Why is it that the average person is so fucking bad in tactic games? I looked someone playing it and they kept losing units every other chapter like wtf just calculate the damage you will be receiving
>>734409994Imagine you wake up to the sound of her giggling, you open your eyes and see that you're in a dimly lit chamber. As you try to move, you realize that your arms and legs are fastened to a crossbeam, spread apart. You also notice now that you are completely naked. She comes from around the corner, still giggling, before delivering swift, brutal kicks to your exposed, dangling testicles. What do you do?
>>734409994I mean, I suck mostly because I often don't check every variable. So sometimes I just don't notice the enemy is carrying around a killer sword. At least playing Mystery I've gotten much better judging attack strength.
>>734409994>do mathyou're asking a lot of the average gamer
Do math?More like do Marth amirite.
>>734410105i dont imagine it because that sounds like the first step of someone trying to groom me
>>734409994You probably suck at them too
>>734409994This girl can develop a crush on her cousin btw
Marriage with Marianne!
So are Fire Emblem threads still getting nuked?
>>734413595This is clearly not a Fire Emblem thread
Someone here the other day was implying Lilina is a bad unit, and I'm a little confused how they could possibly come to such a conclusion.
>>734414791It's probably because they played the game normally. She's hard to get off the ground and rarely is able to double.
>>734414919>mage>hard to get off the groundlol, easiest gba class to 1 20 against max level enemies
>>734414791That's so retarded. If they're not stupid they should realize mages is one of the easiest way to kill bossesI had Lugh erasing bosses since his debut chapter
>>734414791I think she’s a bad unit, but she’s fun. But to be fair I think most of the mages in FE6 are bad including Lugh.
>>734414791When you get her Lugh is already almost ready to promote and you assuming you're using Clarine you won't have a guiding ring for Lilina until the ch 16 secret shop. She's a scrimblo.
>>734415115Youre going to be chewing her food for her for the first half of that. She can't even survive a round of combat against the average enemy at first.
>>734416239Game gives you a bunch of units who can almost one round enemies, feeding kills is not an issue, never has been, even without sacrificing turns, specially if you are an adult playing a children's game
>>734415839That's assuming that you choose to use Lugh. I wouldn't call either of them a bad unit. Lugh and Lilina are like a pair of Christmas cavs. Lugh is the faster but slightly weaker one, while Lilina is the stronger but slightly slower one. They both do excellent work when used to their full potential. Lilina is tied with Roy for most available supports in the game.
>>734416475Lugh also joins 5 chapters earlier so I don't know why you'd ever ignore him and then train the less useful lvl 1 mage way later.
>>734414791Probably because she is
>>734409994Have you seen /v/ talking about this game? Some of them literally think Rutger is good.
>Myrmidons are bad units in almost every single game>they are insanely bad in gba emblem>oh but the exception is fe6 because you fight a lot of axe unitsLol
>>734409994Normal people use all their brainpower at work so they turn into drooling retards when they're off the clock. If a normal person took fire emblem seriously he would immediately be way better than you
Why would I ever use Rutger when I have these GODs?
>>734417512You mean Dieck
>>734417512>>734417607Use all of them! Please ignore the lack of hero crests, and promotion items in general.
>>734417512He’s a 14strlet on promotion I know you’re memeing but rutger OR fir aren’t worth using
>>734417607I usually use both since all of the other hero crest candidates are bad and you get 2.
>>734410105Fpwp
>>73441772614 strength wow that is bad. Hey guys isn't Lance like totally awesome?
>>734417719You have Gonzales and Dieck. Why would you spend a valuable hero crest on a meme foot-locked sword cuck like rutger?Like lets not pretend Gonzales has hit issues because of a screenshot of a maxed on gonzales having less hit than a maxed out rutger using durandal on an endgame dragon. Thats extremely cherrypicked
>>734413595They should, nobody deserves anything
Can we please argue about troubadour elise vs Priestess Sakura? I feel like people dont argue about revelations enough
>>734417968Rev blows so nobody cares. Use whoever you find hottest.
>>734418009Rev is harder than conquest
>>734417968There's nothing to argue about when you have both older brothers and Camilla and Corrin on the same army. The other units could all be SD H5 Bantu tier and you'd still sleepwalk through lunatic.
>>734417860I've had good success with all the hero crest characters except for Wade. He's just a special kind of bad.
>>734418009The only reason you say this is because rev lets you grind but if you actively avoid grinding the difficulty of fates games based on map design is rev > conquest > birthright
>>734418049It's not. It turns into a total joke after you've collected a few of the royals.
>>734418049>>734418102Wow I think maybe jannies are right, these threads need to die for a little while so that such low quality bait isn't necessary to keep things bumped.
>>734417830Will never get a single point in str until promotion, just like thany
>>734418191>higher stat enemies>more tedious map designYou have no argument you’re just a goddamned shitter
>>734417968Sakura is actually good since you can feed her the earlygame exp
>>734418251I love that you described it as tedious completely unprompted
>>734409994Normalfags' brains shut down when they see too many numbers on screen. Seriously, go look up the interviews for Awakening. Nami Komuro, who never played FE before and was being used as a guinea pig by IS to cater more to casuals, got overwhelmed by how much information was on screen which is why that simplified UI option exists for Awakening.
>>734414791She's really good and can easily be included in your team even if you use Lugh, retards just parrot bad takes when it comes to her.>Muh bad sklShe uses a weapon type more accurate than swords, skl is a nonissue. That's before factoring in her literal instant C support with Roy buffing her accuracy as well as her combat stats in general.>Muh bad spdHer promo gives her a massive amount of spd, to the point where she'll never be outright slow and she might be straight up fast. >Muh overkill magIt's not overkill when it allows oneshots and dealing over 80% of hp damage against enemies that no unit ORs such as Heroes and Swordmasters.>She's hard to trainNo, her being a mage makes it piss easy to use even a few chapters after you get her, and she's even easier to use if you deploy her immediately. Exp is also generous af on low levels, giving her quick stats>She can't take more than one hitIndeed she's frail, but again, she's a mage. She gets to pick her battles. Plus, Angelic Robes can be bought way earlier than every other statbooster, so she also benefits from that.
>>734418102Alright dani doyle nice try, now go back to making 7-hour videos on how to theorycraft the best revelation Kana.
My level 20/5 Franz has less strength than Base Seth
>>734418461Nobody is complaining about her 20/10 stats or whatever. She's just a scrimblo growth unit who isn't worth using if your goal is to beat the game rather than look at a pretty green number next to "mag".
>>734418503Franz is a noob trap literally just use Seth and sell the knights crest to buy more javelins for Seth.
Ririna
>>734418056I've tried using Wade, and while I found him uses early on through him having axe rank and hp, I've never been able to use him long term either. The issue is that he's utterly unimpressive even in the stats where you'd expect him to excel such as strenght.
>>734418616nta but I also like seeing some Ss at the end and she is great for that
>>734418461But what if I need to seize the throne as fast as possible and I need to promote saul asap so I can minimize turncount with warp?
>>734418616>No argumentThat's what I'd expect from someone who metafags more than they play the game. Lilina is good, and is at bare minimum a solid replacement for a bad Lugh.
>>734418619>knights crestGreat knight kyle makes a decent midgame filler unit. Seth can't be everywhere at once.
>warpnigger
Okay, but consider this: Hugh.
>>734409994>Why is it that the average person is so fucking bad in tactic games?The unfortunate thing I've come to realize is that a lot of people just play strategy and tactics game for a power fantasy. They want to feel like they're some 4D chess super genius without actually being one. So they either play on easy difficulties, use cheats, or in older Fire Emblem games where they can't do that, they eat avoidable losses when some simple foresight would prevent them.
>>734417968>throw one of your dread fighter seals on sakura to train her dagger rank and put her in a class she can front line and enemy phase the early game dark mages and sorcerers>use elise enough to get their A support and friendship seal sakura to maid >by that point she's a better felicia and can frontline heal, mage tank or contribute damage with a flame shuriken>then drop elise because she's way underleveled when she joins and you probably don't have her high enough unless you do something weird like make her a wyvern asaprev's deployment slots are so competitive dropping her just makes sense unless you're doing grind maps or really want to use ophelia which is a whole other can of worms because odin is garbage in rev.
>>734418648In the middle game axe users are pretty bad, only picking up again once the game starts spamming wyvern riders and pegasus knights but that is like at the very end and only one route so
>>734418809You don't need a replacement for a bad Lugh. There's no rule saying you have to train an anima mage for whatever reason. You can grind her if you find it fun, but you can also just not and be completely fine with the oncoming onslaught of busted characters coming your way.
>>734418839>Great knight kyleWatch out, fags will seethe about that because they've taken a mekkah video as gospel
>>734418619I wanted to have fun.At least he's fast.
>>734418859>Pay a shitton of gold to get an anima mage after Arcadia is already doneHe can be useful in emergencies and his stats are admittedly not bad if you pay full price, but still.
>>734419021>+2, -4, +1, +0, -1, +0, +2strength is below average which is unfortunate, but everything else is in line.
Just use Lugh???>decent mag>high speed>easily kills all early game bossesLike seriously why consider anything else?
>>734409994>Just calculate the damageSure, I'll just do some quick math.>Player Atk + Skills + WTA Bonus - Enemy Def - Terrain Data>Enemy Atk + Skills - Player Def - Terrain Data - WTD Penalty - WRank damage loss on WTDAt the end of the day, it's basic arithmetics but there are too many variables to consider. Chess doesn't need this shit, yet it's complex. Fire Emblem needs to go back to simpler math and take notes from Chess when it comes to complex strategies.
>>734419237tomes are expensive
>>734418926>There's no rule saying you have to train an anima mage for whatever reason. There's no rule saying that you have to use anyone other than Roy either, but guess what? It's stupid not to consider how useful a unit is. Anima mages are exceptionally good in FE6 since they get by far the best tomes such as Fire, Aircalibur and Forblaze, plus they are excellent deploys in several maps, notably Arcadia. >B-but what about the non anima Magic usersAll worse to promote than either Lugh or Lilina, since they either don't get staves on promo giving you an extra staff or they don't use Anima.
>>734419208>-4 strThat's beyond cursed, I'd look into someone like Kyle or even Forde at this point instead of insisting on using Franz.
>>734419345>Anima mages are exceptionally good in FE6 since they get by far the best tomes such as Fire, Aircalibur and Forblaze, plus they are excellent deploys in several maps, notably Arcadia.And you think a Lugh who hasn't gotten good magic levels can't still one round some no res shitters with aircalibur? Lilina doesn't fill any necessary niche. Far from it, as you're deliberately slowing down the game to grind levels on her so she doesn't die in one round to a random merc lmao.
>>734419483you don't need to slow down the game to level up someone, just let them kill whatever survives an enemy phase
>>734419553Lilina joins on ch 8 at level 1 and gets one rounded by half of the enemies on the map. You are babying and feeding the shit out of her whether you're concious of it or not.
>>734419483>a Lugh who hasn't gotten good magic levels can't still one round some no res shitters with aircaliburYes, a low mag Lugh will fail to do a lot of shit that you expect him to do. Worse yet, he can be spd cursed, which makes him bench material.>Lilina doesn't fill any niche because... I SAID SOI've already established her niches, you just pretend they don't exist because investing into any non metafag approved unit is haram no matter what.
>>734409994>why is someone bad at something they usually don't doautism
>>734419671Delusional post. Lugh is absolutely one-rounding wyverns with aircalibur even with horrific level up luck. And why is the assumption that Lugh is getting speed screwed when his base speed and growth is significantly higher than Lilina's? Just admit you think she's cute. The game is easy enough that that's as valid a reason to use someone as anything else, really.
Reminder that Lugh and Lilina have been used together several times in relays, and they've consistently both been valuable mainstays on the team. They're both easily on the upper echelon of units.
>>734419815>Higher growth means that a unit can't get screwedYou don't understand probability at all kek.
>>734419621If only there was a unit with a lot of defense who you could use as a wall who joined in that chapter. They really wouldn't need a lot of move as they'd just be sitting there in a choke point.
>>734419908Are you retarded, by any chance?
>>734419671>speed cursed>low magHe has 40% mag growth and 50% speed growth. If you’re gonna use bad luck as an argument for completely normal growths like this then do the same for lilina.40% mag is not 30% mag, he can be mag cursed but not never gets a single point in mag cursedAs for speed, failing a coinflip 20 times is an anomaly.
>>734419621game rarely sends more than 5 enemies at you at once for most of the game. you often get 8-10 units to use. 1 or 2 will always be ahead pulling enemies for enemy phase. you still got half a dozen units at your disposal to clear up anything that survives, lilina or any other tissue paper unit is never getting an enemy phase if you don't want them to, there are way better units for that and lugh is not one of those units in an ironman either
>>734416239She can get up to like level 13 on her join map just off the reinforcements, and there is a map full of passive weak enemies right after she joins if you want to catch her up that way
>>734420081>She can get up to like level 13 on her join map just off the reinforcements>Yeah bro I'm totally not grinding when I stall for 50 turns to get my cute waifu 12 entire level ups on her join chapter.
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>>734409994The average person, let alone gamer, doesn't think like that. They just don't.
>>734410105I hide your post and ignore that you exist. You should be forgotten to time.
>>734420182>NOOOO YOU CANT GRIND IN A STRATEGY GAME AIEEEE
>rutger is good>lilina is goodWhy is it that fe6 gets the most retarded arguments?The xander backpack argument was more intelligent than this shit
>>734419457I ended up using all 3 in the same way for the fun of it. Franz was the cursed one.You're supposed to pick one christmas Cav based on who starts better but i thought it'd be neat to do all 3 to see who gets cursed.
>>734420376You messed up your larp. The people who hate Rutger are overwhelmingly Lilinakeks
>>734420350You can, as long as you realize exp is a finite resource then you realize its not actually grinding retarded square enix faggot
>>734420350Stop being a retard
>>734420405Cavs are such shitter units
>>734419986>Do the same for LilinaShe only needs mag to do her niche and can be -3 while still performing well since she has the best mag growth in the game. Her consistency is her strong suit, which is further shown by her promo gains being absolutely nuts.>B-but why does Lugh have that problemBeing -2 or -3 makes a big difference for him, since he's actually playing with thresholds especially when it comes to spd.Think of it as two bellcurves: Lugh is a wide bellcurve, while Lilina is a narrow bellcurve. Generally, Lugh will be better than Lilina since his stats will reach his thresholds, but when they don't, Lilina wins out due to her consistency.
>>734420465>xp is finite tards when I put a unit on a fort and sit them there as enemies tink or miss them for several hundred turns never out damaging the forts healing
>Speed doesn't even matter broHoly fuck
>>734420465It is not like Rutger needs to be level 20/15 to deal with lvl 10 bandits, just get scrimblos to 15 and pick blessed onesAlso, arenas
>>734419983You assumed that Lugh can't be cursed because he apparently has higher growth in the same thread where someone posted a -4 str Franz. You should do some introspection, retard
I really dont understand why you guys think it's difficult to use ririna. In the relay she didnt even get to promote until like chapter 18 and she still carried the shit out of the run from chapter 9 onwards.
>>734420662No you illiterate tard, I pointed out that "but Lugh can get le speed screwed!" is a moronic argument when he has better bases and growths than the unit you're comparing him to. If he can get "speed screwed" Lilina can be a fucking turtle.
>>734420713@grok, post the turn counts of the fire emblem 6 relay, specifically chapter 8
>>734420646For Lilina, it doesn't matter much since one attack will do most of an enemy's health, which is especially useful for enemies that barely anyone doubles nevermind ORs such as Heroes. Also, she gets an insane amount of spd from promo making her never outright slow, but you fags always ignore that for some reason.
>>734420614Nobody who plays fire emblem normally does this. You are cherrypicking the sylveon faggot who nobody replies to
>>734420649My approach is to play the game normally but to pick one scrimblo per run to arena grind so that they can be on par with the rest of my party.
Just play fixed growths.Then Lugh is just better.And cuter.
>>734420649>rutger>arenasTHIS IS WHY RUTGERFAGS ARE BAD
>>734420713>Literally the worst anima tome equipped>Still decently accurate, doubling and dealing good damageBros, I thought Lilina was le bad?
>>734420813Certainly! In the first Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade ironman relay, Chapter 8, "The Reunion", was completed in 124 turns.
>>734420815She gets 3 speed instead of everyone else's 2, let's not get crazy here.
>>734420904>decently accurate
>>734420813
>>734420838that IS the sylveon faggot
>>734420956>ch1>91 turnsKEK
>>734420845I intentionally train up bad units because it is more fun that way.
>>734420956Common Sin W
>>734420932>It's "just" one more spdIt's a threshold stat, an extra point matters. Also, Lugh only gets +1 spd from him promo, so Lilina actually has the same spd as him after promo before considering growths>B-but Lugh has the higher growthBy 15%, in other words all that freaking out over Lilina being "way slower" than Lugh is over 2 points at 15/1, in exchange for Lilina being +4 in mag
>>734420956My most hated anon in this run was larumfagEvery single time he took the chapter that decides which one you get all his runs should have been veto’d. He sniped that chapter every single time.
>>734413127>another spring and winter banner passed>another nofuckingcontent for MarianneDamn.
I'll just stick to the true best mage in FE6.
>>734421124>rev
>>734421291The absolute peak was LarumPROPHETS killing roys support partners and then never actually getting the support with larum so LilinaHOMEWRECKERS sniped the A support
>>734420951Yes, considering she's using the literal worst tome she could here. Fire would give her a massive +15 accuracy buff at the cost of a single point of damage, and Forblaze would also bring her to like 75 accuracy in exchange for Lilina doing exceptional damage to Zephiel.
>>734421264>before considering growths>Bro don't consider the part she loses heavily in just trust me
>>734421407Yep, Rev.Enemies with massive stats vs your shitters.One mistake and you lose someone.Unless you just make the game boring and Seth/Titania the game.Which at that point you may as well watch a playthrough.I will always use shit units because shit units are the best.
>>734421438Read the rest of the post retard, Lugh has 2 point in spd over Lilina on average, in exchange for Lilina having +4 mag. In other words, my assessment of a spd cursed Lugh being explicitly worse than an average Lilina was vindicated, now kneel.
>lugh or lilinaNeither
>>734421384She is getting skilled with her hands
>>734421657Yeah but Lugh has a 10 level lead over Lilina.And is using Physic.
>>734421657>Lugh has 2 point in spd over Lilina on averageAt what level? A 15/1 Lugh is already 3 points faster than a 15/1 Lilina on average and that will only widen over time. He mogs the shit out of her in speed.
>>734417860>MUH 1 2 RANGE GLARK GLARK GLARKKill yourself m*kkahtard
>>734421731>And is using Physic.Not him but lol no shot. FE6 staff ranks are brutal.
>>734421662uh...https://serenesforest.net/binding-blade/characters/average-stats/normal-mode/clarine/
Is Tharja better than Lilina?
>>734414791>Underlevelled compared to Lugh>Lots of competition for her promotion item>Requires effort to train (honestly this is the biggest one)>Tendency to explode if touchedShe's not really bad, she's just inconvenient to get rolling, in a game where you really don't need to subject yourself to inconvenience
>>734421805>fujoposterWho even is the faggot youtuber you’re talking about. Jesus christ you’re a waste of oxygen i can’t believe you waste your goddamn time watching youtubers
>>734421809
>Clarine>good
>>734421742> A 15/1 Lugh is already 3 points faster than a 15/1 Lilina No, he's only at a minor +2, which again, fits into the idea that a spd cursed Lugh is worse than Lilina>that will only widen over timeOh wow, Lugh might have a more significant gap in spd at literal endgame.We just have to ignore how Lilina will also have like +10 mag over Lugh, that doesn't fit the narrative.
15/0 Lugh: 9 Mag, 13 Spd15/0 Lilina: 15 Mag, 8 Spd15/1 Lugh: 13 Mag, 14 Spd15/1 Lilina: 18 Mag, 11 Spd
Help me choose his class
>>734422153all of them mercenaries.
>>734422140>fits into the idea that a spd cursed Lugh is worse than LilinaThe fuck does that even mean? He's much less likely to get "spd cursed" because his growth is higher, dumbass. >Oh wow, Lugh might have a more significant gap in spd at literal endgame.Oh, now you want to talk about actual gameplay instead of spreadsheet autism? In that case Lugh is like 10 points of speed higher than Lilina because he's a way higher level, dumbass.
>>734421885>Lots of competition for her promotion itemNot really, getting the staff users to promote is low priority and the non Lugh/Lilina mages are all way worse than either of them.
>>734422153Make at least 1 mage and 1 merc. The other character can be whatever. Faye goes Cleric but if you LTCfag, Mage is actually not that much worse.
>>734422292My friend is saying that a speed screwed Lugh is worse than a Magic screwed Lilina.
ITT adults discuss how to beat a baby game where a pally can carry the lord like a damsel to each castle
>>734422340What about Archer Faye?
>>734421885>Lots of competition>Saul who can wait until the Ch14 Guiding Ring since that's when Warp shows up>Clarine who doesnt need to promote that badly>Ellen who's worse than both Saul and Clarine>Raigh who's so so>Sophia the scrimblo project
>>734422434Doesnt exist in the actual SoV but will be worse Cleric anyway.
>>734422520Worst unit in fe7
>>734422602That would be Wil (yes he's even worse than Rebecca)
I prefer my units to be balanced.
>>734422131She deals no damage when promoted, but she's THE dodgetank of all time.20/1 Clarine will have around 60 Avoid without counting support/terrain bonuses.
>>734422448>elen>worse than clarine
>>734422759What do you need clarine's dodge for?
>>734422812>one has horse>other one has no horse
>>734422883Have you considered that the horse stays on during sex?
>>734422846To not get crit?
>>734423147by who
>>734423223*whom
>>734423264*whomst
>>734422754Worse than Eligood
>>734423329Eliwood wood be Eligood if he started as a cavalier instead of promoting into one
>>734423309*whomst'dve
I don’t get the argument for Lugh being good because he does jack shit at base besides weak chip. And I’m not saying that’s absolutely worthless, he has value, but his bases are pretty bad and even stuff with 0 res like the chapter 7 Wyverns, he can’t even kill them in 3 hits and that’s if he gets two magic levels. I’m not saying Lilina is any better, but rather that magic is a good weapon type while the mages themselves are mostly pretty bad.
>>734422292>The fuck does that even mean?Exactly what it sounds like, dumbass. If Lugh doesn't get a spd lead over Lilina, he's worse mathematically, and that's before considering how he needs to reach doubling thresholds that Lilina doesn't reach for the difference to be significant and he needs to have enough mag to actually contribute from those thresholds more than Lilina does from dealing more damage/attack (sometimes outright oneshotting). Here's a quick probability lesson for your dumbass since you're obviously struggling with the subject>Possibility 1: Lugh is significantly faster than LilinaAka he reaches doubling thresholds that Lilina doesn't against important enemies like, say, cavs>Possibility 2: Lugh and Lilina have about the same spdEven if one sometimes doubles a unit the other doesn't, they're generally interchangeable in spd>Possibility 3: Lugh is significantly slower than LilinaLilina reaches doubling thresholds that Lugh doesn't as mentioned aboveIn those three possibilities, only case #1 would mean that Lugh is way faster than Lilina, and that's not all that common with an average 2 point lead at level 15/1. Around 40% of the time, he'll be within 1 point, 0 point or even -1 spd vs Lilina. Lugh's spd lead over Lilina is greatly exaggerated, especially since it fails to take into account Lilina's magic lead in exchange.>B-but Lugh joins earlier so he's better by defaultYes, never said that Lugh is the worse of the two. Lilina is just not nearly as bad as fags pretend she is, because her stats are good and the investment into training her is overstated.
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>>734421264Personally I don't like using either but how do you have >It's a threshold stat, an extra point matters. And>all that freaking out over Lilina being "way slower" than Lugh is over 2 points at 15/1,In the same post?
>>734423419He's mostly good because he's an anima mage that you get early, so he's better than a lot of your squad by default. For instance, he's one of the better units to fight the ch7 wyverns you've mentioned, since he can accurately deal non negligible damage to them, which a lot of your other units struggle with.
>>734422448Saul and Clarine being able to defend themselves (mostly for enemy targeting ai but occasionally helping set up kills for other projects) are both pretty good though, and there's a decent chance both of them are ready to eat that ring immediately. Meanwhile Lilina needs training to even use it, and offers just more combat and E Staves only. Like she's not the worst choice for it, that's not bad or anything, but there's not a solid argument for her getting it the same way Lugh is pretty much uncontested for the first. There are solid arguments for Saul or Clarine to get that second ring. Especially since, to use it in the first place, you need to inconvenience yourself by training her, when probably at least one of Saul or Clarine is right there.
>>734421565>Enemies with massive statsAnd almost no skills, which is way more important. Rev can't be harder than conquest which will poison strike lunge chain all but the most optimized juggernaut
>>734423437>If Lugh doesn't get a spd lead over Lilina, he's worse mathematicallyOkay, but this is unlikely. In fact it's just as likely that his massive speed lead over Lilina would be doubled with good luck. This entire line of argument is stupid and meaningless. Your "possibilities" aren't equally likely as much as you want to pretend they are. In actuality, Lilina will be upwards of 10 speed behind Lugh when she joins (him having already promoted near 15), and she'll never come even close to catching up in the entire game.
>>734422846It's just nice being able to put your healer upfront and being able to dodge Myrmiredons with 0 worries. Even a 20 HIT in 2RN games is like 8% irl, so she really should never get hit in the first place.I also say she deals 0 damage, but most enemies in FE6 have like 0-5 res even in midgame, so she mostly deals like 12x2 damage per round.
>>734422812She kinda is.There's really no reason to use her after you get Saul and Clarine.Saul is just better, Clarine has a horse. But, I suppose, if Ellen is even in the conversation, then you're training Ellen, which means almost assuredly you're giving her that second ring anyways.
>>734423804Never claimed it was harder?Apologies if it came across this way.
>>734423708I just don’t consider about 9-11 damage that significant against enemies with 34 HP. Most of your early squad is shitters so him being better than a lot of them isn’t saying much. 50% speed is also really iffy and it takes quite a bit of time for him to double stuff besides soldiers. And I’m not saying he’s worthless, he does have uses, it’s more that I’ve never really been impressed with his performance.
>>734423697It does matter, but 2 points isn't enough to pretend that Lugh is way faster and that Lilina is slow. Lugh is indeed faster, but not by that much. It'd be akin to saying that Lance is way faster than Alan and pretending that Alan is a slow piece of shit, when Alan keeps up well in practice even if he is indeed slower.
>>734422953
>>734423978 Confused you for these retards I guess, my bad anon>>734418049>>734418102
>>734424041If Lance still joined in chapter 1 and Alan joined in chapter 8 with the same stats, that'd be an accurate assessment.
>>734424041Fair enough.
>>734423807>but this is unlikelyIt's a 40% chance, retard. I explained how their bell curves and distribution work in great detail for your retarded ass, and you still don't get it.>Hurr Lugh spd growth % is bigger, so-You clearly don't have interest in understanding probability at all, so there's no point in elaborating further.
Lugh is better than Lilina because he joins several chapters earlier. He can do some chip damage early on and promote into a sage to help kill bosses, whereas Lilina requires you to slow down and train her, otherwise she won't be useful at all.HOWEVER I use Lilina because she's cute!!!
>>734409994the only hard tactics game i can play comfortably is yggdra union desu, ch10 of cq lunatic is still kicking my ass
>>734424285Lugh is basically Nino!And Nino! is cuter than Lilina
>>734423929YeahYou can say, that ideally your healers aren't facing enemy exposure.But a healer who CAN face enemy exposure is simply better than one that can't, because they can be used in situations or positioned in ways the other can't. Even if it's still better to not face exposure, being able to when it matters is an undeniable strength.
>>734424314Beat chapter 10 the way a true Nohrian would.
>>734424285Cute!!!!
>>734409994Are all the cavaliers in this game (besides Percival) supposed to fall off hard in the midgame, or did I just get super unlucky.
>ririna threadbased
>>734424498Alan is supposed to be endgame material and somewhat comparable to Percival if you have Lance supporting him, plus Lance is supposed to be good as well. You may have gotten cursed for these two.
>>734424498In abstract theoryCavaliers are supposed to have middling stats among combat units to compensate for their mobility.So, them struggling in the long run, and needing to rely on that mobility to take more opportunistic fights makes sense.In practice, it sounds like you just didn't feed them enough levels, or they got screwed, 'cuz that abstract theory has been a fukkin lie since day one.
Would you really say no to this face, asking for a guiding ring?
>>734424273I don't really care about the binomial distributions when Lilina is significantly lower level than Lugh. Your entire argument hinges on me assuming they're the same level for some retarded reason when that could never be the case.>A Lilina with good level up luck can be close to as fast as a Lugh with bad level up luck at the same levelOkay? What does that prove?
>>734424821I think it proves that Benny Fast.
>>734424498You can early promote one cav, who falls off, and raise the second one to lvl20 before promoting.Percival/Miledy/Shin will still be better, but Alan is comparable to Dieck. And who else are you going to train?
>>734424956Benny is the best tank in conquest. Not really comparable to a bad unit like lilina.
SHITrine is mogged by her mom, dad, and brother (not gay)
>>734425092>who else are you going to train?Lilina
>>734425124Promoted Clarine can clear entire hordes of Wyvern Riders.Pent is known as an Ironman ender because he usually jobs to sand bandits.
>>734424806She looks like she fucks swordtist men
>>734424081
I like how the entire argument against Lilina hinges on pretending that her getting exp is an unreasonable expectation when part of ch8 and the entirety of 8x are right there for effortless exp.
>>734425350The entire argument hinges on her being a women and therefore inferior compared to Lugh
>>734425350Effortless exp that could be going to good units*
>>734425350I gave the exp to Noah instead.
>>734425401>that could be going to good unitsSuch as Lilina
>>734424806I like my horse riding Ojou more smug and bitchy.
Roy is so lucky.
>enter fe thread after proxy site starts shitting itself>go from raging schizoposting and gamewarring to low tier waifufaggingbeats the former, i guess
>>734425492I'm cucking Roy
>>734425621>proxy site?
>>734425681>t. Gonzales
Peak male performance.
>>734425492So does Res make a woman's ass fat?Or do women with fat asses just have high Res?
>>734425729Trec ain't looking too bad
>>734425492
>>734425729He's okay.
>>734425880>>734425795Of course I would mess up the reply.
>>734425762>So does Res make a woman's ass fat?So it seems, so it seems.
bruh
>>734425716there's a proxy site run by a pedophile furry that basically allowed free ban evasions because mods couldn't do anything about it. this sounds like insane schizoposting in itself but it's actually real. it's gotten so bad that he was even pushing kiwifarm's and the sharty's shit in a little, except they didn't sustain any real damage because admin isn't as inept as 4chan'stl;dr there's a kf thread on him under david frederick hoffman if you want to look deeper into it
>>734425350>ch8 and the entirety of 8x are right there for effortless exp.And why is she entitled to it?That exp could be used for, among other things>Boosting Clarine or Saul after promotion. Or Ellen, I guess. Clarine in particular would benefit from training weapon ranks>Training Allen or Lance more. Or Treck or Noah. Or all four.>Training Thani more, especially if you want to use Sue but avoid Sacae>Smoke a massive bowl and train Wendy>train Dieck or OJ>Train Sue, if for some godforsaken reason you want to go to Sacae>If time is really no object, train Balls or Barth. >Bear witness to Chad's ascensionEach of these is some combination of better, and more fun than training Lilina.
>>734424285I feel like you have to slow down for Lugh too if you want to actually use him besides chipping. He’s still better because he does have that period of time where he can chip, but last time I used him, he was only level 5 by chapter 7.
>>734425762Then clearly Skill makes a woman's chest bigger, 'cuz Lilina has niether.
>>734426362There may be some truth to this
>>734423746Staffers gaining combat is a theoretically useful bonus but in practice its generally not worth giving them early dibs on the promo item.
>>734425880I’m not a mentally ill straight person so I don’t use cavs in fe6
>is that a team with only one cav?????
>>734425092That's what I did but I guess I gambled on the wrong ones, now Allen is kneecapped with early promoted stats and even after 20 levels Lance is still made of paper. Oh well, atleast I have Percival and Milady (and Lugh and Lilina) as my main carries.
>>734426236>why is she entitled to it?She isn't just like how no unit is entitled to exp, but she benefits the most from it due to enemies giving her more exp than anyone else and due to paying off easily from investment. She's also a free unit in ch8, so might as well have her contribute and get some exp naturally while you're looting the chests.In other words, use her and she won't dissapoint.
what the fuck is her problem?
>>734426873>SpoilerNOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT seriously though, they're both good, and I'm happy that you're enjoying using them
>>734426949She's killed too many family members already, to not consider it a norm to hurt them.
>>734426949She's mentally ill and also raised in an environment where violence is the norm.
>>734425401Your good units would be getting like 3 exp from those enemies
>>734427128Bro thinks this is Lunatic Fates lol
>>734426660Same, I steer clear of steeds.
>>734427128You could give that exp to roy
>>734409994I would save scum whenever I played tactics games just to see the story since I hated the game play.
>>734427086So she's like the average ghetto nigger?...
>>734427279>story>fire emblem
I gotta use her for my late great nigga hector. Sorry bananafags, real ones dont let the realest ones down.>>734426949>dungeon(s) pluralIMAGINE the amount of tomboys she has locked up
>>734427193GBA FE is not generous at all when there's a level difference between units and enemies for exp formulas, and it's even worse if your unit is promoted. 8x especially has low as fuck level enemies that barely any unit benefits from killing.
>>734426554It's actually pretty good.Less so for the damage they deal (it usually isn't much), moreso due to the change in enemy targeting priority. Because they can counter at all, enemies stop prioritizing them, and can in fact be reliably baited by other units that can't. You can make super ballsy plays with Clarine, if you follow up by slapping an unarmed unit/bow unit down in range, too, something you can't do if she's unpromoted.As long as the enemy doesn't see a kill, they will always take combats where they can't be countered over ones they can be, and this change broadly makes your staff units way better at more aggressively occupying spaces.Clarine in particular works well for this, since she has the most positioning options available anyways, and her speed makes her very unlikely to get doubled, meaning she needs significantly less bulk to avoid onerounds, but it applies to any staffer.
>>734427335I played Sacred Stones for the sole reason to make a brother and sister end up together.
>>734427226Boys on horses are grodyGirls on horses are cute though
>>734426949>>734427434>Camillafags want thisShe would make your ass bleed in her rape dungeon
>>734427568Can I interest you in Fates. There are three different degrees of incest you can make Corrin participate in. Including one that's incredibly optimal.
>>734427525By 8x you're guaranteed to have>multiple cavs unpromoted>2nd hero crest user unpromoted>Shanna likely still unpromotedReally all better options than a level 1 mage
>>734427528No.
>>734427723As an incestfag, it better be full blood brother and sister incest and not this not blood related inseki nonsense.
>>734427239The only experience Roy needs is getting ara~ara'd by Cecilia.
>>734427923>not this not blood related inseki nonsense.It is...
>>734427923There's 1 BR pairing (Corrin/Azura) but they're only cousins.
>>734428034>>734427982Oh well.
>>734427780If you can't understand and manipulate the enemy ai to move your units wherever you want without a concern, that's fine lil bro, just play the game at a level you can understand and have fun with, too.
>>734426118Proxy website still works, else this thread wouldn't exist or so I have been told
>>734410105are you okay?
>>734428182Why are filthy brocons like this?
>>734409994I always ragequit when dealing a couple lucky crits opens up a character to get mobbed by a 5character train.But ai also hate how the recent FE games focus so much on player phase
>>734410105Kill her and the person that put me in this scenario with my patented anti-faggotry beam.
>>734427923You haveInseki, the people you have been raised as siblings with, but everyone knows you aren'tFake incest, the people who both you think, and they think, you're related to, even though you aren't. But you think it's incest when you put it in.Real deepest lore incest, that you may have accidentally had before understanding the world enough to realize it was incest (that is also optimal)
>game can be beat with one strong unit being 7-8 levels above the average enemy>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SPEND EXP ON SCRIMBLOS STOP WASTING EXPKids game
>>734428347>But ai also hate how the recent FE games focus so much on player phaseThe secret is they actually aren't. For example in Engage you can have 4 straight turns of enemy phase invincibility using bonded shield.
>>734428347The problem with enemy phase games is they're all pretty much solved the same way. Turtle/death ball, or else juggernaut with a javelin/handaxe. Player phase games generally lend themselves to actually having to look at the game. I'm not saying one is necessarily better than the other, but there's only so many ways to do enemy phase games, while player phase games intrinsically lend themselves to more game design.
>Muh Exp thievesWe really have evolved, but backwards
>nobody posted in the berwick threadweird, almost like nobody actually likes it or something
>>734428438>(that is also optimal)Not really. I don't think Azura is bad or anything, but she doesn't gain anything from Corrin's heart seal talent since she's pretty much stuck as a songstress. Also Corrin doesn't care about sky knight from her, and Shigure is usually just a rallybot anyways.
>>734428542>you see engage actually starts in chapter 12>you get lucina and give an avoid engrave weapon to the cav you are giving her to>you then proceed to put your best cav in the middle of the map with a crit engrave and weapon being backed up by your bonded shield cav and the entire game basically plays itself lolThis has to be the most midwit of posts in the entirety of veefeg, it almost looks like its straight out of a youtuber but it actually comes from one of the most idiotic posters here
>>734409994i dunno i used to play Awakening a few years ago as my first tactics game and i kept losing units every chapter because my master plan i came up with just wouldnt work and i quitI played it last year and had no problems beating it multiple times now i dunno what happend but all of a sudden i had the opposite problem that the game was just to easy
>>734428343>fehirika only gets 1 S support slot for 10 ephraim altsbrutal
>>734428696Who?
>>734428730I don't do any of that avoid engraving shit since the enemies will attack the shielded unit with lower defenses anyways.
it is funny how engage went from the PEAK of tactical open ended difficult gameplay emblem to being a cheesefest thats barely harder than gba in less than a year.>bad gameplay>bad difficulty>bad dialogue>bad story>bad music>bad salesis there anything good about pissgage?
>>734428592I mean When you really think about itExp liberators are units that set up opportunities for other units to get exp, while exp thieves are units that require it to function. Exp thief was always an appropriate slur for a character, the problem was it was being applied to exp liberators, who only become exp thieves with immense retardation. "Growth unit" is synonomous with "exp thief" because they steal opportunities from other thieves, unless the unit can grow completely by itself.Fukkin. Myrrh might be the only Liberator-Thief in the series I can think of. She is here for your exp, but don't worry, she's ripping it out of things too dangerous to set up for other thieves anyways. God I love Myrrh.
>>734409994I ain't doing math homework, I'm playing vidya. Keep that nerd shit outta my games.
>>734429149Myrrh defies all categorization, the closest is gotoh-est
>>734428869Literally just brain maturity. Kids struggle with the sort of several-step-ahead critical thinking that (most) adults do trivially. Kids see the most immediately obvious, immediately beneficial moveAdults can see a move that is less immediately good, but puts you in a much better position later.
>>734429108I dislike how many Engage units are good only after they're reclassed into something very different from their canon classes.
>everyone online having a melty over Micaiah groomingits so tiresome
>>734429108How it lives rent free on your head.
>>734429665Again?
>>734429332Also the best dragon design of manaketes in the series bar none. The fat chicken is very cute though.Myrrh's the only manakete I ever actually felt like actually made good on the whole "this is actually a thousand year old dragon" schtick, you know?
>15~20 enemies per map early to mid game>25~40 enemies per map mid to end game>3~6 exp per combat at 10~20 levels above enemy>enemies get 1 level each map>bosses give extra exp and are often promoted/higher levelYou can level as many scrimblos as you want while keeping your strong guys strong enough to still solo the entire game, that is the whole shtick with ranked runs. Just go and grind Lugh, Lilina and Wendy. The units that matter will still be just as good
>>734429149At this point just play %0 growths if you hate early game shitters so much.
>>734429812Chiki is better
>>734429108>is there anything good about pissgageIt made the people only here for three houses leave, when they realized three houses was an extreme outlier game, not the way Fire Emblem was now. Granted, this is good in the way that shitting yourself while on public transit so the crackheads don't sit next to you in particular is good.
>>734429454Applies only to anna? And even then this is dishonest at best since anna can use the hurricane axe and radiant bow to extremely great effect as a warrior.
>Everyone ITT
>>734430038>hurricane and radiant with that little conSpeaking of dishonesty! And Framme and Clanne are shit as they are.
>>734429973The chicken is the only other good manakete, yes
>>734429665now with added Eirika seething!
>>734430095I literally beat maddening engayge with mage knight clanne and vidame celine using bolganne and levin sword.You are a neanderthal and a clown.
>>734430075Recruiting Percival on his first appearance is better because you get the Knight's crest earlier. HM bonuses are a meme that he doesn't need.
>>734430075>rutger fujo
>>734430176Who the fuck brought up CelineStupid faggot
someone explain how weapons work in fates. why does everything have a bunch of penalties stuck to it? am I just supposed to use iron weapons for the entire game? when it says -5 evade is that a penalty for the user or for the target?
>>734430242>woman >on this shitholeUnless you are craving troons you faggot.
>>734430283Celine and Clanne are identical except vidame does not put her on a horse. You are a fucking double nigger idiot without any actual arguments
>>734430283Retarded nigger
>>734430325>why does everything have a bunch of penalties stuck to it? Because weight and durability don't exist, so they get balanced in different ways>am I just supposed to use iron weapons for the entire gameThat's the path of least resistance, but not the optimal path. Use the right weapon for the right situation>when it says -5 evade is that a penalty for the user or for the targetFor the user
>>734430362>He doesn't knowReal women post in these threads. FE is one of the few series with a non negligible female fanbase.
>>734410105was based until the cbt which im partly convinced is a psyop to make men accidently castrate themselves
>>734430505sure retarded neckbeard
>>734430095Honestly I like Framme as a unit. She can just get exp from staffing and Flashing Fist is ridiculously good for a lot of the game.
>>734430557Women have posted proof, newfag
>>734430095Martial Master Framme is very strong support unit that enables a bunch of interesting stats and Mage Knight Clanne is decent and I believe it became extremely strong when the well released.
>>734430452>weightis the -3 follow up speed on steel weapons essentially weight?>>734430452>durabilitybut it was fine in other games to have essentially unbreakable brave swords or actually unbreakable killer bows?>Use the right weapon for the right situationso silver weapons that debuff you for using them are just for killing the last strong enemy in a group or something?
>>734430602Jean does 3 more damage per hit than her and is more durable
>>734430325Forged iron weapons are better than everything else for 80% of situations. Effective and triangle reversal weapons are for 19% of situations. Everything might have a niche for the last 1% every now and then but generally suck. S rank weapons are a complete travesty and would be plenty balanced by the fact that they come at the ass end of the game and require very specific mono weapon classes to use at all. Instead they're worthless completely no fun allowed overbalanced garbage.
>>734430325evasion is a meme in fates unless you are ryoma or something
>>734430038Hoh boy.>Kagetsu goes from mediocre to best unit in the game when you free him from Swordmaster. >Panette is improved in every single metric she could be in Warrior instead of Berserker>Goldmary needs to be put in something tanky to make use of her monster Def growth>Clanne and Framme have completely fucked stats for what they "should" promote to>Jean as a unit only works with a reclass, even worse this bitch probably needs two>Jade violently needs reclassing to a hybrid or magical class to function at all>Half the characters in the game want to be a Warrior instead of whatever their base class is just in general Honestly you're better off noting which units are fine in their base class as the exceptions. Pandero, Louis, Citrinne, Ivy, Hortensia, Rosado, Chloe, Yunaka, Merrin, Mauvier, and Veyle. Everyone else wants a reclass. Chloe, Merrin and Rosado MIGHT still want a reclass, they just are FINE without one, and Merrin specifically gets a hell of a lot worse if you need to actually invest anything in her.
>>734430505All the women who play Fire Emblem are on reddit, seething at Camilla or something else.
>>734430845No NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOO
>>734430827S rank and silvers are there to abuse dual attacks
>>734430845swordmaster is a good class and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>>734430325Iron is almost always the best.Triangle control weapons are good sometimes.Silvers are okay for boss kills, since the goal is finishing the battle with that combat. A FEW other weapons have situational benefits worth playing around.Most are just trash though
>>734430325Steel weapons are still pretty good on enemies you werent doubling anyways. Effective weapons are good. Bronze weapons are OP as hell if you have infinite ores cheated in because of their low cost. Tomahawk and Spear are both really good for dual strikes. Brave weapons seem like a meme but I think they are generally worth their downsides.>-5 avoidpenalty for the user. iirc killer weapons come with -20 avoid and 4X crit damage, but otherwise i dont think there are weapons that reduce your avoid.
>>734430757>is the -3 follow up speed on steel weapons essentially weight?Kind of, but steel weapons don't make you easier to double attack for enemies. All they do is make it harder for you to double when you have it equipped, so it's not bidirectional like weapon weight normally is. Javelins and hand axes, on the other hand, do lower your overall effective speed and make you easier to double.
>FE>TacticsIf I were in charge of Pokémon I’d make gym badges cap your Pokémon’s level
>>734430757>is the -3 follow up speed on steel weapons essentially weightPretty much, but it's not applied to all weapons unconditionally as you've noticed, and the mechanics aren't exactly the same either. Some weapons have this pseudo-weight, some don't.>so silver weapons that debuff you for using them are just for killing the last strong enemy in a group or somethingFor instance. They're especially good for bows since effective damage scales far more than enough to scale for the small strenght penalty. They're also good for dual strikes, since they don't give debuffs when used for that, plus they're good for oneshotting dagger users before they get the chance to debuff you harder than the silver weapon would.
>>734430845>kagetsu goes from MEDIOCRE as in swordmaster is perfectly viable>panette is improved as a warrior which means she can still be a berserker and still perform>goldmary NEEDS to be put un something tankyFirst time you actually used correct wording, either way you’re wrong, infact making tanky units tankier usually defeats the purpose of being tanky and makes it harder for them to use emblems like ike and hector. Mid-defenses are fine.>clanne and framme have completely fucked statsYou mean clanne does, and he still can perform well as a mage knight and is literally on par with Citrinne or Celine for it so you do not have a point.>jean only works as a reclassFalse.>jades needs a reclassAlso false>half the characters in the game want to be warriorFalse once again.Playing the game “efficiently” does not mean their base classes are unviable, which is basically what your entire post amounts to, which is completely irrelevant to what the other anon said.
Are you niggas seriously pretending that exp is a limited resource in fe6? Theres like 70 enemies on every chapter
>poketranny thinks its opinion matters
>>734431040are javelin and hand axe good or bad? it says they can't dual attack but 1x damage from throwing the javelin is more than .5x damage from the dual attack.
>>734430095>needing to double with hurricane>can’t use radiant bow because of “con”Why is every single “efficiency” fag a disgusting lying cunt.
>>734430075yggdra union is cool, though
>>734431174If you are getting the stat bloated homosexualgage enemies to avoid you from having too much defense, you might just be cheating. After like solm, that just isnt happening
>>734431284pretty bad, there are way better 1-2r weapons for free, don't even bother wasting funds on them
>>734429665I'm curious what the fuck else they think she has to talk about?If she isn't whining about nationalism and committing warcrimes, she's grooming her son. That's her entire character.
I respect cheaters more than efficience trannies.
>>734431209It's just another case of acting like only one strategy exists, and anybody daring to suggest otherwise is a heretic (i.e. a grindfag).
>>734431284always useful to have, just don't spend your entire funds on them
>>734431007Depends on the game.In Engage it's dogshit, saved from being the worst promoted class in the game entirely by Berserker being utterly unholy. Honestly even then Berserker might genuinely be better, because you MIGHT actually promote Jean to Berserker to ascend the small british boy to Pillar Man levels of Con. You shouldn't, but that is more use case than Swordmaster can say it has, which apparantly exists entirely so that Kagetsu can smuggle about five levels of effective stats into a better class.I actually value their consistent offense in some games they tend to be snubbed in, but Engage Swordmasters have so much wrong with them it's just sad.
I'll just stick with Soren.
Engagetrannies are a cult
>>734431284>cant dual attackThey can be used in dual strikes. You are confusing dual strike with follow up attacks AKA doubling. Javelins cant double even if you have enough speed to.
>>734431150One of the most idiotic pokemon opinion. Literally the very definition of midwit.Even a clinically retarded person has more mental capacity than you.You haven’t even touched competitive pokemon for more than a day and you pretend you know anything about tactics let alone speak with authority about it.
>>734431284They are situationally useful since 1-2 range is still good, but definitly not spammable. You can also use them for cool dual strike strats if you're smart with them.
3HRTsissies love to abuse the victim card.
>>734431406Maybe being the true apostle of the god of chaos or being a national hero and miracle maker
I don't ever wanna hear you cunts cry about Wyvern Emblem in Three Houses. What are you doin?! It's efficient so it's bad!
>>734431557U mad
>>734431336If you are using a general this definitely happens. Ive seen it happen on vander great knight but I was using kektor on him.
>>734431536Ilyana is better than this strlet
>>734428227a certain dubious few would still be shitting up the thread if it was up, but the host has fire on his ass at the moment kek
>>734431637i am satisfied with this response since it shows me you’re nothing but a baiting retard.
>>734431406Honestly this.I don't even think Miciah is that bad in absolute terms, the problem is there's nothing else BUT bad. There's not a single good thing about the character, besides tits, and how funny it is that even her own goddamn game can't wait to push her down some stairs for Ike again.Calling her a groomer is genuinely the most interesting thing about her, meme or otherwise. It's unfortunate, I wish she wasn't a dogshit character, I wish the formula of the lord also being a utility/staff unit was revisited, but no amount of wishing for something better than Miciah will make Miciah good.
>>734431634>Just a few posts after >>734431618Kek
>>734431210Tomato. Tomato.Overlevel some fat and it becomes a 1 button masher.Go play fucking StarCraft
>literally no one brings up engage>PISSGAGE! ENGAYGE, TRANSGAGE!!!what is your problem?
>>734431798Retardbro, think, what game were we discussing?
>>734431863Shadows? Warriors maybe?
>>734431634Not enough battallion for Wyvern spam.
>>734431798but it was this post that started the shitfest >>734429108
>>734431798The anti-engage schizo's purpose is to whine about Engage. Without it, he'd be left with nothing.
>>734431484berserker is a fantastic class
>>734431798You do realise the conversation is about engage right
>>734431798>playing the victim card
>>734431897Is this reforged?
>>734431863>>734432023no one was talking about engage prior to that post, you game warring faggots
>>734431557I play competitive Pokémon and gym badges should cap your party's level
>>734432163Sacred TrilogyI only took that screenshot because Catwoman.
>>734432241No you don’t
>>734432018Not in Engage, where it is objectively worse than Warrior by every single metric that matters. I say this as someone who's favorite class in a Fire Emblem game is usually Berserker, and pushes Dozla as being good.
>>734432217>bringing up a fire emblem in a fire emblem thread is le BAD OKAY
>>734431627>her personality is telling people that she was chosen by blood to do stuff, over and overWow, amazing character. I'm sure she'd love talking about that over her family.
>>734432306oh okay
>>734432217>literally no one brings up engage>>734429108
>>734432018It's... okay. It just gets absolutely mogged by Warrior so it looks way worse than it really is. If it at least got the bonus crit like in older games maybe people would be more forgiving.
>>734431634Wyvern isn't really that good in 3 houses.Any well built physical male character wants to be in War Master. Well built physical female characters have to settle for wyvern or bow knight, only Hilda and Catherine really excel in it. No magic unit wants to touch it besides Annette if you're smoking meth this run, and poorly built/filler units are almost universally better in Bishop or Holy/Dark Knight, because mediocre combat is better with mediocre white magic than with flight.
>>734432324>LISTEN CHVDDY, THIS THREAD WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT ENGAGE THIS ENTIRE TIME AND NOT SOME PETTY FE6 WAIFUFAGGOTRY, WHICH GIVE ME FREE REIGN TO BE AN OBNOXIOUS-
>>734432701>you can only say good things about engage buddy!
You fags really let the anti-Engage schizo manipulate you this easily?
>>734432507it has better class growths than warrior in a game with fixed mode.
>>734432701>PETTY FE6 WAIFUFAGGOTRYAnon is rightWe should be arguing about which is better among tomboy pussy, ojou pussy, princess pussy, nerd pussy, sweaty armored pussy, hag pussy, holy woman pussy, dragon pussy, unwashed plainswoman pussy, or childhood friend pussy.
I liked engage, but it and ESPECIALLY the fucking abysmal fell xenologue shows that IS needs to fire basically their entire writing team, good god is the story abysmal and 9/10 of the supports are a single joke per character repeated ad infinitum.
>>734433184I can't think about the Xenologue without remembering that Nel vored two women and pooped out two bracelets.
>>734433184Ummm, this is a gameplay thread sweaty. Go make a story thread if you wanna complain about Engage's awful story that we all agree is awful so it's pointless to bring it up.
>>734433184Komuro's goat throat game is peak
>Poop jokesSo this is the riveting stories and lore of Fire emblem.
Can we argue about whether Nosferatu should be a light or dark tome again
>>734433283I just finished it for the first time yesterday so needed to vent
FE6 is a bad game but with great girls
>>734433095Personally, I advocate for reclassing Framme into Armor/General for this reason. Just imagine her panties being absolutely pickled in sweat, pussy juice, and sexual frustration at being unable to touch herself constantly while next to Alear.Classing Annette into Priest and Bishop is good, too.
>>734433463paizuri
>>734433467Agreed.Even FE6's worstgirl is a solid 6/10
>>734433339Maeda...
>all of the sudden thread derails into complaining about Engagelet me guess, /feg/ is having another melty due to engage seasonals or what?
>>734433590Fuck forgot the worstgirl in question
>>734433508Many such cases
>FE6>good girlsWhat are their personalities you shit eater?
>>734420975hes based doe
>>734433450That was a good, short thread. It was fun to ponder on what resire meant desu.
>>734433635>victim card
>>734433635>sir, they added another cup size to Hortensia
Fir is better than Rutger
>im based doe
>>734433771Tipiss
>>734433467
>they've been complaining about Engage>IS: DEPLOY 5 MORE CELINE ALTS
>>734433813Both are bad but yes just because of promotion gains.The meme gif about a cherrypicked situation never proved anything
>>734433959Based IS doesn't kneel to whiners and schizos.
>>734433813Yeah but you already have Rutger and Rutger has a level advantage
>>734434030>whiners and schizos.Yes, more Celine alts, we've established this
This fag is still out here trying to gaslight people into buying that Rutger is bad.
>>734433686Lilina is niceClarine is haughtyCecilia is a teacherThany is a newbieThea is a serious commander(?)Juno is a caring older sisterSue is a prancing lala hippy dippyWendy wants to trainNiime is crochety but wiseGuinevere has regretsElen is exactly what you'd expect the early game cleric to act likeFir wants to find her mom and learn the swordIgrene is filled with regret due to her tragedy porn backstoryFa is a child with the brain of a four year oldI could not tell you a single thing about Melady except Zeiss is her brother and she's friends with Galle or something?If I missed any girls, they probably weren't important
Lilina > Rutger
>>734434085Thank you, @hypnotoadicmemes
>>734434085*farts on your face*
>>734433686>cathkleptomaniac>clarinebratty rich girl>ririnauuh she's nice :)>shannashe perky>theashe serious>Junoshe old>Niimeshe really old>Sueuga buga me a savage>FirBetter than Rutger personality>Larumwhore personality>Sophiadiet coke Julia>Ceciliashe groom>Wendyshe protecc>Igreneshe protecc Fae>Faebabbu>DorothyI genuenly don't remember>Elenshe exists>Idunnshe exists only to sufferBrunnyashe exists only to simp>Guinivereshould have had a romance with Roy
>>734434140>If I missed any girls, they probably weren't importantI am....forgotten
>>734434018>>734434154Get to the shelter, the truth bombs are dropping
>>734434249Good she is dogshit like your tastes tripfaggot.
>>734434187Dorothy is supposed to be the straight man to Saul's silly antics.
>>734434268>Can insult other people but too chikenshit to post their own tastes
>>734434140>>734434187>missed Cath, Sophia, and LarumYeah, not important butCath is a Robinhood typeSophia is very mentally slow, but proof that dragons and humans can coexist I guessLarum is what you'd expect your young teen dancer to be like. She had something going on with Douglas being her adopted dad or something, I don't remember, recruiting him blows>>734434249Idunn is mindbroken zzz
>>734433959Strange how much love Celine gets in FEH when she's pretty awful in her own game
>>734434345Not gonna share anything with you inbred retards.
>>734434345Tbf, I have never seen you dislike any FE girl. I doubt you'd insult him for his tastes no matter who he posted.
>>734434352>Sophia is very mentally slowOh so that's why she sucks so much in-game. She's a retard.
>>734434691>She's a retard.Just like any FE6 fans.
FE6 bad
>>734433467Very good characters such as>annoying child>annoying child>annoying child>Sociable pegaslut>reserved pegaslut>annoying child (old hag edition)>actual old hag
>>734434352>Sophia is very mentally slow, but proof that dragons and humans can coexist I guessIirc Sophia's schtick is she's constantly having visions of the future, so is constantly distracted. Iirc Niime's support talks about this. I could be tripping balls though I read the supports for this game like a decade ago
>>734434859let me guess, you think 3H is the peak of writing?
>>734434839Threesome with Miledy and Guinevere
>>734434470Its ok ogre finnegans wake is overrated tripe
>>734434140>lilina is nicekek
>>734434930Melady only fucks her wyvern, that's how it gets all those stats
>>734409994>wtf just calculate the damage you will be receivinghmmmm i think i will activate godmode and enjoy the story
>>734434917Peak of writing?NoPeak of Fire Emblem writing? Probably. 4 is the only other well written Fire Emblem game, and 4 is the kind of thing that was novel for the time, but isn't really that special in the big picture. Still hands over feet better than any other Fire Emblem besides three houses though.These games are not well written, and 3 Houses was only well written because Koei wrote it.
>>734434187Her garret support is good at least
>>734434917Worse. It's a Komuro shitslurper
>>734431174>Clanne is on par with Celine and CitrinneHe's on par with Celine and worse than Citrinne.>>734430845Goldmary works just fine as a Hero.Clanne's mag/str growth shit is a meme. Magic Clanne is still better.
>>734434376Empress posters infiltrated IS
>3h>well written
>>734432754not what i said at all, you illiterate brownoid
>>734435187You got a problem with abasedkening?
>>734434187>sophia>diet coke juliaboth are good
>>734435365Big picture, no it isn't.But it mogs the shit out of the rest of the series. If 3 Houses is a 4/10, the rest of fire emblem is a 2/10. Fates is a 1/10.
>>734435187>>734435397You have a problem with Komuro too?
>>734435281He’s actually mathematically on par with Citrinne you are just stupid and only thinking about mag without taking into account speed
>>734435281>He's on par with Celine and worse than Citrinne.Clanne with +speed skill will double just about anything in the game, his mag isn't THAT terrible. Also good dex. How is he worse than Citrinne?
>>734435603fe1 and 3 are well written THOUGH
>>734409994Lilina chan!
>>734435683Omg its this annoying retard again. Citrinne can easily 1 tap enemies with some favoritism and vantage for like 7 chapters straight after you recruit her
>>734435794>with some favoritismIts insane how you call anyone a retard.
>>734435281He's better than Citinne. He isn't dependent on Lyn+meals to double and the existence of sword power alone makes the difference in their magic a non-issue.
>>734435603PoR and Thracia was also well written too.I haven't played Genealogy yet, but probably that one too.
>>734435701>Hey Marth, do this. Why? Idk, we'll figure it out eventually, I hope>I'm going to destroy the world because my arranged marriage wife isn't madly in love with meGreat writing kek
>high level gameplay discussion>people just calling eachother retards for 500 postsShadows thread next pls
>>734435281>Goldmary works just fine as a Hero.I mean she's not utterly deficient, but it's undeniable that she's way way better in something else. And Goldmary isn't really good enough to use with zero investment anyways, so if you're using her at all, you may as well switch her to something better to benefit her. There's no reason to leave her in Hero, except you are absurdly poor and can't afford to reclass her. In which case, you probably can't invest properly in her either.
Céline is a good unit
>Engage is good
>>734436037PoR and 4 are 3/10. PoR is only a 3 if you completely ignore any of the implications RD has on it, though
>>734436197Lilina glazing is not "high level" discussion
>>734436491I base all my unit ratings on relay performance and lilina won so its not glazing, its empirical evidence
FE6 won
>>734436332Gay opinion, but that RD argument is a good point lol.
>>734436567we havent even beaten a relay since like april last year
>>734434894I have no idea if that's true, but I believe you
>>734436267Celine is not even the best hybrid unit, in a game that has an abundance of resources that only hybrid units want. Clanne, Chloe, and, of all units, Jade make infinitely better use of these resources than Celine.Celine's only niche, is coming with Celica equipped, and ignorant players not understanding that the ring is doing all the heavy lifting.
I remember when Clannefag argued with Celinefag in the Clannepilled thread.We’ve come far
>>734436746Honestly I like vidame. Its like a horseless mage knight that trades the horse for b in staffs.Its coolWould use again
>>734436663Uh, fe8? Birthright?
>>734436746Redpill me on mixed Jade
Radiant PathDawn of Radiance
>>734437084
>>734437201PoV: You're a 10 year old boy
>>734436567So Wendy is top-tier cuz she got grinded to 20/20 over the course of like two chapters?
>relay this relay thatHow about you guys put your money where your mouth is and we see whos actually better between ririna and rugh. I'll start us off.
>>734437442What does a relay prove? Some Lilina-fag will just grind her again and they'll both be good.
Marcus crits one of the fighters, but luckily two are still low enough to be fed to alance
>>734436864fe8*
Mission accomplished
The only way to prove it is to do a fixed growths run where both are used and we evaluate who performed better. Doing fixed growths will also make it obvious if any scrimblofag fed them stat boosters.
>>734437669>grindingNOBODY CARESSSSS
>no strHate this guy>>734437770Trapping archers is /feg/ culture
Do not put dick in crazy.https://files.catbox.moe/khbaiv.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/d6bz34.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/650v9h.jpeg
>>734437718>The only way to prove it is to do a fixed growths run where both are used and we evaluate who performed better.That's completely at the discretion of the people playing. If I hate Lugh I can just grind Lilina and give her the first guiding ring to invalidate Lugh for the remainder of the game.
>>734437801>no speedHate this guy
Subquest complete
>>734436304Yes!
Damas down. Sav soon
>>734436871Jade's magic growth is actually the same as Celine's. Actually her strength growth is the same, too. However her bulk is considerably higher, and her much higher build basically offsets the small speed difference with most weapons. Celine's magic base is actually ass, it's her class doing most of the work for her recruit stats, so it's actually not even unreasonable for them to have comparable true magic stats when you get Jade. Jade ends up with iirc 11 or 12 at base if you immediately reclass to mage or promote then reclass to Mage Knight. Jade is pretty uniquely able to fill the niche of bulky hybrid, whereas the others all end up super squishy. Fat mages are almost always super good in these games, and Engage is no exception. Bear in mind, I think calling Jade good is a stretch, she has a lot of flaws, but literally anything Celine can do besides her unique class, Jade does while being more bulky. If you plan on Mage Knight Celine, Jade is strictly better, while consuming the same resources to do it (with the caveat that she requires those resources immediately when recruited, making her a bit less flexible) Jade is kind of a sleeper unit, because you have exactly one chapter to get her shit in gear (basically requiring you to either bank shards or put off Anna for Jade's benefit), and she immediately requires that down payment of investment to be worth anything at all. Chloe is easily the best hybrid character, but Jade is actually pretty good, if you invest what she needs early.
>>734438373https://files.catbox.moe/c198ei.savRom https://files.catbox.moe/74oito.gbaChapter 2 bros, its time
>>734436187>destroy the worldoh, someone hasn't played fe3
>>734438215Bless whoever on the Engage team clearly had a tummy fetish. You are my sworn brother.
>>734437385>Died immediately afterwardsNope. Lilina has repeat good performances in relays btw, so she's beyond vindicated at this point by the scientific method.
>>734438591>Clanne promotes>Immediately gets into a bdsm outfitI don't know how I feel about this bros
>>734437801>>734437960Good first levels desu, proud of them both
>>734438779She only died because she got intentionally killed. Not like "suspiciously" killed, but the guy outright unequipped her and let a promoted enemy hit her until she died.
>>734438583Isn't that Medeus' goal at this point? Also, Hardin is bringing every country to ruin by enslaving and pillaging them, with such well-characterized henchmen such as general Lang
>>734438463>all the gameplayfags suspiciously evaporate when a relay file is posted
>>734439180they struggle with SS and PoR what did you expect
>>734439240?? we beat POR though
>>734439180>You talked about the game so you're absolutely required to beat it for a third time
>>734439180I don’t care about your autistic argument.
>>734439285do you know what the word struggle means
>>734439304It's like the fifth time if you include the older /feg/ runs too, back when those threads were still useable. Then again, I might pick up a chapter of this run if I get bored, I don't mind playing vidya.
>>734437901This is a very compelling argument for me to stick my dick in crazy.
>>734439418>IS let you stick your dick in a woman with half a liquefied brain in Emmeryn
>>734439180I'm a gameplayfag but I don't like relays. I think FE is a highly personalized experience and relays go against that.
>>734439517The massive head injury makes it hotter
>>734439591YeahI've tried it onceAll my units feel dirty when I get them so it's not fun.
>>734439665I get what you mean but it's kind of fun to try to "clean" the dirty units you're handed sometimes.
>>734439079yeah, but you were referencing hardin specifically, who for all intents and purposes, was basically aiming to rule akaneia with an iron fist. fe3 isn't deep in the slightest, that's not at all what i was suggesting. fe1 and 3 are a well paced, shlocky, but ultimately entertaining soap opera epic that doesn't have groanworthy dialogue, and that's enough (and frankly more than what most fe stories can offer lmao). a story doesn't have to be a multi-faceted jungian metaphor to be good, i seriously don't know how storyfags manage to miss this
>>734438445Neat, thanks for the writeup anon
Story fags like all FE troons love to smell their own farts.
