Name a worse fall offbesides this retarded fucking capcha
>>734515215i know it was devastating but please anon
qrd?
>>734515215>(you)
>>734515215Easy.
>>734517053So, get this. For ten fucking years, components required 80% of their quality in skill. And then Styg, being the joyless Serbian fuck that he is, decides he doesn't like everyone running around with high tier equipment in the final third of the game. So he ups the requirement to 112% This isn't even getting into him nerfing the weakest and most spread out builds in the game while leaving grug mind AR or sniper or even crossbow untouched
>>734517352>>734517352Ooooooooh, that is fucking brutal. I remember the old tile system that worked. And now I have no fucking idea what the hell they were trying to do here.
>>734517156I wanted to do right by you, Carnifex. But that Serbian fuck crossed the last line.
>>734517845"balance patches" for single player games are cancer and should be shunned
>>734517947I was okay about the psi update. Yeah, it was kind of absurd. But he was going to add new psi abilities so people would use more than just the usual ones.And then he proceeded to add the most nothing abilities ever after limiting you to just 8-9. The niche ones he wanted you to use more became ones you never fucking used because why would you? And he added nothing for half a decade.
>>>/vrpg/3940843
>can't roll back to last patch>only the legacy version is up>doesn't work with heavy dutyIs this not theft?
>>734517883I get the itch to play every few years only to find out they gutted and ruined another system. I’ve been playing since launch and am so gaslit that I don’t know if I’m misremembering things or imagining systems that never existed.
>>734519089stellaris was so fun tooi remember getting a corner of the galaxy all to myself with a fallen empire neighborwhen i got strong enough, i took over their shit and went from the strongest empire in the galaxy to the undisputed master
>>734518598stir up enough of a shit storm and you might get a refund.some autist will eventually cobble together a mod that unfucks it. probably.
>>734517352>>734517883>>734519089I never played old Stellaris, my experience with it was limited to pirating it around the time espionage became a thing and again just recently to see if they ever made it not suck (they didn't)Stellaris is so cringe because it's just hundreds of dogshit irrelevant systems piled on top of eachother>Espionage Who cares>PoliticsWho cares>Unity in generalWho FUCKING caresThere's so many instances of this and it pisses me off so much because their retarded audience is fine with dozens and dozens of half baked shitty systems with no depth or relevance in the slightest because everyone is fine with just LARPing some single player experience full of illusions of choice against braindead bots instead of any having literally any standards of design
>>734519465>some autist will eventually cobble together a mod that unfucks it. probably.God, I hope so. Old crafting, old psi, and all the new shit that is actually good instead of just a fucking nerf or another needless change would be so nice.
>>734519570They just kept adding stupid cosmetic shit too.
>>734518598Thank fucking God I always hold onto each update when it comes out on GoG
>>734515215I'm gonna buy this game btw. You've convinced me with the 8 threads you've made in the space of 2 days
>>734520665oh yeahyou can roll back on to any version you want on there
>>734515215I literally get filtered by the deep caverns every time. It's like everything good about the game is just suddenly gone. Also it is clearly going for a spoopy "hidden / almost nobody has seen this" vibe but it's just lame as fuck. Oh no - slugs, weird plant monster things and cthulhu from Temu.Also when you get to ask what the dumb cube even does>Errrm acktually I can't explain it to a human because my IQ is 500 rick n' morty leddit. Errrm yea technically it's a battery or something lol that part hasn't been written yet.
>>734517947t. shitter
>>734519465>some autist will eventually cobble together a mod that unfucks itStyg is a retarded boomer so he obfuscated the code because he hates mods. It's an XNA game, so modding would already be easy as fuck (Mono/C# can easily be decompiled to be human-readable, patched, and recompiled since it's IL).Apparently he has lightened up a bit around them recently, tho.
>>734517883>the old tile system that worked‘old good new bad’ retards are so insufferable
high mobility getting gutted has ensured i won't be doing another playthrough. wish I could get a refund but I have 250 hours
>>734521561>>734521618>>>/vrpg/3940802>>>/vrpg/3940815>>>/vrpg/3940819
So now is a bad time to get into the game?
>>734521675>Styg just patched the game to fix an unresolved exploit that you were abusing
>>734521725>psi-nerf eraFucked>this eraGIGAFUCKED
>>734521725no. the people complaining have completed the game dozens of times over the course of 10 years, and want to play on the highest difficulty but without the game being difficult. they are full spectrum warriors
>>734517845did I get punished for waiting to play this game..
>>734521491It's a battery to power a massive coolant system near the center of the earth.Dude tells you as much>>734521651hahahahahaoh godi have over 3k>>734521725the worst>>734521832>>734521927pretty much
>>734521870It being difficult was never the problemHim changing things for being "broken" while leaving actual absurd low effort minimum builds untouched was.>>734518157>>734517845Melee was the most effort-intensive and self-gimping style build anyone could've made. Your only resistance bypass was expose weakness. And now it has a longer cooldown, doesn't work on the one enemy you'd want to use it against, and you can't hit as many times if you went all in on dex because fuck you
>>734518598>>can't roll back to last patchTakes 1 minute of copy pastehttps://steamdb.info/app/250520/depots/https://steamdb.info/depot/250521/manifests/steam://open/consoledownload_depot appID depotID manifestIDSuch asdownload_depot 250520 250521 2191525044638884374After download finishes steam console tells you which folder the old files are in to use
This is why I don't like games being constantly updated. I beat this game 3 times, pre psi nerf, after psi nerf and after heavy duty. And now the game has changed again, so it feels like I didn't really beat it.
>>734522124>Him changing things for being "broken" while leaving actual absurd low effort minimum builds untouched was.why is everyone seething about balance being inherently a bad thing for singleplayer then
>>734522328READ
>>734522328it's over.
>>734517156Bro showed up unarmed to a gunfight
>>734523524...altman?
>>734523573No but I do like some of his meme builds
>fully plan out an entire build before you start the game and stick to it 100% or get skullfucked in the late game>minmaxing crafting autism on top of thisUnderrail was never good. The most overrated CRPG on /v/ by a country mile. It's not even as good as the 30-year-old games it tries to emulate.
>>734517883the tile system was absolute dogshit what the fuck are you talking about?t. bought stellaris on release
>>734523689nonsense>>734523691replacing it with districts and auto-assigning you have no control of on top of limiting everyone to hyperlanes was a good idea to you?
>>734523689you didn't play the game
>>734523689underrail is great. internet gaylords are the problem
>>734523827discord trannies, you mean
Why did the dev have to be an anti-modding s*rb? Some monkey's paw shit.
I kneel
>>734523889i mean, look at his idea of "balance">>734523991underrail makes so much sense when you watch a serbian film
>>734524238what's "your" "idea" of "balance"
>>734524656Not going out of my way to destroy fan-favorite builds that make the game "too easy" because I'm an autistic serb who wants this to be le Dark Souls of CRPGs or some shit.
>balance changes only affect dominated cuckslol lmao
>>734524656not changing what i don't like just because i don't like how someone uses it
>>734524876anon >>734517845
>>734524876No, actually. The difficulty of dominating was just enemies hitting harder and having more health. The changes Styg made ensures melee fags will have to create a weapon specifically to circumvent the ridiculous mechanical resistance of enemies now that Expose Weakness is practically useless. And he just nerfed crafting too
Styg evokes the Joe Biden in me.>I was SUGGESTING we bomb Belgrade.>I was SUGGESTING we send American pilots in and blow up all the bridges on the Drinahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vei_18YcC6E
South gate station ost... homehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krq6DBmrYZE
>>734517845Crafting had been gradually getting easier and easier with updates so increasing the requirements isn't that out there.At launch the only way to boost crafting skills were the house bonuses and junkyard surprise giving +int. Now we have engineer suit, and technomedic exoskeleton, and remote control glove, and boning knife, and Tchort belts, and underrpie/Jon's special, and SGS tattoo. And an extra five levels for another 200 skill points. And some other items that boost other skills that can free up points if you need more crafting. It's gotten so much easier to make everything. The game needed a change.
>>734525526wow maybe instead of raising the requirements HE SHOUlDN'T HAVE FUCKING GIVEN SO MANY YOU GODDAMN FUCKING MORON
>>734525554Yeah, maybe, but it's too late for that now, isn't it? He can't just delete all that shit from the game.
>>734525526>massive wealth investment>RNG>DLC>DLC again>finally something (still needs 6 int)>literally nothing bio bonus>the only actual thing even approaching a point>meh>RNG>>734525634...Holy fuck, you're retarded
>>734524767what if they do make the game too easy
Only the electro skill bonus matters out of all the ones listed. Bio has such a low and early softcap. You can only find the endgame bio ingredients in the literal last area of the game
Reminder basic bitch minimal investment ass AR can still do this to the final bosshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtnZ7Qg9rJQ
>>734525815Don't use them. This concept is lost on the malformed s*rbian mind.
>>734525880looks like melee as a whole needs to incur 400% of mechanical resistance
>>734525880Seriouslyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COGvw5GXGfMOf all fucking builds, why melee?
>>734525880>>734525951>survival instincts, all in, glass cannon buildwow so original
>>734526006now that he's nerfed tincan crafting, that's all he'll be seeing
>>734525901but I want to use them
>>734517845>How come my mentally challenged low int character is struggling building pocket nuclear reactor out of scraps and mushrooms? Curse you Styg-sama and your vile Serbian machinations!Pathetic. Here, this is how it's done, plonker: 12 int, barely any investment into crafting. Energy chads can't stop winning. Also, I don't get what you are upset about. There is barely any actual difference in stats between 150 and 170 quality parts where the jump in requirements spikes. It feels rewarding and natural getting some kind of reward for improving intelligence, no matter how miniscule it is.
Never played before now, is psy good for a first time or should I ignore it? I kind of want to use it.
>>734526558yeah it's fun
>>734526513>There is barely any actual difference in stats between 150 and 170 quality parts where the jump in requirements spikes. It feels rewarding and natural getting some kind of reward for improving intelligence, no matter how miniscule it is.You are a beaten fucking housewife, holy shit
>>734526558If only you knew how fun old psi was.
>>734526671easy mode is still available for you
>>734526725yeah, it's called AR tincanor at least ar semi tincan now
real easy mode is fusion cannon
>>734526513oh wowyou mean to tell me if you heavily invest in the stat behind crafting skills the crafting skills go absurdly high?????????
>>734526626>>734526842I'm feeling vindicated to be proven that those who are crying about the crafting scaling update are actual mouth-drooling retards with zero arguments. It's really amusing watching you squirm :)
>>734527172
I remember praising Styg in 2015 for not fucking with the balance much, but he became even more obessesed than SawyerI blame discord troons
stealth sniper is the most kino build
>>734526265those faggots made him ruin psi
>>734526558Play on legacy with pre-fucked psi if you want to experience psi in its full glory. It was legit the most fun magic system i've ever seen in a CRPG before the idiot dev raped it and sucked all the fun into it to turn into yet another flavour of instagibbing crit builds.
I checked some things and if you use 145 quality tungsten you can hit 93% mech DR (not 95% but I think I could hit that with higher quality padding, and it's close enough anyway) for 193 mechanics requirement. 193 is a lot but it's not impossible. Even a 3 int guy can hit that as long as you stack house bonus+Jon's special+hypercerebrix, and it only needs level 29 so not even max level. If your guy isn't a dumbass you can get that level lower too of course. So the nerf didn't make it impossible, it just meant you have to spend more skill points on it. Which is bad but not that bad.
>>734515215why cant this retard move on, game already finished, just unlock modding and leave difficulty autists to mods
>>734527425>only needs level 29 so not even max level.ah yesa level below the max level
>>734527616I mean if you're going with 3 int you shouldn't expect to be good at crafting. Imagine playing with 3 per and trying to use guns and being like why am I missing all the time??? You can do the int equivalent of that and it still actually works. You just need to be really high level.
maybe you shouldn't make Int a dumpstat and this wouldn't be an issue?
>>734527787he added two new featsboth aren't very reasonable, costing a lot of stat points and a featmeanwhile, con remains the premier dump stat
>even with crafting nerf, a retard can still make endgame gearthen what was the point of it?WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT?!
>>734528072Tedium.It's the reason he gave as to why he turned psi into arcanist casters from pathfinder.So it would be as tedious as the other classes
Reminder this is what the long awaited sequel is going to be likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlawf5Qtsjg
>He claims he's interested in fair balancing and difficulty but refuses to nerf the truly broken stuff in the game (bear traps, caltrops, grenades...) and instead nerfs everything a select group of users in his forum/discord whine about (in a 10 years old singleplayer game no less!) because he can't live without the glazing and allure of being incensed as a "hardcore" game developer by a select couple of people he also recently sent here to rebalance the falling review ratingsFuck me, some of these are just savage
>>734517845Styg would rather do this than add a "sort by weight/value" option to your inventory btw
>>734530517kekpainfully true
>>734528579its not even a hard game, just tedious.
>>734528579why bring up that it's single player
>>734532146anon...
>>734533127yes anon
>>734531915that's what makes it worse
but why tho
An underrated aspect of this game was how the caves, underpasses, and rail were all connected to each other
