The greatest action game trilogy of all time. Yoko Taro is a genius.
drakengard 2 and 3 bros..
Pathetic
>>733898856>>733899841Drakengard 2 and 3 are more like side ventures for Yoko Taro than his passion projects.
>>733900061He was barely involved with 2 so much that it's not canon. 3 is a true Taro game
>>733898721Replicant > Gestalt.The Microslop Westoid localization is insulting.>>733900061Taro was not involved with #2 at all, but #3 was absolutely one of his passion projects.
>>733900061Secondary detected
>>733900398Nah sorry I'd rather play a handsome chad than a twink
>>733900626Twink prostitute, no less
>>733900626>t. obese amerimutt
>>733900626This. Papa Nier is mucher kinoer.
>>733900626I don't think he's handsome, but at the very least it makes more sense for that wall of a man to be the Maou.
>>733898721These games are all genuinely terrible.
>>733900626Kratos-wannabe dad is UGLY as hell, and stupid as a brick. His game also completely butchers and censors the whole point of Nier 1.
>>733902035No it doesn't.
>>733900626the dad angle makes so much less sense than the brotheralso dad was only made for the west so if you prefer him you have shit taste
>>733902101It 100% does.The whole theme of Nier 1 is children growing in a dying world, being exploited all the time thanks to their naivety, growing up into a violent mirror image of what you've been fighting from the get-go.Not only that, but the Papa version completely demolishes even the simplest symbolic elements of the game, such as every other major NPC you come across representing something Nier himself goes through / will go through eventually.There's no reason why a grown-ass man would have to do stupid oddjobs to feed his kid, but it makes sense when it's a literal kid taking care of another one.In case of the Junk heap brothers, the similarities are even more obvious, but again - lost on Papa Nier. He also literally leaves two young kids to look after each other, instead of even humoring the thought of taking them with him.Naturally, all the sexual themes and romance were totally nuked in the Westoid Gestalt version, and the time-skip serves no purpose in said release either.
>>733902625Not to mention, there's no good reason he couldn't use spears and greatswords in act 1.
>>733902625>There's no reason why a grown-ass man would have to do stupid oddjobs to feed his kidBecause the world and its economy are fucked.Taking the junk heap brothers in would make literally zero sense when he's already struggling to make ends meet as it is. And even though they're brothers and Yonah is Nier's daughter the parallels in dynamics are the same.The time skip serves the same purpose in both versions, which is to show that humanity or rather, the gestalts, are well and truly fucked.
>>733902901>the obese merimutt is actually trying to defend the raped and butchered version of one of the best games ever
>>733902991>No worthwhile response Concession accepted.
>>733902991Cool. Papa Nier>Twink Nier.
>>733900061retard
>>733898721Our spic proved it alreadyhttps://youtu.be/P_8xaTvLFEg?si=WNQiuARzrzBAbSCU
>>733902991>one of the best games everlol
>>733898721They play like ass though, they just have good music and good story (except Automata)
>>733903405Exactly right.
>>733903349Fuck off with the eceleb shilling
lowkirkenuiely playing 360 Papa Nier, 2 hours in waiting for the game to warrant a remakeOST is a bit annoying but it's a million times better than whatever the fuck Drakengard was doing
>>733903041What is there to say that hasnt already been said ITT? The game was written with brother Nier in mind, all of the themes of the game and his story are meant for a young boy growing into an adult and not only have less meaning often make literally no sense for a deadbeat father. The only reason, and I mean only reason papa nier exists is because the yoko taro was told he HAD to do it in order to sell the game in the west, because you retarded little faggots cannot understand why a brother would care so deeply for his sister. That is how broken and damaged your culture is. The fact that you actually prefer papa nier just proves that the Japanese were right and Americans do not understand what it means for siblings to truly love eachother. Which is fucking horrifying to think about. What has gone so fundamentally wrong with your country for you to end up like this?
>>733902901>Because the world and its economy are fucked.The other people aren't doing child-tier odd jobs though>The time skip serves the same purpose in both versions, which is to show that humanity or rather, the gestalts, are well and truly fucked.You can't be serious. The timeskip has nothing to do with that. It doesn't really have any impact when the "you're all grown up and you're done being a kid, you're fucking pissed" element is completely missing.You need to stop grasping so hard, it's pathetic.
>>733903592>That is how broken and damaged your culture is.I would say it's more "that's how broken and damaged Japanese perspective of American culture was in 2010"
>>733898721automata sucks ass
>>733903641but these types of threads where retarded burgers still not only defend Papa Nier but prefer him prove that their perception was CORRECT.
>>733903689>one guy posting in a thread on an imageboard for basement dwellers>even with that biased sampling, only one guy is actually defending itCome on man
>>733903736>>one guyHow new are you to /v/ and 4chan in general that you dont know how common this sentiment is?
dad was made for western audiences who preferred gruff space marinesi don't mind him but brother canonically makes more sense to the story imo
>>733903672I wouldn't say that, but it didn't hit me like drakengard and replicant/gestalt
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>>733904013Now I want Papa Nier dressed as 9s
>>733903568I legit had to check if my Drakendard disc was scratched cuz the music sounds like a busted cd stuck on a 5second loop
>>733903568really? i went in the nier completely blind and the OST was the only reason I kept playing
>>733903605>The other people aren't doing child-tier odd jobs thoughThere's still a demand for oddjobs regardless and people with "real" jobs are all doing poorly. The fishing minigame makes it easy to overlook, but the fish population is way down and they aren't biting.>The timeskip has nothing to do with thatThe timeskip does have to do with that. All the sheep are dead because the shades killed them all. The second part opens with Shades inside the village and with armor. Humanity is on the backfoot and nothing can be done about it.>you're fucking pissedThat angle isn't missing at all. He's fucking pissed either way and the difference between 18 to 21 or whatever isn't so great that I'd call it the difference between child and man either.
>>733898721Which Nier/s should I play? Aren't there like two or three versions of Nier with the same title? I've only played Automata.
>>733904185I'm specifically talking about the high-pitched choir in lost shrine that just keeps going. I like most of the songs so far.
>>733904242As someone who prefers papa nier. The remake will do fine. And the only reason I'm saying this is because you don't know anything about the soundtrack, which was raped in the remake. But I assume you have no knowledge of it, so you won't get hurt by the downgrade.
Anyone want to contest this >>733902696 point?
>>733904242I prefer the ps3 version because I don't care for the new extra ending, but the new boss is kino.
Top 3 character action games of all time don't @ me:DMC3SekiroMGR:RNear tomato has some nice ass and the shmup segments are fun but the game itself feels like a watered down Bayonetta.
>>733904242if you have a way to play the original then play the original, if not then the remake is a decent enough replacement
>>733904374Because the shades didn't have armor that needed to be broken yet and those fuckers are heavy.
>>733904242Nier Automata is a sequel to the original 2010 NieR, released originally on PS3 and X360.In Japan, it was called "Nier Replicant".The Microsoft's execs didn't think it would sell well as it was, with the "pretty boy" MC and some controversal themes, so they changed the MC and censored fucktons of the story.This is how we got the "Nier Gestalt".Originally, the Nips planned to make use of this, by making Replicant a PS3 only, and Gestalt the Xbox only versions, providing a sort-of Pokemon Red/Blue kind of double take.But thanks to Microsoft's laziness, greed, and whatev, we only got the Gestalt here in the EU and USA. And they even dropped the "Gestalt" from the name.Few years ago, a sort-of HD remaster of the Nier Replicant, "Version 1.224...", was released for PC and modern consoles.It's essentially an expanded port of the OG Jap Nier 1, that includes a lot of canonical content that wasn't included in the OG game, such as the ending [E], which was an Art Book -only side story for a whole decade.If you want the most authentic experience and the most content, I highly recommend playing the Nier Replicant v1.224.And play it with the English dub. It's actually better than the JP original, and I say this as a turbo weeb who greatly prefers the Jap dub in Automata.
>>733904242Don't play the original it's bad, those drones are retarded. There are mods to satisfy most of their complains and the game is much much better even without them.You can play Automata or Replicant first, either way you're getting twists and surprises.
>>733904343>>733904387>>733904417>>733904460>>733904540ty nierfriends
>>733904460I wanted to try out 360's gameplay but if I'm going to lose plot for it then I might as well go straight to the remake.
>>733904412Nier Automata is not a lazy hack & slash game like those other ones. It's an action-RPG with a plethora of other genres thrown in the mix.It's a much more chill, more immersive experience. Closest thing to it really are the N64 era Zeldas and the OG Nier... which literally parodies Zelda OoT throughout the whole story.All in all, Automata is by far the PLATINUM's best game, because it punches way beyond its weight in terms of content, atmosphere, storytelling, and gameplay variety.
>>733904605Nier Replicant is brutal to 100% or like complete properly, it will drain the fuck out of you unless you really take it easy.Nier Automata is kinda dull at times but super kino overall.Both games have a bunch of mods if you're into that, especially Automata.
>>733904628Yeah. I recommend the remake and if you really want more to play the original.
>>733904628>I wanted to try out 360's gameplay but if I'm going to lose plot for it then I might as well go straight to the remake.You honestly should.As an oldfag who actually played the Gestalt originally on PS3, and quite liked it, the more I read about the changes and cuts in the Western release, the more annoyed I honestly became.The remake ain't perfect, with its literal Nier Automata knockoff gameplay (Nier shouldn't move like a Yorha android, if you ask me), kinda typical modern, anti-soul-foggy looks and some questionable changes to the OST... but it's still faaar from the worst shit ever. And there are mods to alleviate some of that jazz if you really can't stand them.But again, getting the OG intended story and characters is such a big win, that I can forgive the rest.
>>733904647>All in all, Automata is by far the PLATINUM's best game, because it punches way beyond its weight in terms of content, atmosphere, storytelling, and gameplay variety.*release one of the best games ever**die for no reason*what did they mean by this
>>733904803Kamiya left
>>733904803>*die for no reason*They died because Squeernix were a bunch of fags that cucked their IP and literally prevented Taro from creating a sequel, three times in a row. And when Replicant remake was made, it was outsourced to literal-whos.
automata is stellar blade but with worse gameplay
>>733904858unf
>>733904803All the talent left after 2017.
>>733904797I made most of the comparisons made between the versions before the game came out because I just love shitposting and I can confirm the remake utterly mogs the original in art design. Some things do look better in the original but ONLY in still images. In motion the remake is 10 trilion times better in animation, effects, and just raw fidelity and you'd have to be retarded to disagree with that. You can also improved the remake using reshade if it's too bland or whatever whereas you can't really improve the original.The only objectively worse things are like the office, the red orbs maybe, and Emil's head texture(what were they thinking?). Other comparisons like what you posted flash on the screen for like 2 seconds so its one of those literally who gives a shit moments.
>>733905072I also prefer how Emil's head in the the original was completely static iirc. In the remake I think his teeth move.
>>733905072This nigga gets it.
>>733898721The first one is an awful action game. Automata is definitely fun but makes some big mistakes.
Is there like an undub of OG Nier?
>>733905196No, his teeth moved in the original.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy3jvyjPZBk&t=37s37 seconds in for an example.
>>733905196I can't recall but that texture in the remake definitely is worse.When I was comparing the two I was actually team OG but after playing the remake I had to give them credit for doing a good job with the visuals. I will say that they really messed up the character model rigging though, that part was super amateur and adult Nier looks like some kind of freak standing idly lol. I guess the others are fine though.
>>733905072I want a remake like this for Drakengard 3, make it less unreal engine
>>733904204It took me an hour walking in and out of the Forest of Myth to get this nigga to spawn
>>733904374He wasn’t property trained with them.
>>733898721Drakengard is a wild ride but I would NEVER put greatest action game anywhere near it. The game is actively miserable to play especially if you actually get the all maxxed weapon ending legitimately.
>>733903889I see it zero to one time in every thread so it's probably the same person every time
>>733904460>so they changed the MC and censored fucktons of the story.What did they even censor other than Emil being a homo?
>>733904540>You can play Automata or Replicant firstDon't listen to this retard, you absolutely should play Replicant first
>>733906653This actually
>>733906575It's just not the sort of thing that needs to be autistically defended. I defended it this time, but I probably won't even open another Nier thread for ages and even then I may not feel like posting anything about him.
>>733906653most nier fans didnt
>>733902540Based post
>>733900626https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbmS4vBUtQ
>>733902696He is a literal child
>>733907335Manchild, that is
>>733907335Reading comprehension, nigga. I was referring to Papa Nier.
>>733900503Yea drakengard is the secondary forgettable series which had no influence on automatas success, you're right anon
>>733907847>Yea drakengard is the secondarySecondary truly detected.Without Drakengard 1, there would be no NieR.Without NieR, there would be no Automata.You dumb, stupid, smooth-brained, knuckle-dragging, spear-chucking, ebonics-spewing hominid.
>>733907335retard
>pedo priest joins the party>a small child joins shortly afterWhat did Taro mean by this?
Inb4 Kainefags start posting>>733904460>And play it with the English dub. It's actually better than the JP original, and I say this as a turbo weeb who greatly prefers the Jap dub in Automata.SHIEET. I've been playing the remake with the Japanese dub just because of how they fucked up 2B in the English dub of Automata. Oh well, maybe next playthrough.
>>733898721Drakengard is actual shovelware though.
