well fuck, I guess it’s time to switch to Linux. which distro is the easiest to start with?
>>734237984they're probably gonna force ads
reminder, don't fall for meme distros.just install arch and be done with it
>>734237984>AI focused OSYeah no.
Isn't Mint the noob friendly one?
>>734237984Nah I'll continue rolling with windows 10 on my PC and steamOS on my steam deck.
But I never even got 11.....
>>734237984Cachy and Bazzite are the 'gaming-focused' distros. Everything works with Proton nowadays, aside from rootki anti-cheat multiplayer games. I'm planning on bailing out of the sinking ship of Windows myself, it has never been more over for Windows than it is right now
>>734237984>by shaheer zahidI have saar fatigue
what the fuck is a "fully modular" OS?
>>734237984that's already 11 thoeverbeit
>>734238846>-1.15%The Linux User Genocide
>>734237984>AI garbageWhen the time comes I will be making the switch
>>734238791DO NOT GO WITH MINTI made the same mistake, its total ass. I switch to CachyOS and its so much better.
>>734237984an article with this title has been getting posted for well over a year now and it has never been trueM$ is just going to keep shoving more AI and spyware into 11; they're not coming out with 12 before 2030
>>734237984>set for release this yearwait, how long has 11 even been out? feels like I've only had to suffer through it at work for a yearalso, videogaems?
>>734238791Yes. Mint is bae. If you have the newest hardware you might run into issues as its kernal lags behind vut besides that a perfect entry into linux.
>>734238791Yeah. Shit just works. Was near totally seamless jumping to Mint from W7.
>>734239131modular = making all of the bloatware optional and acting like this is a novel feature that has never been done before
>>734237984>talk shit about the state of the Israelites>start clamping down with the digital IDs, subscription rituals and other misc bullshitReally makes you think
>>734239435>as its kernal lags behindI view that as a positive. I'd rather have stability than whatever random bleeding edge update.
>>734238791Yeah its good
>>734238719>Don't fall for meme distros>Recommends the least scrub friendly distro.I have to agree with this anon that most distros are a meme in the sense that you won't stick with them on the long run. I'll spare you the distro hopping. All distros are made from these three.>DebianNever breaks. Predictable. Old reliable. Actually old.>FedoraRolling release with corporate backing. Things will break, they might be fixed, and you get to play with shiny new things.>ArchYou build everything from scratch. You actually need to understand how computers work beyond control panel or rebooting to install and use this.If I had to recommend an absolutely scrub-friendly distro, it would be CachyOS or Debian. >inb4 but Cachy's just Arch-yeah, but Cachy does most of the heavy lifting. It's in my experience, the only distro that truly 'just werks'. This doesn't mean that everything is just handed to you. I wanted to install the H-content patch for Winter memories and I had to tweak a few things using wine, but you can find everything online.
>>734238791ubutntu, mint, centos, fedora, it really doesn't matter. if you don't like one aspect of it you can just install whatever packages you're missing from another distro.
>>734238719arch is a meme distro, all rolling release distros are memes
>>734238846No, You Can't Just Use Old Versions of Windows. Here's why:
>>734239524>enlighten the masses to start using linux and fucking off from corpo garbo by streetshittersthere's cons but also pros
>>734237984>AI (All Indians) Focused OSMS really loves them pajeets and big government money.
Fuck this I'm going back to consoles
>>734238791>>734238719Sadly, the only good just-werks distro is the one named Fedora
>>734238791>Install Mint>Update my packages>Neither my wifi card nor my ethernet port work.And I never tried that garbage again.
Didn't we just get 11 tho
>>734237984I recently set up Nobara and I've enjoyed it so far
>>734239550valve picked it, you have no argument
>>734237984Linux won.
>>734238791>>734238719ubuntu
>>734239131all the functions you just had access to before are now subscription-based dlc.
>>734239660because windows killed itself
>>734239418anon 11 is 5 years old…
>>734239597unironically I might end up back on consoles depending on how good GTA VI runs on PS5 and if the online is fun.I'd at least buy a year of psn and enjoy it like I did RDO.
>>734239418W11 flopped, they're rebranding it as W12 to try to get rid of all the bad press around it
I prefer windows 9
>>734237984lel i'm still on 10
>>734239629 see>>734239797
>>734239418You only noticed it at your workplace because the intended deprecation of W10
>>734239836children weren't alive and thus don't remember when they rebranded vista SP3 as windows 7 lol
>>734237984They haven't fixed any of the things broken with 11 but are already talking about releasing 12?
ubuntu, it just werks.
>>734237984install gentoo, the last OS you'll ever need
>>734237984wtf? didn't windows 11 just release last year or some shit?or have I just ignored it because it wasn't until last year it screeched at me to upgrade from 10
>>734239797>its true what the
>>734239554it won't be supported forever by new hardware and new games
>>734237984Who is your fucking target consumer, Microsoft? The people who use PC's are gamers, developers, and workers. Your average normie uses a phone for internet. PC's are back to be using used by nerds and workers like it was pre-2000. You are not getting back the normie casuals. It isn't happening. They only used PC's in the past because it was the gate to using the internet. You need to focus on preventing any further bleeding of users to Linux.This is my issue with Microsoft. They have a product that the world depends on, yet I feel they are going to run us into a wall chasing something they can't get. I'm not ready to make the jump to Linux, so I'm not even going to get into that. I do wish them the best, however, for when the day comes I inevitably do.
>>734240048>didn't windows 11 just release last year or some shit?it released like 4-5 years ago
>>734239970My mini pc's fan is broken after I switched from windows 11 to ubuntu server.
>>734239836They're making more bad press themselves by calling it an AI slop OS
do I HAVE to buy a USB drive to install the penguin?
Surely valve has made steam os as simple as windows by now? I don’t care about learning anything about Linux but obviously I would switch if they did something like this or the ID thing
>>734240083Good morning saar
>>734237984Will businesses actually fall for it?
>>734240156Your response makes absolutely no sense, retard. You want to argue something I said, do it, and stop acting like an idiot who thinks he's witty.
>>734240136You just need something your PC can boot the ISO image from your bios, so a burnt CD also work fine. Then again, that would require you to have a disc reader.
>>734239649steamos is not rolling release you idiot.
>>734240136USB is easiest. If thats not possible you can try making a partition for it or using a virtual drive
>>734238846>windows 10stupid goy, you are already using a retarded OS
Does the every 2nd windows rule still apply?
I want to take the plunge but my handful of steam games I still play is holding me back
>>734240136i thought ubuntu literally had an installer you could launch from windows, either way ubuntu is kinda trash but if you're trying to avoid a usb i think it might be possible
>>734240083There's no reason to not use an easy-to-use Linux distro now unless you are some retard that plays a rootkit gacha game or you use some kind of bespoke work program that just won't work on Linux through compatibility layers, and even then why not just virtual machine that shit.
>>734238490>pay $15 a month for ̶n̶o̶ less ads!
>>734240427Just dual boot.
>>734239614Why cant I install discord with the gui on fedora? It's two clicks on mint?
>>734238846english users went upnow post steam's language demographics
>>734240457>ubuntu is kinda trashi don't understand this sentiment at allit has been my workhorse for like 15 yearspick a flavor with a de/ui you like and use apt, it works flawlessly and has canonical backing it up for LTS guarantee
>>734240463Anon, I have a work development environment consisting of applications going back 30 years. It's headache enough getting things running how they should when jumping to the newest Windows iteration. The jump to Linux for me isn't going to be a simple plug-n-play. There's a hell of a lot of things that will break, and emulation isn't going to come without a hit to performance. I know it must be great for other people who don't do a lot with there PCs, or just game, but that's not the case for everyone. I don't need to jump to Linux. I need Microsoft to stop fucking around a once good operating system.
>>734240427proton support is really good these days. i have been able to run all the "windows only" games in my lib>>734240584i used to until i realized the windows partition never got used and consumed an inordinate amount of disk
I want to figure out how to have my linux boot up play the ps2 sfx.
>>734240082what new hardware?huehuehuehuehue
>>734239961Vibe coding is much easier than bugfixing, and management wants to prove AI was worth the investment. So they'll prioritize spamming out ""features"" over fixes.
>>734238846Fucking insane to me how many people stick with windows no matter what, but I guess if they're that retarded it's no real loss.
>>734238846I think this is another instance of more net cafes in China being over-represented.It's got the same spike in Chinese that you usually see when that happens.
>>734240779It also won't be supported forever by web browsers and Steam. See what happened to Windows 7.
>>734240821People just use whatever their PC comes with. You want people to use linux? Get some one of those PC building websites to start selling premades with it already installed.
>>734240651You can use Flatpost
>>734240821As a guy who switched this year its mostly the annoyance of learning linux combined with the annoyance of time needed to get the setup all nice and comfy-like.
>>734237984>subscription basedGreat! Now wincucks will have to pay money in order to be allowed to use their own internet.
>>734240738unless your workplace forces you to use windows, or you are married to adobe or autodesk trash, there is zero reason not to use linuxthe internet and all supercomputers use linux because it's easy to develop for, easy to modify, free, and reliableget with the times, grandpa, you've been saying the same shit to yourself for 30+ years
>>734237984I hope they do it. I am cherish the idea of win12 being the AI OS. It will be so fucking funny that it can finally burst this bubble
nobody has ram to run this shit lol
>>734240842you can always get some fork of firefox for older windows.piracy doesn't have steam problems.
>>734240984linux can run on a toaster
>>734240891I'll just use mintThanks
i thought windows 10 was supposed to be the last windowsi thought windows 11 was supposed to be the last windowsi thought windows 12....
>>734241083ok, use what you like
>>734239628User error Windows 12 sounds like just what you need. You can't fuck it up because it's not your computer and you can't control the settings
Apparently the source of all this is just some reddit comments. I mean microsoft is retarded but I am still not buying this.
>>734237984>"slop" filtered at the OS level
>>734240779It already made no sense to buy Nvidia9070 with an xt bios destroys everything on value and you need to spend $1k minimum for an Nvidia GPU without concessions
>>734240965microslop makes its money mostly on cloud services these days
>>734238719arch?, more like ACK!!
Now all Google has to do is release AluminiumOS for PC. Linux for the normoid audience.
>>734238846>windows 11 goes down>windows 10 goes uphm...
>>734238791
>>734237984>subscription based>ai focusedliterally who the fuck would want either of these things in their OS?
>>734241235google is fundamentally an ad companyi have no idea why people use chrome. i haven't seen an ad on youtube in years.i don't need to help them more effectively surveil me anymore than they already do.
>>734241380you are not the target consumerpajeets arewhen you understand that, you understand the way tech is moving right now
>>734237984>w7Not my problem
>>734241235no one is installing thisanyone with the capability to install an os is at the very least sceptical about poogle
Operating System elitism is for midwit retards and people with autismMicrosoft themselves use Ubuntu for their Azure cloud. They have absolutely no problems using Linux whenever it's appropriate, and they certainly aren't afraid to tell people they utilize Linux. Reminder that Microsofts first commercial OS was Xenix, which was a UNIX based system, and DOS was just their attempts at fixing some of IBMs bugs and repackaging PC-DOS into its own thing. It wasn't until Dave Cutler joined Microsoft in the late 80s and early 90s that we see the UNIX vs Windows autism, because Dave was famous for hating the UNIX paradigm, and sought to make Windows NT as non-UNIX like as possible by making everything a property and started implementing shit from VMS, another OS he worked on.Anyways, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that Microsoft themselves literally do not give a fuck what OS you use, they already have their exit strategy when Windows finally dies, and that's pretty much to move their entire workflow to Linux, because the only people who think you can only chose one or the other are terminally online retards, whereas people in the real world just choose what works. Microsoft doesn't see Linux as a rival or threat. In any case, I've personally been using Ubuntu on and off for decades but finally decided to switch fulltime earlier this year and I'm probably never going back to Windows. Linux in the past was extremely hit-or-miss but nowadays it's pretty much a commercial OS being developed by fulltime employees with some volunteers on the side. All my drivers are here, all my games work, even some more obscure programs work just fine now too.
>>734239547>debianEverySingleTimeWithout exception. Fucking why man. Why can't we get one(1) OS that isn't created by faggots
>>734240821Some of us play games on our PC>B-B-BUT MUH WINEI am not installing your tranny OS so that I can run into a situation where a game I really wanna play doesn't run properly.
>microtransations for your operating system
>>734241587nigger, might as well hate movies too
>>734241823Ever since Valve started contributing to the Wine project it's pretty much flawless now
>>734239681Ubuntu is the most popular distro on the planet & arch fags will still act like their broken ass rolling distro isnt a meme
>>734241868evidently microtransactions are fucking huge in india right nowthey are also the NUB (next billion users)whitey is no longer profitable
I switched to Cachy from Win11 on my new computer. I just keep my old windows laptop around to use office for work stuff that I need to clean up at home. For everything else Linux is fine.
>>734241942somehow mint and arch have infiltrated zoomer's brainsi suspect youtubers, seeing as they are their surrogate friends
>>734241870I DO hate movies
>MS releases Win12 with AI and other slop>everyone installs Win11 because it's "the last good OS before it turned to shit"You know this is exactly what's going to happen. People will instantly forget the reasons they disliked Win11.
>>734237984Once this completely fails will they shift back to not being retarded?
I got to at least live long enough to see Microsoft give up the easiest throne to ever be sat on. They literally didn't have to pull this stupid shit. Just make iterations of the software. That's ALL they had to do.
>>734242086The last decent windows OS was 7 and even that was flawed, the last time they weren't retarded niggerfaggots was realistically like windows XP. So no, it's never going back, those software devs are all long gone and forever to be replaced by jeets and ai.
>>734242086Microjeets is all saars now, there's nothing left to go back to. This applies to every tech company and possibly your country now too.
KubuntuGODS, declare your presence.
>>734242086Do you have any idea how many nepojeets they've hired?There is no return You should be glad it's dying, windows was born from IBM kike deals and returning control to users with Linux is what things should've been from the get go
>>734242086Fails in what way? This OS isn't being marketed to the end-user to begin with. Microsoft already knows that people can just pirate Windows and patch all this shit out, and they really don't care. This subscription based shit is going to be marketed directly to businesses, because businesses don't want to hire their own tech support and are more than willing to sign a contract with Microsoft before impacting their workflow.
>>734242158It was doomed once you consider how they got on that throne. They extinguished so much they had no reason to improve.
>falling for the troonix meme
So when are they gonna finish 10?
>>734240083>Who is your fucking target consumer, Microsoft?Businesses and governments. They don't give a shit about personal users.
>>734239131lol want to open something up in notepad? Pay up.
>>734242235I can safely say at this point calling something "troon" means nothing anymoreGood job, you've used it to the point of semantic satiation
>>734241153>It already made no sense to buy NvidiaIt makes a lot of sense if you enjoy coomslop.
>>734237984AI-focused means every process will be scanned looking for wrongthink.
>I can safely say at this point calling something "troon" means nothing anymore>Good job, you've used it to the point of semantic satiation
>>734242338>BusinessesI work at a chemical plant and W11 alone has costed us 50k+ in failed product due to random updates breaking our machines. Management got so fed up that they just rolled back to W10 and isolated the manufacturing space from the network.
>>734242532what's your salary, microjeet hijra?
>>734240821Windows is still the best operating system for gaming and general use. The main reason for using Linux is being mad at big corporations, not superior usability or support.
>>734239418There's new government spyware that needs to be installed onto every pc. Since 11 was a shitshow and people are going back to 10, micro soft jeets are forced to roll out 12.
>>734239364"Windows will be a subscription"-dooming has been going for at least 15 years at this point.
>>734241587Fags are over represented in sciences, literature and philosophy. They are one of the main forces that moves society forward.Just look at the Greeks man, they figured society out, men ran shit and loved their bros and women were meant to carry their offspring and nothing more.
>>734237984>Subscription-basedAlmost certainly not happening. It'll be "free" as long as you let them take your data and serve you ads.
>>734242636>loved their broswait a minute
>>734242586Uh oh, seething!
>>734238846Sorry! Windows 10 is no longer compliant with California's age verification laws. As websites update and become in-line with this groundbreaking new piece of legislation, you may find yourself unable to access more and more websites as you will not be able to prevent a verified token containing your age and any personal identification that may be required to verify your identity. Please consider updating to a modern, compliant OS!
>>734239961I've never had a single one of the issues people always post weird articles about.
>>734237984I'll just continue to use Windows 11 for a few more years while committing to install ArchLinux. I bought a Windows 11 OEM key for like two bucks (legal in the EU), but there is no way I am giving JeetSoft actual money for their garbage OS.
>>734239797Windows 11-tan is still a loli?
>>734242636I get real tired of hearing people who know absolutely nothing about history speak with authority on the subject. "Greece" didn't even exist until very recently, go on and name 3 Greek states off the top of your head that aren't Athens and Sparta.
>>734241307my wife my wife my wife
>>734237984I seriously hope the pushback will be enough for MS to reconsider. The whole “AI” brand is becoming universally hated at this point, sorta like crypto and NFTs the only people pushing this shit are the ones that have a financial stake in it. Nobody fucking wants this technology.
>>734242680says the mind broken retard that entered a thread just to throw out dime a dozen unoriginal seethe?no more (You)s for you, you're brown and uninspired
>>734241380Their mindset is that you'll accept it because you literally have no choice.
>>734242810>
>>734242801I don't think Microsoft has walked back anything since they extended Win 7's security updates when the initial reception to 10 was so negative
>>734240082Yet you shill linux. Curious!
>>734242636>hire only fags and h1b>reject everyone else for the past two decades>they can't get any other jobs and lose their skills while working in other jobs>meanwhile, fags and h1b ruin the software part of computerJEEZ I WONDER WHY?
after W10 LTSC eventually ends I have no clue what to do except continue using it forever>LinuxNo thanks I'm too tech retarded for it.
>>734242970time to learn nigga, read a fucking book
>>734239554jej
You last bastion is the same man who called it over 10 years ago. The biggest problem linux has is the lack of a unified effort to actually make it functional for the average computer user. It consists of a base of users who:a. Believe the average consumer shouldn't have a computer in the first placeb.Are fucking troons more concerned over what naming conventions the code itself should usec. multiple other users with their own vision and versions of linux which divides the userbase into hyper specific uses unfit for consumersRichard Stallman stalled too fucking long and Linus Torvalds gave the fuck up, they're done they aren't coming to save you. Gabe is the only person who is going to come close to unifying these retards because he's the only one with actual capital to invest in such ventures, plus a userbase who day by day have more reasons to make the switch from microsoft. A combination of the death of windows and the death of other linux distros will be needed and will happen over the course of the next 10 years, either by the developers dying out via their open wounds or the increasing normie hatred of the new Adobe product subscription plans.
>>734240842>web browsers and Steam. See what happened to Windows 7i still can use both on win7
>>734239128That's a DuneCoon name not a StreetJeet name.
>>734242775>"Indeed, the romantic attachments that we do hear of are with boys and young men, and of these we hear very frequently: homosexual love was regarded as a normal thing and treated as frankly as heterosexual love. (Like the other sort, it had its higher and its lower aspect.) Plato has some fine passages describing the beauty and the modesty of young lads, and the tenderness and respect with which the men treated them."-H.D.F. Kitto's "The Greeks", in reference to the work "Sexual Life in Ancient Greece" by Hans Licht.Go ahead, tell me why you know more than two actual scholars.
>>734243020Gabe will give the us what we want!
>>734243020Why don't they just have exes instead of the retarded package manager shit
>>734243020
>>734243020Fatass better hurry the fuck up already
>>734243123what's the actual problem with the kernel being bloated with useless stuff
>>734241823>still whining about wineit's not 2017 anymore, it's retarded proof now. You just have to press play on steam and that's it(I was surprised myself, there was a time even deus ex was struggling to start)
>>734237984>subscription-based AI-focused OSwhy
>>734243020That (formerly) fat fuck has had so many opportunities to step in and save gaming from the desolate shithole that it is now, and every time he just buys another yacht.
I think Microslop is gonna fail, but then, 5 years down the line, Google/Apple will do the same thing and succeed.
>>734243369$
video games?
>>734242826Linux exists though
>>734237984>modularsure i'll have the version without the subscription module, ai module and +5 to the version module
>>734243608>discussion over OS which determines your ability to play games>hehe lol video games? XD (i saw someone else post that one time and i want to look like an oldfag)
>>734239506>bloatware optionallmao.all the bloatware will be baseline and all the actual useful software will cost extra to be added
>>734243773Oh anon, it will be so much worse. In order to even need the damn thing, you're going to have to verify your age with an ID and face scan. "For child safety" of course.
>>734243809not a single mention of video games itt btw
>>734243809>>734243918he just mentioned XD
>>734243918refer back to the post you just replied to for your answer you mentally retarded ESL
>>734243946maybe you shoud fuck off back to /g/ you niggerlicious retard
>>734243020What's stopping the next big savant programmer/entrepreneur from stepping up and making the next 'windows'?If microsoft is doubling down on slop that no one wants there probably will never be a better opportunity for a new player to enter the market and make a consumer/normie-friendly alternative to windows
>>734243971saar microsofty very very good i like it why theys v/ user downtalking it it not very very on topiclike
>>734244058*microsloppy
>>734237984Just use ubuntu
>>734243608Yes, the same way you can discuss mice, keyboards, headsets, controllers, monitors etc
>>734239131Imagine if you went to buy a car and had to rent the engine and pay a subscription to use the AC
>>734242636fags are also over represented as child molesters, but you're not ready to have this conversation
>>734244134they are literally doing that now too
>>734244058>ni/g/ger>talks like a jeetfitting
>>734238846>+12%Holy shit. Actually insane numbers. That's vista levels of rejection.
>>734242934New stuff actually on works Linux while it doesn't on Windows 7. Soon it will not work on Windows 10 either.
>>734244030>What's stopping the next big savant programmer/entrepreneur from stepping up and making the next 'windows'?Microshit assassin's, no I'm not joking.
>>734244179sir you are the jeety i am pakistani i am the based one you are the foolish one
>>734243020Gabe can have all the retarded barely tech literate zooomshit gamers he wants desujust keep them away from fedora
>replace file explorer with AI suggestions
>>734244180No one is rejecting anything dumbass The survey is 54% simplified Chinese this month, it was 24% in January Windows 10 was losing ground every month, this is just a massive chink sample
>>734242630Andnow it's here! Hooray!
Bazzite if you're brown, Cachy if you're white
>>734244239WoW...! This is so amazing, I can't believe what ai is capable of!
>>734244239yeah thinking I'll actually be going linux
Sooner I will be trying to figure how to install Windows 7 or 10 on new computer. Are install files still available? I should make installation USB while I still can.
>>734244239this is why RAM costs 700000 dollars a stick
>>734239131Instead of having home, pro and enterprise there is only a ubiquitous Win12 but they charge you a subscription fee for each additional feature/service you want to enable (group policy editor, entra/domain integration, etc)It will be a huge disaster.
>>734240543FUCK
>>734244370>>734244239That's what I don't get about "AI"They are investing so much in it. Its not even real. Its the dog shit half measure LLM generative AI that struggles to do even the most mundane things elementary school students could do.At least if it was real functioning proper AI I could understand why they'd invest so much in it. But this? JFC
>>734237984Bazzite
>>734237984How many more years do we have before windows 11 has discontinued support? I'll unironically try and learn linux by then
>>734239131GNU/Linux is a fully modular OS since it's designed to have a small kernel space and a large userland, which makes it easy to swap every single aspect of the OS for something else, from individual kernel modules, to the init, to the desktop environment and so on, as opposed to Windows, which is has a comparatively larger kernel space and a significantly more monolithic userland. As for what it means in terms of marketing speak, it just means something something AI
>>734239597Buying more hardware in general is probably a good idea, considering how apocalyptic AI and future OS's are looking
>>734244505Maybe its ok if you can get a basic ass version with no bloat and its free. Surely ther'l be a free version right
>>734238490>Requiring a chip that 99.99999% of PCs don't have, can't have>Have to pay a subscription to even take advantage of that chip>Will most definitely require an MS account>Will likely require TPM 2.0 just like 11>Will most likely require you to submit your ID or face scan to even use the goddamn thing>Even with a sub, will likely have telemetry and spyware up the ass and sending your info to god-knows-where<Ads will still be everywhere, possibly even more aggressive than before>Everything will probably be web-based like 11>Code that will probably make 11 look polished>Liquid Glass turning your performance into Liquid Shit>RAM (currently one of the most expensive components) requirements will probably be high as fuckThis is an OS from hell
my 3 predictions for windows 12a lot of ai bloat, reason for changing versions is because a lot of computers that can run windows 11 won't be able to run local models they have plannedID check to turn your computer on for the first time to comply with new digital ID laws for OS providers coming outtotal eradication of local accounts, no power user workarounds.
>>734238791The main ones suggested for new linux users areMintBazziteCachyosEndeavor, I think. Don't go with ubuntu, they keep doing suspicious shit, like having their own snap packages that you can't look inside, having telemetry in the terminal, and being the main pusher for rust while its not ready.
>>734240083They have no target consumer, they are trying to get as much short term profit before the inevitability of them crashing and burning
>>734244574>>734244370>>734244239Most AI research and resources aren't actually going towards image generators, you should know better than this. The truth is that what AI is actually doing isn't that impressive or glamorous but is nevertheless invaluable for its target audience of businesses and government contractors and that's to simply be a force multiplier for things like large scale database management.
>>734240082Oh no not new games
>win 12 releases>it's another "who the fuck uses win10? just upgrade" >it's another "this program only supports the latest OS"I'm so tired. I hate linux so much why can't after all these years solve the cmd prompt. you would have a better adoption rate
>>734244850>Don't go with ubuntu, they keep making their OS more streamlined for the average user and as a Linuxfag™ this triggers my autism because something something binary blobs
>>734239131instead of the OS being complete software its actually a collection of barely working react applications each running an instance of chrome.
>>734239554Windows 7 doesn't work for a lot of steam functions because of the new google shit steam insists on using. You can get around some of this with downloading through depot, and using vxkex for some stuff, but it generally is very limited.
>>734237984it's mint >>734238791mint is the noob friendly one.the rest are for specific purposes or for memes, sometimes both, and you should be able to simply read about what the OS offers and make your choice from that. but mint is the easiest.>>734238719>just install archtroll. arch linux is literally the "do it your fucking self" and also the "want to turn your PC into a brick?" distribution and is the surest, fastest way to turn people away from using linux.
>>734244574You need to understand that the average person has no fucking clue about anything about computers. Even posters here who know enough about computers to understand that windows has gone to shit, but still say they are too retarded for Linux are easily in the top 1% of people who understand computers. You and I know that LLMs are at best a slightly more advanced predictive text algorithm that can only spit out what it is told to, but to the average person it may as well be magic, like they are really speaking to a sapient entity. And the average person as it turns out, is what is causing this growth. They are in your government, they are buying stocks, they are driving up the price of computer components.
>>734241235>Round cornerEwwww
>>734242970Then learn
>>734242826But I have dozens of iso ready to be used ?
>>734243020That was for a different reason. MS was going all-in on Apple envy at that time, and was saying that UWP/WinStore-only apps would become the new standard. Win32 was legacy and would be dropped. Needless to say this would destroy Steam if it happened. I doubt Valve would act without that existential threat at the time.The linux thing made it impossible for MS to do that. Dropping win32 would leave linux as the only OS compatible with 99% of games, a colossal self-suicide that even MS wouldn't do. But in retrospect, MS was too jeeted to pull that off anyway. Even now ms store apps constantly break and they've mostly given up on pushing them.
>>734238791Retard proof. Software Manager basically has every software you'd ever want to install. You don't even need to use the terminal and if you do, you can just Google it and copy/paste it. There are some quirks like no middle click scrolling though.I play too many multiplayer games with anticheat to actually use it on the desktop unfortunately. But it saved my shitty laptop's longevity, which eventually started running at 100% CPU idle with W11 as every update got more bloated. Mint XFCE runs on actual toasters. Browsers can still be resource intensive, but there's a lot more room for it when Windows isn't hogging up the performance.
Im pretty close to switching to CachyOS but for me modding bethesda games on Linux is a complete and utter fucking pain in the ass. Jackify makes it a little better but still requires more tinkering than a Windows PC.
>>734245061it's sad that the average 100 IQ midwit is that retarded and there's 50% of the human population that's even dumberno wonder this world is going to shit. Normalfags are literally killing this earth and I don't blame the elites for wanting to automate everything and cull the population. Like do we really need overweight dumb amerishits that are just walking set of health problems?
>>734245130>The linux thing made it impossible for MS to do that. the united states government would never allow Windows to abandon 32 bit lol.
>>734244894Well why are you retards sticking with Windows in the first place?Name one old game which works on Windows 7 but doesn't on Linux.Or are you just so retarded you're unable to learn to use anything new?
>>734240083I think the funny thing is with how hard they are pushing AI with coding + development, why wouldn't everyone (eventually) just vibe code their own OS and not use their product at all?that goes for all companies, AI could completely kill Saas and then all that would be left is hardware companies (which makes sense, microslop is one.)so why even do the song and dance? why release a w12 anyway? unless they know that AI will never be good enough to kill Saas and they're hedging their bets.
>>734237984I'm still not installing troonux.I'm fine with windows 10 thanks
>>734244959Isn't Mint even easier than Ubuntu though? It's literally just like classic Windows.
>>734245493Mint is based on Ubuntu
>>734245439>Kicking the can down the road You do know that eventually you'll buy new hardware and it won't support 10 right?
Linus Torvalds himself uses Ubuntu, because he doesn't have time to fix shit, it used to be the goat but that was ages ago the Amazon advertisement shit happened. Debian is the other old reliable and sort of a protest choice against that misdeed for those who haven't forgotten about it.Once you've learned your handful of commands, you're set for life because many of the systems have worked exactly like they did decades ago. Windows keeps changing their shit and UI, but you don't have to deal with that. Everything can practically function with the same amount of hassle it can in Windows, except the stuff that is made not to work.
>>734245165>There are some quirks like no middle click scrolling thoughThats because linux often uses middle scroll to switch between windows or some shit. You can turn it back on by going into the config section. As an example about:config for firefox browsers, and then just search for middlemouse and turn scroll to true.
>>734241136and this is why Linux will never have real market share
>>734245526Right, but it's still even easier and more Windows-like.
Just install a linux flavor of your choice and stick with it, then change it after a year if you really want to. The important thing is to move away from Windows, not move away AND be some 1337 haxx0r. Who cares if it's Arch or Mint, you're not on /g/.
>>734245570>Linus Torvalds himself uses UbuntuI'm pretty sure Linus uses Fedora
>>734237984>switch to Linuxtroonpilled
>>734237984I'm still on Windows 10. If I ever have to update, I'll probably just take the Linux pill at this point.
>>734240083their target consumer is government contracts, who make up 90% of their customers.
>>734245629https://unlocked.microsoft.com/pride/So true sister!!!
>>734245337Works on my machine
>>734245582Unfortunately I'm a Brave user. It doesn't have that option like Firefox does. There's a Chrome extension that adds it, but then it randomly decides specific links can't be middle-clicked, it's buggy.
>>734245570>many of the systems have worked exactly like they did decades agoLinux didn't have systemd cancer decades ago. Some other things have got worse as well.
>>734244293+2 izzat has been deposited into your account saar. You don't get numbers like that unless normalfags are going back to 10.
>>734237984you're going to upgrade anyway
>>734245697Okay, but Windows 7 doesn't work on mine. Even if it did I wouldn't be retarded enough to stick with it in 2026.
>>734245710Here are your "normal fags" retard
>>734245768Works on my machine
>>734245707There's always the protest of a protest (Devuan), but there'll always be the freedom to choose.
>your option is either linux, windows, or mac osJUST.
>>734240926t. never had to deal with IT work
>>734245597> and more Windows-like.I can only imagine what people really mean when they say this is that you can add icons to your desktop by default on Mint. Gnome can be pretty barebones by default, and distros like Ubuntu tend to mostly stick to stock Gnome, but you don't even need to really get your hands dirty to configure gnome to your liking, at least not anymore than you'd need to get your hands dirty on Windows for some of its more esoteric settings. >>734245707Cringe. You don't know enough about init systems to have a real opinion on what's worse or not. Stay in your lane and stop getting your opinions secondhand from people with autism. You shouldn't care about what init your distro uses as long as it gets you to your desktop and loads necessary drivers.
I've been on Linux Mint for months, it's fine. Don't bother with a tranny distro (anything else)
>>734245804Yes and you're still a retard for running Windows 7 in 2026.
>>734245973*kisses you*
>>734245878TempleOS
>>734237984>reportedlySo it there's no actual source. Got it.
>>734245535Not him, but if I were to buy a new computer now, I would be fine for another ten years or so, maybe then you will figure out how to make a decent Linux distro.
>>734237984>Another "I hate AI" schizo thread on /v/>not even trying to be video game related since they learned they don't need to anway>same replies again>will hit bump limit from bots talking to each other and instigating the people who still can't tellI think the mods secretly want /v/ to be gone. Clearly they don't care.
>>734246256Buttcheeks twerking
>>734244239Luddite bros...
>>734237984They're really just gonna keep doing the exact opposite of what people want, huh?
>>734246237They're already decent if you drop your unhealthy attachment to Nvidia and stop pretending that being able to use the windows desktop environment makes you an expert
>>734246256+5 izzat
>>734246256stop nooticing
>>734246256get new material.
The only reason Linux isn't more popular than Windows on desktop is because its greatest strength is its greatest downfall, and that's too many choices. Every time the subject of "What is the definitive Linux OS?" comes up you get a million different answers from people on varying degrees of the spectrum>Get Mint it's the most user friendly and Windows-like>Get Ubuntu it's the most popular>Get Arch because I have brain damage and think I'm way smarter than I actually am>Get Fedora it's what Linus and the US government uses>Get none of those because they all are pushing for this OS/Kernel to have consistent standards which is bad because I'm retarded, use my esoteric distro instead, it doesn't use flatpaks or systemd or gnome or anything that is trying to make GNU/Linux a cohesive experience for the average person This makes it practically impossible to recommend Linux to anyone. People want a "definitive experience™"In my opinion, Fedora, Mint, Debian, and Ubuntu are all basically the same OS with some minor differences in terms of user experience under the hood. If you're coming from MacOS, you might feel more comfortable with Ubuntus default UI, if you're coming from Windows, you might feel more comfortable with Mint's UI. Linux devs want GNU/Linux to have a consistent experience for end users about as much as you do, so you really can't go wrong on the big, popular distros. It's just not easy to tell the average person this.
>>734246326I constantly hear about needing to input commands and that there are things lacking in every distro. How the fuck you expect an average Joe to start using it they end up getting confused on what to pick and then having to fight the OS?
hNNRRRRRRRHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>734246406A definitive experience implies getting the most out of the OSThat basically narrows it down to arch, thus it's obviously cachyos since it's arch but better Some may get filtered and want to stick with more handholdy distros though and that's fine
>>734246406it's an illusion of choice, there's really only Ubuntu and Fedora that matters as all the development happens there. Everything else is retarded cope.>Inb4 muh debianno debian is not a purely linux OS they support like 5 kernels >b-b-but archand what have they contributed? That's right nothing.>ii-install gentoo!!die in a fire you memeing faggot
aaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What the fuck is all this shit about different OS's and kernals with linux?
Mint is more Windows-like than modern Windows.
>>734240821Plenty of games do not run on Linux, and no, I'm not talking about live service slop.
>>734237984Mint is the easiest, its a general purpose OS and I've been perfectly fine gaming on it using an Nvidia 3080, literally just use steam proton and set it to "experimental" and then change that if you're having issues.Mint focuses on stability. it has a great GUI for installing popular software like browsers and basic programs, with a wide range of stuff one click to install available across the web because its ubuntu based.No matter what distro anyone chooses you have to learn some linux-isms, google a few problems if you have them etc. I think users that would already use the command line to run programs in windows will end up using terminal sometimes regardless.P.S If you're having issues with Mint, maybe try CachyOS since I have that on a weak laptop and it works absolutely great too.
>>734246836list them all for me please Anon. What makes them not able to be played on linux?
CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGEEE!!!!
>>734237984It's so fucking over.
>>734246904FFXI for one.
*retard proofs your Linux*
>>734246732Linux is technically just a kernel. A kernel doesn't really do anything on its own, so as a result, people make different operating systems to run on top of the kernel. Technically all modern Linux Distros use the same exact OS, which is the GNU OS, Fedora is just GNU, Ubuntu is GNU, Mint is GNU, Arch is GNU etc, and the only differences between them are really just what specific software and UIs are setup by default>Why not just get pure GNU/Linux?Because the GNU OS itself doesn't really do much on its own either, it's designed to be a bare minimum set of software for other people to make distros out of more or less.
>>734246406I think one of the worst parts of getting Linux is figuring out which one to go with. There's a fuckload of different distros, and someone who's past experience is with Windows or their phone or whatever doesn't know how to select one. I tell everyone to just get Ubuntu. It saves most people the headache, and anyone who gets pissed off about it is free to get something else.
>>734246317indians operate under izzat, and almost all ceo's are indians. They can't admit they're wrong, or they lose face and insult their entire race/religion. They have to run every one of these companies into the ground.
WAAAAAAHHHHHHRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>734246326I don't know why people keep complaining about nvidia, it seems fine to me. Using wayland too. That said I'm using cachy and I hear it started working well only very recently. Judging by how things are going, that dx12 performance bug will be fixed long before amd gets proper cuda support. But good dx12 games are few and far between anyway.>>734246406Yeah I can't honestly recommend distros to people because they all have some crippling flaw.>fedora has its codec and driver autism>mint is old as fuck>ubuntu has its snap shit>cachy is good I guess but but I'm not autistic enough to recommend an arch derivative to a normal person
>all this talk about Linux being great for toasters and old shit as an alternative to W7 and W10Okay, but what if Ive got a bunch of new 2025 parts like a 5070ti and an i7-14700 14thgen? Does Cachy support new shit?
>>734239614>m'lady
>>734247181>ubuntuit was my first distro back when i started, good times. shame they enshittified with snaps and ads in the terminal.i'd recommend fedora or mint instead.
>>734247259they're the only OS that have lightweight options. There's no option for windows
>>734239131DLCsRemember microsoft have been talking about a subscription/DLC based Windows version for a while now. If you dont pay the sub you literally cant use non-Microsoft .exes on the machine. Then there'll be tiers of subscriptions like they already have for Office365. Then apps will be on an app store so you'll have to fork out for MSpaint and notepad etc. Windows 11 Notepad has AI built into it which has been known to randomly execute commands without warning.
>>734247181>I think one of the worst parts of getting Linux is figuring out which one to go with.Like the other anon said, Fedora and Ubuntu are really the only two Linux Distros since that's where all the development is actually happening>>734247229>Yeah I can't honestly recommend distros to people because they all have some crippling flaw.You didn't list a single real flaw with any of those distros, your opinions are completely contrived and you're the definition of a midwit.
>>734246406The reason Linux isn't more popular than Windows isn't because of there being too many choices, it's because all the choices are shit.
>>734240083>Who is your fucking target consumer, Microsoft?Other corporate. Even small 30-man companies/businesses are forking out like $15k/year to use Office365. You cant use Google Docs cuz of "security issues" and some other companies literally wont do business with you if you use anything Google.
>>734247434>windows comes preinstalledgetting a normie to install linux is borderline impossible. OEMs fucked linux.
>>734238846/thread
Normies adapted to Chromebooks easily. If they can just click a button and get on Facebook, they're happy. There's no reason you can't just install Mint and Chrome on a normie's computer.
>>734247053this is what ultimately led to the Linus moment
Microsoft themselves use Linux to power their cloud infrastructure. Microsoft basically abandoned their own OS. If you're not using Linux, you're just being left behind
win10 already has bloat so gloating about staying literally means nothing. You should've stayed on windows7 with outdated drivers
>>734239081>Bazzite
>>734238763>AI focused OSMicrosoft is a buggy hellscape of Pajeets and AI now. Anyone with enough tech knowledge to install Linux should have abandoned it long ago on their personal computers.But unfortunately Microsoft is like the definition of "too big to fail". It's not like Bud Light where customers can decide "I'm gonna drink some other beer because fuck trannies" or people deciding to go from Coke to Pepsi.For many companies trying to escape the Microsoft hellscape would cost a ton of money hiring out a whole group of people to change everything from databases to your employees laptops since everything is working on Microsoft. So even if you tried, even basic tasks like trying to pay your employees on time wouldn't just be a giant pain in the ass, it would literally be illegal as fuck.The game was rigged from the start.
>>734244239Even in AI shitposts Devil Jho invades
>>734247614>install linux on someones PC>they manage to fuck it up or they break the machine>you're now their tech support for life or it's your fault for everything unrelated like a fan breaking or GPU going badnope, never helping a normienigger with tech ever again
cachy isn't a gaming distro. It's a benchmark distro that happens to be good for games
>>734239204An extra 200 million Chinese Windows 10 users being included in the survey doesn't mean anyone left Linux. See >>734240663. Among people who matter to this English-language image board, Linux usage went up.>>734247578Well, the thread kept going.Dipshit.
I want to switch to Linux as I don't play any online games. But I'm worried my autism will force me to stick with whatever distro I pick first so I'm frozen picking one. What can I use if I only game and browse the internet? That's it. I don't do shit else on my computer.
What's your /v/ideo player? For me it's mpv.
>>734247950go to googletype in linuxhit I'm feeling lucky
>>734240821You have to bear in mind anon that to most normies, even basic car maintenance is a complex and difficult task. To them everything they can't see inside the cab is just a black box of mechanical mystery. Shit, most people barely even understand how their own bodies work. All they are focused on in life is : have job, get money, have fun, don't die. Most view knowledge as a chore to acquire or upkeep, and even those who do get some knowledge will optimize it for the minimum burden and maximizing fun. Computers then are like literal fucking wizardry and why learn it yourself when you can pay nerds to build and fix it. Only around 25% of all humans in the world possess a personal computer, and of that population only 5-8% of them actually understand how they work to any measure beyond on/off and basic use. Understanding them well enough to use Linux, puts you in the 1% of personal computer users.This is also why the Steam Machine from Valve is such a critical piece of consumer hardware : it offers consumers who don't know better a way out from Microsoft and Apple's police-state invasion of privacy. It is no coincidence that right as it was announced, suddenly Ai needs *all* the RAM and *all* the harddrives, Discord announces it needs ID and biometrics, and now governments and states are enacting laws for Operating Systems themselves to require the same things Discord is after.The walls are closing-in, anons.
>>734247694it doesn't help that the competition is even more incompetent than MS. Google failed with their shitty chromebooks. Apple failed with their shitty Mac OS. The whole of Open sores ecosystem has been trying to dethrone windows for decades. Even Chinese funded government company efforts are struggling. The only ones who can really kill windows is MS themselves and they're failing to do that too even though they're hellbent on it.It's truly amazing how windows keeps failing it's way to success
>>734241870You dont?
>>734240231Yes, yes (you) are.
>>734240926>unless your workplace forces you to use windowsIt does.>or you are married to adobeUnfortunately I am.or autodesk trashThat one as well.It's over.
>>734239081>BazziteNo one tell him.
>>734247950Every distribution recommended by anyone who isn't joking will come with a web browser, and game compatibility is effectively the same across distributions (inb4 "n-nuh uh" from people who think their epic rolling-release distro's bleeding-edge packages are the reason they can run games that are ignoring those packages and using stable Ubuntu shit anyway because their games are running in a Steam Linux Runtime container). So I guess you should just pick a distro that doesn't come with lots of other stuff pre-installed. But if you find a distro that only has a web browser and a graphics driver, you'll probably realize that you take for granted many other things and will be mad about not having them.
>>734247727I'm already that anyway. If anyone has a problem with Windows, then I have to come to the rescue. Linux would have solved the problem of my family friend (basically aunt)'s grandchildren buying her a 64 GB HP "Streambook" which went obsolete in one year because Windows needs more than 64 GB of space. But it just didn't cross my mind at the time.Now I'm actually typing this out on my own 64 GB laptop I got for free, impossible with Windows.Windows is just for gaming and maybe some other professional software. No normie needs it. Again, just give them a button to get on Facebook. Normies have already looked at me like some hacker when I was 12 years old going through the file explorer on Windows XP. They don't need to know shit about a terminal when they can't even change a wallpaper on Windows anyway.
>>734247997>The walls are closing-in, anons.grim, but this is the future normalniggers brought upon themselves with their ignorance, the few of us tech literate will have to tinfoil it up or go off-grid
>>734248291should have just told them to get an iPad and let apple handle the tard wrangling
>>734238719installing arch on a VM through the install scriptt, pretty easy and all of my problems are VM related. Otherwise seems like a pretty good experience so far but I think I might agree that something like Cachy might do all I really need it to All i gotta figure out is how to change the neofetch to display whatever distro won't get me clowned to death on /g/ desktop threads
>>734248536>clowned to death on /g/ desktop threads>caring about what nolife, troglodyte trannytinkerers thinkyou're free to make your own mistakes I guess. The only purpouse of /g/ that's left now is learning how to gen AI porn
>>734248052Google is extra shitty because they blatantly destroy their search engine for the sake of leftist democrat agenda. Like regardless of your political beliefs even in 2016 they were manipulating search results to help Hillary.I can't even find common 4chan memes like pic-related without resorting to Russian Google alternatives that will actually give me what I ask for and not the neutered politically correct answer.
>>734248052The entire FAGMAN lineup is basically just nepobaby, consultant-infested retardation.>The whole of Open sores ecosystem has been trying to dethrone windows for decades.And they are gradually doing so as proprietary software has only declined in the last 20 years, while properly GPL licensed software has remained stable or become better
>>734248661>caring about what nolife, troglodyte trannytinkerers thinki forgot to attach the correct facetious image
>>734248370>grim, but this is the future normalniggers brought upon themselves with their ignoranceIncorrect. It is due to computer science being recognized as the future of information warfare and control of the masses by right-leaning republican and libertarian men, whom 10-15 years ago were in college, and are now in positions of power at places like OpenAI, Grok, X, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Palantir, NSA, you name it. Left leaning computer-science people either went with the EFF or did their own computer repair business because they couldn't stand working for corporations. Normies turn a wheel in the machine, but they are not building it or programming it.
>>734237984Linux steals your data
>>734248769as opposed to microsoft that legally takes it?
>>734238791It is but it kinda sucks unless you exclusively play like 5+ year old games on 5+ year old hardware.
>>734248674google tried to gobble up the internet to the point of becoming the internet and failed miserably. All they got is a bunch of pajeets writing basic bitch information blogs that tried to game their algo ranking and adsense. Everyone just pivoted to closed off places like discord where search engine crawlers can't enter. It's not just google search became shit it's also the fact that the internet shrank into a few platforms that effectively block search engines from indexing information.
>>734248370>>734248729>normalniggersDidn't we literally vote for this? Like the orange voters literally made this happen
>>734249086>We
>>734249038Not him but that's literally me.
>>734248729while it's true that lefties abhor working for the man, doesn't change the fact that they constantly try to manipulate the information flow with their manufactured bias like, socially engineering a fake narrative.
>>734249056The consolidation occurred due to copyright and was pushed by the government.The outcome of search engines becoming useless was ultimately desired by the government, since it restricts access to novel information or potentially dissenting viewpoints.If people rely entirely on a handful of AI chatbots to "sift" through slop and condense that into actionable information, then the government or more powerful interest groups(capable of leaning on the corporations providing these services) have full control over available information dissemination.The internet went from a publishing platform where one man could independently make his opinions and knowledge known to the world, back to the same 19th and early 20th century publishing hellscape of government control and censorship.
>>734245165>Retard proof.This is the best part of it, honestly. People switching to Linux are either power users who are interested in the OS and probably know what they're doing, or Windows refugees who are tired of Microsoft's bullshit and their PCs running like shit. And if you're fleeing one OS, you want what you're going to to just work. And that's what Mint does. It just werks, and provides enough of a Windows-like experience that users can quickly get used to it.
>>734249507min is only gud for nvidia brainlets, if you run an AMD system anything else is way better
>>734249330>The internet went from a publishing platform where one man could independently make his opinions and knowledge known to the worldI mean, trump did it with his Truth Social, it just that it requires more than setting up a rasbery Pi with a basic bitch html site. As the site will be instantly raped by DDoS, search engine crawlers, now AI agents and god knows what else.
>>734248674>because they blatantly destroy their search engine>type in X stuff>first result is usually a basketball related stuff before the actual stuff I wantIts fucking annoying
>>734237984They hired himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Upf_B9RLQ
This is a large scale test of sorts.Microsoft is doing this to assert dominance against the masses and reduce over population.Because if people blindly accept this, then they can do whatever they want.Find private info from your computer.Control information.Censor and block the software that you use.Even installing viruses without you knowing at all.Gradually, you'll be paying more for less features.And those who cannot afford these features will soon lose their jobs in this rapid chaotic growth. This also why they are chasing AI and cutting down the production of RAM or hard drives.They will have more and you'll have nothing.Also...Reminder that Bill Gates is a piece of shit who doesn't care about creating viruses to depopulate Earth. So I'm sure he's scheming something bigger than just wanting a new release of Windows to get more money.
>>734249943>Bill Gates is a piece of shit who doesn't care about creating viruses to depopulate EarthNigga has gone full insidious, I genuinely hope the unspeakable files tank his reputation so hard that it drags down the whole of microslop with him.that asshole has been trying to penetrate the healthcare system now by forcing Salty Nutella to buy out a tech firm that deal with peoples medical records Nuance Communications.
>>734247931Retard.
>>734250126Why is Bill Gates like this?
>>734250298compensating for the fact that he named his company after his dick
>>734237984what if im not into subscription?
>>734250393
i swear AI based OS is going to be a blunder and will destroy society. i feel indians just try to use AI to finish things quick yet there's a hole they missed and bugs will infiltrate the system. imagine if something severe happened to the healthcare system, or the airport industry.
>>734237984>which distro is the easiest to start with?Mint.>Which one should you start with if you are a bit competentArch/cachy
>>734241136And this is why the year of the Linux desktop will never come.
well microsoft, you had a good 40 years. sayonara. in fact why don't they just make a a Microsoft office at India. do they think Indians are the smartest beings on the planet and we're not? Do they think we can't write AI as well as they do? talk about virtue signaling and affirmative action.
>>734245930Systemd is bloated, and compromised. It's every bit as insecure as Windows.
>>734250259Do you have an actual argument as to why what he said was incorrect?
>>734250828That's what they're planning, yes.
>>734250927I did hear they were planning on building their own DRAM factory to stop the shortage, but why do they think everyone wants AI. Who is their audience? the zoomers, alphas, betas, and people after them aren't going to understand how a computer works or let alone know what to do if something goes wrong. they basically have everything laid out for them.
>>734237984>which distro is the easiest to start with?SteamOS
>>734250927>>734250828And this...is...to go...even...further...beyond!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *shit their pants*
i'm concerned how this will affect the medical world. equipment cost is going to skyrocket.
>>734237984>switch to Linux.b-but what about video games?
>>734242591If by general use you mean braindead retarded normiecattle, then sure. Linux is the best option for anyone with an IQ above 110.
>>734249943
>>734251045You switch to Linux to play video games, duh.
almost every CEO in America is an Indian and they would only hire positions made for Indians. all these data centers and empty offices are going to destroy our resources.
>>734249823Whatever word I search, it gives me the nearest restaurant of that name
>>734237984Mint is dead easy, and I have had zero problems with gaming with it.
>>734246951Seems to work fine according to protondb.
>>734249713>Raped by DDOSYes, the cuckflare mafia is relentless. How convenient that they can balance the load of DDOS attacks with their servers and MitM tactics that are perfectly suited to enacting DDOS attacks.
>>734243081No one cares, you're all the same.
>>734237984You niggers never follow through. You just give up at the first point of friction, but excuse all friction Windows has because you're used to it. Accept that you're goycattle and be done with it.
>>734251298Shalom
>>734251298>expecting high technical skill from barely literate gaymersLol
>>734251298Sorry Microslop but I aint interested in Binbows 11 or 12.
>>734251368Post a fastfetch screenshot or endure lifelong cattle prodding from your local rabbi.
>>734251481>t. illiterateYeah, you ain't built for Linux.
>>734249151Fair enough. In that case it'll be great for you. It's just something you need to be aware of.
>>734251541>pajeet's AI is already so shit he can't understand what's going onBinbows users in a nutshell
>>734237984>fully modularSo you can gouge out the AI and trash it?
>>734244574AI is just the excuse the technocrats are using to render personal computing completely unfeasible for normal consumers, so everyone is forced into their nightmarish ecosystem of subscription based cloud computing + digital/global ID verification. The do not want the public to have any shred of digital autonomy let alone privacy.
Fucking use AI you luddite cattle shits.
>>734240821I'll switch when more stuff just werks on linux than it does on windows. For now Linux is for work and thats it
>>734237984If you wanted to switch to Linux you would've done so already years ago. Retards like you only scream every windows release>I am switching to Linux next time just you see bill gates!And never do so. If you had any brains at all you would switch after 8If you were smart you would switch after XP because Microsoft shown anticonsumer practices alreadyAnd if you were principled you would switch after 95 because of their anticompetitive practices.But since you are a retarded golem you will never leave your cage. You will use windows and thank microslop for not boiling you faster.
and now there's talk about renting PC's on the cloud. how the fuck.>>734251608i swear it's making me go insane. i wish trump wasn't even into AI.
>>734251681What's left that doesn't work on linux? Photoshop even works on linux now.
>>734251568speaking of jeets and AI, what language are they using? Are they using their own language? maybe that's why the coding is so terrible. they can't read BASIC ENGLISH.
>>734237984For me, it's Nobara. It just werks
>>734251716>aaack pls help me orange manYou voted for this
>>734251775both parties are at fault for what they've done decade after decade.
it's time for your mandatory upgrade winfags.
all this AI made me depressed a little. I have't worked on my artwork yet I'm not even a leftist. why do you spout conservatives aren't artists?
>>734240821I'm on windows 10 and all my music program, VSTs, art and game making software DOES NOT WORK on Linux yet.I will use switch to it in maybe 6 more years when they have polished the translation programs.
>>734251825Should update it for mac now that you have to upgrade the whole computer to get latest os
>>734240926almost all workplaces will force you to use the latest Windows and Office365, and have your 2fa auth apps on your personal phone. if you dont they'll find someone else who'll do it.
>>734251887You'll never finish that game rajan
Do jeets actually produce or contribute anything of value? They’re neck-deep in most companies usually occupying the lowest or high ranking positions. Do they actually have the competence and skill to back up this over representation, or do they just scam their way up and nag others to do their work for them?
I think I'll stick to W10
>>734251952exactly. why is it white men are being replaced by foreign entities when AI does the work itself? why aren't we beind paid and yet they are. cheapskates. society is going to be in for a rude awakening coming several decades when the housing,job, and population crisis will be at an all time high. it feels like they're trying to cull the white race and make the world brown. oh and lets not forget climate change, the bullshit scam.
>>734251952They just buy their certificates and education papers and through nepotism get imported by their cousins
and wasn't there a security breach recently that AI can backtrace your history from months to years ago even if you deleted your personal history? all your account information and logs can be stolen by a hacker.
>>734240821The entire MintOS shat the bed 3 times in one day when I tried using Linux. I never had those types of problems in many years of using Windows. For all the seething it causes, W10 just works on my machine. I've never had a bigger issue than a single program shitting the bed and having to relaunch it and it works again. Just debloat it, there are many tools for it and it's infinitely easier than installing shit on Linux (where installing Steam bricks your entire OS, great design).When you act like not having brakes or a security belt in your car is good akshually because it forces you to be a "better driver", any sane person will tell you you're retarded. Linux refuses to have the most basic security features so your entire OS doesn't kill itself the second you try to change the screen's brightness.
>>734252060then what's the point of even going to school anymore. covid knocked out years of education in our students and now with AI and chatgpt, you basically have lazy people who want to be on their phones all day. god it's 3 in the morning and why am i arguing over this. bachelor's degree mean nothing anymore. doctorate's mean nothing. you have people being paid to get into schools by fraudsters.
>2020 was the start of covid>2026 now we're going all over AI.how the hell did this decade turn so messy.
>>734252156I think the war we're having everywhere is worse than ai but yes this decade sucks
>>734252273the fact that AI is overtaking everyone, people generations from now will ask what a keyboard is. horrifying. we're the last generation to use a keyboard; meanwhile the others just have tablets. in fact what language do they even code in for AI.
>>734252060Then what do they do at their jobs to stay there? I’m curious how things transpire because I’ve never worked with one (thank god)
>>734252120yeah academia has been cooked for a while now ever since it was discovered it's just a front for pumping out activists. imo the whole system should be abolished. Just focus on language and math and let children do track and field or sports activities in their free time for socializing and bond building.
speaking of education, i wonder if there's been a case of more frauds like hospices and daycare centers that aren't even schools. also AI has a lot of vulnerabilities like nukes can be launched without warning. Not to mention, AI students that don't even exist. I'm feeling fatigued by talking in this thread.
is it even possible if glowies can get into your OS via AI?
>>734252328boomers and zoomers have always been tech illiterate, all boomers know is Word/Excel/Email and browse facebook and get scammed. All zoomers know is tiktok/roblox/discord millenials and genx are the odd ones out as we grew up as it was happening so we caught on mostly.
>>734252396you mean like Somali ones?
>>734252490yes. also RAM hoarding having an impact on hosting sites dating for 20 to 30 years is a middle finger to the people.
>>734237984I'm probably not the guy to ask, since I haven't distro hopped a lot. However, I have been using Pop!_OS for a number of years, so I can comment on that, if it's one of the options you're considering. I'd say it's a better version of Ubuntu. You get less software bloat, you get sleekier UI, it comes with NVIDIA drivers preinstalled, and it uses flatpak instead of snap (a system-independent package management system I prefer). However, they changed the default desktop environment from GNOME to their own COSMIC desktop. While I like the stock experience of the latter more, it just doesn't have the extension ecosystem that GNOME has. It also shockingly lacks some basic features like having a night light. While it's promising and I do like may things about it, I'd say it's too undercooked for the time being. I also worry about the future development of the extension ecosystem, because this desktop environment is niche and to my knowledge only used by this one distro, which severely limits the userbase, which in turn severely limits how many people will be working on it. However, I think when you download the iso of the system, you can choose GNOME instead, but I'm not sure.
>>734252516oh you mean the pirate one? yeah all the worthwhile games have been ported imo and those that haven't are being decompiled as we speak
>>734237984My honest reaction to this information.
also false accusations with AI is going to be a nightmare
>>734252490Wasn't that story just made up bullshit
Linux is unironically more idiot proof than Windows is. Just setup a Ubuntu install with the latest updates for a family member and don't tell them the root password and you're literally done.
>>734251735Paint.net doesn't work. At all.That's the one program I miss from Windows.
>>734237984You guys ready for retards to claim windows 11 was always good?The same thing already happened with 8 and 10
>>734244239
Literally the only thing that can make Linux compete with Windows at this point is mass migration to Linux and the resulting tidal wave of complaints that would result from such a migration.Every single instance of trying to get a Windows software running correctly on Linux is doing ghetto fixes and constant tweaks to get it to even work properly. Linux users will try to convince you that this is a quirk and that you're retarded for not wanting to multiply the amount of time it takes for you to accomplish any task instead of admitting that having to add layers of extra work just to be able to do things Windows can do is bullshit.It's not fun, it's not cool, it's fucking annoying, and it's a flaw of Linux and it always has been and it always will be until you have hundreds of thousands of new people flooding websites with "Why is this shit fucking stupid out of the box? Why can't you just program it to work properly the first time?"
>>734237984>subscription-based, AI-focusedholy christ
>>734237984Surprised nobody mentioned Zorin OS. It's got windows UI and can run .exe files.
>>734252827>Every single instance of trying to get a Windows software running correctly on Linux is doing ghetto fixes and constant tweaks to get it to even work properly. No, you literally install wine and that's it. >It's not fun, it's not cool, it's fucking annoying, and it's a flaw of Linux and it always has been and it always will be until you have hundreds of thousands of new people flooding websites with "Why is this shit fucking stupid out of the box? Why can't you just program it to work properly the first time?"Well, Linux is not Windows, so I don't really know what you expect considering you're running non-native software compiled for a different operating system. Windows requires way more work to run Linux programs than vice-versa. But again, Wine works out of the box
>>734252596problem Is I'd still need another windows computer for all my old programs and games that linux wont run properly.
>>734252965dual booting is how i first switched to linux.you just choose whether to load linux or windows when you start the computer.
>>734252965Cool anon, have you actually tried simply installing and running them through Wine though?
>>734241823> am not installing your tranny OS so that I can run into a situation where a game I really wanna play doesn't run properly.already happens on windows
>>734237984>free version with ads for poorfags >1 time purchase with no ai or ads for normal people>subscription version with ai for freak retardsThere, I fixed it
>>734252991I still have my old Windows partition from years ago. Don't even remember the last time I booted into it. Should probably nuke it.
>have a bunch of random pirated vidya on my second SSD from my old Windows install>Switch to Linux>install Wine>literally all the games work just fine, even some esoteric shit works fineLinux really does just work. If you're struggling you might be retarded man
>>734237984Why do people think they need to upgrade?You so captured by corporations?
>>734237984Don't care. i have win 10 iot ltsc enterprise 'til 2032.
>>734237984I tried installing linux mint and everything went smooth running my browser and playing low res games but the second I tried playing higher res games like space marine 2, I was getting like 10 fps. Spent like 4 hours debugging said fuck it and reinstalled win 11. Are there any linux distros that "just work" where I can just install steam on it and play games without spending hours debugging why your games are fucked.
>>734237984I'd like to, but I have an old nvidia gpu. Maybe when I upgrade.
>>734253114thisand guess what I'll do when 10 LTSC ends?I'll swap to the 11 LTSC which will have had 6 years to fix all of its problems just like how windows 10 had a rough startcheckmate linuxfags
>>734253198>dry-aged shit is better than fresh shitgot me there
>>734253238True for steak.
>>734253162Nobara or CachyOS
>>734237984Lmao they are so brown and jewish, all Gaben has to do is release SteamOS for PCs and that will rape the microjeet
>>734253269>NobaraHomophobe
>>734253326Why?
>>734252816Saaar Binbos 11/12 is never being good.10 is having mitigation and 8 is never appreciated.
>>734253269CachyOS is the only answer. Fuck Mint, fuck Ubuntu and fuck Debian.
>>734253303>all Gaben has to do is release SteamOS for PCsIt already is for PCs since it's just a highly containerized version of Arch with a custom frontend. You can just configure Arch in the same exact way if you really wanted to. It's no like Gaben has access to exclusive drivers or anything
It's nearly here, you're all going back!!
>>734253384I'd say the ONLY answer is pure Arch. But that's only for people with at least two braincells to rub against each other...
>>734253406>loves in pathtracing
>>734253303>just wait for SteamOSI fucking hate you Linux tourists. You niggers can't handle braindead dogshit like Bazzite. What will make SteamOS any different? Time to come to terms with the fact that you're just retarded and computers just might not be for you.
>>734253440>1920x1080lol
>>734239131It means they can modularly add more bloat spyware
>>734253458>consolefag greentexting resolutionsIt looks like "4K" to you?
>>734244750free in the same way youtube is free sure.
>>734253520oh shit what now?
>>734253642It's the Oblivion jeet again
>>734253405>You can just configure Arch in the same exact wayBut I don't want to>>734253449I literally couldn't give two shits, lmao. Computers are toys and you're a homosexual manchild the same way redditors are.
>>734241587Choose Debian then>bbut muh imageit's a conference, only fags who pay and corpos who are being paid go to them. There is no middle ground.Debian being a non-corpo project has 0 people who aren't fags going to conferences.The makeup of the conferences doesn't determine the makeup of the project.
>>734242039Debian is better than mint only if proprietary drivers being included with system gives you autistic meltdown. Normal people only care if it works or works well which may be the case if you have proprietary drivers
>>734253668
>>734253384>Fuck Mint (Debian), fuck Ubuntu (Debian) and fuck Debian.Is this a bait? :D
>>73425281611 is fucking shit. I hate it.Like just TDR after TDR after TDR. Not on Win10, not on Linux. Only on Win11.
>>734244574because AI is improving exponentially duhjust wait 14 seconds and it will have already improved. i bet if you prompted that again it would work and solve a 100 year old unsolved mathematical problem at the same time. now just imagine where it will be in a year. AI god time i am ready
>>734253724No Debian is better because it doesn't have the extra Ubuntu enshittification.LMDE is fine though, it's just minty Debian.
>>734237984>I guess it’s time to switch to Linux>no, seriously, for realsies this times, super-cerealWe totally believe you. This time.
>>734253830AI can't solve math problems at all.It can do some incredible things, but basic math just isn't one of them.
tiny windows 12 soon>t. posted from my tiny 11 machine
>>734253849I've been maining Ubuntu for the past couple of years now and have no desire to switch back to Windows
>>734242801>thank you master for beating me less
Don't switch to Linux. Please.Stay on your shitty-ass Windows. As long as possible.Last thing we need is a bunch of zoomer trash in our midst.
>>734245050>turn your PC into a brickI am relatively tech illiterate and the only time i fucked my shit is when laptop battery died during pacman -Syu, i almost never had to tinker with anything.
>>734244574the majority of people are using AI just as google and are widely impressed by it>ChatGPT how long do I cook my steak?>Claude how do i change the background on my computer?>Mr Deepseek what was Ancient Greece like?all things you could get the same answer if you just typed into google well used to anyway. google trashed their search engine to and force every query to push you to a shop that is buying adsense impressions>>734253887that was true like 1 hour ago. but after the exponential improvements of AI it can now. By tomorrow it might have solved every single one
>>734253830Not to sound too much like some AIbro, but seriously man, you've got the memory of a goldfish that likes to bonk its head on the glass if you think AI isn't improving at a scary rate.Like bruh, only a few years ago, text couldn't be done at all in AI images unless you reroll 99999 times, and "vibe coding" didn't even exist. Now we've got full AI videos with built-in AI audio with voices fooling people on social media regularly.
>>734253981>I am relatively tech illiterate and the only time i fucked my shit is when laptop battery died during pacman -Syu,IIRC not even that will fuck your shit up since you can just go into Grub and boot the last known bootable state and just run the update again. I remember how esoteric Linux was back in the 2000s, which I suspect is a lot of Windows users ITTs impression of it but it really isn't like that anymore
>>734254023>>734253985>>734253830lmao, AI can't even Use the scroll bar below to find the image that is not like the others. Advancing my ass
>>734253919well its not like they will be logging to your machine
>>734238763In all honesty, I doubt that'll work how they are planning it out. Ai will have high failure chance, especially when servers are busy. I doubt llm will bring any significant productivity at all. So what, win 10 is dead, how to use a computer now? Linux is impossible to use. Anyone that had to update kernels knows what I'm talking of.
>>734254225Gentrification kills soul.
>>734251224Can't fucking wait for cloudflare to do an oopsie and bringing down 75% of global internet with them one day. Funniest thing is everyone will still use the fucking thing after the fact.
>>734240083they're embedded in basically the entire world's structural IT sector.there's a reason parts of the government still use window's from the mid 2000's and it's because reworking them into modern age technology would take to long and cost to much and would fuck up entire sectors of the worlds logistical management. MS can afford to make these mistakes since it has already become a vital branch of world governments (like NVIDIA is so desperately trying to become as well with it's lean into military applications of its technology).
>>734254023it's not improving that quickly. there was an immediate jump with the LLM craze but it has slowed down significiantlymy favorite example is for video gen. people still compare back to the will smith eating spaghetti from 2023 to show how far video gen has come. what they conveniently leave out is that you had working videos of smith eating spaghetti in early 2024. you don't see them comparing videos from 2024 to 2025 to 2026 because you will see the amount of improvement isn't that impressive. there has been a lot of growth in the short term but is slowing down a lot now. all these "tiny problems" that need to be ironed out for AI to become a usable and useful product are in fact not tiny and will require hundreds of times more work than it took to get AI to it's current position. but that's not very marketable so they pretend that these things can just be polished off in a few years
>>734239805Likely the best move, seeing how ps4 will get games until 2027 and ps won't come before 2030
people claiming an OS is shit. Like what the fuck are you doing on it which makes it shit?
>doing a project that requires I look up obscure ancient greek texts>Easy fucking shit, literally just behave like a google search engine. Find the passage I ask for, give me the citation location. It's in english too so it doesn't have to worry about it.>It hallucinates something from Xenophon's Cyropaedia to sycophantically try and satisfy me by adding in bullshit that was never in any (adding some shit about cypriots using the bow and javelin, the passage never mentions that whatsoever)It did pretty good elsewhere, I found it very valuable as a search engine but it's just so funny to me that it fucked up on such an easy way. It's like if you searched on google pre AI for"Nissan dealerships near me" and google came up with a fake address and wrong phone number for you all because it wanted to satisfy your request.It's done good for me elsewhere it's just so weird to me that it still fucks up
>>734253764You never play any good games, you anglo wigger.
>>734254391>>734254234Ai will have an error rate of ~25%
when you prompt ask it to also verify its findings
>>734254113It's artificially intelligent
>>734254461>just tell it to not make mistakesif only it were that easy.
>>734254453>75% chance it gets shit rightChrist alive I'd only use it for googling and validate anything I am suspicious of.
>>734254425But at least they're not running at 1080p. lol
>>734254556why don't you try it first before dismissing it
>>734240821>fucking insane how many people want their games and software to just work instead of needing to troubleshoot for hours to have shit not work in the end anyway
>>734237984I'll take anything over 11 at this point.
>bazzite on one drive>windows on another for multiplayer shit
>Linux makes a version that just behaves and looks like Windows.>Stop being so smug and autistic about everything.>Unifies behind a single primary version so developers can actually make sure shit works.>Support things people actually want to use and not have a shitfit about dumb shit nobody cares about.>Overtakes Windows overnight.Shame such things aren't possible.
What are you doing with your OS which is causing issues for you?
>>734247440What security issues does google have that MS doesn't
can linux just be a normal OS without the bullshit just to play a game
>>734254721No.
>>734243085>2 literal who historical revisionists and an asserted appeal to authorityBlow it out your ass, nigger.The Greeks invented 10+ different forms of love. The ideals of the Greco-Roman period are completely alien to the gynocentric numale. Homosexuality was generally frowned upon, was lambasted in plato's republic and frequently used as an insult. The fact that there will always be sexually deviant noblemen, who are an extremely small minority, is in no way indicative of the mean. If niggers like you were born 1000 years in advance you'd think being a furry was common because of all the furry porn which existed.
>>734254758>t. has learning disability (and probably brown hands)
>>734253903>I've been maining Ubuntu for the past couple of years nowThen I'm not talking to you, troon.
