The ultimate videogame crossover
FE hate was really overblown in Smash. Remove Lucina, Roy, and Chrom and it would be fine.
>>734442936I think it was completely warranted but the "anime swordsman" shit was nonsense. cloud and link are also anime swordsmen and they are vastly different aesthetically and mechanically, the FE shits all rook same and have the same fucking movesets. they really needed to throw in a wildcard like a commander character that orders units around or some shit, byleth could have been great as a pokemon trainer type if it was swapping between the 3 different characters instead of just giving them their weapons. even pyra/mythra had a unique mechanic with the blade swapping instead of it just being rex or some stupid shit. robin is like the only one that gets a pass purely for being a motherfucking wizard.
I'm looking forward to Alear and Cai (actually I'd prefer Dietrich) getting into the next Smash and witnessing the seethe all over again.But seriously, it's ridiculous to get so anally annihilated over 7 characters in a roster as fucking huge as Smash.
>Tendie eaters are it again
>>734442936It's not overblown when the game means jackshit in the west
>>734443240>it's ridiculous to get so anally annihilated over 7 characters in a roster as fucking huge as Smash.Not really when >>734443513
>>734442936FE Lord hate, FE has a huge variety to choose fro and we get Robin, Ike, and Marth...and Marth... and Marth...and Marth...
what happened to the other thread
>>734445276What do you think
>>734442936People just want other franchises to get some representation. You'll see fags argue against including side characters from popular franchises like Zelda evening when Awakening has Chrom and Lucina, two unnecessary characters. Also nobody likes the guaranteed "we have to shill our latest game" picks.
>>734443621This. Not having an axe, spear, or bow character until Byleth (who is, unfortunately, all three) is absolutely criminal. And note how the one non-lord, Robin, is, without a doubt, the best implemented FE rep.
>>734445276they're oppressing us
>>734445276>anon starts a new relay>threads IMMEDIATELY start getting shit-canned again after like a week of janny radio silenceNo playing video games on the video games board.
>>734442936You forgot byleth and robin
>>734446323Jannies have always been the real enemy
>>734443621Tbf, a big part of it is the fault of meleefags. They whined about him getting cut senseless, depsite him sucking in smash and not being popular as a FE lord.
where can we do relay in peaceis /vst/ any good
>>734442332Marth, Ike, Corrin, Robin and Byleyh would be five unique movesets. Maybe stop giving them all down+B counters though.
reminder americans are depicted as cry babies for now clapping for the 7th rep of a series they don't like when they were actually welcoming of Marth and Roy but the one time the west got ONE rep that was popular there and not in Japan, Little Mac, they immediately threw a shit fit
>>734446751You could maybe raid the FE thread on /vst/ which is talking about romhacks and e-celebs more than actual FE, but I dunno if you'd get much activity there.
MarthLucinaCorrinBylethThat’s it, the rest of you dimeless shitters begone.
>>734442332>>734442936Lucina and Roy are now skins for Marth. Add in Celica, Seliph, Leif, Eirika, Elincia, and FAlear as skins.Keep Ike.Keep Robin.Keep Byleth.Cut Chrom and Corrin.Promote Lyn from Assist Trophy to playable.Promote Black Knight to Ike skin.Add Veronica and Gullveig as assist trophies.
>>734443513Smash is a japanese game.
Cutesythea
FE is a main Nintendo franchise of course they're gonna get a lot of characters>b-but they look similar! Cry about it. I hope they add even more Anime sword fighters
>>734448904Sex
>>734446338>remove the characters from two of the most successful FE games everrosterfags love proving that they hate video games, especially Nintendo ones.
>>734442332>this December will be the 10 year anniversary of Corrin's Smash 4 reveal>Smashfags STILL haven't gotten over it
>>734443168>if it was swapping between the 3 different charactersLmao you want fe to take up 4 dlc slots?
>>734445874Both of them are lords no side characters here:)
>>734451376>a triple character would somehow infringe on the other slots>fighters pass 2 had more characters than 1 despite having pyra/mythra as the same kind of shitwhat an odd thing to say
https://files.catbox.moe/c198ei.savRom https://files.catbox.moe/74oito.gbaChapter 2 bros, its time
>>734446751>>734446323Go ahead, its posted now
>>734451730test
>>734452787Are you going to play? Good luck anon
>>734453456I don't have the growth rates picture, but I guess Azura tops here.
Pegasus Knights don’t wear panties. Of course, they wear safety shorts.
>>734451529Please actually use your brain. Pyra and mythras normals are essentially exactly the same
>>734442332Do you like knowing that the next smash is guaranteed to have the protag of the Three Houses Sequel?Also don't forget the Xenoblade 3 reps
>>734454250No, they don't wear anything.
>>734454682>the next smashlol
>>734454682>the three houses sequelfortune's weave, and it might be a prequel.
pegaslut pee
>>734442332I want to play as an axe user like Hector or Edelgard.
>>734451730>used wolt so much he's level 5 with a broken weapon
>>734455181typical turn 1 rescue drop things.
>>734455181The guy who played didn't post any combat or level ups for Wolt, so I assumed he wasn't using him. Did he get any good gains at least? Also do you have any plans for this map like support building?
>>734455368here are his stats. i think I'm just going to focus on deke and shanna
>>734451263is there a way to make this guy look less zesty? at least give him some shoes? I picked the most manly looking customization options but he still looks like a fruit.
>>734455448bought a few things with merlinus but left 6k
>>734455448>4/4 SPD at 40% growthDeke/Shanna isn't bad. Even if they aren't being used long term, picking up Wade/Lot can be helpful for chapters 4 and 7. It's only 10 turns for the first one.
>>734455621we should kill all the good units like Percival and Melady to force everyone to use the shitters like Wolt and Lot and Wade
>>734455561just sitting on the forts
>>734455561It's always interesting to watch other anons play this simple map. I always put Dieck and one of the axe boys on the forts on turn 2 to have them choke that side.
>>734455824it just feels like a lot of heat to be taking on at once. i know hitrates are bad in this game but if they decide to hit a lot in a row it would be better to be grouped
>>734455621I just threw wolt at damas for like 60 turns while support grinding. If you think I would waste my time rigging wolt idk what to say
>>734455890it's happened before
>>734455883Make sure to let marcus slam the iron axe into the boss 45 times so he levels up his weapon rank and gets to use the halberd for chapter 4. Very important!
>>734455963i can do that.
>someone starts fe7 run>dropped>someone starts fe8 run>droppedplace your bets on what will happen to this one
peak GBA trans gameplay
>>734455621make that 5/5 what the hell?
>>734456071Fe7 was never popular and fe8 was already beaten recently, only sabotaged at the very end by a troll so it didnt have momentum for a replay
>>734455963>45 timesDamn FE6 weapon grind. What I normally do with the chapter 2/3 bosses is have Marcus whittle them down with the iron axe until the next hit would kill and then feed it to either Roy with the rapier or Dieck with the armorslayer or something.
>>734456086Looks like it's time for a Wolt carry.
>>734456086i guess we're using wolt. we're probably dropping him after ch7, both because those wyverns are the first dangerous thing he might help with and because lillina is right after who will hoard the xp.
>>734442936They went from 3 slots to 8 while other series stuck with 1 or 2
>>734456357archer surrounding
>>734456357>using woltIve seen this movie before...
>>734456071I'm honestly happy to see FE6. FE7 and 8 are just too boring.
>>734456416with a double crit i kill him from full but that's unlikely. just going to hit him over and over for axe xp.
Marth, Ike, Robin, Corrin, and Byleth are all radically different functions and I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise in good faith.
>>734456490>grinding archers for 60 turns and then grinding marcus for 45 turns on the first two maps isnt boring
>>734456357>we're probably dropping him after ch7It would still be crazy useful if he already has the rank to use the killer bow there.
Feg trans and their triple digit turn grind seasons mention a more iconic duo
>>734456602it's on marcus he just got an hp luck level it's not like he's gaining stats that matter
>>734456512Any good Thany levels?
So there's another FE6 relay going...again?
>>734456694her level was just luck 15 uses left
>>734456745yes, again again
>>734456746>using the whole axe still puts you in e rankand people complain about fates weapon ranks.
>>734456840deke armorslayer kill
>>734456840Ye, it's 50 swings per level in FE6. Did either of the cav boys get any levels here?
>>734456745This board would rather kill themselves than play something other than GBA/Fates
>enter smash thread>its completely infiltrated by anime fags>not a single post about super smash brothers melee for the nintendo gamecube
>>734456903why does this save file have a random chapter 17 save? oh well.save https://files.catbox.moe/7v5bmo.savRom https://files.catbox.moe/74oito.gba
>>734457026Oh so thats what that was...
>>734457021sorry no one wants to discuss stupid drama with you trannoid
>>734443168Funny how the "anime swordsman" crowd was largely completely okay with Sora's inclusion.
>>734457021The "anime fags" are playing vidya while you want to dramafag.
>>734458317Play smash then
should I do paralogues as soon as they unlock or save them for later?
>>734458448Nah, I'd rather play some Fire Emblem.
>>734458464In CQ? Usually you want to do them pretty soon after they unlock unless you want the child unit to inherit a specific skill.
>>734458464I usually save them unless i really need the child unit. They are good ways to grind up your units to benchmarks like level 5 and 15. Ophelia and Percy are the only ones worth doing ASAP just for the rewards if you dont care about using those units.
>>734458464First of all>what game?assuming you're the Fates-anon though...It depends. If you want a certain kid or reward early, do it sooner. If you want to wait and let the kid bake in the ovenrealms a while and inherit better skills, delay. If you want to a paralogue save it for exp and support/skill routing, delay until needed. It really just depends.
>>734457026Um anon, you uploaded a blank save
>>734458714Asap ophelia is really hard. The enemies are very tanky and the rewards arent good early on anyways. What, a bunch of tomes you cant use til much later? Spirit dust?
>>734458464I remember the paralogues getting pretty fucking bullshit if you wait too long. After getting Camilla is usually a safe bet for it I think? It’s been awhile
Isn't 8 reps a bit much for this no-name series?
>>734458835worked on my machine but i wasn't using the exact rom that was handed from these threads, but the save loaded fine even in that rom. here's a reuploadsav https://files.catbox.moe/wss16n.savand here's a save state if the above doesn't workss1 https://files.catbox.moe/yiphp8.ss3also i deleted the mystery middle save.
>>734458853Anon Ophelia's paralogue only gets harder if you wait. When the enemies are unpromoted it's easy. Horse Spirit is immediately useful but practically speaking, you're getting it around Ch. 16-18 anyway. Waiting any longer than this is definitely retarded.
>>734451263Corrin was revealed in 2015, this is 2026.
>>734442332When I was young I ignored these guys as I only wanted to play characters I knew like Mario. Later on I became aware of the seethe over them for being the "same". I ended up playing them and found out not only they aren't all the same, but they have some of the most diverse gameplay of any characters. There are many nuances to notFate sword fighters.
>save states
>>734459840I'm just using them for passing the save around because there was issues.
>>734459840It's called Mila's Timewheel
Brother if you don't know to import saves into your VBA or mGBA you should remove yourself from the gene pool.
>>734459960Whenever there's no canon explanation for rewinds or save states, I just assume it's Gullveig going "You lost another unit? Really?"
Alright, the sav actually works now
>>734460092who?
>>734460142Memeable image
>>734460202
>>734460202Going over the inventory, we're one lance short from what I usually have. An iron lance to be exact, Lance himself is fine.
>>734460361Pretty happy with this first level
>>734460546Damn this alan is TRASH
>>734442936Nope. Marth, Roy and Ike should be the only ones. Theyre the only cool ones.
>>734460361There's some stuff in the convoy
>>734460546I've made a mistake to assume that Wolt can tank, never had a Wolt perform well so I got carried away
>>734460839oopsie poopsie
>>734460839Wolt is fine, rn I'm just putting in too much effort into using my entire cast in this exp dump of a chapter. Somehow, Wade is performing not bad.
>>734460839The soldiers on this map have like 12 strength, they hit really hard.
is that spanish fan site down?
>>734460149FE's time goddess. Has a crush on the player character of Heroes, who is (you).
>>734461120war of dragons?https://www.fireemblemwod.com/
>>734461052Make absolutely sure you get marcus to D axes
>>734461052Wolt is... GOOD? This is a first, what the fuck?
>>734456515It's the three Marth clones that make FE representation look bloated. Just make them all Marth skins next game and maybe add a couple more characters as Marth skins like others have said.
>>734461293Since >>734461224 asked so nicely. Marcus is being a real good sport by missing his first hit too, giving extra wexp
>>734461293This is why it's always fun using non-meta units, sometimes they just pop off and make runs interesting.
>>734461293+1 hp+3 str!!+1 skl+2 spd+1 luck= def=resDecent chance this was a rigged wolt.
>>734461441It gets weirder >>734456086>>734461293>Speed and defense went downWhat's going on here?
>>734461409And done, the Steel Axe sure is useful to both avoid exp theft and deal with armors.
>>734442936don't even have to remove them, just do what Hero did and make them alt skins for Marth.
>>734445903>And note how the one non-lord, Robin, is, without a doubt, the best implemented FE rep.sadly Sakurai also seems to hate Robin judging by how he makes him always the weakest FE rep too. what the fuck is that awful run speed and dash attack?
>>734461546Oh thats actually a common thing when you switch translation patches. Check out marcus's stats. They will be lower than usual since >>734455181 used his own rom instead.
>>734461701Robin is a fat slow nerd.
>>734461550Axe bros support, I popped it since I doubt anyone is autistically planning their partners.
>>734457972Sora doesn't use a sword
So who's Roy gonna marry this time?
>>734442332There’s nothing redeeming about Smash “Ultimate”
>>734461824Check out marcus's and roys stat page
>>734461358Celica would've been a great Robin echo fighter whose tomes don't have durability but cost HP to use.
>>734461824S-She still got oneshot? I thought I healed her enough, FUCK
>ackhually he uses a giant key that is shaped exactly like a sword
>>734461993Are you fucking serious dude... It's a soldier.
>>734461993
>>734461993There's no randomness in damage or healing. How do people still get surprised how much damage will be dealt?
>>734461993He beckons.
>>734457972Sora is way more popular and recognizable than your shitty FOTM anime swordfighters.
>>734461993Wait a minute... That explains a lot. Rom's broken, boys. Dieck is supposed to have 6 base def
>>734461993Check the stat page and post it already you faggot. We need to know if the save is corrupted
>>734462145Yeah, I knew something was going to be fucked up when I saw different titles in >>734457026 and >>734459285.
>>734462145>>734451730
>run already scuffedgood job
looks like 'nother *
>FEtards so butthurt about their threads getting nuked they had to create a makeshift Smash thread to continue their “no life” ritualposting.It would be a shame if a Janny discovered this lmao.
Lmao
>>734462123I honestly don't even think this is true at this point
Stop using the old translation patch retards
>>734462246I used the exact sav and rom provided, must have to do with that mystery save file implying corruption
Someone replay chapter 2 with the rom from these threads so there's no version differences between different translations
Just restart the run with the modern translation patch. This shit happened to the second relay too
>>734462354Link to said modern patch?
>>734462324I still feel stupid for >unofficiallygetting Shanna killed, so I'm leaving this to someone else this time. I may pick this up when I'm of a better state of mind, since clearly this is not my day.
>>734442936>With Zelda one offs: "Those characters are not important, only the main trio is" NOT True because we’ve had Sheik for a while.>With FE one offs: "No no, FE has a rotating cast, they are essential" Also NOT true, every protagonist is overshadowed by the newest one.
>>734462294Nobody wants to talk about Smash. Not even you.
>>734461173yeah I keep getting error 403. is it just me?
>>734445874Also with how vast the FE protagonists are it’s ridiculous to have 3 from from the same game (who cares if Awakening saved the franchise, should 3 houses have 3 reps just because the best selling? Nope, I don’t think so), hell, 4 FE characters from the goddamn 3DS altogether.
>>734462315Goddamn, that Lot is absolutely anemic.
>>734462572>should 3 houses have 3 reps just because the best sellingGenuinely yes. Dimitri Claude and Edelgard are the most popular FE characters by far and all deserve to be in
>>734462390https://forums.serenesforest.net/topic/41095-fe6-localization-patch-v121-full-localization-with-new-features-including-support-conversation-reader/https://feuniverse.us/t/fe6-fe7-fe8-plus-enhancement-patch/12603Theres also a QOL patch that adds hp bars and exclaims for effective weapons for a better viewing experience but people endlessly bitched about the qol mod in the fe8 relay. I would just stick with the first patch
>>734446751>Pathetic retards must have their gay relaytionship on an anonymous image board.
>>734462572Chrom getting in just because Sakurai felt bad people got their hopes up during Robin's reveal trailer is still super weird. there was absolutely no justifiable reason to put Chrom in even if i do like Sugita.
>>734462081Funnily enough, the numbers were indeed randomized this time, which is why Shanna died so easily despite the healing. Usually, she'd tank that.
>>734462648Then none of them should get in because FE is not popular overall. Now you see why popularity arguments are dumb.
>>734462648>Dimitri and Edelgard are the most popular FE characters by farFTFY. Clod only gets thrown in as "part of the set" nobody gives a shit about him on his own.
>>734451263>Corrintard cannot comprehend the passage of time properly
>>734462665
MODS! JANNIES! WE GOT INTRUDERS!
>>734462687Chrom deserves to be in over L*cina
>>734462687You wanna know what’s even more stupider and weirder? This bullshit.
>>734462693JUST
>>734462902They also didn't change Robin's Final Smash, so Robin can end up calling Chrom to help him beat up Chrom.
>>734462657Me personally? I would prefer the QOL patch for hp bars because it makes the action easier to follow when going through the screenshots
>>734462648Eh, not Claude. Dimitri and Edelgard would be a good dual unit, though.
>>734462836so what you're saying is "WE'VE GOT TROUBLE"
>>734462648We will truly see if 3H really was lightning in a bottle once Fortune’s Weep comes out and apparently taking place in the same universe complete with the loli green haired bitch all grown up. That will be $70 please
>>734462902Crumb looks bogged here.
>>734463010I wanna FUCK her sister!
>>734463010>>734463010
>>734463010AND MAKE IT DOUBLE
>>734462312If not Sora then Cloud himself since FF7 did revolutionize RPGs, you cannot deny that.
>>734462902>>734462958Outrealms™
>>734443168The biggest problem with the fire emblem characters is that they all look the same.
>>734463094made for lucky pervert threesomes with Setsuna.
>>734463128So what you're saying is that you want Alear for the next smash
>>734463010What happened to the FE art style? Like this shit has no sauce these days.
>filters "IMG_"ahhh feels good man!
>>734463171how the fuck is the guy in a skirt the most masculine looking version?
>>734463128
>>734463119Lego arm lookin mf
>>734442936
>>734463260FE girls are hot
>>734462997Claude did just beat Ike and Roy in the most recent popularity contest. He is probably the #4 biggest character in the series overall, after the other two House leaders + Lyn.
smashie seething is so weird and autistic
>>734463293>I'm not mad, you areKek
>>734463379Considering that fucking Tsubasa won in that same "poll", I'd take it with a grain of salt. Same applies to every CYL, really.
>>734463128They don't, really. It's the protagonists that look similar. Usually swordfags, usually slender/pretty, young, royal. If they went for the deep cuts or the secondary and tertiary characters you would see more variety, but if they did that, the whining would be nuclear, so you can't win.
>>734463473should have put Sigurd and his horse in the game
>>734463442>Had to put male and female versions of the FE characters to make it seem like FE is less diverse in slots than it isAlso, all the bottom have vastly different playstyles
>>734463512They're saving that for when the FE4 remake comes out.
I got one reclass seal do I use it on odin or mozume? I really want a sword master so if I'm going to use it on odin I think I should do it as soon as possible so his stats don't get fucked, but on the other hand I can also turn the ninja guy into a samurai when he joins later. mozume is part of a long term scheme to turn zero into a sniper instead of adventurer, but I think it's ok for him to stay as outlaw for now. people were also saying you should use it on elise to turn her into a wyvern rider, but I couldn't tell if that was trolling or not.
>>734463592You don't need to reclass Mozume for Zero to be able to get Sniper from her, nust make sure he marries her.
>>734463379>Claude did just beat Ike... no, he didn't. He got 400 votes less than Ike did. But Claude was in the Cav division and Ike was in Infantry, so Ike lost to Dimitri while Claude only had to compete against Eirika, Bernadetta, Sigurd, and Marianne.Also this >>734463436If you follow this poll, then Tsubasa, Camilla, and Gullveig are the three most popular "fliers" in the franchise.Gullveig isn't even a flier. She's a cavalry. The poll was stupid.
>>734463592Elise has surprisingly high personal base stats, so she functions competently in Wyvern in the short term, and then can go Malig Knight in the long term to use her monstrous magic stat. That's why people were recommending it (not a joke). It's just anons metafagging. Some of your choices are odd compared to Wyvern Elise but I would encourage you to follow your gut anyway. Do goofy shit and just have fun.
>>734463592I don't suggest Wyvern Elise because it requires specific and abusive favouritism to work. It's simply deciding to scrimblo a character who's perfectly solid in her base class.
>>734463630oh I see the partner seal will default to archer because you can't reclass to villager. is it safe to use it on odin then? these are the characters I want to use more or less, but I think nyx and mozume will be pump and dumps. I also want a 3rd flier but I don't want to use shigure because he looks like a fag so I'm not sure if I should get berka or turn someone else into one. I have it set as my secondary class so I should be able to get anyone there with the friend seal.
>Erm actually, it's only bad because of the lack of weapon variety!Kill all FEfags.
>>734463921should I promote her as soon as possible so she can equip a weapon earlier or am I supposed to suffer through staff only grinding for 20 levels?
>>734464036Anyone who marries Aqua will get to have a flier reclassing child, plus Luna can also reclass to a pegaslut herself. Reclassing Odin is relatively safe if you don't want to reclass anyone else early on.
so this was the fastest a relay died right
The next smash is gonna add the brown guy with the blue turd hair, isn't it?
Spreadsheet time!
>>734464134Hector mode died on chapter 1
>>734464137>The next smashlmao
>>734464102Generally, you want to promote at lv 15 at latest, since you want the good skills from level 5 promoted reasonably early. For Elise, I do suggest promoting her earlier on, since her mag is already overkill and exp in this game scales off internal level anyways.
How reasonable is a fates playthrough with no reclassing?
>>734457972By the time sora came around I was already completely tuned out of this shit
>>734464109yeah I was planning on reclassing luna to pegasus knight so I will have her and camilla, but aqua's son looks like a fag so I'm not sure if I want to use him.
>>734464137Byleth is going to be in Fortune's Weave, so Smash doesn't actually need to do anything besides updating his look.
>>734464220Yeah, the next smash. You'd be naive to think that they're not developing another one right now.
>>734464225This is Fire Emblem we're talking about, none of it is difficult
>>734464065Fire Emblem has literal animal people who transform into actual animals in it. It has dragons, woodcutters-turned-militiamen, pegasus riders, archers, wizards, ballisticians, and a dude who copies his opponent's appearance and abilities like Ditto.They just keep picking the MCs because they're the only ones that are sorta recognizable to the general public. It would be like if every Pokemon rep was a Water starter specifically. The problem is that objective trash like Pokemon is so normalfaggy, it becomes okay to put in shitters like Greninja.
>>734462123Eternal reminder that blyat was only available for a week IN JAPAN ONLY when they shoehorned it into the game and that he was brutally mogged by sans undertale mii reskin on his own debut directFuck you nintendo I wanted Laharl/Prinny
>>734463592>>734463630>>734464036>Mozume>Zero>>734464109>>734464273>Aqua>Luna
>>734464414I look like this, and I talk like this
>>734464409>Disgaea in smashzero fucking chance of that happening
>>734464273It's not limited to Shigure, for instance Kanna would also get to be a pegaslut if Kamui marries Aqua. Just like villager, songstress doesn't get passed around
>>734464225Pretty easy. It's not like Engage where 90% of the classes suck balls and you want everyone in like 3 things. You can actually use Effie in Great Knight or General, it's just suboptimal.
>>734464584is it not better to keep kanna in the exclusive lord class since it can be inherited?
>>734464683You could, I'm just using her as an example. Any child and husband of Aqua gets pegasus as a reclass option.
what level should you get the mother to if you want her kid to not be gimped but also don't want to let her steal too much exp?
>>734464414kill yourself autist
>>734465104>steal expstupid dumb meme
>>734465104You should stop trying to perfectly plan the game on a blind run and just play it. If you're unsatisfied with your choices, you can play it again later.
>>734457857FEbros... we're not a big series....
Alright I just threw on the QOL patch. It doesnt do hp bars or effective weapon warnings or even danger zones in fe6 though so for all intents and purposes its just a translation patch that also lets you start the map from battle preps with the start button.DONT fuck up and use your own rom when I upload the save this time
>>734465256I don't have time to replay 60 hour games. I'll start playing games blind when devs stop filling them with things that make me feel frustrated about being 40 hours in and not liking how something ended up.
>>734465357alear
Taking this faster than last time since I just want to pass the save, so lance will be a lower level
>>734465504Nigger you have OCD. Stop acting like you're so busy when you're here asking useless questions. Play the game. A run is like 20-30 hours if you're quick and not asking retarded questions about things you don't understand yet.
>>734442332My favorite cuck game
my favorite cuck game is 3h
>>734465757Everyone leveled like dogshit. Here comes the wolt grind to save the run
>>734464408Greninja makes sense when you consider that it's actually a soft rep for the Pokemon anime specifically.
>>734465782Run status? Saved
>>734465574my genealogy playthrough was over 80 hours and echoes took 40. is this game really shorter than both of them?
>>734465504no FE takes longer than 20 hours to beat
>>734465830My king
>>734465843If you just play it, yes. Has modern QoL and lots of powerful stuff you can abuse to make it kinda easy even on a blind run (Xander, Camilla, Corrin). Echoes is based on a janky NES game and Genealogy is old as dirt and has a lot of time-wasting stuff in it.But to get through it quick, you have to stop obsessing and just play it. There's no wrong way to play FE and no one on earth manages to do everything in one run, least of all in fucking Conkino.
https://files.catbox.moe/zpt90l.gbahttps://files.catbox.moe/16brif.savFe6 chapter 2. USE THE ROM THIS TIME YOU RETARDED NIGGERS
Complaining about no news on the newest game is weird and autistic.
>>734463473Unironically the secondary FE characters would be way more interesting, not over the main lords, but more interesting than the stupid avatars they keep shoving in.
>>734460715Add Robin to that, since Robin actually brings something unique.The other 4 can leave, infact Sakurai would be doing everyone a favor if they got rid of the blue cancerous bitch.
>>734463580Whoops posted the wrong imagePokémon still mogs the hell out of Fire Emblem
Retarded faggot.
Who is he talking to
734464414Kimono Shitters be like:
>>734467274meant for >>734464414
>>734443168>they really needed to throw in a wildcard like a commander character that orders units around or some shit,Imagine if you had Mark from Blazing Blade and he can summon Eliwood, Hector and Lyn.
Birthday Lissa
>>734469094Pissa
>>734469094Chrom's cocksleeve
>>734469094>>734469350https://soundcloud.com/user34080520/the-pleasure-of-being-chromd-inside
>>734442332how did FE manage to sneak it's way into being so "important" as a franchiseI got nothing against it and I think some of the older games are fine but a game like Smash getting new FE characters every title like they're pokemon feels incredibly overblown for it's actual level of popularity compared to Mario or Zelda
>>734443168complaining about anime swordsmen was always a smokescreen because everyone knows exactly which franchise is always being talked about, nobody will sit there with a straight face and complain about Sephiroth and Cloud just being "more anime swordsmen" just to put FF on the same level as blue-haired sword lord #57834
>Bernadetta freezes, heart racing as her fingers slip beneath the waistband of her pajama pants. She pulls the blanket tighter around herself, trembling like a leaf.>N-no… this is too far! I can’t— I shouldn’t—!>Her breath hitches. The manga still lies open in front of her, the lewd image burned into her mind. A strange warmth pulses low in her stomach, pulling at something deep inside—a curiosity she’s never dared to face.>W-what if someone walks in?! What if they hear me… touching myself like some kind of pervert?!>She glances at the door again—locked. No footsteps outside. Just silence.>...B-but no one cares what Bernie does in here… Right? Everyone forgets about me anyway…>A tiny sob mixes with a shaky breath as she hesitates, caught between fear and that growing need for relief—something soft, secret, just for once.>...Maybe… maybe just a little…>Her hand trembles lower.luv AI
>>734464632>Engage where 90% of the classes suck balls and you want everyone in like 3 thingsWhen are people going to stop parroting this retarded meme that isn't even close to true? Almost every class in Engage has a viable niche. The only class that is really truly worthless is Royal Knight, and you can still argue that it's the only class that can have staves on the cavalry type.
>>734463710Camilla shouldn't have even been in the flier division, her animal motiff is literally "Cow". she should've won cavalry over Clod.
>>734465843If you're not playing on Lunatic Classic, or Hard Classic if you're not great a skill emblem you can easily blow through a run of Fates in under 40 hours. Fates is one of like 2 FE games where I think casual mode actually has a place since Fates was the game whose difficulty caused rewinds to be introduced to the franchise in the first place. Like My last Lunatic Randomizer run of Conquest was 27 hours and that's factoring all the fucking around in bases and planning out match making on the fly because it was a randomizer.
Ririna
>>734470294That's because its true, the vast majority of Engage classes can be ignored, all the Paladin, Great Knight and General variants can be ignored, Sniper, Berserker, and Swordmaster can be ignored, High Priest and Royal Knight aren't real classes and have direct upgrades in the roster. Mage Knight, Bow Knight Lancer and Hero are real classes, but most people ignore them on their first playthrough. Low level optimization of Engage is largely spamming 3 different classes with less than half a other units filling niches in the army as well. An army of 3 Warriors, 3 Fliers, 3 Mages, 2 random gap fillers, 2 Dragons and a Dancer is a very common late game comp for Engage.
which fe has the best ost
>>734445903>spear, or bow character until BylethCorrin is more of a proper lancer/spear user than Byleth.
All the talk of Lugh vs Lilina earlier made me look up a previous run of mine since I remember my Lugh being pretty bad.>1 spd in 12 levels
The "perfect" FE roster in smash would look something like:>sword lord>armored guy>horseback guy>pegasus/wyvern flying guy>mage guy>dragon shapeshifter guyfill in these slots with any character you wish, but that's just how it is
>>734471301You're wrong. Having units on the same class using the same weapon types is incredibly sub-optimal in Engage because of how the weapon economy works, especially with forging in play. I once tried to use 4 tome users on one run and it was a fucking nightmare trying to keep all their weapons up to snuff. Your class selections will be based on a few factors: emblem availability, weapon proficiency, team synergy and obviously stat potential. If you can't tell me why Clanne makes a shitty wyvern, but a decent paladin, then you don't know what you're talking about.
>>734471560Clanne makes a shitty Wyvern or a shitty Paladin because he joins before the early game pinch where deployment count shrinks dramatically and he brings nothing noteworthy to the post pinch environment especially when playing blind, even in a non-blind environment Clanne's one of the worst units even when you consider optimizing for their strengths. He's a super bottom tier unit who not even early favoritism makes him remotely noteworthy like genuinely bottom 3 options to bring out of the early game. He makes middle weights with notable roles like Bouche and Ettie look like premo S tiers like Chloe.
>>734471554I'm gonna keep saying it till it happensByleth's sword/lance/axe normals with Robins magic specials and corrin's dragon final smash on one character will represent essentially 80% of all of fire emblem, then you'd just need a mounted unit
>>734466083This rom isn't romming catbox might've taken it down due to copyright
Why does lilina get so popular while nobody cares about orochi despite them both being high magic units?
>>734472452https://files.catbox.moe/e8vhyt.upsHeres the patchhttps://files.catbox.moe/zpt90l.gbaReuploaded romWhat emulator are you using? I used visual boy advance
Fire Emblem
Fire emblem
>>734471304Conquest and awakening
are we back now?
>>734470542Really, the most obvious candidates for Shadows shouldn't have been in the poll at all. Hell, Dimitri (and Ike) is already in Shadows and they announced Edelgard right when the poll ended. And everyone knows nobody actually wanted Tsubasa and she was just a reddit meme.So the winners should have been something like>Shinon>Fomortiis>Bernadetta or Marianne>GullveigJust having it be lords is lame. They're getting in already. Some are already in!
>>734473658The most obvious nonlord shadows candidate was merrin
>>734472916So it seems
>>734473789No, that's just your weird obsession.The most obvious non-lord was Camilla. Then you just go down the CYL winners for other non-lords, like Lysithea, Marianne, Tiki, and Gullveig. Veronica's already in, so she'd be excluded too.
>>734473658>>734474564>GullveigI'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but she isn't as popular as you think. She's popular specifically as a gacha character
>>734474640I'm going off of the poll in question, dingus. She placed 3rd in the flier category, right behind Camilla. She was also the only OC to be in the top 5 of any category. Even Veronica (who made it into Shadows) didn't get that high.Yes, the poll is biased in that it's using the Heroes playerbase as its voters. But the entire results would be different if that wasn't the case, not just her specific positioning. If you ask to remove her, you're just having a different conversation.
>>734470294>parrotingIt's based on my experience playing the game multiple times and hundreds of hours, not repeating some reddit take. There's no real reason not to run a team exclusively of some combination of Warriors, Mage Knights, Wyverns, Griffins, and Ivy's unique class. You can cope it up about how Paladin actually is super useful because of X/Y/Z, but when you make it trivially possible for every character to be anything, it turns out people quickly figure out what the best shit is and spam it, because Engage does a poor job of differentiating its classes otherwise.
Marriage with Marianne!
>>734470294I think that for every class to have a "niche" they have to be more significantly different so you don't end up with classes like swordmaster and berserker that are pretty much exclusively worse in every aspect than other options.
>>734472801>>734472801your rom didn't work catbox deleted it again but just used my own japanese rom it patched. but when i did that and opened your save it looks like this
Are we finally talking about how awful Engage’s classes were?
>>734477313>classes like swordmasterRun through is a good skill and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
>>734478303We've been talking about that for years now
>>734442332I don't even hate all the echo fighters, that's fine to me. It's specifically byleth and corrin where I say "this is too much"
>>734478284fuck it just start your own relay and upload the save and rom to catbox after you beat ch1
>>734471554So:>Lucina>Edelgard>Lyn>Camilla>Celica>Tikiyour terms are acceptable
>>734478339Very situational and there are way better skills out there. Like getting excited about fucking Shove
Its simply odd that Mario and his varied roster is nearly tied with blue haired anime swordsman, which has more characters than Zelda and Kirby. We can talk about how the Dev time is probably much lower for Marth 4 and Ike 2 but they occupy a good healthy chunk of the roster while also ARR ROOK SAME. You look at bowser and don't immediately go "another Mario guy" or Yoshi and go "another Mario guy" or Wario and go "another Mario guy" but every fire emblem character, even the ones with the different movesets and go "oh, another japanese sword guy"
>>734457972He ended up with one of the most generic movesets too. Arguably one of the worst of the dlc swordies for ultimate. That has more to do with Sakurai being a hack tho, same with the fe lords being so samey.
>>734469056>Marknot my name. The world shall forever be changed because of the great tactician penus
>>734478768I mean you answer your own query. They're not putting in really unique Fire Emblem characters like a manakete or an axe fighter or a dragon rider. They're putting in the equivalent of Dr Mario and Luigi, not a Bowser.
>>734479127Sure, and by the time they add the unique guys like robin or byleth or corrin it's so too late that I'm checked out
>>734469765Ill complain about Sephiroth.Fuck Suckaroth. FF7 getting 2 playables and 3 others repped when the rest of the series gets a fucking chocobo and BM outfit will never not be stupid.And you know its SE being retarded about it too because they always are when it comes to stuff like this with FF.
>>734479214I haven't played Smash in over a decade but I don't even know why people complain about Robin in the first place. Makes the whole "muh anime swordfag" thing seem extra disingenuous. In reality he was one of the more unique characters in the roster back when I played Smash 4 on Wii U.
>>734470902Lewd the Lilina
>>734479413That's just Caeda
>>734479362That's a fair assessment, but when you franchise lump him in with marth, marth 2(red hair), marth 3(girl), Ike 2(also ganondorf is part Ike now), also weve given marth counters to other characters, also byleth and corrin have shared moves with marth, it's such overkill that people tune out. I think Robin is the best of the bunch
>>734448407>GullveigLiterally who
>>734479214No one minded Robin, he/she was fine and was unique and not another derivative of Marth while still showcasing FE.It was adding in Lucina then adding in Chrom when they were shittier versions of better characters (Ultimate Marth is basically a bad gimmick now because of Lucina) then having absolutely unhype stuff in Corrin and Byleth (Byleth has straight up the worst trailer in all smash, its really bad). Lucina was the worst part of her own trailer, and Awakening getting more reps than recorded millions sold is insulting to the rest of the roster.
>>734479413Gonzalez...
>>734479580Snake goddess with time powers from the gachaYes it's as retarded as it sounds
>>734479906>gacha representation in SmashEntire post discarded instantly
>>734480060>>gacha representation in SmashUltimate already does it, bro. Black Knight's voice lines are from Heroes.
>>734480106He's a real character at least
relay doko...
>>734479872Absolutely, and while we can look at Pit, dark pit, and Palutena and say "well yeah, Sakurai did that and Sakurai makes smash" there's this weird hesitance for people to accept that maybe Fremblem has a few too many of the exact same guy, be it aesthetically, mechanically, or spiritually
>That time DMCucks deluded themselves into thinking Dante was going to get announced, only for it to be Byleth insteadFE is based and deserves more reps on that principle alone.
>>734469765People complained about Shulk being an "anime swordsman" back during Sm4sh, shut the FUCK up.
>>734480430Now people just complain that his move-set is gay and annoying
>>734480259I just think rosterfagging is dumb in general. It reminds me of how Heroesfags bitch about CYL etc., it's the same shit, a popularity contest for dimwits. Devs should not listen to players at all when designing games and put in who they want, based on their good judgment as game deveopers. Smash is already a clown show with literal Minecraft characters in it these days, but this isn't seen as a problem because every 10 y/o likes Minecraft. Even though it looks fucking stupid and out of place.
>>734463293Byleth was pretty universally considered a unique gameplay addition (even though I disagree, he's literally just another flavor of swordie with a projectile)
>>734480159Lehran's bitchtoy?
>Anime swordguy with down b counterWow soccer guy, you're so creative.
>>734470702>If you're not playing on Lunatic Classic, or Hard Classic if you're not great a skill emblemI don't think you understand how bad I am at these games
>>734480512>Smash is already a clown show with literal Minecraft characters in it these days, but this isn't seen as a problem because every 10 y/o likes Minecraft. Even though it looks fucking stupid and out of place.Trvke.
>>734480512Speve doesn't fit and Minecraft runs like complete shit on the switch
>>734480601Yes
>>734480806Well, we can have both as assist trophies. As a treat.
if swordmaster is bad would it be good with the original version of astra?
>>734480618
>>734480862Thankfully we won't
>>734480874The original Swordmaster with the original version of Astra wasn't even good with the original version of Astra.
>>734480874it would be good approximately 30% of the time
>>734480929It was good at uhh... clearing the arena
>>734480862Lucina would be a great bimbo hooter's girl once we put some tits on her
>>734480985Whoever drew this has never eaten chicken wings before
>>734480985>once we put some tits on herSo how does that work? Do we romance Chrom to Camilla, or is she using her wages to buy implants?
>>734480929ayra with the move ring was a heat seeking missile
>>734481040magic (plastic surgery)
>>734481153leg ring on anyone without canto is a massive waste in FE4. Really should always be on Sigurd or Seliph.
>>734451730Why arent we just playing with this rom and sav? Why use the new translation at all?
>>734481185You think we'll see Cleo in FW? Will IS confirm it's originally a woman, or will Treehouse try and force their translation error as canon?
>>734481439Nobody uses the old patch and it just causes people to fuck up the save
>>734481758It actually works compared to the other patch that was tried
I think catbox is just having issues. I've been trying to upload my own ROM and it keeps failing.
>>734481952https://litter.catbox.moe/p0zgjiwbbybir69u.gbahttps://litter.catbox.moe/jxc008ev5e7lmprq.savOkay heres a 1 day litterbox link then
>>734481480I don't know but I hope "big tiddy evil woman" becomes a recurring archetype from now on
>>734482134It's been in every game since Awakening.
>>734482195It's not enough. They need to be bigger. Like obnoxiously huge
>>734482134>womanpic not related?
>>734482195More like blazing blade>ursula>selena>petrine>uhh>Clarise>tamamo
>>734482134>becomesIt more or less has been since 4.>Hilda and Ishtar>Brunya>Ursula and Sonia>Selena>Petrine>Ashera>Eremiya>Aversa, Tharja>Camilla>Nuibaba's retcon>Cornelia, Kronya, Edelgard's breast pads, Rhea in heat>Loki, Eir, Thrasir, Thorr, Plumeria, Triandra, Freyja, Nott, Gullveig, Nidhoggr, Baldr, Hodr, Heimdallr, Fimbulvetr>Zephia, Lumera
>>734482390you don't have to project your tranny fetish everywhere
>>734482431But that's what your dogshit lolcalization that you worship says!
>>734482393Tamamo and Selena arent evil
>>734478821Never in a million years would I expect Sora in Smash to have a Down B Counter, fuck Sakurai.
>>734482583Not him, but I'd file Selena under evil.She knows her king is dead, but chooses to work for his controlled zombie corpse anyways. She willingly works as Fomortiis's doll general because of a face she recognizes. She's evil.
does anyone know how to get this fireembemwod site to work again? it was working 2 days ago but now I am getting error 403. I tried flushing my dns cache and accessing through a vpn but it still won't work.
>>734479336Not only that but can we talk about the Series Icons in Smash? FinalFantasyIs just FF which implies other games in the series could potentially be represented, but all we’ve ever gotten is stuff from FF7 specifically, wouldn’t it have made more sense the Meteor from the FF7 logo instead of just two capitalized Fs?Also we gotta address the Shadow Dragon in the room, Fire Emblem’s series icon being a generic sword tells you everything you need to know about this soulless franchise. They should’ve used the Fire Emblem itself. Shield of Seals.
>>734465104Parent stat gains barely affect the children's bases at all. Like, you're talking maybe one point more of magic from getting them 10 extra levels - it's not even worth mentioning.
>>734483149>They should’ve used the Fire Emblem itself. Shield of SealsThat's only a thing in awakening though isn't it?
>>734479524Smash has a Counter Problem in general. Even fucking Princess Peach has had a counter since Melee.
>>734483620>That's only a thing in awakening though isn't it?
>>734482526take your meds bro
>>734479872>Byleth has straight up the worst trailer in all smash, its really bad.It’s truly amazing how they managed to recreate the Corrin trailer, reusing in-game graphics and all to make a ridiculous hodgepodge of nonsense. And with a cheesy cringey character describing what is going on. Same shit even happened for Pyra and Mythra’s trailer. I’ll give Min Min’s trailer credit for not having any lines of dialogue except for funny Captain Falcon grunting and eating noises.
>>734480106Unfortunately there’s a FEH song in Ultimate https://youtu.be/0yzwdToFDC8
>>734447341>Marth>LucinaRoy Corrin Byleth and add Tiki, a villain or some furry
>>734480259I could see us getting Bandana Waddle Dee as a new fighter & then Noir Dedede would be pretty similar to how Palutena & Dark Pit got in right after Sakurai made Uprising. I could see it happening again.
>>734442332What are the most broken spirits form dlc?Kuraidon looks strong.
>>734483247I've seen a lot of posts push this narrative and I decided to test the theory.On the top is my chapter 10 save file with Odin and Elise trained to level 11, slightly over levelled, nothing too bad though.On the bottom I swapped them out for Base join time Odin and Elise, I even heart sealed Elise to Wyvern to keep the consistency.Just having the parents trained as normal has yielded me;+1 Str/Skill/Luck/Def/Res+2 MagI would say it affects the kids quite a bit to be on par or just over the level of the map you are on.
>>734484547The point is as long as they aren't literally base level it has little impact. It's not worth paying attention to because anyone you've used enough to get an S rank support with will definitely have enough levels to have reached the shit scaling of the formula. Once you get the initial +2 which happens very quickly, further levels have an extremely weak effect.
>>734450875Nah get out of here with that bullshit, they went out of their way to start including byleth before TH even released when the launch was closer to the DLC release than arms/xenoblade 2 were to the base which was apparently too late for springman/rex/pyra. This was after sakurai publicly stated there were too many fire emblem characters near the end of 4's life btw.
>>734461898>still have distinct silhouettes
>>734442332fire emblem le bad updoots to le left
>>734483737Changing narratives again retarded FE bab?
>>734484547It's not a "narrative," the stat inheritance formula is known and it scales badly. People would rather pump and dump certain characters than obsess over a half a tonic's worth of stats. The amount of effort to train Laslow for most of the game for 2-3 extra stats, maximum, can't realistically be justified. You'd be better off investing that exp into mainstays and carries.
>>734479362They're selective over whether a franchise being "repetitive" is acceptable. FE is bad for being all Marth clones and other bishonens with swords, but then they bitch about Pokemon NOT just being fully evolved starters over and over.
>>734484547>I even heart sealed Elise to Wyvern to keep the consistencyI hope you know that all this does is change her class bases. Personal stats are used in the inheritance formula, so it has no effect.
>>734485106It is literally a popularity contest. Slopmon is a-ok being overrepresented because Gamefreak sharts out a low-effort buggy rehash running at 15 FPS every year, and Poke-adults the world over slurp it up like so much golden cum.
>>734484952Only if you’re a closeted Weeb
>>734485008Laslow is good though.Marry him to Selena and friend him with Keaton to get Rally Speed/Skill/Strength and keep him as a Flying Rallybot.
>>734485106How well represented IS Pokémon in Smash? We never really talk about this, not just the characters but Stages, Pokéballs, etc.https://youtu.be/ao15rU2U0Us
>>734485317It doesn't take being a weebfag to notice the different poses.
Tikichads report in!
>>734461898>>734484952What's funny to me is that Roy now wears bell-bottoms (even in official FE media) thanks to what can only be described as "visual telephone." The Elibe artist just drew boots weird and bottom-heavy like that - you can see it in multiple character concept art e.g. Cath, Zephiel, Lance - but it's been re-interpreted as flared pants for Roy.
>>734484972no, it's just you making some weird schizo headcanon that anyone who posts a 3H character automtically agrees with the trannylation
Bro reeks of denial but its okay you can like your troon, no one will shame you unless you want to spam kimono-sama.
>>734485456>doing all that shit when you can just logbook or invade castles to buy the skills
>>734442936I wouldn't mind if they diversified and added characters that represent Fire Emblems history AS A WHOLE instead of just shilling whatever new characters there are. And yes I know Roy was in Melee to shill the upcoming FE GBA game but I wish they would try to keep a balance of retro and modern characters instead of exclusively adding modern characters
>>734485456He's also the easiest Sol Ninja to build in the game, with the better merc skills instead of fighter skills to boot.
>>734485931>Just cheat broConqueers everyone
sommie abused me
>>734486027Except his daughter is better than him at that in literally every way but I guess you can cope with that if you're gay for him
>Just grind 99 turns 3H-rts everyone
>>734486027He's harder than shura by the fact that you actually have to use laslow to promoted level 5 at the least for that
>>734484191Yeah, I imagine Sakurai would put more Heroes stuff in if he made another Smash. Might just be Spirits of various characters. Maybe an assist trophy. Definitely some music.
I hope they add Robins child Morgan to smash just to see anti-FE fats seethe. Also F!Morgan is cute
>>7344861183h game overs you on any map if you go to turn 99>>734485931>online services in modern fatesAnon i have some bad news about the 3ds...
>>734486080She takes more effort to get since she either has to be in a level deficit compared to Lasward for the Sol race or has to get Sol from him (aka is still lagging behind). Also, there's nothing stopping you from using both, Sol Ninjas are good.
>>734486118That's Radianfags, newfriendThey've spent over 450 turns on one map
Mangs just uploaded his FE5 Retrospective video!
>>734442936It was pure jealousy
>>734486148They both need several promoted levels for the skill as well as two seals. The difference is that Lasward joins several chapters earlier.
>>734486203>level deficitYou do realize offspring seals exist, right? In fact it's even easier because you don't need to train her in hero for as long or potentially at all. And sol ninjas are not as epic as you pretend for a low-stat shitter like Laslow to be valuable.
>>734486248This
>>734486203You can pop soleli on chapter 27 even if laslow is level 12 unpromoted, and then instantly offspring seal her to level 18 promoted for sol axe breaker and whatever skill she gets from her mother what are you even talking about?
I've never seen a player who uses JP names express an intelligent thought on Fates gameplay or writing.
>>734486391>>734486408>You can purposefully not train Lasward at all for at least four maps where you deploy him so that Soleil gets Sol firstThat's just purposefully sabotaging him to undermine his lower investment. Say what you will about him gameplay wise, but he is the lowest investment Sol Ninja in the game.
>>734486629You don't need to drag along dead-weight for half the game and she'll still be statistically way better. How is that not easier?
>>734486709I'd switch a few around, but not the worst tier list desu
>>734486709>Nyx and Peri in F/E TierWhy do you hate cute girls
>>734486709All these tier lists always underrate velouria when she is one of the best child units in the game. All ophelia has going for her is the lad vantage build and shes always rated amongst the best of the game for some reason. Belka that high is insane too, all she does is pass classes around because her stats are dogwater
>>734486709Midori is not that bad. Her paralogue is very valuable for several reasons and as long as you give her a mother with good strength she's pretty damn good.
>>734486709Isn't this just the Zoran-Mekkah list? Silas is a gigantic meme and Nyx-F is an even worse meme, but better than anything this shithole or reddit can come up with I suppose.
>>734486827Because others do their jobs better. They're only good for sucking dick
>>734486709>Laslow that high when he's just a backpack to give Xander Sol and shuriken breaker and occasionally produce soleli
>>734486179Based
>>734486890Velouria is just shit bro.
>>734486709I'd honestly put Camilla a tier above S, she is basically the Seth of CQ despite it being a harder game.
>>734487135I use Wendy and I also always use whoever the exclusive pirate unit is
>>734486203>>734486326>Lasward
Lilina fags just spent an entire day being laughed at and they're already coming back for more
>>734487191Nigga she is tippy-top of S despite arguably being inferior to Corrin across a run and less irreplaceable than Azura, you don't have to jill her off this hard, she's good and everyone admits it
>>734486179Good, so we can get more art of Morgan smashing his mother
>>734487135>chadHe gets you like, 1 halberd, some gold, a goddess icon, a silver lance, a killer axe. After chapter 7 you can buy infinite 5 use chest keys so theres nothing he can get you anymore than you couldnt get with chest keys. How could he possibly be in the same tier as Miledy?
>>734487135>Juno in okay while Dayan is in why even botherI get that people hate Sacae, but Juno is shit while Dayan is a solid af nomad who's valuable in quite a few maps.
>>734486530That's because it's all just one guy who is deeply retarded doing it.
>>734443168Link belongs in the game, the other anime swordsman don’t. Marth and Roy were gay, but it was only 2 so it was forgivable, same with Marth and Ike in Brawl. Now every fight involves anime twinks, it’s sad.
>>734487339Tiki x Daughter Morgan
ive never seen a fire emblem 7 or smash ultimate tier list I agree with
>>734487362He's also strictly worse than Astolfo so I'm guessing it's just bait
>>734486827There are cuter girls in Nohr, honestly.
>>734487296>arguably being inferior to Corrin Wrong, she does everything better than him and with no investment, no matter his class, pairing or anything.>less irreplaceable than AzuraI'd rather not have Azura than not have Camilla, and that's saying something. The one thing better than dancing is a unit who stomps the game in half in every way conceivable, which is what Camilla is.>she's good and everyone admits itAnd yet people still manage to underrate her, she's the best unit in the game by a longshot.
>>734487528You are overrating Camilla unironically. She is literally just a prepromote with good stats - there is not a single thing she does that can't be substituted at the cost of a slightly higher turn count. It's not even hard to solo the game in less time with somebody like Odin or Nyx post Ch. 10, you should try it sometime and realize Camilla is just an efficiency booster, not at all unique or irreplaceable. Unlike Corrin and Azura who offer genuinely unique utility that can't be substituted.
>>734487447You will agree with this one
>>734487817>Serra and Nino that lowabysmal dogshit
>>734487950you should be happy I even placed nino above E
>>734487817I don't respect any FE7 tier list that doesn't put Matthew in the top tier. His importance for a good run is way too high for him to deserve anything less.
>>734487817nino should be S
>>734488026You can tell people don't play ranked if they don't put Matthew in the top three tiers.
>>734487817>The pirate in D tier tooawful list
>>734487817Rath is genuinely useless dogshit. Idk why people think hes useful like the mage trio of farina
>>734488094Even in the most casual of runs, Matthew's importance cannot be understated. The simple act of promoting a lot of your units is locked behind him.
>>734487817Good list!
>>734488261He's the best bow user, so he gets a lot of dibs on good stuff like the Brave Bow that no one else is using. He also has a horse, which is good.
>>734488423Your opinions are garbage like your tastes.
>>734488423the only guy here with good taste
>>734487726>Other units can maybe do a fraction of what Camilla does with scrimbloingCamilla is so far ahead that it's unreal, every other unit is playing catchup with the entirety of their abilities.
>>734487817Geitz is dogshit because he requires you to extensively train units placed far below him lol
>>734487817>Eligood this lowShit list
>>734488696I'm not sure if you realize this, but Wyvern!Selena is competitive Camilla replacement. No unit that can be replaced by Selena by ~Ch. 17-18 is THAT far ahead of anybody. She's a very strong unit and deserve an S-placement, but she is not in a tier unto itself. Camillafags are so fucking cringe.
>>734442936FE is completely over-represented, nobody even cares about the series when Smash isn't shilling it, it's a C-tier nintendo franchise.
>>734488843>Wyvern!Selena is competitive Camilla replacementLol, lmao even.
>>734488918Compare their stat line (lolI know you've never looked at an averages comparison. You'd realize stats are not at a premium in Fates, it's class sets that are king.
>>734488918Fact check true, mainly because Selena is at 20/1 which gives her a stat advantage compared to base camilla, whose internal level is comparatively lower at base.
>>734489049>Worse stats everywhere>Not possible on ch10>Need a friendship or marriage with one of at most three units just to begin this scrimbloing>Far worse personal skill>Reclass doesn't give her strongass 1-2 rangeTop kek
I need to go batk to play Fire Emblem 3 Houses. I wish the game was for PC so I could get a mod to have a romance with that faggot's teenage sister from church.
>>734489198Your mouth is surgically attached to Camilla's purple anus, so there is no convincing you. But to get the facts straight, Selena is competitive with Camilla's bases at 18-19/1 Wyvern Lord. She actually has superior bulk and skill on top of it, but worse resistance (who cares). Her magic is shit but so is Camilla's without a spirit dust dump. Friendship with Beruka or Camilla takes only 5 maps, trivial.Again, Camilla is more replacable than Azura and Corrin, who do totally unique things. Just a fact. Whether she is "worse" is debatable but she certainly isn't significantly better if you know what you're talking about.
>>734489418>Friendship with Beruka or Camilla takes only 5 maps, trivial.It takes 3 maps, actually. Selena has a fast support with those 2 so only 9 support points are needed to reach A.
>>734488949PoV: you're a choir boy and the queen-apostle asked to see you.
>>734489504Isn't it 4, then? 3 seems too few. I erred on the side of more than less, without checking, because I know that dumb-o will find anything weak point he can to discount an argument.
>>734489418>Scrimbloing and overleveling so hard into a worse class just to have slightly better stats than base CamillaYou're hilarious, bro. The funniest part is that no amount of scrimbloing can ever replace Camilla on ch10 no matter what, so you have to pretend that this chapter doesn't exist.
>>7344895963 points per map and 9 needed to reach A. Once you reach A, you automatically get A+. Only S requires additional points.
>>734489602Chapter 10 is a defense map that Camilla isn't even available in from Turn 1, you nitwit. Only people like you overrate it. You can leave Camilla at deployment and clear it just as fast, and you'll even give the exp to units who need it more.
>>734489685>J-just make it harder on yourself!Spoken like a true scrimblofag. Btw, before Selena even gets to be a wyvern, Camilla is both stomping the game and making it easier for your other units to perform.
>tfw never bothered trying to minmax friendship sealsI feel like my mental state is better because of it.
Gameplayfags. Play the relay
>>734489852Chapter 10 is not hard. You probably think Camilla because you find it very hard. 11 is easy, 12 is easy, 13 is easy, 14 is easy. The entire early-midgame after Camilla is at the peak of her power is trivial and full of weak cannon fodder to train on. 10 is the hump and even it isn't very bad if you go into with a plan other than "duhh let Camilla carry me."Glad we could clear this up.
>>734489890It's usually just a for-fun thing because I like using friendships to pass down weird skills to the kids.
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>>734489994>It's usually just a for-fun thingReally? Because looking at the last like 40 posts, it doesn't seem like anyone is having fun.
I can't believe Laslow is better than Camilla
>>734490138I always have fun with Conkino
>>734489965>Chapter 10 is not hardThanks to Camilla it isn't, otherwise you'd need to put effort to get all the side objectives while guarding your position, and you'd have to train less units for the sake of holding your position. That dual club is especially nice, since you have Camilla who can use it at base to stomp sword users, unlike some scrimblo who you'd have to train up from E rank in axes just to use anything else than bronze.
>>734490138Some fags get so deep into spreadsheets that they forget to actually play the game, but it's still fun.
>>734490248It really is not hard at all. It's a volume game, all it knows how to do is throw high volume-low power at you. If you prepare the appropriate response to it beforehand (e.g. Paladin Jakob, Silas, GK Effie, Wyvern Elise), it's actually trivial. It's as hard as you let it be. Camilla is nice and free but not essential to a clean clear.
>bump limitWill the next thread be a continuation of the Camilla debate, or will they manage to get it out of their systems before this one ends?
ok but how do I get bowbreaker on camilla so she doesn't have to worry about getting countered?
>>734490374>Paladin JakobThat meme died a while ago.>Early Promote EffieEffie hasn't been a Knight or in the knight tree since 2020, she's a Kinshi Knight enjoyer now.
>>734490374>It's not hard>Which is why I need several scrimblo responses to compensate for something that Camilla does on her own but betterKek,
>>734490470I personally keep conversations to one thread, it's far too autistic to keep it going beyond that.
Camillas feet
>>734490504For me, it's meido Elfie. Kinshi through Mozume is a cool reclass, though
>>734490504Buddy, you will still use Paladin Jakob if you are running Jakob. Effie can't be in Shitshi Knight by this point (bad class anyway) even if you wanted her to be. The way you play this map is you promote and reclass a couple units on your end, and then have Camilla fill out the empty space. But you can realistically compensate for her entirely with some basic planning.>>734490510you are a moron
>>734490650Maid is an excellent class option for her, it is just a shame Troubador is the only path to it.>>734490701We get it, you were okay at Conquest back in 2017
>>734490701>Y-you're dumb!I accept your concession
>>734490825No I'm serious. Kinshi Knight is a crap class with shit stats, and a cope for units like Effie and Mozu. It's not good. Being better than bad is not good. Paladin Jakob can actually still do something genuinely useful earlygame, even if it's never been my preference.
>>734490565Fair.Have a morning wife.
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>>734490825Thankfully mag is mostly irrelevant for using staves, but it still sucks to lose a good fighter for a low staff rank healer.
>>734491027Thanks, that's some pretty good art
>>734490650>Elfie>Mozume
The funniest part about the Wyvern Selena cope is that you either have to use Corrin's contested marriage for it specifically, Beruka who's not all that good and also contested for marriage since other characters also want her wyvern fast, or the best option with Camilla, ironically. Even to scrimblo Selena, Camilla carries.
>>734492201>Why do you fags do this thing where you pretend all units are being exhausted for all purposes at all moments in time? You named 3 options, one of which is fucking Beruka (who cares about her), and then acted like none of them are any good. Nigger.
>>734492201I don't think he was saying she's as good as Camilla, just that Camilla isn't some unmatched stat monster if an ordinary gen 1 non-royal can match her stats with a little effort.
>>734492201What are you talking about bro? You can support multiple characters each chapter. You get like 10 paralogues too to work out supports
>>734492302>with a little effortA lot of effort where she'll still be worse than base Camilla. It's like saying that Seth isn't that good because Franz can catch up with favouritism.
>>734492464>A lot of effort>Pair her up with Camilla or Beruka for 3 maps and reclass to wyvern
