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>we actually get an AAA unforgiving and brutal game
>/v/ spends 24/7 hating and seething at the game and gloats at how much beter Arc Raiders will do for being casual dad gamer slop
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>/v/ spends 24/7 hating and seething at the game
I'm having a blast tho?
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>AAA
Keep your slop goy. No such thing as a hard core AAA game because they have to capture a wide audience.
And no, dork souls isn't a AAA game and elden ring is a casual version of it for the wider audience
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>>734086318
>marathon
>unforgiving and brutal game
also, who are you quoting?
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>>734086318
Preach it queen
#fuckDrumpf
#freePalestin
#TransRifghts
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>>734086318
It's okay, fellow blastamaniac. History will prove us right.
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>>734086583
>>marathon
>>unforgiving and brutal game
You didn't play it
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>>734087008
nobody has played it.
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Im having a blast
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>unforgiving and brutal game
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Marathon IS brat
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>>734086318
>its WOKE
>yeah brah how so?
>IT JUST IS OK
>I FEEL IT IN MY BONES
every time.
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Just deleted it after a couple of matches. I do not understand the appeal of extraction shooters. They play just like BRs but with more looting and inventory management than fighting. Is so boring.
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>>734087221
>that whore
opinion discarded
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>>734086318
Marathon IS brat.
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>>734086318
>unforgiving and brutal
You spelled slow and uninspired wrong
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>>734087241
>>734087481
What the fuck does that mean? I'm too much of an unc to get it.
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>>734087117
>>734087514
Malding and in denial
Ure bad
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>>734086318
>unforgiving and brutal game
What the fuck does this mean? It's a PvP shooter. What makes a PvP shooter more brutal and unforgiving than another? Those things depend on what enemies you face.
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>>734087778
You are trying to make sense of irony poisoned shitposters
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>>734087995
In most PVP you start on even grounding and lose nothing match to match. Extraction shooters make you actively lose strength and go into subsequent matches worse off. So, unfairness is generally the brutal part, and getting shafted and put into the victim box is the unforgiving part.
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>> I finally get a game I can bully casuals on simply by knowing how to play and having zero to do with skill.
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>>734086318
Not sure what you mean OP, i'm having a blast over here.
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>>734088229
Holy COPE
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>>734087995
You lose your progress, you can be boxed by hard pve enemies, you can get hunted down by ove hitsquads, you can get caught by crippling hazards, etc...
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>>734088313
it's true. The fps deathmatch was perfected over 20 years ago. Extraction modes are just for sweats that need an advantage. The entire premise is predicated on one player having a handicap. It's extra steps to soften the skill differences so even retards can dominate if they put in the work.
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dadniggers and jobgoyims hate it when skilled players "ruined" their 30min play time
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>taking a niche genre like extraction shooters and making it even more niche but also expect to get tons of players for some reason
>spend hundreds of millions of dollars on this
lmao bungie lost so bigly
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>unforgiving
You can enter with a poverty kit and come out with blues.
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>>734088613
>its still a weekday
>wait till friday night
>its resident evil release weekend
>no one wants to burn out before the launch day
>this is normal
>50k is more then healthy
Heh, if you do a flip when you jump on thursday i'll be a blast for me.
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>>734088535
Ok but don't cry
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>finally get a recent game in the vectorheart style
>it's a liveservice extraction shooter from a company everyone hates
>style is now dead forever
thanks, guys
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I've put 30 hours into it over this weekend. It's good, but its also fucking infuriating and disheartening. Once you move past the butthurt of being killed in 0.4 seconds, it's fun. You just have to let go and say yourself oh well start again with a sponsor kit.
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>>734089460
all day dying is free my dude...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphJIItPHuM
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>>734089880
The problem is that I can do any of this in any other extraction shooter. It doesn't really have any uniqueness other than the aesthetic alone
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>>734089460
This is the biggest tragedy of the whole thing
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I'm actually enjoying the test but I think when the honeymoon phase is over with the graphics, music, and presentation style I will be so bored so I'm going to hold off on buying it and see if it just flops right away or not. I regret buying battlefield 6, the game got so boring after just 40 hours.
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The ayatollah is dead and Marathon is dying. it's a good week to be a white man
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The game is simply fine but only having three maps on launch with one extra mid-season map (that is locked behind keys so not something you can freely access) is ridiculous. Neither Perimeter nor Marsh felt particularly interesting as maps.

Trios is clearly the intended game mode as you have to refrain from shooting any AI in solos lest someone hear and rape you. All of my solo runs today basically involved being silent and then bumming whichever fool decided to shoot some robots. In trios you can actually interact with the AI more and do the events.

Looting seems pretty uninteresting as most items are of miniscule value and you fill up immediately, especially with a non-free loadout as you'll be bringing more ammo stacks due to how much you can burn through.

It'd be fine if it was free or like £10. The overall execution of the style is nice, though I generally don't like the shell designs, and some of the areas have a nice atmosphere.
Also it seems like absolutely everything will be wiped every 3 months which I imagine will get extremely fatiguing.
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Oh look, so now we have a bunch of underage retards arguing which corporate live service looter shooter is less garbage?
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>>734090151
Yes I have been following the trailers and previews for a while and was hyped, hoping the crazy world of Marathon mixed with this 3D printed future would make a good game. I don't hate the game but would have preferred a single player or co-op like Helldivers.

It's a cool world they've made but you can't interact with anything, nothing on the desks move if you shoot them. There's lots of containers and boxes and cupboards but only a few open. There's vehicles everywhere but they don't move.

I would actually like to play some sort of space colony management game in this setting, with dudes in space suits doing jobs and all the vehicles moving around.

Looks like another old IP dead thanks to trannies fags and jews.
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>>734090583
There was an autist last night who spent hours going mental about how low TTK was for pros and if you didn't like it you were a boomer/unc, and he wouldn't brook any criticism about it. It was quite a display of cringe
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>>734087778
shitty normie meme, brat is just a retarded roastie empowerment term
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>>734090464
>The game is simply fine but only having three maps on launch with one extra mid-season map (that is locked behind keys so not something you can freely access) is ridiculous. Neither Perimeter nor Marsh felt particularly interesting as maps

I am on the cusp of purchasing but I bet they will have the fucking gall to charge money to access other maps. Battlepass or expansion whatever, like with Destiny. Devs have got so fucking lazy and entitled it's disgusting. 5 years and millions of dollars for this game.

I think i will wait a couple of weeks after release and see how it plays, if any changes were made.
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>>734090853
I honestly didn't even consider this naively, yeah I don't think I'm going to like this enough to pony up $30 once every six months when there is wayyyy less content than destiny. This whole thing feels like a side project that became the main course when destiny playercounts finally collapsed
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>>734086318
/v/ has officially reached the point where newfaggots from grifter channels make talking about new vidya impossible. All of them are here to brigade anything that isn't a gooner adjacent game. We also have a new breed of jeet monke schizo joining along with them who choose to poorly but incessantly spam whatever game topic is setting off their down syndrome this year.
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>>734086318
Yeah we actually tried your game and thought it was shit, sorry not sorry.
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>>734090853
It's a purely PvP game so you'd hope that all maps, runners and weapons would be freely accessible for everyone but I wouldn't bet on it after the first year
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Anyone else have this weird feeling after playing, like eyes are wide and brain feels wired? I think that's the hook, no game has given me this feeling before.
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>>734091320
The cash shop dlc monetisation shit was the beginning of the end for games.
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>>734090853
Marathon Standard Edition will include access to all updated content
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>>734091201
counterpoint: the game sucks and the shills suck worse
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>>734086318
Yeah, too bad it's boring as fuck.
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>>734086318
the only "brutal and unforgiving" part is how fast the stamina meter runs up so you're forced to slow walk and hard ADS everywhere to give the crossplay console droolers a chance

>>734089460
CARI has done an unimaginable amount of damage to art style discussion
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>>734087910
Concord.
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aint nothing hardcore bout extraction slop lil pup
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>>734086425
This counts as seething behind an irony mask
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>>734090853
Brother, all you're getting for your $40 is whatever's in this playtest, the other hero and the other map they held back, then a long roadmap of dripfed shit for the next year, just like Highguard had.
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>>734090852
I thought it meant mesugaki
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>>734086318
Extraction shooters can burn in hell along with Battle Royale games.
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>>734091501
CARI has been a godsend for shit you haven't seen since 2003 and don't have a name for
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>>734090069
I like fps that’s not mil sim so I like marathon
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>>734091501
>how fast the stamina meter runs up
I've never really had much of an issue with heat build up outside of sliding/using thrusters. You can also bunny hop whilst sprinting to go even faster
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>>734086431
>IN CASE OF RAPE OR DEVIANT BEHAVIOR, INITIATE IMMEDIATE RAPE PROTOCOL
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>>734086318
concord 2 thread?
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>>734091769
You can level up your heat meter no one seems to say this ever
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>>734091580
cope squared. See what I did there. That's you. That's what you sound like.
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>>734091840
No, this is XDefiant 2. Concord 2 has already been cremated.
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>>734091840
Concord 3 or 4 depends on who is counting
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>unforgiving and brutal
?????

Bro Marathon is just a battle royale but boring
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>>734091905
Thanks for proving my point
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>>734086318
>unforgiving and brutal game

It's shit. It's neither of those things really, it's a boring baby game and there's nothing interesting about it. Go play Tarkov like an adult if you want "unforgiving" or shut the fuck up and stick to COD and Battlefield.
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Damn marathon appears to have won
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having a BLAST i dont get the hate honestly
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>>734091679
i can live just fine without a handful of zoomer "wrong generation" fetishists trying to categorize shit they were barely alive for and don't understand the context of, and then shotgunning that bullshit across the wider internet
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>>734086318
it's truly lightning in a bottle
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>>734092012
Some concords are like passing ships in the night. no hype. no shill support. They just come and go. But The 100 million dollar flops. those magnificent beasts leave more entertainment in their wakes than 1000 indie futa gatcha simulators. Those are the Concordian triumphs of which there are now 3 thanks to marathon. R.i.p. bungie
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I don't get it, extraction seems it could be a fairly cool genre for crazy locals, verticality and mazes out the ass, and strong movement
Why is everything so slow and all the maps just flat areas with science buildings
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>>734091920
qrd on Xdefiant? Sounds like a retarded Ubisoft title.
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>people think generic zero movement ADS slop is unforgiving and brutal

What happened to /v/ lmao
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>we actually get an AAA unforgiving and brutal game
yea dude its so unforgiving and brutal that we get full free loadouts even if your bank is 0'd out and you have no gear in the bank. So brutal!!!! It's unforgiving!!!!!!
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>>734086318
I played for maybe an hour or two, and I was very bored. I've got at least 500 hours in Tarkov, 150-ish hours in Hunt Showdown, and 1000+ hours in Day Z with mods. This offers absolutely nothing over any of those. The art style is neat, I guess, although nothing special and not enough to make me want to play it over literally any other shooter. Sorry, but this isn't what I want from Bungie or a new Marathon game. If they had gone the route of a true sequel in that series in the vein of nu-Doom, I would have been all in.
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>>734092496
The average Marathon player's only frame of reference is Destiny 2 crucible, please understand
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>>734092496
>>734092567
Yeah this is just Destiny but shittier
And the actual gameplay loop itself is just Apex but worse
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>>734087995
Losing your gear when you die you retard
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>>734086318
launches on the same day as slay the spire 2, i'd rather grab sts2.
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>>734086425
big balaast enjoyer here. bungie cooked with this one fr
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>>734092759
Lmao, that's what you normalfaggots call brutal? Losing some shit you picked up off of the ground? Kek.
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>>734092829
you sound like every other comic-book-guy faggot on this site, you're so cool and above it all and know everything about video games bro wow you're so cool
the game is fun, you miserable goof
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>>734092829
Yes, dipshit, losing all the shit you've been building up over hours because you ran into someone better than you or better geared than you is pretty much the textbook definition of unforgiving.
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>>734091883
You're adding on teeny tiny amounts
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>>734092496
OP is obviously a retard shitter who got filtered by Tarkov or is a consolebabby who can't even play it and thinks that anything with a slightly higher penalty for dying than COD Warzone is "unforgiving and brutal". But Hunt Showdown and Arc Raiders already did Tarkov-lite for casuals, so the niche is filled.
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>>734092401
It is a retarded Ubisoft title. Got hyped up absurdly by disgruntled and washed CoD players because the game lacked SBMM and Lobby Balancing, only for the populous to fizzle out in months because there's nothing worth chasing and most people who didn't sweat their asses off were spending more times on killcams than actually playing the game. Also it basically wore multiple other Tom Clancy factions like skinsuits.
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>>734086318
>implying I give a shit about either GaaS abortion
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>>734093029
Right, it was the Ubisoft CoD game. That's why the name was vaguely familiar.
>fizzle out in months
I think the same will happen to marathon, but probably in a month and a half.
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>>734092964
>the game is fun
Marathon fucking sucks lmao fag
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>>734086318
I noticed that a lot of people who hate on the game, and explaining their experience with it, it's instantly obvious that they are incredibly dogshit at the game and dont understand how to play. It was expected tho. Make a hard and punishing game, of course shitters gonna mald about it.
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>>734093625
i'm trans btw, forgot to mention
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>>734093625
There are a LOT of bad players its crazy. I got all my faction rep maxed and as I couldn't really do anything else just joined teams to help them out, many people:

>join with a contract for the wrong map
>go to the nearest area even though they don't need to go there
>insist on wasting all their ammo and health on fighting npcs
>shoot at another player when the correct move is to turn the fuck around or at least wait for us all to be together
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>>734086318
they could have made it not woke, but we NEEDED african robots
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>>734093717
>REEEEEEE
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>>734093625
That's a damn shame I'm so unskilled as to not like it
The game is obviously not for one as bad as I, so I will not be buying it
Again, what a shame
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>>734093813
what?
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>>734086318
>brutal
>Rated T for Teen
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>>734093625
>New player experience is absolute dogshit and you need to play for 10s of hours to get the needle to move from "sucks" to just "bad"
This game is ass.
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>>734093625
Embarrassing bait attempt
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>>734086318
I'm just not interested in "Tarkov but better". The genre's kindof ass for a few glaring issues, and the difficulty is not one of them. The game you mentioned actually made a fun game out of this doodoo format and I've heard no such praise for Marathon.
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>>734093806
The game is good. great even. there are two types of haters currently, the youtube hate bandwagoners, who just enjoy constantly hating on something because their life is miserable, and the clueless shit players who get angry because they dont understand what an item does or why they died to a purple enemy.
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>>734093625
gr8 b8 m8
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>game is filled with totally meaningless gobbledygook "loot" with nebulous value
>fill your inventory with whatever random bits and bobs the game invented to seem like valuable items
>game too fast paced to actually sit and read what all this garbage I'm picking up is or what its for
>never enough ammo and never find any

This game is extraordinarily annoying to play. It's legitimately boring and can't decide whether it wants to be a frantic shooter or a slow inventory management simulator, and it doesn't work at all together.
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>>734094132
>Come try our game!
>Ok I'll come try game
>Play a few hours
>I'm not having any fun
>Yeah you just suck ass sorry this game isn't for new players
>Uninstall
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>>734093625
the asshurt shitters could not keep themselves from instantly replying.
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>>734094219
Do you enjoy arc raiders more?
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>>734094132
>it's good
>it's great
>it's just the haters
Yeah, I'm sure that's why it couldn't break 150k on launch then never broke 100k on any of the weekend days. Especially because the board is full of people like me who do nothing
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It really does get better the more you play but no extraction shooter is worth more than $20. I will simply wait for the sale, if it survives that long.
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>>734094132
>Uhhh there's no valid criticisms actually, it's the hecking haters!
How do you type this kind of shit, even ironically
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I play single player games
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>>734094375
Never played it.
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>Y-YOURE JUST SHIT OK THIS IS TOO HARDCORE 4 U

lmao why should I play this watered down dogshit when Tarkov already exists?
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>>734094219
Yeah, turns out taking Tarkov but replacing real world weapons/ammo/loot with nonsensical science fiction stuff with impossible to decifer inventory images ir symbols isn't fun or intuitive. Loot and ammo management are really clumsy in this.
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I don't play extraction shooters because they're boring.
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>>734094393
I-it's not even launch yet
Huge surge on launch day, trust!
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>>734094393
It is simply not a mass appeal game, at all. Things normies won't like:

>sci fi
>colour pallette
>game barely explains mechanics
>get fucking destroyed in seconds when meeting another player

People probably feel like when I first played Apex. I got out of 2.5 years of jail and had only played PS2 games that entire time (mostly Gran Turismo 4 and Final Fantasy X). Apex had just come out and someone showed me a video of a streamer playing, it looked fucking amazing. Oh my god the learning curve, after not playing an fps for years, and now this high stakes looting and avoiding the ring and high (at the time) ttk.

It was so different but I wanted to get better at it, the most important thing to start with was just how not to die instantly when meeting other players. Once you have that down, you have time to think and respond to the attack.

People will learn in Marathon but it's new so you need to take the time, it's just that learning is very hard when you don't have much time to think in a sub-second ttk game.
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>hardcore
>Marathon

This game is quite literally just a battle royale but badly paced. What do you mean hardcore? PUBG was one of the biggest games in the world.
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>>734094527
>Uhhh there's no valid criticisms actually, it's the hecking haters!
Point me to the valid critisim. 90% of the comments are disingenuous, calling the game the worst thing that happened to mankind since the black plague, when in reality the game is completely fine. You think you guys are allowed to shittalk, but im not?
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>>734094794
>high (at the time) ttk
I mean low ttk, fuck
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>>734086318
>WOW MY ROBLOX GEAR WAS STOLEN BY NIGGER ASSASIN SHOTGUNING MY BUTHOLE INVISIBLE AND DAYS LATER I GOT SNIPER BY A CHINK UNDERGOUND SO HARDCORE
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>>734094798
were in the cope phase of shilling where everyone just doesnt "get it" lmao and shills accus people of being shit
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>>734094794
This is literally a game tailor made for normies lol
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>>734094665
Because Tarkov is camp simulator
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>>734094965
Beware the ides of March
R.I.P. Bungie
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>>734094992
true. thats why they are struggling to finish the tutorial.
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>>734094876
>calling the game the worst thing that happened to mankind since the black plague]
>Talks about being disingenuous
Holy fucking drama queen, why are you so fragile over someone not liking the game
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>>734095110
The game is so shit that I never even downloaded it let alone begin or finish a tutorial.
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>>734095118
because he's a shill or tourist. you can't reason with these retards, just keep shitting on their garbage game to make them mad so they fuck off
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>>734094992
Man normies do NOT like high concept sci-fi. Stuff like Blade Runner and Dune does not captivate them.
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>>734094794
>normies don't love scifi
lol
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>>734094992
No it seems to be a new game that is a miserable experience to play for new players and geared entirely towards a few masochists who already play Tarkov.
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>>734095215
Star wars and guardians of the galaxy are the most normalfag shit ever and they eat it up.
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>>734094794
>PS2 games in jail
what country do you live in
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The only fun moment in this game I had was sniping some nigger before extract and then sitting there waiting for it to go, only for someone else to run up and I shotgun them in the face and then let them extract with me while they were downed.
That was the ONLY time I was friendly with anyone in this game, every other time its safer just to blow their brains out and move on, even the guys who talk and seem chill.
Also there is no loot worth doing "risky" shit for. Like those boxes that spawn in a bunch of the NPCs with bloated health. I one time did it and just used invis to sneak up and quickly rifle through the box, and all of it was just a bunch of garbage.
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>played the arc riders beta
>didn't get the appeal
>played this
>didn't either
why do people like these kinds of games?
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>>734095464
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>>734095209
I've been here longer than you lived on this planet. We used to discuss games here. Now it's mostly hate threads and coomer stuff. And stop pretending to be an oldfag you little shit. go back to your grifter youtube creator.
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>>734095503
Seems like they have Stockholm syndrome or something.

>I've played it for 30 hours so I must be having fun right?
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>>734095426
England. You can also have a 360 but its much more expensive to buy (has to be approved security cleared vendor so they jack the price up)
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>>734095575
>trying this hard
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>>734095596
It's going to be a great teaching moments for the modern audience once again.
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>>734095503
Believe it or not, some people do not want to play the same shit they've been playing for 30 years.
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>>734095503
adrenaline and gambling even if both of these its stupid when you realice the moment cod chink nigger pros with cheats dominate the fucking game making it antinoob friendly
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>>734086318
>we first sentence
>/v/ second sentence
>Marathon-Key-Art.png

Hello saar. Bungie sent you 2 cents.
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>>734095575
My dad can beat up your dad!
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>>734095575
lmao if you weren't a retarded shill you'd know /v/ has been talking about vidya nonstop the past week.

It's not our fault we can see through the brown unwiped poop hands staining your keyboard (or worse your phone) as you type you fucking jeet.
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>>734095596
Marathon is weirdly addictive even if you have a shit time. I honestly think the bright colours are stimulating my brain like a cup of coffee does. My vision feels different after playing, eyes wide and synapses firing all over the place.
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>>734095685
But chess still mogs every other game.
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>>734086318
>implying /v/ did anything but shit on Arc
I don't know why you think comparing it to shit makes it look good but that argument is way too common these days
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>>734095781
go is objectively superior
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>>734095779
>Marathon is weirdly addictive even if you have a shit time
>Stockholm syndrome
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>>734095779
It is 10 times more effective if you take estrogen
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>>734095821
fair enough
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>>734094798
Yeah, there's essentially no penalty for dying because it's impossible to care about or get attached to any of the weapons and loot. Not like Tarkov where I spent a fortune upgrading a nice gun I liked. All of these look the same and feel the same to use. It is also not hard to get more, and the game gives you plenty of free loadouts. It's a super casual game pretending it isn't. Is it bad? No, it doesn't feel bad to play even though nothing about it impresses me. But it's also not worth $40 to me either.
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>>734089221
yup all those copes were delish.
dont forget
>tide is turning
>vibe shifting
>dude that iconic Bungie Gunplay™
>this game plays like nothing else on the market, its so unique
>deep questing
>pve is so good
then it turns out the faction grind is a bunch of press E on the other side of the map bullshit. you actually want to avoid bots so you dont get insta-thirsted by some rat and the 2 maps are some of the hottest dogshit ive had the displeasure of playing.

so now the cope is
>trust me it gets better once you put in more than 2 hours(past the refund window)
>dude the Marathon ship on release will save this game.
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having a BLAST i dont get the hate
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I thought the entire appeal was the cyberpunk look and feel? Why am I outside stepping on dirt? Why does it just feel like every other game? I like the glitched loading screens and introductions to the factions, so why can't they have that feel throughout the game?? Shit sucks.
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>>734086318
Extraction shooters are inherently slop. You are the casual.
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>>734095949
Finally people are realizing that Bungie shouldn't get a pass just because the gunplay is halfway decent. If only people weren't slurping during the entirety of D2
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>>734095739
>you'd know /v/ has been talking about vidya nonstop the past week.
Im glad you like it here. How is your first week?
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I'm glad this game is pretty casual. I keep voice chat off and just wanna enjoy the cool art direction, clean graphical style, and neat guns while killing robots. Real players I've encountered are thankfully terrible and easy to kill, and if my MMR ever gets so high that I start running into sweats I'll just sandbag with no starting gear for a while until it goes back down. Wish it was just an arena shooter with a campaign mode, extraction shooter is truly the worst of both worlds, just easier to monetize as a product.
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>>734096004
my nigga. someone who gets it. makes no fucking sense man
>super high tech omg ong fr fr
>building consists of two flat level bases in a swamp
???????
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>>734096041
>slurping during the entirety of D2

I dont get how people could play that shit for so long. Shooting healthbars in the same runs over and over to get a gun with a higher number next to it. It was fun for me, for like 10 hours? Then I dropped it.

Why can't they just make a cool story game again, no online bullshit.
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>>734095503
I haven't played either. Maybe one day I will. Or I'll just wait until the Chinese-made anime version happens.
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>>734096102
yup game should be exclusively raiding the marathon ship specially the planet parts it use as "camouflage" ? "decoration"? "shield"? "drip"?
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>>734096041
>Finally people are realizing that Bungie shouldn't get a pass just because the gunplay is halfway decent. If only people weren't slurping during the entirety of D2
I really don't understand the gunplay thing either. Feels like a bad fucking console shooter from 2009. Warzone feels 10x more smoother and slick with its gunplay, it even has leaning on walls and shit. No such thing here.
>>734096102
>>building consists of two flat level bases in a swamp
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>>734096004
That shit is cringe though. It reminded me of Hades. I'm pretty sure it even has some of the same voice actors. Bungie has been reduced to non-animated dialogue and cutscenes like a fucking indie game with no budget. And the environments are a hideous, nonsensical mishmash of colors (oh look, this building is neon green but the floor outside was bright pink, isn't that what the kids like?). The design philosophies behind this game are just bad.
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>>734096102
I thought the colony would be working still. Like you know in Doom 3 with all the crazy machinery doing random things. Like that but bright neon colours.
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>>734096193
what's this from?
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>>734086318
Bungie fucked D2 so badly that most people are unwilling to give Marathon a chance.
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>ok we are gonna have an epic raid in the UESC Marathon itself
>except to get inside you need to exfil with an item that lights you up for EVERYONE on the map
>and then you will fight in the ship filled with danger and bosses
>except you can get ganked from behind and 1tapped by another group
who the fuck thought this was good design? what brand of crack were they smoking?
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I still haven't played the demo cuz I got jumpscared by the anticheat. is the anti-cheat one of those kernel shitters that wont uninstall?
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>>734096247
>The gunplay
>You dump 2 mags into the back of a robot
>Repeat this about 5 times
>Run out of ammo
>Die to the 6th robot or the guy who was camping waiting for exactly this to happen
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>>734096270
more funny its that by the amazon cgi trailer logic the planet was invaded by the marathon aliens yet all the gameplay core its killing roblox space marines bots and other players
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>>734096321
I'm gonna wait and see how this works before buying the game (if it lasts that long). I don't have the time commitment or social skills to get a 1337 team together.
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>>734095779
You're having miniature seizures
Consult a neurologist before you crash a car
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>>734096321
Yeah i dont see how bungie will be able to sell the le epic pve content when a player needs to grind out shit just to get to it
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>>734096360
yes. I honestly don't understand how fucked we let this get. Kernel bs, gaas, skins and loot boxes. It's nature I guess but ugly aspect still.
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>>734095779
>best marketer trying his hardest
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>>734094794
Tarkov's short TTK is the reason most people hate the game since unlike a normal shooter or even a BR, you are going to have zero idea when and where enemies are around and yet you're forced to traverse large areas where getting caught in the open by a sniper is literal insta-death, with a headshot one tapping even the strongest shields. I have no fucking idea why Bungie decided to copy that feature, and the game deserves to die for that retarded decision alone.
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>>734096410
Perimeter, Dire Marsh, Outpost. Maybe in future seasons we'll get more interesting levels inside the colony (again if it lasts that long)
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>>734096102
>super high tech omg ong fr fr
>building consists of two flat level bases in a swamp
Its a makeshift colony on a hostile planet, only a few years old. Did you expect skyscrapers and megacities?
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>>734096410
Man, I would love to play some version of this game that was more like Halo or Destiny but set in Marathon. That would have been awesome. What a miserable waste.
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>>734093625
I can have fun while still losing. I don't have fun with this game even when I win. I just explore a bit, have some short fights with some robots(the AI on them is better than average at least),fill my backpack up with random shit and leave
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>>734096451
>yes.
welp, guess im passin on it, thanks
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BLAST = HAVING
FORM = RETVRNED
CHUDS = SEETHING
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Is this the cope the shills are going through now?
you lost faggot
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>>734096270
An extraction shooter set in a derilect alien super structure sounds like it could be cool as shit
Instead you're raiding a purple trailer
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>>734086318
>Bungle self-published game
>Already doing bad with Destiny 2
>Marathon needs to sell gangbusters for years and become a cultural impact in order to avoid Sony closing Bungie and taking their IPs away
>Nexon published game
>Does okay with The Finals
>Can always recuperate with their F2P games if Arc Raiders failed like Lawbreakers
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>>734096321
Ex-Valorant guy is the game director
Everything makes sense in this game when you realize everything has been designed with streamers and failed e-sports players in mind

CasualJohn99 isn't the target audience despite the fact he's the one who will keep the lights on in a live service game
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>>734094794
>normies don't like scifi
Normies will tolerate any genre so long as it isn't too weird and lets them experience it at their own pace or in a safe, structured way. (Like how Star Wars is fucking weird, but the audience follows Luke, who is a normal, relatable person that accompanies them through the weird alien shit.

Problem is, Marathon doesn't have either of those as its art style (ironically the only novel thing about it) is extremely hit or miss.

Then, when you add the hardcore PVP nature of the game with its low TTK and 'you just lost your shit, deal with it' mechanic, you have distilled normalfag repellent.

If it had a PVE mode you could do alone or with friends, like Destiny, it probably would've been ok. But like this, it's toast.
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Oh and today I found one of the loudspeaker announcements in Dire Marsh copying the "inactive for 999999... days" joke from portal.

Can't wait to see Bungie trannies on welfare.
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>>734096158
>>734096247
>>734096375
The gunplay is serviceable enough that people fall back on it as a crutch when the entire game is burning down around them. I think it's mostly because of the looter shooter angle and MMO framework that everyone gives it a pass. It's not even as good as Titanfall 2
>t. played for 10 years
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>>734096551
This. My inventory is full of random meaningless junk within minutes after killing a few bots and looting a couple of boxes. And then I just get out. Across maybe 4 or 5 matches, I've seen other players one time and I killed one of them before the other ran off and disappeared. Then I extracted. But none of the loot has any special meaning, I've not encountered a single thing I was excited to find or get. I've not gotten, found, or used any gun that I would have been sad to lose. The inventory space is so small and the loot so trivial that matches end quickly and have zero stakes.
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>>734086318
Its called Marathon because you're just running around
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>>734096551
It's all cool dude. To be clear I don't even mind if someone doesn't like the game, just be normal about it. Im getting more and more tired of the internet and starting to act like an asshole myself.
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>>734086318
I can't play it because the anti-cheat thinks my audio interface is a hackerman device. After I played Destiny (and everything else) with it no problem.

Bravo bungo
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As a 4'7" Asian woman from Detroit, I'm really enjoying Marathon and have been running trios all day
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>nobody is interested in playing or watching it on the final night of the test
Grim. Too late to delay it or make it f2p?
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>>734096815
marathon unironically looks so Bazzcoded its not even funny
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>>734096628
>the audience follows Luke, who is a normal, relatable person that accompanies them through the weird alien shit.

I was thinking earlier, the shells you choose from have no fucking character at all. What little chance they have with dialogue, there's nothing. I guess they are literally shells for the player to inhabit, but come on make me play one even though it's not optimal, because I like it? They had some personality in the trailers but that's all gone now apparently.
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>>734096491
Tarkov heavily leans into realism. Ammo type/caliber matters. Armor penetration matters. Type of armor you wear and the condition of your gear matters. You don't just get one tapped usually if you've got high end gear, especially not by players who don't also. Bungie tried to take the idea without the realism aspect or depth of it and it doesn't really work or make sense.
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I find this game really weird because it feels both casual and hardcore, like they couldn't figure out what they actually wanted to do with this game. Oh and I hate like 90% of the guns in this game. Very few actually feel good, most just kind of exist and the rest just feel bad.
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>>734096801
Sorry but you aren't playing the game properly.
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>>734096906
But are your robot bodies exactly that (shells) and you're just some asshole who's projecting your consciousness into them? Do you ever see the real you in the game, like in the pre-misson stuff?
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>>734096906
Originally you could customize your shell and that would've been an easy way to add player attachment

Now its just heroes like every online game but the heroes have zero personality
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>multibillion dollar comoany getting mogged by fucking mewwwwgenics
>during their free period
how fucking embarassing
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>>734096321
So, Tarkov labs all over again then? Need a keycard that is rare and hard to find to even go there, only to get camped and murdered there pretty much instantly for your trouble.
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>>734096885
I suspect that Nishino is forcing Hulst's hand. If Hulst had been promoted to SIE CEO, he'd probably give it more time, more money. But Nishino seems to be against a lot of what Ryan/Hulst pushed for during Covid. My guess is it's swim or sink time. No reason to throw bad money after good. If Bungie ends up sinking, it ends up sinking. Sweep it up and move on.
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>>734096801
I found this game awhile ago and it's basically chinese Tarkov with more QoL and less obtuse faggotry and it's better than Marathon, and nobody talks about it but it has a steady fanbase
the loot in Marathon is just shit. Meaningless garbage.
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>>734097052
Kek, I finally got to level 10 which was my "goal" for the slam but now I'm going to go play mewgenics. Between that and slay the spire 2 coming out this week I don't need to buy any big studio live service shit. This game is okay but just not very interesting
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>>734086318
>hero extraction shooter
Make it f2p and give me a pve mode and I'll try it out.
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>>734097027
We don't even know where you're being inserted and exfilled from. A ship in orbit? Earth? Not explained. Just a floating AI head that takes advantage of your memory loss.

Some lobby area where you can practice abilities and weapons, walk around, customise a bit and just chill between games would have gone a long way. Like the Super Destroyer in Helldivers.
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>>734097040
Honestly to me they feel like they have too much personality for what they are
They're piloted dummy bodies why do they make quips about activating their ults in specific voices?
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>>734097197
I think marathon needs either npcs, or players on the map. Not both at the same time. It's like 2 separate games taking place on the same level.
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>>734097213
One of the codex entries says they all have a "personality matrix", its essentially the robot aware you're there and talking to you

I guess bungo really felt the need for quips
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>>734086318
>>we
Good blasting saar
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>>734097325
Everything about the game feels at odds with itself like this. PvEvP extraction was a bad choice
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>>734096937
Tarkov leans into realism only when it's an excuse for Nikkita to do something that'll further the ballcrushing of the game, and random (head, eyes) out of nowhere were a major problem when I played years ago which no armor would prevent unless you were running around in Killa's trashcan and couldn't see shit, especially on bigger maps like Woods or Shoreline, and even the longer LOS portions of Customs. Maybe that's changed, but I doubt it, and it's part a big part of the reason the game never took off the way it could have despite the huge Twitch audience, especially when it became common knowledge, right or wrong, that hackers were infesting the game, along with how punishing it was to play as a solo while squads could easily insurance fraud any potential gear losses.
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>>734097071
You might be onto something since Sony's financial quarter ends at the end of March. Force Marathon to come out, see how it does, and tie Hulst to the outcome either way.
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>>734097367
>I guess bungo really felt the need for quips
Destiny was praised for their """lore""" and looks and then I played it and its Guardians of the Galaxy quips with a super pretentious lore and toilet looking armors everywhere

Exactly like Halo so it fits
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>>734097197
Yes bro make it free and make the cheating problem 100x times worse great idea. How about getting a job?
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>>734097202
If it's all kept secret it's probably a setup for an ebin 500IQ twist where the AI giving you jobs is bad or you've been tricked into working for the ayys (like that shitty Tom Cruise movie) or something that will let us have our Avengers Assemble moment where we 'take the fight to them'.
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>there are already people using cheats in the sever slam
Oh man this game is fuuuuuuucked.
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>>734097367
What is the tactical benefit of making some sloppa quip in your ear when you're trying to work
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>>734086318
Don't know what you're talking about, I've been working out for weeks to return to form to be able to have a blast with this new awesome game, Marathon™. All my friends already play but I feel I need to be up to par to their physique before I Blast Away©.
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>>734097513
I think from the getgo the ghosts were loved by the BBT-type crowd and seen as smarmy candy-coated cheese by everyone else. That and the fuckin Cayde guy who seems to be alive or dead depending on if Bunjie wants to pay Nathan Fillion's asking price. Quips weren't too bad outside of those two.
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>>734086318
/v/ hates everything you must be new here
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>>734096991
lmao, nice try retard shill. There is no other way to play the game. There is no way to play it wrong, it's just ridiculously simplistic and casual with meaningless loot and no purpose or direction.
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Is it just one game mode?
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>>734097953
>zoomies shit and piss themselves over this 100% corporate shill
>screams at his orbiter retard pay piggies to play marathon
>drops the game the literal second his paycheck clears
>goes back to playing arc raiders same day because it gives him more money
lol LAMO you kids are fucking shit brain NPCs
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This game is full blown AI generated slop.
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>>734098345
You're full blown AI generated slop.
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>>734098345
no, it's literally not
you're incapable of perceiving nuance or even forming an original coherent thought
whats with the rise of
>anything I don't like is ai slop
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>>734098380
>>734098451
The menus, loading screens, designs of everything, etc are all AI generated and it is extremely obvious. Cope harder Bunjeets.
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>>734098513
AI woudlnt make stuff this retarded
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>>734098113
do you know how extractions work? you get a lot of mini quests between competing players in a big map
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>>734098513
you have no idea what you're talkig about
you're just making noises you've heard other even dumb faggots make
the design is great, the UI works perfectly
you're just dumb and have mental problems
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>>734098513
Yeah.... why do you say that? Say what you will about the art style and UX design but it's hardly a common look. Do you think "AI" = "Digital-looking"?
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>it took 96 years for the UESC task force to arrive at Tau Ceti after receiving Leela's distress call
>the corps all got there at the same time

Shit don't add up
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>>734098775
Top kek that this is your gripe.
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>>734098775
>multitrillion dollar project in distress
>coprs who invested get alerted
>corps mobilize to salvage what they cam
I swtg you're all legitmately stupid
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>>734098754
>the design is great, the UI works perfectly
No the design is slapdash and the UI is jank.
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>>734097325
>>734097440
git gud
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>>734098864
and what the fuck would you know about design anon?
I bet you've never opened photoshop once, or could even hazard a guess as to how high budgeted creative projects work
you're some retarded guy who, again, is objectively wrong and sounds dumb trying to assert some misguided non-authority based on things you already heard other people say
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>>734098961
I literally did product design at school.
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>>734098864
you just said nothing
if you can't even define the visual issues beyond slapdash and jank, you need to go the fuck back retard
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>>734099023
Slapdash - done hurriedly and without care.
Jank - clunky and unintuitive
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>>734096716
It's funny because there's apparently a Prestige Shield for the LMGs that basically prints ammo, and it overflows the magazine without limit.
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>>734097554
>uhhhh cheats
git gud
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>>734098775
Not really sure of the lore of this game, but say something was discovered on Mars today that prompted a worldwide mars rush. All interested and capable parties would be arriving there at the same time, around July 2027 give or take a month. Outside of FTL travel, travel times are relatively static given any moment's scientific advancement, and everyone has to abide by gravity (making Nov 2026 the first logical period to make a transfer attempt).
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>>734098754
>>734098773
The UI is literally just Destiny. The art style is hideous. And those loading screens with the moths chewing computer cables or climbing on a robot are 10000% blatantly AI generated. Bungie shills are so pathetic, holy fuck. This company didn't even used to need shills, which is the saddest part of all.
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>>734099081
How do either of those things correlate with AI?

Also what fucking human uses the word "slapdash"?
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>>734099208
What does AI have to do with the comment I replied to and directly quoted?
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>>734098775
The first corpo representatives that give you mission in the new game probably traveled together on the UESC Equanimity. What is not adding up?
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>>734099140
Mar simply existing where it does is the rush. Operation escape the indians has commenced.
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>>734099197
m8 I hate bunjie. You're just building a really shit case here. Crying wolf about AI diminishes how much of a slur that word should be.
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>>734099001
hows that working out for you?
>>734099081
these aren't productive visual term shorthand, you're not identifying an issue
here let me help you dumbfuck
the readability of the smaller items is an issue, I'd say they need to make the boxes overall slightly larger
there, that's a clea definable issue I've identified and given a solution too
>hurr durr it looks like ass ai bibbidy bop
fuckin moron, enjoy you're interior design degree stocking groceries
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>>734099335
I got an A.
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>>734086318
>An triple A
SAAAR
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a good game helps me forget about the fact that i'm wasting my time. marathon made me hyper aware that i was wasting my time. i'm glad this and nioh 3 did demos, because i will also not be buying this.
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>>734099354
no one cares about grades in the real world you fucking dipshit
what great job did you get as a result of those grades?
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>>734099140
The lore is actually completely fucked, just been looking into it. The colony we are exploring is not the first. That was glassed by aliums 100 years ago. The Marathon took 300 years to reach Tau Ceti so all this time has gone by and humans have better FTL travel so they re-colonised it, despite the death and disaster that already happened.

But again everyone disappeared probably by aliums. None of this makes much sense. The colony we are exploring is brand new not 100 years old.
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>>734098730
So it's one game mode.
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>>734099441
Yeah so anyway this game has absolute terrible slapdash design that looks like it was shat out in a few hours with little to no thought by someone who doesn't really understand how to use colours and especially "non standard" ones.
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>>734099506
Yes
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is this the only project bungie has been working on? feels pretty lackluster. if i small indie team made it I would be impressed.
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>/v/ spends 24/7...
I'm not doing anything
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>>734099354
I also don't have a problem with the UI, but too many people cry about it so they probably have a point. I'm also used to just read things and try to understand them so I'm instantly in the minority on this issue.
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>>734099318
What gets me the most is that Steam said you have to disclose the use of ai in your game. But they let the leash loosen a bit by saying its ok if you only used ai for game code. Nigga???? I only used a.i. for the enemy models and rigging, nothing else and I am forced to bend the knee? To me code and learning ue5 is way more important to me than some fbx files. What a world.
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>>734097516
Why would I give a shit about other people cheating in a singleplayer game?
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>>734099464
Continuing. I thought the corps were after old tech that went aboard the Marathon (maybe Earth regressed as it sent the best it had away to Tau Ceti in desperation), but its just taking back modern day stuff, even though the buildings and items are 3d printed slop.
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>>734088535
That's kind of how I feel about it. I like the look of the game, but so much of the gameplay is dependent on just running around and not doing much, and then, oh, it turns out that someone was behind me. If this is what the genre is like, then it's pretty fucking dumb, but at least Marathon is only $40. It's not my kind of game, but I don't have much hate for it either.
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>>734099464
>>734099651
literally none of this is coherent in any way
you might have a literal learning disability
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>>734099464
>The colony we are exploring is brand new not 100 years old.
can you provide link? im pretty sure we are scavegning the old colony. otherwise the voice logs wouldnt make any sense.
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>>734097554
>dey cheatin
No, they have the thermal scope. This highlights players at any range, inside, outside, smoked, hidden. It can see you and you will get 2 tapped lol
All this game will be within hours of launch is thermal snipers and self reviving medics. It will die because of that primarily.
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>>734099561
Besides more Destiny 2 expansions, I'm pretty sure.
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>>734098775
>Leela says the distress signal will take almost a century to even reach Earth
>The government gets there somehow in the same amount of time
>Despite the Marathon taking three times as long to get there while being purpose built for optimal long distance travel
>Also Durandal would have already contacted Earth about the P'for and how to build weaponry against them
>Also the entirety of Marathon 2 and Infinity would have long since happened by the time they get there
>This includes the protagonist and Durandal becoming gods and the establishment of the combined Bob and S'fit interplanetary society
>But fuck all that runner, collect the doohickeys on this planet that should have long since been annihilated by the P'for
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>>734086610
>palestine le bad
>Talmud Trump le good
consider rope
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>>734099593
love this witty comment. you are such a funny little clown bro. here is your funny little clown award.
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>>734087221
I imagine her breath smelling like a mix of junk food, cheap booze, cum and coffee/tobacco. Probably mostly cum.
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>>734099696
Yeah i didn't write the story blame Bungie trannies, they're the ones with mental illness, not me, I'm OK, I'm fine.
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I don't hate the game at all, it's not even my type of game, I tend to get bored quick with extraction shooters but it's got the bones to be decent.

I mostly play single player story games and rts stuff but this is surprisingly good for what it is. And mind you I thought it would be total ass.

It's a solid 6.
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>>734099589
Yeah it's all fucked up. If we're being real Valve probably just cares for optics. Everyone living in this capatlistic hellhole wants to use AI to cut out as many jobs as possible, including them. The ethics of replacing creative roles (which honestly, I would even include coders at a certain level) is extremely subjective. A solo indie dev using AI just so they can possibly make their game is kindof a different discussion than a AAA studio using AI so they can cut their artist expenses down by a few bushels of potatoes.

I say fuck it all but I'm old school. But Valve's AI tag doesn't mean much to me because it's so nebulous.
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I've been playing Rook and trying to sneak up on players with the knife, having fun but not the type of game I'll play longterm.
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Legitimately why would you play this over Destiny? Destiny has so much more PvE content.

And if its because you like extract shooters or battle royales then why would you play this over Tarkov or Arc Raiders?
Im just not very impressed with the gunplay/engagements I've seen for this game; dont get me wrong some of it looks cool but its not worth moving over and dedicating so much time when even the loot looks very disappointing. I havent seen anyone talk about the look rarity or how it works or if theres a player driven economy where you can buy equipment.

In Tarkov if you run in with a piece of shit double barrel and come out with another PMCs AK-101 that shit feels so fucking good, and I just dont see any of that in this game and I guess I just dont see the reasons why people play hunt, tarkov or arc in this particular game.
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>>734099960
The saddest part is coders used to know to keep your tech on the DL so you could "work" and collect a paycheck while your program does everything for you. These dumb fucks found a golden goose and thought "I know, we'll make billions by commodifying it". Enshitification happens every time The Board gets a whif of what software can actually do, and inevitably misuses it like toddlers with a buzzsaw.
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>>734099713
The colony is completely destroyed, glassed to nothing 3 months after events of Marathon 1, this is told in Marathon 2.

Image is nu-lore where a project to see what the fuck happened is launched. That's the UESC and the rebuilt colony we are exploring now.
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>>734099752
The distress call took 12 years to reach earth
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>already in the top 5 of the steam charts

UHHHHHH DOOMERBROS?????
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>>734099589
>>734099960
"Rules for thee, but none for me"

Sony/Bungie/other corporations can just pay Valve to look the other way and get away with whatever AI trash they want without having to disclose it. And after a few hours with this demo, it is very obvious that AI has been heavily utilized.
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>>734100162
>Legitimately why would you play this over Destiny? Destiny has so much more PvE content.
because i'm not a fag
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>>734098858
>Marathon is a generational colony ship without FTL that takes centuries to get to its destination many lightyears away
>After that some other guys just sort of show up
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>>734086318
We already have Tarkov, idjit.
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where are the glitch lewds?
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>>734100162
You wouldn't. It genuinely has nothing to offer.
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and then another thing
why cant you spawn in as enemy A.I. IE invasion style to get loot without risking your kit?

Just make it so some random hacker hacked into one of the UESC bots and went AWOL
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>>734100564
Sorry for AI summary but there's a lot to get through.
>2794: Original colony (New Cascadia, ~24k people) glassed by Pfhor reinforcements; planet irradiated ruin.
>2795-2797: UESC loses contact, launches Project Goliath—UESC Equanimity (salvage/resue ship) to investigate (96-year trip).
>~2800s-2880s (Implied): Humanity resettles via faster corporate/military fleets (Neural Sinks for clone deployment, incremental waves). Pfhor defeated (~2881 via UESC/S'pht'Kr from trilogy lore); Tau Ceti becomes 30k-person hub (megacorps like MIDA/Traxus/CyberAcme invest).
>~2888-2893: Equanimity arrives (possibly early per some docs); UESC establishes presence (drones patrol ruins, secure sites).
>Recent (pre-2893, e.g., March 13 event?): 30k colonists vanish (no bodies; "chemical/biological attack" hinted, reality anomalies). Marathon wreckage orbits as "ghost ship."
>2893 (Game Start): Runners (mercs) infil; UESC drones active but no humans—they "quarantine/enforce" vs. scavengers, implying disaster hit after arrival (cover-up?)

So we aren't even working on the colony that Marathon built, this is completely new.
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>>734087778
it means a petulant and disobedient child
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Why make it an extraction shooter?

They already had the destiny formula
Just make destiny but with the marathon setting
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>>734100762
There is a scav. It's a shell called Rook that you unlock after completing a couple of runs or missions (not sure which but it wasn't long from when I started playing). It has its own random loadout and you lose nothing of your own if you die as it.
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>>734100601
Sorry I don't want to spend 50% of my playtime in menus and waiting in queue. Tarkov does not respect your time.
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>>734100921
>make it boring pve mmoshit
get filtered
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>>734100939
is it just a basic runner or does it spawn in late raid?
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>>734100921
boring. Destiny isn't going anywhere either so no point int hat.
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>>734100992
No clue
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>>734086318
>titanfall 1 was correctly shit on for being a full priced game that only featured multiplayer
>so much so that it directly negatively affected the sales on 2
>despite the fact that titanfall 2 has an impeccable campaign and nearly everything someone could want in a multiplayer shooter, it never gained the popularity that it truly should have
>the closest thing today is the aidsfest known as apex and titanfall 3 is pretty much considered to be a never ever game
>fast forward a few years and now expensive games with the least amount of content possible, that poorly ape the worst genres possible that cost hundreds of millions -> billions to make are normal
I dont understand how people keep thinking their cheap copy of a game is going to pull such numbers away from the titans in the genres that have religiously attached fanbases that are 10 years deep and have several orders of magnitude better mechanics/content that they can justify spending such money on them.
Anyone who spends money on GaaS shit honestly doesnt deserve to have an opinion on games and at the very least i refuse to listen to them seriously. Its incredible that people get assblasted when you have high expectations for an industry that makes more money than tv/movies/books combined or that the several hundred million dollar project plays worse than shit like battlebit and stalker SoC.
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>>734100992
It come with a basic weapon and a backpack, it cannot complete missions, it has inability which makes npcs ignore you for a short time, and a self healing ability. When you enter a game with it, you are solo entering a game of teams which is already in progress. One I joined only had 10 mins left but it varies
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>>734100978
>lol filtered this game is only for masochists who like visual eye rape art, jank and grind
>Game flops
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>>734100978
>>734101041
But what we have now is just watered down tarkov shit

Basically apex but with no good movement
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>>734100978
I bet you really thought you had something here lmao
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>>734100992
its a scav class...you get a free kit and you spawn at least 10 mins into a map. you are solo vs 3 stacks tho so expect to get shit on if they have thermals
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>>734086318
In what world is marathon brutal
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>>734101109
Interesting that you bring up Titanfall, since playing this game immediately reminded me of the bots that just sit around on multiplayer maps in that. It's shockingly dull.
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>>734086318
I played the beta, and uninstalled at 41 minutes played. I just don't care about extraction shooters.
If this was a single player game, I might be interested, but as it is now? Nah.
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>>734101127
Correct, this game was made for me and me only.
>>734101146
No, It's Tarkov with good level design and camping doesn't win you games against expert players
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>>734089880
The low time to kill it what keeps me from buying it. Abilities, rpg aspects, consumables, mods, etc feel wasted when killing takes a single second with basic weapons.
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>>734101470
Well that's nice and all but for a game that is supposed to be a huge hit rather than something extremely niche for maybe 1000 people worldwide "filtered" is not what the devs want to hear.
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Are all extraction shooters this fucking boring?

It's like all.of these fucking companies just want to recreate Dayz/modded Arma without figuring out what made the moments in those games kino.
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>>734100856
>It's actually a second colony just so they could vaguely reference a Tau Ceti colony and the Marathon ship that they've just left in orbit for a century and a half
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>>734101285
i like those little fellas in titanfall. I dont know how important they are in marathon but its semi important to kill them. Ive played quite a number of games that were lost by a couple of points. If youre a shitter, you can just take those out full time and make an actual difference while getting the dopamine hit of killing something and if you find yourself on the opposite side of the map from where players are, they fill in the gaps of just running around to look for people. BUT, the movement in titanfall 2 is so fucking good that once you git gud enough at it, just navigating the map becomes genuinely fun.
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>>734101470
Game is seriously fucking kino, I'm gonna take my sweet time with it too. I didn't get too much accomplished in 15 hours I was able to play, got all but 2 factions unlocked.
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>>734099294
india has a space program too bucko
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FUCK FUCK FUCK BETA IS ABOUT TO END AND ONLY LVL 26

Its over for me bros
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>>734101685
Titanfall was mid, and this game is terrible. Congrats on missing my point entirely in order to shill.
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>mickey mouse visuals
>no recoil
Trash game.
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>>734101730
crewed launches = 0
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>>734087241
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Marathon needs rape correction?
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>>734101109
Fuck if you put it like that, more than 10 dollars for a single game mode and 3 maps does sound stupid wtf
When did this shit get normalized, even PS2 games had more content. Your post actually opened my eyes anon
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>>734101560
All the ones that aren't Tarkov or Day Z, yeah. You hit the nail on the head. This doesn't have stakes. In their constant attempts at cloning those two games for console players/wider audiences, the AAA industry keeps missing the point that the appeal and loop are intrinsically tied to being extremely difficult and unforgiving games with literally zero safety net. Any attempt to add training wheels or bumpers completely defeats the purpose and renders it a boring, hollow, and pointless experience. Might as well just play Warzone.
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>>734086318
>unforgiving and brutal game
what does that even mean? its a pvp shooter. its only as brutal as any other depending on who you fight
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>even the steam forum is clowning on the game so hard that the entire front page of discussion is fake threads for game key giveaways
Sheeeit
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>>734095503
No one does.
It is a trend pushed by twitch, that sacky games are somewhat skillful, and then all play streamers play with paid hacks.
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>>734102339
B-BUT YOU LOSE EVERYTHING WHEN YOU DIE!!!!!!!1111111
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>>734102090
>shilling a 10 year old game
the way i took it was that the bots in marathon were boring and im not wasting the disk space to donwload the shit even for free to try. the ones in titanfall arent exciting but they are a good example of putting a sprinkle of pve in a pvp based game and just wanted to expand my thoughts on it. Dunno what youre on about otherwise.
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>>734096321
It is funny how much extraction shooters suck compared to The Division, and the Dark Zone was not even the only mode in the game, and even then I could not recommend this game to anyone not willing to bear through 30 hours of piss and shit to get to the good parts.
And that still makes it more friendly than any other game of its genre.
Extraction shooters are literally not fun to casual players, which is the blood of any MP game.
>See that faggot with 1,000 hours in-game
>Not only he has an advantage through mere gameplay experience and map knowledge
>We also gave the fucker better DPS and Armor.
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>>734095503
It's the same kind of heavily rigged, casino-esque dopamine treadmill as modern COD that tricks you into continuing to play because the balance between frustrating matches and fun/successful matches is skewed in such a manipulative way that your brain becomes unwillingly hooked into not stopping. Even when the game itself isn't even particularly good or interesting, like this, it becomes hard to put down due to its carefully engineered methods that tap into the part of your brain that is susceptible to gambling addiction.
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>>734102687
Ubisoft is so fucking unbelievably retarded.
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>>734101560
>Are all extraction shooters this fucking boring?
The gameplay involves either a successful, uneventful raid killing the CPU enemies whose behavior dates the mid 90s to extract shit in order to craft good shit to get better shit, eventually.
The moment other players intervene, either you will mog them or they will mog you and the encounter will last a fraction of a second because you depend on other people not being retarded or the enemy being more retarded than your actual team, and you don't have a proper window of time to respond.
Massive Entertainment did the only ES that was mildly amusing, see above, the rest like DayZ are all about a miserable online experience only mitigated if you can manage to assemble a team outside the game.
It is one of those "Play with Friends" type of games.
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>>734102886
They are.
They screwed Massive which was producing good games. Most veterans left by the time SW Outlaws came around and voiced their complains to Doomcock.
That said, Bungie is not far off.
I can't believe anyone takes them seriously after how they gutted Destiny 2.
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>>734102687
The Division was not a good game, and the Dark Zone was not fun per se, however at least it felt like it had genuine stakes. When you killed another player and got his loot container, and extracted with it, the rewards felt meaningful and exciting. I cared about the guns and gear I was getting. That cannot be said for this. Looting in this feels like opening chests in a Warzone and I couldn't feel less attached to any of the gear I find or bring.
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This has been the least fun I've ever had with a Bungie game. I hope Sony shuts them down quickly.
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>>734102994
Day Z and Tarkov are far, far better than Division's shit lmao. Filtered.
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concord3
fuck destiny and fuck bungie
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Marathon has a big issue

Theres no reason to LARP
Bungie sanded off so many of the edges that the only reasonable interaction in this game is shoot to kill or ineffectively troll

Im not even talking about arc raider dadgamers here
Even something as hardcore as dayz back then had people do things to each other beyond just shooting each other

This is why Marathon feels like a shitty battle royale because thats all it is
The question is if the final pve raid map will remedy that
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>>734103404
>pve raid map
you mean pvp raid map
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>>734103404
>reasonable interaction in this game is shoot to kill

This isnt really a problem. Every shooter that isnt arc raiders works as KOS which simplifies things.
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>spawn in
>location is swarming with high powered UESC
>spend like 10 minutes rotating around while reviving teammates who are downed immediately
>finally kill the mobs and loot purples off of them
>extract zone is on us
>extract
>other team drops in
>manage to make it out
>teammates dont
RIP BOZOS LMAO. I saw someone say just treat it as a roguelike and that's basically what I've been doing.
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I don't see how the "raid-like" experience will be anything more than requiring specific keys/items to enter rooms, standing on plates, and doing some gay shit to trigger a damage phase on a bullet sponge boss.
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>>734103545
Destiny had kino raid fights though
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>>734103404
The most fun I ever had in Day Z was handcuffing other players and force feeding them bleach kek
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>>734093625
Smearing this DOLLS lipstick halfway down her throat
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>how much beter
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>>734103609
This was true before 2023
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>>734103470
>Every shooter that isnt arc raiders works as KOS which simplifies things
Even if it was a shoot on sight game it sucks at that too because you die in 1 second and don't respawn.
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>>734103545
The dick wall from kingsfall would be really good in Destiny.
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confirming blasthaving status: ongoing
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>>734103685
Sorry but skill issue. Dont run around like its cod. Hide, crouch walk, stick near cover. Always be thinking "what do i do rn if i was to get shot at?"
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>>734103735
No it's a shit balance issue.
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>>734103771
True
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>>734103662
They redeemed RoN encounters with the Pantheon versions.
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the ai in this game is pretty dang good
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>>734086318
It may be shit but it's just an alpha tes-
>the release is next week
This game is fucked.
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>>734103885
I'm not a streamer, I have no interest in pantheon. Plus when they first did it, they told me all of the loot was going to be useless in 2 months.
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>>734103913
Mindlessly super ggressive and able to kill you in one hit=/=good
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>>734102249
in any other time period this idea would have gotten laughed out of the room and would be rightfully considered unacceptable. if marathon was f2p, i would be more kind too it but just barely. But the wager to the player is too high for me to say anything other than completely negative things about it and its ilk
>gib us 40$ for this game that doesnt excel at anything and is entirely multiplayer focused
>as the year progresses youll just be drip fed content ASSUMING that the game doesnt just get rugged after not enough people buy it
>rather than having enough engaging content at launch that you wont get bored after a year
keeping in mind that all of this is timed at the feet of several high budget games completely failing to the point of studios being dissolved and a few months after the plagiarism shit while bungie is also going through another plagiarism lawsuit for destiny and the insane failures of that game of literally making paid content unavailable. I maliciously want these games to fail because of how damaging they are to the industry.
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>>734103913
What do they do besides walking up to you and shoot?
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To me, the biggest sins are:
>the PvE just sucks. There aren’t enough enemies, there’s no variety, and they aren’t difficult to kill whatsoever.
>the menus and loot are too much of a headache to manage. Quality over quantity. Less and more meaningful loot spread across fewer players instead of all over the place would have been better.
>the the contracts suck. Were asked to do shit like break glass 20 times or hack a computer which just involves pressing X on it. Where are the interesting objectives? Things like having to take down certain bosses, or surviving firefights, or planting a bomb in a heavily guarded area, or stealing a large power supply from a heavy guarded area.
All I’m saying is for a PvE game, the vE part sucks dick, so all there is to do is just kill other players and I’m better off doing that in a solely PvP game.
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>>734103568
how does the inside of the building have anti soul gas? The hands look like the character is wearing arm length oven mits and the entire "sqround" aesthetic of the environment just feels like complete corposlop. what an ugly fucking game.
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>>734086318
>unforgiving and brutal
Meh, but what is the reward for it? Loot is largely meaningless, and while the combat is fun it's not as good as destiny with even worse guns. If the actual game doesn't have anything special, I'm just going to think it's kind of neato without much going on with it. Bungie has always been rather shit at balancing PvP though, so why they wanted an extraction shooter is beyond me. The PvE isn't particularly balanced either, the boss infiltrator is tanky as hell and enemies having aimbot is simply not very fun
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>>734103913
better than destiny, dumber than halo 3 brutes. sadly that already makes them above average in this industry.
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>>734093625
This game is easy to play though
>Play el assessino spanishman
>take out knife with my knife fight (tm) and fast hands (tm) upgrades and my Arachne (r) patented bigger knife attack and I just run at some dude invis and light + heavy melee like some CSGO spook and instantly kill him at full shields. It's a bit silly, and I wish we had Sakeguchi Gen to play around with as they seem the coolest faction.
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>>734098775
lmao you really triggered the zoomers with this.
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>>734104315
Vault space being gridbased is gay as fuck too, don't forget. Machine Guns kind of blow for how large they are, AR's are also pretty dogshit. Meanwhile the 4 space magnum two shots to the head relatively fast just like in Halo
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>gonna lack the actual interesting raid shit behind insufferable amounts of grinding and extraction shooter nonsense

LMAO
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>>734104315
One's using a healing item 3 times which you can do as soon as you spawn in. This game needs a tutorial that actually explains shit that aren't basic FPS features everyone already knows and actual quest design
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>>734086318
So unforgiving and brutal that people can revive your lootbox in an extraction shooter
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>>734090626
>co-op like Helldivers.
Of course you do, robloxnigger.
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>>734104530
The Titan-looking mofo is ugly, but the game's 3D printed redditopia aesthetic kind of grew on me. I play the Assassin though so I never notice bulky gloves
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>>734104541
Pretty much, all the raid and hidden community mechanics will be hidden by
>rng
>extraction shooter nonsense
>le grind
>enemy players being dicks
>terrible bungie guidance as per usual
>instakilling you without purple shields or a full squad
It's somewhat a what were they thinking tier, when all this effort could have been spent on a making a Marathon D2-like or just a single player game
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>>734104134
>in any other time period this idea would have gotten laughed out of the room and would be rightfully considered unacceptable.
Agree.
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>>734104717
I would have bought a new proper Marathon game day one. The real Bungie is long, long gone and it's sad.
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>>734093625
They said that about Highguard as well.
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>one guy camping the last extract on top of a roof
>cant even sneak up on him because of the single ladder up
>die trying to push him
bruh
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Why is the TTK so high in this game?
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I think it can't be overstated enough that ONI, this game's version of Cortana/Ghost, is basically as cringe and annoying as Vee in nu-Skate.
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>>734103169
The division did shape up to be a good game in the end but when I say you have to endure 30 hours of piss and shit, I am not exaggerating.
The campaign is piss, and playing the Dark Zone of the first time will tell your body to never try that shit again.
However...
For people like me who are affected by the sunken cost fallacy, the game did improve over time.
Incursions made PVE not only relevant but fun. Teamwork, Gear and Roles were important.
The APC mission and Stolen Signal were impossible without a good team for how hard they were, they were honestly incredibly fun. They also had the best spectacle.
The Underground and The Pier were kind of samey but they gave you something to do if you never wanted to deal with the Dark Zone ever again. I liked them, however, the Underground only had so many set pieces so it was not like a good roguelite mode, and the Pier was fun as an arcade game. At least the game had proper gameplay now.
Survival was the best BR mode ever.
Last Stand should had shipped with the game since it was a real PVP mode of 8 vs 8, which is something Marathon needs, anything but just Extraction.
The Dark Zone is a troll's paradise.
The amount of dickery it enabled was unmatched, as it rewards the very worst people. It also had my favorite piece of environmental story telling in a game.

Absolutely NONE of this made it to the sequel.
To this day I haven't muster the strength to return to the sequel because it was so disappointing.
Maybe the Brooklyn expansion saves it. Who knows. It TDV2 joins Resident Evil 6 in the games my brain absolutely refuses to play.
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>>734105021
Low*
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been running entirely solo with mixed results, how is playing random fill? Should i bring my best kit or something a little better than the free kits?
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>>734105138
>The division did shape up to be a good game in the end

I'm not reading the rest of your post, but this simply isn't true. I played the game into endgame because I had friends that didn't want to play anything else at the time, and at no point did I ever consider it as good as Destiny or Day Z.
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>>734103259
I never played Tarkov, so I will take your word for it but DayZ sucks ass.
Even more so than the Division.
I know you are buck broken zoomie with no real opinions but even you have to admit DayZ is less than a mod than was elevated to a full game status.
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>>734105184
i've done nothing but fills. i bring my best kits every time.
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>>734105184
I did one run with two randoms and it was both super boring and super easy. Let's just say there aren't really enough enemies to go around. I had 3 kills. One guy had 4, and the other had 9. And that was every enemy, including another team, that we saw in the map. It felt genuinely trivial. The map is too small and the enemies usually too few for playing it non-solo.
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>>734103404
>Bungie sanded off so many of the edges that the only reasonable interaction in this game is shoot to kill or ineffectively troll
Yeah.
With TTK being as short as a second, there is not much to say about this.
You don't have to way to signal your intent to other players and there is only like one additional crew anyways. You have no reason not to kill them, it is not like the NPC pose a threat anyways.
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>>734105246
Obvious console player spotted. Opinion discarded. Day Z on PC, especially with mods, is an incredible game and pathetically casual garbage like The Division does not compare or match it in any way.
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>>734105229
In the end means like a year or so after launch, I think the incursions happened like 2018 maybe? I believe. The game was still getting updates despite TDV2 launch.
If you already have it, the free patches were better than the paid season content.
But I won't judge you. I felt the same with the sequel.
Massive knew how to make a good game and reverted to Ubisoft patented stink.
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I bought the game to shitpost here like a week before the demo, for the last 3 fucking days I've had my refund request gone with no answer. 3 days, steam what the fuck? Does this mean people are refunding like crazy
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The environments and aesthetic of this game is literally just "unfinished placeholder texture" from the map maker in Counter Strike Source scattered around a brown mud field filled with anti-soul gas. It's unbearably stupid to look at it.
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>>734105440
It is?
I played it like for a week, and thought it was gay, but I mean it is already here.
Tell me more anon.
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Fuck me is solo queueing meant to be this fucking unfun? You're just getting ganked by bots only to get one tapped by some fuck. What is the appeal here?
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>>734105405
How many total runners are in a lobby? Like 9?
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>>734105547
You tried to outjew the jew, anon.
But I am guessing it won't go through until launch day maybe.
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The lore and visuals of the game are neat, but the game itself sucks. Feels like a slightly better or worse battlefield 2042 hazard zone. Might pick it up on sale but will probably just play the original marathon games instead.
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>>734105629
Was that week you played it in back in 2014? Because the game has been finished and good for a long time now and is not much like busted mess it was back when it was early access anymore. That said, I'd never play it solo. It's incredibly fun with a group of friends on modded servers that let you build bases.
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>>734105730
Yeah that's what I am thinking, not until launch so I guess I'll count as a day 1 purchase on top of a preorder stat. No matter the stats I think Bungie is getting beheaded for this over at Sony.

What a shit game, I seriously can't believe they released this.
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>>734105729
I'm not sure it's even that many. I somehow killed 4 people in my last solo run because they all came to the same spot I was at for some mission. And then never saw or heard signs of anyone else in the match the rest of the time I spent crossing to an extraction site.
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>>734105729
I never found a game with more than 6 players simultaneously, but I remember a match where I was struggling to get an Exfill, so I am guessing 9 is correct as I watched two exfills points disappear at the same time.
This is going to be an abrupt change in the discussion but I feel that now that modern gaming has outlawed voice comms, it makes games like this less fun. Voice comms and shit talking were a large part of Halo, and now it is all gone under the threat that your game will be stolen.
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Bungie made a game with a high concept sci fi lore and aesthetic only to make the gameplay literally consist of modern day shooting and the most generic procgen feeling maps ive played in a good while. You cant go into the "cool" building on dire. You want to? Be happy you get the 2 levels of literal warehouse design.


Even better,manage to draw people to the sci fi, aesthetic and cyborg/ai themes? Cater your game to pvpfags who never read lore, skip cutscenes and only care about sweating.

If the raid is like that, the game is dead with the audience who would care about it. did bungie think pvpfags, twitch, ninja and people like him are gonna care about the ship, or durandal? Lmao
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>>734105795
>Was that week you played it in back in 2014?
Yeah, that is a good guess, yes.
But like is there more to the game, or is it just roam around around and get a jump on people?
I feel 7 Days was better and I still hate 7 Days because it was a mash of popular things that never felt good.
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>>734086318
it's way easier than cod dmz where you get two shotted by random soldier ai
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>>734105021
Because it's like that in other extraction shooters which are modded milsims even though it doesn't suit this game which is not a modded milsim.
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>>734087778
like 2 years ago there was some aesthetic that was being shilled to roasties to sell them more clothes or whatever, and the whole thing was being called "brat" and sold as a yaas girl, you are so rebel and unique type shit. It was cringe and it killed kamala's campaign.
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>game says 2 minutes left
>blah blah blah I know theres a final extraction cause it's an extraction game
>timer hits zero
>final extract is at the complete other side of the map
>you only get a minute to get there so it's literally impossible with the stamina bullshit
>die and lose all my shit and i'm only a little past halfway to the extract
insane how awful this game is
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>>734106027
Yes, there is more to it than that nowadays. It's still a survival game built off the original ARMA 2 mod at the end of the day, but it has missions and things to work towards. And there are lot of modded servers with very different stuff added to them too, like I said. But if all you're looking for is casual generic AAA game dopamine hit shit like this, then no.
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>>734105991
that image is the first time I've seen this game's aesthetic look cool, wtf happened to the actual ingame visuals?
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>>734105991
I also noticed that. and that was my first impression.
As if Bungie wanted to make a proper game, but Sony stepped in because they are betting hard on Concords.
We are witnessing the total collapse of the AAA industry because games can only give back so much revenue, but investors demand higher yields in return. Investors demand that videogames become gambling dens, and there is no turning back to the previous model because investors won't allow it.
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>>734105991
>Have a bunch of old environment art from the previous games they could have fully realized that could have made for unique and fun places to loot
>Nah fuck that put some purple trailers in a featureless plain
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>>734086610
>#TransFrights
Is this a thing? If not, why not?
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>>734086318
You've convinced me, tomorrow night I'll download it and base my purchase decision entirely on how smooth my experience playing it is.
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>>734106154
I hate the movement speed and stamina thing too. Feels bad and restrictive to play. I don't care what anyone says, Destiny 2 despite its issues, feels very good to play. Movement and shooting are smooth and responsive on that. Not so much in this though. Bungie has fallen far indeed.
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>>734106154
You don't have to wait for the timer to run out until you extract you just go to one of the lime green arrows on your map. If you wait until you literally run out of time and you're not already at least on the way to the extraction point you're basically fucked.
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>>734106290
the server slam ends in 12 hours
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>>734086318
>running around for 30 minutes most of it looting with nothing happening, sometimes shooting some brain dead robots rarely finding an enemy team if youre lucky and extract over and over again
this shit boring as fuck
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playing with console players is sooo bad
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>>734106320
hey bungie shill, the final extract is a random point on the map that only shows up once the timer hits zero. i know you dont know that cause you dont know shit about extraction shooters which is why the game is designed like it is right now
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>>734106337
that's right, for every hour of fun gameplay I get starting in 20 hours, I'm putting $10 towards buying it.
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>>734106405
No it isn't. You can extract early.
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>>734106373
why are you running around for 30 minutes? are you that slow? complete your mission and leave, idiot.
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>>734106220
Bungie has, or contracts, very good concept artists. The hack developers then take that cool art and do the absolute bare minimum, most wasted opportunity games possible with it. Same thing happened with Destiny. I love the concept art for that game to this day, but the games themselves never lived up to the imagination on display there.
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>>734106434
oh wow youre an esl too. im not extracting early, i'm extracting at the final extract, which is why a final extract is a thing in extraction shooters
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>>734106373
Exploring is kind of the only thing interesting about the game. Once I gave up on the shitty questing and wondered around, I more fun. But it's still mid af
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>>734106463
Extracting from the run as in finishing your run retardo.
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>>734106490
youre unironically retarded
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>>734106185
I am not sure what I am looking for, as for zombie games I still return to L4D2 because it feels zombie games peaked around DR2 and L4D2.
I understand that Dayz was more about the social experience, but I don't know how the game looks now. Like maybe now there is a mode where I have to beeline to an exfill under a time limit, so alliances are necessary but resources become scarcer as you approach the end forcing PVP encounters.
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>>734106443
you'd be doing that not for 30 minutes but for the entire time you're playing the game outside of the vault screen
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>>734106516
>I wait until they very last second to extract and am surprised that it's difficult to reach
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>>734106467
What are you exploring? Warehouse 1 or warehouse 2? Warehouse 3 thats yellow or warehouse 4 thats green?

Random office buildings in perimeter or random office buildings in dire marsh? Tunnel x, y, z, etc. or tick area 1 and tick area 2?

The only, ONLY, good and interesting place I found in the entire game is this place.
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>years of unreal engine slop games that all look the same and people buy them again and again
>something fresh arrives and gets pooped on for it's artstyle
gaming is dead.
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>>734106538
not sure what you mean. i get in and get out in 15-20 minutes
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>>734106559
it's not difficult at all, it's impossible which is the point. no other extraction game is like this, theyre all designed with actual thought so this never ever happens.
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>>734106467
exploring what though? its just a generic battle royale map except more boring cause you dont win you just leave
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>>734106609
A fresh turd is still a turd
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>>734106609
Oh fuck off, read this.
>>734105991
They fucked themselves, no one else to blame. People are interested in the aesthetic, people are not into the extraction shooter genre. The server slam ended up driving a lot of people away.
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>>734106609
The engine doesn't determine if the game is fresh or not. Marathon is just Tarkov but gayer and on consoles.
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>>734106625
Try extracting earlier retard.
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>>734106536
Sounds to me like you want PUBG or Battlefield Redsec/COD Warzone.
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>>734106609
No one is hating on the game. Fat people who play of call of duty or arc asset swap raiders don't count as people. They're just incels.
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>some runs see nobody
>other run im running into every enemy until one of them gets the advantage and i lose
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>The "Server Slam" was a complete failure and Marathon will flop
KEK
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Sorry but im not praising this """artstyle"""
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>>734106609
It's not fresh at all. It's literally just a battle royale mod of Destiny 2, with a hideous and stupid looking art style that is half Tron-ripoff and half pic related. Aka, laziness being passed off as an artistic choice. Come on now.
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i dont know anything about marathon but the lore seems interesting, thats the only thing good about it, the game is dog shit, i dont feel bad for bungie, fuck them
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>>734106765
Why did they intentionally cut off her thighs? They're like 40% smaller than the rest of her legs.
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>>734106794
I lost my shit when I saw that gun with the source missing texture lol
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>>734106765
Chudemaxxing...
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>>734106765
Her posture is even worse than mine, lmao.
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>>734106765
The character models are truly bad. And the game looks oddly like Minecraft or Roblox in practice. I wasn't expecting it to be so blocky and cartoonish based on screenshots and trailers, but playing it reminds me of how Battlebit looked.
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>>734106812
PLay the originals...
>>734106734
shes dating a mexican dude though...
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>>734106881
>shes dating a mexican dude though...
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>>734106880
>>734106765
Some interiors of the game look nice but is it just me or does almost all of the natural terrain/trees look fucking last gen?
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>>734106881
i dont like boomer shooters, the whole setting would be better as an rpg
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>>734106665
>People are interested in the aesthetic, people are not into the extraction shooter genre
Going with both of these at the same time was not a recipe for success. The people who like extraction shooters are going to be put off by the niche tripped out aesthetic, people who like the aesthetic are going to be put off by it being an extraction shooter, both are going to be put off by the game itself being a half finished jankfest, people who do not have either of these mental illnesses are going to be put off by all 3. You are left with a tiny pool of people who actually like playing your game.

They could have made a game with this tripped out aesthetic but paired it with a game type that is more normal and got away with it or they could have made an extraction shooter with a more appealing art style and got a way with it but not both at once then compounded by the game looking and playing like a half finished mess.
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>>734106601
On perimeter, there are tunnels that go under the map. That's one of the things I found
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>>734106674
God no.
I tried them and they are fucking dogshit.
>PUBG
Nihao niggers.
>BF
$100 shekels for a worse version of BF4 only to play a shitty mode that should had been canned at the start of this decade
>Warzone
That one Halloween event before MW3 launch was fun but any other day, I don't even know from which angle I want to approach this.
The movement is shit, guns are terrible, it feels like a game meant for niggers as it is all about looting. Team based so you know how that goes (Your teammates are lobotomized, the enemy team is psychically linked) and no one uses a mic and all I remember is the sound of mexican teenagers approaching through the proximity voice chat.

Again, it is not like I hold the Division as a great game, but you understand where I come from.
As for COD, playing Rust 24/7 is as fun as ever but the devs cannot hide how much they want these series to end.
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>>734106926
Yes. I agree. The textures, models, details etc look bad. Especially outside of the buildings when there's no LE MOODY CYBERPUNK LIGHTING to hide it. The draw distance is also terrible, which they hide in gallons of anti-soul gas.
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>>734106881
That mexican dude is a bisexual wigger. They're not dating. Most of her friends are gay.
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>>734086318
I simply don't understand how to derive enjoyment out of this. It's not "bad" any way but I feel no desire to keep going after exfiltrating once.
Like what's the goal?
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>>734106668
you're unironically a retard. i feel so bad for anyone who has to talk to you in real life if there are even people who do
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>>734106765
Reminds me of cruelty squad in the sense that it is a big fugly mess but I feel cruelty squad is less cluttered.
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>>734107010
>which they hide in gallons of anti-soul gas

This has been a major issue since the first playtest
All thosr striking colors washed out in grey mush
Which is why the mirrors edge or wipeout comparison were so dumb
They ddint slather everything in gas
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>>734107035
stop the cope bro....magachuds ahve no cool cultural icon its ok to cry baby its okay to cry
OPERATION EPIC BACON has no cool girls in it...
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>>734107000
Well, you're the one who literally word for word described wanting to play a battle royale. I just suggested the main three that you are now complaining about. Maybe it's time for you to try Tarkov since you said you've never played it?
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>>734107161
What the fuck is operation epic bacon? I'm not a chud; I'm a leftist liberal like Alysa.
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this whole battle royale / extraction shooter is just over saturated and this is just another one in the pile, theres no reason to play it over any other even if youre the sort of monkey not sick of them already
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>>734107273
It looks the coolest

And bungie gas vest in class gunplay
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So sad about this game they killed my marathon for this slop.
Security guy isn't in this shit, gave it a try. Only good looking shell is rook. Gameplay is boring.

Shooters have stagnated beyond recognition. I am tired of BR and streamerbait genres
>>734107228
Nah bro im too politicalpoisoned and online then. The army is now naming operations like cringy redditors lmao
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>>734106765
Why is it posing like a monkey?
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Trannycoded and satanic game. Shan't be playing.
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>>734086318
The cutscenes are the only cool thing about this game, everything else is generic at best.
The movement in particular feels like a downgrade from D2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U19fmbfWUds
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>>734107309
>it looks the coolest
No it doesn't
>best in class gunplay
Lmao, surely you're joking. This feels like shit to play.
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why does so much money and work go into making generic trend following slop doomed to die from the onset instead of making real games
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>>734107442
Ask Capcom
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pog so cool that people basically won the lobby if the exfil spawns at their location because they can just afk kill anyone who shows up, very cool.
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I played this shit all weekend and it was fucking gay as fuck, only faggots are going to buy this shit game.
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Marathon deserved better than this shit. At least a Doom 2016 clone. Fuck Bungie, I hope Sony kills them.
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>>734108071
I played off and on throughout the weekend, and I feel like I've had my fill. It was ok, but I get the impression I've basically seen and done everything the game has to offer already.
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>>734105970
From my experience the most amount of corpses I've found in my 3-man was about 5, so yeah, it is low. Insane that hunt has similar maps at 12 players and soon to be 15 or Tarkov's 20-ish
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>>734108126
Agreed. This franchise deserved so much better. It's like what Bethesda and Arkane did to Prey all over again.
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>>734106220
>>734106461
2nding this, the *actual* art director at bungie and the concept artists are actually VERY skilled and usually produce art much better than anything seen in bungie. The real problem comes from the Tiger Engine they've been reusing being like 3 decades old and Bungie's general unwillingness to overdeliver anymore (Train Stations guy is one of the head honchos now btw)

it's a fucking joke is what it is, Destiny and now Marathon is going to be a game that is better in concept (lore, symbolism, concept art, puzzle elements) than they are in execution
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I have no idea how Bungie is planning to incorporate all the meta elements they wanted like hidden secrets that open shit up for other players with maps like these and essentially almost no mystery or atmosphere to the actual design
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>>734108260
It's even sadder because while Destiny isn't a complex game or necessarily living up to its potential, it is a fun and solid shooter overall. It feels nice to play. Marathon isn't though. It does not feel very good to actually play, the gunplay is mediocre and the inventory system is majorly clunky.
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>>734107169
Ok.
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>>734086318
I like it but I'm not sure I will purchase it. I really don't want to spend 75% of my time sneaking around or looting boxes or generally NOT fighting other players. Same reason I can not into battle royales.
It's sad because the story looks really cool and it has a great aesthetic that is completely wasted on a game that probably isn't going to be that popular. Meanwhile there is an apparently endless drought of fun singleplayer FPS like Halo, Bioshock, or Half Life where this kind of art direction would be really cool. What the fuck happened to games like those
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>>734108521
Yeah, this game would have done way better if it was akin to cyberpunk 2077
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>>734108521
Only chance I would have continued playing this game is if it were free. This should have been a proper single player revival of the Marathon franchise instead of a battle royale/extraction shooter wearing its name like a skinsuit.
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>>734100921
i don't love extraction shooters but destiny was so fucking boring. just make it like halo, the only good thing this shitty company has ever made
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>>734108434
I just melee spam and if I can't get kills I accept it's over for me
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>>734108521
If they can fix the balances issues I think the game could be at least fun to play but the balance is nowhere near there.
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>>734108126
NuMarathon is just bungie and sony spitting in your face if you enjoyed the old games.
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>>734099589
>Steam said you have to disclose AI use
Not exactly. You only had to disclose AI use if your game was using some kind of live AI generation, like having NPCs who got their lines from ChatGPT live as you played through internet queries the game would make on its own. If you use AI to generate static elements (art, music, whatever), you don't have to disclose anything.
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>>734100373
But it never hit the #1 or #2 spot, I don't think? Even Veilguard and Avowed managed to do that. And they still flopped, shillbro.
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>>734102365
What was that other flop game where the devs were giving away keys out of desperation? I want to say it was Concord devs on Twitter, right?
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>>734106398
What? Crossplay? Wouldn't console players get raped 99.9% of the time by someone on a mouse in a low TTK shooter like this?
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>>734106914
What is he thinking right now after seeing the bad numbers all weekend?
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>>734091320
>as the year progresses

ah so next year you gotta buy it again lmao, they hope to do "le expansions" like destiny lmfao, I hope they all die
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>>734110657
I don't see Marathon making it to year two, desu



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