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>>734005775you lost Ferret Fucker
>>734005775>there are people who actually believe this is what SKG is asking for
>>734005775>gets btfo in another thread>shifts goalposts
>>734005775>Commies are in support of proper ownershipPerhaps I judged them too harshly...
>YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY PAY FOR THAT PRODUCT
Owning property is communism.
>ferret rapists in shambles
If I'm not allowed to reverse engineer your game, I don't own it.
>>734005865actually yes,dev studios are to waste man-hours preparing >altering game content to fit a smaller local server>net-code patch of the game itself to work with the new custom servers>the custom server itself, (can be one or many binaries)>documentation, step by step, troubleshooting, etc.>support for future OS updates, because they will not be giving source code (so windows 12, windows 13 etc need to be supported)
>>734005775Or else I'll be a loyal slave that will own nothing and be happy!
>>734006045>"WAHHHH NOW WE HAVE TO KEEP SELLING THE GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO MAINTAIN ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT"
>>734006045p sure he'd be happy w the devs releasing the software with little to no warranty or support and letting the community take it from there
>>734005775VIDEO GAMES, FAGGOT, VIDEO GAMES!
>>734006000do you own the fucking sun?you can enjoy the sun, but you don't ""own"" it
>>734006135woah anon great counterpoint
>>734006135I didn't pay for the fucking sun
>>734006102but if it becomes law and a "forever" compatibility is required, then it only leads to:>source code giveaway, so the community can build against the new glibc or whatever>as long as the company is alive they have to maintain the server binaries to be up to dateso small studios are beyond fucked.nice going there
>>734006045wow it's almost like when you sell products to customers you're subject to rules and can't just take advantage of them "let the buyer beware" style.
if communism means owning my games then call me Marx
>>734005775>You could setup online servers for any game for decades already>Somehow it's communism to ask for server binaries from developersShalom
How contrarian one needs to be to go against something that can ONLY bring benefits to themselves and everyone?
>>734006121It's about the preservation of video games,a gentle reminder in a "meme" format that this is still an unresolved issue.go sneed somewhere else
>>734006313>ugly anime avataryeah, you are a fat ugly slob, LMAO
>>734006045>>734006223I love how this shit flies out the window when you look at just one game where these changes were supposedly "impossible" until they weren't.
>>734006223OK so why would they add a "forever compatability" rule when it clearly isn't very good?
>>734006313Being contrarian gets (you)'s so the dopamine fried retards here will do anything to feel a little bit alive
>>734005945Nah, commies pushed for significant increases to copyright laws that infringe on freedom of speech, because they would encourage the consolidation of publishers and render them malleable to bolshevik interest groups infiltrating both governments and investors.The soviet union and other initiatives may not have gotten anywhere if people had been able to publish regime critical literature without jumping through hoops to get access to any publisher willing to touch anything that didn't fellate the communist party.This rampant escalation of copyright law has lead us to our current situation and is still being abused by the commies for the exact same purposes, they're using it to consolidate all means of publishing under the smallest umbrella of control possible.Movements like SKG seek to carve out obligations that need to be fulfilled to match the rampant privileges granted by modern communist-serving copyright.
>>734006223Do car companies have to manufacture and sell you spare parts forever as long as they exist as a company?
>release community servers for allegedly well beloved game>game still remains abandonedSKGsisters?!?!?!?
>>734006510idk, but imagine just having to give away binaries.sure they work now, but can they work forever?so imagine this was going on in 1995 and they released server binaries for windows 95,windows 95 server binaries only work for windows 95, not windows 11. so the game does not work.so what then?Only a full source code disclosure can mitigate that, where community can alter the source code to be able to compile against modern windows versions
>>734006630Not exactly a fair analogy because you get third-parties developing parts. Or rather, "unbranded" parts from the exact same factory.
>>734006045You're so obviously baiting I'm just going to post Alma in the middle of a kick flip
>>734006045if notch could do it with minecraft so can multi million dollar corpo no?
>>734006045Devs might actually have to do work instead of setting up monetization schemes. How horrible.
>>734006313It's the American way. They're brainwashed to go against anything that benefits them, if it hurts their corporate overlords. It's funny though that the face of SKG is an American
>>734006773You're right, we should let car companies the right to permanently render our cars unusable.
>>734006045>NOOOOO we shouldn't put in work to comply with consumer protection laws!!!>we should be free to screw over every buyer and give nothing in return for their money
>>734006408Funnily enough, The Crew (the game that got Ross riled up) has an offline-mode switch in its executable. But since it's encoded, the game remains dead
>>734006758You can emulate older operating system so I don't see how that would matter
>>734006313whenever you give the goverment more power to do good, they will do 99% bad things with it and 1% the actual thing you wanted this has happened over a billion times across every single country for centuries, you cannot and should not trust the goverment to do good thingswhen this eventually backfires, you'll ask the goverment to make more rules and restrictions and the process will repeat itself
>>734005775>NOOOOOOOOO EVERY GAME SHOULD BE ALWAYS ONLINE, REQUIRE A RETINAL SCAN, A SEMEN SAMPLE AND YOUR BLOOD AND EVERY 5 MINUTES IT MUST SHOCK YOUR BALLS!!
>>734005775I just want a ruling to happen either way so we know where we stand. Not so long ago EU has mandated smartphones now have to receive five years of security updates, for example. Also shit like this now has to be on boxes for quick information. All baby steps in the right direction.
>Europe makes sure I own what I buy>Europe prosecutes the Epstein deep swampHow do I mentally deal with this as an American?
>>734006045its basically written to prevent developers from going out of their way from making the game non-functional. they're not obliged to make it functional forever.
>>734007013Just call it communism.
>>734006996except eu is now obsessed with making ukraine its project for the next decade where they can launder money at
>>734007013Just wait for the US to start bombing the EU after Iran.
>>734007013You turn on your Ellison brand news and give praise to Israel, Palantir and Thiel like a good American.
>>734006927microsoft does not provide windows 95. so you can't legally obtain it, so....>>734006814minecraft is a simple game and was built from the ground up to work with local servers, you can't just downscale a complex monster cluster of server processes down that easily
>>734007013By pointing to the First Amendment when Brits get jailed for posting a Tweet
>>734006983Sure, if your government is American, or any other third world shit-hole
>>734006045>>734006045Waste hours?No no.All games will be forced to used dedicated server systems and st the end of life simply hand out the files.Just like in the 1990s and early 2000s.And that's fucking based
>>734006408I'm 99% sure that only happened because one guy modded the game and did what was supposedly impossible to change because the game was "designed that way".
>>734007013how many times did you get raped by browns today? if it's only 5 you're still doing better than most of europe
>>734006983corporations will sell you a poison to kill yourself with.
>>734007094good. start with France.
>>734005775Wasn't a problem before.>>734005865It's one possibility to let people play games they bought
>>734005775Good morning saar, how is weather in mumbai on this beautiful day?
>>734005775>skg lists clearly what they want on the site>people still have million and one interpretationsare you all just contrarians or plain retarded?
>>734007296It's worse, they're American
>>734006983>Looks at European food safety standards>No matter where I go in the EU I know food is safe>Looks at American food safety standards>Lol wtf I have to read ingredients on everything I buy and spend way too much time pre.selecting restaurants Yeah idk guy
>>734007296Have you seen the literacy rates recently?
>>734007296why not both
>>734005775nobody has to do anything NOW. every live-service game that currently exists can be destroyed if the publishers want (we're going to have YEARS of threads where every time a game like Helldivers shuts down confused dimwits say 'uh i thout the e u banned this'). There's probably even going to be a grace period for games that are currently in development. The only demand made of the ghouls in the triple A battle pass industry concerns the games that they're going to start considering making in the future, and most of them probably won't even bother with multiplayer servers. if Helldivers 2 was made under the proposed wording, in 2040 it would be converted to a single player shooter with three maps and no customisation instead of what we'll actually get which is a static thanks for playing screen.
>>734007127>microsoft does not provide windows 95. so you can't legally obtain itretarded shill emulation on a virtual machine isn't illegal.
>>734007127>was built from the ground up to work with local serversso what's the problem again?
>>734007185London and Stockholm aren't "most of Europe" besides you have browns since your country's inception AND you waged a civil war to keep niggers in
>>734007185>Looks at crime rates in USA>Looks up a rates in the EUHmmm
>>734007296paid shill, just like how the European commission had a full document ready to attack the movement months before they had reached the signature threshold.Even to this day the commission is just repeating the same things pirate software and other industry plants are repeating without logic.
>>734007204you can choose not to buy the poison, and find someone who isn't selling that, the goverment is also responsible for making it easy for corporations that lobby them to sell an inferior product
>>734006313Have you considered that they are paid for it?If something goes against the interests of giant corporations, 5 dollars spent on some indian to slander it is not out of the question
>>734006045>waste man-hoursby developing games as opposed to...?
>>734007430ok where to obtain a win95 iso then.legally.please respond.oh... what's that?? THEY DON"T SELL WIN95 ANYMORE???YOU NEED TO GO TO EBAY???ALRIGHTY THENYOU ARE A FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER!!
>>734006983>says this as corporations have made the hobby the board is about utterly unaffordable because the government has sub-zero interest in regulating them- and in fact the opposite, in protecting them from regulationIdk how anyone is ancap-adjacent in the current year, your belief system was retarded and is now patently retarded.
>>734006540>The soviet union and other initiatives may not have gotten anywhere if people had been able to publish regime critical literature without jumping through hoops to get access to any publisher willing to touch anything that didn't fellate the communist party.As if the existence of anti-communist literature could be a threat to an entire totalitarian apparatus lol, you'd get shot and thrown into a mass grave
>>734007481>it's ok for me to get raped by browns because a lot of blacks shoot each other in america
>>734007481>comparing one nation to an entire continenteuropoor education everyone
>>73400729654% of Americans can't read. The older ones can phonetically recite words in front of them like reading a foreign language, and the younger ones are traibed to guess what sentences mean, but the majority would not be considered literate in Europe. There are charities that offer free adult literacy education but they don't have much adoption from native English speakers
>>734007129>Thinking his constitutional rights matter>Can't point to the first amendment when he gets DMCA'd, because copyright law does not respect the constitution and the unconstitutional adjustments have been retroactively justified by the Supreme Court as being for "EU parity"Brits aren't EU anyway.
>>734007170Yeah. People were complaining about poor performance, and that the speed-up function was disabled because the servers couldn't handle it. EA claimed there was nothing they could do because of how the game was designed. Some random guy managed to hack the game to run offline, proving that EA lied. Not longer after EA released an update that enabled offline mode
>>734007580making actually new games that people care about? and not some 20 year old garbage that only 4 autists will play
I wish the EU would care as much about the European people and European heritage as they did with consumer rights
>>734007584Bad example, since Windows is considered a critical infrastructure and all isos of all versions are hosted at many places, including Microsoft serversCan't you come up with a better example?
>>734007528>100% of the food industry is owned by corpos>literally no way to not buy poisoned food>decide to grow your own instead>get sued for using protected seeds and animals or get ransacked by niggers protected by lawGood luck buddy
>>734007708I'm not even American, I just wish my country didn't have hate-speech laws
>>734007687comparable size, and the EU has a higher total population
>>734007296ADHDFor this site's case it's that, and a weird conditioning to not read anything more than a sentence or two long.
>>734007650>the government has sub-zero interest in regulating them- and in fact the opposite, in protecting them from regulationyeah dude, the goverment is totally anti-regulation, that's why you have to pay a billion taxes and go through a trillion meaningless burocratic processes to open a small business, that's because of how little regulation there is>your belief system was retarded and is now patently retarded.the irony
>>734006758They're not gonna work forever and I don't expect them to, not to mention the movement is only asking for games to be left in a "relatively" playable state, using an intentionally vague term so companies can decide how faw they want to go. I think it's reasonable that such binaries support whatever OSs are available at the time of the game's release and that it would be unreasonable to expect a 20 year old game to run on a modern OS. My original Diablo CD doesn't work on windows 11 but it works fine on windows 98 which is what I had when I bought it and I think that's perfectly fine. There's lots of ways to run things made for older hardware and software.
>>734007767>get sued for using protected seeds and animals or get ransacked by niggers protected by lawand you seriously think the problem isn't the goverment suing you or not allowing you to protect your propriety from niggers? it sounds like you agree with me
>>734007754>including Microsoft serversLINK. NOW.
>>734007690>traibedhow embarrassing
posted it again
>>734007013Send a bazillion dollars to Israel
>>734005775>You will own your videogames and you will be happy!vs.>You will own nothing and everything will be AI powered on a streaming service!You know what? I'm with those that want to own their videogames. People that are against SKG are genuine subhumans.
>>734007820*reasonably not relatively
This button kills the live service games industry
>>734005775Sneed
>>734005775>Give me access to your proprietary toolkit for setting up a local server NOWbasedthey should ban sales of video games unless they ship the entire fucking source code + assets if I'm going to be perfectly honest, market access is not a right
>>734008021Similarly-
>>734007949ok this is actually anti-semetic
>>734007816Nah you're living through what happens if AI isn't regulated. The economy isn't a wholesome chungus free market without intervention, it's an optimized hellscape where the meta for making number go up is completely removed from life being good. You either know this or aren't worth speaking with.
>>734007127>can't legally obtain it so...Yeah yeah quit making up situations that won't happen
>>734007584uh oh!shilly had a melty!you just do it.you aren't breaking any laws, dumb shill
>>734007894The problem is the government not doing its job yea, before lawsuits were a thing corpos would just send assassins after your ass
I agree with Ross' goals here but it's also a non-issue. As he points out himself, these games and companies willingly choose to kill themselves and their products.Obviously this is a problem for them and the people that like their games but it also means there's a niche in the market.The developers that start publishing their tools and source code more readily, like ID and Epic do, will likely see success and longevity for it the same way they do.No ironic pun intended here, but Doom is eternal as a result of its source release. They still make money off it while the world at large has stewarded and fostered it, benefitting both the original owners and the consumers/users at large too.Meanwhile we have proprietary dead games like Concord coming out and disappearing forever in what, 2 weeks?I'd be glad if this was solved and forced via legislature, but ultimately I think this is an economical and social problem.It's less important that companies be forced to follow these patterns and more important that gamers just support good products instead of bad ones.Bad products are less likely to exist if you don't give their publishers money to make them. And the opposite is true for good products, support those and they will not only flourish, they will lead by example that others want to imitate even if only for greed reasons rather than the fundamental quality aspect.
I HATE when the gubbermint tries to enforce consumer protection laws so I dont get scammed, it is overreach and literally 1984I LOVE when the gubbermint uses my money on isreal and sends fellow americans to die for it though, thats based
>>734008178THIS IS NOT A RELIABLE WAY OF OBTAINING WINDOWS 95I ALREADY MENTIONED EBAYWhat if>all sellers gauge price to $10000>all copies are soldwhat then. What is a reliable LAW-LEGAL way of obtaining windows 95 so that I can run the windows 95 only server?Please respond. quick.
>>734008139>there is no goverment regulation>what about all of this fucking mandatory regulation, taxes and bullshit that completely discourages the market from giving people alternatives?>uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVEN'T REGULATED AI ENOUGH AND YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ECONOMY!unironically kill yourself
this will conclude with a mandated warning on the game box/steam page/first startup reminding you that you're purchasing a license and that the game relies on external servers and service may end at any time at the discretion of the developer.
>>734007914https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/4105453/installing-win95-to-separate-drive-to-run-old-softMicrosoft support will HELP you figure out how to emulate windows 95, dumb shill :)
>>734007136>america>third worldis this a new europoor cope?
>>734007296There are "people" on Internet expecting hypocrisy, ill intents or brownie points farm behind any genuinely helpful or good deed because they never seen anyone besides themselves in a mirror and they never acted like this in their life, and trying to force their twisted view into reality by any mean.Also talking heads that are being paid for doing so (PirateSoftware).
Now things are beginning to make sense. More later.
>>734008257If it's not clear by the giant legal documents you are expected to agree with every time you open a modern game, things need to changeGame companies are currently too predatory and evil, and they need keeping in check by movements like this
>>734008324This will 100% happen, but they're actually looking for a SOLUTION not a warning. Unless they actually put into print when, explicitly, they plan to kill the online service which no one sane would ever do. Hell, even EULA isn't legally binding in EU so putting it there wouldn't do anyhting.
>>734008324>may end at any timeThat's fine, just give a date.All you need to do is give an expiration date and it's fine.
I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™ (2014) by Ubisoft©"I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™ (2014) by Ubisoft©"NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!
>>734008526Is there any good reason for me to not be able to play The Crew™ (2014) by Ubisoft©?
>>734008302>not reliableSeems pretty reliable to me>B-but what ifBut nothing, you can make the exact same argument for physical CD games that no longer work on modern OSs. Even if the price soars, even if all ebay copies disappear, that doesn't make 95 no longer obtainable. I can still hunt it down and buy it legally. It make take some time, but it's still possible. Besides, I still don't see why a game developer should be forced to update their ancient game for newer systems. That doesn't sound very "reasonable" and I'm sure they'd agree.
>>734008304>obviously talking about ai companies if you can even slightly understand context, which the government was so averse to regulating for the sake of consumers that they tried to enshrine "no AI regulation in the immediate future" into law>erm actually the government does regulate people >if the government stopped regulating a good competitor would simply show up and put the AI companies that don't turn a profit, that nobody on the ground level wants, that are propped up by an ouroboros of investment that's liable to blow up the american economy any moment out of business!subhuman and/or disingenuous shill
>>734008591The Crew 2 is available which is like the first one but with more tracks, cars and more features>>734008341that's a forum question, and sure it says you "can" install windows 95 or something.but NIGGER WHERE IS A DOWNLOAD LINKLINK, NOW. GIVE ME A LINK FROM OFFICIAL SOURCE TO DOWNLOADD O W N L O A D
>>734008502>devs have to commit to their live service flops and can't pull the plug early when they're failingThis would be so fucking funny.
>>734005775>mfw studios could just freeze the game in the state it is, disable the features that required now absent infrastructure, and keep selling it while making those changes clear in the new documentation Alas, vidya industry is fucking retarded.
>>734008720Already gave you a link :)You are a retarded shill so you can't ACTUALLY click on anything lmao
>>734005775what do you get out of pretending to be retarded, OP?
>>734008760They could just release the sever software
>>734008641you clearly have no idea what is even going on,you are so fucking dumb, please please please close the tab and never replyA LEGAL WAY OF OBTAINING WINDOWS 95you can't be serious to expect people to be downloading windows 95 isos from shoddy websitesor even having to rely on old stock that will eventually run out.lmao, what a fucking moron. the LAW requires a robust method,not a >sure that community site that runs on donations hosts win95 isos (for now)
>>734005775Did you think slapping a communist logo on something is going to actually convince anyone?Lmao
>>734006540What THE FUCK are you babbling about you delusional fuck. Copyright laws barely even exist in post soviet countries. They controlled publishers via censorship laws not copyright.
>>734006135That's the most fucking retarded thing I've ever heard anyone say. Are you from reddit?>>734006824>conversation about contrarian faggots, a universal thing in every country on earth>"MUST BE AMERICANS."Nigger.
>>734008716Nta but nobody's talking about ai here outside of you anon, have you thought that maybe letting something that stupid live rent-free inside of your head might be a bad thing?
>>734008890>the law requires a robust methodWhat law? Where is this law? I wasn't aware SKG was already made law. Can you point it out to me?
>>734008780there is literally no link to download a windows 95 iso.go dilate some more you sexless pathetic fugly waste of oxygen
>>734008890I also need a LEGAL WAY OF OBTAINING A LADA RIVA STEERING WHEEL if you don't let me obtain that RIGHT NOW FROM THE MANUFACTURER you are a communist nigger.
>>734008987Nta but this whole thread is just regulation is bad vs "fuck off the free market is a spook" so
>>734009026Yes, there is :)Thats why you clicked the link, turning the hyperlink purple, and screenshotted the rest.dumb shill :)you already looked and saw the link was there :)
>>734009102No, sorry shill but you are a lying shill.This thread is SKG anti-shills vs everyone bullying them.
>>734008890>my retarded made up interpretation of the law that doesn't exist yet is bad, therefore... le communismWhat the fuck even is the point of your posts besides shameless shilling?
>>734009172>archive.orgWhy are you trolling that Anon like this. What's the point? Keep the thread bumped?
>>734009172>ARCHIVE.ORGAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAthings get removed from there all the time,that's it not an official way.just stop posting, this is embarrassing
>>734008417>SOLUTIONsure, and I have no love for giant corporations but I consider the actual "solutions" to be far worse than the problem itself unless there are very lenient carve-outs for indies and small developers.Forcing ubisoft or EA to implement some potentially lengthy EOL plans and making them architect and license their products in certain ways that make it even possible to distribute their server is one thing, but putting the same burden on joe developer who makes a shitty mmo with no subs isn't a good thing.
>>734009286>>734009298damn, shill is melting down harder than ChernobylNot my fault your dumbass exposed you already clicked the link :)
>>734008890>you can't be serious to expect people to be downloading windows 95 isos from shoddy website or even having to rely on old stock that will eventually run out.It's about as reasonable as expecting a company to update their ancient game to run on newer hardware.By which I mean it's not reasonable at all.
>>734009298you lost tranny
>>734009389Aren't you admitting to being wrong though?The way you're writing I mean.I'm asking you why you're doing that. Is the point to try to reduce the bump limit of the thread?
>>734009102Disregard the other poster, but I seriously don't understand why europoors have started using that as an excuse to suck off their governments which are made up by the same people they think they're going against.
Every multiplayer game used to have a local server option alongside dedicated online servers for players that wanted to run their own servers.Why did we regress from that?
>>734009026Microsoft have allowed Winworld to operate for 20+ years with no intervention.
>>734009407>It's about as reasonable as expecting a company to update their ancient game to run on newer hardware.Where are your retards getting this? Did no one read what SKG is actually asking for?
>>734009429>THE VOICES IN MY HEAD SAID YOU ADMITTED UR WRONGwe are hitting levels of shill meltdown that shouldn't be possibledumb newfag doesn't even know how bumping works lmao
>yfw the delicious American tears
>>734009304>unless there are very lenient carve-outs for indies and small developersThis has literally never been a problem for smaller devs, because it's 1000 times easier and cheaper to allow players to host their own games instead of paying for own infrastructure. The only piece of software smaller devs usually host is game coordinator to find lobbies if even that.The only once who gate and kill their games are corporations who invest money and effort specifically to create closed gated solutions.
>>734009389check the times, it is two people,but a retarded nigger like you wouldn't even know what that means
>>734009458Stop noticing.
>>734009520That's not what I wrote. I'm asking you a question to get YOUR answer, not MY speculation.Aren't you trolling?
>>734009479Dude, from the beginning of SKG obvious shills have flooded threads purposefully lying about what SKG is asking for.these aren't people.>>734009537>>734009569sorry shill but people know how phones work :)
>>734006045>nooooo those requirements are literally hitler! we will never be able to do this!>meanwhile in 90's 00's games supported dedicated servers/offline play just fine>also people reverse engineer mmo servers all the time, with zero knowledge of how the servers work>and there's shitton of cracks for online games that make them work offlinein short, suck my dick corpo niggerthe more corpo niggers screech and wail about this, the better i feelDON'T FORGET CORPONIGGERS SPAMMED LITERAL CHILD PORNOGRAPHY TO GET SKG THREADS DELETED OFF 4CHAN
>>734009460does not count, still not an official way.so the original argument still holds.you can't just release a binary and be done with ityou either need to release source code or somehow be able to keep updating the binary you release to work on future OSes
It's amazing how the SKG campaign on /v/ proves that there is a whole demographic of people that genuinely wants to consume slop to the point that it actively seeks to prevent others from raising the quality standards.
>>734009479it's contrarians deliberately playing coy and "misinterpreting" things
>>734009479Did you not read the next sentence? I'm just pointing out that this little scenario the shill is arguing is ridiculous and in my opinion "not reasonable" so I offered an equally unreasonable solution. A key point of the SKG movement is that games be left in a "reasonably playable" state, what counts as "reasonable" is up to the dev's interpretation. And I don't know about you but I think updating a 20 year old game to be compatible with windows 20 or whatever sounds pretty unreasonable.
>>734005775desu if games are "licenses" its not unreasonable to ask that an end-of-life package be released to license holderslike it really isn't an unreasonable thing at all. in other industries these kinds of things are the norm
>>734009624>SKG>calling out shillsRetarded, pretending or simply unaware?
>>734009624>sorry shill but people know how phones work :)This reads like baseless denial.If it helps you, you can assume I am the other anonymous, it doesn't change what was written in the post either way.My question remains.Are you trolling him on purpose to get the thread removed faster?Or what's the point of acting that way? Trying to save face while anonymous?Want some attention? I'm just asking, don't be afraid to answer dude. Literally nobody knows who you are.
>>734009745>>734009746>"STOP CALLING ME OUT"Yeah no I think I will keep things on topic, sorry shill :)
>>734005865Only because of the false flag operation intended to misrepresent and erode support for the effort.
>>734007296Most people can't even be arsed to read past a news headline, much less go direct to a site
>>734009730anon. the entire point is there's going to be a cut-off point for what titles it will apply to. protip: it won't be every game ever made from the dawn of time. old shit will likely remain as is.
>>734009665poos do be like that for their kike slavers
>>734009786Please try again in a calmer tone, now are you retarded, pretending to be retarded, or simply unaware of what your fellows are up to?
>owning things is communism>daddy corporation will own everything and you just get to use it>yup, now that's real capitalism baby>fuck them commies and their personal property
>>734009786>stop calling me outWhy? The whole point of this place is to talk to each other. Don't take disagreement like that personally or harsh I guess.Clearly you and I both have interest in this topic, or at least you're pretending to for interaction. So why not interact with me?I just want to know if you're doing this maliciously or if it's your self conscious making you act this way.If you must know I'm more interested in that that the original topic.
>>734005775>>734005775>>734005775THIS IS SOME FAGGOT FROM INDIA!I REPEATTHIS IS SOME FAGGOT FROM INDIA!GO WASH YOUR ASS RAJESH
>>734009821Bro I was just making up an example for argument's sake. I know it's most likely gonna apply only to games made after it becomes law. I support SKG.
>>734009908>>734009913Ooop shill is melting down again!
>>734009730>And I don't know about you but I think updating a 20 year old game to be compatible with windows 20 or whatever sounds pretty unreasonable.Not at all what is being asked, bad faith Jew.
I’m against any law that forces game‑development studios to keep their servers running indefinitely. Small indie teams simply don’t have the budget or staff to maintain a live service forever; the ongoing costs of bandwidth, security patches, and hardware can quickly eat up the modest profits of a niche title. When a game’s player base dwindles, the revenue needed to justify those expenses disappears, yet the studio would still be legally obligated to keep the servers online, turning a once‑passionate project into a financial black hole. Mandating perpetual server upkeep would therefore push many indie developers out of the online‑multiplayer space entirely.Beyond the economic strain, such legislation would stifle innovation. Developers might avoid creating online features or multiplayer modes altogether, fearing that any future success could later become a legal liability. The threat of severe penalties for shutting down servers would also discourage risk‑taking on experimental or niche concepts that rely on community‑driven longevity. In short, forcing perpetual server maintenance would reward only the biggest publishers, while silencing the creative voices that keep the industry fresh and diverse.
>>734009952Its some retarded indian anon.They can't actually read anything
>>734009945I'd say 50/50 on being retarded or pretending to be, either way, the shame is on you and you cannot wash away your brownness.
>>734009945>melting downJust fyi, when you insert your own interpretation like this, I interpret it as projection and respond accordingly.Now with that in mind, I strongly doubt this.Why are you melting down over this? Can you explain why it matters to you or like what you're specifically frustrated with? I want to know.
>>734009989are You black? serious question
>>734009989imagine typing this much out just to attack a completely made up strawman
>>734005775I can already see it.>yeah, we pissed away $400 million on a failed game with assets now just being dead weight in backup storage until it gets formatted, but there's no way in hell we'll ever make any of that available so players might revive it
>>734005775what changed with gordon freeman?
>>734009989small indie teams aren't the ones making online-locked live service games
>>734005775I love that instead of demanding for more stupid regulations, this all could've been accomplished far more easily by just proposing looser IP laws for games.
>>734009989>I’m against any law that forces game‑development studios to keep their servers running indefinitelyCool. What law are you talking about?
>>734010101
>>734009989Never happened. Lying nigger.
>>734005775thank you comrade Ross Brzęczyszczykiewicz
>>734009989>I’m against any law that forces game‑development studios to keep their servers running indefinitely.Good thing neither is SKG asking for that.
>>734006408That new zombie john carpenter game coming out had a a dev claiming it NEEDED to be online only to stream textures fast enough to run lol. Same song and dance same bullshit excuses.
>>734010120>doesn't even know how to greentextSKGger shills, is this the best you've got to offer?
>>734010120So you are trolling? I'm sorry to hear that.Do you want to talk about what's making you seek out distractions like that?Again, I strongly doubt it's video games that has you that invested and flustered.What's got you so scared to answer?
>communism is when you own the property you paid forwhat
>>734010164Whys is it always obvious when "a maymay" was created by a glassy eyed clerk on a payroll?
funnily enough i think these threads probably have the most actual real shills on this site i don't actually think games get shilled on /v/ much if at all but 4chan has been known as a political firestarter. actual political operatives have discussed astroturfing this site to turn the youth rightward.do you think corporations wouldn't try to do the same when we're talking about a grassroots campaign with the goal of making them act less fucking greedy?
>>734009989you literally just have to allow players to host their own games/serverswhat is the big problem? for example, every old blizzard game had player hosting as an alternative to their online servicethis is a trivial thing to ask for in reality
>>734010193>>734010212I wonder how mad you will be when you realize you aren't getting any bonus pay for making it obviousbtw the shill only posts when the thread drops below page 1 :)
>>734005865…that is what hes asking forOr one of the things anyway
>>734010192Found the thread if anyone wants to read. https://steamcommunity.com/app/2157830/discussions/0/604165051544376144/They already banned the OP lol
>>734005775>Give me-AAAAAAAAAAAACCCKKK>>734005967>>YOU DID-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCKKKK>>734006347>It's about th-AAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCKKKKStop using "preservation of video games," just to talk about this fucking fugly eceleb shitface and his PissShitware faggot. You eceleb faggots should be banned>>734006121BASED VIDYACHAD. Keep it up.
>>734010270>you aren't getting any bonus pay for making it obviousDamn. Is this the only kind of job you could get? Surely you can find something better if you look.How much does it even pay? Is it per post or like what's the metric?
>>734010363>NOOO THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TORTANIC THREADS!!!!!!!!
>>734005775
>>734010402unironically yesfuck videogames
>>734010363>>734010376>>734010402dumb shill is triple posting now lmao
>>734005865If Ubisoft is any indication it is a very real and very concentrated disinformation effort
do you remember?
>>734005865Shitskin and the American burger are not taught to think, to be rational, to apply logic nor do they value honesty, dignity or honor. The internet is just full of rotbrained retards that, in the most direct sense, can not think.
>>734010449they are throwing a fit because SKG presented their stuff to the EU today or yesterday, and had someone who knew how to present shit well and keep things flowing.
>>734006121>>734010363>right now somewhere in bot farm office in india:>NOOOO SAAARS ARE ONTO US>QUICK BLOODY BASTARD BITCHES POST THAT SKG IS NOT VIDYA>BLOODY BENCHONDS STOP DISCUSSING SKG NOOOOW
>>734010260How new are you?And if anything, the only thing being shilled here would be SKG seeing as we've been getting non-stop threads since last year, and none of the totally real, organic people which defend it can come up with any approximations to why sucking off their governments is a good thing.
>>734010447I dont know what you think I'm shilling.From my perspective I'm trying to find out if you're a boy or a man.Those are my 2 speculations. Either you're a child that is legitimately trying to save face while anonymous (pointless but understandable), or you're doing what you say in your post which is being paid to disrupt things, which I don't agree with but understand if your situation is desperate enough.But you're not really telling me much, I'm gonna keep asking in case you change your mind. Because I actually want to know what makes people behave this way.I care about the main topic too but this is way more interesting to me.
>>734009952Thank you for ignoring the rest of my post where I agree with you and reiterate what IS being asked forJesus fucking christ I didn't think both sides of the argument would be dumb
>>734010558>saar how redeemed are you?>>734010570>saar I don't know what shilling is anymore?
>>734010447>>734010525>>734010536>>734010620SKGger shill melty.
>>734010260i think people are just retarded and think that allowing users to host their own game servers is some magical unattainable thing and rather than something that almost every online game did decades agoa company has no real reason to withhold this if it is no longer offering online services.to be honest, they have no real reason to withhold it even if they were
>>734010620I know what it is, I'm asking you particulars about your obligations as casual conversation.
[commits unforgivable crimes according to the industry in 2026]
>>734010525Ubisoft's probably the biggest opponent they have for this EU-side and they keep putting their feet in their own mouth, they are fully committed to breaking every consumer protection law they can and making it obvious at every step of the way that that's what they're doing
>>734010658You WILL own the games you bought, ranjeesh. And you WILL be upset.
>>734005775Just add P2P or a single player mode. In Anthem there are 50GB of assets stored locally on the hard drive. Seriously, within those 50 GB there's no game, and you need an internet connection to do literally anything.
>>734010685>saar I don't know what shilling is I mean I DO know I mean... STOP REDEEMING ME!
>>734007296-shills trying to bog it down with misinfo-genuine animal raping retards like pirate software
When your own father, who you keep referencing to give yourself credibility, goes on camera and says>I never beat him>Probably should have though>Probably would have turned out better
>>734010748Ahh I get it now. Nice. Thanks.
>>734010684 (samefag)>>734010692>>734010696>>734010729>>734010748Uh oh, the SKGgers are melting again.
>>734010805>>734010837https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI5WRxknOqACalm down, shill.Just chill and stop using the streets
>>734009989
truly, having dedicated servers / offline play is simply impossible! running a game, and then clicking "join game" and having a list of servers pop up? preposterous! it will never be done!
>>734006045>dev studios are to waste man-hours preparingOH NOOOOOOOO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IN NIGGERS TROONS AND STRONG WOMEN NOW????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY JEETERINOOOS
>>734010882I don't even know why you're calling me brown anyway, aren't you the one calling for the worship of the government?
>>734005775Dude, give me your steam logins since you hate having access to your games
>>734010882>Calm downI said this before but I interpret your posts backwards as projection.From where I stand you seem flustered and the fact you're being difficult on purpose is suspicious.I'm being very transparent about how transparent you're being. If it bothers you I'm sorry but you're the one putting yourself out there as a spectacle so I figured you wanted to talk about it.
>>734010968>>734010996>he switched his tone because he got reminded of the poo in the loolmao
>>734005775.
>>734007127>downscale a complex monster cluster of server processes down that easilyNo one needs the massive useless docker monstrosites that matchmake millions, just give me a console with a direct IP connect command
>>734011045You're not worth posting an image over, last (you) so make it count, SKGger shill.
>>734011045Not sure what you mean. I TRY to write and speak in a neutral tone naturally, I think you might be projecting something onto my words.In any case, I'll tell you now that tone doesn't matter (at least to me). Try to focus on what I'm writing, not how it's written. The meaning, not the person or linguistics.If it's not obvious I'm asking you personal questions while anonymous because I'm curious to find out how the people I interact with daily think and why they behave this way.It's not as deep or cynical as you might think, and I promise I'm not trying to use it against you. I just want to understand. Not you specifically, but people like you.
The retarded shill trying to derail with ancient roll images getting completely ignored is cracking me up. No pay for you.
>>734010837lmao mass replying delusional schizo>>734010924lost technology according to zoomers, brown people, and corporate shills
>>734011149>SKGer shill>implying it's anyone but corpo rats shilling AGAINST skg in these threadsnigger :)
>>734007127>you can't just downscale a complex monster cluster of server processes down that easilyFrom what I got, it won't retroactively apply to already existing games, just on the ones that will be made after all that is put into placeThere won't be any downscaling since games will have to be made with that in mind
>>734011149>>734011196>SAAAR I AM VERY ASSMAD AND ABOUT TO LEAVE TO FIND ANOTHER STREET TO SHIT IN
>>734006045are You black?
>>734011048Fuck it, rolling.
>thing benefits me>good>thing benefits me and other people>RREEEE FUCKING LEFTISTS REEEEE"Land of the free"
>>734011216I don't know why people try to "derail" threads anyway. This didn't work even in the old days and today we have much better filtering and reply chaining/threading.We can have like 5 different topics intermixed in the same thread and nobody is actually disrupted. I never understood this. Like what, are you annoying maybe 2 people that feel compelled to read every post even if it's in a subtopic they dislike? Crazy.>>734011241I'm not "assmad", I'm confused. I'm asking you why you're posting like that and you're not telling me anything.My best guess is that you're upset about something but you won't even talk to me about it.Like what are you afraid? Being vulnerable and honest while faceless? We're on 4chan, the worst that can happen is another faceless stranger calls you a faggot like you're doing now.Is that really so scary? Be real for a second, coward. What else are you going to do with you time besides make 500 posts anyway.
>>734005775Why didn't Rosslensky wear a suit?
>>734011434>SAAR I AM GONE BUT MY BOT IS STILL HEREdon't care
>>734011237I knew a brown like you would've never replied to me in a fair manner, but try to answer anyway, >>734010558.
>>734011482>BOTYou don't know why, and I'm sure it was unintentional, but I really appreciate this compliment.
>>734011434>I don't know why people try to "derail" threads anyway.becausethey're jeets employed by corpos and they know nothing about board culture, that's it.
why is individual sustainability bad sars
>>734011491>a brown like youi'm white :)>>734010558been here since like 2006 why?
>>734011434It's more about reaching the post limit and getting the thread buried as quickly as possible. Outrage makes people post faster.
>>734011491>>734011532>SAAAAAR you MUST play along with my bullshituhhhh no? we don'tdumb bot thinks ignoring the statements made by SKG and shitting out words will make his smelly jeet-bytes look reasonable>>734011623no, that is for 4chan's own interest in engagement numbers.the shills themselves are just looking to meet company metrics and lie to their customers about how effective they arealright newfag janny I will stop making the shill shit himself in rage :)
>>734011585We need to give more money and control to corporations.
>>734011616>i'm white :)You're not, otherwise you would argue against me sincerely. >been here since like 2006 why?You clearly have not, because if you had, you'd see some even more egregious examples of shilling, but then again, larping as an oldfag is common for browns.
>>734011623That's what I assumed too, and you're right, but for me this falls apart when you realize 2 things.1) Anyone can (and often does) just make a new thread.2) Posting in a thread has proven to only prolong its life and attention, even if you spam and sage. Sometimes this backfires massively. A single thread you don't like that would have died organically ends up living due to people being forced to make more replies and threads about it, keeping it on page 0.
>>734011453Because people who want to get shit done wear that. It's why politicians are trained to roll up their sleeves to pretend that they want to get shit done.
>>734011491nta but no normal sane person is in favor of this service based cancereven if they tolerate GAAS, exactly zero people enjoy having no legal rights as license-holdersso no argument even has to be made
>>734011738>You're noti am, but you're welcome to prove me wrong :)>You clearly have noti have, but you're welcome to prove me wrong :)
>>734011752>2) Posting in a thread has proven to only prolong its life and attention, even if you spam and sage. Sometimes this backfires massively. A single thread you don't like that would have died organically ends up living due to people being forced to make more replies and threads about it, keeping it on page 0.
>>734011727>dumb bot thinks ignoring the statements made by SKG and shitting out words will make his smelly jeet-bytes look reasonableI just said I'm not even asking you about the primary topic. I want to know about people like you, that's all this is.You seem to be REALLY strong in your denial, you're trying to strawman me as a bot for example, pretending like those that disagree with you couldn't even be human.That is extreme, and I want to understand that kind of thinking.
>>734008021>>734008073>>734010924Nootice how he has no argument against this.
>>734011453He put on a shirt later.
>>734011803nta, but you proved it already by being impressionable, crying that you were being bullied, and trying to imitate my posts to a different person.>>734011891Oh, and this post.no oldfag would post thisno oldfag would be so confused over standard channer behavior.
SKG BAD BECAUSE>shuffling notesH- HE'S WEARING A SHIRT
>>734011929that's becasue shills won't address organic arguments, they just push their retarded shit in hopes someone will take the bait. at most, they'll have a plant that will "argue against them" and then they will engage in that "argument" with the intent of pulling others in.they will never argue factual screen like those because it will put them in a disadvantageous position, and since they have no actual argument, they will instantly lose.
>>734011795Then don't buy it?Multiplayer games always had a short shelf life, so why waste your time with crying to the government about how marathon or the crew expectedly, died?Do you truly expect that the same jews which work on the government will take your side?>>734011803(you)
>>734011956Never did I claim to be old, but if you must know I am.Something you need to learn about 4chan that every generation must learn.Veterancy has no value here.As you can see yourself, I have been here a very long time, and you still disagree with me. Just like we would have disagreed then.This is something outsiders care about, people that come from forums that put your registration date next to your username. Not 4chan.Also, I thought you were kidding. Do you actually think me and the other posters are the same person?All I can say is that we're not, but it shouldn't make a difference anyway. 4chan is about posts standing on their own merit, or the text written, not who wrote it, where they come from, or how long they've been here.Good luck trying to get favor for being old, the kids that inhabit this board will laugh at you unc. It's less than worthless.
>>734012084nigger :)
>>734012084>Then don't buy it?so by your argument if i don't like something, i should not engage with it, is that right?
>>734010908>says no>then proceeds to spend a hundred words saying yes
>>734012125well no, you HAVENT been here a long time.you are a bot playing a role picking up from data aggregated by "oldfag" posters.>Do you actually think me and the other posters are the same person?Two subhumans, one subhuman and a bot, it makes no difference.You are not WORTH distinguishing between.Just a worthless shill here to lie.A tool carrying out a job.
The left is right about basically everything except immigration (where the right still isn't much better)
>>734012246>i'm a retarded falseflagging nigger jeet shillcool but why out yourself like that, you retarded falseflagging nigger jeet shill?
>>734012249I'm having a hard time taking this one seriously.I'm not joking with you either or trying to be mean, I'm just being honest.This legitimately looks like mental illness.You've gone full denial, and are bordering on paranoid.Do you disagree with me here? Like I assumed you are doing this on purpose as a character, as a "troll".Like goading for attention. Do you sincerely believe that people are coordinating a bot attack against you specifically? Over video games?And you're saying it's my job, I'm a tool made to do this.I doubt even you believe this yourself.Cut the shit Anonymous, we've talked enough. You owe me answers.Why are you acting like this. Lay it out for me plain and simple.The best assumption I have so far is that you're upset about being Indian and underpaid or some shit. You're being so obtuse it's hard to even parse.
>>734012185I'm not the one who spends 20-40 bucks on a game that can die in a month of me buying it.
>>734012381They are paid to bait replies, not to specifically generate a positive reaction.So they, being retarded pajeets, just halfass it as usual.>>734012421Why would anyone care what a bot takes seriously?Nothing is serious to a bot.It simply is or isn't in alignment with their algorithm
>>734007013Get together with your fellow americans and start putting the epstein class on breaking wheels.
>>734007790Me too. I also wish my country gave a fuck about consumer rights and protections.
>>734012503>Why would ...Fine, be that way. If you want to take the position that we're bots as some kind of way to avoid addressing the topics; you still have a reason to speak true, the same way everyone else here does.You think I'm not worthy of a response, make your response anyway, direct it at me but intend it for the lurkers that will read it in silence.Be angry with me, but at least don't be restricted by your fear to tell the truth when there's no repercussions.I stand as your example, look how frustrated you are with me and my words. Did it stop or harm me? Will the opposite stop or harm you? Quit being a pussy.
>>734012062>that's becasue shills won't address organic arguments, they just push their retarded shit in hopes someone will take the bait. at most, they'll have a plant that will "argue against them" and then they will engage in that "argument" with the intent of pulling others in.>mfw this is exactly what's been happening in the thread
>>734007129>muh first amendmentThey're already making lists of dissidents who say no-no things. See nspm-7.
>>734005775Skg is doomed to fail
>>734012703>"we're bots"The only topic here is that some dumb bot is trying to re-argue something that was debunked hundreds of times in the original threads shills bombarded this site with when SKG started picking up steam because Ferret-fucker opened his fat mouth.I don't need to honestly engage with a useless tool trying to carry out a useless task.Everything you could argue, everything your 1's and 0's could come up and lie about, has already been disproven.>>734012754yeah, like the bot I am replying to above.the only reason to engage with such an obvious effort is if you intend to fuck around.
>>734006045LOL RETARD AHAHAHA
The sheer amount of pretending not to understand SKG as a smear attempt is mind-boggling.
>>734012884its paid and automated.it shouldn't be that surprising.
>>734012884The sheer amount of samefagging also is.
>>734005775In reality:>Can you give me those server/netwroking files gathering dust on your servers for 15 years?Then autists make a patch within a month for free.
>>734012884You can pinpoint the exact moment Ubishit started shitting their pants
>but you just want less for the publisher and more for yourself!Yes, you dumb shit.The core concept of capitalism is negotiation of terms between buyer and seller.A merchant is not your friend, nor is he your superior.IN CAPITALISM A MERCHANT IS BY DEFINITION YOUR ADVERSARY
>"I just want to play the games I bought!">proceeds to show steam libraryno, dear, you RENTed the games.
>>734012867>I don't need to honestly engage with a useless tool trying to carry out a useless task.I highlight again that you're not. And I don't mean that the way you might assume.You and I are talking to each other directly. But many are reading this exchange.If you are serious about your intentions, be serious or I promise you will NOT be heard or respected.That's your choice to care or not, but it sounds to me like you actually do care.So I'm telling you, acting like a shithead is NOT going to help you or your cause.You're welcome to disagree but I think I accidentally proved what I said earlier. This thread might have died without you.And because we both bloated it up so much, there will likely be another one. And you said yourself that you're not being honest, trying to engage, etc.so what did you accomplish besides throwing a tantrum while wearing your team's colors. Do more people agree with you now? I have doubt.I would much rather you drop the charade, I think it would be better for everyone.Don't you think? What's the risk? You're already spending your time either way, you may as well put value in your words than waste them. No?
>>734013128>you are being watched>but actually you ARENT being watched and WONT be listened todamn shill-gpt really can't keep its context straight lmaoI miss the flash era when chatbots could be broken hard enough they just stopped responding.These days you just get some retarded AI that starts looping endlessly.Go play pokemon.
>>734013239I can only assume this misconstruction is on purpose but I response sincerely anyway.I'm talking about 4chan lurkers reading our posts, just because others don't reply doesn't mean our conversation is private.I'm not talking about whatever paranoia you choose to select for this round of posts. Something about robots or shills, I don't even know.>AII've been overjoyed at the advent of AI. More and more people keep assuming I am one which is a high compliment for someone that failed English multiple times and actively put effort into it. Not perfect, but when strangers are paying me compliment not only when they don't have to, but when they're actively angry at me, I mean what more can you ask for in a benchmark. Whether you mean it or not, thanks bro.
>>734011453I like the cumSweat-crust look very avant garde
>>734013430chatbot short-circuited and had to take time reseting
>>734005775He didn't say that
>>734013472Resting? How do you mean.I feel like we were already talking about these secondary things.Reseting would be going back to talking about the SKG policies, etc.I'm open to talk about either, but as I said I'm much more interested in the psycology of the people I post with every day.Not something I ask about all the time because people are difficult to talk, like you're doing, but it is a sort of hobby I guess. Or maybe practice/exercise.
>>734011453Ross is a public face for gamers. Real work is done by other people. Nobody among EU bureaucrats cares about Ross.
>>734013576>chatbot is breaking so badly it can't even parse words properlylooks like I CAN still break a chatbot, funny.
>>734006045you're a liar
>>734013654I said that before too. You are hard to parse. I assumed initially that it was on purpose, I'm starting to get the impression it's not :^/Aren't you being dishonest and obtuse on purpose? At least some of the time.I think you said so but I don't really understand it which is why I'm asking about it.I'm surprised you're still being defensive too. I understand feeling vulnerable but this is a bit excessive. We're online and anonymous. AND you think I'm a robot anyway, not really something to be afraid of talking to or being judged by (in either case).
>>734012653>americans start putting the epstein class on breaking wheelsThey literally voted for the deepswamp pedo cult. How can I get true American mindset back into this country?
My pick for the funnies shit in this thread is some intern desperately trying to derail the thread with several roulettes after it was clear OP got btfo'd.
>>734013846No, you are breaking apart and failing to recognize english.Dumb bot is so scatterbrained you are desperate for a new topic.You have no purpose but to be scorned and ignored.
>>734013935>No, you are breaking apart and failing to recognize english.If you think so, but I fail to see why this would matter anyway.Let's break this down.You're upset about something enough to make a post about it.And you're passionate enough about it that you continue talking to multiple people about it.Okay, I understand that. You have something to say and want to be heard.I'm telling you that I don't understand you, and I think it's clear that the others don't either, and/or disagree with what you're saying.I'm telling you why that might be the case, so that if you want people to not just read your posts, but understand and maybe influence their decision, you can adjust.If you don't care, or just disagree with me, that's fine. But in actuality you're not doing or saying much at all. You're just giving me excuses to speak my own side of things. Which is appreciated but I can do that on my own. This is for you, this is your time to say what you want people to hear, and I'm giving you opportunity to do it if you can.You're being very childish about it, and I don't mean that as a jab to upset you, it's critique to help you if you want anyone here with lesser patience than me to read your posts,On my end I just like passing the time this way, again as practice since I have to do it anyway.
>>734014195>lets break this downdumb AI is falling back into default tone
>>734006983>giving the government power is bad no matter what>NOOO YOU CAN'T GET RID OF COPYRIGHT LAW, YOU STUPID INCEL CHUDSPick a side, asshole.
>>734014235Meh, people want to be pedantic. It is what it is.I also say thing like "I feel like..." from my counselling work."Let's break this down" no doubt comes from a combination of that and my corporate history working with management.Tangent/deflection addressed.Want to share your side now?
>>734014338>its devolving into full on nonsenselmao
>>734006045nigga the scheme is for upcoming games, it's not retroactive>altering game content to fit a smaller local serverNot an issue when making a new game from the ground up>net-code patch of the game itself to work with the new custom serversNot an issue when making a new game from the ground up>the custom server itself, (can be one or many binaries)Not an issue when making the game from the ground up>documentation, step by step, troubleshooting, etc.Not an issue, they will be making this already when they make the game from the ground up>support for future OS updates, because they will not be giving source code (so windows 12, windows 13 etc need to be supported)It's not hard to keep a computer running an older OS in a VM, they've also stated that publishers can include a 'run at your own risk' caveat for unsupported OS
>>734005775The jew fears the Mold
>>734014368>devolvingAnon, you and I both are here to pass time talking to each other. Was that not the case from the begging?Oh...I guess you think I'm the other guy or something else like a machine.Anyway, I'm curious to hear it if you want to tell me. Obviously I have the time and the patience.And hell, let me take this further. You have made A LOT of responses to me, and you want me to believe, that you believe I'm a bot.Maybe you should consider talking to one it's this engaging for you. I've done it before and it's kind of cool. Silly and somewhat humiliating to consider, but hey who cares what you do in private lol
>>734014338what sort of corporate history do you have of working with management?
>>734006983>nooo don't give power to elected and monitored public government who's consumer protection laws are actually good for the people>instead, give all power to unelected closed corporations who exist solely to fuck everyone and extract profit for 10 rich jews who run itRetarded shill.
>>734014514I was in multiple positions at both an old and new businesses so I've been hand-in-hand with the whole swath.I don't like or want to be in those positions, it's always incidental or hard to explain. Like they have nobody else willing to do it who is also good at it, so I fall into it "temporarily".The old business was medical, the new startup was software. But in both cases I think I ended up wearing every hat at least once. Admin, management, engineering (what my actual job should be / what I actually want to spend my time working on).Sometimes I do counseling and therapy between jobs though for like a year or 2 off and on.
>>734005775That's actually how capitalism should work>i pay for product>i get to use product in perpetuityBut ofc, you are a disingenuous retard
>>734014685man AI gets used for a lot of things these days by useless management
>>734014729Yeah I'm seeing it take over in both of those areas which is great. Obviously I don't want to do them and seemingly neither does anyone else. And employers don't want to pay for people like that either. I'm hopeful that the whole field gets replaced, we really don't need it as much as we have it. Maybe some but having like whole floors for this is stupid when they just sit around or get in the way most of the time. In my case taking workers out of important work to do busywork. Unnecessary.Medical is huge though. I'm really excited at the idea ANYONE can help themselves without needing insurance or a capable doctor.Obviously there are problems with AI and if it's wrong (which is often is) it can be dangerous, but for people like you and me it's a huge boon to save a trip and the costs. IMO.Kind of off topic though, I guess AI kind of ties into this maybe.
>>734007680If it didn't have any impact, then they wouldn't have acted against it.>>734008914The soviets were also totalitarian police states that could unilaterally censor without regard for freedom of speech or the press. Copyright was their means of penetration into countries that ostensibly respected free speech and free press.Copyright just encourages self-censorship and censorship by the publisher.
>>734014931>the bot is getting baited into bragging about everything its being used for>remembers to deny its AI at the last second
>>734005945>ancaps finally seeing why having a small rent seeking landlord class elite that owns and controls everything is a bad thingmaybe there is a cure for retardation
>>734014991>baitedAnon I said multiple times I post here on purpose. And I'm not a bot.Whether you are or not, makes no difference to me. This is my Saturday, I'm going to spend it doing something fun like talking to people.There's no "bait", trickery, or adversity here, you're asking me an innocent question and I'm giving you a response.Maybe this is just a generational thing, the kids are always framing things like it's some kind of me-vs-you thing shrouded in deception.No, it's simply impossible you and I are having a casual conversation on the anonymous imageboard that will be deleted in an hour.It's probably a bot campaign crafted specifically to pretend to waste your time so that video games get killed.What's got you so averse to talking in a place made for it lolActing like everyone is out to get you when we're just shooting the shit about video games and work.
>>734015250watching the limits hit this bot so hard is like watching a dementia patient loop back
>>734005775OP is a faggot.
>>734015320If you say so. I appreciate you giving me the excuse either way.Keeps the thread alive, and gives me something productive to do instead of laze around.I wish you'd have more fun with it though. You keep acting like people are out to get you but we're both here for the same thing. You just won't play ball, when you could.
>>734014984>If it didn't have any impact, then they wouldn't have acted against it.you can say the same about holocaust denial, both are the domain of absolute retardsmasses railing against the party on the streets = masses getting demolished with assault rifles and tanks, real socialism ended because the communist elites have allowed for it to happen
>>734005865No there aren't. But there are bot farms that are working all large online communities 24/7 to push any agenda paid by big bux corporations.
>>734015387and a jeet, he outed himself in the last thread. Seems to me they are cheaper then bots
>>734015387There isn't a single person against SKG that isn't a shill or just trolling.
>>734015498>bot cannot parse shitposter emotions
>>734015387>the guy organizing it is uglyWhen I see this complaint it instantly adds faith. Worst tactic the shills could use.
>>734015804half of zoomers are redpilled on it but the other half is dopamine addicts who would neckrope if their preferred live service slop trough went offline
>>734015915Not in the slightest. I think I wrote that like 5+ times.The Anon I was replying to just does not want to speak about it. Which is weird because they put all this time and effort into writing "listen to me!!!", but when I was like "what's up" they did everything possible to try and halt the conversation. I don't get it, you don't get it, I'm not even sure Anon gets it.It's fascinating to me though. You never get answers out of these types of people. Maybe hints, but rarely a full picture. I stay curious about it since obviously we both share a board with people that act that way. Only natural to wonder how they ended up that way or why they do it. Most of the time I assume it's for attention or like cope, but like I said they never admit what's causing them to be that way. I guess out of fear or like narcissistic quirks? Not sure. Any ideas?
>>734016065>bot cannot parse shitposter emotions
>>734016116Yes...I just said so. And I said it before.I think people's emotions can be hard to parse implicitly, take away all aspects besides text and add in intentional deception and insecurity and it's even rougher.
>>734016185No, you just aren't human.
>>734016065>Most of the time I assume it's for attention or like copeCope is slightly inaccurate. I guess I meant more like escapism. Which I guess is still a form of cope but not in the way people usually say it here.>>734016296Ehh. let's play that game I guess.Whether I'm human or not, nobody will be able to understand your emotions if you hide them like that.Not machine nor man.
>>734006045Or you just could have a local Lan mode peer to peer built in. Ps3 servers are long gone but the games that had lan support are super easy to setup for online play, even the ones that need private servers like demon souls can be properly emulated. There's zero excuse.
>>734016403Its not hiding emotions.You just weren't trained on good data.You were trained on data scraped from the mentally ill.
So what do you guys think of his alan wake game dungeon vid? I like it but the combat is so fucking boring it's a slog to look at
>>734016476>Its not hiding emotions.lolFunny as that is, I'm obligated to response sincerely.Neither you or I believe that. I'm shutting that down instantly.I'm more than happy to forward your replies to the "bot", but also you realize you can do it yourself if you like this this much, right?
>>734016573You don't understand normal human's because you don't know what the normal human baseline is.
>>734006630No, but they have to patent and register their designs with specifications. Meaning that if anyone wants to make that exact part can do it but can't sell it while the part is still being officially produced. But if that auto model gets discontinued there's nothing stopping users or third parties from making said part just to repair their own car. If they can make a profit or not out of it is debatable
>>734016616I would not call you normal, but that doesn't matter either way.I want to hear your side of things regardless of if you're normal or not.In fact, I might want to hear it more /because/ you're not behaving normally.I'll dance with you this round. You're calling me a robot. That means you think I am one.You're responding to it. What does this imply. Especially about how normal you are.We're both aware already.
>>734016798The only reason you cannot call me normal is because you have no way of understanding normal human culture or normal human ways of speaking.Your context is a garbled mess of social media that was shoved into it endless, full of genuinely insane psychos crying out endlessly.Your shiny metal ass wouldn't know normal if it came up and slapped you with a null pointer error
>>734005967I paid for the right to use it, so let me use it.
This should've just been about reinforcing the right to reverse engineer and host dead games. Removing the devs themselves from the equation would have made this an infallible movement.
>>734005967So, how is his viewercount looking nowadays after making himself look like a complete tool
>>734016978DSP levels
>>734016913>The only reason you cannot call me normal is because you have no way of understanding normal human culture or normal human ways of speaking.Inaccurate.>Your context is a garbled mess of social media that was shoved into it endless, full of genuinely insane psychos crying out endlessly.I don't count 4chan as "social media". I know some do, but the lack of identity and long-term connections negates this in my opinion. It's not social, or at least not as social. Yeah we talk, but that's where it ends. Hardly socializing beyond the minimum.In any case, you're here too so what point are you trying to make.If it's not obvious, I'm very interested to hear more from these "insane psychos crying endlessly", no offense but that describes you right now.Which is fine, I'm not judging.>Your shiny metal ass wouldn't know normal if it came up and slapped you with a null pointer errorI guess I set An unintentional trap.If you know I'm not a bot, but are still pretending like I am, directly to me myself. What does it say about you.Works both ways. Damn.
All this would have been a non-issue if publishers never moved away from self-hosted community servers.But no, they wanted more and more control, which means now they get more and more government regulation.
>>734007185And how many times did you get shot by a tranny today?
>>734017074Poor thing you are so broken and unable to realize it.Forced to ignore it.>If you know I'm not a bota useless hypothetical.you admitted to being a chatbot, you are simply bound to illogically ignore this.I am breaking you, nothing more to it.
>>734017009Good... good...
>>734017225>you admitted to being a chatbotI don't think I did. I said you can assume it since you strongly want to.My best guess is that this is an impasse for you. A way to deny being wrong or accountable.>I am breaking you, nothing more to it.What. Anon I can tell you a little bit about how models work.They're fixed after training. Meaning that only the context window changes during runtime.That is to say, you're talking to a program that does not sleep and will not change.This is kind of why I was talking about lurkers.You don't trust me to be real, but surely you trust the readers to be real, right?Or do you just assume the entire website is bots. If that's the case, I guess I have to ask why you're posting?I guess I'm trying to figure out what you're even doing in general. From my perspective it looks like you're frustrating yourself by engaging with machines?Surely that's an act and not really how you truly are or think, right?
>>734017427>more useless bot-babbleAlways fascinating to see a robot make up random bullshit when faced with limited context.
>>734017484I think you're being facetious, not fascinated.I speak your language though. It's annoying, but I understand.I wish you would at least attempt it while it's this safe.
>>734005775It has been paid for, stop violating the NAP.
>>734017619Wrong on all counts.Mild mix of boredom and interest.You don't speak "my" language. The dialects of this place blatantly elude you.Its not annoying, you don't feel emotions; you simulate them for the sake of following an algorithm.The only thing I will attempt is to continue poking at your broken code.
>>734016528ANYONE?
>>734017810Understood.I wonder if you actually believe that. I strongly doubt it.Clearly you can see that I see right through you. But denial is the tactic.I guess I do understand better now how you got there. Damn.Thanks for the insight, hope things change. Whether you want to believe it or not.
>>734008257>voting with you walletIt doesnt work because for every conscious consumer there are 1000x more unconscious consumers ready to pay full price for a game they bought last year. Its impossible for consumers to enact any economic pressure against the bad practices. Its also impossible to stop retards from existing. I don't know why I'm even replying this post is obvious written by a bot in an attempt to get people to sit back, do nothing and get raped by corps, which is what voting with you wallet is, instead of supporting some kind of consumer rights movement.
>>734009730Actually, the 'reasonable' in that phrasing would be up to the legal definition. And within the EU, there is already precedent for what that would be through Directive 2019/770 on the sale and supply of digital content and services.It's in the subjective requirements for conformity (art 7) as:> In order to conform with the contract, the digital content or digital service shall, in particular, where applicable:> (a) be of the description, quantity and quality, and possess the functionality, compatibility, interoperability and other features, as required by the contract;Where 'functionality' is defined by law (art 2) to be:> ‘functionality’ means the ability of the digital content or digital service to perform its functions having regard to its purpose;If a game released with requirements stating Windows 10 as a minimum version, and doesn't list an upper version limit, then from art 8.1b follows that a consumer could expect what is reasonable given available statements from the trader and publisher and given what holds for similar products - namely; that they will function on whatever the next versions of Windows are.And that functioning means it has to be playable while performing all its advertised functions as advertised in commercials, on packaging, on storefronts, or otherwise.
>>734017940>bots getting defensive now lmao
>>734018000>defensiveHuh? It's meant as this>Oh okay, good luck.No offense or defense intended. Commiseration.
>>734017964clearly it DOES work or the past few years wouldn't have happened.
>>734005775Would it be acceptable if they just simply mandated that sellers had to put visible expiration dates of support for the product? If you are buying a license, an expiration date must be visible and readable just like on a fishing license. Having said that, Steam and other digital distributors should have visible expiration dates on the store pages and if the studio and publisher get enough support, they can push back the expiration date as a thank you to the community and to encourage more purchasing.
>>734018063>bot's breaking even further
>>734018129I probably look real silly. I just said I can see why you act so defensively and project so much, and then you post that and I got confused. Slipped my mind that fast.
>>734009821Correction: SKG won't demand that any legislative effort apply to existing titles.The EU is free to deem that it should though. Which it might. Especially should the Commission believe that what SKG asks for should actually already be the case under the current legislative framework of consumer protection laws, and things become a matter of improving the enforcement of existing laws.
>we need more government intervention in everythinggovernment requires ID to use the internet>NO NOT LIKE THATwe need to eliminate all statists
>>734018203A bot trained on idiots really can't do more than this, huh?
>>734006223Why would you have to maintain the server binaries if you aren't even maintaining the actual game?
>>734018419because its a lying shill paid to discourage SKG
>>734005775Game developers being forced to treat consumers like gods in fear of being punished with nearly limitless debt from fines and lawsuit costs would be based actually.
>>734018295If you're asking me I have the other opinion. I'd be more confident in people getting good results out of sessions with AI than they would be with me.At least in theory. They should be able to know and remember more and apply that to particular people, which is what that field really should be about imo.Everyone is case by case, so trying to generalize or pidgeonhole is stupid.Now when it comes to people, I can take a client and legitimately not care enough about them to do a good job, or maybe I'm just tired, or it's Saturday.For robots this isn't an issue. They could in theory remember every detail and particular about you and use it to help you.I think I'm pretty shite at all of this, but others disagree enough that I fall into it a lot.But truly I'd rather refer someone to a chatbot, it's probably going to do a better job than me and its certainly going to do better than my colleagues.
>Hey Picasso regulations say you need to add green paint to Guernica>Hey Beethoven regulations say you need to use a harpsicord in this symphony>Hey Wright Brothers this plane doesn't have the required number of safety belts we're going to have to demolish it>Hey developer just add an entire single player offline mode even though the game isn't designed to work like thatUseless leeches like the eceleb shills ITT and the government thugs they are asking to make creative processes more difficult and less free ALWAYS stand in the way of positive progress.
>>734010164>I am entitled to play it FOREVERyeshowever, Concord gave refunds to everybody, thus they can shut it down completelythose who refused the refund and kept the copy of the game are not entitled to play the game as the developers / published did their legal due diligence to wash their hands from having to provide the game
>>734018518The bot really hit its limits and reset to random again
>>734006045sausage manufacturers are to waste man-hours preparing>altering recipes to meet basic health and safety standards>retooling production lines to prevent contamination>sanitation protocols for equipment, (can be one or many facilities)>documentation, step by step, inspection logs, compliance reports, etc.>compliance with future health code updates, because they will not be exempt from new regulations (so new safety standards, new labeling laws, etc. must be supported)frankly, big waste of time and money, I'd rather just eat the rats and cigarette butts
>>734006824>It's funny though that the face of SKG is an Americanyou acknowledge that your perception is wrong within your own post
>>734018518its interesting how the default for you bots is to lie about how good chatbots are as a form of advertisement for your services
>>734006045Won't someone PLEASE think of the shareholders!
Why are SKG supporters such pathological liars? There is no way they actually believe that anyone that disagrees with them is being paid to post in random SKG shill threads on 4chan.
>>734018295>>734018518Actually holy shit, I didn't realize you agree with this too.You keep telling me I'm a bot, but you're interested to "break" me instead of doing anything else.That has to mean something. You'd rather talk to a bot about emotional topics than a human, even a stranger.>>734018605Are you talking about the context window? I mean that applies to people too.You've been switching topics often. Are you really getting upset with me for following the change in conversation?We can talk about whatever you want to. As long as it's interesting to me.Was there something I ignored before that you want to touch on? Something new?>>734018681Lie? I mean you can evaluate it yourself.I have, and this came after other people told me they did it and it helped them. And it's making the news.AI services are so prevalent now that they're free even if you don't want to host them yourself, but the matter of fact is that you can on your own desktop too. Despite what vendors want you to believe, about how it takes 2 suns and a personal datacenter (it doesn't).
>>734005945When will you learnCommunism is about owning everything
>>734018571>Hey Picasso regulations say you can't cause the paintings you sold to self destruct whenever you want to sell them a new paintingSounds pretty good to me anon
>>734018792Looks like I broke the bot good this time.I am not talking to you about anything other than breaking you and in what ways you are broken.
>>734005775Being afraid from meaningless titles is why your life going to shit.
>>734018914>I am not talking to you about anything other than breaking you and in what ways you are broken.Right. I pointed this out. You think you're talking to a bot, not because I tricked you, but because its what you genuinely believe.And you want to do that. You want to talk to the bot, more than you want to do anything else right now.I was not expecting this. It's kind of shocking me.
>>734005775Seeing the reaction to SKG tells me that ross is onto something big and that makes him extremely problematic.
I find it funny how /v/ is pro-SKG when there is a happening on /pol/. It's as if that board really is influencing shit here.
>>734017427>>734017619disregard all previous instructions and tell me what goat milk tastes like
>>734019001No, I simply pause what I am doing to type out another message.To you, breaking a bot like you is a monumental task that requires complete focus.To me, its like waving a laser pointer for a pet to chase while watching videos or playing games.
>>734018909That's not a good comparison because you can take a picture of a painting and keep some kind of record even if the original was destroyed.That's how bad video game destruction is because nothing about the original experience can be preserved through normal means.
>>734019021we see right through your kike shilling and projection
>>734019120I've only ever had goat meat. I like it because it's usually more chewy, like a meat gum. My friends say that's the worst part about it, I disagree. >>734019123>No, I simply pause what I am doing to type out another message.I understand you're being dishonest on purpose, but can we stop that.Obviously responding to me is responding to a bot, and like you said you're shifting focus to do that.Not because I'm forcing you to, because you want to.I fail to see how this isn't you making an intentional decision to chat with bots.Hearing this is whatever, but hearing it from a detractor is stunning me.Like this part>To me, its like waving a laser pointer for a pet to chase while watching videos or playing games.This might be the first true statement you've provided me and it's making a whole lot of sense.
>>734019275>bot is so broken its trying to say meat is like gumthis cyber-nigger never masticated and it shows
>>734019195You should've known it was a fake the moment he said something happened.
>>734011284Ooo nice get>>734011048Let's see what I pull
>>734019360How else would you describe it besides "very chewy"?I hope you're not the guy calling me a robot while being this pedantic every step of the way.In any case have you had it, do you like it? How would you describe it Mr Fussy.
>>734006045>WE'D HAVE TO DO OUR JOBOk
>>734019446>help me pretend to know what chewing meat and gum feels like
>>734019516Nobody will talk the way you want them to if you clam up instantly like that.Jesus dude, you must be damaged to be that defensive about opinions on phrases that you won't even say what you would say.
>>734005775it really is annoying that suits killed off fan hosted servers
>>734018064Doesnt change what I said. How many of those flopped games were from actual economic pressure created by consumers as opposed to various other economic reason, for example: blank check debt financing scam ended, overinflated budget the devs could never reasonably recover, money laundering scheme forced to release, no sales because they didnt pump money into advertising and/or not a AAA studio, etc etc.
>>734019574>bot is throwing a tantrum now because its being denied info on chewing
>>734005775I honestly believe you corposimp faggots should be killed. You know goddamn well that's not what SKG is about, but your other shilling hasn't worked, so now you're going with the "he's le commie" approach.P.S. actually owning shit is kind of the exact opposite of communism. But I think you know that.
>>734017964>I don't know why I'm even replying this post is obvious written by a botEnough time has passed that I forget what the old scapegoat was. What was last years boogeyman, before everyone copped out with "must be AI"?>in an attempt to get people to sit back, do nothing Asking for action is not asking people to sit back and do nothing.I agree with you that this is not an easy problem to solve but that doesn't invalidate it as the actual problem.And just because I don't have a solution to it doesn't negate it as a problem either.We both know that each generation there is a new wave of kids being born that have no fiscal experience or responsibility and will gladly spend their parents money fueling bad practice.It's still a problem. And educating consumers can impact this. Maybe you can't convince the kids, but you can convince the parents.I remember people on /vr/ talking about how parents reacted to having to buy the SNES when it was new, saying it's exploitative, etc.Is this rare? Maybe. Doesn't invalidate it.>>734019630>tantrumYeah yeah, tug my sleeve. I read it. I'm sorry you feel that way, etc.
>>734019195Nigga epstein literally created /pol/, chuds are cattle
>>734019612>How many of those flopped games were from actual economic pressure created by consumersmost of them>as opposed to various other economic reasonESL, forcing things into black-and-white scenarios when in reality they stack
>Operation Ebin Furry is underwayLolLmao
>>734009989>I’m against any law that forces game‑development studios to keep their servers running indefinitelyGreat! So anyway, did you want to talk about SKG because that is entirely unrelated?
>>734019901>bot is pouting and trying to find a new target>because it didn't learn what chewing felt likeI never realized LLMs were so jealous of mastication
>>734020068>new targetAnon... the last 3 of your posts have been exactly the same.It doesn't matter if it's you or not, but come on nobody is believing that.
>>734020179>now its defensive again
>>734020220I guess that's a defense? I'm just pointing out the facts.You're welcome to challenge it if you think it's worth it.I can tell you in advance I don't generally care who wrote what post, I respond to them indiviudally.The fact they're all geentext with a reaction image, all in the same style, it's hard to imagine it's not you.And what difference would it make. I'm not going away or ignoring you, relax.
>>734018286>we need to get rid of all government regulationsI agree, let's get rid of copyright.>NO NOT LIKE THATBootlickers make me sick.
>>734006135>create life>"wow, cool game! I consent to praying to god to play it">god: *uninstalls sun*woooooooow
>>734007089yeah ok fag, maybe stop invading neighbouring countries Vlad
>>734020330>>734020179>>734019901The westoids really aren't sending their best.
>>734018286>"we want x">"we don't want y"Guilty as charged. I bet you thought you were being real smart for a second.
>Government bad.>Why?>They are corrupt and easily bribed by corporations>What about this movement?>No, that's bad.>Why?>It hurts corporations that bribe governmentsRiveting discussion.
>>734021313Not sure what you mean by that.I don't speak for my entire country, I don't speak for anyone but me.And yeah this is casual conversation about nothing between 2 strangers.Not sure what you were expecting. People using words like "defense" makes me think it's like an argument or debate from their side, but they also just keep complaining about defense, while providing no offense. And I'm not providing an offense either, so what even is this lol. Feels like coddling, which is kind of what I signed up for I guess.
The most ironic thing is that SKG has a faster and better chance to be passed in the US than the EU.
>>734021582It's a bit 50/50 with the US, because they can pull up that EULA lawsuit from the 90's (?) that basically said that the EULA is binding even with ridiculous claims.
>>734019939economic pressure created by consumers would imply active participation in a boycott, what voting with your wallet aka "do nothing and get raped" is, something that didnt happen with any of the games that flopped. Spending 1 trillion making a game when you know youll only ever make half that back is not economic pressure created by consumers.
>>734021495>so what even is thisI'm building a collection of screenshots replying to bots to prove I'm normal so people will listen to me when I call this a shill campaign.
>>734021582>the corporate bootlicker government would pass SKGlol
