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>Start feeling a tiny bit of regret over the fact that he's tortured and killed hundreds of lolis
>Creates a clone so that she may live a normal life that he entrusts with his final BOW juice
>Led everyone on a wild goose chase that makes them think the girl is somehow special
>Nope she's literally just a normal girl that he simply entrusted an anti-BOW vax with as a final fuck you
>Literally pulls the "Fuck this is my work and I can destroy it if I want to" just to spite everyone who stole his shit

Was this a cringe or based twist on the character?
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>>734188839
>entrusts with his final BOW juice
But he didn't tho.
>>Nope she's etc.
He didn't do that, either. It's password-controlled. Alyssa might have been able to guess the password, maybe, but she wasn't really entrusted with it, and neither was Grace.
He did try to entrust his estate to Grace, with Alyssa as executor.
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>>734188839
When you get old and you don't feel as strong and powerful as before, you start to use the brain more. Believe it or not, most young idiots think they're like Goku, invincible, because the hormones and youth.
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I'm surprised people aren't asking the actual question which is why Victor thought Grace was special. Was Gideon just hyper autistic and thought that there was far more to her than Spencer was letting on?
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>>734189361
>I'm surprised people aren't asking the actual question which is why Victor thought Grace was special

He didn't, its revealed right at the end that he knew for the entire game, he just pretended he didn't and kept up the whole Grace shit to string Zeno and the Connections along since they have basically infinite resources and funding
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>>734188839
Grace wasn't a clone, just some random orphan he adopted.
>>734189240
Also, you'd think the password will be locked to match Grace's biometrics or some shit, because every idiot can just figure out such an easy password.
And Grace took a guess anyway.
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>>734189240
The reason he does the interview with Alyssa is so Grace will be able to figure out the password for Elpis
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>>734188839
Spencer was so evil, he forgot he was senile.
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>>734189528
Brainlet here, she was injected with elpis or something before though right? She gets bit like 4000 times and has no issues
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>>734189530
Grace is the original, the first and she's a normal girl. It doesn't mean she isn't special. All clones was made based on her, trying to get the answers to release Elpis by blood memory and the T-virus because Wesker and his people couldn't find the original anywhere. I believe her blood is special tho. For why else Gideon was taking blood from her in that amount after kidnap her.
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>>734188839
If I were umbrella, I'd rather capture Leon and clone him. Why would I bother fucking around with viruses and bioweapons when the perfect man exists?
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>>734189746
That's why I think the story was rewritten midway through. I think originally it WAS supposed to be about Grace being the chosen one clone with super DNA like Zeno was suggesting. But then someone at Capcom realized this shit is lame at this point and came up with that twist where she isn't anyone special. Which is a good twist, but it doesn't gel with what the game was telling us up to this point.
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>>734189530
>Grace wasn't a clone, just some random orphan he adopted.
Grace, Emily and the Girl are all clones of Chloe who died in 1990. The reason they think Grace is special is because why would he could through the trouble of cloning her. Not realizing he did it purely for sentimental reasons.

>Also, you'd think the password will be locked to match Grace's biometrics or some shit, because every idiot can just figure out such an easy password.
That's literally exactly why he did it. Since its Spencer everyone expects its to be some kind of elaborate lock, hence the clones of Grace trying to figure it out, but its just a hokey riddle, a "blind hope"
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>>734189770
She can't be the original, because her age doesn't match. She's definately not 40+ years old, because the clone experiments started potentially in the late 80's, given that we play as another clone in 1990.
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>>734189897
I have a feeling a lot of answers are being annoyingly saved for the DLC or 10.
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Speaking of Spencer and Wesker, is RE5 worth playing if only for the story, such as it is? I still haven't played 5 and 6.
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>>734190269
5 is a good game and doesn't deserve to get lumped together with 6. It's basically more linear RE4, it's really fun in co-op
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>>734190269
If you like original re4 you will enjoy re5 it's very similar
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>>734190269
It's a good game. Specially knowing people refuse to make a remake of it because "oh no, the racism!"
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>>734190431
...I actually didn't. I much prefer the more survival horror approach of RE1,2.
But I am always open to new ideas.
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>>734190495
I have a feeling we'll get a remake eventually.
Because "it's racist" doesn't hold any water. Tell me how RE4 wasn't stereotyping Hispanic people. Hell, even RE2 and 3 were stereotyping Americans.
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>>734190586
I'm sure they'll do a remake, they just want to redo Wesker's entire story, and to do that they'd have to redo 0, 1, and Veronica.
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>>734190670
Remaking RE1 and 0 makes no sense, given that remakes of those hold up really well. I would even say the remake of 1 is bettee than the original.
But Code Veronica - I can see that. It's the only game that's stuck on an ancient console and not many people have played it.
But apparently they are remaking 0... for some reason.
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>>734189361
>Spencer 'leaked' a shit ton of fabricated info on Elpis after the Racoon City incident to make the other group kill each other to get it
>Victor put two and two together and realised that Grace was connected in some way
>Victor got his hands on some of Grace's DNA in 2004 and immediately started making clones to figure out Elpis
>Grace doesn't actually have Elpis in her and is actually just a designer baby that may or may not be completely immune to the T-Virus
>This causes the clones to have wildly differing side effects
>Victor starts going crazy and finds out that Alyssa is looking into Elpis
>Victor kills Alyssa
>Over a decade later Victor decides to take Grace because he believes to her be the key to Elpis
Victor is technically correct about her being the key but not for the reasons he thinks
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>>734190586
>Tell me how RE4 wasn't stereotyping Hispanic people.
it's set in SPAIN.
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>>734188839
There are so many villains in the series that I dont mind seeing him get his redemption.
His death in 5 is memorable as fuck.
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Am I the only one that thinks Spencer is retarded? He literally created the thing he was trying to make. A literal fucking immortality drug and instead of taking it he hid it away to undo his sins after his death.
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>>734190943
But what about Chloe then?
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>>734190586
>Tell me how RE4 wasn't stereotyping Hispanic people
Call a Spanish person Hispanic and see what they do to you.
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>>734191023
Elpis is not an immortality drug. It's an antiviral to cancel out Spencers previous creation, the T-Virus.
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Holy fuck do retards really have problem understanding a simple bait and switch story?
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>>734191054
I just call them "hombres" I just wanted to be polite.
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I've seen people argue that Grace has no relation to Emily and Chloe at all but that makes zero fucking sense.

Yes, Grace is "normal" (as far as we know) as in she's just a bioengineered human by Spencer, she's not genetically connected to Elpis or intended to be some kind of vessel for Spencer to take over. He just created and adopted a normal girl, that's his final "joke" which confuses everyone because they think there has to be some big scheme involved with Grace, but there isn't. He just had a lapse of humanity and created and adopted a kid, making her essentially his daughter.

The idea that he somehow adopted another born natural girl that just happens to look identical to Chloe that died a decade prior which confuses the fuck out of everyone makes no fucking sense. Grace is an Umbrella creation, she just wasn't created for any other purpose other than Spencer having some regrets in his final days
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>>734191045
Simple. Grace is the 'perfect' child born from the program because she didn't horrifically mutate after a few weeks because they didn't rapidly age her like the rest.
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>>734190269
It's good. But suffers from a braindead companion AI and awful camera by modern standards. Also a fucklot of shaky cam on cutscenes for that Blair Witch Project feel.
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>>734191097
I do, but the shit does feel like it was rewritten late in development. Its messy and unanswered and I imagine we wont have the entire story until the dlc, if even then.
Capcom is notoriously unreliable with DLC for RE games.
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>>734191092
And yet it visibly deages Leon.
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>>734188839
say it with me: character assasination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_assassination
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>>734191097
Yes, because you have multiple unreliable narrators that contradict each other, plus the story starts contradicting itself at some point. So either someone is bullshitting you, or there are gaping plot holes in the story.
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>>734191125
She's also the 'living key' to Elpis.
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>>734188839
Someone at Vanguard just saw him as his selfinsert
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>>734190586
remake of 5 is 100% happening, re9 has so many variation in black zombies that i am convinced they are already making assets for re5
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>>734191179
It doesn't?
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>>734191258
>RE5R starts with a opening segment that is a redo of Lost in Nightmares
>You can find a photo of Spencer and Grace
>You can find notes that reference Grace and Spencer's plan to leave her with Alyssa
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>>734191338
Then what the fuck did?
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>>734191376
Why are you people so insistant Leon got deaged? He didn't.
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>>734191429
Motherfucker he looks 20yrs younger after getting cured.
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>>734191461
He looks exactly the same, what are you on about?
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>>734191515
Bitch are you blind?
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>>734191461
he went from late stage t-virus, which weve NEVER seen in the lore before to completely cured in like 15 seconds.
He doesnt look the same, though I wont say it deages him until i finish my second playthrough. I kinda noticed it on the first.
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How are they going to BIOHAZARD any further when Elpis is the ultimate antiviral that stops all viruses.
Where do we go from here.
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>>734191550
NTA, but he does look a bit younger.
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>>734189596
That plan is shit. It borders on the Saw levels of omniscient guesswork Jigsaw does leaving tapes for people to play. Alyssa doesn't even show her the stupid interviews, and it is lucky the lab built 40 sum years ago has a compatible computer to play the stupid disc.
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>>734191592
Alien shit
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>>734191592
Only effects T-virus. So G, Plagas, Ouroborus, (insert other parasites) are still good
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>>734191592
1. The CONNECTIONS will come up with a new virus that Elpis can't cure.
2. Next game will forget about Elpis being a thing.
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>>734191592
parasites, bacteria, macrophages, andient virus under arctic ice, some shit from a asteroid, ai made diseases, mold etc etc

but to be completely honest i personally think they will reboot after X like with megaman
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>>734191624
It's about time we ripped off "The Thing".
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>>734191610
>computer to play the stupid disc.
Umbrellas was using that tech since the first game. In canon a shit ton of highly valuable and confiendtial information has been stored on them throughout the series.
I would argue umbrellas would keep that tech supported exactly for reasons like this, knowing all their leadership are nuts and the companies been around for like 50 years.
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>>734191692
Wasn't the Las Plagas excavated from fosills in meteorite rock?
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>>734191610
The lab gets taken over by The Connections after Raccoon City and Spencer's fall, it hasn't been inactive for almost 30 years
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>>734191697
I feel like in 2026, the mother would have her data of interviews conducted 20 years ago stored on an sd card or usb.
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>>734191728
Sure, let's go with that.
I legit don't remember.
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>>734188839
>>Creates a clone so that she may live a normal life that he entrusts with his final BOW juice
Not happened
Grace just put 2 and 2 together and deduced that spencer spoke of "hope"
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>>734191685
Resident Evil Black Plague
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>>734191787
Which just makes Zeno and Gideon look like utter retards. Because c'mon, but 5 year old nephew would've guessed the password.
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Resident Evil 4chan
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>>734190803
RE4 also didn’t need a remake but it’s a money printer and also a good opportunity to fit the series into the new standard vibe they’re going since RE7.
But going back to RE1 after 4 is a stretch. They’ll probably just go over to 5 and lump whatever retcons CV and 1 needed together to weave Nu-Wesker.
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>>734191125
>I've seen people argue that Grace has no relation to Emily and Chloe at all but that makes zero fucking sense.
It's the final word the game bothers giving us on the whole thing, so for now it's the fact of the matter. It does indeed make zero fucking sense, but that's par for the course with Requiem's absolute clusterfuck of a plot.
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>>734191131
Grace is not notable at all speedreader-kun. She is a completely normal, uninfected, uninfringed baby that Spencer adopted as a last dash to do something good in the world. He explicitly says so in the fucking interview. Gideon even comments that she and Grace have 0 relation. Earlier in the game when he takes your blood he also mentions it has nothing special about it.
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>>734191854
That's what happens when you get completely lost in the game of corporate BOW supervillainy
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>>734191854
They didn't believe anything other than chaos and destruction, so elpis being "hope" for humanity wasn't in their vocabulary
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>>734191769
It was built by umbrella, with all the umbrella logo and even a door that requires two umbrella balls to unlock. Even if they updated the computers and architecture, why have a floppy drive instead of just a usb hub? Cinematic flair?
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>Gideon and Zeno think Grace is special
>At the meta level players are confused why Grace isn't a special clone designer baby
K I N O
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>>734191876
>>734191787
In my headcanon opinion because requiem is written so sloppily, grace is a clone of specifically chloe but without any gene modification and no virus in her.

That's spencers atonement after seeing the video of chloe (the same one we play in the game)
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>>734191876
So he knew they weren't related via blood teats, and just kept that from Zeno just to fuck with him?
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>>734188839
He juat wanted to do a "Pandora's Box"
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>>734191876
"Grace is a clone" feels like headcanon to me.
Spencer flat out says Grace is completely normal and she's just a random orphan he found and adopted after Recoon City went down. So, that's two strikes against her being a clone.
Because why would he lie now?
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>>734189918
you were browsing tiktok during the cutscenes?
grace is not a clone, you retard
as the other anon said, shes just an orphan that he adopted
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>>734191685
>>734191662
>Next game has G-Virus/Mold/Plagas hybrids
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>>734192195
That's basically the C-virus in RE6
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>>734191787
It's a good thing she did, cause i thought it was gonna be Reqium
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>>734191787
>types in Hope
>password was actually hope with no capital letter

would have been so funny
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>>734188839
>Dude just mutate the shit out of people to improve humanity!
He was retarded
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>>734192379
It's actually H0p3, dumbo
Destruction initiated
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the whole underground section was so unnecessery
they could have just inserted the password the first time they were in there, but they decided to jump down to the waste pool instead??
only to climb back to the platform again
did they write the plot as they came up with new stupid shit?
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>>734192149
It's just an incredibly stupid red herring because the idea that Spencer just happened to adopt a child that looked very similar to Chloe and also that The Connections didn't have the resources and reach to figure out Grace birth mother is an even bigger reach. Grace being lab born but not connected to Elpis and just Spencer making a regular human makes more sense. There's also the infection stuff but I guess you just have to overlook shit like that at this point
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>>734190586
>Hispanic
since the Trump re-election they're looking at Hispanic as white-coded bigots because many of them voted for him to keep immigrants out
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>>734190498
i would say stay away from 5 and 6 if you like classic Resident Evil
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>>734189361

Various bioterrorist consortiums thought it was the winner takes all unobtanium of military tech, there were trillions of dollars and assured world domination on the line, so they went to extraordinary lengths to get it, not realising that it was basically a a dying old man's re7 finger puzzle
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>>734192737
I don't care about your politics, American.
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>>734192961
>they tarkov STALKERed themselves for nothing
lmao bozos
as funny as it is, bizzare to have a Spencer redemption arc
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>>734191054
Hispanic Means Spanish bud that’s what romans called Iberia technically Portuguese are Hispanic as well
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>>734192737
Wtf does people in Spain have to do with American politics
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>>734193105
Eh, Spencer was literally some offscreen character 90% of the time. He only gets any screentime in RE5.
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>>734193105
>bizzare to have a Spencer redemption arc
Yeah he's responsible for some of the darkest most insidious shit in gaming

Really doesn't track that he suddenly wants to buy the world a coke
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>>734191648
G is also a virus, a diferent strain from the T-virus. The parasites are diferent but I believe those also came from T-virus experimentation?
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>>734192981
>>734193189
point is that "you can't be racist against hispanics" in the same way that you can't be racist against white people
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>>734193329
his new characterisation only makes sense if he just didn't want other companies be succesfull with his work and thus made a "fuck you i am sabotaging your bioweapons" antiviral

and i think he will get dementia between the interview tales and resi 5
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>>734188839
Qrd on the story?
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>>734193454
Spencer: "I want to become a gooood"
Ok, old man, it's time for your pills
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>>734193562
It's kind of good if you squint hard enough but a bit retarded
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Why did /v/ say that Leon got deaged when it only got rid of his black spots? He looks exactly the same after taking elpis. Are you people genuinely retarded?
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>>734193653
Did you also believe in Sherry x leon pic?
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>>734193653
He looks 10 years younger in my opinion after the antiviral but people forget he was literally dying throughout the entire game with turboaids, ofcourse he looks better
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>>734193364
G is a seperate strain from T that originated from the Progenitor Virus.
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>>734193612
Watched few cutscenes with the helmet guy and really not weskers twin. Maybe it's me, but the animations seem worse than re4r. Might be a trend, as ts2 has much worse animations than ts1.
Why is Grace special? Why did umbrella old guy choose alyssa? Didn't hunk work for umbrella? Why is weskers clone weak af? Why is Chris never in time ever?
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>>734193757
The way I watched that scene with Gideon, it's a panacea for all kind of virus, no just the T-virus. Wesker didn't want a cure, he wanted more power.
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>>734191592
Prion obviously
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>>734193757
All bs, there are like 35 viruses or spores. Everytime Leon amc Chris have to regulate.
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>>734193757
Allegedly, Elpis counters every Progenitor virus.
Although, it's Resident Evil. Don't expect scientific logic from its story.
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>>734193847
prions are scarier than most resi diseases to be honest
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>>734191648
It's effective against all progenitor virus. As of yet all of them derived from progenitor including G and uroboros
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>>734193875
Does it heal cancer too?
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>>734193805
>Why is Grace special?
She isn't.
>Why did umbrella old guy choose alyssa?
Why not?
>hey lady, want a free kid?
>Why is weskers clone weak af?
Because he's AN IMITATION
>Why is Chris never in time ever?
That's our Leon!
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>>734193970
Sure, why not. It also cures Grace's autism.
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>>734193979
>Because he's AN IMITATION
But he wasn't weak though? The elpis got rid of all the Super Power in his body
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>>734193757
Every single monster virus in resident evil is from P virus
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>>734193364
>The parasites are diferent but I believe those also came from T-virus experimentation?
Nemesis, yes
Plagas, no
And the cadou, but no one cares about that
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>>734189361
What question? You're shown. Victor thinks Grace is the girl who escaped containment and released all the dead girls. Grace isn't, she's just a kid from the orphanage who wandered into the lab during the outbreak.
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>>734194392
>Grace isn't, she's just a kid from the orphanage who wandered into the lab during the outbreak.
?
That was chloe
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>>734193805
>Maybe it's me, but the animations seem worse than re4r
Nah it's not just you, animations are jank as fuck in this game
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>>734193209
that fucking guy, raccoon city
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>>734189897
bad twist makes gideon look like a retard
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>>734193562
- Evil old man creates a highly successful bioweapons company under the guise of a pharmaceutical corporation
- Said weapons are leaked and reverse-engineered around the world by competitors
- Competitors learn of new bioweapon developed by evil old man shortly before his death which will render all other bioweapons obsolete, which they assume means it's far more powerful
- They track down the evil old man's master lab but the new bioweapon is under lockdown via password
- They realise the only one who knows how to unlock it is the evil old man's adopted daughter who is missing
- Consortiums spend billions cloning her, implanting the clones with viruses which retain memory in the hopes of gaining the password, but they all die/turn into horrible mutations
- They eventually find the real daughter and make her unlock the new bioweapon, but it's actually a countervirus which neutralises/destroys all known bioweapons, theoretically ending the bioterror industry
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>>734193847
>one fucking misfold and it's all over since it will cause everything else to misfold
lmao what the FUCK
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>>734190062
they re just gonna make alyssa more retarded cause she is gonna do grace parts better
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>>734193847
Wait a second. I do get that errors are everywhere, but why does the error befell other proteins? Prion is neither virus nor alive.
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>Elpis gets introduced as the main countermeasure to fight virus outbreaks
>However it turns out ludicrously expensive to produce so they can only make limited amounts
>It ends up having a side effect that can be manipulated into a straight up incurable super virus that has all the nasties of every core T-Virus strain and the sister viruses like G, C, T-Abyss, T-Veronica, etc
>The Connections discover this and create the E-virus
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>>734190269
only to fight wesker cause it isnt parry slop or shoot head/weakpoint and run
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>>734193979
Wdym free kid? Grace is a clown?
>imitation
Sure, my bad
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>>734194529
Fuck. They didn't do the needful
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>>734193979
he got regeneration powers , man was dumb to inject elpis without research
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>>734194673
>- They realise the only one who knows how to unlock it is the evil old man's adopted daughter who is missing
That's grace?
>they mutate
Why? Are these the children and the blind child?
>they found her
Why does she know the password? Hard to believe that only a password can open a laboratory and billions of dollars are useless against the pw protected door.
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>>734194950
To be fair, he was under the assumption that Elpis was the perfected Prototype Virus
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>>734194708
>>734194734
It's physical contact by b-sheets. Think of a jelly fish touching an animal and it starts to spasm.
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>>734194916
re7 team i dunno what you expect when that game was also sloppy for a first person ( still i loved the two jack fights)
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>>734189596
How does he know Grace won’t grow up retarded?
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>>734195089
Because there's a decent chance she was a designer baby and not just a random he found
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Got stuck in the rpd and feel retarded, where the fuck should I go at first? Because only path ends in dead end
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>>734195045
Haven't played 7 or 8. Couldn't enjoy that jank.
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>>734194985
>Why does she know the password?
She doesn't. She figures the password out after seeing the tapes her adopted father who is also RE's Palpatine left her.
It's one of the more bullshit parts of the plot.
>Why? Are these the children and the blind child?
Yeah. They are also red herrings that have nothing to do with her. I guess they look similar to Grace to throw the players off.
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>>734194985
It’s not a password protected door it’s a computer program which self destructs if the wrong password is entered
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>>734194985
Yes Grace is Spencer's adopted daughter

They infuse the clones with the T-Virus because it has a memory-retaining side-effect, but the T-Virus is incredibly unstable, so the clones all turn into goo monsters

She knows the password beacuse her mother told her it, and it was told to her mother by Spencer

They got the bioweapon in a fancy machine which is instructed to delete/destroy it if anyone enters the wrong password, so they only get one shot at it
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>>734195463
Big bet that she runs across the interviews
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>>734195517
It honest to god feels like they rewrote parts of the story and forgot to rewrite earlier parts that will contradict the rewrites.
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>>734195543
I see. Idk why they thought that's a good story. Guess they wanted to appease nostalgia fags.
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>>734195653
Devs rewrite stories all the time and it never works out story can be done in like two days by a single person.
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>>734189964
You are getting clones mixed up. The girls in the flashback are their own thing. The clones of Grace are Emily and the hag
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>>734188839
A few months later in RE5 he gets out of his sad sack mood and goes back to cackling villian
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>>734195653
I do like this story. I feel like "Grace is a superspecial good BOW that will save the world" is stupidly cheesy and played out.
Grace just being a random girl that has nothing to do with anything and the bad guys being waaaay off base with their theories before being literally defeated by weaponized hopium is a fun twist.
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>>734189361
didnt she literally get bit at the start and had absolutely no symptoms? something doesnt add up here
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>>734188839
>I need a vessel for my consciousness and memories to live in forever
>Hmmm yes a tiny vulnerable girl will do nicely
What did he mean by this?
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>>734195850
>The clones of Grace are Emily and the hag
Gideon outright says there is no connection between Grace and Emily. Emily was just Gideon's attempt to continue that mind transfer project from the 1990, because he thought it was successful. He mistook Grace for a successful specimen, when in reality, she wasn't a specimen to begin with.
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>>734191892
I thought Grace was literally the first successful Elpis recipient
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>>734195850
The hag isn't alyssa??
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>>734196046
That's the weird part that points to a rewrite. But I just assume Gideon simply cured her. It's not as if other protagonists weren't bitten throughout the games. But that's my headcanon.
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>>734196049
Mind transfer? This is taking kh2 levels of convolution.
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>>734196046
why not
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>>734196146
Pretty sure it was Claire's mutated form
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>>734196196
That's literally what Temu Wesker thought Elpis was.
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>>734196146
Nope.
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>>734195517
Grace just being a literally who adopted daughter honestly requires more mental gymnastics.

>Spencer somehow managed to find an orphan who looks extremely similar to an Umbrella subject girl who died a decade prior
>The literal illuminati of the Resident Evil world somehow just took for granted that this girl was created by Spencer because adoption papers
>Nobody learns the truth until Gideon does a DNA test (a very simple fucking procedure) and decided to just keep this hidden from Zeno

It's Convenient the plot, you could have literally just have her be an Umbrella tube baby but just a regular human not related to Elpis and the story works much better. It feels like the writers just wanted to be clever with "Oh, you thought it was gonna be more special bloodline shit? It ISN'T even though this just makes all the villains seem retarded hyuckhyuckhyuckhyuck"
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>>734196283
Lol. Temu wesker is among the worst things I ever saw in vidya.
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There are only two outcomes to Elpis coming into the fold
>It's either extremely hard to produce/extremely costly so they can only make a limited amount, to which the Connections take advantage of it and try to discredit it as placebo
>The group that gets given the go-ahead to make it(A Connections affiliate) IMMEDIATELY releases B.O.Ws in multiple countries after they make a large quantity and extorts them for it and become the new Umbrella only borderline untouchable because they handle the cure and don't let anyone else touch it
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>>734196146
Nope it's Marie. Emily's 'sister'
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>>734196334
>Spencer somehow managed to find an orphan who looks extremely similar to an Umbrella subject girl who died a decade prior
"Blonde girl" is a very common trait, actually.
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>>734196284
Where is it stated in the game? Or do people just know?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kOlDs0DIwA
>Wait 15 minutes in one specific room
Off to a great start.
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>>734196387
You forgot the third outcome
>Elpis is forgotten and its implications for the setting are never addressed
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If Victor needed Grace, whether he believes she was special or to keep stringing Zeno along, why did he put her life in danger multiple times like at the very beginning by pointlessly infecting a cop that could've blasted her right there?
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>>734196334
To be fair, Grace is Spencer's adopted daughter. If there is one man who has the power and resources to keep her hidden, it's him.
And yeah, Gideon trolling Temu Wesker about how special Grace is, when he knew better the whole time sounds like something he would do. Also, he's a Nemesis, be grateful he can speak coherent sentences.
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>>734190381
However without coop it's just as bad as 6, arguably even boredom since the AI is actively detrimental.
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>>734196619
Well, it's Grace that keeps running away.
Also, otherwise, we wouldn't have a game.
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>>734196496
Did you not notice the hole and the doll in the cell next to Emily?
Or the pile of dolls she put her next to in the basement?
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Actually, now that I think about it. Elpis would be useless on later strains of the T-Virus such as the T-Abyss and C-virus due to them being further developed and the extra shit in them. If anything, Elpis would course cascading mutations because the T-Virus is the 'stabiliser' in both
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>>734196701
She would have made her way up to him in the hotel regardless.
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>>734192630
>Spencer just happened to adopt a child that looked very similar to Chloe
That's why he adopted that child specifically if anything.
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>>734196436
There's a resemblance, lol. Explains why she plays with Grace's body.
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>>734196739
No, haven't played the game, just watched some cutscenes. I don't think it's a good game/resident evil. I'd rather have comic re like re4 or 5.
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>>734196847
>adopted
The wiki said Grace is Spencer biological daughter
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>>734196967
Wiki is wrong
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>>734196967
Play the game, retard.
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>>734196967
Dude was like 80 at that point
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Why's the helmet guy so strong
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Of course an angloid reflex on what he did...typical.
Eternal anglo
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>>734197347
Sex isn't the only way for procreation, specially for that guy. He could take his sperm and inplant it in an egg.
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>>734196919
>I'd rather have comic re like re4 or 5.
What are you even talking about
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How did Gideon not creep up his fellow researchers and staff?

He's a 7'0 Tyrant with pale white skin and fucked up teeth.
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>>734197453
He's the Nemesis.
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>>734197837
He looked fine on photos
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So what the fuck did Gideon want?
He knew Grace wasn't special, what was the point of hyping her up?
Why would elpis cause anarchy?
What the fuck was he even researching
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>>734197837
Looks scary but has a brilliant mind kinda deal.
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>>734197814
Re4 and 5 feel like marvel comics, like Chris, a typical bloke, hitting a boulder.
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>>734197837
No one knows what a tyrant is (should be a plot hole after re4 and re6 but eh) and Gideon paid well. You can find notes from the staff talking about how he's weird.
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Why is commander guy such a jobber
Why is umbrella corps team even in the game and backs him up, when it doesn't have umbrella
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>>734197910
I think he believed she knew the code and that's it. That or piss porr rewrites, seeing as he went from insisting she was the key to saying she wasn't out of nowhere.
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How much do I have to conserve when playing Leon?
Do I barely kill shit or am I full blasting everyone and everything like it's RE456
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>>734191592
7 was all about the fungus family, remember?
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>>734197980
Blast blast blast
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>>734197910
He wanted his master Legacy. I believe Grace is special. The game omit it tho. If all viruses in the world get cured, it will cause bacteria to develop super fast without cure, and the viruses in the sea what make oxigen would die, creating a mankind extinction event unavoidable.
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>>734197980
Always shoot walls and the sky in Raccoon City so the adaptive difficulty dials down.

With Grace just miss a couple of shots if you have surplus ammo.
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>>734197910
>So what the fuck did Gideon want?
Spencer's final masterpiece(thinking it'll be cool bow)
>Why would elpis cause anarchy?
Entire america's army is build around using BOWs. Elipis can end it all in seconds, imagive massive sectors in world economy just disappearing.
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>>734198042
It's typical Capcom chud writing. Most likely Spencer meant viruses as in man made, not natural.
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>>734197980
From halfway through RC on was just shotty and rifle for me, with the occasional revolver on bosses, and melee prompts obviously. Blast everything.
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>>734197837
He's nice when you get to know him actually
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So why does Elpiss work or all the strains that had decades to mutant and grow?
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>>734198176
Yeah he seems like a chill dude to work for until he goes schizo and infects his entire staff with the t virus. Just gotta make sure you hand in your 2 weeks notice before then.
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>>734198075
You forget how all started. Gideon believe blood is the key to pass conciousness or knowledge between bodies. He wanted to do that, maybe he wanted Spencer knowledge. He thought Grace as the daughter, her blood was the key. He didn't gave a fuck for Wesker seek of power. When he and Wesker realised Spencer true intention, he thought it was brillant. No one espected a panacea, taking everyone as a fool for believe it was something else.
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>>734198057
explain what do you mean adaptive difficulty
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I feel like in typical Capcom inspiration fashion, Blade Runner 2049 inspired this story with the whole "guy is lead to believe hes the chosen one but isnt really" thing. There's even a place that looks like this in the ARK lab before the final area
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>>734189770
>Grace is the original,
no. The cloning little girls program was separate from grace. The Connections thought she was part of that program but she wasn't.
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>>734198375
If you're winning too much the game buffs existing enemies and will shit out more blisterheads to fuck you up.

Missing shots and getting hit in every few encounters ensure you don't hit the highest difficulty.
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>>734193410
Hispanic is a ethnicity of white people dumb ass white is a race English Spanish Irish Italian etc are ethnicitys
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>>734198535
She just looks suspiciously similar.. riiiiiight.
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>>734198545
Interesting. I am noticing an annoying amount of blister heads. Probably 1 or 2 more than there would hopefully be.
Is this actual fact or is it anecdotal? I can see it being real
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why do people say RE5 and RE6 isn't canon anymore when Leon straight up tells Sherry she can go back to the field in the ending
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>>734198770
All modern RE and REmakes introduced this since RE2make.
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>big 2026
>people still care about RE lore
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>>734198953
Where the fuck did you see that? No shit they're canon.
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4 ink ribbons and 7 empty tins left, and I'm at the isolation ward
How am I doing
Should I kill chunk before I finish this
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>>734199090
kys faggot. You had your turn with shitcord and shitguard. Don't worry, we'll shit to your next attempt of a "good game" whenever it come out.
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>>734198770
>Is this actual fact or is it anecdotal?
Since decade ago, to make game more "interesting" the better you play the harder game gets.
crimson heads spawn is static, but just like with normal zombie, if you landed many headshots, their hp goes way up, so in all fights always take them out first
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>>734199282
You don't have to, unless you have resources to spare and REALLY want that charm/achievement.
IMO, killing the cook would be more beneficial, because he has cool shit in his pantry.
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>>734199282
Yes, before going to basement you need to kill east singer, chunk and cook, or you lock yourself out of loot and challenge points
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>>734197908
He genuinely does not. He looks the same as his regular ingame appearance just without the metal headplate. Fucked up hair, white as snow face.
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>>734198487
Capcom has been ripping off movies since forever. They're still glazing that fucking lazer hallway from the first cheezy resident evil movie, they put it in like 4 fucking games since then.
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>>734199329
schizo
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>>734195653
60 pages of a monkey jew in crack overdose
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>>734189321
I need you to read this https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Spencer%27s_Memoirs_1 word by word, and very slowly.
Can you do it for me?
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>>734199426
i still remember first max payne did it and it was rng dogshit sometimes shotguns oneshotting other it does almost 0 damage
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>>734198994
it was 4 thats why godhand was mikami cranking up that system and melee
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>>734197347
Did not stop Bernie Eclestone.
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>>734195706
The game has massive signs of dev hell and restarted developement everywhere.
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>>734193653
>Why did /v/ say that Leon got deaged
Because he got deaged.

>it only got rid of his black spots?
You are blind.

>He looks exactly the same after taking elpis.
You are very blind actually.

>Are you people genuinely retarded?
I have terrible news for you about yourself, and you're not going to like them.
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>>734191592
It's just a bioterrorism industry reset, Elpis isn't future proof

Also it only counters bioweapons created by Umbrella and those reverse-engineered from leaked/stolen Umbrella technologies, so Plagas and Mold are still potentially out there

>>734191624
Probably this, some Andromeda Strain-style scenario is most likely going to factor into the series at some point
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>>734196146
https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Marie
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>>734202036
Its literally the same guy?
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>>734198953
>why do people say RE5 and RE6 isn't canon anymore
I don't know what the arguments against RE6 are (besides the game being bad and people just not wanting to associate it with the series ofc), but for RE5 there's obviously the Spencer stuff.
(Wait for the RE5R where they'll probably rewrite things here and there to connect it with RE9 better.)
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>>734202190
>>734202036
>You are blind.
>You are very blind actually.
Tip: Look at his entire face in pictures 1 and 2 vs 3.
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>>734198994
>>734198770
>All modern RE and REmakes introduced this since RE2make.
It's been a thing since Og RE4, actually.
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Just finished the game a few questions
>Who killed graces mother?
>Why is grace not more protected from death by various factions if she's so important?
>Why did they only decide to capture grace at that point in time?
>Why was Grace so difficult to capture?
>Why is Leon mere days from death at the beginning of the game but doesn't really have a sense or urgency, does his condition get worse for some reason during the game?
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>>734202036
What the hell is Sherry going to look like after he gives her the dose?
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>>734195541
Which you would think would get them to put some money towards the best hacker or safe cracker in the world to get a work around instead of trying to create little girl clones that kill all their PhD genetecists. Hell, try to find the guy who set the whole thing up, assuming Spencer didn't George Trevor his ass.
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>>734201973
the retarded director said they wanted to make a leon game but they are too stupid to give leon tvirus cancer and nerf his stupid anime performance for an horror game
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>>734202696
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>734188839
I swear to god they added the clone story plot to shut the one guy who was obsessed with Clone Chris up. You know the one, the guy who fucked up the development of Revelations so badly they had to reboot the game and the RE7 DLC so badly they had to reboot that and push it back a whole year, all because he was obsessed with pushing Clones.
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>>734198953
Simmons isn't the one who nuked city anymore
Family aren't a thing anymore
Wesker's son having vaccine inside his blood not a thing anymore
Sherry being active agent not a thing
Leon wanting to fuck Ada not a thing since re2 remake
Raccoon City is not the only big outbreak in franchise

Not sure what they changed about re5 though
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>>734202813
nakanishi? that guy should be put down like a retarded baby in spartan times
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>>734202823
spencer gave elpis to wesker anal bloodstream and caused his downfall like zeno probably uroboros decapitate his head
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>>734202696
>>Who killed graces mother?
Random assassin, there a file about it in clinic
>Why did they only decide to capture grace at that point in time?
Because she mostly stayed coped in the fbi building, file about it too, maybe even the same

Anyway, it's resident evil so story is dumb and doesn't make sense
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Is the Matilda IMP thing worth the points?
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>>734202823
Even Capcom realized The Family was the stupidest fucking thing they ever came up with so they reconned them out of existence. Literally the only time they've ever admitted they messed up.

>>734202876
He'll never get fired. He's been there too long and he's probably buddies with one of the higher ups.
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>>734202991
Yeah I know about that she only works and goes home. Still a retarded excuse when you have a nemisis ready to snatch her.
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>>734198953
I think a lot of people want RE6 to be treated like a non canon spin off. Nobody liked the game and it literally almost killed the series for good.
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>>734203238
>so they reconned them out of existence.
Nope, re9 still referers to them, they only retconned part about them being behind nuking
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>>734191808
That's just Resident Evil Five
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>>734203238
damn the rotchilds really wanted that shit retconned KEK
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>>734190269
5 and 6 are not bad games at all. They are legitimately good. Resident Evil 6, being long as shit, has a handful of bad levels and ideas, but its good overall.

Both of these were clearly riding the trends at the time. Resident Evil 5 is Gears of War as fuck, but they aren't bad and I hate this meme. Both better than 7 I will die on this hill.
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>>734191808
at this rate evil twitter gonna make a viral tweet turning people into aggresive coleric infected zombies , japs devs really hate twitter hate post and leaks and if mikami was directing resident evil this shit could happen
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>>734204027
i mean kamiya KEK
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>>734203850
6 gets way more shit than it deserves. It was overly ambitious and a clusterfuck of events told non-sequentially, but its not bad by any stretch. Maybe a few too many action set-pieces, and Jake not getting a proper "hey, go punch the shit out of enemies" section until his campaign is halfway over, but everyone's creaming themselves over 9 like it doesn't have a retarded on rails motorcycle section, so whatever.
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>>734200374
Debunked since they made him have a daughter and start regretting everything.
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>>734205036
its impressive alyssa fucked on purpose that old creep and forgive him about memory loss and having a daughter with him
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>>734205168
Stop the meme porn
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>>734188839
why not just make catgirls or sexbots?
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>>734205352
He wanted to live forever, what's the point if he can't enjoy all that?
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>>734205328
resident evil was always meme porn since the live action intro of psx and jill sucking parasite spider cocks in 3 demake you faggots cringing about leon doing a leonardo dicapiro like move or wesker wanting to fuck rebecca or underage romanian whores like jake mom are funny and ironic
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>>734190062
>Answers being saved for later
Oh no no I've played revelations1/2
I'm good with answers
Fun games
Stupid fun plots
But answers always fail to land
Reeks of "I, mold mommy, remember that young starry eyed Oswald, I hope he's doing aight with his viral research" haberdashery
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>Villain plainly explains that in a world of BOW warfare having access to the anti-BOW drug would basically make him a god because he could just disarm anyone
>This MGS tier villain concept is apparently too complex for a ton of people even though deterrence is a concept a fucking grade schooler should be able to understand

It saddens me how retarded the average RE fan is
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>>734188839
cringe and retarded he should wesker himself as the director and writer of this dogshit
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>>734205828
This from the fan base that thinks RE has always been only scary and never hilariously campy
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>>734205828
its because bows will never be metal gear tier shit when a cop with a revolver can destroy all of them, only weapon capabilities are as way to nerf wesker and his clones like shown with zeno
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>>734196512
I'm waiting for the non datamine solution that I can only assume will be less insane.
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>>734204329
I for one like the gameplay and the mechanics
I hate the arcadey lost planet system and the arcadey graphics
But the game is fun and no game js as fun coop as re6
Also the plot may meander but the gameplay never drags
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>>734205828
It's dumb because RE BOWs can be taken out with just conventional means unless you can make not wesker tier bows

Or mold. That's like the one BOW related thing I could see be a real problem if it was militarized
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>>734188839
Japan loves their villain redemption stories, no matter how retarded and unearned.
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>>734206134
nah coop sucks specially jake part with snowbikes being almost softlocked bugged with the avalanche caught you almost 100%
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>>734205828
how is he a villain then? go ahead and disarm every terrorist, thanks.
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>>734206034
>its because bows will never be metal gear tier shit
Lorewise they basically have been since Code Veronica, the Connections is essentially RE's version of The Patriots. Also Snake is just a dude who's able to take out giant Metal Gears and people with superpowers too.
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>>734206231
man two nukes wasnt enough its almost humilliation ritual
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>>734206309
no tyrant can shoot a bioweapon nuke from alaska to china
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>>734206231
I'd argue he was hardly redeemed and nobody was going "I guess spencer wasn't the literal worst afterall" it was more about the hilairious misunderstanding of what Elpis was, cos I guess none of these motherfuckers know the greek classics well enough.
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>>734206382
>no tyrant can shoot a bioweapon nuke from alaska to china
the concept of a tank on legs that can shoot nukes being the ultimate weapon is also fucking stupid, but video games
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>>734206253
I dunno the 4 people I've done that part with laughed at the jankiness of the snow bikes
Which laughter is the opposite of unfun
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>>734188839
I liked it and that they kept his redemption in the eyes of the player. They presented it very neutrally instead of trying to push that Spencer wasn't actually all that bad or something similar
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>>734202036
he still has his wrinkles and stuff
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>>734206679
>Be vague
>Introduce a new problem for established characters
>Resolve with conveniently located solution within hours of its introduction
>Be as vague as a fromsoft writer
>Bravo for letting the player form their own takeaway
That's not clever or satisfying but it does feel tacked on
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>>734192149
But didn't Victor do tests to confirm Grace was what they were looking for? We get the results of those test too that show she matches. What was she matching?
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>>734196334
They also have Grace's panic attack have all the shaky camera and flashback stuff implying she is literally reliving Chloe's memories. But that was just her having a normal panic attack, they just wanted to swerve us into thinking it was the blood memory stuff?
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It doesn't make any sense for this guy to go completely against his goals in life. To go to such extremes, he's a sociopath, he's not going to suddenly feel remorse because he realized he doesn't hate kids, or something. The explanation for it is really flimsy.
It was pretty clear to me that Spencer was implying to Alyssa's mother that he had a change of heart and that Elpis was the result of this, but I chose destruction because I just don't buy it and assumed he had to be lying.
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>>734207006
Victor's a Spencer fanboy, he interprets any problems or discrepancy as Spencer doing some sort of 500IQ move.
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>>734207006
Wait for the sequel re9illage where she was dead all along and just a giant walking viral antibody
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>>734207182
Re10, "ozwell'd" aka re- a virus story involving the biohazards of past, present, and future that make spencer have a change in heart
His evil monologue was a misremembering by wesker suffering from unreliable narration
Also it was all misunderstanding and wesker was a good guy all along and Morgan Lansdale is freed from prison
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>>734206267
>america is terrorist state because they use bow
go back to your muslim shithole
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>>734206679
Its mostly just Grace being a retard who never saw the "right to become a god" cut scene. She's all "Spencer regretted it in the end!" because she saw a baby video where' he wasn't acting like a senile lunatic bent on evolutionary ascension via body theft technology.

>>734207151
I get the feeling the game was supposed to have more of an "inject blood, get a flashback" sort of mechanic, the idea being they could take her to Elpis and shoot her up with Spencer's blood or some shit to learn the password, and all the little girls were attempts to create another girl who could do that sort of thing. Maybe something in there about Spencer doing some body snatching via infected blood transfusion similar to whatever the fuck was going on in Revelations 2.
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>>734207268
It was clearly suggested that Ethan was molded before Village came out. For fucks sake, his hand gets cut entirely off, Zoe just staples it back on, and then he can use it just fine. He has a conversation with the Bakers in the mold consciousness. Crazy that some people still think that Ethan being molded was a retcon.
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>>734188839
>Creates a clone so that she may live a normal life that he entrusts with his final BOW juice
he didn't do this
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>>734207619
Terragrigia was an inside job
Sunlight melts steel beams
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>>734189746
Rebecca gets bitten in a cutscene in Zero and is just fine. Sometimes capcom just doesn't care about this shit
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>>734207536
who said anything about america? bows have only been used by terrorists and madmen in RE and they caused nothing but misery to the world.
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>>734206750
I'm convinced that the reason why so many people thought he deaged 20 years is because the initial leak was from the tendie2 version. Playing at max settings on PC I can clearly see wrinkles and gray stubble, he looks healthier but not significantly younger.
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>>734207978
It is kinda crazy that they only get used for terrorism shit. Imagine how good a group of Tyrant construction workers would be. They could build a house in a fuckin day.
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>>734207182
>Be "The ends justify the means!" eugentics sociopath
>Reach end of life
>Dream of immortality is dead
>See all the damage you've caused
>See everything you've worked for your entire life gone to shit
>All your life work is getting stolen by third parties using it for themselves
>Have your final acts be one of altruism and kindness, because that's the one thing nobody expects of you
>Basically a final "fuck you" to all the parasites leeching of you, and possibly some peace of mind

IDK, it's kind of kino, somebody mentioned Bladerunner earlier and it kind of has that Roy Batty death scene vibe. It's not redemption, but it's something. This retcon was one I didn't mind.
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>>734207978
Not really, just a game ago Chris friends used them fine for fucking clean ups. And even before that it was said many times that all countries have some
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>>734207976
T-virus only starts working if you experience extreme trauma. If you don't it gets obliterated by your immune system after a couple of days. That was the lore in the original RE1-3 timeline.
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>>734188839
Didn't this guy still own a bunch of properties around the world with torture dungeons and laboratories running human experiments till the day he died
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>>734208272
I didn't mind it either I just mind that it's so poorly told
Resident Evil's writers have an obsession with twists which means nothing in the story makes sense until fans piece it together
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>>734208397
Wasn't it related to extreme fear or something
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>>734207182
It's not that much of remorse
He just literally looked at what happened in raccoon city and decied that "yeah, that shit obviously doesn't work"
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>>734207761
I didn't play vii but let's not pretend your perfectly run of the mill RE fan such as myself, wasn't prepared to accept that at face value
After all you spend a consumable limited resource to fix the problem
Our suspension of belief goes quite far
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>>734189843
Lickers apparently go for 14 million. Seems like a ripoff for something that can be killed in like 3 shots from a 12 gauge
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>>734208624
that's the virus in Rev2, T-Phobos
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>>734208651
>Mr. X tyrant line costs $120 million per unit
>For the cost of several dozen M1 Abrams tanks you can get a kind of strong guy in a trenchcoat that can be taken down by a skilled human agent wielding a hatchet

What is the business plan here
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>>734208404
Are you going to charge an old man for the things he forgot about? How heartless.
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>>734188839
>playing through insanity
>pretty bullshit mode, lots of hard parts, feels almost impossible without the bonus items
>in the basement now and at that part where you have to use the molotov to get rid of Marie muching on a corpse
>mfw she's immune to it
>insta kill me and lose 30 minutes of progress.
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>>734208792
Not to mention that even if they sold ten of them that's not nearly enough to keep ARK going, it's not like there were armies of Mister X out there
And who the fuck would buy a Licker
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>>734208874
>to get rid of Marie muching on a corpse
When it is
Don't remember it on classic
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>>734191854
Zeno jabbed himself without knowing what it really does. of course he is.
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>>734208874
Insanity is a meme difficulty, if you MUST finish it just do a casual playthru in four hours without meds then w+m1 thru insanity with an infinite magnum
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>>734208935
in the room with the electrified water
have to go around another way and push a box through a fence
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>>734208792
>>734208651
Not everyone in the RE universe has Leon's plot armor and protagonist aura. If you release the licker in that one bit with the elite guards, it will absolutely dunk all of them without requiring you to do a thing.
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>>734191854
There are a ton of zoomers on tiktok who, despite the spoonfeeding, still destroyed Elpis and cried they got the bad ending so I don't think you should ever underestimate how stupid people are
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>>734207976
Kamiya I think explained it best when asked
"Why doesn't the hero get sick"
And his answer was
"Because he's the hero"
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>>734208874
You can literally just wait. She only munches on it for like twenty seconds.
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>>734209064
i didn't know that, i used the molotov first time in Classic
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>>734208584
>"I wish Spencer well whatever he ends up doing" said Miranda
>Also random inspiration for the umbrella logo for no reason
It's true they're obsessed
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>>734209001
You do realize in many of the games, we literally see the aftermath of npcs versus tyrants and lickers, right? In RE3 you can find a squad of marines dead.. but also a squad of tyrants killed by them in the same area.
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>>734208996
Huh, she just eats corpse and begins patrol, so it's pretty simple
Thought it was after you going back from conveyor, was the only time I felt there actual need to scare her with molotov, and mostly because I'm retarded and genuinely couldn't think about any other way
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>>734209139
That whole segment read like fan fiction kek
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>>734208849
I mean Chris and Leon and the rest certainly would never forgive him for anything. His actions ruined countless lives and altered their's forever.
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>>734209262
i think i know the part you meant, she jumps down after you take the power plug near the forklift.
For me i just put the plug back and the lights scare her away.
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>>734208989
As a 3R enjoyer myself it worked like this
>Beat game natty on normal
>Do all the tedious frustrating challenges on casual
>Beat the escalating difficulties with all the tools the game gives you
It's not that hard to figure out and I'm wondering why people would subject themselves to super masochism without having first cleared the challenges so you're just playing for the challenge, and not to clear a bunch of stacked BS in one stressful run
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>>734209348
Leon just stood and watched nurse being killed, why should anyone care about what he thinks
>>734209379
Yeah, now I feel even more retarded
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Did people really like hide and seek in the orphanage in RE2R so much they did it again.
but at least that one had "it's all over now! Door's
L O C K E D"
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>>734209042
They probably think you're dumb for trusting the word of the psychotic bioweapons merchant. The game gives you no other "spoonfeeding".
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>>734209271
Yeah
So did
>boulder punching asshole
>Fatass randomly quoting the mysterious merchant and saying "just something an old friend used to say
Like just stop
Viii is more depressing the more I think about it
By comparison I strong armed a friend into playing Rev2 and he was giddy with excitement when Natalia said "my parents died in terragrigia"
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>>734209409
RE7 Madhouse, RE2make hardcore, and RE4make professional are real, legitimate tests of the player's skill in managing the game's systems. They can realistically be beaten on a fresh save file provided the player has a basic mastery of how the game works.

RE3make Inferno, RE8 village of shadows, and RE9 Insanity are meme difficulties that are designed around grinding out infinite ammo and bonus items then w+m1ing through them with an infinite magnum, made that way in order to obfuscate that they don't have any actual replay value.
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>>734209042
I destroyed Elpis because I promised Leon I'd do it
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>>734209425
The cutscene for the nurse scene frames it that the doctor was hiding the chainsaw and Leon had no time to react when the nurse got gored. Its retarded but thats what they were going for
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>>734208312
not a country, the bsaa used them and it will probably be revealed that it's some villain behind it.
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>>734209524
If I was a character in-universe, I would not trust Ozwell Spencer at his word. But as an audience viewing a piece of media they are very obviously doing a hamfisted redemption arc for Spencer
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>>734208792
Infiltration and assassinations I guess. At least Tyrants are a little harder to take out for an average person. Nothing justifies that price for a Licker though, who needs those?
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>>734209348
He said he's sorry. Case dismissed.
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>>734208989
Its been pretty fun though now, really had to strategize even more now. Its also funny because on Classic, i basically wiped out most of the zombies and going back as Leon it was funny seeing all the carnage unfolded and Leon had an easy time going through it.
But i couldn't afford to do that in Insanity and so most of the zombies were around this time, only now finding out Leon had one liners for the special zombies like the singer and chef.
Also look at how traumatized she is.
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>>734209001
Might as well ditch most bioweapon lines and go for MGS cloning of RE protagonists
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>>734209713
It's not obvious though. They show things in this game that make him obviously an irredeemable person, then they give you a 10 second vague quote from him about being regretful that could easily just be ego driven PR fluff because he's at the end of his life and talking to a reporter.
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>>734209636
They aren't meme difficulties just because they "require" unlocks
Hell even in 3 they tell you as much when you select the greater difficulties
Just because its not a fresh natty save doesn't mean it doesn't work when played as the designed intended, just means you can't read or understand developer intent
>How dare the devs force me to use the fun unlockables
Not that if fucking matters because the best gun for the job in inferno vs final nemesis is the fucking triple shot
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>>734209638
Leon said he trusted Grace's judgment. If you actually trusted Leon you'd trust his faith in Grace
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>>734209856
I don't find w+m1ing through an alleged survival horror game with an infinite magnum because you can't pass the DPS check otherwise to be compelling gameplay
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>>734188839
based twist
I just wish they kept the movie action just in the movies
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>>734205828
>Leon proceeds to kill him, a B.O.W., with some guns and a fucking hand axe
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How does 7 and 8 tie to this shit?
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>>734207976
>>734208397
10% of the population is naturally immune
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I destroyed Elpis my first playthrough because it never occurred to me it wouldn't be a bioweapon even with Spencer's whole speech to Alyssa, and releasing it just sounded like an obvious bad ending. Capcom rused me good and made me feel retarded, I promptly then got the good ending afterward
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>>734202696
>why did they only decide to capture grace at that point in time?
BSAA and different organizations were meddling in Raccoon City, it's mentioned by Sherry
There were also 4 other bodies before Grace was sent to investigate the hotel, so they could've been bait as well
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>>734210023
First of all the magnum isn't all that great in inferno
Second of all even if it was the game gives you a rocket launcher unlock
3rd of all it isn't even the best option for beating the game
Fuck not beating the game, I don't even think you played it
Re7 and 8 are awful to replay though
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>>734210107
The Connections are mentioned
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>>734210107
The only connection is The Connections
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>>734210161
yea you're basically the same as Zeno and Victor Gideon. Could never think Spencer grew a conscience
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>>734210107
Barely. I don't know why they bothered calling it 9
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>>734210107
>Inb4 Miranda was a good guy all along
>Donna B was a good girl all along
>MOMMY D was a good mommy all along
>Heisenberg was actually a figment of the imagination and never existeD
>Frogger was always real
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>>734210161
I got the good ending just by knowing greek
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>>734188839
>>>Nope she's literally just a normal girl that he simply entrusted an anti-BOW vax with as a final fuck you

She has to have something special since she gets bitten and doesn't turn. We know the conversion rate on this refined T-Virus is super quick since I doubt Gideon darted EVERYONE in the first Leon section.
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>>734210107
Building up the Connections as the new big bad
Basically what Chris has been trying to deal with in the shadows since they got big ties with the government and other organizations like the BSAA.
You even see the DSO got their hands tied when Sherry was told to drop the investigation.
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>>734210107
The Connections, the criminal syndicate that funded Mother Miranda and created Eveline, is retroactively revealed to be behind pretty much every single bad thing that ever happened to the franchise. They bribed James Marcus to try to get their hands on the T-Virus (which led to Spencer assassinating him in retaliation), they were behind Raccoon City getting bombed in order to hide the ARK and seize Umbrella's assets, and had the President assassinated and Tall Oaks bombed in 6 in order to hide their involvement in Raccoon City's destruction.

Also Chris' squad from Village shows up at the very end just so the audience remembers Chris exists
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>>734210251
They didn't
They're so ashamed of it being mainline if it's poorly enough received they can make a real RE9 so they called it requiem
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>>734210382
Fair enough yeah, knowing that godess' MO would definitely clue you in onto what is supposed to be the right choice
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>>734210428
hi good morning sir
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>>734210107
The connections shit started with those games.
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>>734196046
I saw little boy clones in one of the images as well.
Expected there to be a report explaining the switch to females only later on, but nah.
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>>734210249
Gideons fully on board once he figures out what Elpis is though. Dude was a Spencer glazer till the end
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>>734210428
in both the trailers and the game the q in Requiem turns into a 9 showing RESIDENT EVIL RE9UIEM
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>>734210383
>She has to have something special since she gets bitten and doesn't turn.
The protagonist doesn't get sick in RE
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>>734210796
It happens in a cutscene so it's canon she gets bitten. Gameplay is non-canon.
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>>734188839
You know i have to say something, this has been fun. There's been so many threads some shit on the game endlessly sure but some do enjoy it but what i especially like the the discussions surrounding the lore now.
Everyone is now discussing the implications, The Connections, Spencer's twist, Chris and his Wolf squad, Not Wesker and what his deal is, Leon now married.
Like it or not with what they did with the lore and retcons and stuff, Capcom really got people taking about the game again, when the lore talks has been pretty stale for years now. It has all been pretty fun and interesting to talk about again.
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>>734210781
I'm aware of that
But no one ever calls it 9 when Capcom talks about it so I'm saying they can play it both ways and play it off as a prequel to 9 if they so choose since they've been vague enough
Although I admit 8 was embarrassing enough that they should have done that then too
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>>734210672
yeah but even he couldn't predict Spencer making the ultimate cure.
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>>734210472
I didn't have to know about the godess, elpis literaly means hope. my options were destroy hope or release hope. pretty shrimple.
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>>734210796
>>734210851
Also Leon is fucking infected with long T-Virus, what the fuck are you talking about?

And after getting the last Joint Plug she falls into a whole fucking pool of Infected Blood and says, "I got it in my mouth." She's literally rolling in it and doesn't get infected.
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>>734210851
>Gameplay is non-canon
This theory is retarded
I forget what the context was, but I'm 90% sure it was kamiya saying when he was getting a feel for what direction to take RE2 he asked someone like Mikami or it came up to him and the and the answer internally is that "the main character doesn't get sick, there's no reason past that"
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>>734210951
Hope is a subjective word. Hope for Spencer can mean the hope for immortality.
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>>734202036
Kek, every fucking time with you retards that don't understand how lighting and angle can make you perceive people differently
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zombie girl panties
that is all
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>>734210382
Explain for the retarded like me
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Grace probably got vaxxed with Elpis when she was young which is why she didn't turn
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>>734205828
Headcanon + we dom't know anything about warfare in the RE world, the world clearly condemns the use of BOWs (which has only been used by terrorists and criminals) so it doesn't make sense for them to be used in wars.
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>>734211019
Also the human eye can't perceive more than 69 fps
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If we get a DLC like the Not a Hero from RE7 it will probably clear lots of questions so it's pointless to doscuss it now
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>>734211012
that's true but I saw the twist from the moment the first trailer dropped, with all the "mystery" around elpis

>>734211197
>>734210951
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>>734211105
hot
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>>734211235
We literally see them getting used in warfare in the Damnation movie
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>>734211518
Movies are not canon
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>>734211359
I'm just annoyed they haven't confirm anything yet. I really hope we get some information in that Capcom spotlight on the 5th
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>>734211568
The CGI movies are, RE6 shows soldiers willingly injecting themselves with C-virus too, BOW's being used in warfare has been the meta in the universe for a long time now
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>>734211609
>Re9iueum did well thanks guys
>People hate mhwilds less thanks guys
>Buy onimusha pls
Thank you capcom
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>>734211913
>RE6 shows soldiers willingly injecting themselves with C-virus
it's a terrorist group
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>>734211913
>RE6 shows soldiers willingly injecting themselves with C-virus too
If you mean Jake's group then they didn't know it was a virus
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>>734211609
Didn't even know there was an event coming up
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>>734212131
>>734212194
Village literally ends on a cliffhanger that the BSSA are now using BOW's too, why so much arguing against this when there's plenty of examples proving otherwise?
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>>734188839
>she is my hope
>a blind hope
BRAVO KOJIMA
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>>734212562
>Grace, I used rubber bullets when I shot her
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>>734212562
me in the middle
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>>734212468
yes the big reveal is that the bsaa broke the rules. it's not the norm and it's the set up for the next Chris game.
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>>734188839
Aliester Crowley, the man who named himself the beast and conjured up the satanic doctrine all hollywood faggots follow since its inception. on his dying moments realized he dun goofed for being such a larping evil loving faggot.
just one example op.
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>>734212845
>yes the big reveal is that the bsaa broke the rules
yeah. because they're specifically an anti-BOW organization, it's kind of there thing. People just throwing regular wars have no such problems
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I've kept this guy alive the whole time as Grace. He helped me kill zombies and he kind of became my little buddy honestly.
He started to make me feel safe and it made the room nicer because of his presence and passivity (unless you make noise of course!)
I don't know if his name is Martin L. Case or if Martin is the one by the upstairs in the Records Room. Regardless, thank you zombie. Everybody say thank you and say hi to him
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>>734212768
This scene still makes me laugh. They had to know what they were doing by making him no way fag her.
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So now that there's a universal anti viral what now? Is it just gonna be the lame predicable 'aha we know what virals the anti viral kills so we made a NEW viral that it can't be stopped!'?
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>>734213040
BSAA took one, Leon took the other to give to Sherry. Who knows what BSAA will do with it.
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>>734213040
>Is it just gonna be the lame predicable 'aha we know what virals the anti viral kills so we made a NEW viral that it can't be stopped!'?
This is literally at it's core what resident evil is about. It's supposed to be like that. If it wasn't predictable it wouldn't be RE. Just like how every RE follows the same pathways and segments and always ends with the super secret underground facility.
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>>734202036
He just looks less rougher, illness can make you older than you are.
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>>734213026
It blatantly reeks off focus testing and Capcom deciding late in development that Leon killing Emily was just too dark and cruel.
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>>734213159
It's kinda like Dragon Quest for horror fans
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>>734206231
True. Requiem was written by a westerner thoughever.
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>>734213359
I meant more Grace staring at him with eyes begging to be fucked. Then he just walks off and puts on his ring.
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>>734202036
>He looked older when he was sick!

Astute observation, wait until you find out what aging essentially is
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>>734212768
>Grace, it was actually just a white flag that said bang
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>Sticks Zeno's big four foot long handgun directly at Nakanishi's heart
Why the FUCK was the password not Requiem
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>>734212958
it's portrayed as illegal activity. they're not allowed to use bows. someone has gonne rogue at the bsaa.
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>>734213026
>>734213419
You're projecting your own cocklust.
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>>734211359
>>734211609
I predict some expansion update like Not a Hero, VR mode for both Grace and Leon, some kind of merc mods with Leon, Commander(Hunk), Zeno, maybe Chris if the expansion has him, some of the Wolves squad Members.
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>>734213698
Nope, her face even drops when he walks away.
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>>734213830
Just kill yourself.
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>>734213815
heard there might be a DLC that is focused on Alyssa Ashcroft
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>>734213906
Why are you so mad? Every single woman Leon comes across wants to fuck him.
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>>734213815
>>734213948
There will be a DLC where you go back to rescue Emily at the Care Center for sure, she's wrapped in some kind of weird goo coccoon at the end and they went as far as to model a BOW transformation for her but you never actually fight her
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>>734214029
Why are you so mentally ill and gay? Slit them, schizo.
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>Ethan turns out to be the Mold Wesker by having Mold infection but appearing normal and having the ability to tank otherwise fatal attacks
>Grace turns out to be normal
>/v/ is mad Grace isn't another superhero
Fuck you.
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>>734214029
He asked Hunnigan out and got told no.
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>>734213419
Ummm, Leon x Grace is problematic though???
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>>734194392
wow youre stupid, do you even pay attention to what you are playing or were you on tiktok during cutscenes?
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>>734214190
>Grace turns out to be normal
Explain why she had Chloe POV flashback while in reality she just watched surveillance recording?
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>>734208792
business plan?
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>Viruses
>Parasites
>Mold

All that's left is cognitohazards and uhhhh do bacteria count as mold? We're running out of infection methods.

Wait, wait, nanomachines. Nailed it.
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>>734212768
Is this the nano machines son of RE?
The "ocelot was never liquid and it was all hypnosis" of RE?
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>>734213040
It's literally
>Leon and Sherry were actually sick all along
>It's okay though we're fixing a problem we little rally never knew existed until now
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>>734214210
Honestly Leon was going through it by the end of 4. Saves the presidents daughter but cant go balls deep in her because he understandably doesnt wanna get murdered by Secret Service. Then tries to hit up Hunnigan and absolutely fumbles. Feels bad man
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>>734213040
It's literally
>Leon and Sherry were actually sick all along
>It's okay though we're fixing a problem we little rally never knew existed until now
Aka filler with Spencer as the deus ex "we need it to be relevant" machina
Aka RE8
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>>734214262
These are all performative male feminists
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>>734214872
fungi
curses
possession
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>>734214354
Because the game is purposefully trying to misdirect you
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Does The Girl react to flashlights?
The other zombies don't but idk about her
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>>734215283
Can't do fungi or they'll get TLOU ripoff accusations
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>>734215427
That didn't stop them from the Raccoon City segment or Blister Heads
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>>734215283
>fungi
They did mold
They'd have to do some other type like that one that zombifies bugs
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>>734215427
>They already have pedogrooming accusations
>Always get "where's leon" accusations when he's not in
>Muh horror roots accusations
Do fungi fuck it, someone will whine, at least RE won't go full faggit and human drama
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>>734215283
>>734215427
Mold IS fungi
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Is Emily a clone of Grace?
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>>734215337
when i died to her once the tip said that the lighter makes you easier for her to see you

i assume it applies to flashlights too
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>>734215337
She does, turn it off. Pretty funny how it somehow doesn't burn her.
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>>734215948
Ironically it can be harder to see something when the light is directed at you
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>>734216216
Moira chads know
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>>734196029
Fuck it, I'm just thinking Spencer lied to Alyssa. She is a normal girl that Spencer wanted to raise as his own for his redemption arch but she IS a test tube baby and he made sure she was immune to the T-virus and all other kinds of viruses from Umbrella just incase. That explains the getting bit and not turning into a zombie in my headcanon.
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>>734215852
They're genetically identical but they're both clones of someone who's never really clarified.
It was a long term experiment that Spencer was doing that just never panned out. He just handed a random one off to Alyssa Ashcroft one day, and The Connections assumed she had some secret embedded in her that allowed them to unlock Elpis
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>>734215335
She has a second wave of Vietnam flashbacks to it later on. She has the memory of being there.
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>>734216660
>Everything needs explaining
Wesker can catch rockets
Chris can punch rocks into submission
Ashley luckily caused a stovepipe
Not everything needs explanation
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>>734208272
the problem is its NOT his final act
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>>734216734
>someone who's never really clarified
Clarified?
Clari?
Claire confirmed?
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>>734207761
being infected with mold isnt the same as being an undead mold cause jack exploded his head with that curbstomp by that logic resident evil 7 with ethan finished here and he would be another mold puppet of eveline
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>>734211518
The movie where they get instantly dumpstered when a conventional force shows up?
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>>734214354
Because it's reused footage. The flashback she has of Alyssa during the same scene is in third person because that's just how the original scene is shot.
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>>734212131
it was slav hobos getting vodka in exchange of vax shots testing
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>>734188839
Spencer could have just simply asked Miranda to help destroy Umbrella decades ago if he regretted becoming an evil villain. He even had Miranda's address for crying out loud.
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>>734191861
Niggers tongue my anus lmao
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>>734218864
Not only is Spencer not asking Miranda for help in destroying Umbrella a huge plot hole but Spencer completely ignoring Ada's employer, a Chinese company that took over Umbrella's former position as the number one bioweapon manufacturer after Umbrella became bankrupt.

If Spencer wants to permanently get rid of Umbrella's viruses, shouldn't he know that it is an impossible task without first destroying Umbrella's Chinese rival that has successfully stolen Umbrella research over the many years, thanks to Ada being a successful thief?
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>>734218817
Does anyone have any explanation for the weird text on a lot of the background objects in the game?
It looks like a mix of English and Cyrillic and clearly isn't meant to be legible. They often put signs in proper English right next to weird jarbled text too.
I'd think it was AI generated but AI textures in 2026 have legible text.
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>>734219021
>Muh Miranda
>Muh the family
>Muh one offs
Lmao the only recurring things in RE are
>Spencer
>Virus
>uroboros
>2 slices of bread and what you put between then
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>>734219465
Also some of the warning signs around ARK. They're either in Klingon or AI.
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>>734193329
you will be older one day
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>>734194673
KINO
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grace wasnt a cloine reartard
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>>734189770
>I believe her blood is special tho. For why else Gideon was taking blood from her in that amount after kidnap her.
Abandoned plot point for when Grace was supposed to be Alyssa's biological daughter and Grace would've been born with the Daylight cure in her bloodstream
Whole game got rewritten in August
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>>734214262
>seeking out twitter faggotry
>making a screencap compilation
>actually posting it

holy hell you need help anon
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>>734220740
Maybe when he's nearing the end of his life he will comr to 4chan to seek his requiem
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>>734220485
>Grace
>Grace Spencer kennedy
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>>734220485
They could just remove the blood and leave an empty bottle. at least it wouldn't make it look weird.
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>>734220485
It takes a long ass time to make cutscenes. I doubt the story changed that significantly in half a year.
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>I get warned for spoiling a wordle
>this thread stays up and gets hundreds of posts
sasuga
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>>734223169
One is being gay
The other is game discussion, even if it is gay
If you're gonna be a faggot stay on topic at leasst
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How can they make another RE game is everyone is now vaccinated against the virus?
Maybe repeat 7 with a red state as the setting?
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>>734195517
Top is Gideon, bottom is Zeno
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>>734224702
>oh no the new virus is immune to all previous cures
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>>734188839
It's based. I'd do the same thing if shadow government Jews were stealing my work.
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>>734212768
This was stupid as fuck how did Leon knew Emily transformed body would become a cocoon for her real body?? Her body literally changing into a monster... No BOW in RE ever do this...
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>>734223169
RE9 is like 3 days old and 10 hours at the most on a first playthrough, if you haven't beaten it you don't care.
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>>734191876
Pretty sure they're talking about the mental transfer shit because it's the only way Victor's comment makes any sense with the rest of the game. Grace being an inexplicable random orphan baby picked up from god knows where despite T-Virus immunity and all the exact blood tests would basically mean this entire subplot is a gigantic plot hole of nonsense.
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>>734224702
Slap that megamycyte parasite in the new virus since Spencer did not make the antiviral for Megamycyte since he said fuck off to Miranda's immortality parasite
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>>734224885
That was retarded.
>I non lethally killed the BOW
Ok, yeah Leon.
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>>734225231
I believe Leon can do anything that he says he can.
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>>734224885
>would
He said "maybe" , no something what was sure. Also with Elpis, they cured her from the virus and her cataracts.
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>>734224885
Was Marie also a loli piloting a flesh mech? Did she climb out of the goop after everyone else left the sewers?
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>>734206309
>Also Snake is just a dude who's able to take out giant Metal Gears and people with superpowers too.
Solid snake was made from scratch to be the perfect soldier. Naked snake was a spec op soldier and he still needs support from either the us government or his own PMC to take down all the crazy stuff he fought. Meanwhile some biker girl and a rookie cop managed to take down umbrella's flesh monsters.
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>>734212768
When I first played through I thought I'd fucked and that doing the severed hand puzzle was required to save Emily
Then they just pull this shit. Feels like it should have been secret ending material, let me earn that photograph on Grace's desk.
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>>734224885
Maybe Leon watches attack on titan?
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>>734224884
Funny because Spencer is clearly inspired by THE Rothschild. Him being a secret good guy after vanguard become capcom's largest shareholder is just suspicious.
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The Bump limit has been reached.
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>>734213040
Even assuming that they can mass produce it for complete global immunization, ARK was still running for decades and shipped out who knows how many BOWs.
You could also easily set a game in some remote village or commune where they didn't take the antiviral for religious or cultural reasons. Maybe even make it a classism issue with Elpis being too expensive for poorfags.
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>>734188839
"He was the coolest guy" of video games
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>>734227401
the self destruct sequence has been activated



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