All of the tech gurus on youtube told me that SteamOS was an upgrade to windows. I traded in my Rog Ally X for a Legion Go S which came with SteamOS. I installed all my favorite games but I kept getting error messages saying that I failed anticheat verification. I looked into it, apparently I need windows to play the games I want. I thought SteamOS was an upgrade and I’m too tech illiterate to install windows myself.Am I out $500 + trade-in?
Yes
>>734789326SteamOS won't be good until the gabecube drops and gets regular updates.Ill use it on pc if it reaches my expectations.
>>734789326Linux actually sucks for video games. Whodathunk.
>>734789326>All of the tech gurus on youtube told me that SteamOS was an upgrade to windows.Do your own research instead of biased sources. People on /v/ shilling Linux and people on youtube saying "You're an IDIOT for using windows. Here's why Linux is better" are not the best sources of information. They don't play games. Linus Tech Tips is a cuck who makes videos about tech, not games. >I failed anticheat verificationMost new AAA games use kernel level anticheat which is incompatible with anything but WindowsA lot of games take lots of tinkering to get running on Linux (SteamOS). People who shill these will talk about how good Linux is for emulation. So is my phone. It's good for indie games and things that are very light loaded but when it comes to bigger games, you'll have issues.
>>734789326>be OP>listen to their advice that it pays to be informed>don't inform myself>when do I get paid?
>>734789326>Another one fell for the "Linux gets 20 more FPS than Windows" meme
>>734789326>>734789956Also this is someone who ran Mint for a year because I hated Windows' privacy issues but as a gamer, it's one evil over another. Either my $4k gaming rig sits here playing indie games while my mates all play games without me or I do my best to remove as much of Windows as I can so I can actually play the games I bought on the computer I built. Linux is EXCELLENT for anything but gaming and even then, things are usually a lot easier to do on Windows. >Windows>Download .exe>Double click>Install>Done>Linux>Find the distro you run or the derivative of your distro>There's 4 command lines you gotta copy paste>One doesn't work>Spend 2 hours trying to figure out why>People calling you an idiot left and right because the OS doesn't work the way you expectLinux is not for gaming. Simple
>>734789803Steamies are no different from nintendies.
>>734790313SteamOS has a chance to be good since they have the funding and is game oriented. I will remain hopeful for now because everything else is shit
>>734790185>There's 4 command lines you gotta copy paste>One doesn't work>Spend 2 hours trying to figure out why>People calling you an idiot left and right because the OS doesn't work the way you expectIt always turned out to be an abandoned project. None of the old projects were worth keeping alive so someone else always made a new one from scratch even if it was meant to do the same thing.
>>734789326you could have just installed it on the ally x
>>734790405>SteamOS is Arch-based>Install Arch>gain all the same benefits of SteamOS and moreIt’s like this whole thread is tech illiterate
>>734790523Installed what? It came with windows.
>>734790557>gain all the same benefits of SteamOS and moreThe equivalent of >Lamborghini is based on having 4 wheels>Buy a chassis with 4 wheels>Gain all the benefits of a lamborghini and moreRetarded post. Rethink your existence.
>>734790619Yeah but if you install arch, you can use it freely without wondering what valve did to it while you’re trying to compile shit, RETARD
>>734789326Idk if it transfer but the sleep and play button is kino
>>734790557lmao steamOS will support drivers and web shit, it'll be windows without the spyware
>>734790609Not very bright, are you OP?
have you tried not liking shit games?
>>734789956>They don't play gamesYes we do. Idk why you fags get mad at the OS for the game devs not supporting it.For instance: league of legends runs on mac os without riot's (chinese) rootkit. They could do like From did with elden ring, or Microsoft themselves did with MCC where they work on Linux WITH EAC. Nah, gotta have a kernel level rootkit or bust, except mac users get a free pass.
>>734789326It is less that it is steamos and more that it is linux which sucks dick if you want to play games.
>>734791241Oh no, anon, no, I'm sure the guy having a melty over worthless dogshit online of the month is an avid game consumer, if he's even a real person and not the horde of poojeet marketers unleashed here after the deck was a hit.
>>734789326It's fantastic and I enjoy mine. No, I don't play sloppa that needs anticheat (BF6, siege, fortnite?) Essentially, most of those anticheat systems do have a Linux toggle, but those respective owners (EA, Ubisoft, etc) choose not to enable it. Whatever
>>734791070I tried playing older games, but they didn’t have native controller support. sure I could use the steam controller overlay but it doesn’t magically make wasd work with an analog stick the way that it should. Some classic gems had native controller support but the control scheme was entirely different than the console release. One game demanded that I choose strictly between either m+k or gamepad which made creating a decent controller configuration impossible. I finally settled on playing more recent titles, and we all know new games are woke.
>>734789326unironically play better games
I use mine to play single player games made before 2021, and it's good for that. I run into compatibility issues with some games that are 15+ years old, but there's usually a work around.
>>734791403>Some classic gems had native controller support but the control scheme was entirely different than the console releaseSo... not a linux problem?
Windows FSE is honestly pretty good. I haven't had to enter desktop mode for weeks now.
>>734791571No it was a linux problem because I can’t play new games because of the OS and I can’t play old games because of the software. Are you illiterate?
>>734791593That’s such a stupid name. You can tell they were aiming for the lowest common denominator by calling it Full Screen Experience.
>>734791403>I tried playing older games, but they didn’t have native controller support. sure I could use the steam controller overlay but it doesn’t magically make wasd work with an analog stick the way that it should.Yes, it does. >Some classic gems had native controller support but the control scheme was entirely different than the console release.Most console port control schemes were fucked, this is not necessarily a problem. And if you're so autistic you need to match it, just look up the manual. >One game demanded that I choose strictly between either m+k or gamepad which made creating a decent controller configuration impossible. How so? You just bind the buttons to keys.
>>734791763Then I wouldn’t have analogous controls, would I? If I move the joystick 10 degrees to the left, will my avatar go in that direction?
>>734791854Can you name this game old enough to not have native controller support but expect analog control?
>>734791897ass creed 2
>>734791961(samefag)ass creed 1 wouldn’t even work on my machine, I settled for ass creed 2 and figured it was the less jewish, more patrician choice but it had the most god awful controls and I really wanted analog. It’s ass creed
>>734791961https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_II#InputYou're not lying to me, are you anon?
>>734791683>Are you illiterateYou literally just stated that the PC port of the game had differing controls than the console version, in support of the argument that this is a Linux problem. Now, if this was a linux problem (please clarify) you can get some pointers from protondb, or maybe googling "X game Y issue proton".I play old games all the time on linux (such as bg1/2, dungeon siege 1/2, morrowind, etc)I play newer games (DRG, elden ring, space marine 2, all in 4kHDR)I have never had minor issues like that prevent me from playing a game. At most I have issues with every other nvidia firmware release breaking java 8 minecraft in opengl, or issues like I stated before where devs intentionally make it not work on linux.
>>734791854Have you checked out just how much granularity steam input gives you? You really should, it works great on linux and I'm sure it's the same on windows.
>>734791341>Ah linux is great! I have so much freedom!>I can't play this>Why would you wanna do that?Sure. Freedom.
>>734789891why?
>>734789326did you install the linux version of those games?
>>734792236As in freedom from developing Malaria. And there we have it, is is indeed the paid for poojeet gang implying everyone is just dying to fall for live service scams on 4channel.
>>734792236>I can't play this>because the developer explicitly didn't want this to run on linux>this is Linus Torvald's fault, certainly
>>734791403Damn nigga, you dumb as shit.
>>734792417>Come on vidoegames board>People wanna play video games>Shill something that can't play the video games they want>Are you indian? lololo>>734792449Never said it was his fault, I'm just saying Linux isn't good for gaming when Windows works perfectly fine. Give me a single reason why Linux is better than gaming
>>734789326imagine if you had done about 20 seconds of research
>>734792051Maybe you didn’t understand when I wrote:>One game demanded that I choose strictly between either m+k or gamepad which made creating a decent controller configuration impossible.>>734792113It’s a linux problem because I can neither play new games that DO have controller support because they are borked and resorting to old games doesn’t work because they DON’T have optimal controller support if at all (i.e. dead rising 2). You see, I would rather play new games but when that fails, I look to other games, sometimes older yet those don’t work how I’d like them to. A lot of new games today have really good controller support while old games don’t and any (i.e. mass effect). The source of my dilemma initially comes from linux being incompatible with new games.
>He fell for the troonix sweet little liesYup, Retard tax
>>734792779Wait, what point are you even trying to make here? You have working controller support, if you need M+K inputs to work simultaneously and the game denies them, that's happening on Windows too.
>>734789326you have goyslop taste in videogames, faggot
>>734789326>All of the tech gurus on youtube told meLol. Had they ever been relevant? I feel no one's watching them anymore for their advises.
>>734792698Why do they insist upon Linux so much, can they not use GRUB? Do they not know they can duelboot? Why does it have to be an ultimatum? Can I not have both? Wouldn’t that be the /g/ thing to do? It’s like steam fanboys are no different from apple fanboys and linux vs windows is the same as 360 vs ps3. They’re different and having both as well as the verity of the two is better than a single one of the two.
>>734792974My point is that I would be playing something else if Linux didn’t bar me from playing the game>inb4 it’s the devs barring you from playing the gameno ID no service
>>734792698>Never said it was his faultYou pretty much do when you claim the fault lies with the OS for the game not working and not with the developer of said game.Steam and wine have been working together for the past 11 years to make sure that all the system calls Windows can do are replicable on proton. There are three possible reasons why a Windows game would not work on proton:1. It's too new. Solution: wait a few days or try a proton fork such as cachy or GE2. it's an old/obscure game with a call that no one has bothered to fix yet. Solution: submit a bug report or pull request (this is how everything in linux gets fixed because it's a community effort)3. The game dev explicitly programs the game to not run on linux, such as by requiring a kernel level rootkit, or by programming a hard stop when proton layer is detected. Solution: get mad at the devs because LINUX DIDN'T CAUSE YOUR ISSUE. Ask why your game dev is retarded.
>>734792698>I want to play FortniteWell? Are you?
>>734793076NTA, but every single modern game I've ever tried on Linux was, at worst, just swapping the proton version and MAYBE looking it up on ProtonDB. This sounds like its either a very hyper specific problem to whatever game you're trying to play, also a problem on Window, you're a retard, or you're being disingenuous.
>>734793027You cannot dualboot reliably without dedicating a whole drive for Windows as it's malware and will periodically overwrite the boot sector without asking.
>>734792779>linux being incompatible with new games.You keep saying this. Can you list said games so I can look them up on protondb just to find they're rated gold/plat?
>>734793027>Can I not have both? Wouldn’t that be the /g/ thing to doThe /g/ thing isn't dual boot, it's VM's
>>734793229Bro, are you ok? Did you not understand what I’ve been saying this entire time. The only games that run on linux are old and don’t have modern controls, the new games with modern controls don’t run on linux. So whether I play a new game, or an old game on a steamos powered handheld, I will have a less than optimal way of playing the game as opposed to windows or console. You seriously might be autistic. I wouldn’t even have tried playing these old unc ahh games if not for everything else being borked
>>734793364I love Rainbow 6, my dad’s a cop
>>734793437>Did you not understand what I’ve been saying this entire timeNo, frankly, I don't because I told you I'm sitting here able to play both new and old games on linux, with full controller support. This is why I have asked you to list the games you can't get to work and I can help you and make fun of you.
>old unc ahh gamesokay, so you were trying to play fortnite, valorant, league, destiny 2, siege, and call of duty
>>734793364Battlefield 1
>>734793485>I love Rainbow 6, my dad’s a copAlready covered this in part 3 of >>734793229
>>734793548Can you play Dead Rising 2 with a controller without plugins or steam’s overlay thingy??
>>734793612I already covered this>>734793076You really are illiterate
>>734793636Can you play games on Windows with a controller without xinput libraries or a controller wrapper thingy?
>>734793719idunno, steam reviews for DR2 doesn’t suggest it can be done
>>734793670>waaah linux BARRED me from playing the gameI'm the illiterate one? No, the DEV of the game barred you from playing it on linux. They explicitly went out of their way to make sure of that. Because, again, plenty of developers do use anticheat on linux. Like fromsoft. Like microsoft, even.
>>734793636>without steam’s overlay thingyAnd we're excluding this because? This is sounding more and more like a "what's 2+2 and don't tell me it's 4" situation.
>>734793882No ID, No service
>>734793993>No ID, No servicelinux?>>734793636Look, the community had these same issues before you, figured things out on their own, and posted their solutions online. Have you tried these community recommendations?
>>734794097That would be so fucking cool if I still had Linux installed. I found my old copy of Windows 7
>>734794173>leaves an linux to play his rootkit sloppa on windows>has to post about how mad he was about the experience online because he couldn't even search google and click the first resultYou're absolutely fine man, you probably should just stick with windows at this point
>>734789326>but I kept getting error messages saying that I failed anticheat verification.>>734789891>Linux actually sucks for video games. Whodathunk.you know I find it pretty lame that>I can't play war thunder and apex legends!!!!is your best argument. Ok, take them. Windows exclusives. Stick to windows. Have fun. Stay there. Doesn't bother me. But it's so dishonest. I mean, you DO know the only reason that they don't work on linux is because the anticheat developers actively develop it to fail linux compatibility instead of allowing it to run on it, right? It takes active work from desk jockeys for your strawman to even function as a strawman. It's hilarious. Yeah stick to windows, it's fine. Just don't claim it's our problem.
>he fell for the Troonix meme
>734794173>retard still complains modern games dont run on Linux despite being proven wrong>installs an 18 year old OS that actually cant run modern games without 50 manually applied workarounds per gameSasuga, retard-kun.
>>734794301Why wouldn’t I? The games just work. Oh and these are UMPCs. You can put whatever OS you want on them.
>>734794307 No ID, No service
>>734794454>No ID, No serviceNot an argument
>>734789326you sound retarde. you should probably just sell it and go back to consoles.
>>734794631Why would he? Windows beats both consoles and Protonix.
>>734792858>No repliesSounds about right
>>734789326To enjoy the upgraded operating system you also need to upgrade towards playing better games
>>734794808Any recommendations that aren't indie or emulation?
>>734794594It’s not your game, is it? Does it even have the MIT license?
>>734789891Linux is objectively better for video games than windows at this point. Kernel level anti-cheat cancer is on the developers explicitly not allowing linux to run it because linux actually respects you as a user and knows kernel level garbage is bullshit.
>>734789326>he actually fell for the linux memengmi
>>734794880>Binding of Isaac>Bastion>Hollow Knight>Pizza Tower>Celeste>Balatro>Brotato>Vampire Survivors>Expedition 33
>>734794960>Linux is objectively better for video games than windows at this pointCan you explain how without mentioning anti-cheat? How about ease of use? Functionality? My switch pro controller works instantly on windows but I had to download like 3 or 4 drivers on Mint and it still didn't work lmao. "Objectively." Objectively better is double clicking a game and it works with no extra steps. No compatibility layers, no wineprefix, no opening terminal. Explain how giving a process extra steps with a high potential to fail makes it "objectively better"
>>734795037All those work on Windows.
>>734794754>beatsIn terms of negligibly more games? Sure.In terms of not installing a literal rootkit? No
>>734794960I tested doom the dark ages on both cachy using its proton build and on windows and it was much smoother on windows.
>>734795058>Arma mac/linux
>>734795037>No indie games>Gives me a list of indie gamesAren't balatro and vampire survivors on mobile too? Why would I want to play phone games on my PC? Do Linux users really only play mobile game tier games?
Will the Steam Deck ever be restocked or Valve will just focus on the Gabecube and pretend it never existed?Should I go for a Legion Go S thanks to the Deck disappearing overnight?
>>734795050Better fps, better older game compatibility at this point, and the os isn't actively dicking you every second in the background.
>>734795058Oh shit, no way!? I didnt know that. That fucking crazy dude, amazing addition to the conversation.
>>734795084You’re less than 1% of the market. They’re not going to bend their knee to your whim.
>>734795140Go for Rog Ally X or MSI Claw.
>>734795201>Better FPSI had an unfixable stutter playing CS2 that isn't present on windows. I also couldn't play half the games I wanted to with my friends. No Xbox app means I couldn't join on Forza Horizon 5. I also needed 2 separate programs just to have my racing wheel work and even then, it didn't have 100% of its features customizable.
When they added anticheat to GTAO I had to quit playing itI EVENTUALLY got singleplayer mods to work with an extremely dumb trick (Lutris is apparently superior to Proton when it comes to .NET installers)
>>734795050>MintTry a rolling-release distro next time. Mint and other Debian based distros are by design a year or two behind the curve. And bazzite/cachy come preconfigured with pretty much any gaming compatibility layer you might need.Honestly sounds like you need to do your research. If you're not motivated to figure out your own OS on your own computer why do you expect strangers online to be?
>>734795140Are you special needs? You do realize that you could get a Z2 with a better screen for a better price elsewhere, right?
literally never had anti cheap issues on my steam deck what kind of f2p jew scams are you playing
why has nobody told him he can easily install windows 11 on to it. its just a compuyer
>>734795258I've had the opposite experience. So glad I switched and I am never going back. Windows has blown ass for over a decade, it never should have moved beyond W7.
>>734795205We're above 3% and rising. More than mac OS, which is supported by more of these live service games than linux is because the devs are retarded.
>>734795427Excluding india?
>>734795450Higher for English only, idk if there's a by country report somewhere
>>734795450
>>734795520>on steamback to the steam chart thread with you
>>734795568Why? I thought steam had a monopoly? I haven't been arguing with Timmy this whole time, have I?
>playing games with kernel-level anticheat
>>734795140You should be scrambling to secure anything at all, all that stagnant stock of UMPCs will start flying once people realize how over things are.
>>734795568>noooo you can't just show the stats from the platform responsible for bringing linux gaming to the masses noooookek here you are again with the 2+2 "don't say 4" bullshit
Can't you install steam os on the rog x?
>>734796171Yes, OP has brain problems.
>>734796171You can install SteamOS on anything with an AMD CPU/GPU combo, but you'd be better off with Bazzite/Nobara/CashyOS on devices that arent officially supported.
>>734789326I did something similar recently. I love SteamOS:>Suspend & Resume = instant>EmuDeck installation = couple clicks>Battery & Performance = betterBut yeah, Kernel Anti Cheat Games won't work, but normal Anti Cheat Games just werk. But I don't really play competitive on a Handheld. The only thing that pissed me off: Installing cracked Games, but all I had to do was to add them as non-steam game. And you should check out the store, it's crazy how many things are actually available with 1 click installations.
>>734796529installing cracked games is the easiest shit ever, what are you talking about
>>734797090Yea but I didn't know about the non-steam game method or lutris. Now it's easy to install repacks
I fell for the meme too. Bought a Deck, realized every game was a sub 720p nightmare or incompatible with Proton. Bought a Windows chinkheld later on. Haven't looked back one second.
>>734794880tell me you hate videogames without telling me you watch moviegame walking simulators and/or fpslop
>>734797835>>734797903lmao
>>734795427>above 3% and risingTroonix literally flatlined to 2% in the last steam survey. Update your cope chart sis
>>if you play any other game but FOMO indieslop by liberal douche director, you're plebeianDeck cucks really reaching for their last straws.
The OG Rog Ally is cheaper than Deck, has superior display, performance and OS. No reason to get a shitty Deck in 2026. It was barely ever relevant even in 2022.
>>734790693>Windows is spyware >Steam requires InternetHuh?
>>734798325>Implying that you can only play gaymes on st*am.I got all my games and roms backed up on my NAS. I just transfer them to my Troonix PC and install them in Lutris for example. Everything without internet ...
>>734797835Why do you people just go on the internet and tell lies?
>>734798709Do you want me to show you the receipts?
>>734798889Sure. Post which liveservice streambait slop you play too because those are basically the only games that are incompatible at this point
>>734798991>uhhhh you can't just play your online games without daddy Gaben's approvalFuck off
>>734799138Concession accepted
>>734799138Receipt?
>>734798138It does that every February before bumping back up
>>734795050>How about ease of use? Functionality? My switch pro controller works instantly on windows but I had to download like 3 or 4 drivers on Mint and it still didn't work lmao.I knew almost nothing about Linux, I just went to /g/ and asked what's a good normie-friendly distro that offers a SteamOS-like experience and someone said Ultramarine KDE and I just shrugged and went with that and never looked back since. Not to say it doesn't have its issues, but all the drivers and codecs simply came out of the box, and any device I plugged in worked immediately. I can't say anything about a Switch pro controller, but my bootleg PS4 controller just werks, my drawing tablet just werks, my audio devices just werk, I can even plug in an old iPhone and transfer videos directly into its file system without requiring Apple software. I'm simply amazed by the ease of use and functionality that I'm experiencing now compared to what I had to deal with on Windows. For me it's objectively better, if that's not the case for you then sorry that your distro sucks, I guess.In terms of games, maybe there are some that don't work but I haven't encountered any, the games I play either already natively support Linux or work through Proton, and Steam handles that for me so I hardly ever have to think about it.
>>734795050Mint isn't really made for gaming and so its kind of mediocre for it at best. You should really try Nobara or CashyOS. I personally use Nobara and any controller I've tried has worked, even the Switch 2 controller worked better on Nobara than Windows. (It still didn't work well enough to use at the time though)
