Why does Project Cyrodiil always make me want to make a thief character everytime?
>>734142392Because there's a lot of good shit to steal
The fox is a sneaky thief. The lion rapes and takes. Be the lion. Be Unarmed Heavy Armor.
>>734142392Because the Imperials are sneaky jews, their racial trait in Skyrim is literally to be able to sniff out coins better like a bloodhound with their comically large nose.
Is it worth trying PC and TR now or should I wait another 10 years
>>734143791Just play it anon. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed and there's so much content in there already, more than the main game at this point. I'd wait until Poison Song at the latest.
>>734143791It's a fool's errand to wait it to be "finished", it's designed for multiple playthrough.
>>734142392the arenthian is cool
>>734143791Wait for Poison Song or Sutch or Markarth Side to get released first or you'll miss out. This is the worst time to start.
>>734145631Nice bait, retard.
>>734143791 There's already enough content for several hundreds of hours, like the one anon said at latest I would wait for Poison Song, but that may still be half a year away. To give you an idea of the scale I've been playing almost 50 hours starting in Old Ebonheart and working my way south and I still havent made it to Narsis yet.
>>734145631Why is this the worst time to start? I just started it and I'm loving it.
>>734147027It's not a bad time but your save might get bricked if one those drops and you decide to update in the middle of your playthrough. It's not a big problem, those updates are some ways off still and you can just not update until you're ready to do so.
Why are they dragging their feet on Almalexia?
>>734147027Because at any moment the next release could be out and there goes your playthrough if you want to update.
>>734148462It's not like it upgrades automatically
>>734147027It's too late, people are just afk and waiting for Poison Song nowYou won't find any groups for the endgame Hlaalu Vault raids unfortunately
So when will the next Project Tamriel update drop? There hasn't been any update on their site since 2024
>>734149045Sucks to suck, Nelgirion in particular is unbeatable without a good group.
I noticed that the PTR Argonia region map somebody posted last thread was outdated as hell so here's the new one if anyone cares
>>734149360had to take a double take on that name
>>734149360>morrowind not even finished after 20 years or soYeah, we're never seeing this. We might get to play one or two areas, but not more.
>>734148429Because it almost killed the project once, but they're not that apprehensive anymore after the success of Narsis so we might see it sooner rather than later
>>734149540Pretty sure it's mostly different people handling TR and PTAnd the High Rock and Hammerfell PT projects are unironically bigger obstacles on the way of an Argonia project becoming a thing than TR is since they have a weird self-imposed rule of "no new PT projects until both High Rock and Hammerfell have released something"Thay being said the assets they made for Black Marsh in 5+ years of antecedence are already pretty neat
>>734149782The modders are all gonna get too old to keep working on this shit. I doubt we're even gonna see the whole of Skyrim.
>>734149360Where do the focks people live?
>>734150896They live(d) around Lilmoth, the city they're named after. They don't anymore because they all fucking died when the lizards bioengineered the big scary flu
>>734148429Almalexia is one of the top 5 cities on the continent in size, they want it to be a grand and beautiful display of high Dunmer culture while also being fuckhuge without deleting your FPS. It's more or less the crown jewel of Morrowind, so they have to really put their hearts into it.
>>734151041They look so fucking kino. I can't believe their only in-lore purpose was to die by Knahaten flu... But hey maybe they've left some architectural legacy behind. Maybe we'll see their dungeons.
>>734151448You can have an entire playthrough just in Anvil alone and that one isn't even in top 10 biggest cities in the Empire. Almalexia+Tribunal will surely feel like an entire video game in just one city.
>>734149360Yeah I posted the old version, mainly because you can only get more recent maps by going onto their discord and I am never going to join fucking discord.
>>734147319Wait so now all the Indoril lands except for Almalexia will be available? They are seriously underwhelming if we exclude the Temple.
>>734151635The area around it is also supposed to be really beautiful once they're done remaking it so I imagine a lot of will be spending a lot of time there. But yeah I can only imagine you'll get a similar experience in Wayrest (though a good Wayrest questline should involve a lot sailing and piracy,) Alinor, or Senchal.
>>734151724Indoril pretty much committed suicide over the Armistice, all the land west to the river was originally theirs, including Old Ebonheart. Then they did seppuku rather than accept Imperial rule, allowing the Imperials to take their second biggest city and for the Hlaalu to swoop in and slowly pick away at the rest of their territory. Only controlling the capital and biggest city (Almalexia) and de facto running the Temple has kept them from oblivion.
>>734152057Isn't Almalexia in PTR lore barely an Indoril city nowadays after the imperial puppet royal family kicked the Indoril lord out of his palace
>>734152057Armistice was 400 years ago. Surely their kids would have taken over by now.>>734152353Aren't the royal family Hlaalus who've just returned from Wayrest? Sounds ultra pozzed to me.
>>734152617>Surely their kids would have taken over by now.They have, but that doesn't get them Old Ebonheart back since the Imperials have claimed it as their administrative center. It also doesn't stop the Hlaalu in bed with the Imperials from continuing to use their superior position to carve the up. The TR questline for Indoril is supposed to be about recovering from this slow death spiral and rebuilding the House's fortunes.
>>734152730What's the revamped Telvanni questline going to be about?
>>734152823I don't know if they've even gotten far enough to decide on that.
>>734149360So how are they going to enforce Murkwood being poisonous to non-Argonians? Will touching the water afflict you with a poison effect?
>>734152823Doing a bunch of stuff for the different Telvanni councils and then hunting down the disappeared Rilvin Dralhttps://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/forum/future-telvannis-questline-structure-proposal
>>734153072I'd guess it will probably be some red mountain-esque end game area with high level enemies that all give you disease the second they touch you
>>734153512Finally those resist common disease buffs half the races have will become useful
>>734149360Is Murkwood the latest Arena main quest dungeon of them all? All the other provinces get some cool ancient ruins or magic building while Black Marsh just gets a particularly stinky swamp that has to be treated as a whole region rather than a dungeon
>>734153708>latest*lamest
>>734153708There's a ton of cool ancient ruins, Lilmoth and Archon themselves basically are, and Benthic Yobesh contains them in addition to being freaky in general. There's a lot more Ayleid, Velothi, Kothringi, and Lilmoth ruins everywhere in general, from back before the lizards took over the province and ruined it.
>>734153864Murkwood will have no ruins from ancient races though, only lizard villages and Helstrom, the biggest lizard village of them all
>wants to make a mod that will finally solve morrowind's combat forever>get hardfiltered but OpenMW lua animation scripting>give upit's over
>>734154006So? Why does it have to be the Arena dungeon in particular? It's based on the Morrowind-era lore that the lizards were mainly from the inner swamp before they killed everyone else in the province and don't build permanent structures. They use the history of other, settled races living there to justify ruins instead.
>>734153864>ArchonPTR went the same path as Beyond Skyrim and now has Archon be an 100% Argonian-built city like Helstrom, with the concept of it being founded by the Cantemiric Velothi as stated in old planning (still found in their wiki) now being an in-universe racist myth according to the latest Argonia lore doc
>>734154195Yeah and that's really stupid, let's be honest. You don't have an entire race who have never built a stone city suddenly manifest one out of the aether while the rest of the race remains unchanged. The cultural transformation that would lead to a place like Archon being built by Argonians would have rippled out all across the region, but especially in the surrounding area, there would tons of similar but smaller settled sites surrounding it and their technology would've permeated to other Argonian tribes who would in their own turn make cities.
>>734153187Sounds inspired by the Oblivion main quest.
>>734154362>who would in their own turn make cities.Argonians apparently do build Mississippian-style cities without stone architecture on a semi-regular basis in PTR lore. Even setting aside Helstrom, shit like Tsonac and Aroxhu seem here >>734154006 are also described as cities on the planning docs.
>>734154851Aroxu is more like a Peublo cliff town, they build caves into the weirdo mesas of their region with some clay and wood support structures. Tsonac is a wooden city though, but it's also specifically noted to be a new thing, that whole culture sprung up in response to the Dres and particularly the Arnessian War. A better example would be the Euxis, who build cities and have for a long time, but have a weird cultural practice of abandoning them when their leader dies. Either way, when I'm talking about 'cities' I don't mean settled dwelling places in general. I mean highly advanced cities made of carved stone and megalithic construction. A Teonochitlan and not a Cahokia. The point I'm making is that if Archon is 100% native Argonian, their cultural innovations should've rippled out from there and created a whole cultural complex and inspired others to advanced further, but it hasn't.
>>734156654Who's the big guy?
>>734157427me
>>734149782Gut feeling numbers are 80% of PT modders also working on TR, 50% of TR modders also working on PT. It's basically the same people.
>>734157427Boethiah of course> Ayem came first to the village of the netchimen, and her shadow was that of Boethiah, who was the Prince of Plots, and things unknown and known would fold themselves around her until they were like stars or the messages of stars.
>>734157904Argonia assets in particular, and the province lore doc, is known to be worked on by TR guys. It's pretty likely that around when Morrowind is wrapping up most of these guys are going to go to Argonia, with the rest going to the other PT projects (just going off of impressions, mostly Skyrim and Padomaic Isles.)
>>734152057If Old Ebonheart used to be Indoril land, how come it has no trace of Indoril architecture?
>>734158008>AyemYou know Vivec gets all the hate for the Foul Murder but Almalexia is the worst of the three for sure. She doesn't even have the flimsy excuse of an obsessive crush being spurned like Vivec, nor does she feel guilty about it like Sotha Sil, and at least Vehk does help you beat Dagoth Ur and is implied to be trying to teach you CHIM (let's ignore him getting his way in c0da and turning into Nerevar's wife while achieving Amaranth.) Nah she's just paranoid, backstabbing, and egotistical through and through.
>>734158317The Indoril lords burned all of it and did a ritual to literally send what remained of it to Oblivion
>>734158317Ring the bells right and you might just find a concrete answer for that.
>>734158331Yeah, as Vivec says she is active and clawed like a nix hound. You kinda gotta respect it, she wanted power and took it. No "woe is me" like Sotha Sil or "god me and mortal me are totall different" like Vivec. Very fitting with her being the warrior and Boethia aspect of ALMSIVI.
>>734158765If only Nerevar had dodged that engagement.
>>734160240Well, it was necessary for his plan. He was marrying upwards after all.
>>734142392
>>734160347Then he should've seen the obvious that the power-hungry backstabber was going to go for him eventually and taken her out first.
>>734143791They're both good to go alreadyTR has been good for ages, every new release is an expansion rather than an update
>>734143791Depends on your character, really. They released a massive Hlaalu expansion with their capital city just now so if you want to do a dickass rogue it's the best time for that
>>734160417He simply got outplayed, if your entire inner circle made of your most trusted turns on you there's nothing you can really do
>>734160890>if your entire inner circle made of your most trusted turns on youNot Sul, he stayed true in all permutations of Red Mountain. Nerevar's only real friend.
>>734160890I know the metaphysical benefit of taking his feet, but since Almalexia didn't want or expect Nerevar to come back in any form, you have to wonder for what freaky personal reason she wanted his feet.
>>734161226Mod that adds Nerevar's feet to Almalexia's quarters where?
>>734160973It's interesting how Sul is never really mentioned anywhere in the game except the Nord account of Red Mountain. Makes sense the tribunal would try to erase him from history and he'd only survive in foreign accounts but you'd expect the ashlanders would mention him at some point, but no. I know the TR epilogue atleast involves him and the wraithmail.
>>734161226Little known fact but she was a footfag
>>734161376The original conception of the main quest involved collecting the rings to make Wraithmail and the ghost of Sul speaking to you, sadly that got cut though. TR doesn't let you do anything with the rings unfortunately.>>734161440>Hate your husband and cheat on him at every opportunity>Backstab him for power because you have no morals>Still obsessed with his feet and cut them off to keep under your bed
>Hnnnh. Kyne and Mara and Dibella and sixteen Daedric elements: all contributed to the snake-faced queen when she touched the drum. Their sum? A Beauty Cala as none have seen. Cala! Wetness of Kingdom!
>>734161606How does the song go? "Pretty little woman ain't got no soul?"
>>734158008This art of Boethiah reminds me, I feel like the Japanese-inspired elements of Dunmer aesthetics go a bit underutilized, even in TR.
>>734160373he was based
>>734164339>WasAnon, what did you do?
>>734164409You do a lot of things in pursuit of a daedric artifact.
Who is the Morrowind NEET girl meme supposed to be?
>>734164949Azura.
>>734149609That's a cool idea to integrate the base expansion's cityspace, any vids or notes around about the challenges the team face with it?
>>734164949me
>>734165995I think the current plan has changed actually, they finally gave up on preserving base Tribunal's worldspace and are going to scatter and integrate it throughout a completely redone Almalexia.
>Your friendship is a solace to me in these evil days of falsehoods and strife
>>734167728I wonder if we'll have fun little Imga cities in Valenwood.
What are the thoughts on the proposal of introducing Hahd & Nahd from Pocket Guide 2 into the greater TR/PT world as a thieves guild style faction that's less about breaking the law and stealing shit and more using espionage for gnostic anticshttps://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1P-cGI6Ad9UG0EveEtM-Xm6V2bSMU0ucfDvw3_f96wdM/mobilebasicIt seems to be focused in Hammerfell, Colovia+Imperial City, and High Rock.I personally really loved the original Hahd story despite it seeming to be hated by most lorefags for some reason (I guess the dreaded "it's too silly and silly things never happen in real life" excuse that's used to shut down a lot of lore like the Skyrim city shakeup, or the attempt to axe Old Ebonheart from Vardenfell) and I expected to hate this, but I actually really grew to love this proposal, and it'd be cool as hell to see it as joinable since it'd provide interesting gameplay for stealth and magic characters. It reminds me a bit of how the Archeologist guild in Daggerfall Unity does that, creating a unique niche and gameplay style.
>>734160890>>734161505Speaking of the TR epilogue my favorite interpretation of Foul Murder is that Nerevar wanted the Tribunal to kill him to begin the prophecy. Everyone in the mural knew exactly what they were doing and knew what was coming.
>>734168217Explain, why would he need to do the prophecy, especially if Dagoth Ur was in on it too? The only thing I can think of is needing Akulakhan to get built to fight against the Numidium in Landfall.
>>734167728The Planet of the Apes inspiration in their voice acting is incredible and fits in perfect with the Morrowind style perfectly. I'd hope they get the voice actor for that Imga to record a bunch more extra lines for things like major cities (Mournhold) or for playable races and so on to futureproof him.Imga should also be really more common in Western Tamriel, on par with Argonians in Morrowind (bar slave populations). The only reason they aren't in official games is purely because Bethesda can't be bothered to include them. Reachmen and Maomer at least come from isolationist cultures.
>>734168217
If you use the race unlocker and play as a Malahk Orc, does the game's race-specific dialogue refer to you as an Orc like the Khajiits are all Khajiits?
>>734168193I'm cool with some of the sillier lore, and I'm not happy with them cutting out some of the wackier stuff in PT (like skywhales) but I always felt like Hahd and Nahd (along with the literal description of events in Lympan March) was a bit too out there to implement as-written. Weird mystery cults though are a VERY Cyrodiil appropriate thing, so there's merit in doing it like that. It does sound to me like these guys are at risk of Zero-Summing themselves though.
>>734168851>like skywhalesThey cut skywhales what the fuck, those are cool as hell and peak fantasy and majestyPlus I thought one of Skyrim's motifs for animals was going to be flying marine life alongside ice age animals, like how Morrowind's motifs are dinos and giant bugs and Cyrodil's motif is birds.
>>734169024I think their issue with them is they made drugs. A lot of these people who take everything really seriously take issues with trippy drug stuff. Ignoring how real people drink certain animals' piss or lick their secretions to get high, of course.
>>734168193Gotta be honest, the less Kirkbride forum post stuff, the better.I like his art, but a lot of his ideas, especially the forum stuff, are... not good to be polite.
>>734169210His obsession with esoterica is part of what made Morrowind actually interesting. The forum stuff is just more of the same, and applied to other provinces (like Skyrim.) It's fun. The only serious issue I take with it is how free he got with profanity and crudeness, which took me out of it at times.
>>734167728TAM RUGH TAM TAM RUGH
>>734169454There is nothing really esoteric or weird about Morrowind besides the place being a strange with the mushrooms and bugs and such. Underneath the alien fauna and flora, it's a pretty bog-standard setting and the esoteric-ness is contained to Vivec's storybook of lies.There's nothing like this shit in Morrowind.>the Imperial Dracocryptography & Authentifications Congress petitioned to the Elder Council that the native government be further reorganized "to alleviate the sleeve-strain of invaluable but atrophying memospores"
>>734148429>almalexia>feethm...
>>734167728>>734169870Get your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape
>>734169930I mean sure, if you're in the business of not reading lorebooks or openly just discounting everything contained within in them. But at that point you're just not engaging with the setting at the same level or in the same way as we are. Which is fine but you are just innately not going to enjoy having conversations about such topics and should avoid them instead. Better to talk about PC questlines or city lore, the mundane stuff the mods also have a lot of, rather than complaining about the present esoterica.
>>734158317Ebonheart got renovated by Tiber Septim. Wonder why Vivec was so open to gift him Numidium? The Empire had thoroughly smushed the city to rubble.
>>734161226He could've tried to run, even in his wounded state. Slashing his feet off while he was distracted was the only choice.
>>734170162Please, post "esoteric" lorebooks from Morrowind.
>>734170427I'm not interested in having a spiteful slap fight with you dude, I'm agreeing to disagree amicably and that's all you're getting out of me.
>>734161226I thought it was because she actually wanted Nerevar to be able to come from any walk of life. She did it for the same reason the rest of the Tribunal did it. They loved Nerevar.>>734168193I don't get the point of this when you can already visit Hahd in the Anvil release. The quest where you help the playwright there share his play was actually really fun.
>>734170494No, you're backing out because you realized that don't really know what comes from the actual game of Morrowind and what comes from forum posts.
>>734169210Is Hahd really that esoteric? I thought the story was the most straightforward thing in Pocket Guide 2. It's basically your pulp weird fiction/light-cosmic horror story.
>>734170850I'm not the one who said it was. I just said I think Kirkbride is a good artist but a bad ideas guy.He needs a wrangler or shit gets stupid (and full of gibberish and sci-fi) fast.
>>734170642>I thought it was because she actually wanted Nerevar to be able to come from any walk of life. She did it for the same reason the rest of the Tribunal did it. They loved NerevarThat's in line with >>734168217 theory, but the other, mainstream one, that they were just greedy traitors, has to find another reason for why she took his feet.
>>734171014that's like your retarded opinion man.
>>734171014>and sci-fiPlay Ultima III.
>>734168515We should definitely have a bunch of them in Valenwood at least, we know they're native there.
>>734167728Monkey.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZbK--FCu4
>>734142392>thief character>in a game where none of the thief skills worklmaojust cheat in the gold at that point
>>734171928If you're trying to contact prophet Marukh, dial 1.If you're trying to destroy elves, dial 1.If you're trying to save Cyrodiil, dial 1.
>>734149609What happened?Last time I played they had a definitely incomplete but still pretty solid looking skeleton of a city there, now it's just gone.
>>734172394>>734167484
>>734172394A lot happened. But the main reason was that the project was basically dying at the time. The release of Oblivion and Skyrim really hurt the project back then. All we see now is the result of a whole new wave of popularity for both project and Morrowind in general. They call it a renaissance themselves. If you are interested in more details, they have an article on the history of the project. https://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/about/project-history
>>734148429>>734151448Keep in mind Almalexia is one f the biggest cities in Tamriel, and one of the few Megalopolises. These are meant to be cities so big that you could do a small playthrough just in them and it feel accomplishing and "complete".>Cyrodiil (Cyrodiil)>Almalexia (Morrowind)>Wayrest (High Rock)>Alinor (Summerset Isles)>Senchal (Elsweyr)Narsis is a bit smaller but still a fucking massive city and it proved the vision that this kind of city was possible to make in Morrowind, and gave everyone the confidence to make Almalexia sooner than later.Hammerfell, Skyrim, Valenwood, and Black Marsh are all backwaters that won't get to have a city this big.
>>734172929For Skyrim and Hammerfell, it's not that they're backwaters, but that their native population is fiercely independent and likes to live outside of cities, and also the environment is rather harsh. Cities like Haafingar, Winterhold, and Sentinel are still meant to be at least the size of Narsis. They're not in the Top 5, but they're still in the Top 10.
>>734172929Narsis is definitely their way to test waters before Almalexia. All these sewers and catacombs beneath the city definitely have that Almalexia vibe.
>>734172929>Black MarshI have high expectations for them to make Lilmoth a pretty city.>ValenwoodSilvenar is literally supposed to be made out of trees and flowers and breathtakingly beautiful, they better not fuck that one up.
>>734173079Ragada and Companion hands wrote this post
>>734174170>Noble and honorable warriors wrote this postWow what high praise you heap on me, anon.
Look out everyone, N'wahs are in this thread trying to make their barbarian hellholes look civilizedSuperpower by 4th era I'm sure
>>734154110Stop trying to do roll slop.Do Mount And Blade combat instead.
>>734154110It exists already: Turn Based Combat.
>>734174358Careful about that meteor, dark elf.
>>734172716>Download a preview.>That clearly has many finished areas but some unfinished ones.>Think that entire mod is just empty environments.Some people really are too fucking stupid to live.
>>734174843more like Turn Cringe Combat
Anyone ever have ideas for a quest that they know they'll never make the mod for?For me,>"Eight Little Mooncrabs">The player stumbles upon a small island with an Anvil-style mansion in the Abecean sea>A Dremora guards the front and tells the player that they can't come in unless they intend to be part of "the dinner party", starting the quest formally>If the player joins the party, they're treated to a long murder-mystery quest, with characters like the Dremora Butler who has been bound by magic to follow certain commands and can only answer a single question (your character's stats can open new questions or even find flaws in the conjuration magic to get more answers out of him), a hotheaded Dunmer who claims to be a member of House Telvanni and is constantly bristling against the other guests and later find out is a compulsive liar, an Imperial who claims to have visited every province and is highly regarded in the Legion only to find out he was stripped of his rank for crimes in Black Marsh during the Soulrest Uprising, and a Maomer who speaks in broken Tamrielic and you have to interpret his broken language to understand him>The player can either go in guns-a-blazing (which will ultimately result in everyone attacking you because how else would they react to a murderhobo), ride it out passively to see at the end who the murderer is, or find a way to accuse the murderer and confront them (if you can't present hard evidence or skill checks with your accusation everyone will assume you're the murderer instead)>(Notably the reward wouldn't be different if you solve the quest or ride it to the end just because I wouldn't want to encourage people to ruin it by just looking up who did it)Basically just a quest version of "And then there were none" which I think could be really fun, and people love murder mystery quests like that.
>>734175901Most people don't really care. Installing mods is already a big task for them. They downloaded something, it sucks, and they don't want to figure out whether it was a preview or something else.
>>734175940How dare you?
>>734176017I kinda want something like Raven Rock but it's about building up and customizing your own little island pirate base, and getting quests to go out and raid ships.
>>734142392The Ebonheart Thieves Guild quest was the first truly successful quest line in TR, so it became established that they get the most attention and the best quests.
>>734176017Great concept, anon. I like the idea of servants hexed to fit detective story conventions.
Markarth when?
>>734173158>All these sewers and catacombs beneath the city definitely have that Almalexia vibe.the narsis underground was fucking sweet, I did not expect that shit
>>734176017>that they know they'll never make the mod for?desu your quest sounds incredibly easy to implement, why don't you just do it?that's what I started doing with the mods I wanted, I just started fucking around making them and had a shitload of fun doing itI still have a ton to do but I'm doing it for me so no issues with anything silly like time constraints.Seriously just grab the construction set and upgrade to it that makes it not a nightmare to use and just play around.
>>734179540Even unique assets should not be a problem as you can simply use TR data
>>734178085Markarth Side*
>>734179540I've never made a mod before, let alone a quest mod. And what I'd imagine, with branching paths and some light scripting seems out of my skill level.Also, I have a potato PC.
>>734180254construction set is beginner level game making and the scripting is if else statements and not much elsethat's why I said just do it and fuck around, it's easy and there's not any risk of failure so who cares?just write down whatever you want the quest to do in a notebook so you can follow along with how you need it to progress and stop you from getting lost when doing ityou are seriously over thinking it, a bunch of retards made all sorts of quests/mods and uploaded them to the internet if you want an easy thing to do to start with go find a mod you like and start looking at how they made it and see how everything fits in together, that's what I did, then I starting making modifications to that mod to make it better for what I wanted personally
>>734179540> desu your quest sounds incredibly easy to implement, why don't you just do it?Making an island is hard.
>>734142392To bad Sneak is borked in vanilla Morrowind.
>>734181514https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-O7qEIHpNw
>>734170427https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sithis_(book)https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_36_Lessons_of_Vivechttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:A_worn_and_weathered_note
>>734181802Anybody know about the dark project mod this dude mentioned in the comments?
Boomer who's never played OpenMW here. What's the go to combat mod these days? I want to see how Oblivionified the nerds managed to make it.
>>734181802>openmwoh fuck, wonder how it works with the other openmw stealing stuff that I forget all of the names of
>>734182626>I want to see how Oblivionified the nerds managed to make it.I don't know what this even meansYou want bloated hp and always hit?Or what?
>>734181802oh it's the guy who did the mercy mod too, neat
>>734182769Nah, like animations and shit.>always hitHey, fuck you too.
>>734183071animationshttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52596and shit https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52221
>>734143513I'd rather be the wizard and frolic around casting whimsical spells.
>>734171014I'm so tired of retards bitching about sci fi elements being used in fantasy despite it not being that much of a used trope. Might and Magic 6 is kino because of it's reveal
>>734171985OP here. They do work they just require more work. Sneak works well when you get it really high and occasional combo it with Illusion magic. It's also a slowish skill to train as it requires you to save scum pickpocketing and that only works at level 45. Also I think marksman is underrated. I love using crossbows and bows in this game. I personally enjoyed my thief character during my playthrough of Project Cyrodiil
>>734183636Thank you, sera.
>>734172716The reason this mod is popular again is probably because bethesda hasn't made a good open world game in almost 10 to 12 years and people are tired of the dumbing down of the RPG mechanics in their games.
>>734181514I've gotten sneak to work for me. It just requires more investment and save scumming pick pocket.
>>734167728MONKEY PUSSY
Anons give me a race, backstory, class and goals. Starting a new playthrough. Also starting location would be welcome. Playing with TR and PT
>>734184556An Imga Agent in Bal Foyn with an empty purse, wounded ego, and desire to become the top dog in a province he was banished too.
>>734184556Nord barbarian from Skyrim, Morrowind is so hot and humid to him that he refuses to wear armor. He doesn't use magic either because he distrusts it and he's primitive. Starting location is Old Ebonheart.
>>734185230how did this literal caveman end up in old ebonheart?
>>734185230I forgot goals, get rich, become a successful mercenary and nobleman, get yourself a harem with command humanoid in your mansion (using amulets and scrolls is allowed). House Hlaalu would be the most appropriate for him to join, Redoran is fond of Nord mercenaries but they're too poor to consider working for seriously, and Telvanni are too weird and dangerous to deal with. Morag Tong and Fighter's Guild as well.
>>734185409Your clan was wiped out. After getting your revenge you had nothing left for you in Skyrim so you headed down South, as was popular for Nord barbarians at the time.
You know, Trueflame is a really overdesigned weapon. It's such a shame too when Hopesfire is such a neatly designed khopesh.
>>734185365boats
>>734185571It's a great time capsule. The days of early 2000 donut steel OC in fantasy.
>>734142392does this work with openmw?how difficult is the install?
>>734184556Breton, Crusader classyou're the seventh son of an impoverished noble housenot only your family has nothing to give you but it also managed to tie you up in monastery for for a few yearswhile you enjoyed learning about magic and legends you always wanted to leave the monastery life and find your own way in lifeduring your free time you stumbled upon an old tome, held together by cobwebs and dust it spoke at length about a knight from previous century and his journey across Tamrielwhat caught your attention was chapter dedicated to Knight's quest to find s relic rumored to be found in Morrowind, none other than the legendary blade Chrysamereyour mind was set on finding that blade and follow the footsteps of that Knight, few days later during jester's day you managed to sneak out of the monastery with your meager possessions and stove away on a merchant shipunfortunately you failed to notice the ship you were on was heading for Cyrodil rather than Morrowind's mainlandScenario A.)the captain was furious once you were discovered aboard the imperial trading ship, a serious offenseyour sentence was 10 years in imperial city prisonfate however had other plans for you, the emperor himself appeared before your cell one day, giving you a choice between imprisonment and service to the empire in Morrowindfew months later you were standing in unfamiliar land in the village of Seyda Neen where your journey begins, fulfil your obligation to the empire and find the legendary bladeB.)you were discovered only a few hours after casting off, Captain of the Vessel a tall Nord man decided to spare your life and instead pressgangedyou into service aboard his shipafter weeks of grueling work you finally arrived in city of Anvil, where you were released from your service to the ship's crewyour journey begins in Cyrodil, find a way to equip yourself for a dangerous journey to Morrowind and find the blade you were dreaming about
>>734176578idk i thought the narsis mages guild was better than its thieves guild
>>734147319With TR places like Tel Branora don't feel so remote like they used to in the original.
>>734186735>does this work with openmw?Yes, though some stuff like new spell and weather effects are MWSE only>how difficult is the install?Not difficult at all, just dump it and Tamriel Data into your Data Files or make new files somewhere and dump them there and use the OpenMW append directories button to locate them if you want a cleaner install. Tamriel Rebuilt and Skyrim: Home of the Nords are both recommended to use in conjuction and the installation for them is the same.https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44922https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44537
>>734147319What are they doing to Aimrah
Are the landmasses from the various Project Tamriel mods supposed to be connected? Could I theoretically walk all the way from Morrowind to Skyrim and then Cyrodiil (once all the land inbetween has been completed) or will there be teleports and loading screens?
>>734190024It's all the same map.You can even jump the land gaps if you use strong enough magic, I jumped from Narsis to Stirk to complete a mages guild quest
>>734190024All the same worldspace
>>734188145You get new places in exchange, Nivalis in particular feels like being at the edge of the world, very comfy>>734189674Imrove the architecture by removing cobbling of assets
>>734190874>You get new places in exchangeI guess so. It's just TR has that much of a transformative effect on MW's feel.
>>734190024the former
>>734171558>mainstream*Ashlander
where is the City of Darkness and Melee?
>>734197123That'd be Blacklight
>Download the mod>Decide to walk to Narsis since everyone keeps talking about how big it is>Start walking>Hours later I decide to give it a rest at a cozy hlaalu fishing village by the thirrI am impressed. This map is absolutely massive, and I've only seen what's right by the road. Did you know there's a troll blocking one of the bridges to Narsis? Did you know there's an imperial mage whose experimental superspeed boots you can take, the very same ones that killed him? Did you know that there's a whole forest of mushrooms? Did you know there's a whole pilgrim freeway with murals and shrines and everything? There's so much here. How big is this mod?
>>734197804>How big is this mod?Absolutely massive. Each update is almost a full game within itself. One playthrough I dedicated to just Narsis and I got a good 30 hours out of it.
>>734197804More than that, there are various biomes and architecture. Akamora area is so comfy.
>>734197804There's so much content, it really warrants multiple playthroughs
Who's your favorite Mainland character?
>>734199506>I'm crystal riiiiiickStill enjoyed the whole questline.
>>734199506mogs every other wizard in fashion
>>734200046Dripped to the gills, colovian fur brainlets could never
>Found a hat with summon daedroth in PCYeah my mage only altmer early game is saved
>>734190024All the projects are trying to finish up their borderlands right now to let you physically walk between them. Only issue will be Morrowind being on its own for a long time.
>>734143791TR at least has really amped up its development to a major release annually. You may only have to wait about 7 years for a full experience!
>>734196678The mainstream theory among fans. Obviously nobody buys the official Temple account because we've all read Vivec's confession. So it's between "The Tribunal betrayed Nerevar for power" and "Everyone involved knew the Nerevarine had to come to be, and so it was a willing ritual sacrifice."
>>734202512The exciting thing is that by the time they're doing Dres Black Marsh will have opened up too, so you can walk in and do your very own Argonian slave raid.
>>734202529>willing ritual sacrificeBullshit. They knew what Azura can do. The entire Khajit religion is about her being able to reincarnate them. Her doing it to her champion was expected. They knew he would come and did everything they could think off to delay it and making so his soul to have work extra hard for it to happen.
>>734202705Well I was asking the anon who proposed that to explain to me his reasoning for it in the first place. I can make the argument for it, but it's not my theory so I'm not going to argue for it.
>>734202512If they manage to stick to 1 major release a year then Morrowind could be complete by 2036 but that's a very optimistic projection.
>>734202990Not beating those remakes slowing down development accusations.
>>734203403Which remakes in particular? Poison song is only a positive and it will add new shit as well.
>>734203501All of them? You can see Necrom and Telvannis overhauls pushing Dres further out on that list. That's not to say it's not good content, but it is funny to see it when they originally claimed it wouldn't get in the way of work on new areas.
>>734202334maybe after Cyrodill and SHOTN meet they'll work east along the border until they hit MW
>>734203581i thought telvannis overhaul will be the last. And dres is so far out that you're really reaching with the argument that remakes are slowing anything down.
>>734203605I don't know what SHOTN's plans are after Falkreath but I believe PC is planning on doubling back and finishing Colovia (Chorrol, Skingrad, and eventually Delodiil) so they're not in any immediate rush to reach MW. Whether they go and do Artemon, Bruma, and Cheydinhal after that (which lets them reach Morrowind,) start in on Bravil (and thus Nibenay) or jump on the Imperial City is something even they probably don't know.
>>734203914Morrowind Cyrodiil border circa 2050 (source: godhead)
>>734204140The party at the retirement home is gonna be crazy.
>>734204326It's gonna be wild. It will be also the same year as 1st Summerset Isles release.
>>734175940More like Turn Gay Gundam
>>734142392playing fantasy rogue thief characters is fun especially if there are big towns and cities to skulk around. shame there are no thief games out there
>>734199506
>>734203707They're listing Telvannis remake before Dres 1.
>>734206223To be fair to the Bosmer, Seeming is Being in this setting. Not like a Sload has any right calling anyone else a monster either.
>>734204504So that's why it has the moustache.
>>734206230why
>>734202693Not really since the one part of Black Marsh available by then if any will be the Hlaalu land
>>734215002Explain why would you artificially extend lifespan of this thread instead of making another one when there's real interest in one.
>>734212956Yeah, which is a small slice of Shipal-Shin as a transition area into the Valley of Storms and the city of Stormhold. There's already assets out there for Black Marsh's Shipal-Shin. It wouldn't be remotely unrealistic for someone to start working on a Stormhold release right now, and the only reason they haven't is because they've decided nobody can open up a new Province until the first High Rock and Hammerfell releases.
>>734215170Love is under my will only.
>>734216392Go back to >>>/vg/
>>734212920Has anyone made a mod where you need to wear the rebreathers and such during Ash Storms? I also know it's intended they have basically stilsuits to recycle fluids in the lore, has any of those survival mods added one of those?
>>734143242Is there really?
>>734143513Not funny.
>>734143715That wasn't the intention.
>>734143791Wait another 10 years.
>>734144123>I'd wait until Poison Song at the latest.Why is that?
>>734144235Surely they'll finish it one day.
>>734217642>outlanders really need rebreathers to survive an ash stormScared of some ash in your lungs?
>>734145536Why is that?
>>734145631>This is the worst time to start.Is it?
>>734145937How is that bait?
>>734146196That's a lot of waiting.
>>734218026Because that's coming out soon.>>734218231Only if you plan on playing around the Indoril areas. It's a good time if you just want Hlaalu.
>>734147027What do you love about it?
>>734218026Because it's the expansion coming out the soonest. >>734218161You darkies need to do it too.
>>734218456Or especially Telvanni!:^)
>>734218456>Because that's coming out soon.Really? When?
>>734218523This year. See >>734202990
>>734218482>Because it's the expansion coming out the soonest.How soon?
>>734218523Sometime this year, I don't think there's any official date. I assume maybe this fall.
>>734218571Is that official?
>>734218651It's official in the sense that it's their tentative release schedule and not a series of hard dates.
>>734218621If it's not official, then it may not release during this time period after all.
>>734211379Because getting the lands of the 3 major Houses featured in the game is both easier and more important than making stuff up from scratch for House Dres.
maybe this is a stupid question but can you get to mournhold in TR? does it exist on the mainland or are they not touching it because its already in vanilla
>>734218697Where did they announce it?
>>734218775Same place you learned how to play stupid.
>>734218710You can check their discord they're making good progress. Sometime in 2026 is a very reasonable guess, barring some major catastrophe happening that slows down progress on the project significantly.
>>734218739You can't physically walk to it right now, no.
>>734218818Did the little faggot cry baby start pissing herself because his bullshit lies were called out?
>>734218842>barring some major catastrophe happening that slows down progress on the project significantlyLike?
>>734218910Man doomposting about TR releases right now so soon after Narsis is fucking wild. At least wait until TESVI has a release date or something so you have real ammo.
>>734218842Damn Vivec let himself go.
>>734218987>TESVIIf anything it'd speed up the process.
>>734219153I just imagine some devs are going to take a break to play it when it comes out. Yeah most of them are going to come away extremely disappointed, and it will attract new people to TR/PT in general eventually, but there's going to be a couple months of slowed dev while TES addicts play through the giant turd Bethesda made.
>>734218739They plan to make the whole city of Almalexia where Mournhold is the center of it. No clue if they'll just integrate Tribunal into it or still treat it as self contained.
>>734219908Last I heard they were going to re-implement Tribunal to use the expanded city rather than isolate it in a keep.
>>734218981WW3
>all I had to do to revive this thread is to samefag a few times, asking the most low effort questionsThis is how it's done, you lazy faggot.Yes, I'm talking to you. If you want to make Morrowind threads on /v/ last, don't bump them from page 10 every hour or so, actually try to engage with the thread.
>>734219974Won't that break every single Tribunal mod in the process
>>734219908It'll be redistributed like the other anon said
>>734220272wouldn't you still be capable of teleporting to the modded tribunal worldspace floating in the ether as long as you have the .esm installed
>>734218981Like the indoril tileset dev ragequitting and taking all their assets with them. Not to worry though that surely won't happen a third time...
>>734220434If they're changing the interiors it'll still break it, even if the original Mournhold exterior is still around
Character?>Argonian Female Combat Specialization?>Warrior, SpearsName?>Britney Bitch
>>734220272Yes it would, at least for ones that use the overworld. Anything that alters an interior, including dungeons, can be made compatible without too much fuss.
Tell me about the Sinathi. Why do they wear the beard?
>>734220530Depends how they implement it, I would assume they'll be creating their own ids for everything and just kinda copypasting stuff over rather than overwriting anything. It'll be new exteriors that point to new interiors without really touching the original DLC.
>TR leaves Tribunal and its content leveled as if you were finished a main quest like Bethesda initially intended leaving shit like goblins stronger than Dagoth Ur around>TR rebalances the content to a level on par with main MorrowindWhich would you rather have?
>>734220670I don't know, you tell me. As someone completely unaware of who these are, it makes them look inbred.
>>734220670No idea. I use a mod by one of the TR devs to remove ithttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57301
>>734220670Discworld dwarf inspirations
>>734220986I'd prefer the later for the goblins but the former makes more sense for when you're dealing with High Ordinators and Almalexia.
>>734220986There's not enough good in Tribunal without mods so if they want to touch it, go ahead. I know they're leaving Sotha Sil alone at least.
>>734221067What a godsend.
>>734220986The latter, except Almalexia, keep her hard like Vivec. Just treating it as an extension of the main story basically. I actually prefer to fight Almalexia before Dagoth
>>734221264Is SSE that iconic? It didn't feel like it fit with the rest of the game.
>>734221043The Shinathi are a nomadic dunmer subculture from the deserty part of Morrowind TR added except unlike the similarly nomadic ashlanders they worship the Tribunal and are well integrated into the Great House system as best buddies of House Hlaalu
>>734221391That was intentional. Sotha Sil should feel at odds with the rest of reality.
>>734221764And how does that justify their women having a completely different biology than other Dunmer?
>>734221764I already hate them.
>>734170642I'm honestly not sure Ayem was as Metaphysically inclined as Seht or Vehk. Out of the three, she seems the least likely to invoke (at least, deliberately) the metaphysical ritualistic bits.That being said, I could see her falling into the usual Enantiomorphic trap that always happens with TES characters that don't pay attention, or being dragged into Metaphysical rituals by Vehk.
>>734221764And the women have thick red unibrows and goatees, or five o'clock shadows.
>>734221848idk, i didn't even know that was meant to be a shinathi thing until now, I thought the bearded female dunmer faces were related to the ashlander mabrigashes who are like evil witches who steal masculinity or whatever and are kinda canon since they're actually mentioned in MK writings and a throwaway line or two in the base game
>>734221938Where do I get the rest of that suit, asking for a friend.
are there any mini games in TR?Starwind has pazaak and jarrik(?)
>>734220986TR already uses goblins, so tune the ones in the sewers to the same strength. everything else can just be retuned at the highest point the mainland is meant to have.>but dagoth uris too weak. always has been
>>734199506>Now that you've done all my Tasks for me, I think it's time for your reward...>To become my undead slave for all eternity!>What? You don't want that?>Oh, that's fine. I guess I could teach you about Enchanting instead.How could one guy possibly be this based?
>>734222265There's some gambling minigames in Anvil.
>>734222265There's Ninehole, Thirty-six and Hortator and with a mod you can play Thirteen Telvanni
>>734221969I think they wanted to base it on that one Turkish princess but refuse to understand that the reason she looked like that was intense inbreeding.
>>734222765I saw the cards but didn't see an option to actually play.
>>734224132There's a cardbox in some taverns that if you activate you can play
>>734222765nineholes kinda feels like cheating cos you win every time
>>734222732Tell me about the Captain! Why does he wear the Masque?
>>734224931Well tic-tac-toe is a solved game and it's just that
>Engages the monkeys in an autism ray duel
>>734225402Yeah I know. I kinda wish places like the Abacette had more casino-y games in em too.
>>734222208The rest of the armour is not out yet, maybe in the next PT expansion.
>>734225876>Loses
>>734226020He just wasn't autistic enough to beat Marukh
>>734222265Is Starwind worth a shit? I'm vaguely interested but I've never seen anyone talk about it.
