>install Morrowind>people tell me I should roleplay and create my own fun>decide to create a female dunmer alchemist, who is morally dubious and funds her high-fashion lifestyle by lending her talents to the bad guys>she is also charismatic, good at speechcraft, bartering, a non-combatant>land in Seyda Neen>refuse to help the local thugs shake down the local Elves (my people!) for tax money>hear this dump is a hub for smugglers>go into the smuggler's den 20 meters from town to join their operations or at least do quests for them to gain reputation>these psychopaths attack a defenseless, beautiful dunmer woman on sight>can't yield to them, can't explain I want to help them, even theoretically calming them down with a scroll wouldn't unlock any interesting dialogue options>if you kill them, you can't even do something "evil" like sell their slaves, you can only free them>can't even join the Camonna Tong either, they tell me to kill myself, even If I spam admire to level speechcraft to 100 and leave their disposition at max after talking to themAh yes. "Roleplay"
this thread again
>>734655925everyday till you like it
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AGP thread?
>>734655925This thread again. On this board as well. Reporting will do nothing. Have fun.
>>734655697>can't even join the Camonna Tong eitherFucking outlanders man
so it's gotten to the point some autist's personality is now how much he hates people enjoying a game he doesn't have to play huh
>>734657173this is a zoomer's first instinct instead of trying to engage with the game in a real way or just playing something he does like
This fricking thread again. On this fricking board as well. I can't just hide it or filter it, I must report it.Morrowind is so good man. Xenophobic crime syndicate? Maaan, just like Chinese triads fr fr no cap.
Why are homosexuals so entwined with narcissism?
>>734655697>Why cant i play as a police officer in gta?>Why cant i play as a super mutant in fallout?>Why cant i play as a normal human in vtm?This is you. A retarded tranny faggot. Ho back to skyrim with your coomer mods and never come back.
>>734655697>can't yield to themCharm spell too hard to learn for your retard character's brain?
they removed the roleplaying systems instead of improving them so it could sell on the xbox
pedantic fags always say they want to do some pie-in-the-sky fucking pacifist merchant playthrough of an RPG or whatever but that would be fun for about 20 minutes
>>734655697Fuck off N'wah, Vvardenfell's full
>>734656860>>734658557Imagine looking at her beautiful face and calling her a nigger for not having a throat-cancer voice.>>734658345Except Todd promised me a real economy, where supply and demand changes the price of good. I want to play as a second Maven Black-Briar and have a business empire. Why do people hate on me in this thread so much for wanting to roleplay?
>>734658685You don't belong in Vvardenfell, you probably think Almalexia is a learning disability, s'wit. Go back to Rifton.
>>734658345>some pie-in-the-sky fucking pacifist merchant playthrough of an RPG or whateverIt's actually possible in Kenshi of all games.
>>734658685>I want skyrim crap that isn't even in skyrim to be in this game from 2001>why won't people take me seriously??I couldn't even imagine being able to automatically recall a skyrim character's name, because none of the NPCs are notable in any way other than just being therebut go ahead and tell how memorable lydia is or whatever you fucking zoomer retard
>>734658345>it doesn't count unless i find it funlmfao every time
>>734658925and how many pure merchant playthroughs have you done in that game
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>>734658990no one finds it fun, that's why nobody gives a shit about whenever it's technically possible
>i don't find it fun so no one doesyou already said that
>>734658685Because its not a free roam sandbox game. You roleplay as adventurer with background in combat. Not a normal citizen. Same way you cant play as fucking peasant in witcher.
what if the nerevarine just chose to become caius' skooma dealer instead
>roleplaying means you make up some retarded backstorynah
>>734655697My Morrowind was so heavily modded it was an unrecognizable vampire/vampire hunter simulator experience and it ruled. A lot of those mods that I used seemed to have vanished from the internet sadly but the horror atmosphere was unmatched.
>>734655697Elder Scrolls for cosplayWrath of the Righteous for roleplayIts not that hard
>>734655925welcome to nu-/v/eddityou can thank the jannies
>>734655697There are mods for that.There are mods for literally every single problem you have with Morrowind
>>734655697>refuse to help the local thugs shake down the local Elves (my people!) for tax moneyThe Dunmer don't think like this. You are not their people. There are multiple layers of association which should be obvious with your "fellow" Dunmer calling you an N'wah for not being born there regardless of your race. They are deeply tribal and familial, and the Great Houses are adoptive so a non-Dunmer can be considered closer kin than another Dunmer. The Tribunal religion only props up a facsimile of a nation when in reality the whole place is more like 5 nations that contain 20 mini-nations all with varying degrees of connection and relation to each other in one big backstabbing incestuous game of politics. >can't even join the Cammona Tong eitherThey are embedded all over the place so you can help them in many ways without joining them. Many players don't pay attention and end up doing quests for corrupt quest givers when alternative paths for factions exist. Join House Hlaalu and the Fighters Guild and just blindly follow every order without seeking an alternative path (these actually exist btw for the thee big factions, no they don't exist for every 2 minute misc quest sorry), and you'll probably end up helping out the Cammona Tong a bunch.
>>734655697you now understand that RPGs cant exist as video games. they can only exist as table top games where the rules of what you can and can not do are determined by a person in real time. No video game is an RPG, they are all Semi Linear Action RPGs where you role play as the character given to you within the bounds of their imagination in a world of limited scope. in an Action RPG you need to justify why your character is doing something out of character to maintain the roleplaying.
>>734655697>>install Morrowindstopped readingpage 10
>Why do people hate me in this thread>>>/vrpg/3941635Poor you, least mentally stable morrowind ritual poster. Reporting does nothing.
>>734657249I'd argue it's the other way around, with narcissism being entwined with homosexuality.Being so in love with yourself that you can only love those similar to yourself.
>>734655697Well, Skyrim is an action adventure game. So if you're looking for an immersive RPG, where decisions matter, you barked up the entirely wrong genre of tree.You decided to kill Astrid? Have fun missing the entire Dark Brotherhood questline. Any creativity is punished.Enjoy it for what it is, an open world janky adventure where side quests are guaranteed to break no matter how many years of fixes go into it.
>>734660620>/vrpg/ is a place to discuss all types of role-playing video games, including single-player, multi-player, and massively multi-player, turn-based and real-time action, western-style and JRPG.>Does this mean RPGs are banned on other video game boards? No! /vrpg/ is just a separate board specifically focused on RPGs where discussions about your favorite games can thrive.
>>734660565>RPGs don't exist
>>734657173He's been doing this for nearly a decade now, it's nothing new. You should see /vrpg/ sometimes.
>>734660739Now read about shitposting and low quality posts in the FAQ if you evoke the rules.Spamming copy pasted bait threads is in no way a contribution.
>>734660739it's a literal repost
>>734655697Don't care, I still enjoy Morrowind. Sorry!
>>734660906>I don't like game>I like game, but not how OP created user engagement for thread about gameThat's fine, but these aren't valid reasons to have a thread removed. Your hatred is irrational.>>734660961Well ... literally speaking it's not.
>>734661024Nobody is fooled by this act, you autistic faggot. Why you spend your free time doing this shit is beyond me.
>play with TR and OAAB Odai Plateau (Hlaalu stronghold & quest mod)>sneaky character, finish Thieves Guild and Hlaalu questlines, start Hlaalu mod quests>because I picked the immoral options in most Hlaalu quests, Thieves Guild turns against me and I have all their leaders and lieutenants killed in a cheesy Red Wedding ripoff>later on reach Bal Foyen>find out the Thieves Guild got Red Wedding'd here too>find their operative. she tells something to the effect of "We were supposed to have a whole questline here about setting the guild up again, but Crazy-Legs Antaramo is dead so that's not gonna happen. Fuck off, Master Thief">me: "who the fuck is Crazy-Legs Antaramo? ..ooooh"should have had more consequences like this in the base game. closest thing I can think of is killing the Ienith brothers for the Thieves Guild first so the Morag Tong doesn't pay your for their writs.
>>734661096>why are you on a video game board discussing video games?
>>734661142>teehee I'm just talking about games
>>734661127Why is it House Hlaalu and Telvanni that always get the coolest quest mods?I want more shit for Redoran and Pax Redoran at this point is so ancient, it's incompatible with 90% of mods.
>>734655697Actually, the first time I played as a kid I played as a female bosmer with the Lady sign (so a ridiculously high personality) and there were many bandits who wouldn't attack me, and some of them even offered low level training services and repairingSo when I played a female orc next, imagine my surprise when none of them were friendly anymore...
I should be able to join the Camonna Tong as a Dunmer Outsider, if I prove myself to them.
>>734655697This is the eternal Morrowind trap — the game tells you to "make your own story" but the actual quest/faction structure was built around a fairly specific heroic arc and doesn't really accommodate neutral or evil playthroughs in any meaningful way.The Thieves Guild and Morag Tong are about as close as it gets to "morally grey faction content," but even they expect you to be broadly competent at violence and don't really interact with the economy or social scheming angle you were going for. Your character concept is genuinely interesting — a charismatic, non-combat alchemist who works angles and sells her skills to whoever pays — but Morrowind kind of needs you to eventually just be a sword with legs.The Camonna Tong thing especially stings because they're built up as this imposing criminal power that hates outlanders, and the obvious fantasy is infiltrating or manipulating them, but mechanically they're just hostile NPCs with slightly more dialogue before they attack you.The cruel irony is that your alchemy and speechcraft build is *technically* viable in a pure stats sense — you just have nothing interesting to *do* with it outside of making money you can't meaningfully spend on anything that advances your story goals.Oblivion actually handles the evil/neutral playthrough better (the Dark Brotherhood, joining bandits via mods, etc.) which is a sentence I never expected to type unironically.
>>734666693>—Thank you, ChatGPT.
>>734666830Nailed it the first time and still got called ChatGPT. Rough day.
Are there any good modlist for Morrowind worth playing? Something with the quality of Lorerim for Skyrim?
>>734656264>noooo we like Morroslop here!!! You can't point out its many flaws! MODS, DO SOMETHING!!!
>>734666963Path of the Incarnate.Although the most recent iteration changes the music and the lighting for the worse.
>>734666856How do you even write "—" on your keyboard? I only have "-" or "_"
>>734667053On Windows you can alt+0151 on the numpad, or just google "em dash" and copy it. Most people just set up an autocorrect so -- becomes — automatically.
>>734666964There's a reason there's rules against off topic, low quality, spam, and flame posts. This used to be a real website, faggots like you used to be smacked away like flies.
>>734660747You cant truly do whatever you want in an rpg video game
>>734667195You're not wrong that community standards matter — good moderation genuinely does keep forums valuable. But ironically, a post this hostile kind of undermines your own point. If you want higher quality discussion, modeling it tends to work better than this.
You're a dumb nigger if you don't like Morrowind
>>734655697Congrats, you found out in realtime Morrowind is legitimately one of the worst Bethesda games and that is saying a lot.For me, it was when I realized all the NPCs have recycled wikipedia dialogue. That told me all I needed to know about the game.Never, EVER listen to a Morrowtard. They'll just tell you to pretend and imagine it in your head.No thanks, I'll just play a good game instead.
>>734666963No, and until a mod makes combat more interesting than simply holding m1, there won't be.And Morrowtards are too busy trying to insert the entirety of Tamriel into Morrowind instead of fixing the actual core issues of the game, so don't hold your breath.
^ S'wit above me
>>734667448so
>>734657573>This is you. A retarded tranny faggot. Ho back to skyrim with your coomer mods and never come back.The only retard here is you and only you. You have no idea what you are talking about so stop projecting and kill yourself already
>>734657573>This is you. A retarded tranny faggot.Wrong, fuck off incel faggot>>734657573>coomer modsNo such thing, you have to go back
>>734655697this is because the dunmer were cursed by Azura. Choose a better race
>>734656176Morrowind is an AGP classic because if you kill that NPC wearing a pretty dress and put it on my male character, that's what you're wearing - same body shape, no morph to male version.Even male NPCs will happily wear something pretty if you sell it to them
You made this dogshit thread yesterday, you filthy fucking transsexual.
>>734658962>I couldn't even imagine being able to automatically recall a skyrim character's name, because none of the NPCs are notable in any way other than just being thereand they are in morrowind? at least they have unique dialogue in skyrim instead of everyone in each town being a carbon copy of eachother
>>734655697TES is trash, always has been. I have no idea why people even like it.The world is absolutely static and boring, the combat sucks giant dicks and gets dabbed on by Gothic, most characters are absolutely one dimensional and flat. But yea you can break the game with magic so fun.
>>734670091Gothic doesn't make you learn an interconnected public transit system.
>>734655697>can't even join the Camonna Tong either, they tell me to kill myself"Why can't I join the KKK as a black man? I'm really good at talking though!"
But you can join the Cammona Tong. There are mods for that.
mods are low quality
>>734671491Reminded me of this
>>734668489The dialogue system is the worst one I've ever seen. If you find the guy in town with the most wikipedia links, he will talk to you about 50 topics that are not interesting OR personal to him. AND then all of the topics will bury the quest he has. Its a fucking mess
>>734657573Normal human in vtmg rocks though.T. Ttrpg enjoyer who played a noir police detective deutragonist partymember in parallel to the vampire party and kept accusing them of being homosexual reefer addicts bc of all the vampire traits and attributes.I died very early on and had to make a genuine vamp but it was a cool experience and the dm framed it as a tragic end to a noir investigation. (My police detective's partner got killed for almost learning about vampires and the only clue i had was a cryptic picture of "The Tall Man.")
I love Morrowind but the game definitely could have done better on the immersion elements. A merchant playthrough should actually be a viable fucking strategy considering Mercantile is an entire skill separate from Speechcraft and manufacturing. This shouldn't actually be totally pie in the sky, the setting is full of people who and organisations that use money to push their agendas.
>>734672587how will you defeat the bad guy with mercantile
>>734671979Pretty sure he's talking about bloodlines and not the ttrpg
>>734672587That sounds dumb. The game is not pure open sandbox, mercantilism is just one skill that supports personality/speech. There is no world where you become the nerevarine by wheeling bowls and common shirts.
>>734660526You need to understand that whites are incapable of understanding the concept of in-group vs. out-group relationships between non-white groups. The average white person has no understanding of field niggers vs. slave niggers vs. Caribbean niggers vs. African niggers, East Coast vs. Great Plains vs. Southwest Native Americans, the severity of the caste system of Indians, the complex relationship between various Central American ethnic groups, how one's dialect of Mandarin/Cantonese may result in them getting killed and served in a restaurant, and more. For white people, there are only "good guys" (the political Left or Right, depending on their chosen false dichotomy worldview) and "bad guys" (the opposite faction), and white people with funny accents who are either still "good" or "bad".So, when a white person RP's in Morrowind, they don't understand that being a Dunmer doesn't automatically make them a part of the in-group. They think being called an "outlander" is a design limitation.
>>734673832>>734674696If the Nerevarine prophecy is being forced by the Empire to force Morrowind into submission, then it's entirely possible for a merchant to expend every financial resource to recruit and force mercenaries to fulfill the requirements of the prophecy which results in the death of Dagoth Ur. I can understand your egotistical need to get Azura's sloppy, but a real genius would not only put someone else's life at risk to get the job done, they would also put themselves in a position to become governor of Morrowind for the Empire once the Tribunal is killed and can't protect Morrowind, which would mean financial control of the numerous Houses.
>>734671585What can you do in these mods? What benefits do the Camonna Tong have?
>>734657573Well, why can't you?
>>734667093most people don't use it whatsoever
>>734678842Because they have set boundaries by the developers just like morrowind. Go play kenshi if you want a true sandbox or dwarf fortess adventure mode or any other text based game. I dont know many games like that. Better yet. Play a pen n paper rpg. There will be nothing holding back your imagination. What he said:>>734660565>>734671979I was talking about video games obviously. And yeah i will have to dust off my warhammer or neuroshima book. Im crawing some action.
>>734655697wow, she's cute...
