI is the only objectively bad thing about the game, and even then it's not the worst thing ever. The community will just bully Steakmund into improving QOL like they did with Isaac.
>99% of the difficulty in this game is just bullshit insta-kill enemies or ones that can eat corpses
Stevens not too bad of a player. Fucked up on bumblefoot who kept killing one of my cats and he carried me to the end of the bunker and beat Johnny.
This smells like an NFT game in the making.
>>733829326Kudos for ignoring the question, smoothbrain faggot.>>733829340>>733829391Thanks guys.
>>733829396check enemy movement range with right click and stop taking slow 12 hp cats that get downed in the first turn before they can move
They should let you bring Gun back home with you
>>733829448say that to bumblefoot
>>733829531okay I cant defend bumblefoot he's arguably my least favorite fight in the game and I'd take Lenny 100x over him
Thank you broken interactions.
So it turns out the effect where enemies you down get automatically zombified works on bosses too leading to a vicious cycle of Johnny summoning an endless supply of cultists to come over and beat the shit out of him
>>733828273I encountered him like six times before I saw any of the other desert bosses so I didn't even realize he was based on a class.
>>733828431Rollin East, West, North, and SouthIMA Cat who prowls alone..
I wonder if some of the radio music was meant to sound like The Aristocats.
Soul link is the single most broken ability in the game
>>733830119soul link is worthless on bosses and bosses are the only hard thing in the game
this old lady refuses to die
>>733829231as far as I know it would be completely pointless but I wonder if anyone has had a run busted enough to kill both hands along with the moon before exhaustion did them inI killed one hand with a thief spamming the 10 nail attack, but it just dies and doesn't enrage the face or anything
>>733830173Just use a hunter with scattershot and champion mask / the scaling passive, soul link everything then let the hunter get the kills to infinite scale. Even better if you get rubber cement on the hunter, then you basically just use scattershot and instarape bosses. the more tile sthey take u th emore damage they take. Haven't seen any chapter 3 or 4 bosses take a turn since i adopted that strategy
>Delirum is still shit>the Rift is gigakino
Miiiiiiiseeeryyyyy
so I died and lost the bubble sidequest itemdoes the guy eventually make a new one for me?
>>733828273People have trouble with Marshmallow?I just hit that bitch from a distance and throw mobs at her.And as soon as I saw Morana the first thing I did was explode every corpse I saw.
The noises in vore cats intro video had my eyebrow detach and go to orbit
>>733830651yep, is a wheel, Eventually it will return to the bubble
>>733830701People neither read nor strategize lmao
>>733830701I rarely take ranged classes because my cats always high-roll strength and it feels like a waste taking ranger or mage a lot of the time.
>>733830913Yeah but you can always take a thief or a necromancer.Thief with teleports is great.Jump behind them with Stalk, hit them with Assassinate, then double-damage basic attack when you're behind them, and then run away.You'll typically hit them for an easy 25+ damage,. and I'm doing this with unoptimized cats.If my cats get shit rolls on their initial skills I just go through Act 1 getting gold and furniture.
>>733830701It reveals that most so called "gamers" can not fucking read
>press scatter shot>rubber shot>boss dies in first turn from 450 to 0I don't know what this boss does
I don't think most bosses are hard but that thief cat in the desert with Flip is just annoying. Like he isn't difficult but fuck is it a really annoying fight sometimes.
>>733831337None of the minibosses are hard they just waste your fucking time.
i think the whole "unavoidable event that gives your best cat a crippling debilitation" thing wouldn't be so bad if the map wasn't just a mostly linear straight linethey should've just copied slay the spire and given you multiple paths that criss-cross between eachother
THEM BONESTHEM BONESTHEM KITTY BONES
>>733831380In the desert I feel like it's worth going to the first shop even if you almost never have money for it simply because it avoids one of the fucking event tiles that your starting stats are usually too low to deal with
kind of wish there was an Isaac version of this game
>event that copied all my equip items>was running two monksNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>the godzilla like battle lyricsholy shit
>>733831457>>733831380>being a luckletstop breeding cats with 3 luck and the events will stop assraping you if you get bad events it's because you're already failing a skill check during the event selection process
>>733831559doesn't the game literally just arbitrarily punish you with always-bad events if you're doing too good?
so what's more likely to change in future updates?
>>733831505>check the translation>it's literally just asking you to brush your teeth
Fuckers can I get away with having negative health in my fuckroom?
does onions milk make the bird do 1 damage?
>>733831583Edmund hates fun and loves nerfsrip krampus headrip stopwatch
>>733831281Happened to me with Tina 3. Had a thief with Flip a Coin+ and Swift Looter, while wearing a Coin Purse and Ninja Headband. Finished turn 1 with over 200 luck and dex, and basic attack refreshed every time I used it because of the headband and luck combined. I even overprepared with items on everyone just for my thief to finish the fight on his first turn.
>>733831583mage100% mageThey need to make it useful
ADRZ6-8IBFQ-PPT2QA wild & free steam code
>>733831490what
>>733831583Hunter gets nerfed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KXR-fBQ-jQI can't point out all the changes they did to the look and feel of this game but you can tell.
>doing another lab run>fighting the jester mini-boss for the first time>he goes first despite my +7 speed cats bred for combat>first thing he does is cast a forbidden spell that gives madness to my entire team for 3 rounds>team proceeds to slaughter each other and never hit the boss>my first actual non-intentional full team-wipe after 100 hours of playingHoly shit, that was some goddamn bullshit. Thank god these were just random (but good) cats with disposable gear I was taking to get Butch upgrades. I would be pissed if I had some kind of perfect cat I was trying to breed die this way.I can now symphatize with those anons who complain about getting aids or madness on the first event on their best cat. This is the first real pure BS the game has thrown at me despite playing for so long.
one of my cats got dildoed but attacking him didnt seem to do anything to dislodge it
>>733831760>Hearts around dildo iconAnon...
so why doesn't cleric's melee attack trigger thorns on allies
>>733831891why not just be grateful edmund was merciful and made it so cleric's basic attack doesn't trigger them or apply debuffs even if the cat has a passive that makes it debuff enemies
>oh boy, time to try my first run to the moon!>In the desert, my butcher has stockholm syndrome and moves toward a death worm as it goes underground to get instantly eatenEPIC
>>733831998Should have chewed the steak harder
>>733831734I must be some unlucky motherfucker because I’ve encountered these kinds of bs happenings way too often and I have the same hours as you
>>733831704glad they dropped that old font
So the sharks in sewers are impossible to beat without a way to hit them with bleed or electricity. Cool.
>first all 7>She's ugly as fuckSigh, anyways I have a few other kittens who are just 1 away so it'll be okayWelcome, Bellhop
>>733832160druid can be offense too anon.Werecat builds exist
>>733831923I have a mutation that causes my basic attack to apply poison and it's making my cleric apply poison to its allies
>>733832243he can get crazy with the summons but it's not something you wanna rely on for offense
>>733832250thats weird because I swear I had a basic attack applies burning passive and it didnt make my allies burn, but maybe that one was specially made for cleric and the poison one wasn't
>>733832250I want to do offensive druid builds more but his support abilities are already so nice that it kind of feels like a waste not to focus them
Fuckers I got the Uzumaki Hole event thingy, do I go with my best or my worst stat?
king bunga is gay
>>733832160Most useless tier list of all time award
>>733832158What? Doesn't bleed give them extra turns?
>>733832395where's your super useful tier list anon?
>>733832428it does but they also target anything with bleed including one of their own
I feel like the game is too tilted towards one shot builds and punishes grinder playstyle way too hard, in other games of this style usually the game finds a way to force you to slow down which balances things out.
>>733832378He's vastly more fun than Mr H on the basis that he doesn't take an entire afternoon to kill
what game speed do you guys play at?
>>733832269No werewolf + encoreSing a song you refresh your double melee repeat this until you are out of mana
Do I dare?
>>733832269The lion rapes the small dog
I got Sonichu medallion in Alley's hard route
>>733832771You have to use it now.
>>733832160Iv done an offensive cleric before
>the moon summons aliens tooThis fight is horrible now all my cats are probed and I’m out of save scums.
>>733829667There's a hardmode?
>>733832945Yes, and all the best shit in the game is locked behind re-beating everything on it.
>>733832945Hope you enjoy double elite champion daddy shark
there is a 50 foot tall kaiju stomping outside my house, how the fuck do i get rid of it?
>>733832798I'll save it for a scatological cat
>>733832749Five is kind of ass. Bonus attack with your burn paws might not be awful.
>>733833002Throw an inbred cat at it
>>733832996That's not locked behind hard mode. I got that on a normal mode. Instantly killed my run, nothing I could do.
>>733833002The quest will be escorting the kaiju to the loser kaiju's domain
>>733833025Five is amazing on the right build. I had a self harm build with five once which involved getting a million kinetic sparkles on the mage with a bunch of armor and holy barrier. Hitting it a few times just cleared the screen. Super fun.
bros I fucking HATE blood frenzy
>>733833161Blood frenzy isn't the problen, Psychosis is. Just position your cat at the backline so their nearest targets are enemies when you think they will frenzy
>thief randomly rolls the tail mutation that gives you a free reroll every level up>desperately want to propagate it>gets killed in a fight right when I return homeeasy come easy go...
>>733833047Hope you enjoy triple elite champion daddy shark
>>733829253There is always someone with autism answering your question on YouTube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmeP1lO_zsg
>>733833260What I have found is that early game mutations are hard to get but easy to propergate but late game mutations are easy to get but hard to propergate.
>have a cat with a ton of cool mutations>he's in love with his own mothernigga
>Cancer>All of my retards have at least 2 mutationsDid I fuck myself up with the stats down? My cleric has like, 1 of mobility
>>733833247>Just position your cat at the backlineits my cleric
>clear the first area of act 3 >professor tells me to go do the secret area in act 1wtf I did that ages ago?
>>733833354Do it again chud
>>733833354You need the King's heart. The prof gives you a box to bring with you for it
>>733828419>little timmy mad he rolled low at birth
i just unlocked the caves and i gotta say i've never had this much fun with a tactical rpg before, i always drop them because of how fucking boring they are, but the comically edgy shit you can pull off in this game and the absolutely incredible soundtrack have me grabbed by the nuts, it's so fucking goodflush is so far the best track in the game i gotta say, it's so so fucking good, i can only imagine it gets downhill after this because i can't imagine how you can top a song about being a log of shit in the sewers piling shit on top of shit forever while you battle an obese bloated drowned monstrosity of a cat
>cleric passive to inflict holy damage when allies are killed>necromancer with almost any form of familiar summon or other class spawning maggots or fleasThis has carried me past just about every boss including throbbing king. I need to look at breeding for passives at somepoint
>>733833354>>733833391Oh yeah, bring a cat that can desecrate corpses to make it easier
>>733833456>flush is so far the best track in the game i gotta say, it's so so fucking good, i can only imagine it gets downhill after this because i can't imagine how you can top a song about being a log of shit in the sewers piling shit on top of shitI thought that at first but you will get some good scores late game too
Did a 3 cat run with 30 luck across the team and killing everything round 1 but I was only getting 1 penny from battle rewards.
>>733833564should've killed everything in 0 rounds baka
>>733833564Does luck actually do anything meaningfull aside from reward drops?
>>733833598Luck affects literally everything.
>>733833598Luck improves your odds of beneficial dice rolls in general. The biggest one is that high luck stat will make your random events better.
>>733833598luck affects all the RNG related status effects and abilities. Confusion, accuracy, crits and dodge chance are all affected by luck. Many abilities also are bigly buffed by luck, like fury swipes which can hit many times in a row with high luck.
Just lost a run because amoebas can pick up the man in the moon. 2 hour run just gone. Unfun, unfair mechanic, needs patching asap. I shouldnt be fucked because I got an ally.
>>733833689SOVL but also EDMUND
I didn't think pyrophina 1 would have that much health but I had forbidden flood so
i just opened the box and it brought me to a mini boss fight with this thing from hellraiser? what on earth kek, has anyone else gotten this? i didn't even know events could initiate a combat. any other examples?
>>733833598https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF7Ub1Z-LZg
>>733833732Ive seen the lament configuration but never got that result. There's a grim reaper miniboss that comes from the event.
>>733833598My cats have a double mouth face, 10% to refresh their attack.With high luck, that 10% feels like 80%.
>>733833689Happened to me to yesterday. My whole team was fucked from the start anyway. Only won cuz my cleric gave holy shield and sparkles to my butcher (butcher sucks ass).
>>733833598My understanding is that every point in luck gives you a cumulative 20% chance for an extra roll and you take the best one. Anecdotal I know, but I did once have around 200 luck and a 10% chance item proc'ed five times in a row.
>>7338338031 point of luck is 10 percent chance of an extra roll
>>733833707>>733833794Wouldnt sting as hard if Crater wasn't harder than the moon by a mile. It needs toning down, the second area shouldn't be harder than the third.
>>733833732Only had it happen with chupacabra twice. I think it comes from the one where there's eyes looking at you from a bush. I wanna say it happened in boneyard and maybe desert, I can't remember exactly.
>>733833640>>733833803>my cats' gene pool is 95% luckletsfuck my life
>First encounter in a run>Get a debilitating parasite that completely fucks the runCool.Good design.Love it.Amazing.That is truly great game design.Fantastic.Amazing.I should've played better.
>>733833926Throw one 7 in there and do some low level culling and it spreads like AIDS. I did it with strength and now all my inbred freaks are coming out with 6s and 7s.
>>733833983So far I'd consider Mewgenics worse than Isaac, simply because it's so slow, and one wrong effect just fucks a run, there is not point in trying.Oh woops your main damage dealer has uncurable madness? Get fucked.
>>733827063omg.... this is CUTEShe deserves ALL the tuna ;~;
>>733833824It was crazy, I was afraid to going to the Moon after the Crater Maker was going ham, and I retired a pretty good team. Then finally went in with the next team and it was a walk in the park pretty much (had an op squirrel druid though) in comparison to the Crater.I liked the Man in the Moon boss fight a lot too.
>Charms you
>>733833824Is the crater boss harder than the moon man?
>>733834026Like maybe, tone down the Boss of Crater, less health, something, because comparing him yo Johnny is a fucking joke.>>733834082About the same, which it shouldn't be. Moon is also easier or the same difficulty at times compared to crater, which it shouldn't be, it should be harder.
>>733833732I've had to fight a bear and a zombie.
>>733828127what the fuck happened
>>733833648>which can hit many times in a row with high luck.I tried buffing my cat with like 30+ luck and it only attacked 6 times in a row. seems like it's exponentially less likely.
>Vurp and Spin to Win in the same butcherOh yeah, it's breeding timeCan't wait to check if Spin to Win Monk is as OP as I suspect
>>733833732It's a free level. Good event.
Are the key quest items priority on the rotation because I just lost one
>Marshmallow 15 minutes after adoption
>>733833824Crater can go suck a dick. Even with a decently good team, you can get fucked over in 2 turns without knowing how you could've prevented it. That's just the normal path too.Core i have similar issues but with only very certain hard path rooms. There's one with four pitchfork guys and a spell caster all grouped up. You spawn opposite of them and would have to cross lava. No matter what i did the 3 times i encountered it, it always wiped my team.>>733834026Same, but moon is a cake walk compared to all other levels in Act II. Crater maker is only easy if you have to use alien overgrowth and can consistently cycle to his dash on the second cycle (same turn)
>>733834324Main Quest items return to inventory.
>>733834490thank god
>>733834448>Crater can go suck a dick. Even with a decently good team, you can get fucked over in 2 turns without knowing how you could've prevented it.Anything with armor piercing makes it easy, thief is a good choice for act 2
When will the honeymoon phase end?
>>733834536when people stop posting about marshmallow
>>733834531And then if i do that he moves just enough to kill my cats with his retarded side blast that also poisons. Ugh.
>>733833732I think dust devil was a fight that was turned into an event sometime in development. I haven't seen it myself, but I assume if you fail his event, you have to fight him too.
>>733834531Thief is, beside Psychic, my top picked class. I do run Hunter a lot, though i seem to not be able to make him do insane damage like people say he easily can.
>>733834536when did it end for isaac? not counting ab+
God bumblefoot is such a shit fight
>>733834560The boss? Stack poison/burn/bleed on him and stay away. Confusion too. Any debuffs.
>>733834601What do I need to make psychic good?
Just got to The Throbbing King and absolutely shit down his throat. That felt really, really good.The MVPs. I also had a Cleric, but they were mostly there to give these two mana. Merciless+ is insane.
>>733834649mobility and reroll cuz fuck those glass based skills.You're either gonna enable your team or be the cat that could've done it all on their own.
I hate this fucking retard nigger desert necromancer miniboss cat so much.
I HATE SORTHING THROUGH MY ITEMS AFTER EVERY RUN AT LEAST LET ME SELL THE SHIT I DONT NEED
>>733834649Luck lol. That one spell they can get that lets another cat go again on the same round is amazing
>>733834649Wait for the blank collar to turn into a psychic, run two psychics and force the enemies to enjoy your floating glass slide park as you push and pull them around 10 times per turn.Or if you don't get any gravity spells then good luck next time lol
>your basic attack's damage is increased by your lowest stat minus 2>druid's heal is now excellentebin, too many things rely on items though
>>733834082>>733834141Moon Man is a puzzle you can bypass with high HP cat going into the mouth. The cat will take few point damage per Moon Man's turn but gets special command to make hands launch at the face. Even if you dont have high HP cat the normal way is to rotate and launch the hands at the face. That's why the moon midboss can cause injuries because in the main boss your stats don't matter that much
>>733834787Items are easy to get anon...
>>733834601>Psychicnice to see some other off-meta favorites, I'm a sucker for tinkerer because when you get any synergy rolling it just rapes everything into a pile of mush. I can't use him much now because I've cleared everything I've unlocked with it. Monk is probably my follow up, but psychic kicks ass too when the stars align.
is Emo Wig actually based and I'm too much of a brainlet to get it
>>733834859200 hours in I've never seen this item, am I meant to know what it is?
TOUGH TOUGHGOT TO BE TOUGH
>>733834941Do your fucking quests
>>733834998fuck no
>>733835020>No coins>No access to the most broken shit the game have to offer>No item selectionCoward
>dr fetus hat with the fighter passive that makes their weapons deal triple damage
>>733834998But they hurt so much.
>>733835020You're just leaving coins on the table.
>>733835141Some of them are insanely broken this work with rerolls btw so you can rerolls a selection of 4 items until you get what you needed
>>733835110>No access to the most broken shit the game have to offer>robo ass that inflicts poison 1 on all enemiesyey
When/where do I get the sidequest to bring something to the hell obelisk?
What are some must have unlocks?
>>733835174Guns exist anon.Guns exist
>>733835196need to do the pyra/asteroid pig fight
>>733835196Zaratana defense.
>>733835203Level 3 house and just about every tink unlock
>>733835269I meant items/class abilities
>>7338352690 int
>>733835298collarless unlocks are alwasy welcomed All stats up
A tangled mess inside your head, a crushing sense of looming dread.Brain is full of dust and bats, it's no use like herding cats!Scream in vain to stop the pain, that only skin and bone remain.Wish the madness would just stop, but at the bottom you find the top!
guess we're making squirrels now
>""blind" tarantula fag trample dashes the necromancer, turns 360 degrees, walks an l shape directly to the ass of my thief, and knocks him unconscious
>>733833732I had it once very early in a run with shit cats and got my ass kicked lol
>>733835347yeah theres something sussy with those 'blind' enemies, but I suppose its necessary in a sense or they'd be trivial.you just can't treat them like their blind or they'll finger your asshole
>>733835413>>733835347all blind does is 30% chance to miss.
Is Tay the guy on the radio? >Didn't open with "And we are live"
Is there way to tell the range of the abilities or is it affected by cats stats? I took the lightning bolt thinking that the mage would be less useless and having to go face to face to enemies cause pitiful range but the lighthning bolt just has the same range as the basic attack? I know some skills say that they have infinite range but others make no mention of it.
>>733833732yeah I've fought him twice, first time he decimated my team.>>733834564not sure about the fight, but if you pass the event with very high charisma, I think? he joins you. He's shit though, just like the rabbit.
>>733835465>Is there way to tell the range of the abilities or is it affected by cats statsNo and no. Range is usually 4 but there are inexplicably shorter range abilities that don't have it anywhere in their description.
>>733834564I had the dust devil join my party, it was kinda funny. I wish we could recruit other bosses too like the mini boss cats like Marshmallow
>>733835525Just get a necromancer with eternal servitude
only have 3 veteran cat to defend the house again c-1000 so i throw in some random shitter with a deathscythe>c-1000 then copy it then imdiately died after using the deathscytheeasiest cheese ever
who had a fucking locket with a picture of isaac in it holy shit Im actually going to cry dude
>>733835514This seems like oversight, it should really tell you the ability range. I really thought the lightning bolt would have longer range.
>>733835545>Eternal Servitude>Resurrect an enemy body to full HP. It joins your team.>Reanimate>Resurrect a body to half HP. It becomes a Zombie and joins your team.>Only Eternal Servitude makes your resurrected enemy joins permanently.???????????
Druid forms stack, they are just +buffs on you, and "the form of X" ability retains its secondary feature.I used this to have an unkillable turtle with elk speed, to walk across the whole map and apply bruise+a billion thorns 10x times a turn as I walked all over every enemy to death with trample, which procs on contact status like thorns.
I HATE stemcell cats. A hard encounter with them is legit harder than any other act boss.
>>733835324I got this one as a stray earlier. Actually just a dog.
>>733835696I've literally never had a problem with them
my mage just got offered mini-me but has forbidden fart, wat do?i don't actually know what the fart does when you use it
>>733835710
>>733835746It's a giant nuke around you with knockback + poison. But forbidden skills give you a random disorder after using it. Mini-me could abuse it for free as they respawns every combat with your current stats, so as long as your original cat never uses it there is no downside.However mini-mes can be stupid and will AoE your own team.
>>733835746Gives a disease/affliction to the user.Since mini-me makes a fresh copy every fight it shouldn't matter.
>>733835597I think they should totally show a pop-up of an ability's range when you hover over it on skill select and the equipment screen, but arbitrary range limits hit mage the worst of all. There's no reason half of their average skills should be limited to like three range with no way to improve it. Most of the skills with restricted range aren't even strong enough to justify it.
>>733835545Can you get the minibosses with that necromancer guilt skill or do they still count as bosses? I guess you would need to spawn some enemies if you want to recruit the miniboss cats with eternal servitude cause the map just ends after you murder the boss.
Entangle applies multiple entaglement on big enemies depending how many tiles of the enemy it hits
>>733835802Yeah mages have the most bizarrely short range on almost everything.I swear the tinker can just throw shit further than they can cast.
DOWN WITH THE DEVILDOWN WITH THE DEVIL
>>733835802This is the reason I always pick Psychic instead of mage, at least I know almost all of their skills have the visual range description. As in you must see the enemy, and many of the skills become insanely broken once you get the passive that makes you ignore the visual range too cause then all abilities are just map wide.
>>733835836You can't bring her home anon
RIGHT ON YOUR NUTS AND ON YOUR NIPPLES
>>733835921Psychic is just straight up a better mage tbqh
>>733835882How can 1 skill be so overpowered I swear to god
>>733833456Just about every song in this soundtrack is amazing except for like one or two of the radio songs (which are just "okay").If Ridiculon don't win some kind of award for this it'd be a travesty.
>>733836132It's easy, it just has to be on a class not called Mage.
>>733836245Meow meow meow meow meow meow-Meow meow meow moew meow
>>733833456bunker and core's songs are great too
>Fuck around because apparently Jester gets a super version of metronome>have to go home after core because it gets Perma madness and depression after it uses forbidden flame and flood sequentially Fun skill, trying to breed it into more cats
>>733836345
Best way to breed skills? I have been focusing only on stats and mutations for a while now
I wish mage's default attack worked more like ranger's
>>733836452impregnate the cats yourself
DARE I?
no worse feeling than pussing out and ending the run early even though continuing would be retarded
>>733836550>that skill lineupmight as well
>>733836550It will be really funny to see Mini-me kill herself, do it.
>>733836550Is there any feasible way to use that outside of Mini Me?>cat actually has Mini MeWell now you have to.
>>733835882King gets no turns
>>733831760Gotta attack him from behind
>>733836605Nah, It's a tactical decision, part of the game.Can't feel bad about it.
>>733836658Just lost to this faggot NIGGER cause he has the restore 16 shields each turn buff which also causes the fucking CLOTSNIGGERS that he summons to also have this fucking buff. what a fucking joke. Genuinely had the strongest cats ive ever seen job to this gay shit
i fucking hate the sidequestsi fucking hate themfailing them and having to try again in another run, fine, mistakes happen, its a learning experience.losing the item on top of that and having to cycle through sidequests ive already fucking done just for one more shot? what purpose does this serve in terms of game design?
>>733836757Chew your fucking steak
How do we fix mage?
>>733836815Get players to accept that cats are disposable and use forbidden spells
What kind of content is locked behind hard mode? Any exclusive boss?
>>733836754>justi saw this screenshot before. gtfo.
SOMEWHERE BEYOND THE MOONGOODBYE GOODBYE GOODBYE
I began with never save scumming but around 70 hours im starting to get the itch for it when I fail a run that was 3 hours long
>>733836840Most of them aren't even that good.
>>733836757wait, you can get repeated sidequests you've already done before you get the one you previously messed up? Are the sidequests even worth it? I feel like I'm taking sooo long progression the main game while messing around with side shit and breeding goals that I should just keep bumrushing progression.
I think you should be able to pick from two passives and actives to start>b-butdon't care
>>733836867I posted it yesterday and i alt f4ed. I attempted the run with steven AI-ing the fight like 10 times. Its unwinnable. I just logged on after work and reposted it when i opened this thread. >proofs
>>733836815Remove the half of the toolkit that is >gain +1 damage, but injure yourself>Gain +1 damage, if you end your turn with 4 mp, while surrounded by enemies, with a stick up your ass>random variance of teleport to tile>gain mana, kill yourself in return
>>733836938bro I had this exact same modifier with 4 collarless cats and I still managed to beat itmaybe ur just bad
I missed Ed's artstyle so much, I hope he doesn't drop it in future games.
>>733836945>be mage>have fire wall>my master plan is to bait foes into it so they get a stack of burn>im already de
speaking of this games soundtrack, its given me an appreciation for genres I don't usually fuck with.
>>733837003sure >
>>733836945Mage is so cucked dude. Compare it to simple shit like, huddle, stimulants (or any of the 20 other buffs cleric can give), and thief self buffs. They get better buffs without any of the effort.
>>733836945>gain +1 damage, but injure yourselfits +3 damage and if you have a means to mitigate injury its one of the best mage skills there is
Aaaah fuck the rift boss. Why the fuck can he get a passive like bouncing back projectiles. Fucking killed my highest damage cat in a single turn with it, and then I had to hobble my way trough the rest of the fight.
>>733837023:)okay different modifier but I had that modifier before
fuck gameplay i cant wait for dlc because that means i get MORE MUSIC
>stealth event just before lord bungaare you fucking kidding me man
>>733837056oh ya that mage will be godly for one or two runs before the item breaks, then don't touch the class again until you get another one.buff the fucking mage, collarless cats are more reliable
>>733837056Wow. Now my 7mana spell does 7 damage.
>>733837127you can cast it repeatedly on a single turn
>>733836245OH, HE'S THE KINGWE'RE ALL EXPECTED TO KISS THE RINGSITTING ON HIS THRONELAUGHING BOUT HOW HE MADE IT HIS HOME
fuck you bitchi hate you bitch
Mage sucks but if you get the mage fur mutation you can get some insane builds with tanks, clerics or necromancers getting acess to forbidden spells or general aoe.
>>733836309>Nip+ with 2 levels of bruise and 1 pip of damage>Skullcracker gives him free bruise on basic attack>friendly ranger with markedCan confirm, this shit is busted as hell. Just carried my Putrid Leech run
>>733835908MAYBE I'VE BEEN HERE TOO LONGIS KISSING MY SISTER SO WRONGWE MIGHT MAKE A COUPLE NITWITSWE'LL GET A FEW MUTANTS OUT OF IT
oh wow this one looks almost normal
ALL HAIL THE WIZARD KING
>wokegenics
Mage toolkit:>5% great skills, take them every turn>5% good skills>30% usable, but mediocre when compared to other classes>50% way too situational, requiring 1-3 specific bits of passives/actives/equipment synergies to make work>10% bad, never take
>>733835607I NEED TO PET HER RIGHT FUCKING NOW
We're so happy being deadNo more itchy scratchy head :]
>>733837363Dont worry give it 2 years and the left will agree with hitler while the right surrender their souls to the wall.then this become chudgenics
Is Dr. Mangler a reference to Josef Mengele?
I'm giving one cat the injury immunity vest and the veil that grants a permanent stat boost on being downed, then bringing a resurrection cleric and killing my own cat every round.
YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER NUMBERAND NUMBER TWO IS YOUR NAME!
What mewgenics boss and items will Ed add to Isaac?
>>733837523Make sure to return back with a picture of your suicide-king cat
It feels like 90% of the battles are just range checks. If you have 2 cats with ranged attacks with good damage you can get through most fights without even getting hit once. I barely even take fighters. Tanks at least have abitilies to actually redirect damage or control enemies. Fighters barely have health above a ranger and need to spend at least 1 turn on just movement and can just fucking die before they even get to damage someone. Or die right after.It's so bad I noticed that on some arenas it's 10 times easier to win if you don't move at all until you kill most enemies. Melee are just stand there awkwardly while ranged cats kill everyone.
>>733827063What does she want bros?
>>733837667petting
>>733837667Milk
>>733837654Butcher is the better fighter, he can tank and dish out dmg
>>733837654Either that or a speed check where if your fighter can't go across the map and smack a unit for 12 damage immediately then the entire battle starts slipping away from your controlI think this is why everyone considers Hunter so powerful, it's less his builds and more that ranged attacks are more forgiving then melee in this game especially with the occassional instakill enemy
>Hitler badHow come nobody makes fun of Stalin or something else?
>>733837649wonderful
>100 hours in>Fun just suddenly vanishesIts just busy work now. Just endless busy work only to have my cats get instantly killed because 'Oops your Butcher cat started off with Harpoon and Harpooned an enemy which instant kills you if you're next to them.'I'm sure they'll fix alot of the bullshit and add QOL stuff later but fuck man. I dont even want to do the final House boss now.
>>733837690
>>733837778I kinda like the absurdity of Hitler becoming a recurring villain in the final act of a video game about cats.
>>733837901hard mode in isaac never felt as antifun as hard mode in mewgenics does but I guess that game had runs that capped out at 50 minutes if you were going slow so it's inevitable that applying the roguelite format to something with 2 or 3 hour runs is even more gutwrenching when something goes wrong, I need to take a break from this shit
What does the purple/pink/blue gay flag mean?
>>733837957Bisexual
>>733836897yes, you have to cycle through to find the item you failed before, and depending on how many items you have left, you may be forced to sift through dozens of sidequest items and donate close to a hundred cats before being able to retry the one you failed 20 hours ago.
>>733837901Have you tried playing other classes maybe buildin them up anon?Late game relies on you having good starting cat to not get raped SPECIALLY in hard mode
>>733837989You can get quest for quest you already completed funny enough.So you can earn quest items again
>>733837778Stalin effectively killed way more people but Hitler killed the "wrong" people. Hitler's kill count is actually really small compared to some monsters in China too.
>>733837908We need a 3rd hitler fightBut he become a cat
>>733838073Hitler is only a big deal in the west because it's the only instance of westerners genociding other westerners. Asia and Africa probably have dozens of genocidal figures that they become dime a dozen.
>>733838073Stalin killed whites (slav) and mao killed asians. So nobody cares. Hitler made the mistake that fighting for his own people negatively impacted the chosen ones.
just fought the spewer for the first time (had gotten stacey every time before)what the FUCK was that
>>733838073Stalin ruled for much longer to be fair, idk how many either killed daily on average. I'm neither a tankie or a nazi so I don't really give a shit
>>733837454Was disappointed to realise that this just a straight up vocal cover of a real song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyknBTm_YyM
All these fucking collar tier listWhat about a stats tierlist?Obviously speed and luck is S tiers but what about the rest?
>>733838376>Obviously speedHA
>>733837161So can a fighter and their spells deal 7 dmg base + str scaling
>>733838234Yeah, that boss is a bit strong. Probably the strongest boss in the Lab honestly. And if you have sparkle thorns you get fucked.>>733838376CON is obviously #1, man, the fuck you talking about.
Do have you all been collaring based on fixing weaknesses to balance or accentuating strengths to min max?
>>733838376There are so many ways to increase your cats' damage output that sometimes STR and DEX don't feel very impactful.
you can probably avoid solo and quad class marks overriding each other if you do only quad marks on one save file and only solo on anothermaybe ill be able to autistically collect them after all
>>733838441I usually min max but if there is a cat with a good mutation I will slap a class on best suited for it regardless of stats. I often give my best charisma stat cat to necromancer but I always run cleric alongside that often gets the worst of the stat cats.
>>733838376Luck SS+ tierCon and speed S tierI'd say the other stats are too hard to rank because their usefulness relies too much on the class they're on, but str and dex are probably the least useful in a vacuum
>>733831607That's asking for disease.
>>733837654Sometimes you get a busted fighter that refreshes his attack and has movement spells that just dominates battles in 1 round
>>733838575I wish we could see how much each luck point is affecting rng when hovering over hit and dodge chances in grass, heavy shots, crits etc
>>733831607Yes. You might even get some good ones but it's usually best to go with clean
>>733835836The tank one with her kitten squad is probably the easiest, but you'd still need to line up the timing to have your necromancer do it before the kittens run away after she goes down
Can you do anything about low libido cats? Can it be circumvented by high comfort?
>>733838635I think it's like a +20% chance of rerolling for an additional better result with each luck point above 6? And it picks the best result out of all these rolls. Luck also works for events, chances of getting hit when confused, breaking armor, even the fucking content of shops while on missions is dictated by the luck of your cats
what does -luck do an enemy? It's not affecting crits really
>>733838979Lesser chance of dodging (even in grass) and higher chance of hitting itself if confused, maybe other stuff I'm not aware of as well
>>733838425How is speed not S tier
>>733838635Luck are just chance of rerolling the action to be advantageous to the unit rolling it anon15 luck means you always roll with an advantage
>>733838719The Tank boss if made ally runs away the first turn because there are no kittens of her. Dunno if she stays if you have kitten in your team, but got her in my team.Also the Radical Rat boss makes a bad ally
>>733827063>>733837667sex with human men.
>>733828431F5 and Captcha are my friendsUntil this thread is at an end
Ugly game, hideous game.
>>733839520I have 3000h in Isaac
Just did an Uranium Rod Mutation run while rotating the Glitch item between my cats to learn moves for breeding. And look at these absolute units. Granted they are not 100% perfect and some of them are a bit old but they were the best candidates. Next time I'll do this even better with younger cats.>lots of mutations all around, especially the last cat>everyone has great moves, insta-kills, lifestealing, multi-hits, all that good shit>lots of great passives too, some are amazing like the extra turn and 100% crit ones>couple of nice utility moves too like vacuumI'm particularly excited about breeding Gilbert Garfield. He doesn't have a single bad ability or passive. Every single one of them is fantastic for collarless runs in particular. Wheter it's a high damage attack, cleanse, protection, ability to heal with basic attack, you name it. Thanks for reading my blog.
How do you even kill Dybbuk while using Angry Face, do I just specifically pick a shitty cat for it?
>>733838916Best thing you can do is surround it with opposite sex cats. Comfort doesn't actually do much for low libido
>>733839565Isaac, even flash Isaac, looked better than this. The game is genuinely heinously bad aesthetically. Noone could possibly be playing this game for the look of it. The roguelike strategy part is what is appealing. You ignore the rest. You ignore the sad attempts at humour and the disgusting shit that makes you think Edmund should probably have his harddrive looked at by the police, you ignore everything except the actual gameplay.
>>733839696>Edmund should probably have his harddrive looked at by the policeLike what?
>Get the best mage cat I've ever obtained>Tail end of run>Forced-event Cordyceps cursed item, not even a choice to say no>50% of his turns are now just him running into an enemy and instantly getting obliterated>Would have been perfect for first guillotina kill but now he's fucking uselessGod I can't fucking stand Edmund and his fixation of "Oops get fucked" mechanics
>>733839781Like all of it. You think the whole thing is done ironically and then you listen to the man do an interview and holy shit he actually is disturbed. Check his browser histories.
>>733834947HE'S DUMBDUMB AS ROCKS!
>>733839596Here are the mutations on the last cat by the way. No mutations for extra turns, but otherwise I'm very happy with those. Two backflips and one shield every fight does a lot for mitigating damage.
i wish this was a normal gameplay mechanic
>>733839634That's generally how you run Angry Face, yeah.Pick a Mage and give it all niche utility spells on level up, so it doesn't give your team much resistance.By the time you hit Dybbuk it'll look like pic related because every encounter thus far would have been -1 stat for it.If you wanna get really evil you can breed some fucked up runtmaxx'd 2CON cat to wear the mask, making it even easier.
>>733840064Maybe the shop should sell reroll things more often or something.Or maybe the shop should sell anything but trash or something.
>need to sacrifice 50 retired cats for the fourth roomJesus Christ
>>733840112Bracing for the tired 'steak' meme as though that shit was ever funny.
Just equipped Guillotina's head for the challenge, what am I in for?
fuck this I'm modding the game to reduce the monotonyI get edmund's games are meant to be 200+ hour experiences but I don't enjoy a forcefully slow start
I wonder...
>>733839696The animations on the enemies mog Isaac so hard.
>>733840112chew your ste->>733840138N-NANI?!
>>733832160>Tinkerer is balanced around having tech and ways to increase it>Only 5 or so skills actually interact with the mechanic, meaning that more often than not you will get shit like rocket boots or unreliable missileI understand that getting to tech three easily is broken but there are better ways to balance the class than saying you either instant kill everything or you eat shit.
>>733839696Man I feel sorry for you zoomers that didn't grow up with Newgrounds games lmao
>>733840260Just give it to a tank. Out of all the side quest items, this one at least offers a pretty generous bonus.Know that you will have to sacrifice that cat so don't get too attached.
>>733840064There's a mod for giving 1 recollection per level up
>>733840418C'mon Skull Kid and Pico games were not THAT great. However disorderly was!
>>733840519Reroll*
what the FUCK is this cat
>>733831583More fuck you parasite events so you'd play slower.
>>733840756ugly, gay and inbred
this is my starter cat, it has 8 in intelligence and i's colorless. will it pass down 8 in intelligence? or do 8s not get passed down? i heard that 7 gets passed down at max and 8 isn't normal
Um, bros, I just unlocked ||crazy|| difficulty. What's the difference to hard?
>>733837778Years of jewish propaganda will do that.It can't be helped.
>>733840920Fuck my stupid chud life I just used discord spoiler tags on 4chan
>>733833732yeah i've got it oncei was confused on why it was considered a good event, but then i figured out it'd be a free extra level up
>>733840903only base stats can be passed down, and you can only get base stats as high as 7desu i wouldn't worry about actually doing breeding stuff this early, there's a reason a bunch of features (like being able to see your cats' base stats) are locked at the start
>>733839696>and the disgusting shit that makes you think Edmund should probably have his harddrive looked at by the policeI think reddit, twitter, or a shotgun might be more your speed.
>Loner + Angry Face + Me stone on another catOops, accidentally built a piss easy run to cheese your quest! Sorry steakmund
>>733840903you can't yet see them, but cats only pass on base stats, which are more or less their stats as kittenstink's first upgrade lets you see them
>>733840318It did not work
>>733837778Because there''s nothing memorable of memeable about Stalin.
>>733837908Kithler
>>733838441It's better to even out the stats through the later upgrades, so when you breed you get even stats and some stats higher, you can get kitties with fighter abilities with high strength and low movement and luck and will fuck you over in the long run
>>733840510Alright. Luckily that is what I did. He has pretty good stats but so does the rest of the party. Thanks for the heads up about not getting too attatched
>>733841498
Are Tinker and Druid just totally worthless?
Sweet, removing the class colors from cats was easier than I thought it would be.
>>733833454By being a Timmy he already rolled high
>breeding cat wont mate with current strays>new strays have stopped having 7 base stats despite me adding more appealdoes the fucking breeding have hidden difficult spikes? i am consistently adding furniture to my rooms too
>broken mirror can't be used with the stone that makes your attack scale with your lowest statLAMEwhat can broken mirror even be used with then?
>>733837957
>>733841613huh, how?
>>733841597Tinker is unintuitive but good. Druid is like the best class in the game or top tier at least, it’s way better than cleric
>>733837957sexual degenerate
>>733841498sex
>>733841831The class definition files have a "palette" line that I deleted. I expected the game to spaz out and not work, but no, it simply doesn't recolor the cat sprites as a result, which is what I wanted.
Oops haha that cat with the skill you like is gay better luck next time :)
>>733841498Rape
>>733838213>jews>west
>>733841750Are gays dead ends?
I feel like you should be able to abandon runs whenever between fights and at least keep some surviving cats instead of being forced to press on when it's blatantly hopeless.
>>733841498friendship
>>733841902yes
If you have a squad of full 7 luck at the start does that seed better events? I know that events are seeded so even if your luck changes partway through it doesnt change the map
The most min-maxed, healthiest, stimulating, comfiest room ever. Priorities in that order. And yes an attic would be better, but I actually ran out of good stuff to put in. Will be easy to move there later once I get more. Now time to breed some healthy cats in here.
>>733842085they can breed with ? catsthey also allegedly attract strays who themselves are gay and possible have traits that they have
>>733827063Just realized that Magnus is the fighter, Lucy the mage, Momma cat the tank and Fenrir the ranger.Their colors should have made me realize sooner.
he's here to save the dayking of the jungle or so they say
>>733842236Honestly if they have good stats I'll use em for a run then pipe them
>>733842270Every miniboss from chapter 1 of each act represent a playable class.Also Pebbles represents the collarless class.
>>733842296I piped your mother's ass last night.
>have a cat with Blood Frenzy>think Careful can remedy it>HAHA NOPE GET FUCKEDEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDMUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNDDDDDDD
>>733842362when they're in frenzy they're no longer considered allies so the text is still accurate :^)
>>733842196These cats are both girls...
is it possible to get enough breeding going to get infinite money by trading kittens to tink, or is it just meant to be more of a bonus for getting rid of runts?
>>733842397is morana actually a girl's name?
Crater maker was pretty easy
>>733842404you're capped by the kid only selling a new set of furniture once per week anyway, and tracy's shop barely matters
>>733842443>Morana (in Czech, Slovene, Serbian, Croatian), Morena (in Slovak, and in Macedonian: Mopeнa), Mora (in Bulgarian: Mopa), Mara (in Ukrainian: Mapa), Morė (in Lithuanian), Marena (in Russian: Mapeнa), or Marzanna (in Polish) is a pagan Slavic goddess associated with seasonal rites based on the idea of death and rebirth of nature. She is an ancient goddess associated with winter's death, rebirth and dreams. In ancient Slavic rites, the death of the Goddess Morana at the end of winter becomes the rebirth of Spring of the Goddess Kostroma (Russian), Lada or Vesna representing the coming of Spring.
>>733842384That's still bullshit.Fucking madness.
>>733842503>and tracy's shop barely mattersnot true in my case since i'm still at the point where food is an actual concern
>>733831579These events still appear if you're doing bad.
This might be one of the greatest disorders in the game.I have it on a druid who also just so managed to get Hyper Beam.He doesn't even have good summon spells it's just toads.
Show me your stash anon.
>>733842831is that guppy?
my tutorial cat turned old, should i donate them? i don't want them to die or something and they become a waste. does somebody want old cats or is there time before they die?
>>733842886he's retired so give it to frank
>>733842886Old means there's still some years to go but not manyI don't know the math exactly but most of mine died roughly 5 days after
>>733842886Give em to frank He have the highest amount of requirement ingame
>>733842280FEARING NO OOOOOOOONE
>>733842443Anything that ends in -a in most western dialects is gonna be a girl's name the majority of the time.
>>733835452No, Tay Zonday is just one of the voices you can get for your cats, Male22. The guy on the radio is from Ridiculon. They don't even sound similar, I don't know how you could possibly confuse them.
>>733842596Back in kindergarten we would make Marzanna effigies out of wood and rags, then drown her in the river as a way to cast off winter and welcome spring. A bit after that there rose enviromental concerns and everyone stopped doing that.
>>733843159Tay Zonday does show up in the radio during a bit, the one where he laughs for like 5 minutes.
So when a spell says it will have perminent consequences for casting this spellLike Forbidden FlameWhat does that mean, is that battle going to constantly be on fire?Does that cat just have a curse?Or will the game forever be like, in a state of Heat Wave until I get like Forbidden Frost?
>>733827063why do you have 3 eyes if you keep 2 of them closed? You unironically see worse than regular people
>>733831281Nice cat lmao
>>733843351no it means your cat will get a random disorderdisorders are like extra passive abilities that (generally) have bad effects
>>733843351just the stupid cat gets a stupid negative disease
>>733843351Disorders. You can get up to 2 at a time but if you cast it again, it cycles.Its nothing to give a shit about, use forbidden spells all the time. Its beyond worth it, even as you fart so hard you get depression.
>>733841281Stalin's death is plenty memorable if you know what a self own of a clown show it was. He was so paranoid he made sure his allies would never get into his room, then just got a stroke while in it and didnt get help until it was too late because of his own retardation.Hitler is memeable because he just looks plain silly and nazi uniforms are highly iconic, courtesy of Hugo Boss.Of dictators I know only one Id say looks goofier than square mustache uncle is Kim Jong Un but rocket fatso isnt as iconic.Plus mecha hitler is a classic.
It would be nice if cats could interact with the furniture, bit of a waste we cant even have toys or something that trains the cat like a cat gym
>>733843453The first time I used Forbidden Famine my butcher got stuck with Depression and PsychosisStill managed to clear the moon but fuck those disorders
I've wondered why so many lategame bosses constantly cleanse debuffs. Now I get why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLX4WFmHL-4
>>733843618My current breeding jester has those disorders because I was fucking around with the metronome spell too much, i had to use mind meld on a crow to push him out of the core boss’s AoE kill
>>733843638poison is so fucking ass
>face queen hippo>got necro with bloodlettingI CAST MYOCARDIAL INFARCTION
>>733843740>Ignoring the 226 bleed stacks.
>>733843740Poison's good cause it ticks per turnBleed only ticks at round end
>>733833732you can fight Chupakabra in a similar event fight.
bros labs is giving me cancer... go on without me....
>>733843805Yeah most of the time bleed sucks. Reason I managed to stack that much bleed was pack of blades and attacking 9 times a turn.
>>733833732In The Alley, I managed to fight a rabbit miniboss that was a lot like the fighter boss The annoying part wasn't even damage, he'd just go all over the fucking place
>>733834560>Getting killed by Crater MakerRead niggaJust make him end his turns on the chomp that only hits 1 square or stun him
post the worst family trees
>>733843914The anon was complaining about the side blasts, which is the biggest threat of the fight.
>>733843916That thing must have enough chromosomes for 7 cats
>>733843916catsburgmaxxing
>>733843949>biggest threat>not getting chomped as 1HKO
>>733843986>The easiest attack to avoidLiterally just don't stand directly in front of him at the end of the round.
>>733843159Yeah that was the one I just heard when I made the post >>733843249
>>733843949No they fucking aren't Don't hit him 30 times when there's cats standing at his sidesCrater Maker is by far easier than the normal fights in that zone
>>733843949>biggest threatthey only trigger when you attack, unless you're summon-maxxing it's not a problem
>>733843916>fucking your daughter, granddaughter, and grand-granddaughter
>>733844061>>733844072Biggest threat compared to everything else.
Does the game count brother sister as inbred?
>>733844178immediately related cats are the most likely to get clocked as inbred yeah
You guys were NOT kidding about Spewer, holy fuck.I don't think I would've killed him if my cleric didn't have the passive that damages enemies when they kill your summons.
>>733844178YesIts something like a check of how much of your family tree is related by a percentage, which is why shoving just one stray into the mix resets the inbreeding warning for a while
>Do Act 1 Graveyard to get a completion tag for Monk I never did>See like four new enemy typesWhat the fuckNever seen the MP draining gravestones or the zombie spawners>>733844241I keep getting the other lab boss but the times I got Spewer weren't so bad
I need to overcome myself to start adventures at this point but I never actually regret them when Im in them.
>>733844241If act 3 is giving you a lot of trouble, you need to sit down and grind your cats. I'd say aim for a base minimum of 5 in all stats with at least one 7 and multiple mutations on each cat before going back. Act 3 is when the game goes "break or lose".
Is this ALSO going to kill my cat for no benefit?
>>733844442Looting chapter 4 bosses has a chance to either kill your cat or give a boss-unique drop that are all amazing.
>>733844241
>>733843916My first cat that died of old age was 26I didn't know how long he was gonna last, but I thought I could give him one more year before donating him to Tracyhe knocked up his 2 year old daughter before passing away.
>>733844442>6luckdont even try.
>>733844462>>733844505Genuinely, this is retarded game design.
>>733844442First time you loot chapter 4 bosses is always free
>>733844582Yes, it is.
>>733844582Its just gambling a cat for an itemOnly do it if you dont care about that cat tho
>>733844605incorrect...
>>733844605Wrong, first time I looted Chaos it killed my cat. Seems to be the same with the Anon here too. Maybe it's the first time looting the king, but that's it.>>733844582
>>733844639Yes, that is factually what it is. And it is also genuinely retarded game design.
>>733844605No its not, you just got luckyI lost my ranger the first time I beat throbbing kingDon't even bother unless it picks a cat with high luck or some shitter you dragged over the finish line
>>733844582it's not, you're chosing between a retired cat that will only be good for base defense, breeding and upgrades or an item that will aid your future runsif the cat base stats are mediocre and you don't care about upgrades it's a fair trade
>>733844665elaborate
>>733832160Actually not wrong but I'd argue cleric can play as a tank/frontline/sometimes offence and mage can sometimes play offensive depending on your spells/passives
>>733844720You get nothing if the cat dies, though.
>>733832693Elk shits on everything except bosses with no summons tooBut you can throw your own summons at those
>>733844605false, I lost to the Throbbing King corpse first time around>>733844747and if you get something the cat lives,it's gambling, if the cat is worth less than the loot the gamble is worth itnot taking luck stat into account
Mods I installed>no steven>guaranteed chapter 4 loot>removable cursed itemsScrew you steakmund
A rare tinkerer who doesn't need tech to do well. Just give her decent gear and she'll solo the game.
>spin revolver>point it at back of my head>pull trigger>bullet doesn't fireGenuinely retarded design
>>733844853ok
>>733844853>>no stevenI'm starting to realize a common truth about all steakmund posters
>>733844643>>733844649>>733844676>>733844832I didn't know, just wanted someone to betatest for me lol
>>733844806Elk don't chain with encore and let you attack 10 times per turn anonAlso if you're lucky you can combined both
>>733844967Elk has a 3 MP movement refresh and trample all it needs to combo with is thorns or bruise on contact
If you have to retry more than 1-2 times per runYou sucks , you genuinely fucking sucks
10 is the max mutations you can get from the house, but if you have 2 cats with the max of 15 from an adventure will they pass on all 15? or only 10?
>>733844936it's a legit complaint imo, the best way to learn is to be able to try different things to find what worksgames you to have cheat codes
>>733844853There's no chapter 4 loot boss mod. Low quality bait.
>>733827063>Which class mini-bosswait as in the miniboss you fight depends on what? the class of the first cat in your party?
>>733845001That's not chaining 200 damage per turn anon
>>733844853>no The Dark Past of Dr. Beanies>no Shut up & Meow!>just some cheatssovllessnessnessness
>>733845060>the best way to learn is to be able to try different things to find what worksYou don't learn that from savescumming. If anything, there being a drawback for repeatedly banging your head against the wall is more of a motivator than bruteforcing a strategy that doesn't work on the first or second go
how did he get away with all this copyrighted stuff?
>>733845135>The Dark Past of Dr. BeaniesI don't get the joke in that mod, cuz his last name was Boner?
>>733845315legally distinct
>>733845060it's why you're not a game designer anonhaving infinite retry don't incentivize you to learn anything .It's why steven let you have 1 freebie and 2 for minor debuff you cheating little bitch.
>>733845126Different anon but Elk is amazing for non boss battles. Enough speed to cover the entire map and trample every enemy to death turn 1 is funny. Falls off on big bosses though because you can't trample them.You can also combine the 2, druid forms stack. Your basic attack is from whatever form you used last, but the stats and bonus ability stay.
>>733845115No. The mid bosses of the first areas are just based on the classes of the cats in general
>>733845135I noticed those 2 mods were made by the same guy, is that you?
>>733843618you can just keep recasting the spell and it will override the current disorders
>>733835446then why do blind enemies often just walk around and attack nothingthe blind status is different from blind enemy types is why
>>733845367Werelk is insane but I only got it once so I between werecat and elk I'd rather pick werecat since I can actually contribute to boss fight with that
I need to stop taking my chances with these Cats with highly aggressive moods and good mutations. They are always going after the other MAIN cat i want to breed and end up fighting and killing them before they get the chance to. I lost a veteran cat with +1 Bonus attack mutation to some random ass stray with good stats.
>>733845334It's a dialogue rewrite that makes him an Operation Paperclip acquisition.Some "le science" jokes are replaced with references to eugenics, physiognomy, etc.One poop joke is replaced with a Hitler joke.One "I'm bitter about my highschool teacher" was also replaced with a Hitler joke.The facial expressions and lines were made generally more consistent with the surrounding context, i.e. he actually kicks you out like Butch says, etc.>>733845393yes
My favorite druid build was a poop druid build. Combined the items to leave poops while walking around with poops are alive with druid familiar passives/actives.The entire map would be flooded in champion poops in like 3 turns.
>>733845590I got Wereelk on a jester and seeing it stand up and start flossing sent my sides into orbit
>>733845686Poop summoner relies on that one item that make poop alive ?
>>733845225>You don't learn that from savescumming.Wrong, it lets you play the same encounter in different way and you LEARN which work.Not being able to save-scum motivates you to not try new things that may fail, because you'll be punished for it with permanent consequence if it does not work out.This is why Steve is egregious to me, it's Edmund telling me I have to play the game his way.I don't need to savescum to win, but I'd rather be able to back up my save and try two different perks to see how they interact with my items, because I want to see both interactions.Steakmund wants you to only be able to see things one at a time, he wants you to waste more time and cats discovering the esoteric mechanics he vaguely explains, because he likes the idea of screwing you.
>>733845674>makes him an Operation Paperclip acquisition.A what?
>>733845763Yes. I also had the colorless poop active skill. Which pretty often leaves a pile of poop, that summons more poop.
Zaratana you taste so fucking good...
>>733845674Well I've been wanting to remove the bow on top fag for a while so I'll go look into that one
>>733845805German scientist recruited to the US after WW2.
Thread's about to die but I just tried Crazy difficulty. Not absurdly harder. Two enemies each encounter have two elite buffs. Bosses also have two.
>>733845856Oh, if it makes the dialogue less reddity I'll give it a try, tho admittedly I don't care a whole lot about the game's dialogue either way
>>733845823I also had a tank solo that fight, but in a different way.
>>733845843That person's voice pack is still there. But all spoken lines were removed from it.Initially, I thought I'd just replace them all wholesale, but I decided to clean up workable voice packs to retain the existing variety as much as possible.
>>733845353>it's why you're not a game designer anonmost games don't do this autistic save integrity autism,I can retry fights in slay the spire, I can retry missions in XCOM.get his dick out of your mouth you simp retard, steve was a stupid, self-indulgent addition to the game
>>733845912Best wait a day or two.My initial rewrite was very "faithful" the original.I'm working on a version that adjusts more than just some conjunctions and his tone and replaces lines I personally find annoying and not entertaining either with lines that just match the characterization or joke about stuff that isn't a copy/paste of Rick & Morty like many of the original lines.
>>733845769>you'll be punished for it with permanent consequence if it does not work out.nothing in this game has permanent consequences. If you try something and fail and lose a cat or party wipe oh well you've got 40 more cats back at home to try again
>>733845918Aw man, I was doubting whether it would actually work. I would’ve gone solo too for fun.
>>733846049Someone's mad getting called out as a dirty cheater.
>>733845934>That person's voice pack is still there. But all spoken lines were removed from it.???Isn't literally all of his noises just "nice little bow on top"? How would you repurpose that meow pack without completely removing it?
>>733845334>his last name was BonerIt's actually a cross-language pun between English and German based on the German word for "bean(s)".
God please make a mod that lets me edit my ugly ass save catLook at this ugly cocksucker it doesn't even look like a cat
>>733846053Why is tinkerer on S, sisters... have I been blind, have I been hypnotized?
>>733845769>I want to play a game where there is no consequences for fucking up and I can't loseLittle bitch
>>733846228Tinkerer require you to pass down a specific passive through kittenThen you're set aslong as you have a gun(it's blacksmith)
Psychic is pretty good support baseline. I've never lost with one.Just being able to push shit around, start with a lot of mana, and do global taps is great.
>>733846215Surprised It's not a different one each timeI got an evil fucker
>>733846142>Isn't literally all of his noises just "nice little bow on top"?Nope, only 1 out of 5 happy_meow lines was that.Same with "wrapped it all up" being only one of several "normal meow" lines.There were several voice banks that were purely/majority talking, those I've replaced with similar-sounding ones. I've left all "gimmick" (i.e. unique cat) voice banks untouched, even if they include talking. everything that's "male23" or "female69" was cleaned of spoken English words.
>>733846107I'm mad, at you.I'm at peace with Steakmunds intrusive bend, I'm upset people like you think it's a good thing.I'm mad you're calling it 'game design'.I'm mad you think disincentivizing experimentation facilitates learning.
>>733845769>>Wrong, it lets you play the same encounter in different way and you LEARN which work.Emphasis on 'lets'. The average newbie that doesn't know shit about the game is obviously gonna take the easiest route every time: they're not gonna rethink what they're doing on their own if there isn't some sort of punishment for playing like a retard.>Not being able to save-scum motivates you to not try new things that may failExcept you CAN still savescum. The first time is just a warning, and the second time only applies to one of your cats generally (and it disappears when the run is over). I haven't had a need to reset more than that so I can't speak about the other detriments, but in my opinion of you have to reset more than three times then it's more likely a case of your cats not being strong enough>Steakmund wants you to only be able to see things one at a timeOkay, so I WAS correct with my original statement
Is there a good breeding guide? I just got my third room and unlocked the past? and want to start breeding out 3/4/5-point base stats. Inheriting passive abilities from retired cats seems OP.
>>733846353no
>>733846415How the fuck are you this far into the game and still don't have mostly 6-7s (heh) cats?
Let's talk about the worst passive. After image and bouncer have done more harm than good for me so far
>>733836945The injury stuff is bunk but the give yourself a disorder stuff is great
I hate seeing everyone rate Mages low on every tierlist because so far they're still my fav class...
>>733846395It is game design.It's intended game design for steven to exist you retard, you are mad that you cant savescum 50 times without consequences, you are mad that you can lose a run.
>>733846513Unironically how? What do you like about mages?
>>733846215the save editor on nexus works for that
>>733846513I wanted to like them and tried them a lot but holy shit do they suck
>>733846228Yeah, haven't you seen the op?
>>733846628Which one?
>>733846639alice?
>>733846228no, it's still shit, he's retarded
>>733846584I like all the different spells you can learn and how many elements there are. Magic is neat>>733846638They probably are shit, I can agree there
>>733846513Too many useless passive/actives Too much reliance on you getting passive and active that line upHalf of mage active and passive are shit tier that do too little or too hyper specific The active pool is polluted with 5 Forbidden moves that give you perma disorders
>>733846584I dont have no problem with them either. 2 fire proof, wind blowing mages I had solod final phase Guilotina after setting the whole area ablaze. I think the problem is that they mostly only get elemental spells that share the same pool with other elemental spells so you cant build nothing too reliable and that there isn't enough basic magic spells.
>If you have Lord of the Flies on any cat on the team, surviving pooters come to the next stage with you too Oh this is kinda great
>>733846827Don't forget absolutely pitiful range of some spells combined with pathetic base con. Basic attack also sucks balls.
>>733846827Be nice if there was upgrades to the house you can get that could give you a preview of what abilities and passive you can get before locking in, and maybe letting you weigh and disfavor certain skills and passives from a library
Edmund need to genuinely buff mageIt is so fucked of a kit it's not even funny
>>733846915I'd change the passives first and then see if any spells need to be buffedSo many of the passives are so bad
I've cleared the caves. Is further progression tied to the hard route, cat donations, or time?
>>733846827The forbidden spells are the best part of mage btw
>>733846827>The active pool is polluted with 5 Forbidden moves that give you perma disordersI didn't think of this but that's fair enough. The forbidden moves are another part I like about them, but it does suck that the drawback for using them is so generic (I was expecting there to be a unique "consequence" for each one, but from what I see it's just a random disorder)
>>733846685Yeah, she hypnotized u
>>733846850my misclicking ass>>733846513
>>7338469751/3rd of the passive pool is just >One Two Three Four FiveLike they rarely are good
>>733835775what a nigger
>>733846571what's the game design function? what purpose does it serve?What I'm mad about is that the shitty system does not work, because I've genuinely alt-F4ed 2 times, but I've gotten steve 5 times.Because I'm running the game from a flash drive on 2 different computers on 2 different versions of WINE.It literally doesn't matter to me, because it's never on the same runs, but it doesn't change that the retarded nigger baby should not be there in the first place.Because games should not be policing savestates unless it's an MP game, which this fucking isn't.
>>733846958You have to do the Alley hard path to unlock anything further
