Xbros, we are back!
Hybrid console is real. Now give us a price that isnt 4 digits.
>>734357198So THIS is why Sony stopped porting games to Pc lmao
So it's a PC
>>734357198
>>734357417With an xbox emulator.
>xboxwho the fuck cares dude?
>>734357198Looks like she finally got an english speaking intern to proofread her tweets first
>>734357198so it's gonna compete with the steam machine?
>>734357198>>734357417big if true
>>734357198Releasing in 2027?
>>734357198YEEEEESSSS NOW WE CAN FINALLY PLAY PC GAMES FUUUUCCKKKK WHY DIDN'T ANYONE SELL PC'S BEFORE THIS IS HUUUUGEEEEEE
>>734357506>who the fuck cares about new hardwareretard
ok? it wont be releasing for 6-7 years.
>>734357634Amd is delivering the chips in 2027.
They already sell computers, what the fuck. What is the disconnect with these retards? Did they really take Nintendo's bait console and make a new one just to say they did?
I never stopped believing.
>>734357198the only potentially good thing about this is that it might mean MS will finally get off their ass and do something useful with directXthe main issue is I could also see them making directX even worse
It's going to be $1000 or higher.
>no games
>>734357713Focusing on pc is a good thing tho.
>>734357519I bet it will be similar but more locked down. Less so than current consoles, but it won't quite be a whole PC.
>>734357417Yeah basically. Xboxes already basically just run a riced-out Windows version with mucked around API calls.
I'm not going to trust Microsoft anymore.
>>734357780for the ram alone
>>734357789>>734357789it's literally going to have every game
>>734357814Assuming that they aren't completely kayfabing everything, given all other indications are that Xbox is just dead as a brand, they're probably going to be flirting with how much of "it's just a PC" they can get away with selling it as before getting legally slapped for selling a PC as a console. If they try using Steam as a tagline it'll be all over for them, Valve will not take kindly to that.
>>734357198If it has a disc drive and plays all my previous games, I’ll buy it.
>new hardware announced>/v/ does not give a fuckWhat happened to the xbox brand bros?Even that dogshit underpowered Gabecube made more waves here.
>>734357506It's new video game hardware getting announced. Hard not to care, even if it is Xbox.
>>734357813I bet this is the reason nvidia isn't releasing cards this year. Maybe the new strat is to just buy up the hardware that makes them better than consoles. It's sad too because it's all just to make consoles roleplay a fucking PC, it's just a waste at this point to even make a console. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE AN OS AND SELL COMPUTERS.
>>734358071Because it is going to be like $1200
>>734358025there's an interesting implication herewill this mean the project helix, so-called, will be able to play sony-exclusives such as spidey and ghosts of sushi due to their availability as pc games also
NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN
>>734358071My man all of us xbots just spent 15 years watching xbox try and fail to recover from a single bad press conference, cancel more than half of the announced games that actually looked cool, and replace the last white male gamer in a leadership role with an indian woman who wants AI in everything. Let us rest.
>>734358071Pajeetsoft
>>734357963it's going to have total parity with pc, so why bother?
im convinced its gonna be some retarded console/pc/stadia streaming aberration with a concord-size flop coming first to it.
>>734358071>What happened to the xbox brand bros?Gee I fucking wonder>don mattrick completely torpedos all good-will from the 360 by going too hard too fast on le heckin big brother console>phil spencer does his level best to hit capitalistic faggotry apotheosis by buying any name of import in the western industry so he can feed the eternal consumption engine of game pass>sarah bond basically announces that xbox is irrelevant by advertising "this is an xbox">newest management is most probably a fall-girl, indian "AI expert" who didn't have any business experience before the AI boom
Is this why PlayStation isn’t releasing games on pc in the future?
>>734358071We already have PCs. Why would we want one that's locked down?
>>734357198>will play your PC gamesSo they put Steam on it?
>>734357417that plays xbox games, which are all on PC already
>>734357198>confirmed PC with an Xbox logo
>>734358309Yeah probably, since every "rumor" says it will have Steam and Epic.
>>734358071This is just a pc
>>734358159It depends entirely on its ability to access Steam, something Valve could very easily say "no" to and put Microsoft in the biggest bind of their life. Would they contest Valve shutting their """console""" out and give up the scheme that it's supposed to be a console by calling it a PC and putting the system under a completely different set of regulations and expectations, additionally confirming that they don't have an answer to Switch 2/PS6, or would they take it on the chin so as to keep calling it a console while also removing a decent reason to buy it as a soft Steam Machine
>>734358309Probably partially but UMPCs playing the same games the PS6 handheld does probably factors in too.
>>734358286this was always the idea with the xbox to begin withit's like a pc you play like a playstationmicrosoft were dying to have a console that functioned like a pc and played pc games back thenthey actually kind of lost their waythey're talking big talk though so like don't get me wrong, I am not defending microslop right nowprobably be loaded with AI and mods won't be allowed because it'll brick your console
>>734358352Yes, egs, gog and other dogshit too lol
>>734358071Xbox doesn't have anything to offer that you can't get on PC.
>>734357417This is probably not as bad as you think it is. Consoles already became glorified PC because they went with the x86 architecture since the PS4, so the way they lock games is kinda nonsensical. But if you have a Steam Machine or a XboxPC or PSPC, you still ultimately end up with 1 spec, and the process of porting an upcoming video game is no less easy than it was before. It means you can always trust that you're getting an optimized game for the known spec of the home console, even if it's technically "just a PC".The problem with PC gaming is they have to work with the fluidity of the custom spec, which is why we end up having to build shaders ourselves, while on a ConsolePC they'll still be able to ship shaders and just deliver the kino directly into your anal canals.
>>734358309Playstation isn't releasing games on PC in the future because they were already halfassing their ports, they're really horny to keep that 30% of each sale that Steam would be taking from them otherwise, and your game basically doesn't exist on PC if you can't buy it on Steam so that's not an option. They did it in the first place to "give you a taste of what Playstation has to offer" and basically they got really fucking mad that Playstation games were doing better on Steam than on Playstation.
>>734358483it's actually really interesting when you put it like thatyou can almost see what the big players are trying to do here"soft Steam Machine"everyone is trying to undercut each other to get each others games on their consoles without upsetting each other to the point where they can't
I’ll buy it if it has a disc drive
>>734357198wasn't the last xbox meant to have games that worked on windows?
Why is Microsoft still trying?
It never made sense to make a console when you have an OS to begin with. This is what they should have done since the beginning
Can I play Xbox and Xbox 360 games locally without emulators?
I like the idea of an Xbox prebuilt PC, I'm looking forward to the steam Machine but I'm sure MS will still charge for online making their offering even more pointless from the get go.
Xbox doing this and Sony recanting on putting PS games on PC is actually pretty interesting. It'll depend on how free the PC side of this is, but it could have a legitimate edge there.
>>734358772Lol noWork is ongoing for fans to do that anyways, Sonic Unleashed already has a recompilation made from its Xbox 360 version
>>734357198How does this work for Xbox-only games with no PC version?NHL is a console-only series that requires a gamepad to play. What happens if I boot up NHL 28 on my Xbox Helix? Will this thing play GTAVI before the native PC version is out? Will I still need a subscription to play games online?
>prebuilt but xboxAt least the steam machine has soul
>>734357198>Will Play Both Xbox and PC gamesSo it's just going to be a prebuilt PC?
>Xbox games...such as?
>>734358883With built in Xbox emulators!
>Built on windows 12>subscription required Doa
If this actually plays Xbox og and 360 games well and it's under 1k ( probably not) it's pretty good better than fagmachine
>>734357417A PC for retards that hate freedom
Why does it have to be the next console?What is stopping them from introducing an update to XSX that adds an unbloated Console Windows that runs Steam right now?
>>734358125it is actually very easy to not care, as it turns out
>>734359046W12 sub required alongside the sub to play online.
>>734358847So I'll continue using Xenia and Xemu
>>734359114Being forced to sell them as PCs and not consoles
>>734357198I imagine it will cost $100 more than the PS5 ProSo its price will be $700
>>734358309This + steam machines most likely scared them away
>>734357198Somehow Xbox returned.
>>734359046More like AI subscription required
It's going to be lucky to sell 5 million units. No one is paying $1500 for an Xbox that has Steam.
>>734357506>Clown just finished his new joke>You're not ready to laughStop being a bunkus in the sludge, anon.
>>734357198damn we are eating gud bro!
>>734358071once consoles became a trap that requires a subscription to do anything online I lost all interest in them
fuck sony
>>734357276stop noticing things.
>>734357198How the Xbox brand is still alive is a mystery to me.
>>734359184I think your numbers are off
>>734357417just like vidya consoles like PS5
>A PC but objectively worse and less capable in every wayI hate video games
>>734358071https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
SELL YOUR PISS 5SELL Y9UR SHITCH 2XBOX IS BACK BAYBEE
>>734358772We magically destroyed that technology
>>734359357you just described the steam machine
>>734357198Can't wait to have custom tailored skippable AI generated ads on my dashboard (and when I skip them after 10 seconds of watching them anyways, they fire missiles to on Palestinian hospital)
>>734357482Xbox games are all on PC. It doesn't need an emulator. Unless you're talking old xbox games but PC has those emulators too.
>>734359332So $749? I had forgotten that all consoles have gone up in price in recent years
>>734358309No it's because they are utterly retarded. Anything else is speculation with no evidence while this is a fact that many claim has been debunked but I am rebunking it.
>>734359352But ps5 can't play... anything, and ps6 will be the only way to play apiderman? God of war? Gran turismo? Because sony are shitting themselves
>people who want a pc get a pc>people who want a console with decent specs get a playstationwho the fuck is left that would want a mix of those two without the pros of either ??
>>734358140They probably still chase their dream of having a M$ product in every room of a house controlling every piece of media.
>>734357198So the new eckbok is just a limited PC
>>734357417how dare you make sense like that
>>734359502>who the fuck is left that would want a mix of those two without the pros of either ??And no exclusives. There really is no point getting an Xbox anymore.
>>734359502Sunk cost Xbox fans that don't want to leave their game library behind and that will get breadcrumbed into the PC ecosystem?
>>734358306Thank you blessed Don.
>>734359461But pc doesnt have an official xbox emulator... yet.
>no exclusives left everything goes to pc instantly at the same time>less and less people care about microslop games anyways Who is the target audience for a locked down prebuilt pc?
>>734359612>I want daddy Microsoft to sell me romsFuck off
>>734359645What's the target audience for a console with no exclusives? Atleast a prebuilt pc gives you more gaming options.
>>734357417I'd be surprised if its even that anon. More likely to just be something to connect to a cloud service.
>>734357198wtf is the point of this, it wont play steam games, so what pc games are there?
>>734358071Announced is a strong word, this is basically a teaser. People will care more we get specs and looks and not just a project name.
>>734359462$849fuck
Xbros are back. They kind of still look like they're 16 too. I can't believe it.
>>734359368Xbox really never recovered from this.
releasing a console in this environment, what is it gonna run on a fucking arm chip?
Windows has dogshit controller support. Xinput is a joke and doesn't even let you reorder controllers without restarting the entire fucking computer. Xbox full screen environment fucking sucks because you still get dialog box popups from PC games that expect a mouse and keyboard. And you still are stuck with garbage Windows kernel anticheat that's still worse than Xbox hardware level antipiracy and anticheat. This is Xbox waving the white flag. They literally don't care anymore.
>>734357417Yeah. A microsoft built PC. Which is actually a good idea now. Currently off the shelf PC parts are a gorillion dollars and rising. If they can lock in a good deal with AMD or subsidized the price, then they might actually be the best way to get into PC gaming for the next couple years.
>>734359298If Sony stops releasing on PC, you say shit like this; if they keep releasing on PC, you say they are deaperate. You retarded thirdies just want to shit on the Japanese because of envy and YOU WILL NEVER BE YELLOW.
>>734359137Plus the additional sub to stream the game at 1080p because the actual device with will be powered by a laptop processor
>>734359502Consolefags just want something they can easily hook up to their TV, use a game controller to control and start playing. Even if this is basically a PC, as long as it can do and doesn't cost $1000 then they won't care. The Steam Machine is literally just a PC too and people were hyping that up until it became clear that it wasn't going to be cheap.
>>734357198If they’re really planning on selling this for a premium and it’s $700 or up, it’s dead. They have shown people for the past 2 gens that they don’t want to have exclusives and the games they put out (after surviving countless delays and cancellations) are almost always mediocre.
I don't understand why /v/ is mad at this.XBOX as a console lost it's purpose 13 years ago, a prebuilt PC is a much better option compared to buying a console with no exclusives.
>>734357198>Steam Machine but on Shitdows CopilotNo thanks / Not interested
why would i buy an xbox PC if i already have an PC?
>>734357417Not necessarily. There are two routes this can go. Either it is just a PC but to me that seems like a 'why bother making this at all?' situation because they'll have to produce them, deal with faults/warranties/legal and then lose most game sales to Steam.The alternative is that it's locked to Windows store and other storefronts Microsoft want to partner with. This means if publishers want sales from Xbox they just need to publish their Windows binary to Windows store, have controller support and maybe an Xbox-specific config file. That's trivial compared to supporting Xbox currently and gets both Xbox and Windows store more game releases.
>>734359954Amd. The specs leak if you believe mlid.
>>734358573>Consoles already became glorified PC because they went with the x86 architecture since the PS4I remember failoverfl0w sperging about PS4 not being a PC (as in IBM-PC compatible computer) because of its schizophrenic architecture
>>734360092You can play Playstation games there, which I think is a big plushttps://store.steampowered.com/franchise/playstationstudios/
>>734360156You can play your xbox game collection on it too
>>734359461There's a difference between saying it's a PC so you can emulate old games, and the machine simply being able to do proper backwards compatibility with your Xbox library the same way a Series X does. Having console-like functionality that way on top of the PC side. Which is what one hopes is the case, but they haven't explicitly clarified yet
>>734357417What many of you are missing is that Xbox versions of video games are not direct port-for-port copies of the PC version. So are they announcing that they will be now? Because consoles do a shit ton of hidden work under the hood to work smoothly compared to all the issues you have on PC. Is that not the case any more, it will be interesting to see how that pans out.And what about UIs? Again console versions of games have their own ui frameworks usually. And it's 50/50 on carrying some mouse or keyboard support. This would fundamentally change how developers make games
I don't care about this news, I just want all tendies to be raped and tortured to death.
>>734359357>I hate video gameswe know, /v/, we know
>>734357198So with this and the xbox play anywhere PC will get actual physical versions again. Nice.
>>734357198>be me>PC chad because love freedom>have PS3, PS4 and Vita because jailbreaking is easy >and homebrew is fun>360 has no fun homebrew so don't have it>XOne is so dead that it has no jailbreak >same for Serieswhat's the point of Helixbox if it's just a fucking PC? Even a freetard like me would just buy a PC + hacked PS6 Portable
>>734358607the trend wasn't looking good for sony, their sequels are just the same shit but with more annoying characters and less gameplay
Too bad it'll be $1000 for pretty much the same spec as a Series X with no upgradability for PC half of it.
>>734357813Not for Xbox.
>>734360607You won't buy a pc because there is a systematic effort being undertaken to make you never afford your own pc again. Join the dots. This will be your own affordable option
>>734358772Yes for the games that are supported in xbox backwards compatibility program.
>>734360693>systematic effort being undertaken to make you never afford your own pc againI'm an AM4 chadAM4 being revived pleases me
>>734357198>You can play Helldivers 2 without having to pay online like on PS5I think I understand why Sony no longer wants to port games to PChttps://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/microsofts-ambitious-new-xbox-your-entire-console-library-the-full-power-of-windows-pc-gaming-and-more
A RETURN TO FORM BABY
I dont even have a ps5 or series xbox yet
>>734357198we just had the new xbox console few years agowtf is this generation
>>734360054>people were hyping thatPaid valve posters are not people.
>>734360627leaks say 5080 performance but idk
>>734360832same desumight get PS5 as PS4 Pro Pro (for Bloodborne and Astrobot), though
>>734357198>The XBox: The box that will do everything Direct X related>The Xbox 360: We will make sure everything APIs saturate the full spectrum>The Xbox One: Everyone will have to go through us to do anything>The Series S/X: It's another one I guess>Project Helix: Failure is in our DNAYou can really feel the declining confidence.
>>734360892I would legitimately just emulate Bloodborne instead, the frame pacing makes that game nauseating to play on Playstations. It sucks too, Bloodborne has some fucking funny messages laid around
>>734360873For $3000 maybe. They'll obviously lean heavy on FSR4 so they can advertise it as a 4K 60fps+ machine.
>>734360862>The Steam Machine is literally just a PC too and people were hyping that up until it became clear that it wasn't going to be cheap.I don't know about you but I was rooting for Steam Machines because of SteamOS going full desktopeven with hardware being expensive as shit I still wait for GNU/Linux for Normalfags
>>734360774If the PS+ subscription money for Helldivers 2 was that important to Sony, I don't think they would have released PC and Xbox Series versions of it
>>734360843Xbox Series SX and PS5 are 6 years old.
>>734360892yeah I'm getting a ps5 next month. I just wanna play bloodborne again and some other sony games like infamous
>>734360960>the frame pacing makes that game nauseating to play on Playstationsjailbreak + patch
>>734360618Why don't include the numbers for Helldivers 2? The game sold twice as many copies as PS5
>>734357417Yes, literally. A PC sold the same way like a console would actually be viable right now.
After 5 years i still play my Series S daily and i don't care what anyone has to say about it
>>734361000You guys really want to use an OS that is only capable of playing games? Might as well just buy a PS6.
>>734361040>just do way more work for a worse result than emulation AND you still don't have messages
>crossplay built straight inconsolefags are about to get their assholes reamed out
>>734361141>You guys really want to use an OS that is only capable of playing games?Anon I'm on Debian I just want normalfags free from the Microslop/Crapple hell
>>734360105but anon it can play your games for you!
>>734361206Don't use banned words
>>734361056>companies spend a year absolutely trashing the market on ingredients and hiking prices on pizza to $200>hey, we've made a new pizza for $100 dollars >suddenly this looks good
>>734361174>>just do way more work for a worse result than emulationjailbreaking PS4 and 5 is a matter of getting a flash drive >worse resultpatches on emus are literally copied from console versions, retard t. installed "mods for shadPS4" on my slim PS4
>>734357198They were already doing that with the "This is an X-box" bullshit of Bonds. Just now they're canning the Chink ROG Ally X before putting out THEIR branded $1000 'Eck clone that still won't have Trackpads.>>734357417Always has been.X-box 180 was a Pentium 3 after all.
>>734361256Microslop>MicroslopMicroslop>MicroslopMicroslop
>>734361108bro, I love you, I appreciate the S for the year or so I had it, but do yourself a favour and trade it in for a second hand series x upgrade. It's dirt cheap and half your games won't be muddy 720 or 824p shit anymore. Some game versions are absolutely fucked on S especially Xbone
>>734361239>it will have gachasokay? Cool, I guess
>>734359332>>734359184holy fucking shut up you indian degenerate faggot
>>734357198meh
>>734357417A PC with a locked down bootloader to keep you from turning it into a Linux machine.
And Sony will release the PS6 after and more powerful
Who's willing to bet this won't come out and Helix will go the way of Milo?
>>734361608>more powerfulNot likely
>>734357198Saarbox, give her a bikini
>>734361362No i won't do it. i like my Series S and i don't particularly care if the resolution is 720-900p in some bigger games. I grew up playing on a shitty windows 98 PC. i didn't care about resolution then and i still don't now. i just like my Series S
>>734360618>>734361017>>734361053The problem is that these idiots at Sony don't understand that PC people will buy more games if two things happen>The game is good.>The game is released day one on PCEven if a game is good, if you sell it months or years later, it will sell lessThey also shouldn't expect a game released later to sell at full price, as in the case of Death Stranding 2 published now by SonyAll PS5 games ported to PC cost $60, like Rift Appart and Spider-Man 2. DS2 is the first game to cost $70
>>734361723I respect that. In the future you can turn it into a beefy little emulation machine too btw but MS did softlock this behind 20 bucks. I was gonna do that and keep it as a portable
>>734357198>Premium VersionThat will $1499.99 + tax + delivery fee + environmental surcharge>Poorfag Version with only 500 GB SSD, no disc drive, and half the ramThat will be $999.99 + tax + delivery fee + environmental surcharge
>>734361918>no disc drive>implying 10th gen of consoles will have a disc drivelmao
>>734361608Giving xbox a year or so for their next gen hardware is the nightmare sony never ever wants to give them after the ps360.
>>734361608Nope. PS6 is leaning more into Switch approach (under powered and cheaper) than a premium (Xbox Helix). It will fall somewhere between Nintendo's conservative specs and Xbox's high-end/premium specs.
>>734359108So a console?
>>734361608Not according to leaked specs.
>>734362013normalfags that play sportsball games don't really care about premium graphics if Helixbox is a "premium only" console Xbox department might as well end their business
>>734357276Pretty much. It's hilariously petty if you think about it because of how much of a non-factor the modern xbox brand is.
>>734362132They care. Remember ps4 and xbone?imagine if ps6 is way underpowered than Helix. There will be an uproar and would be catastrophic for sony.
Not trying to be an arsehole or console war or anything but I genuinely don't understand how Xbox still has fans.
>>734362321>Remember ps4 and xbone?One was slightly below PS4main problem with One was a higher price tag on launch and just shittier user experience also no JB. I remember one bar having a hacked PS4 just for Fifa kek
honestly, all xbox fans should be split in two at the dick, visciously
>>734362418>but I genuinely don't understand how Xbox still has fansAnon there are people who vote for communism and support Gnome's design choices some people are just genuinely retarded
>>734361362I only have a 1080p tv. I'm fine with the S, budget gaming is its whole point. so far only Doom TDA has looked muddy to me. which xbone games are fucked?
>>734357198>Steam machine but cringe
>>734357198I hope this results in us getting perfect HUEG/360 emulation on PC.
>>734357506me you faggot
>>734357198Wont play ALL XB360 games.Fucking dropped.
What goofy ahh name are they gonna call this thing? My bet is Xbox Copilot
>>734361728The flip side of that is if the game is released on PC on day one, there's less reason for anyone to buy a PS5. The PS5's value comes from being able to play a game a year or two or three before everyone else
>>734362418It's not that I want to be a fan, it's just I have a collection of xbox discs that I can't sell because they're worth nothing so I might as well stay in the xbox ecosystem, if it's supported...
>Neuro streams: she is funny entertaining having a chill good time >Evil streams : terrible ragebait gameplay, philosophy slop spam non stopYeah just remove her
>>734357417Yes, and a console.No contradiction.
PC chuds win again......
>>734357198THIS IS HOW THE DRILL WORKS
It will play gta6 on release.
>>734357198>pc boxSo they're going to package it with copilot to artificially bloat usage numbers for shareholders.
>>734362773Anon?
>>734362418we got a 360 when the 360 was the shit. built a digital library and gamerscore and now we can't let go.
>>734362830It will presumably play the backwards compatible 30fps Series X version of GTA 6 on release. We don't know if a PC version will exist by then
>>734357198xsaar jeetlixno thank you. I'm done with microslop.
>>734357198It was always retarded that Xbox couldn't play PC games since it already used x86 processors and used a Windows based OS. My best guess as to why it couldn't before was because Microsoft was trying to push their retarded WinRT infrastructure onto everyone before
>>734357417every console is a pc
penis
>>734362915I legitimately collected platinum trophies on hacked PlayStation systems just to have it all 404dgive zero fucks about itwho cares about muh gamerscore? Do you play games for stats or for games themselves?
>PC with extremely limited Xbox emulator, built in DRM and paid onlineok lmao
>>734362736>The PS5's value comes from being able to play a game a year or two or three before everyone else>being able to play before everyone elseIf you told that about PS5 to a PS4 player, they would laugh in your face
>>734363040
>>734362976>My best guess as to why it couldn't before was because Microsoft was trying to push their retarded WinRT infrastructure onto everyone beforeUWP actually
>>734363035that's not a prophecy, that's a currently factual information!
How jam packed full of AIslop “features” will this thing be?
We in the PC Master Race Movement officially won. Why isn’t 4chan more excited? Shouldn’t we ALL be celebrating? What was our movement for?
this is what they should have done 13 years ago. it's too late now
>>734362976No, the OG X-box stripped out most of Win XP to run a faster Pentium 3 PC-console ability. Similar to how the Dreamcast used Win Custom Embedded for its system (because Naomi [Segas Arcade board that the Dreamcast was based on] was using Win 2000 IIRC).It's just that when they had everyone chuckle at their (X)Boner, they didn't pivot fully onto beating Valve to a PC-Console hybrid with a PC OS.
>>734363109thisbought PS4 to play TLOU, GoW, Uncharted and other gameshave yet to play 1886, R&C and inFamous PS5 literally has no games that interest me except for Astrobot but that shit isn't Tearaway to justify being locked to PS5 so I'm just gonna wait
Surely this means paying for online is dead, and GamePass becomes purely a rental service?
>>734363317>Similar to how the Dreamcast used Win Custom Embedded for its systemiirc Win parts were optional for devs to use
>>734363319even when counting Sony games that ended up being on PC, Sony's first party PS5 library is shit
>>734362265sony would much rather shoot themselves in the foot and castrate their game sales than port it to xbox lmao
>>734363230The moment you start it, you die.
>>734357198Oh boy can't wait to play some retarded top down indie slop instead of my AAA and AA games
>>734363436>Sony's first party PS5 library is shitwhat's even on PS5 anyway?>Demon's Slopsoriginal was better>Nigger-Man 2gay and retarded>GoW 2 (5)gay and retarded>TLOU Remaster Remaster++lmao
>>734363268Before reddit took it over nobody wanted to convert consolebabs, just laugh at them. We wanted them to keep playing consoles
>>734358573Consoles are just computers at the end of the day, the split doesn't make sense anymore.
>>734363230AI will play the game for them. Then Gen Alpha kids will tip the AI with mom's credit card like it's their favorite streamer.
>>734357198they’re scared that steam distributing a Linux based system will demolish them
What's the point of new (probably $800+) hardware if all the games suck ass?
>>734357198free online btw
Does this means better PC optimization?
>>734363604It'll emulate the old good games really well
>>734363068I used to care about the stats. now I mostly care about the 200 games in my library.
>>734363726just pirate old stuff
>>734357198I have over 250 games on my XboxMight as well I post my Xbox backlog, I never touch my Series Xhttps://poal.me/pc8kpcAlso Xbox needs to revive the Backwards Compatibility program pronto and renew licenses of games that are not BC anymore, I want to play Daytona USA
>>734363367With how much they love subs and how retarded they are I wouldn't be surprised if they keep the MP paywall.
>>734363726...or take dumps from your discs, lol
>>734359461isn't all xbox emulation pretty terrible.Not like its a huge selling point>>734360774sounds like they are completely kneeling to Steam
>>734363106If it's a pc there won't be paid online anymore. You bettee be ready to pay up to Sony though
So what would be the point of buying Xbox versions of the game, when you could buy the same game on Steam and play it on Xbox, with more customization options, FREE ONLINE, KB+M support and ability to actually play it on PC, handheld PCs and Linux?It just makes no sense, unless they're doing Windows based Steam Machine and want to focus on hardware sales, instead of software. Which would make it guaranteed to be more expensive than PS6.
Who the fuck wants a new Xbox right now?
>>734363951They won't subside costs so take a wild guess.
>"OK guys we're going to make an update for the series S and X that gives you the option to run full Windows these boxes">the value of S and X goes up because it's a now a half decent pc>lock the bootloader to windows>???>profitWow its that easy to save the series x/s with software like the FSE and Windows that already exists.Microsoft is retarded if they don't do something like this to prepare current xbox owners for the next gen console
>>734357198It's the most sensible move they can make in their current situation, they know they can't compete with Sony in the traditional console games space so they offer access to a completely different set of games that Sony's next console (presumably) won't. Most of the FOTM streamer bait games that blow up tend to be PC-only indie titles as well.I don't doubt that Microsoft has the capacity to completely fuck it up somehow, but I think it is genuinely the best way forward for them at the moment.
>>734364017If it's cheaper than the Steam Box then everyone will.
>>734357198>"you can do anything!">*releases*>"you can't do anything"ok
>>734364083I just can't imagine Microsoft dropping Xbox Live subscriptions to play online, or whatever it's called these days.
>>734364184>you can't do anything
>>734364239If it's a somewhat open PC they'll have to.
>>734363951They don't care where you buy their games and presumably there won't be paid online anymore
>>734362773
if they move to free online it might force sony to do the same
>>734364378So they'll have to make sure they earn money on every hardware unit sold
>>734364391And with that Nintendo to.The great evil of consoles could get removed.
>>734358573> Consoles already became glorified PC because they - lost their only real advantage when they abandoned their only real advantage (sprite-based rendering allowing to "cheat" much better graphics for the same amount of VRAM) and moved into 3D. Which is the PS1/Saturn/N64 era.
I don't trust Microsoft one bit, I'm sure they're gonna fuck it up in some way or another, too many unanswered questions.Will it play steam games?Will they finally improve Xinput?Will I have to pay for Game Pass to play online? ($15/30 a month for thr "good" plans btw)Will they make an effort to make actual good games or will they continue to put out the same live service corpo friendly slop?Will it run an actual desktop Windows OS or will it be a cut down version?And this is more of a personal thing, but I hope it supports physical games. I hate digital, I hate not being able to share my games and not being able to resell them.
>>734364447NoThey will get 70% cut on steam, they will be fine. As long you are in their ecosystem it will be fine for them.
>>734363951Optimization
>>734364615>Will it run an actual desktop Windows OS or will it be a cut down version?with Win11 being copiloted a cut down version might be an improvement desu
>>734364615Sorry, but digital game is the future of gaming and the present of PC gaming
>>734364615>will it play steam gamesthis would be the whole point, though it would be pretty funny if they strike an EGS deal instead
>>734364615It's planned to be a stripped down W11 but i'm sure they will to preserve some spyware here and there
>>734364129It will 100% be cheaper than the Gabe Cube, Steam is worried about subsidising the hardware because it's literally just a PC with no restrictions at all but Microsoft is (probably) treating the HeliXbox like a traditional console, locking it down and subsidising the unit cost to some extent.>>734364447Complete and utter wild speculation but they could be working out some kind of revenue-sharing deal with Steam for games bought through their storefront on an Xbox, assuming they're relying on Steam for this. Valve seems to want to break into the living room market, piggybacking on an existing console brand is a good way to do it and Steam is so ludicrously profitable that making a bit less money on Steam purchases from a whole bunch of customers who weren't buying on Steam beforehand anyway isn't a big deal.
>>734364850try to*
>>734364829>EGSboxwould be hilarious desu
>>734363849>isn't all xbox emulation pretty terrible.No, in fact, it's one of the best ways to play games like the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII and Conker Live and Realoaded from Xbox OG, as they not only increased the resolution and frame rate, but also improved the game textureshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Fyy9jhBxshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzeBm0XBcOkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCkiftckKrE
>>734364615>hope it supports physical gamesAt best, there might be an overpriced external disc drive add-on which will add bulk and cable clutter to your setup. I wouldn't expect the base model to have one built in.
>>734364905GabeN hates Microslopthe last thing I expect from him is to partner with Xbox
>>734357198the most important question: is it going to run on windows 11?
>>734365068Time to leave the past behind old man...
>>734365068He also loves yachts and seems to genuinely want to crack into the living room space, I wouldn't put it past him making a deal with the devil if the terms are good.
>>734365157>pastanon he was scared shitless by Win8 and its MS StoreSteam Machines 1.0 and debian-based SteamOS were a product of that
>>734362736THISclearly the sony higher ups got tired of jim ryan pulling an xbox on playstation
>>734365157Gabe/Steam don't need to partner with anyone. Remember when they all ran off and made their own stores yet came crawling back?
>>734365120Likely Windows 12 with an new xbox console friendly UI.Personally I can't wait, I will install so much mods and emulators lmao
no more need for shitty pcsounds good desu
>>734365032Gears trilogy on a Series console is insanely good
>>734364710I meant cut down as in less features, not being able to use regular PC software.This thing will for sure have a lot of copilot shit built in tho.>>734364764It is, but I don't see how that benefits me as a consumer. It only helps publishers to make more money.>>734365053If it's like the PS5 which costs like 60 to 100 bucks then that's ok with me desu. Either way, I doubt many people would buy it knowing how much they would push for digital content and pc store fronts.>>734364829The EGS is weirdly enough available on the Microsoft Store, so that wouldn't surprise me.If it dosent support steam, it's DOA.>>734364850Well yeah it's Microsoft it's gotta have some sort of tracking aka spyware. Was counting on that from the start
Cool, but PCs have PC problems. Like the first Window update the Xbox Ally got caused games to not boot lel.
>>734357198100% only online and it will serve as part of the cloud computation resource for microsoft when you are not actively using it to unload energy cost to paypigs.
>>734357198>midrange prebuilt PC with Xbox logo slapped onWhat's the point? Who is this for? Casual gamers will be priced out and hardcore gamers already have superior PCs.
I just ranted to my friend like 2 weeks ago about this because the "hybrid" console has been a rumor for like 3 years now and I'm going to point out the exact problem I was ranting to my friend about how they are currently pissing and fucking shitting all over Windows and destroying every crucial component on a weekly basis and you expect this walled-garden consolized version of Windows to not be just as fucking dog shit?If you didn't migrate to PC gaming full time already instead of being excited for this absolute dogshit you're never going to make it. Consoles are fucking dead. Unironically come home white man.
>>734357417with a disc tray able to play xbox gamesmaybe, probably
>>734365603It's a box for the living room.
>>734365525This manI play console to escape pc problems I don't have time for anymore I can load into helldivers 2 and have a whole game while my pc cuckbros are troubleshooting le shader problems or muh windows 12 updateThis is cancerous news
Yup, PC games like....uh....
>>734365525it'll get even worse as microsoft gets taken over by more and more indians
>>734359184It's not costing a penny less than $1000
So it's a PC with always online DRM and paid online? Why not just get a non-Xbox branded PC?
>>734364239>>734364391It's all part of the plan.
>>734365837It will be a PC with benefits of a console without the hassle of a PC.It will likely have console mode and pc mode for users. Remember, they want also the normalfags audience aka pc illiterate users.
So this rumor turned out to be true. Some of the other rumors were that Microsoft was going to drop paying for online and that this would be able to play OG Xbox and Xbox 360 games too.
>>734357198>Xbox Helix. New Console Will Play Both Xbox and PC gamesThis might be why Sony is stopping selling its games on PC because of these pajeet slop fags
>>734366018they will do something stupid like that you actually just rent the console and you have to pay for something like a gamepass plan
>>734357417I’m not going to lie, if it’s essentially a decent pc with the Xbox UI I’d be interested, the single fact that I wouldn’t be installing 8 different launcher is a plus for me
>microslop can't get people to use Copilot>they rename every software they own to Copilot>they now can brag to their shareholders that Copilot use has skyrocketed>microslop can't get people to buy xbox>they rename PC gaming as xbox gaming>they now can brag to their sharehodlers that 70% of gamers play on xbox4D chess
>>734364239It would probably look bad to have a system where you can play the same game with and without an online paywall due to the console/PC thing. They'll probably just make online free but have incentives in everything for having a Gamepass subscription rolling.
>>734357417Why would anyone buy a branded mid tier pc?
>>734366543When they renamed Xbox Live to Game Pass they magically found 50 million new users too, conveniently.
>>734363467Based, fuck xcucks.
>>734366018>Microslop>Removing their most successful and profitable subscription serviceNot happening, about as absurd as Snoys "POWAH OF THE SSD"
>>734363467Helldivers 2 and Marathon are on Xbox Series, with Sony's full consent and support.
>expensive branded pc that can run xbox games via official emu
Daily reminder that PC won and that all the dudebro faggots bitching about "nerds" are either coping on their dead brick or begrudgingly playing on PC
Can I turn it into an Xbox Helix Pro by connecting an external GPU?
>all xbox games are already on PCwhy would you buy a Xbox branded PC to play Xbox games?
>>734366198It's thought be a combination of this and other console-esque gaming PCs such as the upcoming Steam Machines. They all challenge PS in roughly the same way >but they will all be super expensive, outside of console territory!They also might all be delayed until component prices drop back down and they can indeed be priced competitively with consoles.
>>734357198Microsoft to compete with Apple's new Neo decided to copy what they did to conserve ever scarcer processors:Project Helix processing is ten Zunes stuck together.
>>734368505The copium is they mean Xbox Hueg and 360 games. And discs in general.
If this was the xbox of like 15 years ago, it would be mindblowing.Who the hell is left to care?
>>734357198what retarded, nonsensical, but somehow unremarkable and confusing name will they give it?xbox next x? for extra confusion when you talk about the next console.
>>734368951the disks where you have to download 80% of the game? those disks?
>>7343572755 digits?
>>734369128Those discs I already paid for and don't need to buy a seperate digital license for, yeah.
>>734358071Xbox doesn't make good games, so why care
>Xbox's last hail mary is just a way to give Steam and Epic more money
>>734369693>and Epic
>>734369693They'll force bundle the Kinect with it, allowing them to spy on you 24/7 for that sweet data money, while also honoring Mattrick's legacy.
>>734357198Not buying it unless it has ms paint
>>734367967the amount of arm twisting and potential death threats was the only reason for that. >and the concord tax
>>734357417A PC with a company with a company behind that is big enough to demand studios to make their games run on specific minimum requirements (the hardware of the Xbox) and interact with whatever gimmicks and telemetry Microsaar decides to add to this thing. Kinda like Valve with its Steam Deck and Steam Machines but way bigger since MS owns some of the big studios and it will be easier to make them comply with their demands.
>>734357276FUCK XBOXMicrosoft can suck my Microcock
>>734366000Can normal pcs play all your xbox games?Im an xbox player who also would like to dip my toe into pc gaming, but i know nothing about pcs. This new xbox allows me to enjoy the best of both worlds.I will be buying it
>>734369693imagining xbox in the cuck chair while watching gabe with his girl saying "are you sure"
>>734357198Watch it be a cloud console
So it's a steam machine but with an OS made by indians.
Looks like the Xbox shills are here
>>734357198>built in AIMiss me with that gay shit
>>734370450>Can normal pcs play all your xbox games?Yes. They are releasing all their games on pc.
im glad microslop has realized that xbox and pc should become one
>forced copilotLol xbox is cooked
>>734357198>x86>runs windows kernel on both sides>commodity gpuSo they are making a PC
>>734365032It's pretty good stuff.I would have bought a series X if not for the phoning home bullshit for physical discs, the only reason to get a console at this point is so you can completely physically own your games, I hate that they're ever constantly moving away from that.
>>734357198The only reason to want that is to play playstation games
>Indian boss>makes the project look like a cryptoscamkek
>>734357198Thry realized that current gen had been nothing but failed games and remakes. Good for them to move quickly.
>>734371552>>commodity gpuAs opposed to Sony, who has been leaked to be skipping the full architecture AGAIN? Fuck gay proprietary hardware bullshit
>>734358071last 2 gens shit hasn't really changed and now since DLSS came out devs are even fucking lazier and every game is an unoptimized piece of shit. 4k was on the bone x. game still struggle to get 4k 60 a decade later
>Xbox is being treated like the Surface Line hardware now and will be niche>$1500+>handheld will be $1000+>no first-party exclusives>barely any third-party games>relying on AI for optimization>no PlayStation games>Valve won't agree to Xbox Mode integration>confusing OEM strategy>no games, literally>AI and WindowsWhy would anyone support this over a Switch 2, PS6 Orion/Canis, and or a Steam Machine/Steam Deck 2 which will all cost significantly less, have games, will have first-party games built and optimized for the hardware and controllers, and will have an identity and legacy? This feels very worthless in comparison to Nintendo, Sony, and Valve forcing devs to optimize their games again. Nintendo, Sony, and Valve are offering me a return to the 3rd-6th generation (1980s-early 2000s), Microsoft wants to keep me in the hell of the 7th-9th generation. Microsoft simply has to go.
>>734357198>that logoerm...
>>734357198Huh, does this mean Sony will be forced to release the PS6 next year? and here I was to buy a PS5. What the fuck do I do now
>>734357276It’s an excuse more than the only reason.PlayStation has zero reason to exist without exclusives even moreso than Xbox (thanks to things like gamepass, backwards compatibility and PC being integrated into the ecosystem for so long now). This didn’t translate to a bad generation of sales necessarily for PS5 but the impression has been that if their games are coming to PC, you may as well just switch to PC long term.
>>734357276Nope, it has more to do with Nintendo and Valve killing them in Japan. Sony's going full 5th/6th generation again and finally getting out of that post-6th gen mindset Microsoft caused. Nintendo, Sony, and Valve all just dogpiling Microsoft and their "Xbox" is just a bonus.
>>734373078Bullshit it has everything to do with the next Xbox playing PC games. You know how shit it must feel being an Xbox owner knowing that the PS5 Pro is the best way to play Xbox games (Halo CE & Fable especially) When the Helix comes out it’ll be more powerful than the Pro and Sony absolutely doesn’t want to take that cucked status spot you fucking retard. >pic related, literally you rn
>>734357276> a single bloomberg jew article
>>734373704Nope, it's because Valve stole Sony's Japanese market from them devaluing the PlayStation brand with Steam and Steam hardware. Valve is also getting back into first-party game development full-time to build games for the Steam hardware, Nintendo style. Sony's is getting squeezed out by Nintendo and Valve so now they're in defense mode and returning to their old better mindset before Microsoft and Xbox. Nintendo, Sony, and Valve killing Microsoft's Xbox ventures is a bonus. This Xbox with or without Steam and PlayStation games was already dead on arrival due to price and how it was set-up which makes it feel like Windows 8 all over again. Windows 8 is why Valve created SteamOS and went about making their own gaming hardware in the first place. Helix was always a dead sell. An Xbox/Windows fusion could have worked years ago, but it's a little too late now. Also, current Windows and AI are shit.>PowerNo one cares about that anymore, it's about optimization, AI is being used for upscaling low resolution games with high-end textures. Nintendo, Sony, and Valve are mandating a handheld first-mentality, Microsoft wants unoptimized games that AI can fix in the Xbox Mode, fuck that and fuck them and their raw performance. I don't know why Microsoft is so stuck in the 7th gen mindset and refuse to go back.
>>734357198this is direct competition to the Gabecube then
>>734375898Can't wait for Valve to crush them.
>>734357198slopbox
>>734375898The Gabecube has been smothered in the crib by hardware costs, even before the RAM shortage fuckery exploded Valve were being very squirrely about mentioning pricing and it was likely going to be potentially multiple hundreds of dollars above the kind of price point that most people would be willing to pay for a "console-like" machine. Now that the AI circlejerk has sent hardware prices skyrocketing there's almost certainly no way Valve would be able to charge anything close to a palatable price without subsidising each unit and that's something they're not going to do.Meanwhile Microsoft is a major player in the AI circlejerk so are much more able to get their hands on hardware at better rates, especially since they're probably planning a much higher production volume for their new console than Valve is. They're also much more likely to be willing to subsidise the cost of whatever machine they put out, assuming they're still going to be broadly following the traditional console model.(None of this means that the next Xbox will actually be any good.)
>>734357198It will have tons of exclusives, they will sell a console way more powerful than the competition at a similar cost because Microsoft has all the money in the world and they can afford it, and it will all be glorious like with the first 2 Xbox.
>>734376678Valve said they won't subsidize it as a console, they'll subsidize it as a PC. It's going to be $750 with the controller to make room for a $600 Steam Deck 2. This Xbox Helix shit, in comparison, will cost $1500+ for the home console and $1000+ for the handheld. This Surface-style piece of shit is dead on arrival. Stop shilling you dumb rat. Microsoft isn't planning to subsidize this abomination.
I hope this means MS is going to release an XBONE translation layer for Windows 11.
They got rid of the liar cuck spencer so I'm willing to LISTEN, obviously not trusting them with my money for a while.
>>734376798Xbox Series X|S was the last Xbox console, this is Windows wearing a mask with no exclusives, at all. It's also going to cost close to $2000 while the handheld will cost over $1000.
>>734357417Wasn't there some sort of tax difference between PC and console hardware?
>>734376968They didn't even try holy shit, as soon as they fucked up they never reverted the bad decisions
>>734376941They can't, they'll get sued out the ass by third party devs, this will be an exclusive feature.
>>734376964I mean, the new CEO got caught lying in hour 1 of her job, if that helps you.
>>734377040>sued out the assKek no way
>>734357417Consoles have been PCs for multiple generations now, Xbox just stopped acting like there's a difference
>>734357198>can play all xbox games Presumably including all the back compatibility stuff too>all PC games Even WoW too right?Playstation is fucking dead holy shit
>>734377403PS6 Orion will be $750, Xbox Helix home will be $1500+, PS6 Canis will be $600, Xbox Helix handheld will be $1000+, yeah...PlayStation sure is dead alright. Even worse, PlayStation will have exclusives built for it while Helix won't. Man, Sony truly lost.
>>734377628They are using the same hardware from AMD so no neither will be more expensive than the other. The only difference will be the NPU which powers the AI stuff like upscaling and the emulation. The Xbox supporting PC games means by default it'll have like a billion exclusives that will never be on PS6, presumably also PS1, 2, and 3 via emulation. And then PC exclusives in general like WoW which Microsoft already own anyway so it makes sense to push on their console users. Sony, assuming the news is true (literally a rumour so far) only make a game once every 5 years at this point anyway. We've gone an entire fucking generation without a naughty dog game think about that for a minute.
>>734366636Ask the retards who want to buy a Steam Machine
>>734376941Best you're getting is more Xbox/Game Pass apps (on top of the current ones) that come preinstalled with W11 and can't be removed without using third party tools or messing with Powershell and the registry.
>>734357198>Play Xbox and PC games**that have been purchased from the Microsoft storefront, sorry Steamies!
>>734378049It just keeps getting worse
>>734377835Microsoft isn't subsidizing this, it's part of the PC market, not the console market and it will have a dedicated NPU for AI slop bringing up the price further. This Surface-like piece of shit is dead on arrival, Xbot. There is no reason to get this over a Switch 2, Steam Machine/Steam Deck 2, or PS6 Orion/Canis. You have to be some kind of idiot to get this. I really don't understand why Xbots even still exist. Xbox has no identity or legacy like Atari and Sega had before it. Xbox is the most soulless piece of shit to exist, and its shills are all paid.
>>734357276You just know the shareholders aren't going to be happy about that, literally telling them that they're going to pull out of the second largest individual gaming market just because of Sony's hubris. It's too late for that, they already opened the genie's bottle. It ain't ever going back in it.
>>734361053That list was for singleplayer games. Helldivers was also on PC day one.
>>734357417Not a bad thing. My guess is you'll have Xbox games that specifically optimize for the hardware to make them more enticing to pick up rather than sticking to your Steam library. I wonder if it'll be like the Steam Deck where you can swap between Deck and Desktop modes.
>>734358071>Even that dogshit underpowered Gabecube made more waves here.The gabecude won't require its own subscription to be usable
>steam machine
>>734378115AMD makes the NPU because it's integrated into their next gen ryzen chips so it's all inclusive. It'll just be tweaked to MS specifications. No additional price. Both PS6 and xbox whatever its called will be using the same class of hardware from AMD. Price will be the same. I doubt any of these will be particularly cheap anyway because of ram shortages through till 2032 at minimum.
>>734357417kek
>>734357417>So it's a PCWith:-Unbreakable proprietary DRM -Secure Boot forced enabled by default-Kernel level anti-cheat running at all times-Can't install other OSes-Expensive
>>734378214That list is unfair because it makes it seem like all PC ports don't sell well on PC, but that's not the case because Helldivers sold much more than PS5But now we know that the problem isn't sales, it's because the new Xbox will run PC games.
>>734357198$10 says they'll just call it the "Xbox" to further confuse everyone
>>734377143>Xbox just stopped acting like there's a differenceUnless Microsoft drops out of PC manufacturing entirely theres obviously a catch here. More than just being withholden to the Xbox ecosystem, they can't sell what is effectively a fully functional work station at console prices.
>>734358626enjoy your disc key instead
>>734357198Aren't the xbox version just worse pc ports?
>>734358071>Even that dogshit underpowered Gabecube made more waves here.Steam:>here's our console specifically designed to play games, all the games you already own and can get more of for like $5 every banking holiday and it comes with no ads or need for subscrriptionsMicrosoft:>Here's your shitty alienware PC called the "Xbox Infitium SeXcrription" with ads for Xbox Live platinum super star pass on your lock screen, desktop, settings menu, and even while in game. Also all the code is made by AI and it runs like shit.
>>734365872WoW, LoL, DOTA and CS lmao. Third world gaming.
Theyre going to charge for online arent they?
>>734380009If Steam is on the Nextbox, they really can't or else everyone would buy their games on Steam instead to skip the paid online.There is a non 0% possibility that the free online gets Sony and Nintendo to do free online too and Microsoft undoes the industry fucking they inflicted upon us years ago.
>>734380009If they do free online that might give them an edge over Sony but I doubt Jewsoft would be that charitable
>>734357417Thats been the goal of Microsoft from day 1. To sell their own PC hardware and skip the middle man.
>>734380009Multiplayer might be free but they will add an extra tax on everything digital to compensate. Say currently a DLC is $10 now it would be $12,50 or $13,99
>>734357198>Six hours later>The thread about this still hasn't autosagedHoly fuck it's so over. No one gives a fuck.
>>734380754Steam chart threads are the most active today.
>>734380009They already dont charge for online for xbox games on pc and their main competition will be steam machine which will offer free online. Gamepass will be pushed as the replacement for xbox live.
>>734357417>mass produced prebuilt in the era of no RAM under Sam AltmanImagine the profit margins
>>734378346Sony isn't using an NPU, they removed that part, they're using Neural Arrays in the GPU instead, Valve, when they use Medusa Point, will have the NPU removed so they won't lose efficiency as the RDNA 4m GPU is enough. All leaks are saying that the next Xbox is $1500+, get over it, Xbot
>>734358573>glorifiedyou mean neutered
