Marathonkino thread. Blastbros....WE WON.
>>733870489buy an ad shitskin
Is this the looney troon game whose devs stole some artist's props and tried to deny it and lie about it?Not gonna lie, that's worse than saying you use AI, though equally lazy and creatively bankrupt.
damn... have blast bulls ever been wrong?
ttk way too fuckin low homie
>>733870489David Jaffe, the creator of God of War and Twisted Metal, hates Marathon. It's over for Bongo!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiphUj1vtrU
>>733870489LOG THE FUCK INAND RETURN TO FORM
>>733871038based truthposter, dunking on corpo rats
why does one of the runners have a voice like she smokes a pack of 40 a day?
>>733871038yes
Could've avoided it with a PvE mode
ITS OVER
>>733871214>shits on nu god of war>shits on marathonI am starting to think this guy just hates Sony.
>>733871094>guy whose entire claim is 20+ year old games at this pointRemember Drawn to Death? GOW 2 and 3 are just better than the first.
>>733870489Can someone explain to an unc what this game is?
>>733870489Three threads all on the bottom of the board and 2/3 getting samefagged.
>>733871259Doesn’t everyone?
this game is for people who nut over graphic design instead of gameplay, artstation slop
>>733871273PvPvE extraction shooter that stole art direction and design from another extraction shooter.That's like shit based on shit.
this game has the single worst UI I have seen in like a decade. just fundamentally shit at a core level. no amount of "learning items" could fix it, nor do I feel the desire to learn any items when doing so is an affront to my senses
>>733871273look up valorant (counter-strike clone with magic and abilities)and think of Valorant but extraction shooter.
>>733871378>graphic design
>>733871273a hundred years ago some dudes made a fpp gamehundred years later pajeets made a "sequel" which has nothing to do with the game at all
So are you just meant to bring like 10 stacks of ammo into every match? Why the fuck is ammo so rare? What's even the point of killing enemies? They never seem to drop ammo. Nor does ammo seem to spawn as in world loot at all. The only time I've found ammo was in the tutorial where it's hard-coded in as loot next to the guns you start off with. Am I missing something? Are you meant to avoid shooting as much as possible or what? The volt batteries say they charge when you sprint but I can't tell is there a way to see when it's charged or how charged it is? If you reload it throws the battery out and it's just gone. I'm so confused.
>>733871273just another flop gramps, no one will even thin about it in 3 weeks
the "visuals dont matter its all about the gameplay" crowd are in shambles right now because all i've ever seen anyone complain about are the visuals
>>733871602nigger every other post in this thread is directly criticizing a specific part of the gameplay. nobody is even talking about the (stolen) art anymore
What is funny to me is that if Marathon was playable single player I would probably be interested in it cause all the extraction shooters are multiplayer only (yes I know duckov and zero sievert). But all those companies are so fucking retarded going for the same SaaS pie. They honestly deserve all those studio shutdowns for being this fucking retarded.
>>733871005Kek absolutely livid
slow paced tacticool ability games dont work well with a low ttk, homiestook arc raiders like 6 months to finally nerf their fuckin problem gun(stitcher) and these idiots are following the same route.
>>733871765Yeah the low TTK makes all encounters feel horrid. Whoever sees whoever first wins. You either kill someone by getting the drop on them or get instakilled by someone before you ever see them.
>>733871838it's fucking crazy that the PvE enemies have more health than players. just braindead bullet sponges that run towards you in a straight line and are barely reactive so the guns feel like fucking shit. genuinely one of the worst shooting experiences I've ever had. I'm shocked it's so poor
>>733871273I'll explain:You log into the gameThen have a blast
>below 140k players and dropping
>>733871838so basically what bungie did was made csgobut on 10sqkm mapsand while on acid
>>733870489I don't get why /v/ is trying so hard to make this the next concord >they stole art/v/ hates art and artists>Bungie killed destiny because of marathon/v/ hates destinySo what gives
>>733871838I mean, isn't the intent for you to kit yourself out so that stops happening?
>>733871838it makes everything around the games mechanics like shields, healing, abilities, movement(slow as fuck clunky) feel pointless. the pacing is jogging around looting shit, and then it comes to a fight and you're dead in 1 second? what good is anything in any circumstance when you get sneezed all your health away?
>>733871723add cargo hunters to your list
>>733871965lmao fuck off shill
This is the first concordlike I'm playing and I'm having a blast.
>>733870489I'm gonna blast into a bottle and slam it on the server!
>played a solo match>go to buildings and just grab random shit>hide in a vent and kill someone who was following me>exfilAm I playing wrong?
I love the look of it. Will take a while to get the hang of the gameplay.
>>733872070Playing as a rat will always be the correct choice in an extraction shooter.
>>733872016the balancing is never going to work because they probably did the arc raiders way of balancing things, by dev tooling top tier loot which removes natural things like gear fear and the like.man ttk might seem fine when you already have purple gear and 5 blips worth of shield against a full kitted out weapon.
>>733872057ok
>>733871838worth noting that TTK does get somewhat higher if you actually have the higher tier shields which nobody does right nowbut it needs to be sort of low otherwise it becomes shit like apex or highguard or w/e where somebody goes down and you instantly lose the fight because the other team just bull rushes you with their higher team HP
>>733871965/v/ loves schadenfreude more than they love games. For /v/ it's more exciting to have a game crash out than to have a good game come out.
>>733871542everything is so expensive while the loot you get is worthless. running anything more than the free kits you get after death seems dumb unless your trying for a specific mission.
love when the game randomly blasts me with 5 different random fonts on the same screen
>>733872070no, that's the intended gameplay, play like a ratcuck, don't engage/have fun, act like a hobo trawling dumpsters then get the fuck out. Then do it all over again and never use the shit you loot.
>>733871965A game will only get positive reception of /v/ it it has:>No multiplayer with official servers>No microtransactions>No browns>No girlbossesUnsurprisingly, western games manage to fail 100% of the time.
>>733872363>love when the game randomly blastsso you are having it? great success.
>>733871838change your playstyle and git gud. fags like you make every game feel the same.
>>733872482Baldurs Gate 3 has all of those and /v/ loved it.
>>733872363Let me guess the UI/UX was designed by a woman
well does the shields actually act like overshields or did they do that gay shit like arc raiders where its just body armor?
>>733872363i unironically love that
played a round and then uninstalled. really feels like lowest common denominator money grab shit. “come be a pawn in our money machine” feel. yea im good, hope you guys have fun though.
>>733872605Baldur's Gate 3 has micro transactions?
>>733872654same
>>733872606how did you know oh great one
>>733872140>gear fear and the likeSo fun. I love being worried about something in my free time. GET A JOB ZOOMER.
>>733870489is this just first person arc raiders
>>733872693totally normal woman name
>>733872796no it's more about killing people
>>733872662yea it’s hard to really emphasize that feeling of the game not really caring about you the player having a good experience, as much as it does that you the player are there to create the experience for others. somehow arc managed to avoid that a bit more than this does, or maybe I’m just jaded after that.
>>733872178>it's more exciting to have a game crash out than to have a good game come outI would play it if it was single player. If they all choose to make the same worthless game then yes I will enjoy seeing it predictably fail.
despite everything im having a BLAST in Marathon!
>>733872814It's an actual woman, I checked. But that's a weird fucking name, maybe she's Canadian.
>>733871038> posted the truth again award Erm, can you not do that chud?
>>733872662Around 2014 the developers approach to multiplayer became more about the collective hive mind than it did the individual player
>>733870489does this have a melee option or pure shooter?
>>733872881oh i thought she was that weirdo with the lego trans necklace
its going down down down down down
oh wow bungie so it must play like halo!>die in the equivalent to 2 BR shots to the head
>>733872996you have a knife and there are upgrades you can find that make melee strongerit'll probably be annoying to play if you want to be a pure melee guy though unless you get a kick out of doing gimmicky playstyles where you die more often than not
>>733872881It's a spic, here she is. Enjoy your UX designer chuds
I have more fun playin with my penis
>>733871259Gaffe hates just about everything. it's kinda funny that he's even trying to be relevant. He got filtered by Metroid Dread which is downright embarrassing.
I like how hostile it is, you have like no ammo, I mainly like solo mode
>>733873141is that boxxy
>>733873141i'd fill her taco
>>733873170is it feminine?
>>733873268im okay with the teamfights but the art direction is so moody that it only really shines when you're alone no wonder that i kept seeing people asking "is this a singleplayer game???" in some of the trailers
>>733871542The gameplay loop is>enter with whatever, your vault or sponsored freebie>do missions for PMCs>PMCs give you rewards>use rewards to gear up>complete harder missions>harder missions give you actual freebies in the shop and not the shitty sponsor kits>now you begin every match with green gear instead of scrapsI'm very surprised people think this game is hardcore when it's very generous, more so than Hunt, but I highly suspect this will change on release because Bungie are known to do shit like that.
what do you even do in this game? why are you allowed to just leave the game whenever
>>733871542bottom right, hold a volt weapon and you'll see the chargeit's comically slow
>>733870489>marathon is awesomeYes it is.
how do i change my name from redacted?
is every map just the same?
This game is just fucking sad. The longer I play the more I despise it. It actually gets worse the more you understand it, because more and more you begin to realize how awful the design is. At least at first I was just confused and thought maybe I was missing something. Now that I've played several rounds I realize the full extent of how shitty it is.It's bad. Like really bad. I can write walls of text on just how stupid this fucking game is but I will just say even at the most basic level nothing makes sense or works. The economy makes 0 sense. The ammo economy makes no sense. The TTK makes no sense. The map design sucks. The maps are boring. The enemy AI is boring. The healing items are slow but you take so much damage so fast. The movement is slow and clunky. The inventory sucks ass. Even basic inventory management features are absent. Ping system is absolute dogshit. The artstyle is dogshit. The UI gives you a headache. It's frustrating and painful to play. I'm actually pissed off because I genuinely was excited for this game. Holy FUCK I hate this game. HIGHGUARD WAS BETTER THAN THIS SHIT. I AM NOT JOKING. I LITERALLY HAD MORE FUN WITH HIGHGUARD THAN FUCKING MARATHON.GARBAGE DOGSHIT WILL (NOT) MAKE ME GOD
>>733874094time for bed gramps
>>733874331>HIGHGUARD WAS BETTER THAN THIS SHIT. nah i've played both absolutely insane thing to saymarathon has good moments, highguard's best moments are still bad
>>733874414>>733874331highguard and marathon are both similar levels of mediocre to me, i just don't really feel anything playing either, nothing has weight or any purposebefore you say im depressed or some shit, nah it's really just these two games that have inspired that in me
>>733874331This doesn't even feel like an extraction shooter. The best way to play is just take one of the free kits and do whatever your contract is and ignore all loot since it's all worthless except for the supply drops.
>>733874331i want to think server slam is to balance shit but they already had their testersim guessin the shilling streamer faggots got their hands on it and resorted to the eatsports hardcore faggotry to go with itthis isn't casual friendly at all
>>733874609it's impressive how they've managed to make looting feel even less interesting than in arc raiders, it just feels like i'm looting the exact same thing outside of heals
>>733874331why do you fags write text walls like this but never attach a screenie
just extracted with epic loot having a BLAST
>>733874047Thanks anon
This entire game is a ritualistic gnostic humiliation ritual from the game's theme, loop, lore and marketing material. The experience is meant to be shit and Bungie actively trying to die.
you die WAY TOO FUCKIN FAST
>>733874609>entire loop is going in, if you die you lose your shit, and get stuff and leave when you want>its actually not an extraction shooter because uhhhI don't like it but its the exact formula Tarkov and Arc have.>>733874696I think right now it has the same issue of Arc where 90% of shit is useless and the 10% is uncommon but not rare enough to feel special. Like no one gives a shit about the legendaries in Arc, and I imagine a high tier Core won't feel special here
way too many critical bugs for really basic things. Specific items when dropped can't be picked up, pretty much every map is really linear just funneling everyone towards the inner area with extracts.
>destiny dieded for this
>>733875461Those complaints seem pretty minor
>>733875620bad game dies for worse game
TTK is way too low when you're downed.
>Join game>Head yoward objective>One billion NPCs spawn>They hit like tanks and take one full clip + reload to down>Other team swoops in and murders you while you try to healThis game is miserable.
>>733875753Default should be 2 shields, but you can buy something in the shop to give you +1 shield.
>>733875775git gud
>>733875775>This game is miserableThis>>733874998That's the only possible explanation to describe this shit.
>>733874998woke and pneumapilled
>>733874998I haven't slept for like 24 hours I just realized how broken the spelling was in this post. But basically, the factions and the UESC are the archons, escape will make you god, death is the first step, DEATH AWAITS.
>heals heal for shit amount>die in 3 hits anyway>shields dont last for shitwhats the point
>>733875775This. The game is BAFFLINGLY dogshit. Like I knew it would be bad. But this somehow BLASTED my expectations
>need to do contract>squad just fuckin fucks around for 5 minutes>get to objective finally>team ready to melt us in 2 seconds
When playing it, you can literally feel which parts were made by women and jeets.
I start a new game where you are supposed to progressively get better gear and complain that I am not all-powerful right form the beginning I am very smart
is the cat's butthole still in the game
>>733876071Play solo pussy, be a man
Is having a blast on a blacklist for marketing companies by now?
game gets a lot better once you start to get it down
>>733876105The entire thing, you mean?>>733876017To suffer>>733876061This
>>733876674i think once you steamline looting and all that extra bullshit and focus on killing people it can be more fun and advantageous because the ttk is so fuckin lowwhen you take your time tryin to play it like fuckin fallout/skyrim like my squad then it turns into a faggotnigger boring dogshitfest
>>733876536i blasted and slammed!!it's mediocrenot bad, not goodgunplay feels nicemaps are empty, in both enemies (players and PvE fodder) and loot
>>733877227>posted it in the wrong threadblasted my brains out!!
Is solo a shitshow or is it fun? I don't like grouping with randos.
>>733877391i just did a quick rook run to test my settings and got instaraped by 3 other people
>>733877429Damn okay
>>733871497>>733871414>explain to an unc>it's an extraction shooterhe posted an Unreal Tournament pic, he has no idea what an extraction shooter is
>>733875775This sounds like it will scare every casual away forever. What was Bungie thinking?
>>733871940>just braindead bullet sponges that run towards you in a straight line and are barely reactive so the guns feel like fucking shithis. in arc, you shoot one of the drones with an anvil and that shit gets sent flying. having the enemies not even flinch to your guns in marathon makes it feel so weightless and make the guns feel like toys, when they already look like lego guns.
holy fuck you melt way too fast what were they thinking. needs like x4 higher
>>733877827it was 4x higher in the earlier demos, majority of players didn't like that.
Why does my mouse take forever to register in this shitass game?
>>733877612thinking? bungie only JAMS, LISTEN and DIG
>>7338778272/3 shields make you a tough cookie to crackbase shield makes you pop like a balloonfeels really bad
>>733878216sorry, I'll go return my penis to form by looking at sweaty tomboy porn
why is my name redacted#2342?
>>733878485Because you committed a heckin wrongthink when you chose your name you fucking CHUD
>>733878423you better share >>733878485Bungie moment
>>733870489Ya man, I'm having a blast!
>>733871378It has better gameplay than Arc Raiders.
>>733878597oh how do i even change it?
>>733878705Said the Bungie employee as xhe was holding back the tears.
>>733878597Haven't done it yet, anon. Thinking I might go look at some Tangle stuff because of that big Sonic thread.>>733878597Wait, playing the Marathon beta breaks Destiny 2 if you play that? What the fuck?>>733878705Apparently not, since all of the comments i"ve seen about the gameplay is 'Marathon is slow and boring and too hard' and how people wish they were playing Arc instead.
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>>733874332You first nigger lmao
i want to like it honestlybut i do not know at the moment. i need at least 1 more business day of playing along with a couple days on the weekend to come to the verdict
>>733877961thats insane. what was their fuckin reasoning?
>>733879128They bend their ass to retarded streamers all the time and generally had no idea what they were doing, that was their "reasoning".
>>733878802>what the fuck?Did you know that buying marathon would install destiny 2 back when preorder went live? Bungie probably repurposed some D2 server and it's biting them in the ass
>>733879473I remember that, but for real, does playing Marathon somehow fuck up your Destiny account?
>>733879584Who knows, for now the only side effect is a name change for some people
>>733870489>Under 120kBazzsisters! Join the Pack! We need you to slam the servers!
so whats the best class because they are all kinda asss in a way
>solos only get matched with other solosThank god
>>733878705dont you mean *** *******
>>733874331Ok I gotta take some of this back. After playing another 90 minutes or so it's starting to click. There's some fun to be had with this game for sure. The difficulty curve is a lot higher than I thought. The biggest part of it isn't gunplay or movement, it's the fucking items. There's so many fucking items and the UI is godawful text dumps which makes the starting gameplay absolutely miserable. They would REALLY benefit from making a more comprehensive tutorial because as it stands, majority of potential players are going to drop this game within the first 2 hours.It's grown on me a bit more, gotta say killing 6 people in one match is satisfying as fuck, although having 0 inventory slots to even carry most of the loot kinda sucks. But I guess that's extraction shooters for you. I think the best way to play is just focusing purely on PvP and not even bothering looting. Looters just gonna get murdered anyways while distracted. You need to probably play with friends/pre-made squad or you'll get shit on. No one uses comms, and I mean not a single person. But you need good communication to win. One or two people should always be on guard while the other(s) loot. Otherwise you'll get ambushed over and over and get shit on.
>>733880269Medic is best in my opinion. Constant heals and shields, and being able to revive teammates mid battle from a distance is simply too good to be beat. Recon is maybe a close 2nd because their ultimate will reveal all enemy positions and 75% of every encounter is just trying to figure out where everyone is and getting the drop on them before they find you and get the drop on you.
anyone else feel like the reaction is a bit more muted than expected?i felt like this slam was gonna come out swinging
>>733870489It's so wholesome and empowering plus i'm having a blast after this return to form
what does a core storage container even look like
Is it just me or is the UI for this game complete fucking ASS?I can't even chalk it up to console UI because my friend hates it too and he's on a PS5. It's just insufferable to navigate and inferact with.And to think this cane from the studio that completely pulped the induatry with Destiny UI.
>>733881685>is it just meThe UI being bad is probably the most consistent complaint I've seen today.
>>733871941Don't kill yourself so quickly troon.
DESU all the enemy NPCs are fucking boring bullet sponges.Arc Raiders has a lot of issues but at least the robots there are actually neat.
>>733881720I can get used to the UI, but the audio seems difficult to read after playing Arc so much
>>733881861uhhh wait for the final raid map ;)
you die too quick you die too quick you die too quicklegit faster than arc raiders thats insane
>>733882009MORE bullet sponges?
>>733881685I think it's safe to assume that everyone responsible for the Destiny games' redeeming qualities has left the company by now.
>>733871005He is the ad that was paid for.
>>733870489I'm adding marathon to my 4chan filter
i dont understand the appeal of the gamethis just feels like pubg but sloweris this what extractiom shooters are like? the muh high stakes lose everything mechanic is just a battle royale
Contracts being paused on Rook is the most anti-fun in this whole game. Also people need to STOP beelining to extract immediately, they wont even touch their objectives
>>733870489
>>733882238>is this what extractiom shooters are like?Congrats lmao you get it.The genre is just a more hardcore offshoot of DayZ. The same way PUBG branched off of it too.This is the genre. That's all there is and it baffles me Bungie thought this would be some massive megahit.
Played a few games, what I'm finding:>loot takes way to long to read what is and do I need it>really you only need to loot the salvage items for buying upgrades>going in with 2 randoms with different contracts, doesn't work>finding the best thing for contracts is go solo as stealth guy and avoid combat, surely this isn't how you're supposed to play?>combat is so risky even vs. NPCs you just don't want to do itBut I am enjoying the lore desu, what i actually want now is a space colony management game that looks the same as this.
Why are the maps so empty till enemies just jack in right in front of you in a firing line?
>>733882476I fucking wish this game was just a PvE coop campaignThe extraction shit adds fucking nothing
>>733882539But then what would it be, just this same shit walking around, taking out a group of enemies and then pressing X on a computer?
>>733882657I dont know maybe look at fucking Destiny but with an actual good settingAll this game tells me is that Bungie is still dumb as bricks when it comes to pvp design
>>733882657sounds more fun than current sloppathon
>>733882657>walking around, taking out a group of enemies and then pressing X on a computer?add mazes and that sounds like the OG Marathon
>>733871038Based.
>>733870489>extraction shooter>fundrop the cap nigga
does anyone know how to link your twitch for the drops it says i need a code??? i didnt get a code?
>>733882539there are retards that just love fighting AI nothing you can do about it sadly
LET ME REDEEM IT!!!!!! SAAR!!!!!
ttk way too fuckin low for this type of game
>>733884608If we compare to Apex, there you have way more time to react to other players, usually because the maps are so open you spot them from a long way. This you've got no chance.
>>733877391Yeah been trying force solo for a couple of hours and even if I manage to down or kill 2/3 it’s just almost impossible unless you’re going against bots. Sucks. I used to love going solo in DMZ and I could consistently pull off runs where I wiped teams and got out. I hate having to play with randoms. You always get that one middle aged guy that wants to talk too much.
honestly as a solo player I’m only half enjoying it. I think TTK is absurdly low without a squad, to the point where PvP isn’t any fun because I never feel like I’m outplaying anyone, just getting the drop on them or vice versa. even with shields gunfights feel like a toss up, and I’m getting way too many draws where we both get downed and just stare at each other till we die. A lot of the guns feel and look pretty samey to me as well.I also think the maps feel extremely empty - it’s ironic that in a game where most of the environments consist of shipping containers, I’m struggling to actually find things to pocket. the aesthetic is cool and the gunplay feels good against bots at least, but imo the game feels pretty unfinished. I was really looking forward to this and now I’m kind of considering canceling my preorder. I don’t love arc raiders but for the price that game has a lot more polish design wise, mostly in terms of player and enemy interaction. I find the lore more interesting here but otherwise this game is kind of braindead.
Yeah i dont see how this becomes a mega hit like sony wants
>>733885112I'm glad this server slam is having the exact effect I expected weeks ago.
boy i sure love getting in a match with people bringing the basic mida kit with no fucking ammo whatsoever! layoff cannot come soon enough
>>733885284People have been repeating this shit day one.>oh wow i like the cinematics but i wish it wasnt an extraction shooter>SHUT UP CHUD YOU NEED TO PLAY IT FIRST>server slam>people play it>they agree that they wish it wasnt an extraction shooterTurns put normalfag gut feelings tend to be right.
>>733885449It is dumb that you can't even add a backpack, ammo or health with a corp kit.
>>733885206yeah, bungie better have some fucking INSANE content drops planned for this game otherwise I think it’s gonna be dead really quickly. I say that as someone who was enthusiastic before this test. I think the unique art and relatively small console extraction shooter market might buy it some time, but it’s shocking to me that a game like this took a team like bungie so long and so much money to develop. I’m an ex game dev and there’s some serious auditing that needs to happen there if they don’t have some pretty big things planned for this game.
You guys lied, it fucking sucks.
>>733885823If you listened to the shills you have only yourself to blame.
>DUDE THE QUESTS IN MARATHON ARE SOOOO GOOOD>break 20 windows>press E to download data>kill this bullet sponge bossthe quests fucking suck
>>733885947>go to this end of the map and find 2 things>go to the other end of the map and find 2 things>go to, yes, another end of the map and press X on a computer>your teammates don't want to follow you and wait for you to find the 2 things in a building full of junk? Fuck you!
>>733884834same issue with arc raidersthe weapons delete your shield and your healthand then your heals are so fuckin slow you might as well kiss your ass goodbyeheadshot multipliers out the ass too
Hahahaa deadlock has 100k too and its invite onlyyour freeslop weekendsharting barely matches it
>>733885804dude bungie is fucking retardedlook at destinythey'll just shit out a buttload of cosmetic in the paid pass, add a single map and call it a dayThey don't think ahead, just chase the latest trend and hope it sticks
>>733870489I'MHAVINGABLAST
>>733886220honestly I don’t find arc raiders that bad, the environment design is much more clever there and 3rd person helps in that you can check most environments before rushing in. People complain about peeking but grenades exist for a reason. there are way more opportunities for player engagement before a fight happens, and the AI is much more clever in terms of showing up to player combat and chasing players down. I genuinely have to give arc raiders design props, it’s well done for what it is and the PvE elements are novel. In comparison marathon reeks of “works in internal and closed door playtesting, does not scale, nobody had the foresight to call it”
100,000 people in the demo doesn't equate to 100,000 people who will buy the game.
>>733886649thats pretty much the issue. whoever tested it were people designed to benefit from it, like streamingdev kits and giving youself best gear and testing that way is bullshit
>>733886649>and the PvE elements are novel. In comparison marathon reeks of “works in internal and closed door playtesting, does not scale, nobody had the foresight to call it”I think its the opposite. Arc had to add Aggression Based MM to protect its casual audience, which seems like it will make it impossible down the line to develop content for both sides. You can't make an indepth PVE encounters if one side has to worry about PVP and the other are in friendly lobbies.I think when the Chinese playtesters were leaking stuff for Marathon, they had actual gimmicks like a poison cloud was on a POI so you had to find/bring in a consumable to survive. Which then lets you interact with a terminal inside which spawns waves of enemies and a boss who drops good loot+keycard. You can then use that keycard to basically repeat this for even more rewards/high challenge. Its not super indepth, but its more than Arc has. Arc also has the issue of having such a big casual playerbase, nerfs make people quit. Wolfpacks just got hit, and unless they buff loot from a Rocketeer people will just not bother
>>733886649this feels like halo but with no masterchief super powers or tankinesseverything feels cheap. you die way too fuckin fast
>>733870489The reddit meme? so soon?
Were the playtesters just retarded?This game doesnt feel fun at all
>>733886775Speaking from experience, sometimes it IS really fucking difficult to turn off game dev tunnel vision and imagine how something will actually play in a person’s living room, as opposed to at the studio. I’ve had so many experiences where all the devs will play something and be like “this rips” and then we demo at a trade show or whatever and it’s a pile of problems we never foresaw. Context can make or break a lot of design decisions. My guess is they didn’t do nearly enough testing where the players had to go through ALL the menu bullshit, all the dialogue, all the selecting a quest, organizing their loadout, etc, only to spawn in, walk around in an empty field, and then get run down immediately by someone with no mic. There was probably a lot of “quick join” testing where it feels super fast paced and everyone’s all jazzed like “wow this is so quick! There’s nothing like it!” meanwhile not thinking about how fatiguing that’ll be in the context of a full product.
how long till people stop treating it like an arc raiders lootathon HELLO NEIGHBOR and start actively tryin to kill people by playin smart and not rushing in all the fuckin time?
>>733871005its cheaper to pay jeets
>>733870489What did you win?
Random but slightly related question...I'm the original artist behind the "quit having fun" meme...would it be pushing it if I sold stickers of last panel?
>>733887132>Were the playtesters just retarded?yes
>>733886887I’m gonna be real a lot of those issues are ultimately down to the fact that you can’t make everyone happy. It’s clear arc raiders is going for immersion and cinematic moments over sweat, and I think they do that better than any game on the market. People are always going to find something to complain about, and I don’t think they’re remotely close to being at risk of making enough people unhappy to kill the game.
>>733887171yeah it plays a lot different when you can load up with as much gear as you want and yolo everywhere possible. gear fear is just not there anymorethey didn't consider possibly playin with randoms and how that might affect the outcome either
>>733887171you can tell them face to face what the issues are and they will nod, say they're listening and do the exact oppositeThey had tarkov streamers in one of their playtest, all of them with the same "it won't get people off other games" answer when asked if they would switchI wouldn't call this dev tunnel visionthey should've scrapped it when they delayed it and after Arc Raider showed upBungie is "good" at making PvE games, not this kind of stuff
>>733886717it also doesnt equate only 100,000 people because players are constantly on and off-boarding. You could have 1 million players distributed over a 24-hour period.
>>733887648Trust me even if they wanted to do that there’s no way Sony would have let them. Publishers don’t give a single fuck about things like that, even moreso when dealing with the reptilians publishers actually get their liquidity from. They see “bungie” on a sheet, they see “known for their multiplayer gameplay” and they see “ok, here’s the market opportunity.” Once stuff like this is set in stone, you generally get a few chances to steer away from the iceberg, but they’d rather watch the ship crash, make some money off the tickets, and cut their losses than plan a new course midway and double down on unknown losses.
I can sense that you will fucking never see anyone cooperate with each other in this game or use prox chat for anything other than throwing slurs around. I’m inclined to think it’s because it’s an insanely low TTK fps but I don’t know what other extract shooters like tarkov are like in that regard.>>733886887I feel arc should put a ceasefire map variant in the rotation with pvp disabled. Just one map or something that changes every few hours where PvE players can be satiated. On the opposite end Stella montis basically now functions as the definitive PvP map seeing as how people can begin doing what they want (fighting each other) 30 seconds after spawn as opposed to hauling ass across dam or spaceport playing eye spy
yeah one shot by a shotgun thats dope man great ttk
Surely on release there will be singles/duos and not just trio right?
>>733887993they always fuck it up with the TTK in these games. gotta copy tarkov despite that is pretty much the mil simwe are playin some cyberpunk shit. we shouldn't be melted as a default
My favorite genre of the game is the one that encourages acting like a backstabbing sewer crawling Jew rat. Not ever actually engaging directly with other players or even using the loot I obtain unless I stockpile such a large amount it defeats the purpose of even continuing to play the game in the first place.I really don't get how anyone enjoys this shit.
>>733888079There are solos but it’s not a very good experience. With such low TTK It’s just melt people that never saw you and have the same happen to you when you let your guard down for a moment to loot or make the mistake of fighting the NPCs for too long. You will never see solo players teaming up to fight anything in this game
I just don't get this genre. I actually really like the concept of a very progression heavy extraction game but there's basically 0 progression here and the loot is ass, quests are ass, gunplay is kinda ass too. What are the people who make this genre of game smoking
>Vandal ultimate: you use a bit less stamina when dashing and jumping>Recon ultimate: Wallhack AoE scanUhhhh this doesn't seem very balanced
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>>733887956Can you even blame SonyBungie oversold themselves, crashed the TLOU2 online game, ran destiny into the ground because they had no manpower for marathon, and now it turns out it's gonna be another massive flop>>733888079Not happening unless streamers complain about iteven if they do it will take a year or so to implement because bungie is a small indie studio>>733888174It's a streamer genre, these game are semi-fun when played against bot or modded like SPTarkov
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>733888174its a fuckin jank genre comin from a jank mod from a jank game in the first placedo not know why it caught on. the worst is they never evolve past the cutthroat nonsensethese types play better like a battle royal. the gear hoarding thing feels like its just some dogshit to appeal to goblins
>>733870489>Concord: Gay Robots Edition
>hipfire lmg rounds into a die antwood phenotype point blank>they somehow dont dieok well thats nice never using lmg again
>>733888436I can’t, that’s why I said earlier in the thread bungie needs some serious auditing. This demo makes it pretty clear there are some really big issues over there. People go oh man, the layoffs are all about corporate greed and sure, to some extent, but I guarantee they already knew they weren’t getting their money’s worth with a lot of their devs. That can be due to a lot of factors though, underpaying and overworking people too much can waste even more money than overpaying and underworking sometimes. Just depends, I can’t really say what their specific problems are desu. I don’t work there or know anyone who has.
If I offered you $500 to play a game for 5 hours which one would you choose?>Concord>Marathon>Highguard>Battle-Born>Brink>Lawbreakers
>>733888274Smoking pole
>>733888883Marathon because desu I think it wont be a bad game
yea im done i could just play arc raiders instead
>>733888883I already played marathon for five hours today. Pay up daddy. Also ngl I kind of liked brink back in the day
>look like just another extraction shooter>it's just another extraction shooterCan I have shit like Synthetic but in first person instead
I like the aesthetic and setting, but it really sucks that it's an extraction shootertried a few matches and it's honestly boring, there's a lot of time running with nothing happening, and another big portion of time is spent managing items
>Win a PvP fight>Go to extract>the second we activate the point a drop ship comes right on top of us, drops 10+ guys who just shred the shit out of us>Also PvP is awkward cause everyone is a cyber-humanoid where in Arc its very clear cut who is a player and who is a NPC>Can't heal teammates so you have to awkwardly stop, drop stuff and wait for them to pick it up
>>733888864i gotta sleep but there's a lot of shit regarding bungie stupid management/devs hostility against the playerbase, i bet if you asked /dg/ they'll give you a nice rundown
>>733888883Brink, absolutely. I've put over a hundred hours into it already.
>>733889286>Can't heal teammatesLmao. Game release is less then 2 weeks btw.
>find 3 weird robots that turn invisible and do body slams>shoot them forever and run out of ammo before a single one of them dies>my squad gets wipedI legitimately don't know what was I supposed to do
>>733889468The enemy NPCs range from.boring to fucking insufferableAnd the worst part is that they dont even look interestingTheyre just humanoid jabronis
>>733889286That extract point was a guarded extract, they drop enemies but last longer than normal extracts. As for the second I agree, I’ve thought UESC guys are players and vice versa a bunch of times already. Weapons sound the same too. In arc you really can’t mistake one for the other.
This game seriously needed a halo style radar
>shits brutal solo>random squads are crapshoot of retards ranging from CoD sprint and run bros to Arc Raider Loot Goblins
what puzzle me is people still having faith in Bungie like, where have you been in last decade?
>crticize the game>retards already saying ITS NOT FOR YOU GO BACK TO ARCuhhhh... isnt this supposed to be the next big thing for bungie?sony spent billions on these guys will they be fine with just having a niche hardcore playerbase?
this genre never makes sense to me. if you want gunplay to work you need to have drop in and out to work.it will never work with an extraction shooter. you have to make the gun handling absolutely a crapshoot or you have to make people have more than 2 bullets worth of life in them.
This game's UI is fucking awful. Visual vomit.
>>733889550>Weapons sound the same tooAll the guns sound like a stapler
>>733889697D2 died after I had already lost interest but I really enjoyed it at launch desu, I just got tired of buying expansions. Otherwise I don’t really pay attention to “videogame news” in my free time, especially for games I don’t play. I think doing so is a massive waste of time and energy. I rarely even visit /v/ anymore, just when I want to whine about the occasional game I’ve actually played.
>>733889786Yep this is DOA.Sony suifs are gonna slaughter Bungie next financial report.
>>733889398One week, bro.
>>733870489You're a Bungie shill and it's really obvious
this should be peak hours right now. game mostly sold in the USA, east coast is fully home and playing before work/school tomorrow and west coast is starting to get home right now. if it doesnt peak right now, this game is gonna be another FOTM and have 20k players by the end of march.
>>733889786Sony spent million on Concord, Hunter Gathering and a lot more
>>733890040to be fair a lot of people arent aware of the server slam thing, every single person I personally mentioned it to went "isnt that coming out in march?"
What compels people to play these weird ass extraction shooter slop games? I legitimately don't get it. What's the appeal? Degenerate gambling? How the fuck is Arc Raiders so popular as well?
>the bungalator said he's excited to play and already salivating at the upgrade skill treeMARATHONBROS WE'RE SO BACK
>>733890182>Shroud love it tooWE WON BIGLY
>>733877602Good for him, ignorance is bliss
>>733890146I don’t love extraction shooters either but the enemies in arc are genuinely interesting, they behave in ways I’ve never seen in a game before, let alone a multiplayer game. I was a naysayer till I tried it, but now marathon has me thinking arc is just a case of things lining up just right.
Does this game really not have voice chat? Nobody talks.
Watching my friend play, might be one of the ugliest game I ever witness.
>>733890415I honestly think it might either be broken or that you have to hold right on the d pad to enable prox chat. I can’t tell, the menu is really obtuse about it.
>>733890293it helps that the common enemies in arc react to your shots in a meaningful way. you shoot a rotor, they spaz out. there are physics. in marathon, outside the canned animation for the enemy getting stunned, they are non-reactive. you put an entire mag and they just keep walking torwards you like nothing happend. bullet sponges, no weakspots like a rotor to hit or obvious shooting a leg to make them crawl. nope just bullet sponges and DPS checking your weapon.
>recreption is mixed so farBros... how fucked is Bungie?
I hate bungie, I don't want the game to do well, it doesn't DESERVE to do well, I don't have time and I shouldnt be playing a game like this because I have more important things to do, but I want to try it out
>>733886979damn, it’s too soon for this…
The game feels much more isolated than Arc, Arc actually feels like a little world with things going on across it, Marathon feels almost more like Dark Souls where it's just PvE and sometimes players will appear out of no where to try and fuck with you
Okay so what was wrong with all the playtesters? They were wrong for the alpha and now this as well. Did Bungie not send out invites to a diverse enough bunch? Like is it all just Bungiebros getting together having a circlejerk about how good the gunplay is or whatever the fuck they talk about 24/7?
>>733890182>Ninja loves it too yeah I'm thinking mainstream hit?
Releasing after Arc killed this game. The mogging is just unreal. This is some LoL (Arc) vs HoN (Marathon) type of shit
>>733890998Whats going to be dota then
>check gameplay>fog thicker than anon mother belly
call me a casual but nothing has ever come close, not tarkov, not arc raiders and specially not this slop
it’s over https://www.reddit.com/r/Marathon/s/W35Fgeb3kO>>733891026tarkov? idk
the fuck is silk limit?
such a cool setting wasted on extraction slop
>>733870489>forced turn acceleration and can't turn it off
WHY IS THE GANE STILL FUCKING WASHED OUT WITH ANTISOUL GASDIDNT EVERYONE BITCH ABOUT THIS LAST YEARNOW SHIT IS BLOOMING OUT THE ASS AND GASSY AS FUCK
>>733890929same issue they had with highguard. invite the big faggots in and dont listen to them if they say anything other than how great it is and thanks for the free sandwiches
they asking $40 jew coins for THIS?
>>733891228>cool
>resetera glazing the game >people comparing playing solo to resident evil death knell, at this point I won’t even bother trying the game, the streams were enough
>days before slam>endless marathong threads back to back with playtesters swearing up and down that its kino>server slam actually starts>threads all slowed down to a crawlWhat happened?
>>733870489wow it's another controller-only aim assist game with low ttk, what a shockertune in next time when normgroids who have no business playing pvp shooters hype up another controller-only aim assist game with low ttk
I told them the TTK and shields are an issue.Either shield rarity means very little and this is the baseline TTK to some extent which in my opinion is way too fast. Or shield rarity does matter and many firefights are going to be decided by who has higher ranked shields. Both choices and options fucking suck in my opinion.I was told I'm wrong, these are deliberate design choices. I've broached these subjects with the devs, they don't agree these are problems.
>>733890643This is also part of why players WANT to cooperate in arc btw. The enemies aren’t just robust, doing damage on them feels like you’re participating. It’s genuinely smart design. It also sells the game, imo part of why arc is so successful is just clips of enemies doing crazy shit.
>>733891483it's almost as if people can finally spend their time playing the game rather than shitposting
It's lame
>>733891563You know thats not true lmao/v/ threads for people who play the games are fast as fuck
just spent 20 minutes in a match running around doing a bunch of nothing while shooting bots while in low health. this is so fucking boring bruhh i cant be bothered
>>733891506reddit
You guys are giving it a fair chance right?
what am I supposed to do when I run out of ammo during a match?
4 matches in and i have yet to see a single player
>>733891903Die
>>733891714i think after playin arc raiders i can pin point exactly what the fuck is wrong with it.
Don't like it? The game is not for you.
>>733892095lmao the fucking forum obsessed with adding easymodes for fromsoft games suddenly going to bat for wholesome chungus bungie for designing utter fucking slop
>>733870489the only selling feature of this game is that it's an aim assist game for consolebabs.>>733871005the post is the paid advertisement you idiot.
>>733891903Uninstall
>>733891903become god
Some of you retards fail to understand that a "Small niche playerbase" is not nearly enough for a Bungie title with the amount Sony has invested in the company.
>>733892664theyre basically 5 million in the hole3.6 from studio acquisition500mil + from marathon500mil + their advisor role for Sony Live service games (most live service sony games flopped, including Concord)
>>733891509I’d summarize it as the arc are fun to fight, marathon enemies simply are not.Arc have great design like you said, the enemies in marathon are barebones bullet sponges with bland dogshit design that function like they’re from a mediocre game made 15 years ago, there’s actually nothing interesting to even do in marathon BUT shoot other players for 3 seconds before someone dies.Also the ticks are hilarious, like something straight out of a Nickelodeon shovelware game
>>733892804yeah the marathon ship better have more engaging enemies than bullet sponge that shits out damage because oof. not fun at all to fight.
>>733892203>shitters who have been asking for shitter easy modes for years are going to bat for the company willing to design an easy mode game for shittersi don't see what's surprising about that, the post reads almost identically to old battlefield shitters hyping up "hardcore" mode when it's just an easier version of the game
>>733892849The problem is that dont you need to grind up to be able to access the ship
i swear they always playtest these types of games wrong and now you're going to be left with a busted game for about 1-2 years before it starts to feel like a proper game instead of a polished janked ass piece of shit from another piece of jank shit game from 10 years ago.
>>733892797meant to say 5 billion in the hole
>>733892967But they already playtested the first timeIts the game got delayed to begin with
>>733893039it got playtested multiple times and allowed the TTK to get this low for a very good reason.i really want to know what the dev's visioned how this game was supposed to play out because you dont take an extraction shooter with this capacity and expect it to play exactly like tarkov with this ttk.
>>733892967The game comes out in 6 days. This is the final product and maybe only some bug fixes might happen. Shits fucked.
>>733893242>>733892967Wait for the kino pve on the shit you retards
shan't be playing this trash
>>733893325its not even about the pve. the robots are a threat enough with how flimsy characters arethe pvp damage is so fuckin busted and only works in a game like tarkov, a military sim jank piece of shit. not a futuristic cyberpunk game with fuckin character abilities like a hero shooteri thought arc raiders was bad but not compared to this. and they JUST fixed the problem gun in that game.
>>733893325>Wait for the kino pve>with no abbm lmao have fun trying to do the boss and getting ratted out tyhe ass
>>733871038It was pretty egregious because the artist they stole from was not very well known.
>>733889286>>Also PvP is awkward cause everyone is a cyber-humanoid where in Arc its very clear cut who is a player and who is a NPCwew lad, if this is tripping you up you would not last a milisecond in tarkovbut no the bots all have the same blocky navy blue look, some commanders have white accents, they also have different heavier-robotic footsteps
>>733893406Oh cool. Was gunna download it tonight just to give it a shot but guess not.
>onky troonera is fellating the gameIts over
>>733893734why do you as a man have resetera open
>>733893734That's how you know a game is shit. If Reserera likes it. I bet they loved Relooted too.
>>733870489genuinely disappointed in anyone who engaged with this dogshit brought to you by bungie
>be console pleb>pick up item is X>drop item is x in the backpack menulmao
MarateensDestinydadsHalomenOnigranniesMythgrampshow are we jamming? are we digging?
>>733893870>Destiny Dads most popular guild in D2We need a MarathonMoms (Trannies) guild for Marathon.
>>733889614Can't open the map while you're moving is fucking annoying
>Primetime US with both west and east coast back home and playing >Burntpeanut, hottest streamer right now shilling the shit out of the game>+5k up tick on CCU and already going downholy shit its fucking over
>>733894502wow expac came out today too
>>733894502Demo is F2P 1 week before it's release and has less players then Arc Raiders currently. It slop and has flopped.
>collecting bunch of garbages and leaveWOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW what a great game concept
>when you are in body horror contest and your opponent is california
