>stat checkIt's act 3 you should probably be doing at least a little bit of eugenics by thenOr just hit him with some shit minion and the next cat can get a free hit without getting sucked anyways
>>734726416CorrectInb4>But I passed the statcheck? So he's not a statcheck?
>>734726467>Or just hit him with some shit minion and the next cat can get a free hit without getting sucked anywaysThis strategy is irrelevant if you haven't passed the stat check, since he can spit out, move, inhale the pill and then attack all in the same turn.
what is the first state check thing you get from tink? i was sleep deprived. I've been mostly giving away kittens, busted cats, old strays and retired cats.
>>734726416based based based based basedFUCK SPEWERALL MY HOMIES HATE SPEWERSTEAKMUND DESERVES TO BE SODOMIZED FOR IThttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/734571705/#734573495https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/734571705/#734573946
>>734726689kek but anon on the left is right
You CANNOT enter Act 3 with no-passive cats. You HAVE to go in with a plan. You can do that with Act 1 and maybe 2 but Act 3 will punish the fuck out of you if you do not have some form of plan. Don't settle for cats that have middling stats either. I just beat Act 3 today twice and each time I went in with specific strategies.
>>734726416>2nd tried labs>1st tried ice age (rip cleric)>1st tried jurassic Did you guys meme me again?Is future harder?Or did I just get lucky?>Cats have like 3 or 4 7s at most>Some still have 4s
>>734726689>All of act 3 isBut that's just not true... Act 3 on normal is fairly relaxed for the most part. It's really just Spewer that decides that either you have multiple cats with 6 speed or you'll want to kill yourself from boredom.
>>734726749never underestimate how dogshit people are at the game>I can't faceroll with stray cats and no plangood, niggerinterface with the game mechanicstons of people have already seen the true credits
BRAINSTORM AND BRAINSTORM + APPRECIATION POSTREPLY IF YOU APPRECIATE BRAINSTORM
>>734726848Brainstorm sucksBut Brainstorm+ is so good that it's worth picking Brainstorm.
>>734726416Spewer isn't a problem at all if you're cats are prepared. You're not supposed to go to the lab without good cats and items.
>>734726878>Spewer isn't a problem if you pass the stat checkYeah, that's what OP said. Are you trying to disagree with it?
>>734726959Bro you arent running 2 melees 2 ranged?Hitting spewer with ranged literally has no retaliation
>>734726959I've beaten him with 4 speed cats so it's not impossible. You're just bad at the game. Having well equipped cats just makes him easy.
>>734727005Does not matter in the least if you don't pass the speed stat check.
Monk is so fucking bustedEven if you got no synergy / combos he can still get absurd shit like fist of fate+ or kamehameha +
>>734727037>I've beaten him with 4 speed cats so it's not impossibleNo one said it's impossible. But it impossible to do so consistently. Why do Spewer defenders keep trying to shift the arguments rather than just replying to the statements as presented? You don't need to suck his cock this hard and protect him like a damsel in distress. I promise you.
>>734727045>Out dps him>Fire immunity>Tiles dont affect you>Just fucking stun him or freeze him???Are you a magelet?
>BRO, JUST DON'T LET HIM EAT PIL->WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE EATS A PILL NO MATTER WHAT? YOU FORGOT TO PASS THE STAT CHECK
>>734727078We get it, bro. You lost your run.
>>734726416>Butcher gets to fuck him up for free diagonallyFeelsgoodman
>>734726749Eh kinda, when I did Act III, I only had like one cat with one 7 and everyone else was like average statted. I didn't feel I needed to engage with the "Eugenics" part in Act II so why bother lol.Turns out, yeah, breeding good cats is really a main mechanic of the game that shouldn't be ignored for long.Took me about 6 different tries with it, but after I got the good cats, it only took me 1st try the lab and Ice Age.Spewer still makes me wanna kill myself though. Not impossible, but I'd rather deal with a Holy Shield Dmg Up Stacy honestly.
>>734727296Top 3 most bullshit bosses in the entire game1) Spewer (Bullshit stat check)2) Dybbuk (Forced charm is infuriating)3) Arthur (Low chance, but sometimes he just gets an instant win button)
>pick literally any class that isn't tank, fighter, or thief>get a free win
>>734727336At least with Spewer, once you're done internalizing Steakmund's autistic and retarded rules of engagement for him, you don't have an issue with him againYou could have the best team of all time and still lose a cat or even wipe to Arthur
>>734726749I personally feel Ice Age being the hardest of Act 3 areas. The boss has caught me off guard and eaten my cats way too many times. Without Bunga, I would do Past to reach Infinity but because of Bunga, I always go through Das Future and The End.Das Future has more annoying regular battle enemies but the boss is easy. Also compared to Ice Age, you don't risk injuries from enemy getting to attack you. For Das Future I recommend bringing anything that can work around armor, because lot of enemies have armor. Also you want both melee and ranged.
>>734726802>tons of people have already seen the true creditsI don't think so.
From the Trees is a run winner. It's best on a druid but putting it on a psychic is fantastic as well.Fist of Fate on a fighter, tank or really any strong melee will completely destroy bosses later once it's upgraded.A necromancer with Spread Sorrow stacked with debuff-dealing equipment is a run winning strategy. If you get lucky and get numbing leeches or soul bond, you've won.You could also try to get eternal servitude. I've set to even see it appear. Webm related.
>>734727750Only 15% of people have even unlocked act 3 so farMy social media algorithms are full of depressed sadgirls and trannies making fanart of their favorite act 1 and 2 bosses, I can't wait to see the seething once they find out this game has evil mustache man
>>734727447All my cats are all retarded so I take as many fighters as it lets me every run.
>>734726416You make that video yet?
-stat checks are fine-the game has to account for people having better cats at that pointbasically skill issue if your cats arent 6 stat average at this point.
>>734728180Go fight your autistic war with Aquajeet in the other thread like you were doing lol
>>734728223>If you beat Act 1 and 2 through sheer tactics, you get punished for it.>If you beat Act 1 and 2 through grinding on the meta progression, you get rewarded for itThis is a bad thing.
>mech suittinkerer is now my favorite class and im installing the x99 rerolls just for this. fuck you edmund
>>734728303wrong.
>>734728451You didn't chew the steak
The game is called mewgenics. The meta progression is a fundamental part of the game's identity.Besides, spewer is easy with average 5 stat cats. Just attack from a diagonal
>>734728451Just breed more cats with it you goofballThen you can even use it on other classes
>>734728451don´t forget saveeditor so you can pick your passive and starter ability , no more need to bother with the retarded timewasting grinding
>>734726416People have problem with this?? Is this some joke?Its very straight forward and easy boss.
>>734728708The thread shitter's complaints about Spewer is that you can't beat Spewer with a cat who has 1-1-1-1-1-1 in its stats
>>734728708You passed the stat check>>734728771>Hyperbole because he doesn't want to admit there's a stat checkNoted
>>734726416I thought the point of act 3 is that you're supposed to have properly bred cats to even do it. Are the retards complaining about spewer going in with non all 6-7 cats? The final boss will wreck your anus if you dont have good cats. Get the fuck out of act 3 if you're not playing mewgeneics correctly.
>>734728887Maybe you should just play the game instead of dying on this retarded hill. If you were better at these tactics games you wouldn't be so dense brained about it.
>>734728303>I shouldn't have to upgrade my wooden sword to an iron sword in an rpg. That's just bad desgin! I should be able to beat the game with the wooden sword!Go play a different game. This one isn't for you.
>>734726416Radical Rat's bombs should not be allowed to explode immediately after he sets them down
>>734729054I'm playing the game right now
>>734726416>play an RPG without leveling your stats or using items>"WTF THIS BOSS IS A STAT CHECK!?"
just beat the final boss, the ost evolving between phases was so fucking kino
>>734729174Uh I thought you were leveling your stats with breeding cats. But I guess that's not actually important in this game.
>>734729174>buy a role playing game>they replaced all the role playing with spreadsheet simulatorAnd you're okay with this?
>>734729337rpgs are literally about number based combat.
>>734729372why are they named after something that they don't have? VR chat is 1000 times more of an RPG than something like Dragon Quest
>>734729448nobody cares, faggot.
>>734726416Spewer is the ultimate midwit filter, I too died to him the first three times I fought him but then I saw the light>begin turn>move in line with spewer>use spell to damage spewer>get succ'd>use basic attack to damage spewer, take 1 damage from knockback>rinse and repeat and he will be dead by round 3doesn't matter if your cat is melee or ranged. once you crack the code he becomes one of the most formulaic bosses outside of explicit gimmick bosses like Man on the Moon
>>734729482Really? When i first went to labs i sent my 'B-Team' since i knew it was gonna be learning experience. It was complete cakewalk and reminded me to not worry things in this game.
>>734726504The only pill worth stopping him from getting is the lava pillLet him waste his turns otherwise
>>734728451Mech suit is disappointingly easy to kill
>>734726416>OP is a huge faggot who made his own thread after getting clowned on by /v/
>>734729475You're lashing out because you're wrong.
>monk with hundred hand slapholy fucking KINOOO
>>734727336Dybbuk is a deceptively well-designed boss, he's annoying but he rewards cleverness.Arthur can fuck off though.
>>734727336Anyone that considers dybbuk tpo hard pr infair is legitimately retarded. Sorry anon.There's multiple ways to counter dybbuk if you sit down and think for 5 seconds.
i always take a screenshot of my squad every time they return from battlei am so proud of themi love them
>doing a replay of the game for funsies and to see just low your stats were at the start again>beat the desert, first guillotina fight>cats have 5-6 stats mostly>take a small amount of gear into the fight because it's just guillotina 1>actually end up losing to herGeez, no wonder some people have problems with her. She does a lot of damage. The thing is I remember absolutely steamrolling house bosses even without lots of gear in harder difficulties. I guess it's the lack of stats from mutations that I'm missing right now.
>>734729771>/v/ is totally a pro-Spewer boardNah. Everyone agrees it's a shit boss. You're only pretending he's not badly designed and unfun to try to bait people.
>>734730715only house boss that gave me trouble was the double kaiju fight.everything else was a oneshot for me and I think I only had strong prepared teams for C-1000 and Shitler3
>>734730740>Everyone agrees it's a shit bossI've noticed some anons needing to refer to imaginary majority for their opinions because they know they are in minority
>>734730661Dybbuk is bullshit for similar reasons to Arthur>Dies from DoT damage and possesses your best cat on a 1/4 chance>Alternatively, you kill him with your best cat accidentally cause of a "lucky" critical hit>If the things lined up just right for him, you're at the end of your round and he gets 3 free actions with your strongest cat>Not only that, but he automatically fills the mana bar of the cat he possessed>It now becomes a game of if the AI knows how to use the abilities your cat has or notAgain, much like Arthur, it's a low chance that things line up for him. But if it does happen, it's bullshit.
>>734730827The only time Spewer even started having positive comments was in the past week with the classic contrarians like (You) starting to want to counter the popular narrative.You can easily just look up "Spewer" on the archives if my screencap isn't good enough for you.Shit boss and you're a faggot.
>>734730827this but the inverse
I have literally never died to Spewer. I don't understand any of the things people call difficult about this game. Yes, my cats are strong, I figured in a game about breeding cats, you ought to be breeding cats. I produce about 20 kittens per day, tossing the garbage into my fight club room and the inbreds in my adventure room.
>>734730865Are they all your posts?
>>734730842If you know you have a really strong cat that would be dangerous against your team, why the fuck would you risk them getting possessed in the first place? That is absolutely a skill issue.
>>734728303Yeah, can't believe you have to do eugenics in the game called mewgenics
>>734730902Post cats
>>734730787Oh yeah, the double kaiju fight for the first time was a real slobberknocker. Ended up losing to it on my first playthrough too I think. I would probably call it the hardest housefight, or maybe the very last one. They can be real endurance fights.
>>734730979>Just don't have DoT based builds and don't attack with one of your cats at all (Or bring busted teams) to DybbukYeah, I think you're just giving me more arguments on why he's in my top 3 most bullshit bosses.
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>>734731074>don't attack with one of your catsUnironucally yes. That is the type of strategizing dybbuk is designed for.
>>734731101Nice save editor
>>734730842Dybbuk is a very fair boss. It's really easy to bait him into a corner during the first phase, or to damage him with aoe attacks, or to use summons to surround him, or to immobilize him, there are a dozen ways of dealing with his bullshit. His basic attack does very low damage and the only other thing he does is summon wisps that go down in two hits. The phase where he possesses one of your cats is the only difficult part of the fight, so just pay attention to his healthbar and don't finish him off with your carry. It's that shrimple
>>734730024yeowch
The shitter fears this guy?Also, why on earth do you only have 1 viable cat whose possession you are afraid of? Why aren't your other 3 cats strong?
>>734726416I think his inhale damage should be nerfed a little, but at least you can plan for the encounter. Weather events in this game are pure bullshit, way worse than any boss.>birdemic while running druid>infestation while running angry faceI don't understand how some of these interactions made it through testing.
>>734731380training dummy can be run-ruining against certain encounters turn 1
>>734730740why the fuck would i talk about a boss that doesn't give me trouble outside of spreading salt in shitters wounds
>>734730408Once I intentionally avoided damaging dybbuk with anything but my really weak thief. he died to the poison DoT damage inflicted by my thief.He possessed my giga-tank.
I found a very important tech for you morons to abuse the ever living shit of.So you know how you can reset a fight without Steven fucking with you if you didn't do anything before the fight?Well color me surprised when I find Arthur in my impossible run and his first turn he Split The Atom, before I can even act.I get pissed and decide to my The Relic around, I had a cat with the Mini-Me bonus from the babies + egg, give him The Relic... and now Arthur has a different set of elite bonuses and instead of Split The Atom his first move is Summon Shade.I retry this, reset the fight, re-add the Mini-Me and boom: Split The Atom.Adding/removing Mini-Mes change the seed of a fight.I am wondering if it is the luck manipulation that changes things or what, regardless in this very niche situation you now can manipulate what sort of fights you'll face in the future, think of it like a special re-roll for enemies elite buffs.
>Just gave a broken cat of mine eternal youthHmm... Soul and soulless at the same time. I could just keep bringing her to rape the game constantly, but that wouldn't be very fun.
>>734726416What's stopping you from attacking with a hunter while your melees break the pills?That said, I've never had trouble with him and just basic attack with everyone. Usually just takes 2 rounds.
Okay I genuinely have to ask since I don't get it.What's the deal people have with spewer?I'm not good at this game, I don't pretend to be. I have some good cats but I mostly just throw my good ones into a 45 stim room and the rest into a -50 comfort room and pick the good ones when I play that aren't already dead.Dybbuk fucked me when he killed half my party before king.Gambit fucked me once when my minions proceeded to consistantly spawn and reroll his dice into 5/6's.Coven fucked me when I had a really slow team that couldnt out of the feast cone.Dread fucked me a lot on hard because the legs having the depression or bouncy debuff is kinda bullshit.the 50 health shit cats also kinda suck if your team ended up bad.Chief unga bunga fucked me a lot because concussions really suck if you only take int buffs around what spells you cast each turn.But I haven't ever lost to spewer a single time. Even with the shitty lava stacking 16-20 fire on my cats I usually win and heal up on the first 2 future/past fights.The only bosses that have genuinely fucked me over so hard I couldnt do anything from turn 1 was the creator copying a cat I couldnt kill in time before it kills me because of turn order. C-1000 doing something simmilar, and King chain webbing the only good cat on my team.Even on my first time vs mother I only died once because I got fucked up by the hard path before her. My first time I had thorns out the ass and just killed all the heralds by doing nothing and that was enough for me to suss out that I should atleast bring a little AOE if I havr a cardinally locked damage dealer like a thief.Chubs and nubs filtered me a lot early on but I got over them and it was mostly because I accidentally bred the entire dex stat out of all my cats and had to beat them with mediocre fighters until I did a purge.Bumblefoot isnt usually too bad but I took a melee only team once to the bunker. I think id rather deal with the crater under those conditions.
>>734731746Aren't eternal youth cats those perma-kitten ones? You can't bring kittens on adventures
>>734731812>Dybbuk fucked me when he killed half my party before king.Why would you go through Boneyard to reach the King after doing the quest to open Throbbing Domain?
>>734731826Oh, ok. Nevermind then, kek.
>>734731464I haven't encountered that weather yet, but I believe it. In general, I think these events miss the mark. They range from completely insignificant to perfect counters of class/quest choices you made at the beginning of a run, and the player has zero control over any of it (no stat checks; can't opt out).If I had to compare it to Isaac's curses, I think the worst weather rolls are WAY worse than something like curse of the blind.
>>734731812I haven't lost against Spewer so far either, but I have had runs that made the fight insufferably long, and overall I think Spewer is a very boring and poorly designed fight anyway. It's really strange how the minibosses have far more engaging gimmicks than most of the chapter bosses.
>>734731812I'm going to assume retards are just throwing random cats in labs with no items and expecting it to play out like the other two acts.
>>734731949Spewer has a lot of potential to snowball, and he's really punishing against melee units, especially those who don't have attack skills. I think he's a bit overtuned, even if I haven't wiped to him yet.
>tinker badOKAY GUYS HEAR ME OUT
How the fuck do I stop inbreeding going rampant when the strays always have disgusting 4’s or 5’s in their stats?I got like fucking 67 appeal and still they show up with trash stats
>>734732103>2 spitballsI am whelmed
>>734731872Vibes, mostly.The only checkmarks I have left on hard are collarless to infinite and a couple of caves before I get into crazy. I kinda just like junkyard for the most part, also if im strong enough that I feel a run can get to king I'm kind of in a mindset of "may aswell" the random directions for quests also probably lead to that.Maybe i'm jusr scared of sharks and avoid it subconciously. >>734731949I won't say he's particularly interesting but also for the most part he dosen't do a ton of damage. even rotating through pills and ending up tarred/burned to hell I think in terms of first chapter bosses I would still rather deal with spewer than queen hippo's brace/movement. Maybe it's just a case of what constitution people have on their cats because I feel very uncomfortable picking cats who end on 24 con.>>734732079I feel like if that were true the infested/spun cats would be super nutorious by comparison. The amount of time's I've lost a cleric/mage to the int-draining parasite is atleast 5 times. Which isnt a lot but I don't have 200 hours in this game yet so it's probably a lot. Even the the passive that limits stats to 5 didnt work.
>>734726416I quit when i reached the deserto for the First time. My cats were doing five damage while the skeletons were healing each other for ten every turn and I wasnt having fun anyway
>>734732210>but also for the most part he dosen't do a ton of damageIt's not the damage that's the problem (as you said, his damage is pitiful), it's the lack of movement once he has the opportunity to spam tar tiles everywhere. You win the fight easily but it feels like pulling teeth to get there. It isn't a fun fight in any way.
>>734731812Chapter 1 final bosses are all pretty easy to deal with, even Stacy is very manageable. Spewer in comparison can do a lot of damage fast, and he's a really bad matchup for melee cats which are probably the most popular classes. He did give me some serious trouble first time I got to him, though I just started breeding my cats a fuckton in response til I could send squads of 4 heavily mutated cats with mostly 7s. Haven't struggled with him since
>X class is good as long as you have XYZ itemsthis should never be a serious argumentclasses should be judged solely on their performance on an all 5s normal cat
>>734732314I suppose that makes sense. One of my go-to builds right now involves using a rain staff to turn everything into water and electrocuting the entire arena which led to most of my cats not being able to move out of the water when knocked in. (still works)But people talk about spewer like the 5 health he healed from a pill was such setback that they needed to breed 5 more strength onto their cats to overcome it.>>734732356I think ice-stacy is the hardest ch1 boss just because of the chainfreeze potential on very slow teams. I basically always pick lightning now. Spewer, even if I end up with a few injuries I feel like i can just punch and it works even with a bad team (assuming they could survive the act3 hard path to begin with)
Any class is good enough for my dick as long as they have Ass Blast
sex with marshmallow
>>734732229The skeletons are extremely rare in the desert.
>RNGslop
Them bones them bones them anon bones
I think midboss cats that appear on stage 1 of every Acts actually represents a suggested team-composition for this entire Act.Act 1: Fighter, Tank, Ranger, Mage. Pretty default thing, you don't really need Cleric there anyway. And you better have some range and knockback for Boris, sharks and spiders.Act 2: Cleric, Necro, Thief, Butcher. It actually suggests you to take a variety of heals, mobility and armor penetration. Act 3: Druid, Tech, Psychic, Monk. All those classes bloom with high-quality bred cats. And all of them versatile, can be range or melee and can bully Spewer into oblivion.
this game is pretty close to something great but it disrespects your time and efforti regret the 50+ hours i spent playing this. it was carried out of the soundtrack and the vibes.
DIE NAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>734733264I have over 300h in Mewgenics and 3000h in Isaac. Getting to play a game lot is a great thing.
>>734733285why did he do the christian thing? hitler was a pagan and killed over 5 million white christians.
>>734733327did i ask? autistic fuck
>>734726416Just attack the pills what the fuck is wrong with you people? How is this so hard for you?
i just unlocked the caves and already got this from the it was made for me perk
>>734733360it's called crossing
>>734733264>it disrespects your time and effortIt's usually not that bad, but there are some instances that I can't defend. I've only had about 2 or 3 times where events ruined a run in ~100 hours of gameplay. That being said, I lost angry face to a weather roll (infestation), costing me not just 30+ minutes I had spent on the run but also costing me the hours it will take for benis to give me that quest item again. If I attempt it again (seriously considering a break from the game), I'm making a copy of my save beforehand.
>>734733395the head and mouth are solid. tail is okay but tail is a competitive slotrandom freeze is annoying as fuckpretty nice freak. good luck breeding the good stuff out
>>734733367You need to play to learn.
>>734733394You can only prevent Spewer from eating the pills if you pass the statcheck.
>>734729109They don't.
>>734733520Not him but they do if they hit a fire tile
>>734732103Tinker with hone and a gun is a one cat rape machine
>>734730702Good on you, anon!
>>734726416>My cats rarely gets any skills or passive i need. Fucking rng. How the hell i am supposed to breed perfect OP cats when cats just fuck randomly and kittens randomly get defects instead of cool mutations. Fuckton of kittents goes straight to that pedo guy before i get a decent party and still they end up getting shit spells and shit passives. Or if any cat gets something cool then random effect gives them some mental disease that makes cat move randomly. FFS AT least Marshmallow sexo.
>>734726416>otherwise well designed gameHalf the classes are poorly balanced, too.
You're ready for a 4th act anon?
>>734733674all good stuffI want more home mechanics though. house management gets so dry and flavorless when you finish all the neighbor donations
>>734733674Steakmund... My reddit friend... Who exactly is this DLC for?
>>734726416More of a team building check than a skill check.
>>734733360Hitler 2 had a christian arc
>>734733720Yeah, I need more cat interactions and random events there. Just more flavorful stuff where my retired cats hang out and have fun.
>>734733659>sample
>fight Mother>have a Monk with Blood Frenzy that shits flies almost every turn>the Monk solos the fight until Mother is down to 10 HP>finish her with a HunterI have no idea about what the fuck this bitch is meant to do during her fight lmao
>>734733720I can see Edmund punishing the player in the future for just sending a suicide cat against home bosses
>>734733659You know, it's probably possible to breed a cat that looks very similar to Marshmallow
I just did a run with this and killed the end boss in the infinite, but didnt get any option to use this.
>>734733728me
>>734733815>no idea about what the fuck this bitch is meant to doPick up your units? I am also not too sure.
>>734730740I feel bad for the guy that has to cleanse his sparkling bloodline. I can relate to that kind of bullshit.
>>734733857>InfiniteAnon. You sure you were meant to bring to Infinite. Did it need some other ingredident from some other act final boss?
>>734733878>>734733815The tumors pick up units and bring them to Mother. If Mother's low damage attacks downs them, Mother eats them. At low health/death Mother turns the tentacles into Heralds who have the shadow clone ability. So you need to kill Mother and also make sure you won't be swarmed by the Heralds and their clones.
>>734733878She spawns her tumors around her, the pillars try to toss you towards the boss. If you leave the pillars up they turn into Heralds (the dudes who create a shadow clone and then teleport and attack). If you are grabbed by her tumors, they will carry you closer to the main body. If you are next to the main body when the boss takes its turn, you are instantly killed.
>Persuasion Device not triggering again isn't a bug, it's intended design>Devs basically saying "If you fucked that up, you're a shitter. Get fucked"lol, I did finish that quest, but this feels like a very cunt attitude to have in a game where anything could happen at any point
>>734734045Which part of that is a "cunt attitude"? I don't see any malice in these posts.
>>734733857Anon you basically delivered raw food to the wrong person.
>Cat has no mouth through a mutation>make him a Druid without thinkingWhoops.
>>734730740I am just beside myself that people are struggling with this boss. It really is a retard filter. I never thought anything of him. Things like Bumblefoot is a boss who I would say needs a bit of a nerf. Just that bone spewing move really. That can do 17ish damage all around him. That dude can break a run and test your team comp.
>>734731274I gave him a death shroud and a bulletproof vest and killed and raised him again over and over on a caves run.
>>734734336people also thought trampy/dybbuk were overtuned back when everyone was on Act 1 lmao
I feel like Spewer wouldn't be so bad if tar weren't so shitty
>>734734336Only time I lost to bumblefoot is when I did a "damage everything" spell without thinking it through, cause it killed all the corpses. Spewer is way more punishing if you haven't maxed out cat stats (Specifically speed)
>>734733360many people who no longer consider themselves part of a faith turn to it in the face of death out of fear and guilt
>>734734045>persuasion device is busted>not free mini-mes with eggs+babies>not staking endlessly kinetic spikes>not resurrecting actual bosses with eternal servitude>not guns which insta-kill most enemiesAre they retarded?It's crazy how they made an amazing game but they don't know how it actually works, like how they claim Mage is one of the best classes.
>>734734435Dybbuk is overtuned. They didn't design the possession properly and charm effects are always annoying.
>>734734449For me it's the fucking brace. Which comes with the tar pill, actually. It's so annoying.
>>734733671Tinker is not half the classes
The only bad class is MageTinkerer have access to alot of broken passives that stand on their ownBlack smith and Armor specialistRepair is a good active alsoand Ducttape allow you to print weapons to bring home.
There’s nothing moreTo say or doOr want or learnOr make or playTo see or hearOr smell or fearOr taste
>>734734661Both Mage and Tinkerer are bad for the same reason. What you're using to defend Tinkerer could just as easily be used on Mage. No class is literally worthless, it's just a matter of consistency.
>>734734661My problem with mage is that it has too many non/low-damaging gimmick moves that pollute the ability pool so you get a shitty 7 damage line of sight shooting attack mage 90% of the time with retarded passives that don't synergize with anything.
>>734734336Spewer protecting the lightning cunt, the ice cunt and the final boss in hard+ from hate.The first 2 being designed to turbo stall with the first one having an infinite stall vs kinetic spikes, the second one just being push and slow spam where you need high range or dash/teleport, and the final boss copying your fucking items while he can give your copies higher speed so they maul you before you can do anything.
>>734733857Mewgenics fans never beating the can’t read allegations
>>734734748Mage can't print weapons dipshitMage can't magically double all its equipment passives/activesYou retarded nigger its a game about eugenics and mage have NO easy top tier passive/actives
>>734733857Me but with the black stone item not accumulating any kills because I kept taking it to the alley instead of the desert.
>>734734878Funny that the ESL-faggot is calling anyone retarded.
>>734734661Even steakmund says Tinker is shit
>>734734923When?
The difference between tinkerer and mage is that tinkerer actually have a dozen S tier abilities
>>734734923Steakmund put druid in mid tier.
>>734734868>even the mewgenics players beating the infinite cant readMewgenics bros...
>>734734923>>734734930Nta but Edmund released his own tier list of classes in Twitter and Tinkerer was in D
>>734734045I think it's a bit silly, but I'm more concerned with how long it takes to cycle through quest items, in general. Why should I have to sift through hours of a grind for a re-attempt of a quest that I only failed due to an unavoidable event? I get why some of the items are cursed, but it's not a good design choice to have an item (that takes hours to obtain) be cursed in an environment where a random dice roll can explode said item at any time.
>>734735105You can trash quest item....
There was nothing wrong with curses in isaac, those complaining just had a skill issue.Likewise there is nothing wrong with weather effects and events in this game, just another case of skill issue.
>>734734932I have not used mages after act1 I have noticed.In act3 cleric, necromancer also tank fell off but also because the act is more about just doing damage fast, and these are sustain classes. Tinker I also used a lot at least in act1 and 2 because I have research bred into my cats, and are still playable in act 3 that way I suppose, though they never have been broken as other classes for me.
>>734735140I get it, man, and I might. But I'm also making a back up save the next time I run angry face. I realize now that the completion % for that quest is as low as it is because of how easy it is for the game to delete the masked cat.
>>734735173*dies turn 1 to birdemic crow*Very skilled indeed
>>734735173Edmund once admitted on his tumblr that curses where his failed attempts at replicating level feelings from Spelunky.
>>734734314>I have no mouth and I must sing
>>734735173weather effects are not a big problem, the random I give you disease or parasite that kills your character or whole run is pretty annoying. It doesn't happen to me that often. than it seems to happen to other people. The two times i got blood frenzy was before the final boss and then it didn't matter lmaoEdmund made some statements that this will toned down in future patches/dlcs I suppose.
>>734735215Tinkerer is what I like to call a potential man class.You can get alot value out of it if you just breed for a specific active or passive.If you have tech and duct tape you can go on solo runs and get around 10+ tech3 weapons to bring back.
>>734735173You just haven't been fucked hard enough yet. A few of the weather interactions are insanely unfair, much worse than curse of the blind ever was. The player can opt out of blind items at the very least.
>>734735215>Let's try this FOTM out>Get to that retard with a heart condition>It gets 20 turns and kills your entire team on turn oneHow can anyone enjoy this?
you DO love and care about your cats... don't you anon?
>>734735318>duct tapeI used Tinkerer a lot (because of research) and I wish duct tape was offered to me. I got it once and then I didn't know its potential really.
yeah that explains a lot
>>734735368this didn't happen
>>734735368that its legitimately a skill issueHippo gave me some injuries for sure but never wiped to it
Did you guys know that if you use the tinkerer's repair+ skill on someone, their items all lose the worn tag and can be used more times before they break?
>>734735446His gimmick isn't nearly cool enough to be a main boss.Also you downgraded him to miniboss but didn't nerf him to compensate?
>>734735434Duct tape+ removes the cursed restriction.I usually check to see what upgrade does before picking it.Another upgrade glow up is Hamster styleHamster style+ allow basic to hit up to a dozen times
>>734735551How would you possibly know that they didn't nerf him when they downgraded him to miniboss?
>>734735381>low statsget flushed>diseaseget flushed>missing the right mutationsget flushed>low libidoget flushed>aggresivemight get flushed
>>734735501it's not skill issue, it's just a lie. hippo can only move 1 tile at a time on round 1. if this is true he'd need to have gotten all his cats to 0 CON and positioned them on all 4 adjacent tiles to hippo, and I don't believe that. you have to go out of your way to lower your CON to 0 and position your cats so horribly.
>>734735381i care for half of them which are the ones i bred to be house catsthe other half are mutants i send out into the wild like an ancient curse to suck 500 food out of guillotina when i need it
>>734735368Hippo dies after round 4How the fuck do you manage to lose before that
>>734735501People who post cats are intentionally being retarded, anon
>>734729109He unironically gets harder later in the game because all of your cats take their turn first so he just throws the bomb then gets the detonate turn.
>>734726416post butthleo
>>734735368Did you seriously wipe at the hippo?
>not touched the game for 2 weeks after beating final boss>open game during lunch break to do a hard act 3 run>first battle>butcher harpoons the super mutant and the super mutant proceeds to instant kill himI went out of my way to download a cheat trainer right after this and used it to beat the run out of spite.Literally the three events after this was a random Parasite, Fault lines hole and Satan.I'm installing FTL instead fuck this noise.
>>734735636Half of the cats I get have 12 HP and shit skills, like "Roll one tile", and if I try to make a 40 hp one it's garbage at everything and can barely hit or move.
>>734734045Imagine in Binding of Isaac if you got Godhead on a run and it never appeared again after that, kek
just say it to my face jack
>>734728303So breeding should be entirely ignorable/passive?It's the point of the game
>>734735037May i see it?
>>734735173I dunno man curse of the blind is just emotionally devastating in a game like Isaac
>>734735884I guess they didn't read the name of the game
>>734735636>>734735842And there was that fucking 999HP scarecrow you can't move that hits your entire party if it receives damage, and I swear the thunder never missed one of my fucking cats (Or the scarecrow)
>>734728303YOU HAVE TO DO CAT EUGENICS IN THE GAME CALLED MEWGENICS?????? WHAT????
>>734735780where do you get your trainers from these days? beat the creator for the first time today. I'm kinda done. I wanna fuck with some of the other save states.
>>734735964Honestly the eugenics and cat breeding in general feels half-baked for some reason
>>734735581Because Zodiac became a main boss and is still piss easy.
>>734735963Here's a tip anonThe most important stats are Luck and SpeedDo not bring a cat that is under 5 on both of these
>>734736026You wouldn't be able to tell judging by the bitching about Zodiac day 1 or the general bitching about the desert.
>>734735841even tho i liked him a lot i also didn't expect people in general to like gambit as much as they dohe's really fun
I need this goofball to pass of its goofball passive and I fear time might run outStatistically she should pass it off to one cat at least, but we'll see.>get pregnant>get pregnant>get pregnant
>>734736080its more about the desert than zodiac itselfIf you don't have the healing you might be too whittled down to take his shots, and people hat not enough experience with both.
>>734736123Here's your jester award:
>>734735446if Zodiac was a miniboss, who was originally intended to be the desert boss then?
>>734736123Forbidden clussy
>>734736205dust devil
>>734735892Edmund twitter
>>734736229is that confirmed or speculation?
>>734734314>Gave the cleric class to a cat with Flame 1 in their basic attack in two different occasions.You are not so bad
>>734736282Confirmed speculation
>>734736304bruh
>>734733836I just need to know how to make stronk cats.
>>734736317I'm not anon btw, I have no idea laul
>>734733659continue to donate kittens to tink for breeding tools and get the room updates from Frankalso get comfort and stimulation furnituremakes targeted breeding actually possible, before its kind of a gamble
Winnie here, from hit movie Ghoul School, used Nail Flurry once on the Throbbing King, and I thought I was softlocked, because his corpse can't be destroyed, and it kept going forever.She gained 837 armor, 836 range and 418 attack. This was in one turn, where she only moved, then used nail flurry for 10 mana. Can anyone explain?
>>734736552You have to breed them yourself.
ROBOTS SEE YOUROBOTS TELL YOUROBOTS HATE YOU
>>734736809It's robots smell you actually, not tell
>>734736661Nail Flurry+ throws additional nails based on your dex. You must have had a passive or item that increases your dex (I'm guessing through backstabs/critting) and it looped into itself. It's a powerful combo.
>>734736893oh right, I had a monk passive that gives me more dex and strength, flow state I think
>>734736859oh thanks
>>734734932teach is literally the best spell in the game because it enables everyone
>Christianity exists >but so do demigods, kaijus, chaos gods, aliens, mutants Why is the Isaac universe so weird
>>734737010Catstianity*
>>734736974>Brainstorm but for a turn No thanks
>my inbred gay retard cat started a fight and fucking died before he could pass tachysensia downFUCK NO please tell me there's a way to roll for it. Should I set up an inbreeding room? Low health?
>>734737010because it's funI wish there was a Hollow Earth section but canonically it probably conflicts the the Core too much and might be too similar to Crater or Jurassic sections
>>734737201Maybe there's a hollow earth underneath core
>>734737154you can just set up a low health room, pretty much my mutation room doubles at itor inbreedingy yeah
Dybbuk isn't even remotely hard, you fucks just refuse to actually counter it. Any sort of indirect damage makes it eat shit. It will ALWAYS prioritize the lowest hp cat when choosing a random target, including downed cats. Literally just exercise caution when you draft a hunter against dybbuk, or decide to pick it off with your meatstick fighter cat.
>>734737248oh yeahEDMUUUND give me that DLC
>>734737154I think tachysensia is the only disorder I'd actually want on my cat. That+8 speed is juicy af and evergone knows in strategy games like this, speed and mobility are the most important stats
>>734729337you're roleplaying as a crazy cat lady
>>734737295And then there's mega hell underneath that with mega satan. Trust the steak
>>734736809>>734736859Taser Paws and Chaos song are really growing on meSoundtrack is just so good
>>734737274>mandatory injury (ie permanent stat loss) and internal squabble right before entering the throbbing domainNah I'll stick to the caves. Junkyard is cancer too
>>734736120it's the retarded footstep sfx that sells gambit for me
>>734733360he wanted to go to heaven because thats where all the dogs are.thats what he said in the credits at least.
>>734735964The problem is that the cat eugenics isnt a skillgate its a timegate. Act 3 is not a tactics game, its a ftp gacha where you need this many 5* units to pass. The game utterly collapses arpund its concept at this point.
>>734737464>waddles around>shits himself>waddles around >confuses himself
>>734737583You are meant to spend you time in act 1 and act 2 to get your cats up to code for act 3. Either by having great stats or by sending them in with good items already. It doesn't get as unforgiving as you are making it out to be until you are hitting act 3 hard.
>>734737615You forgot>sometimes the die decides to roll 6 four times in a row and you are out of ways to reroll it further
>>734735286How did he fail at that when Spelunky level feelings are so blatant with how they work>level has an extra challenge>but also an extra reward or treasure if you play along right>ie. dark levels having scarabs worth tons of cash, the alien feeling having a free jetpack if you bomb down the miniboss, etcI wouldnt have guessed that was what it was based on because curses just offer annoyance without the garanteed reward unlike level feelings.
>>734737685Its not unforgiving, its just a statcheck that you must grind to win. Its like if ff4 hard required you to level your characters and grind palom to learn quake in order to kill baigan, rather than just making it really hard but allowing you to still defeat him with superior tactics by juggling the hands properly.
have only done Das Füture, so far and not The End, but so far I'd say that the past get's WAY easier if you have good ranged options while the Future seems to favor melee focused classes and classes that can deal more easily with high shield enemies.Ice Age just is miserable if you don't have range and are in a map with 4+ Cavemen who will get like 1-2 spear throws off turn 1 and buff themselves to like +2-3 dmg before you even can realistically do anything.
>>734729108in a good game you would be able to offset the stat upgrades that come from upgrading wood>iron sword with skill
>>734737836You need melee for Das Future and you need range for The End
>>734726416Clots and Clot Cats are the single most overpowered enemy in the game.I'm in the Throbbing Domain and 3 tiles away from the fetus with the crown and get a map with 4 blood bags that spawn clots. Those fucking things "have a chance" to turn into Clot Cats when they change every single attempt.That said, I don't know if I'm even supposed to be at the TD yet. I've only been to Act 2's basement/lab boss once with the giant brain that only attacks when wet/being cleaned.I've beat graveyard and caverns with every class I have unlocked (only cleric, thief and necro unlocked) and lost every time the Doctor gave me a quest item. I've beat Guillotina 3 times and took her head to the altar in TD.I've been doing this all blind as to not spoil but kinda stuck. I had a few good but wiped a bunch and now have to rely on the game giving me 4 each evening.
>>734737836Always bring both ranged and melee. Das Future's armor can be bypassed with Marked and anything bypassing armor
>>734737992Yeah. I don't usually have problem with the clots and the clot cats but one run my DPS came from repeated against instead of single bursts and I got overwhelmed by the clots.About Tina's head, you only need to do the sacrifice once. Once you done it, the Throbbing Domain stays open and you can enter it through both Caves and Boneyard
>>734737992I literally never had one single issue with clot cats ever and I do mean ever, even on Impossible.
>>734736661Is this cat good for C-1000? Hes coming in three days
>>734737992And you can do Throbbing Domain at any point. All Acts 1-3 have an extra area like Throbbing Domain. Act 2 has Rift with Chaos and Act 3 has Infinity with Guppy God (the player character of Mewgenics is Isaac's Mom)
>Persuasion device is one-time only so if you lost it your save file is brickedCool implementation for the first side quest
>>734738090I already posted about it. It's whether you have burst damage or repeating damage >>734738083>>734738116Yes. If you can get Front Attack immunity or Back Stab immunity, even better. As long as you don't bring cats with strong AOEs you are cool. The boss is like the terminator from Terminator 2 copying your cat and its abilities. So no AOE unless you want to get hit by your own AOE
>>734738202damn.I was wondering when it would show up again, I had a very unlucky run and lost it right at the end.
>>734737813Nah, it's nowhere near that. If you truly believe that, it's more indicative of skill issue than anything else. I only started to truly breed my cats after I started act 3, and did everything except of the Infinite before my cats started to get all 7s. Be smarter about your team selection, be smarter about your items.
>>734738202You're joking... right?
>>734737813I have no idea why players try to prevent levelling up in JRPGs
>>734738202It's inevitable that it's the first sidequest, but I don't get why you never get it again. I guess he thinks it would make future acts too easy?
>>734738245Yeah I was doing fine until my hunter's minion happened to land the last hit and get posessed. He wiped my entire party and that's still the only side quest I've ever failed with act 3 almost finished.
>>734738137Why would you spoil him like that you humongous faggot
>>734738303nta but it's been discussed in the thread.It's first side quest and it doesn't repeat. All the other sdie quests are in randomized order and do repeat
>>734738339That's exactly it. The Persuasion Device is pure upside.
>>734738314Play games like ff 1-5 or dq 1-6 without overleveling and find out
>>734738202is this a bug or WAI?someone should tweet edmund or tyler about it, as I don't know anyone that has got the quest to cycle back in. I have ~140 hours and missed the persuasion device and have had no opportunity to obtain it since.
>>734726416I.... I HAVE NO ARGUMENTS AGAINST THIS...
>>734738476Tyler tweeted that he's going to update the game to give you the achievement whether you win or lose and retroactively award it to anyone past that point.
>>734727078>roll an attack spell>use it on spewer>attack with basic>rinse and repeatEven if you run fighter or thief, there are so many ways to heal up in this game that spewer only becomes mildly more annoying. Why wouldn't you invest in health if you know you can only attack in a straight line. The level up screen is a multiple choice question, you know?
>>734738558link to the tweet?
>>734738435I like my characters getting stronger from fighting
>>734738557>called mewgenics>don't mewgenic>A-ACK!
>>734738558Did we ever get a word on if you can get both kaiju collars on one save?
>>734738557>blatanty rushes through the game>wtf I have to breed my cats???every time. Some of the events are bullshit though I'll give him that
>>734738557>played for over 100 hours>couldn't use psychic or monkHoly dogshit, and he wrote an essay?
>3 save slotsEach one is going to need to be 100% and beyond, right?
>>734738557>My first impressions weren't good.stopped reading right there
>>734738757No. The save slots are for siblings/spouses. You aren not expected to fill them yourself.
>>734738557>dislike game>keep playing it for 100+ hours>still dislike game??? Is he retarded????
>>734738597https://xcancel.com/TylerGlaiel/status/2031569583044440506
>>734738716You cannot. Tyler's reasoning was that he wanted the achievement percentages to accurately reflect who people chose
>>734738796because it's the fotm game and normalcattle feel pressured to play it and pretend to enjoy it because so much people they know are playing it, so it must be good, do not DARE to have opinions of your own
>>734738557slop the spire has done irreversible damage to the roguelike genre
>>734738876But 100+ hours? Why the fuck would you dedicate 100+ hours of your limited time playing something you dislike?? If a game doesn't hook me by the first hours I drop it. At some point you just have to understand that the game is either shit or not meant for you and move on
>>734738796someone told him it gets good 105 hours in
Fleeeeeas~
>>734737992And this is why I specifically breed cats with the trample mutation. Clots, birds, spiders, maggots, corpses, idgaf. Hit the boss, then stomp them into paste before they become a problem. Easy.
>>734738670RPGs are about strategy and tactics, characters and enemies 'getting stronger' is the method to introduce new tactical diversity over the course of a game.
>Doing Angry Face quest >Get to first event in Desert >Insta swarm weather effect that applies rot to everyone that destroys bodies when they die
>>734739070But he stopped at 103...
>>734726467>eugenicsMewgenics
Endless misery is the worst song in the game, without vocals it's great but the vocals are just words being sad without rhyme or rhythm
>>734739260>I'm 103 hours in, I'm almost done I think, I beat the 3rd act, about to od it again for a questread anon, read
I don't know if I'm allowed to post this one...
>>734739310t. mailman
I love it when my cat with both williams syndrome and servant syndrome gets hit by the steven retardation ray
I have 100 hours in and am still on act 2. Can't get to The Moon because the Feline Invader(Meteor Crater!) keeps fucking me up so bad i get scared and run home bc i dont want to try and conquer a new area with 3 gattos 2 of which are on 1hp.Im close to having all 7's gattos and enough stimulation to reliably breed combos.My best cats have all 7's except for 1 + a nifty mutation that negates tiles effects.
>>734739310ice age's is worse, it's not even catchy. yes edmund you have mommy issues, we've only known this for the past two decades. the unga bunga lyrics are an improvement over the intelligible version.
>>734739478If you don't stand on his sides he won't machine gun your cats whenever you hit him. I dunno anon that boss is really easy.
>>734739478?You know Crater Maker counter attacks to sides? You do know you can cycle through its attacks by hitting? You do know you can choose not to attack it if it is in attack that won't harm you?
>>734739310It reminds this every time I hear it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgzACnYsV8U
>>734739605don't be rude
>>734739526Lord bunga with lyrics is one of my favorites. It's very catchy.
>>734739310Endless Misery encapsulates the themes of Mewgenics perfectly. I unironically think it's one of the best songs in the game because of how appropriate it feels. Making it the them of the absolutely unhinged lab was a great creative decision
>>734734314Once had a druid run where I got that mutation from a random event right after taking the heal/buff all allies skill. Then I was able to pivot him into frogs with the passive, that makes them cost less but die at the end of the turn. THEN I fucking got a disorder from an event that feared everyone adjacent when he ends his turn.At least I have the Bir- THEN BIRD-FUCKING-DEMIC.I am convinced the game hates druids. Still got a small use out of him with the frogs, just had to fucking remember to first summon them and then move away.
>>734739330>yeah thats me>you're probably wondering how I got here
>>734739478This reads like someone who doesn't actually play the game.
All of my nights, I'm charming catsAll of my days, I'm taking napsAnd in my dreams, I'm the queen of catsI will hunt you dooooooown!
>>734739319Reading is for pussycats
>>734739605>Roll the attack that nukes the entiee board>Have to hit him>6dmg>The attack that will devour my fighter>Hit him>6dmg>Attack that will hit 2 of my cats>Hit him>Attack that will nuke the board>Hit him>2 cats dead from blowbACK-
>>734739478>stay aways from the Crater Makers sides>hit him till he gets to the Consume attack where he only targets one tile and then wait/prepare for his round>don't step into that one tile If you learn his pattern it's not that hard
Got filtered by the music had to mute it to concentrate, too catchy
>>734739478>>734739943as someone who beat the game, crater maker is THE act 2 boss where you have to use your brain
>>734739980>>734739593>>734739605You're right. I think it's because i've been really drunk every day the past 2 weeks so i may have been playing and breeding like dogshit.I've enjoyed my time though.You're right.
>>734739708When the chorus goes>DJUJAJITAY JAJA DAODAO>DJUJAJITAY JAJA DAODAODAO>DJUJAJITAY JAJA DAODAO>DJUJAJIBAY DJUJAJIHA HIHAHIJA DJADJADJA I feel that
>>734726416>Stun>Immobilize >Feed a familiar to him, or maybe 20>Butcher diagonal hit him>Web/Entangle him>Shoot him from a distance I guess if it is your first time fighting Spewer blind you might die but even then he is not that bad. I go into acts with certain classes depending on which enemies I will face, I always go with good ranged shit on act 3 or even a good ruid will do.
>>734739943>attack that will devour my fighterDon't stand next to his mouth, ever. If you have 3-4 melee cats you just gotta keep the weaker ones back until you're able to finish him off. Also avoid spawning anything that make his attack cycles unpredictable.
>>734735368Something something read the enemies tooltips.
This thread is so greatI lurk around in my recliner
https://files.catbox.moe/odrvav.mp4wahwahwah
>>734737742I had a fight on impossible difficulty against gambit where the dice rolled 6 five or seven times in a row. I stopped trying to reroll it after that and just let it happen.
>Why can't I beat act 3 without high stats or breedingYou're doing a challenge run, nigga. You should expect problems if you don't level up or use the mechanics.
>nuclear gun>nat 20>peace symbol face paint>robot arms>fast handsone of the few times tinkerer carried the run
I come to these threads to feel better about myself cause holy shit some anons are retarded its majestic.
>>734739310for me it's So High. it's not about walking dead or poop or organs or weird smells, it's just generic smooth jazzi could probably show it to my mother and she'll like it (and that's a bad thing)
>>734726416I only fought him once so far, but it feels like the obvious answer to him if to just use long ranged lob-projectiles and Butcher's diagonal attacks to avoid being sucked in, or otherwise using familiars to bait the suck counter.I didn't know any of his gimmicks in my first fight and I still managed to face tank him just fine with a pretty average tank and Butcher build.
>>734738557
>>734740901Damn even the other cats want out
>>734740661>tfw the soundtrack doesn't include the lvl up/shop/events soundtrackshow hard could it be?
Beat Guillotina 3 on impossible in a single turn with a single cat. I now agree with Edmund's assessment that warrior has the highest power ceilinghttps://files.catbox.moe/kd2udn.mp4Accidentally made a god cat. Here's how it worked>William's Syndrome tanks my intelligence. This character has zero int.>can spam Think Too Hard to get a shitload of fury swipes on turn one. >Blood frenzy negated with tinfoil hat, now free (unneeded) turns>I popped a consumable wishbone, giving +99 luck for one turn. Guaranteed to crit.>But also, fury swipes is affected by luck, so I am guaranteed to hit 7 to 8 times.>I also have that passive that, when I deal more than ten damage in a single strike, I gain 2 armour and get to move again. >Because each hit of fury swipes deals more than 10 damage, you get truckloads of armour (that doesn't even matter because I win on my first fucking turn)
Reddit having a melty that Tyler said Mage is fine and players rely on the basic attack too much
>>734740661it's animal crossing speech. she's reading out all the ones but not the icon they stand for
>>734741176thanks redditor news but i'm pretty sure nobody askedif this game is anything like isaac the reddit is full of underage children anyway
Holy shit, if you can get a good freeze spell and shatter it kinda breaks the game. I'm going through Chaos realm, and he just 2 shotted a Dr. Beanies and Elite Dr. Beanies.
>>734741186Yeah, and it's cute
Any tips for someone stuck in Act 2?
what did edmund mean by this...?
>>734740503I got astroturf on my board
>>734740112I too thought he was complete bullshit until I realized I am just retarded, spread out my cats too much and attacked him when I had no need to.However, I think if you don't know his mechanics, the fight can feel BS and go south quickly.
>>734741469Use Druid, Hunter, tank, cleric
You think the DLC will make disorder breeding easier?It's total ass right now
I'm glad I'm going to 100% this before the community inevitably complains enough to get everything dumbed down
>>734741524Cats are carbivores, so being vegan is a disorder for them.They need meat to live.
>>734741568This but warrior not cleric
>>734739943>The attack that will devour my fighterLiterally don't stand in the middle square in front of it, Crater Maker is 3x3.>attack that nukes the entiee board, teice so soon after anotherThe attacks are in a cycle, they aren't random, you can predict which attack it's gonna roll next.
>>734726416Good morning. I HATE Spewer
>>734741176>use mage spell>costs 10 mana, deals 3 damage on 5 tiles with 1 stack of some shit status effect >but it has an element on top of that too, so you get to watch it not work against half the enemies in your current chapter :D
>>734741469Stuck as in "I don't know how to unlock more regions" or stuck as in "The skeletons of my cats litter the Desert and [Yournamehere] seems to be ascending into a semi-divine fleshbeast"? If you have like no items do a run or two just to the caves to start stocking up some good gear. Cleric is a great way to keep your cats healthy, since you can always sacrifice some round rewards to just patch everybody up. Really focus on looking for ability synergies and mouse over the enemies to see their descriptions. If you have Butcher unlocked they can absolutely carry you. Spamming lots of familiars with a druid or even necromancer can be a huge benefit since they'll tank hits for your cats.
>>734739478i get impatient for crater boss and though i win, i am too fucked up to continue.switched gears to the bunker/hell but goddamn that cat hugging bastard is a harder boss than the cultist brainiac
>>734741708>Start new file >Get One passive>Can consistently do a 30 damage AoE on Turn 2I get stuff like this all the time with Mage. Idk how other players struggle so hard to make something work.
>>734741551Anons please meThey never tease meI know they love my posts the way that they (you) them!I've got it made like a basket weaving mongAin't got no time for vidya anymooooore
>>734741176I mean it is annoying that mage has a line of sight basic attack, but the bigger issue is the unlikelihood of getting a good spell synergy. There's so much trash filling up their spell list making them inconsistent as fuck, and getting a really strong combo onpy once or twice out of 5 times isn't what people are looking for when choosing collars.
>>734741792I genuinely don't understand people who have trouble with Lenny, especially when the other miniboss option is way, WAY worse.
>>734741629Remind me what changes Edmund made for Isaac so it would be easier for scrubs
They should make it so every basic attack is a lob and utility spells are removed
>>734741640I had a cat that loved my mom's soup. Whenever she made some he would get a bowl and absolutely demolish that shit. Lived to 20+ and he was a gigantic gigachad who ruled over the entire street, mogged every other cat I knew
>>734741928Contrarians will tell you void portals in Basement and mantleless Lost were good, actually
>>734741928Wasn't there a whole expansion that was basically walked back on because of the community complaining? I remember something about enemy spawners early on
>The wiki keeps this on the trivia for Tracyholy based
>>734741568>DruidUh. I don't have that cat tag.
>>734742002Let me remind you that Afterbirth+ on launch had Womb bosses appearing in the Caves, Big Horn had boss armor, and Blastocysts in regular enemy rooms always spawned as the largest form.
PvP when?
>>734738557To be fair, I DO agree with house management being kind of sucky. Items and furniture are fine, but I really wish we could get a list view of all the cats. It's a lot better since the patch that always made them sort by age when you cycle through them in the stats viewer, but a proper list view where you can sort and filter by different stats would be really great. I get that it kind of goes against the chaotic vibe of being a crazy cat lady that the game is going for, but I think it really would improve the game overall.
>>734742145I will kill your cats, except for one female which I will charm and then leave with her.
>entire online community just complains about difficulty and class tier listsI'm glad Isaac didn't release during this era
>>734741629You can always install older versions anon. Sure, you need to not be a scrub and deal with the steam console, but you aren't a scrub and like a bit of challenge, right?
>>734740692is that the gun that has 20% chance of breaking every time you use it?
>>734742320The funny thing is I want to complain about the game being too easy. It can really stomp your nuts with death spirals if you're not careful, but once you figure out how to keep the cat warmachine oiled and running it's just steamrolling demigods left and right.
>>734742320Isaac is also full of tier lists and people complaining about difficulty too
>>734742347I play vanilla, no interest in mods or bandaid fixes
>>734742320The only thing people are right to complain about are the random unavoidable blood frenzy events
>>734742320People call me a larper if I say the game isn't hard or offer advice, so I just leave them to it.
>>734742320but that is exactly what happened and continues happening in isaac too
>>734739310HOW VERY QUEER
>>734742463No mods or bandaid fixes. Just install older versions. Steam allows you to install each version of a game if you know how to deal with their package system.
>>734742320type of players that bring a cleric every run and think it's S tier
>>734742509thisthe issue is that many people legitimately don't want to think when playing video games
>>734740867The vocals are exclusively about psychedelic drugs, though.
>>734742320More historical revisionism, Isaac always had tons of complaints and they actually and fixed a lot of it(Tainted Lazarus was borderline unplayable at launch for example).
>>734742613>do this external method tohow about I just get the default game to be made as intended
>>734737415Throbbing domain isn't even hard, it's not like you're going in againt chaos or something.
>>734726791>6 speed>his cats aren't all 7s by act 2fucking /v/ man you guys fucking suck dick at video games kill yourself
If you're the kinda nigga to defend the Isaac expansions at launch, then you're exempt from an opinion.Edmund doesn't get everything right the first time
Someone was ranting about collarless runs yesterday but the class passive unlocks lets you basically spec them into a class anyway
>>734742827filteredconsider eating less mcdonalds so you aren't getting filtered by pressing 8 buttons.
>>734742827Sorry I adapted to the games difficulty instead of needing it to be changed for me
>>734726848Brainstorm is too low tempo. On your 4th turn it might look good, but I'm barely get more than 2 rounds most encounters. I've had literal God-cats that line up 1000 damage on their second turn get carried by faster cats, and be seemingly useless until they shred the last boss.
>>734742320I haven't watched any Mewgenics streams or gameplay, but I'm sure the people who complain the most are the same ones holding R in Isaac or saying "OH YOU JUST HAVE TO HOPE YOU GET THE BEST ITEMS".
>>734742809I've never once bought food and the game is still easy as fuck lol
>>734726749>Is future harder?Not harder but you have to play around the fact enemies have some annoying invulnerabilities. Ice Age is probably the hardest Act 3 stage
>>734739310RIGHT ON YOUR NUTS AND ON YOUR NIPPLES
>>734742862We need the spawner portals in Basement 1 back.
>>734742902Probably. Lot of people completely disregard all the synergies and breeding that completely trivializes the game. I genuinely think there are players that make their entire builds around nothing but the basic attack
>>734742910>Ice Age is probably the hardest Act 3 stageMost of the enemies just kill themselves? Cavemen men and catsAnd none are ranged so you can just wait for them and burst them full manaAlso, if you got a ranger they are just free kills
>>734743006>Basement 1>Not on Greed mode's legendary 8 portal spawner round
better finish the game now before a patch nerfs everything to the ground
The difference between this game and Isaac is that you have infinite time to make your decisions so those finding it difficult are exposing their intelligence
Can't believe people get filtered by infinite misery
>>734726749>>Cats have like 3 or 4 7s at most>>Some still have 4sThat's still better than what most people have going into act 3 for the first time. You can't use the breeding autists who bumrush an all-7s cat for act 1 as your baseline.
>>734740867anon the "high" in the song isn't about altitude, the entire song is about drugs.how did you miss>Pop a pill and take a trip
>>734743169>What the glass cannon character got the LITERAL BEST DEFENSIVE (Instawin with any battery) item removed?>The glitched crown """""""nerfs"""""""Shitters are always so funnyYou wouldnt last a day with OG T. Laz
>if a kitten has at least a nat 7 + inherited passive they go in the good cat room>if not they go to gay baby jailIt's not hard
>>734739310Tasteless swine
>>734743247>duhhh I have to make good cats in the cat breeding games for the final act? wtf bro..How hard is it to put high numbers in the same room together? How are people struggling with this?
>>734743193>Some still have 4sPay attention to your mutations. There are some that reduce one stat and boost the other. Some of these are alright, but any mutation that reduces speed or health should be weeded out with extreme prejudice
>>734743276I assume they meant how easy it is to assemble autowin cats right now.Merciless one turning everything in the game is already confirmed on getting nerfed
oops, all druids
>>734743726Make a boy band party
It kind of annoys me how much thief's kit is just shit for making money when I basically already hit the money cap every run without one and have had pretty much unlimited money since like 20 hours in.
>>734743029Disregarding the synergies and turn order It's probably the worse offender on any chapter, a lot of people that don't play this sort of games play by just doing "forward, attack, tank"
>>734743837yeah that really needs to be fixed or at least he should have more pay to win skills
>>734743837i understand the money cap existing because if you got an infinite for money then you would just grind it out for 3 hours and get a million bucksit would probably be much better if the max 99 cap was put in place for each combat instead of the entire run, maybe lower it to 25 even, so you get incentivized to actually give a single fuck about the coin tiles in each fight
>>734743615Okay but what does that have to do with endless misery
>>734743837I get the money stuff very rarely. Usually when I play thief I get stuff that boosts crit damage/rate and I just rape bosses turn 1
>>734743726How did you get did you get double extra Collies? Asking for a friend.
>thief has pierce+bullseyeI wish there wassome kind of animation for getting multikills with a single attack
>*Gives you 20 mana*Enjoy bro
>>734743837Money's a bigger deal in hard mode and up, where stores sell rarer items for higher prices.
Is there an achievement or anything for clearing a boss with one cat? I'm pretty sure I can do it but I'm not sure I want to risk it.
>>734744578why don't you check the achievements list and see for yourself?
>>734733674Has anyone finished the game yet? I want to get the DLC but I'm still nowhere near finishing yet
>>734743837The "money" part of their kit is more about using coins to teleport/buff themselves/throw coins as an attack
>>734744269Thanks, you kinda look slightly retarded though. No offense
>Don't bother with Monk for hours after I unlock it because I figure it'd just be a half-assed version of either Fighter/Butcher or Hunter depending on the form>Decide to finally take a crack at it while I'm running through Act 1 again to complete both the Ultra Vision and that dice sidequest at onceWait this guy actually fucking rocks, chaining together attacks is insanely fun and the damage isn't half bad either. I lucked into getting that swirly eyed mutation that applies Confuse on Basic Attacks, on top of it being a a high charisma cat that landed on both Dancing Lights and Combo Pull so I was dishing out a shitton of extra damage a turn while also utterly debilitating bosses. This class is apparently super reliant on passives and abilities (didn't know both the weapon and trinket slots were fixed before using it, whoops) so I was even at a disadvantage using it with the Dice item and it still ended up strong. Consider me a believer
>>734744793im an maeg : )
>>734744731Define finishing
>>734744269Which cat class has the best idle animation and why is it necro?
>>734735872For what purpose?
>>734744578only the loner sidequest forces you to play with one cat, and even then you can bring necromancers along with downed abilities if you wantor combine it with angry face like a redditor to make it free and boringfunctionally all that solo runs do is give you checkmarks as a neat cosmetic reward, but personally i think the X mark for running 4 of one class is more funny. i wish i could have both and not have to choose between one or the other for a save file
>move bonded couple to fight room because one picked up a bad mutation>the female instantly kills the male
>>734744848Haha what's your intelligence at?
>>734744737I guess, but I usually only get one or the other when it comes to generation and usage skills, so it feels kind of bad most of the time.
>>734743837I had the opposite problem. I need money and kept equipping thief but they just got assassin abilities that were mostly useless due to their squishiness.
>lose cat to daddy shark>immediately savescumI'm not sorry, this enemy is FUCKING BULLSHIT.
>>734744809Monk has some pretty insane skills that synergize really well with each other yeah, but they made their base attack weaker to balance them.If you replace their basic attack by breeding some skill/passive from other classes then they probably are better fighters.Also their skills are just really fun thematically, I did not expect Edmund of all people to make a Monk class that actually lets you do all the cool chuuni shit instead of your usual monks that just do boring punches.
I think a new ranged class will be a bone chucker because throwing bones are not represented in a class, I'm talking about the ones that the skeletons and bumblefoot throw in an arc. Bumblefoot inflicts bruise with his so I can see a new mechanic being temporary bruise where the bone guy can inflict that for the rest of the turn for whoever attacks next. I don't think gunslinger will happen because tinkerer kinda represents that already. Maybe whatever rocky bobo and pebbles are will be a new class.
>>734744882Jester floss.
I dislike how the game makes you unlock higher difficulties gradually because my checklist stickynote autism feels like the runs before the hardest difficulty are just wastes of time
>>734745261Have you tried not walking you cats into a blender
>>734744660Because I have 134 hidden achievements and it would spoil a ton of story stuff to look them all up on a website.>>734744971That helps a lot, thank you. I might still try it, just because I think Quiche can do it by soul-linking Guillotina (third undead form) and go injury-turbo mode to stack leeches and poison.
>>734745261>this enemy will FUCKING KILL your cat!>let the cat get hitwoooooooooooooooooooooooow
>get "stray cat crying" event>failed escape option says "next combat is an ambush">next combat is a miniboss>a tom-tom is there, but it doesn't trigger an "ambush">finish the combat, go hard path>NOW the ambush triggers, without the tom-tomokay?
>>734745289The monk skill that lets him spawn AI controlled copies of himself is insane and was the only reason I managed to beat chaos on my first attempt. Its upgraded version even lets them cast spells.
>>734745289I lucked into Way of the Mantis just spreading like wildfire through my cats. Monks are great as combat classes and inheritance parents.
>get fist of fate on bruise monkholy shit this is strong>upgrade makes it do multiple hitsholy shit that sounds busted, it must be a low chance right>hits like 5 times each useMonks might be the best class in the game for that one spell
>>734745553monks would be SSS+ tier if I didnt keep fucking rolling the passive that makes their melee skills severely gimped by adding wind to them
>>734745553for me it's Hamster Style+
>Monk has tourette's syndrome>His tourette's randomly activates AI clone>The clone's tourette's activates AI clone>The clone's clone's...
>Had 6 shots saved for Lord Bunga EAT SHIT NIGGA
Giving a backstab thief Fury Swipes feels so fucking good bros
>hitler babies use fury swipes>adult hitler clones use fuhrer swipesbest joke setup in the game
>>734745553I had a monk that essentially 1(0)-Punch-Man'd Chaos by having that bruise ability and hundred hand slap. It kept compounding and the final slaps were hitting for around 40.
>makes your useless cats/abilities/weapons have insane setup valueno need to thank me
>>734745553Best part is it's all basic hits so it applies EVERYTHING you have related to basics. Tried it on a fighter with soul link on basics and it was brutal even without upgrade because it's a miser 5 mana cost.
>>734745698U know u can just attack him while he's on the throne right
>>734745938Yeah, that's what the fighter was doing while I saved shots and the cleric and butcher were killing the other two,
>>734726416First of all Spewer is literally baby tier easy, if you lose to him your cats just sucked dick my real problem with your post is>otherwise well designed gameIts padded out as fuck by needing a stupid amount of cats to upgrade shit AND having to share retired cats between butch and frank alongside a slew of other things>Get to new act>Do first level, ace it>ok now go home>no despite these cats being good enough to molest the rest of the act you have to go home now just uuuuuh just because ok????>repeat for 2nd acts of other routes in itI'm 80 hours with only the last part of act 3 to go and its kind of tiresome at this point, the 99 coin cap on runs is shit and only exists to make sidequests seem like a good idea because they give more money.I really do like the game but it would genuinely be much better if the required cats for most basic features like storage/cat info/housing were slashed by 50-80% or something.
>There's a birth defect where your cats have no mouth>And there's one where they have no eyes, eyebrows, maybe you can have everything missing.I think it might have to become my personal goal/challenge to breed myself into a line of faceless smooth-cats.
>>734746082OP is baiting or genuinely mindfucked by the little bastard, either way it's better to ignore them
>>734746082this is the guy who made you beat isaac like 15 times before getting to do a single "complete" run, and that's if you know exactly what to do in order to progressit's a miracle someone finally convinced him to make the void portal spawns guaranteed instead of random chance
>>734745553That's how I killed God, while my other cats were down. It's especially poetic because the monk was carried by the other cats up until that point.
>>734745553I instantly beat C 1000 doing this, I don't know what his mechanics even are
>>734727336Dybbuk is pretty easy, I just wish you didn't have to down tour own unit to undo the posession. It sucks to have to get a mandatory stat down, or worse lose a unit if you have effects like exploding corpses on
>Zaratana is extremely weak to Eat Rock>See people solo kill with a lvl 0 rock eater>Cats that never adventured get normal retired status when defending the house>Breed a whole family of rock eaters>Spam Zaratana raids to speedrun retired rock eater cats>Avalanche of retired cats for Frank for easy maxed houseLet me know.
>>734745698Be kind, hes a stand up guy
I feel so stupid for only now realizing the first chapter minibosses are based on the class colars.
>>734746638Bro it's like that in every act
do not go into c-1000 with any kind of soul link ability. just dont. i learned the hard way
>>734744971Leeches > Maggots
I GOT TO BE TOUGHTHIS BOARD IS SO ROUGH GOT TO BE TOUGH, TOUGH, TOUGH
About to go the infinity for the first time, anything I should know?
>>734746638>Magnus uses Bullrush+ and spin>Fenrir uses bear traps>Maisie has unlimited bodyguards and can lick her kittens to give them bonus stats (which iirc is a cleric skill)>Lucy is fucking worthless and just dies without doing anythingThe minibosses really capture the essence of each class,very nice
>>734747087You will be fighting God and he has Guppy's head. He will get rid of his shield once you get his HP low enough. He also revives your downed units because he's a cool guy
>>734747087If you should die, before you wake, I'll keep your soul in the palm of my hand.
>>734747087the enemy stages are harder than the boss take your time reading the descriptions and thread carefully
>tina 3 refight>body gets a speed buff>hit the head and it immediately attracts the body across the map>mama maggot that spawns from the body has speed buffs toodecade of development? yeah right
>>734747087Shield bypass is pretty useful for the normal fights because there's gonna be a lot of holy shields.
Just like my japanese cartoons
>watch me read this guy's mind>.... it's just a slur repeating over and over
>>734747562Damn brat...!
>>734747562heart butt...
>>734747602>... it's just marshmallow repeating over and over
>>734739310I don't like it because its too mean to cats :(The rest of the game is all cartoony about it and then that song (that you're forced to listen to every time you play through) talks about torturing them horribly :((Worst song because its just too edgy honestly, fuck it. I hate it. Fuck you steakmund you retard you can't just throw some "le mailman XDDDD so quirky" lines into the garbage trash and try to make it ok.
>>734747602>Alice reads Anon's mind>He's just thinking about sex with Alice
>>734739310this nigga doesn't like showtunes
>>734747602>.... it's just him wanting to pet cats
sometimes you'll get a space that says something like >[cat] feels like an outcast and is now traveling a little further away from the partydo those actually do anything?
>>734747949you would assume it makes them start further from the team at the start of the battle but as far as I can tell it does literally nothing and it's just an empty event
>>734747913These threads could never survive Junipurr being in the game
>>734747949no, those and the "misses mother" and "wants to go home" events are just flavor
>>734747949It's a free pass eventBe glad it didn't give you aids
do you actually need complete a hard run to unlock crazy mode for an act or can you just spam summoning the hard raid boss until you beat all 3 of them?
>>734748013if marshmallow charms at least 1/5 posters then juripurr would seduce every 1/3 poster in this thread, given she's a special type of cat that has a special disorder that gives her a fat fucking ass.
>>734748142Wonder what kind of effects that would give
>>734748316Flat damage % based reduction when the cat gets hurt from behind.
>>734748316+1 con -1 spe charms and bounces back any enemy that backstabs the cat
>>734748573actually make that +1 con, +1 charm, -1 spe and -1 int
we did it /v/eddit
>>734748846tranny-coded art.
>>734732103Tinkerer's only shit aspect is no basekit ability to gain tech. The class is actually pretty great with most of it's abilities having value on their own as long as you got a tech ability. Something that you can breed into your cats.Mage is the meme class where mana battery is the only viable build. Most of the elemental abilities should just be deleted for being so useless. Mage, Necromancer and Druid make you feel the rage of this game not giving rerolls to setup their builds
>>734748846cute
>don't even like druid that much but keep breeding Feral onto all my melee catswhat a tasty fucking passive to start with
>>734748949Tech isn't even good, Tinkerer is a meme.At least mage has strong support skills and a fe boss-busting ones.
>>734748846cute...
