Do you enjoy it so far?
>censorednah
>>734867263yeah is pretty good. At first I was really bummed about the difficulty but after understanding how to upgrade the camera everything got good.Anyone knows what NG+ bring ?On the obligatory topic of censorship, I'm a bit disappointed that there are only 4 outfits, I don't care about revealing ones but I'd like more of those thingsAlso, where I'm at right now, the encounter rate has gotten really crazy with 9 battles in 15 minutes which is a bit too much (I'm in what I assume is an optional area tho)
>>734867263>fight starts>instant leer drains my stamina>immediately goes into dark return/aggravated state>take 10 minutes to get their health down>dark returns againNo I'm already tired of playing it. If they only got aggravated once I'd tolerate it, but with how it is now every encounter just takes forever. Shills were saying the changes make this version "harder" but really it just makes things take longer, which isn't the same to me. The other crap they added like the lame stealth doesn't add much either. And outside of all that this is still mostly the same game. Even the supposedly new stuff like the filter that you use to follow Mayu is stuff that was already done in the original in less gimmicky ways.tl;dr just like every other modern remake I already don't like a single thing about it. Not sure if I'll bother finishing it because I feel like my opinion isn't going to change at all for the better. Didn't like REmake 4 from the start either and that still hasn't changed
>>734867263no?
>>734871320>but really it just makes things take longerupgrade your camera focus pointsit does suck that they can get aggravated multiple times
>>734868765>>734871320Wait, is the game really hard or something? I love hard games, beat the OG on Nightmare.
>>734871420sounds like its not hard but rather annoying, frustrating and a slog to get through
>>734871320Ghosts didn't really move this fast in the original. Superfast ghosts became a thing in the 3rd and 4th game. So it is technically much harder than the original. Way harder than 5th game too which was piss-easy with a gamepad because the game was designed for the clunky Wii-U screen controls.
>>734871420it's very hard in the first 3 hours, some would even call it tedious I imagine, with fights against common ennemies lasting for 10 minutes if yo'ure unlucky.It gets easier as you understand how to upgrade the camera but fights are still a challenge, at least on hard (battle) difficultyI heard there is an extra difficulty once you beat the game
>>734868765>>734871638How do I upgrade the camera properly?
>>734867263Yeah, once I learned that focal points actually mean damage instead of max damage on the standard filter. Battle difficulty is kinda crazy with how priests are able to one shot you if you're knocked down. My hope is a future update letting you disable more of the UI and also get rid of the tutorial stuff.
>>734872248Use your orbs on Focal Points, that's the damage in this game. I put a point into focus and zoom too.
>>734872248first focust on focal points since damage is increased for each that lit up so more focus points -> more damage.Then you probably want to improve focus a bit.There is also a "max damage" stat but I'm not certain how important it is. Still upgrading it tho.Of course reload speed is nice too but really it's all about focal pointsAlso improve your standard charm which can be improved I think 6 times, increasing your damage with standard filter each time. I can kill a common ennemy in 2 shots with 08 tape if I get a good shot
>>734872445>max damagePretty sure it's for no filter. For filters you need to buy and upgrade amulets
I wanted this game for the handholding but the sister got kidnapped on the demo, so I suspect I’ll spend the whole game looking for her and I’ll only get to hold her hand again until the end
>>734873404nah you get to handhold again 4 hours inand then she gone againmaybe she'll be back ?
I am enjoying it a lot so far, the atmosphere is the best part of these games and it's very much present here. Slowly exploring the village and taking lots of pictures with photo mode. The combat improvements are pretty great aside from some specific enemies having too much health.
>>734867263They added a dumbass stamina bar and dodge mechanic. That's not how Fatal Frame 2 played.
>>734875456>can't see up the 15 year old girl's skirt for a few milliseconds>this is your top reason for not wanting the game
>>734875592NTA but I have a problem with how embarrassingly arrogant you are about this>le problem??!? I’m the cool guy I’m the bastion for censorship nope not gonna touch it it’s trash!!Fucking loser, don’t even bother to participate in these threads again
>>734875592It seems you did not like the games in the first place, or that you even played them, so no problem really.
>stamina>dodge>worse art direction>censorship>twins are lesbians nowAnons were right about everything. Demake is awful
>>734875592>>734875456PS2 extra outfits were just as boring, just a bunch of kimonos. So there is no censorship. If you want more booba outfits play 3,4 and especially 5.
>>734875952I just want more outfitsonly 4 to unlock is too little
>>734867263Games fine I guess, I like a lot of the new things they've added like new areas, properly tracked side quests, twin doll collectathon. My only gripe so far is the ghosts aggravated state replenishing a shit tonne of their health, more annoying than challenging.
>>734875570You want to make anon's reason sound incredibly ridiculous, but I can understand where it's coming from. There are so many games available that you could play nowadays, it's very easy to drop a game if something about it bothers you and just play something else. Hell, in the case of remakes like this you can even decide to play the original.
>>734876042Was original game also seamless?
>>734876234Originals were stingier with really good Film and you just found 14 and maybe 61 occasionally. Standard "Resident Evil" system where you find lot of pistol ammo, some shotgun ammo and rest is rare. In remake they give you lot of 90 film too but film capacity in inventory is like 1/3 of what it was originally. So the balance is weird takes some getting used to.My guess is they want players to use 90 films more since in every game previously you saved 90 film for bosses and multiple ghost fights.
>>734876367No, I mean was that one big map or a bunch of smaller locations?
Not buying yet... Would have if Death Stranding 2 wasn't coming out next week.
>>734876447Ah sorry. Original had the village streets as big overworld, then door inside every bigger area was a loading screen, basically its own instance.
>>734875952>. So there is no censorship.Yes, there is. They removed the xbox extra costumes.
>>734876734So by that logic, the wii remake is also censored because they didn't include those Xbox costumes
>>734868187>I can't look at the 15 year old girl's undies and her underdeveloped boobsFucking creep.
I really want to drop the game. I can't stand stealth and stalker enemies
>>734878023Kusabi is the games Mr.X. Don't bother fighting him until he becomes a proper boss with a fighting arena. The underground ghosts are blind, so their weakspot is not their eyes but ears.
>>734867263The atmosphere in this game is terrible. Imagine making a horror game with no quiet subtle moments whatsoever. Just blaringly loud ambient noise the entire time.
>>734875526its not that crazy, the dodge is still pretty clunky and the stamina has other cool mechanics to it too, like its used for your special shots. And if you run out and get hiy you fall on your back and that's when the ghosts can do big damage, some can even one shot you in that state.Its a nice thing to spice it up, especially since the ghosts are way more aggressive this time
>>734867263>Playing a censored demakeNahI'm glad it bombed
>>734868187I don't understand the issue over the panties, OG was never that lewd and because of the nature of the game and fixed camera angles, you rarely get any opportunity to look up Mayu's skirt, she's not even in the game most of the time too. So you barely get to see her panties, hell when i played the OG all the time with all the replays, i've never once thought of looking up her skirt too because its just not the mood or the vibe of the game.
>>734867263The fuck is this horror game remake pandemic?Foids?
>>734878437>Censorship apologistsEvery single time
>>734878437They don't care about whether the game focus on showing panties or not, they just want to complain.
>>734878515>da foid agian? The amount of seething itt, Yes
>>734878596I've never been one to accept censorship, i've been shitting on game that do. I remember shitting so much on the Dead Rising remaster with all of the censored stuff.But its usually when it makes sense and fitting. It was part of the narrative, or even quest design.But Mayu's panties, even when you try to look at it, its still barely visible. Like that was never the intent. You can't even tell if its just white panties, or white spats or bloomers with frills. Its not like an genuine inherent design like with Ashley's panties in RE4>>734878724still, it would be nice to get some insight if it is genuine.
>>734867263Meh. Fatal Frame just kinda sucks past the og triolgy. The series failed to modernize and the last few play like clunky indie games. RE4 did irreparable damage to this franchise and it still hasn't caught up yet.
>>734878202>some can even one shot you in that state.Kusabi and head priest could one shot you in the original too.
>can't zoom the photoFucking why? Why do I need to lean to the screen?
>>734879353nvm. When I tried to press esc it just asked me if I want to quit the puzzle. But when I was outside of puzzle it just worked.I don't know why I can't zoom it during puzzle but whatever.
>>734879307Kusabi is obvious, of course he can one shot. But i don't remember the priest being able to do that. Then again OG has always been really easy.In the remake if you're on the floor, he just stabs you with his staff and one shots, learned that the hard way and my last autosave was 30 minutes ago lol
>>734879084>RE4 did irreparable damage to this franchiseHow so?
>>734878437Its the Streisand effect. I never knew that she had panties on in the original. I didnt care. I was more focused on the game.ButThe fact that they removed them and added spats has caused everyone to talk about it.Ironically, if they didnt remove them, no one would have given a shit. But now it needs to be talked about because its censorship. Koei Techmo went out of their way to cause an issue that didnt need to exist, and now whenever this game gets brought up, its going to have this discussion around it.
>>734879084Fatal Frame 4 is better than 2, I have to disagree.Fatal Frame 5 was what managed to kill the series
>>734880191RE4 killed the entire genre. FF 1-3 were genuine RE competitors but RE4 innovated gameplay and character dialogue so much it pretty much made FF irrelevant. So much so that Fatal Frame has never even gotten a physical release outside Japan ever again.
>>734879718Not the normal priest, I mean the head priest, the guy who turns into skeletor. His damage ranges from high to insta-ko.
>supporting censorslopnahglad my refund went through
>>734881146Good point. Horror games in general stopped existing in the way they did before RE4. Really when it comes to popularity the genre was always just Resident Evil alone on the top, then a long way down it was Silent Hill, then a shitload further down the ladder it was FF, and then everything else was deep in a bottomless abyss of irrelevance. That hasn't changed at all with the recent surge in remakes and return to more traditional survival horror.
This is such a strange remake.Fatal Frame 1 had a camera that required you to hold the frame on the enemy to charge the shot. The longer it charged the more damage it did.Fatal Frame 2 changed it so that it was a distance based attack. The closer you were the more damage you would do.Fatal Frames 3-5 went back to the original style with minor changes here and there depending on what the game wanted to be their special thing.But in his remake, I struggle to see how the combat works. The game doesn't really explain it that well, and its changed how Shutter Chance and the Fatal Frame even works. And there are charging dots in the camera, but I cant figure out why some glow red and others dont. For those of us who have played the other games, this combat style feels weird. And for the new players, they dont know how to play either cause the game doesnt explain it well enough. Worst of all is the Leer attack that ghosts do, which they start doing pretty much the start of the game. However, the "tutorial" on how to dodge it doesn't come until after you've played for a few hours.And then when I look up reviews online Ill see people saying shit like "you just need to upgrade this part first, then play in this style" which is retarded.Why do I have to follow a specific playstyle and upgrade tree in order to not feel like its a complete slog of a game to play? Why add so many new upgrades and lenses if playing outside of a certain style drains the fun?Why start battles with the ghosts using Leer if no one has been trained how to dodge it?The original 2, for all its faults, had a simple and straightforward combat style which allowed you to focus on the horror and atmosphere and the story. Fights were quick but because of that it didn't take away from the game. But for me, I'm less afraid of the haunted village, and more afraid of stumbling into a fight that wastes the next 5-10 minutes of my life fighting some random villager.
>>734881146>>734882116Amnesia and Slender Man brought the genre back when youtubers started making noises when playing them.
>>734882619>I cant figure out why some glow red and others dontglow = will inflict damageI think it has to target a focused part of the ghost > I look up reviews online Ill see people saying shit like "you just need to upgrade this part first, then play in this style"there are different "builds" and "styles"
>6 hours to open prison with double lock in Kurosawa's houseAm I very slow?
>>734867263What the heck this exists? Downloading demo now. Is the demo any good?
>>734868187>>734877264>>734878437is today opposite day, aren't you all usually pedos lol
>>734883672nah I'm at the same point. Maybe 30 min faster than you
>>734867263Is it like the Wii remake? Because I tried that while finding which version to play and it was beyond soulless. I ended up playing the PS2 version
>>734883721Demo is fine to understand how the game runs on your machine and give you the idea about gameplay. But shop isn't available (it's not a big deal anyway at this point in the game).The good thing is that full game lets you load saves from the demo>>734883903No, it's another version
>they released a balance update already to nerf the damage spongesJesus, how fast do they work. Don't updates take a while to certify for Playstation/Switch? Does that mean they had these updates ready even before release?Also, I didn't beat the game.
>>734884147>just stopped playing>something was downloadedI...didn't beat the game...
After reading the thread, it seems like they messed with the balance and added new features the original and wii remake didn't have. For someone thats playing it for the first time, are there any tips and warnings you would give a noob player? I played the original FF1 and thats it.
>Where the FUCK is my FUCKING oneechan?Really, KT?
>>734884395If you played the original FF1 then you have enough knowledge to figure this one out. The combat has more going on with a couple new mechanics but it's nothing complicated. One tip I would give is don't hesitate to use your good film, you may feel compelled to conserve and use your infinite free one, but it's extremely weak and its main use is to take pictures of the environment and non-hostile ghosts. In combat, use your good stuff, the game does give you enough.
>>734884469But it's not Resident Evil Remake.Did James say fuck even once in Silent Hill 2 Remake?
>>734884582>if you have played the first one you can figure this outExcept they actually changed how film types work.I found this on the steam forums:Type 07 is the normal slow, crappy and infinite.Type 14 loads slightly faster and does more damage, but is limited to 32 by default.Type 61 loads very slowly, does a lot of damage and is limited to 8.Type 90 loads super fast, but does terrible damage, the same as 07 I think, and is limited to 32.Type 0 loads super slow and does the most damage, as always. You can only carry 2.Why did they do this?
>>734878437>panties and swimsuits in the original were never important>that's why we took our time and money to redesign outfits so panties are no longer visibleyeah, you know very well why they change it. It was important.
man I hope they only nerf the normal and easy difficulty
>>734881146My Wii U copy of IV begs to differ
>>734881146>outside JapanChina got English physicals of the 4/5 remasters and 5 on WiiU specifically did get a limited edition in Europe. I have no idea what physicals 2make is getting because fuck modern consoles.
>>734884898>>734884861I meant 5, whoops. I can't keep track of what is and isn't a remake with this series
>>734867263Ordered my copy this morning, I liked the demo a lotSaw they've been updating it pretty quickly too with the film grain thing and balance adjustments so that's nice
So, how its the remake?>its okay, I guessyou mean, like all Fatal Frame games?
>>734868187fippy bippy.
>>734884715I'm playing on Battle mode and the fast reload on 90 is very useful after i got a few damage upgrades. Upgrades for reload time will make the other film types more viable because it feels like reloading a musket when using them.
>Residen Evil 2 Remake>Silent Hill 2 Remake>Fatal Frame 2 RemakeWhat did they mean by this?
>>734884779i was also worried about this after seeing all of the complaints. i saw multiple people claiming that fights on story difficulty took them 30-50 minutes.
>>734884742It seems like they removed the outfits in the Wii remake, and this new remake seems more based off the Wii remake than the original game. Not excusing it, only trying to add context why that probably happened. Extra outfits for the new remake would have been nice, especially a funny costume of some sort. I like funny costumes as unlocks for horror games.
>>734884147was it really a balance patch? i haven't seen any patch notes
>>734886454Owari da!We didn't beat the gamehttps://x.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/2032433999025418574
>>734885813We are going by order of horror franchises, biggest to smallest. And we've reached the smallest one already.
>>734887085No, I just think it's funny that all of them started to make remakes with 2 I don't count RE Remake of course
>>734887328Uh oh, grifter melty. /v/ loved the game and you were wrong again.
>>734887070Lmao, as someone that is enjoying the combat, i'm actually fine with them toning down the red aura mode
>>734887070i just restarted on battle mode and the first few fights felt about the same difficulty-wise. hopefully the changes were just related to normal/story mode and the aggravated state activating multiple times in one fight.
>>734867263I have $170 psn credit, but I refuse to buy censored shit. I don't get for who this is for. Even chicks don't like it or find it weird. If any new fags want to try these games I would say stick to the ps2 or if you can try the "enhanced" xbox versions
>>734888565https://steamcommunity.com/app/3920610
>>734888765Your top priority is censorship but you suggest sticking to the PS2 version where the characters are objectively less beautiful and more childlike? Are you just a pedophile?
>>734867263Where's her tits?
>>734889115>>734889158Wow great arguments. It shows you people have nothing to say or add to any discussion. I hope it does make you mad that I have a ps5 pro and a switch 2. I love gaming and I'm not going to support a raped censored version of a game I actually like. People should go play the superior ps2 and xbox versions.
>>734889158Nobody cares if these things anger you poojeet. I know your types get angry at people having things. Maybe if you're country was full of shit eating phone scammers they'd sell them there
ONEECHAN CAN YOU FUCKING STOP RUNNING AWAY ON YOUR OWN
>>734889476I'm not surprised this is how you censorship apologists act and behave. It's really telling how weak faggy men are all for this, yet actual chicks don't even like changes like these.
>>734889646Every console and platform is ruined by browns, fags and casuals. Just of different natures. It's just the state of western gaming. You're just upset that people own things and you don't.
>>734888765kek you triggered the censorjeets
Sorry, onee-chan, But you are going to sti alone for 3 hours because I'm going to explore the whole village again with new shit I obtained in the house.
>Forced AAImmediately uninstalled my pirated copy. Screw you TN
I’m tired of pretending FF4 wasn’t the best in the series. There I said what we are all thinking
>>734887460>Indian>The game is clearly JapaneseI hate jeets too but you are wrong.
>>734890359FF3*FTFY
>>734875570>>734875694>>734875737>>734875952>>734876948>>734877264>>734878437>>734879046fucking tasteless niggers. kill yourselves.
Censoredslop is worthlessslop.
>>734884715>no 37Uh... why is it inconsistent from 1? 37 was the "shotgun" equivalent in 1 iirc, so I guess that's 14 in 2?
>>734884967Only 2 has been remade, though it has been twice at this point. 4 and 5 have been remastered. 1 and 3 can apparently get fucked, though in 1's case it at least got an Xbox port alongside 2. 2 just gets fucking everything apparently.
>>734867263Got filtered by first ghost on the streetSpecial shots are cancer
>>734890993It isn't? I'm 100% sure Project Zero was made by Japanese devs.
>>734867263>looks like dogshit>30fps on consoles
What's the correlation between fans of the franchise by pic rel and pure unhinged schizophrenia, no exception. And I'm talking about before Koei fusion even
>>734884345This is why you pirate it
>>734892139You're correct. Some anons live to shitpost in their own brainrotted realities. Best to ignore them.
I fucking hate the aggravation and leer attacks holy shit. What were they thinking?
>>734868187based integrity and principle haver
>>734868187fpbp
Did anyone figure out how shutter chance works? I know it only occurs when you deal enough damage to cross the line in a ghost's health but sometimes I'm able to follow it up with a combo and other times I'm waiting for the film to reload.
>>734893451>Did anyone figure out how shutter chance works?Literally fatal frame
>>734868187>You consider this a bad and censored remake therefore its pointless and you should not play it>I consider it a great opportunity because of the extra angles with the new camera and how Mayu can fall down so we can have great lewd positions with the addition of great modern games mods capabilities that PS2 games couldn't do>We are not the same.
>>734892250Inferior complex is a hell of a drug. I find it funny these threads are defending censorship yet Tecmo library used to be filled with popular IPs alternative with fanservice. NG, FF and DoA will never be as popular as DMC, RE/SH and Tekken lol.
>>734893496So you have to hit a fatal frame on the shot that crosses the health threshold? I feel like I've done this before and I hear the clicking sound for the follow up but I can't figure out how to consistently get the combo.
Does number of focals matter when you photo twin dolls or spectres?
>>734895340I think as long as you have both the dolls in the shot, you should be ok. Focal points don't matter for spectres.
>>734875694People who have a zero tolerance on censorship are superior to other people. That's just a fact. If you allow any censorship of the smallest detail, you are subhuman and don't deserve human rights.
>>734875737Extremely retarded take. Real Fatal Frame fans are ones who don't tolerate any changes to the originals. Especially ones made by bad actors like yourself.
>>734894542its gets more hilarious once you realize the fanservice was a huge part of those games as well. And their brilliant idea is to bring those games back... Without the fanservice. What a way to shoot themselves in the foot.
>>734875952Even for PS2 that is wrong and you're clearly being dishonest by pretending the superior Xbox version doesn't exist (which comes with bikinis, DOA cosplay and honest-to-god bondage gear for the twins).
>>734891320I have no idea why 2 is the one they latched on so hard. 1 and 3 are both better games in my opinion.
>>734896495It looks extremely dated compared to the rest of the series and Miku and Mafuyu just aren't that compelling as protagonists. The only thing I think 1 does better than 2 is the combat and difficulty. 2 had been such an upgrade from 1 in terms of presentation that I think that's why it became the fan favorite.
>>734896495>noooo I'm a zoomer and some weird youtuber told me that 1 and 3 were better games i honestly don't understand why are they altchign on the defining fatal frame game so hard 1 and 3 are better right fellow alt righters who don't play games????Kill yourself
>>734867263I'm playing the original first. I hate the way the camera works. I liked it better in the first game
What's up with the local schizo
why the fuck did they remove bikinis after recently ratcheting up the boobservice in NG and DOA announcement
>>734871486The only ghosts that were fast that I remember were the monk in FF1 and the brushing ghost in FF3
>>734896495I personally prefer 3 because of the switch between dream world and real world.
how the fuck do you revert to an older game version on steam? i tried using depot downloader, but the version # still reads the same on the title screen.
>>734897252The good news is they went back to that style for every subsequent game after 2
Really wanted to get but Im poor. Missed out on preorder outfits, might miss out on early purchase outfits. Im sick of FOMO.Whatever, usually I like to just use default outfits anyway. I shouldnt stress over it
>>734897960That's good. I am enjoying the game for the most part. I just finished the Kiryu house
>>734898102Early purchase lasts for awhile but yeah, you're likely SOL on the preorder outfits until they add it as dlc.
>>734871486I recall the samurai boss guy being a pain in the ass due to his speed but other than that they all shamble in the first game
I don't give a fuck about censored. What I care about is that the cloth physics are janky as fuck when they were amazing in the original. Given they had fucking nothing else to render. The third to first person camera switch is incredibly less impactful, being back fixed camera angles you fucking cowards. The replacement for good and mysterious sound design with quick time event level UI information. Enemies are bullet sponges with massive fucking health bars that move too fast versus the old lumbering terrifying monsters that you never knew when they were gonna fall. The janky ass doors that teleport you around every time you go to open a door. It's a pile of shit and a complete demake. Literally all they had to do was sell a product that was the original on PC, and they made it so bad I'm just gonna pull out the old console and replay that shit this weekend.
Why is lil bro talking to himself?
>>734867263I can't play this on Windows 10 LTSC because I need some VP9 video codec from the windows store. lmao
>>734896908Imagine being so deranged that you have to invent some youtuber bogeyman to protect your fragile ego from the fact that people don't give a shit about 2.
>>734895991this.
What is it about Japanese horror that causes such meltys and negativity? I thought it was just because Resident Evil is the biggest horror franchise, but even Fatal Frame has to deal with this intense autism.Its horror, you have to use your imagination a little. And we have people in here so rigid that they bitching about the game being in 3rd person.
>>734868187Based.
>>734895991>>734899736Its not censorship though, its a redesign of the main outfit since its a remake. And the OG outfit is in the game
>>734900013it's horror in general, in any media
>>734899386you can install winget on windows 10 ltsc and install anything from microshit store
>>734889227there is a reason she became a vengeful ghost, retard
>>734898102Early purchase lasts for awhile but yeah, you're likely SOL on the preorder outfits until they add it as dlc.>>734899386Who is this qt3.14?
>>734900306>Who is this qt3.14?I will spoon feed you more than you can take when you answer my question
>>734897565Maybe I'm old but I would consider Broken Neck and Hiding Boy to be fast from the first game.
>>734896706>It looks extremely dated compared to the rest of the seriesIt looks the same as the other ps2 entries the fuck are you on about>Miku and Mafuyu just aren't that compelling as protagonists.And what's more compelling about Mio constantly tard wrangling and trying to find where her retarded sister wandered off to for the nth time? Only for her ass to die anyways.>>734898173>than that they all shamble in the first gameNo they don't. They teleported and floated around constantly. The blind lady did nothing but teleport, the headless monks floated around you extremely fast and the folklorist also did nothing but float then teleport just outside of the viewfinder's range before attacking. The family head with his slash dash that you're talking about is one of the only ghosts in the game that moved somewhat normally along the ground.
Is it true the game runs like shit on PC?
>>734867263>it's cracked alreadyHow's performance on something like 4070s? I've heard it's poorly optimized so far.
>>734868187BASED
>>734878437So why remove it, if it doesn't matter, censorcuck?
huh they actually nerfed the difficulty pretty quickly. guess no one can actually beat the game now
>>734896495Because of the story. 1st one has great atmosphere and setting, but characters were meh. 3ed one has pluses and minuses. Good characters, interesting setting, superb atmosphere, but the end stretch was messy though. 2nd is consistently good.
>>734901832Dunno how a 9060XT 16gb compares to a 4070, but to get a more stable 60 fps I had to turn down the render scale to 90%. This is at 1440p with standard settings across the board. Also this was the demo which I assume will carry over to the full game
>>7348964951 and 3 are better games if you're a genre enthusiast. 2 is a better entry point with broader appeal than either of those, it's an easier game to sell.
>>734867263I am actually surprised that nobody noticed that they look 30 now
I'm getting an infinite loading screen / black screen.I have the VP9 Codec installed. This game is a buggy fucking mess.
>>734904059Thanks goodness you didn't pay for it
>>734904414I refunded. Might buy later when they fix the issues.
>>734885328
>>734905253>Ugly graphics & terrible art direction - looks like generic modern slop with 0 identity>Terrible gameplay - combat system is reduced to a waste of time instead of quick casual fun>Godawful ghost re-designs - some look like zombies others like trannies>Tons of costumes absent from the original and what's left looks like crap>Nonsensical censorship - even though mio wears pants she still has black paint shorts above her pants>Un-optimized disaster
>>734905253don't listen to the other anon, if you like fatal frame you'll enjoy it. try the demo if you're on the fence.
>>734906281>>734907242I played the demo and it was alright? Its hard to me to say its shit because I don't know how the original played out. I only played 3.
>>734867263waiting for hypervisor crack
Waiting for the pantsu mod, unironically. Really want to play it but I must goon.
>>734867263So from the consensus online the patch did a 180 on the difficulty. The hardest (available from start not the xtra unlockable one) is basically the pre patch story but a little easier. While normal and easy and two/three-shot kills on 90% of the enemies. I'll wait for the patch to come out for the torrent. If it's not from RUNE then use the fix available to allow save transfer from other users if you have hrs played and don't want to lose the progress. Should work. Theoretically.
>>734896495Because if they remake 1 and make it even scarier I don't think I could play it.
I think it's great except for "Willpower." Gay-ass stamina management with an even gayer method of replenishing it. Even Silent Hill f did it better.Regardless: 8/10 game so far for me.
>>734905253>>734907242>Just be a good goy and buy the new slop
>>734893575Based anon. These retarded niggers always wanna screech about something, but is always too stupid to see the bigger picture and take advantage of a golden opportunity right in front of them. It's your fucking game, take control. You think they censored something? Put it the fuck back in.
>>734868187>when the first post is the best post
>>734902332never said it doesn't matter but when the quality of a game supersedes over something that is so minor even with the context of the original game.Why let something as little as that control you over your enjoyment on a certain game?You really gonna miss out and not play a good game just because there's no panties?You're no better than all the trannies that won't play a game just because it doesn't have non binary genders in the character creator or something like that.
>>734902332>>73486818715 year olds, dude.inb4 "out of 10"
soooo game ruined by normies sucking at it?
>>734912313nigger
>>734912453faggot
>>734912368Maybe, i haven't had the time to test it out but as someone who did enjoy the combat, even i think the ghosts becoming red were pretty annoying and them lessening that would be pretty good.Its not just normies either, a plenty of anons here were complaining about it too. When even /v/ can't handle that then you know its bad
>>734912136>can't answer the question>resorts to talking about trannies out of no where again, if it's so minor why did they remove it?
You know its pretty stupid, after all of this discourse over censored panties, no one in these threads has even once posted what Mayu's panties actually look like in the original game. And i don't mean those going down the stairs screenshot. I mean full on freecam going right up her snatch.
>>734912563>abloo bloo not the heckin 15 year olderino pixels in a bikini!You're the definition of a faggot, kill yourself
>>734912575well they could just lower the difficulty a bit. I really liked the combat in battle difficulty and I was killing common ennemies in 30 secs in chapter 4. Only thing I'd have liked to see would be to limit aggravated spirit to only once per wraith (and make it rarer/not rng based)Now I don't even want to play if there is no danger, I pray that they remove those nerfs for battle and above difficulties
>>734912707Because in game they're supposed to be 16 and the rep hit online is not worth it for them.Imagine being known to as the company that sexualizes a 16 year old even if she's fictional.The problem mostly is the fact they are pretty realistic looking and not an anime blob kind of character, pretty sure most won't be bothered if it is a more anime design.
>>734867263Aggravated ghosts are kinda annoying at first, but they're good to deter casuals. They're about to patch it out to balance things though.
>>734912773>well they could just lower the difficulty a bit.well the problem is, even on the easiest difficulty, the aggravated ghosts still constantly happen for them, so even on easy they become extremely annoying.But i hear it seems that is the only change, the frequency of the aggravated ghosts, and it seems the patch only changed them for the lower difficulties so battle mode is unchanged.
should i buy? those kimonos look really good. it's JAPAN!!!
They should have made the game harder, not easier. It has the same major flaw Final Fantasy VII Remake does in its combat, which is the punishment for not playing it properly is that the game becomes boring.The punishment for playing wrong should be death, when the game fails to kill you even if you're playing like shit you'll just continue playing like shit and doing chip damage until enemies die 30 hours later. People who learn to do well are the kind of player who just enjoys exploring combat systems, the ones who just react at what the game throws at them will just think it's normal to take so long to kill enemies and will blame the game instead.A lot of people are learning to upgrade their shit, use filters and not save their film because they're complaining that it's boring and getting this advice in response. They shouldn't be complaining it's boring, they should be asking for help to beat it.
>>734912880You're not fully wrong but it's not right either. She's not sexualized in the game. The fact that people have to take those awkward ass videos of the original to prove it was there shows just how nonsexualized it is.If the player has to go out of his way to see it, there's no case to be made against the company.
>>734871320>just like every other modern remake I already don't like a single thing about it.then you were always just going to nitpick on the remake no matter what it did. because>OLD GOOD NEW BADso what is the fucking point of even playing it then
>>734913352yeah but the problem now is how easy it is to see that stuff now, with modern graphics, the new camera perspective and the new character design that makes her skirt bigger and also the fact that she can fall on her back, making it even easier to take a photo of under her skirt.
>>734912754I like my women legal, thanks.
>>734871320sounds like a skill issue.
>>734884961it innovated your salty ass into the filtered litter box
>>734882619the combat is entirely based around a fake stagger bar. that white line on the enemys health bar is a threshold, you have to get it to get shutter chances along with beefy fatal frames. its a shit system and adds nothing other than being a take stagger bar.
>>734895223No, you hit a fatal frame after you cross that health threshold.
>>734912136>never said it doesn't matter>but why does it matterAre you retarded?
I beat the game on Hard and saw that I need 3 million points for a costume that is essentially every day normal clothes for a girl in JapanEachThey will be hearing about this in the survey
>>734868187Gooners are ruining videogames, go jerk off to porn if you can't go five minutes without a dopamine fix.
>>734913953>>never said it doesn't matterwho are you quoiting?
>>734914069What do you think, you disingenuous retard? How about the literal words that this post starts with >>734912136
>>734914101t.
Everyday i'm reminded that Fatal Frame 5 did more harm than good for the series.
>>734914101>>but why does it matteri copied the wrong quote, i meant this one
I’m getting anti censorship fatigue…
>>734914421dilate
>>734890051Okay jamboy
>>734912754Why are you crying about not seeing an 15 year old cunny in a horror game, anon?
>>734882619>But in his remake, I struggle to see how the combat works. The game doesn't really explain it that well, and its changed how Shutter Chance and the Fatal Frame even works.You now have to reduce their health past the white line then counter attack them to get the usual fatal frame combo shots. Like the other anon said the change really adds nothing and just makes fights longer when combined with ghosts turning red constantly
You can tell who's an actual FF fan and who's just a schizo tourist from the DOA generals. Good to see there are SOME actual discussion about the game at least.
>>734896495Because out of the first three at least 2 is the easiest by far
How the fuck do I kill the floating woman at the end of chapter two?I barely dealt any damage even when trying to take pointblank shots when she attacks me, but then she became enraged or some shit and now I just deal chip damage
>>734916552I used the type 0 tape
>>734878023qrd? I cross the line when it comes to unkillable stalker ghosts.
Is there a new song for the credits?
>>734915892Nta, but you know you're being dishonest jamboy. The original versions and even the wii versions weren't like this. So why should we support stupid changes like these? It only emboldens those to keep pushing said changes.
>>734916825didnt played that much, but as I understood, the ghost are sponge enemies and can regenerate their health right in front of you if you take too long to beat them
Playing it right now and I get that why this series is niche. Exploration feels not that rewarding, combat is absolute slog, atmosphere of the town is just alright. It's kind of mid compared to SH or RE.
>>734917094Yeah, Utsushie
>>734912136Nice job dodging the actual question, idiot.
>>734896049You know they would never have just ported the original games to modern platforms, that would be too much to ask for. As a remake this game is fine, it doesn't invalidate or erase the original game and you just like complaining about things.
>>734917482>combat is absolute slog,I have no idea what they're trying to do with the combat in this game.
>>734912754Yes, Koei Tecmo should totally get themselves in legal trouble and get the game banned in several countries so that you could get to look at a 15 year old girl's panties for a couple of seconds over the course of a 10 hour game. Why wouldn't they do that, are they stupid? There couldn't possibly be any good reason to do that, surely.
>>734917970Modders should have already fixed this by now.
>aim for the ghost>take a shot for a fatal frame>clearly hit the motherfucker>somehow the ghost didn't receive damage and managed to hit me
already played the original a few times, not going to play a remake unless its like $10
>>734917850I find it fun. Get your first stagger, switch to type 61 and radiant filter, charge all willpower then one shot ghost while trying to avoid their leer is kinda fun.
>>734867263No I don't give money to companies that censor shit.
>>734918772>leerWhat the fuck triggers thisI got told it happens if I stare back at them too much with the camera but sometimes it happens as soon as I use it
I think stealth on ghosts is a fucking stupid concept
>>734881146Sucks to suck burgerboy. I have a physical Maiden of black water on my WiiU. Special edition and everything. We got them in Europe.
Should I play 4 and 5 if I'm enjoying 2 Remake?t. 2 Remake is my first Fatal Frame game
>>734868187Everyone that disagrees with this shouldn't be here
>>734913531It's legal in not muttmerica. Welcome to Europe
>>734916432It's funny because I'm also a long time DOA fan but I appreciate what made Fatal Frame what it is before the introduction of Maiden of Black Water. I still liked 5 but the story and atmosphere is easily the worst in the series.
>>734881146I'd argue that it never leaving Japan is what killed interest. Unless you were dedicated enough to mod your Wii and patch the iso, there was no way to play it. Way too much work for the average Wii owner.
>>734919378>I have a physical edition of the worst FF game for the worst Nintendo consolefucking grim
>>734919721Sure, I enjoyed 4 and 5 for different reasons.
Koei Tecmo is kinda killing it lately. How is the current state of Atelier? Haven't played one since Sophie.
>>734920218Idiotic move, will only push people to buy games in places anywhere BUT the store.
>>734919721>2 Remake is my first Fatal Frame gamewhy not play the original so you can have an idea on how much of the original design was translated (or butchered). Or at least try the third game.
>>734919995>worst Nintendo console>while shitch 2 existsLMAO
>>734875952>PS2 extra outfits were just as boring, just a bunch of kimonosThat's the best part you faggot, that's why I have an axe to grind with 5's costume selection.
What is bro sperging about now
What's the verdict on Dreadout FF bros?
>>734921024It's alright.
>>734921024I played a little bit of the first game and it was pretty disappointing. The smart phone doesn't act like the camera obscura at all other than the basics. I heard heartworm is also pretty good but I haven't tried it yet.
>>734921024The pig ghost looks like a minister
>>734920553Switch 2 takes a dump on WiiU so hard it's not even funny, what the fuck are you talking about gigaretard
>>734921216>WiiU>Original hardware and original software>Shitch 2>Rereleases of old Switch titles which are rereleases of old WiiU titles>Games not even physical>Literally outdated system that's just a slightly better Switch>pay for C buttonLMAO
>>734920716Tbf having 3 kimonos and yukata was a bit overkill. The remake should definitely have more outfits but I'm glad they designed those gothic kimonos, probably my favorite outfits in the game.
Safe to say I am blasting. The game doesn't replace the original, they are different enough in their gameplay and the camera perspective that there isn't much point in comparing them.
>>734915892i bet you get horny to 23 year old cunny, you sick pedophile
Is there any way to replace the pictures in the ghost list? They deserve better than this first garbage smeared up off-focus picture I manage to take of them.Also the leer attack is really cool. When that happened I thought damn, they actually turned Sadako's iconic eye shot into a mechanic. Aggravated wraiths are cool too. Kinda like the blooming ghosts in 4, except it actually does something.
>>734919090>I am the one who spooks around here.
>>734923443Is it comparable to RE2R or SH2R?
>>734923443What's up with this game fucking up Steam's framerate counter? frame gen?
>>734893575
>>734925142In terms of overall quality and fidelity, sure. Fatal Frame is slower and more atmospheric than RE games, so I would say it's closer to SH. There is still combat, but FF2R is more a game about exploring a spooky empty village, looking for clues and coming to understand the (actually quite decent) story while exorcising ghosts. RE2R is much more fun to play, but FF2R is much more spooky and has a likeable story with various endings.
>>734920180Canceled so Gust can work on DoAX
>>734916825There is Stalker enemy and should to hide if you want to escape or avoid it completely.Really annoying sometimes
>>734923851only BOW
Can't decide whether to get this on PS5 or Switch 2. Switch 2 has gyro controls in handheld which seems cool. Also apparently has no film grain. But the performance was already bad on PS5.
>>734900207And that reason has something to do with wearing tit-obscuring shirt?
>>734927097You can turn off the film grain. I suppose it depends on if you care about the higher resolution on the PS5.
Does anyone know where to find this one?
Does film grain effect performance or people just dont like it?
>>734927641It didn't affect me but I have a pretty powerful PC. What did affect performance was having multiple ghosts for some reason.
>>734867263Sex with ghosts. I can fix all of them.
>>734928152>Bend over, sweetie
B-b-b-ros? Should I?
How was casualization patch last night? Are fights faster now?
>>734929960>How was casualization patch last night?I can't say for sure if it's becasue of the patch or because I obtained more focal points and upgraded radiant filters, but I can kill normal zombies in 2 shots on normal. Didn't meet red ghosts yet>Are fights faster now?It depends on an enemy.
>>734930278>radiant filter amulet*
>>734868187should have been first post.
Why is this thread so dead where are all the censorship defending shills? do they even play this game?
>>734897565>Even for PS2 that is wrongNope, thats how it was. First 2 games didn't have bikini outfits. First game protagonists even dressed in modest everyday clothing instead of super fashion designed fairy princess frill outfits the franchise became known for after 2nd game. 3rd game was where protagonist started showing bit more bare skin in her outfit and she was fighting a bunch of bare-breasted tattooed ghost women.
>>734932130Isn't there only one bare chested ghost in 3?
If I want to get into the FF franchise is this a good game to start with? I can emulate the other ones too.
>do I enjoy itThis is the worst remake I have played in a while
No bikinis, no buy.
>>734932192Start with 1, it's rough around the edges but the story of some of the sequels is connected to it
>>734932190No the blind women with nails on their hands were also barebreasted and tattooed.
>>734931783>Why is this thread so dead where are all the censorship defending shills?jeet censored video game, they didn't hire the capcom bots to shill it. It's exhausting chief.
>>734931783>do they even play this game?Maybe because they are playing it right now that they're not in the thread?
Are the ghost women hot compared to the original?
Looks like they're adjusting the damage for fatal frames
>>734933527From what I've seen, no and that's a good thing. The sexy ghosts in 5 ruined the atmosphere.
>>734933527No. The only ghost that showed a little bit of cleavage was the Falling Woman and she's crawling mess of broken bones. Also the spookiest ghost in the game since she always jumpscares you with a scream and a crash on the floor when you get her as a random encounter.
>>734931783There really no reason to visit nu fatal frame threads.gamergate fags and zoomers who circlejerk 1 and 3 make it a pretty shitty experience
>>734867263Woke censorship garbage!>>734868187FPBP
>>734913806>>734916112OG FF games already staggers the ghost when you get shutter chance or Fatal Frame. Dunno why they add this stupid stagger bar from souls games.
>>734919765Fuck off, PDF file.
>>7349347034 doesn't have much to talk about now that its easy to get on Steam, 5th one has the best booba but as gameplay experience without the Wii-U gimmick its a bit meh, and the story is quite dumb.
>>734935230Really? I thought tilting the camera to capture the different wisps was super fun. The only thing I disliked about the gameplay was splitting the points between the 3 playable characters, I always left Ren with the basic unupgraded camera as a result.
>>734935309The tilting mechanic was completely casualized by gamepad controls. Reason was that the overall difficulty of 5th game is easy. They had to make the ghosts slower because originally players were rotating an expensive game screen with their hands. So when you remove the gimmick of the intentionally clunky controller, the game becomes way too easy. I love how they gave the prettiest face in the game to the tomboy character though.
I don't like the removal of the fixed camera angles, I do like the removal of the points popping up when you take a picture of ghosts. "ZERO SHOT 500 POINTS" kinda takes you out of it.
>>734867263too flat
>>734918948>happens if you stare back at them through the camera too muchholy shit, thats the point of Fatal Frame, you look at ghosts through a camera. Why did they think changing that was a good idea?
>>734935592Since first game it was basic info that looking at things through camera obscura is the most retarded idea ever and makes you die faster
>>734935309I also liked the tilt mechanic of 5, but the fun of it wears off and they dont introduce many ghosts that use it in any interesting ways. By the end the fights are super short and no longer interesting or scary. I think they should have brought it back for 2 remake and did a little more with it, instead of what they did here
>>734920180It has higher production values than ever, but has lost a lot of its identity. Gust keeps hoping they'll make it big if they make the games generic enough to appeal to a wider audience.
>>734935703Did you play the first game? You literally had to look at them as long as you could to charge the shot to do the most damage.It was the smart thing to do to move around and look at them as much as possible.What are you talking about?
>>734935485The Wii U gamepad was unironically the perfect controller to use for a Fatal Frame game. It's only downfall is the battery life and it also tends to get tiring to hold the camera up if you're playing for a long time.
>>734877264but its okay if those 15 year olds want to show off their undies and boobs to people right?
>>734935793>Did you play the first game?I think he referred to the fact that pulling up your camera too much created higher chance of a random ghost encounter. Leer is a fine "think fast with dodge button"-mechanic, meant to mix the ghost attacks a little bit so you're not just constantly aiming at their head and looking for the Fatal Frames in their 2-3 different attack animations.
>>734935952I refered to Yae actually, and how game tells you that she died and doomed her family because she decided to watch things through camera. And literally all mentions of same things happening in following games
>>734934703>zoomers who circlejerk 1 and 3Elaborate. Why is liking the two best games in the series bad?
>>734936041Both were always seen as inferior to 2, 3 wasn't even finished properly even compared to others ps2 releases.Only reason zoomers suddenly love them is more likely because some youtuber said they were hidden gems or some other homo shit.Same reason why zoomers love farcry 2, titan quest, pokemon bw, hellgate london and a lot of other garbage games that no one liked when they were releasedFuck, people even defend Animal Crossing City Folk and Zelda TP these days
>>734936203So I have this issue where people like to push their opinion as everyone's opinion because it's comfortable and makes them feel better about themselves, and I think it's fucking stupid. I first played the PS2 Fatal Frames back in 2012 and liked 1 the most straight off, with 2's presentation being cool but its combat underwhelming and 3 being a good mix of 1 and 2's strengths in spite of its obvious pacing issues. And that's the opinion I formed for myself when I played these games and still hold. So fuck this hidden gem/youtuber/"everyone else said" horseshit. That's such nonsense. I also liked some of those other games you mentioned at launch too.
>>734936028Not really what happened. Yae and Sae had a plan to escape because they were influenced both by the folklorist and the fate of the previous twins. Camera Obscura overall "invites disaster" because it tends to attract ghosts and otherworldly things, especially if you use it too much. Just like in the early cutscene where the folklorist takes a photo of the hell gate stone.
>>734936406>zoomer who's opinion obviously was formed by youtubers and twitch streamers>claims it's his own opinionTruly patheticlet me guess, you loved japanese fucking runes on puzzles? You played ps2 version after all, right?You hated how you could change films in other games when camera on, but came all over yourself because you couldn't do that in first?You fucking loved how mansion was empty because after few defeats ghosts stopped respawning for good? Bet you'll say "actually not having ghost is a good thing because it add's to atmosphere"Or maybe you being retarded zoomer you are who clearly never played games, will defend shitty controls and not being able to aim at half of ghosts who move outside of borders developers made for it?Holy shit, you are so full of shit, zoomie
>>734936406>>734936829Did we play the same game? One thing I remember with first Fatal Frame was that I had to fight the boring monk ghost in almost every hallway and corridor because the pacing was fucked and there was too much combat.
>>734936913He only spawns if you do nothing and go for a smoke
>>734936950For some reason the fucker kept appearing everywhere I went that wasn't a room with a scripted ghost fight. Game stopped being scary around the time I beat him for the 5th time.
>>734936829The rune shit could've been conveyed better but it's not that bad once you know how it works, and inverted stick controls while aiming builds character. I would never admit that 1 is the most polished game, but I like how rough around the edges it is. I think it's a more intense game for it, and while I still do love the sequels for the most part they all feel sanitized compared to 1 in my eyes. I get liking a game like 2 more, it is far more approachable overall, but for all its warts the difficulty and atmosphere of 1 gives it a character that the other games don't have, save maybe 3 in spots.
>>734932450Wrong.
>>7349372171st game had the most brutal hellgate rituals too, only 5th game came anywhere close with the whole "shove people into tiny drowning boxes so all their bones break in the process.". Being pulled apart by ropes in slow-motion and plucking out womans eyes so she can chase down and brutally murder a bunch of kids takes the cake. At least the oxes and horses have enough power to tear you apart relatively fast.
>>7349374253 had the most brutal ones, and for almost no gain too, because it wasn't even to close hellgate and just for "memories hurt let's remvoe some"Loved how 4 didn't even had ritual where people were supposed to die, was nice inversion after 3's absolute bullshit. And moonlight syndrome is pretty horrifying itself when you think about it
wch fatal wud u fram
>>734937559Moonlight Syndrome is actually the scariest of the rituals IMO, but that one taps directly into the value of my sense of self. That's one of the most valuable things you could take from me personally.>>734937615Hisoka or Rei
>>734937220Care to explain what's wrong about that factual statement
>>734868187>original had zero sex appeal>first remake added sex appeal>new remake puts it much closer to the original visionCensored! Screamed the retarded ape.
playing this game during the day is such a waste of my money
>>734937897>playing any Fatal Frame during the dayI'd call you a blasphemer but you're fucking your own ass so hey, you do that I guess. I think the sun is anathema to this franchise personally.
>>7349375593's ritual was just anti-curse/anti-disease shaman from the X-files episode. The tattoos wasn't just bad memories but "pain" in general. So not just trauma and bad memories but illnesses as well. They recruited women who were already suicidal and agreed to the ritual. When the priestess can't get any more tattoos without accidentally spilling the bad stuff to others, she gets a gentle death by sleep, guaranteed afterlife and her own personal trauma is left behind in a shattered mirror. Overall aside from full body tattoo theres not much sadism to it at all.Plan B carpenter sacrifice was a reference to real human sacrifices that cultures like vikings and japs used to do. That part was cruel since the 5 head carpenters didn't reveal the plan to the rest of the workers until it was too late.
Why is every single girl in this series gloomy and depressed right from the beginning of the game, a teenager should be more cheerful. Why aren't they calling the ghosts kimoi or some shit?
>>734939517Because it's a horror game. Also, sometimes girls are depressed.
>>734939517>Miku's brother is missing >Mio still feels guilty for Mayu's injury and they get lost in a weird village 2 minutes later >Rei's husband is fucking dead>All the girls in 4 had extrememy traumatic childhoods and now they're revisiting the place where it all happened>Miku's daughter has an incestual momI don't know man, they all seemed to have enough reasons to be depressed pre-game.
>>734936829I think it's just this one anon that has this weird hate boner for 2, and shits up every thread. If you play OG series for the first time from 1st to 2nd to 3ed, you'll feel that 2nd is just an upgrade to 1st in almost every way. You can argue distance based damage sucks compared to charge mechanic, but fundamentally the gameplay is the same.
>>734936913You remember wrong. The monk only shows up frequently at the very end of the game on the last night and it's impossible for 1 to have too much combat when it's the only game in the series where ghosts will be captured after you beat them enough times and stop showing up. Monk is one of the only exceptions. Replay the game, if you've even played it to begin with.>>734938275>They recruited women who were already suicidal and agreed to the ritual.No. The whole point is that Reika stopped being suicidal when she met that one guy and started to want to live with him yet still had to go through everything. That and the old cunt matriarch finding out about her getting too "connected" to this world and killing him right in front of her while she was still conscious was why everything got the way it was.>she gets a gentle death by sleepYeah staking the shit out of someone's limbs is a real gentle way to go. You also forgot to mention that the ladies who engrave the tattoos in the first place gouge out their own eyes and impale their hands with a bunch of needles. It was all extremely brutal.
>>734927097Honestly the Switch version is funny enough the best console version because all consoles run the game at 30 fps for some unholy reason, so at least you get the portable bonus.
Ghost have way WAY too much hp in this game, like holy fuck brother what were they thinking.
>>734940923They're releasing an adjustment patch to nerf aggravated ghosts on PS5 and Steam. Switch and Xbox should get it soon
>>734868187ThisNO RAPENO PLAY
>>734939910>>Miku's daughter has an incestual momMiu isn't even aware of that until the end of the game. Her dulled emotions are from being a shadowborn.
People shit too much on the combat or censorship and none of them are mentioning the real deal breakers:>mandatory quest tracker so you know exactly what to do and where to go, leaving no room for exploration>yellow pa-red butterflies that guides you exactly where to go, same problem as previous point>lame minigame where you have to stop the pickup animation in case you see a ghost hand nearby, for every fucking pickup, straight from the lame Wii remake>3rd person perspective that limits you on what you can see, this changes the apparitions of ghosts from the distance (because you could see them from the fixed-camera perspective in the original, and therefore, more spooky) to appear and walk straight on your face so you can actually see them and the game goes like "SEE? THAT'S A GHOST WALKING AROUND! THAT'S SCARY!!!"and for the few people thinking we should support this so they can correct their ways in the future, just don't. You said the same about The House of the Dead Remake and look how it turned out with the 2nd game.
>>734941072Switch is on 1,03 now, thinks same as steamBut fighting ghosts is just tediousI feel like it's the first fatal frame game where I hate fighting ghosts, and I even stomached first one back in the day
>>734940923>he uses the default meme filmngmi
>>734941317>>yellow pa-red butterflies that guides you exactly where to go, same problem as previous pointthe butterflies directing you on where to go where already in the original you retard. >>lame minigame where you have to stop the pickup animation in case you see a ghost hand nearby, for every fucking pickup, straight from the lame Wii remakeit's not on every single pickup like how 5 did it. Most are instant and have no animation. Your dealbreakers are retarded nitpicks, even the censorfaggots have more legitimacy than you.
>>734941384Do you really think this is my first time playing these games? You weren't even born back then most likely. I know how to play broski.
>>734941317Fuck off, retard
>>734941576interesting you said nothing about the quest tracker and the apparitions, because you know its true
The damage is pretty high now. It's blind ghost
>>734941804NTA but while I'd love a return to fixed camera angles, that's just not something modern devs are doing anymore. If you want fixed camera angles you're going to have to look at indie games but I agree, it removes creepy shots like the mother and child looking down at you in the Osaka house of the beautiful shot between roofs of Mio running down the street. Quest tracker is alright, it just gives you a clear way to progress stuff instead of looking it up online/fumbling through it and can be ignored. What cannot be ignored are the UI elements you can't toggle off. I really hope they add an option to turn those off in the future.
Hey gooner schizo the OG games didn't had any coomer stuff on it but I bet you weren't even aware of the series before 5
So do we like it or not? I need to know what the hive mind says.
>>734943479its mid, like all fatal frame games. People who liked the worst fatal frame games (4 and 5) likes this remake. Make of that as you will.
>>734941317I agree about everything but I still like the game as it was before being gutted for normie retards
>>734941317All of those are deal breakersWould've been a hit if it was named SIlent hill or REsident evil since those guys have jeet teams, jeet games don't fail regardless of how dogshit and mediocre they are (requiem , SHF)
Damn, you guys weren't fucking around. I upgraded focal points to level 3 before chapter 4 and now I'm shitting on every ghost I encounter, except that faggot Kusabi.
>>734868187FPBP, all I know is that it's censored so they can kiss my ass. Hope the studio dies
>>734868187fpbp /threadI will never buy a censored japanese game that has no goddamn clue who their audience is.
>>734941317>>mandatory quest tracker so you know exactly what to do and where to go, leaving no room for exploration>>yellow pa-red butterflies that guides you exactly where to go, same problem as previous pointOkay, now start chapter three.
>>734878437It's the principle of the matter. The fact they went out of their way to do it is the problem and a message needs to be sent.
It's pretty nice. I really want to keep these two safe, hnnngh!!
>>734943479Great game in all aspects outside of combat, which is second worst in franchise right after fucking 1. And because combat is very important it drags game down a lot.Anyway, hope future fatal frame games will take from it, both semi open world exploration, handholding mechanics and some others, should become mainstay
>>734868187FPBPI CAN'T PLAY IF I CAN'T CUM
best camera upgrades? best filter for maximum damage?
>>734868187Fpbp. I will not be buying this game.
>>734944387What's the issue with the combat now? It's tedious? Well recent patch did change that.
>>734944961>best camera upgrades?Focal point>best filter for maximum damage?Radiant
>>734945165>Well recent patch did change that.Not really, without upgrades all random ghosts are still massive time sinks...
>>734906281You are depressed.
>>734945206How are you supposed to use the radiant special shot in combat?
>>734917482>Playing it right now and I get that why this series is niche.If this is your first Fatal Frame game I would advise you to shut your mouth. You don't have a clue.
>>734943479Literally just try the game? There's a demo available for free
>>734867263Even the Steam forums are unanimously negative so I'm steering clear from this one.
Tongue bath this hebe
>>734945386Hold R1>>734945864People keep saying shit about the game being censored, but it doesn't change the fact that the twins are so fucking tight and sexy and I wish I had a private island filled with Japanese JK Ghostbusters.
>>734868187>So many replies agreeing with principled anonI'm glad /v/ is still a board of integrity. fuck censored slop and fuck OP for censoring censored slop
>>734941317I just feel it more uncomfortable to play compared to the original one desu. FF2 had great camera angles and the exploration and the random scares were designed around those. Now everything feels generic to explore, the slow pick up design was likely designed by someone who hates society
>>734945864How do you guys open photos?
>>734937682>or
>>734940057Pretty sure is that contrarian schizo seething at sh2 too, yeah, some younger youtuber played that game too get the fuck over it lmao
>>734867263I don't play coomer games, let alone coomer games that got censored for some godforsaken reason. Same reason I avoided games like Code Vein 2 or Nioh 3.
>>734921024There was another one with a phone too, id say just fucking fully copy fatal frame because nobody takes a fucking phone seriously
does the firt one have hot ghost women? im not a goy so i dont play remakes
>>734947119Yes.The series' appeal is the hot chicks, both the playable characters and the ghosts; they're to survival horror games what Senran Kagura or Onechanbara are to character action games.
>>734947119The only game with actual hot ghost women is 5. Like so attractive, it just sucked whatever horror was in that game.
>>734935774That's a bit of a shame. I think their reasoning IS solid but they're not investing enough to do it. Higher production valuens than ever for a Koei Tecmo game doesn't come even close to being high budget enough for the average normalfag.
>>734936203Conversely, I think 2 is the most popular just because it was the only one many people played. God of War, Onimusha, Fatal Frame, all series where 1 is vastly superior to 2 but 2 is considered the best in the series. 2 also sold more than 1. I wonder what the connection is.If anything zoomers not being caught up in the hype of the period and not having any bias to pretend the only game their played is the best one lets them see it for what it is.
>>734868187Yea pretty much this. Won't have any impact on how well it does, but oh well.
>>734947772It's pretty dead on twitch. Only niche horror streamers and vtubers are streaming it.
>>734947772>Won't have any impact on how well it doesIf Code Vein 2 is any indication, it will.You can't remove the coom from a franchise whose whole identity revolves around the coom and expect to sell the same.
>>734912136>Why let something as little as that control you over your enjoyment on a certain game?It's the idea of it by this point. That kind of shit used to not matter to anyone. Now it's like they have to tread lightly so they don't piss off fags on Reddit and trannies on Twitter.
>>734947959Bawk said he isn't going to stream it this week.
>>734946710>fatal frame>""""gooner""""This is your brain on /v/aggotry
Is there any way to tell if ghost is going to do the jumpscare attack?
>>734948668Not that I can tell other than you being in the view finder for too long
>>734868187FPBP
>>734944121They legally can't make games that are "uncensored" anymore because of laws in specific countries. Remember how Marie Rose went against a Swedish law? Also a lot of the clothing up of women comes directly from taking Saudi funds because they want women to wear burkas. Ironically we need to kill the extreme right AND the extreme left if we ever wanna go back.
>>734948668whenever ghosts teleport, back off.
>>734947292Just about everything trying to kill you in 3 is also a hot woman. No idea why people say that one is scary>AHHHHHH A HOT NAKED CHICK IS SLOWLY CHASING ME WHILE MOANING
>>734867263AKAKUUUUUUUUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpo9xJCXYkc
The game is sold out for physical everywhere around me on switch 2 is. that a good sign?
>>734867263Is this yuri?
>>734949352No; physical Switch 2 games always sell due to scalpers. FF2R was a massive commercial failure.
>>734949352No. It just means that yet another cheap DEmake is replacing the classics.
>>734943479yet another pointless demake.>>734942159>that's just not something modern devs are doing anymore.That's not an excuse, just a statement of the current industry's declined situation.
>>734948881Yeah show me them long limbed bitches
>>734925142>Is it comparable to RE2R or SH2R?No. The demake is more faithful to the PS2 original, but it has the modern issues none the less.
>>734917482I played the PS2 original trilogy for the first time during Corona. Been a huge RE and SH fan since day 1, and I cannot believe I ignored this series for so long.#2 is easily THE most overrated and meh of the OG trilogy, but 1 and 3 are superb.The demake looks fucking idiotic, and it's already the SECOND remake for FF2.
>>734949830>The demake looks fucking idioticNothing wrong with grafix itself. I'm just complaining about gameplay but I played it a bit more today and it does get better.
>>734948182Dude is currently on the re9 speedrun grind so it makes sense. Game has a lot of staying power
Only ever played 5, how does this compare? 5 was slow as shit and downright painful to get through at times with how much walking incredibly slowly you needed to do.
>>734949704Some of the devs probably have a wife that looks exactly like this, minus the crawling and pale skin. The true scary thing is what's going on in their marriage.
>>734949960If you didn't like 5, I doubt you'd like the 2 reremake. Mio moves just as slowl/slighty faster than Yuri and if she loses too much willpower, she'll be even slower. The story is much better than 5 imo but you'll probably get filtered.
Why should I use the push blind attacks instead of going for damage?
>>734950072Being slow in of itself isn't the problem, it's more that 5 kind of massively overstays it's welcome and is way longer than it should have been and you have to go back to the same areas over and over again which just makes it feel dull and repetitive.
>>734944961Focal points, then focus. Radiant is the "Double Barrel Shotgun" in combat. When the well ghost came out just like in the original, charged up Radiant special shot with 14-film halfway with full Focal points and it killed the ghost instantly.Radiant filters red and blue color filter also results in some neat pictures when you're fighting the red angry versions.
>>734950135Oh, well the original 2 did not have much backtracking iirc but I haven't played it in a long time and I'm only in the 4th chapter for the remake
>when you go nuclear
>>734949917I am not talking about the graphics, but the overall design and art style.The OG had RE x SH style cinematic camera angles that were used to guide and hide stuff from the players, with camera mode limiting you to a narrower FOV. Now, the exploration and combat are one and the same, and the combat aspect is a bizarre itself.
>>734949960>Only ever played 5, how does this compare?FF1-3 are the only good games.1 > 3 > 2.Play only the OG versions.
>>734950507expecting fixed angle in 2026 is just retarded bro unless it's indie. No corpos'd risk doing that.
>before the nerf>first four chapters was annoying as fuck to the point that ghost would aggravate multiple times and get their fucking hp back(I'm looking at you at the part where I have to fight two ghost for the first time in that small room)>once you get the radiant filter>game becomes ggez>post nerf>now the game is so damn easy that people have put in back the old patchThis is just bad game design to make the game annoying at the beginning and then later on it just becomes piss easy. I don't understand what the devs were thinking?
>>734949541>>734949591>1 minute apart Hmmm
>>734950507The game compensates with little visual cues when you play, usually when your flashlight starts flickering a lot, thats a sign theres either something to be photographed nearby, or you're about to get ambushed by a ghost. Other tiny visual hint is a colored tiny lens flare at the corner of the screens showing you items or blue ghosts.One thing I really like with the remake is that you actually get to see Kusabi roaming aorund the village instead of just the mansion. Since lorewise Kusabi first killed everyone inside the mansion and then proceeded to hunt down any survivors in the village. Other thing I like is that the village overworld gets significantly darker later in the game. Kind of reminded me of first Silent Hill when you enter the house backyard on your way to school.
>>734950681>zoomer post>disgusting and completely retarded babble about nerfing a fucking pve gameThank god no one is playing the game and you get zero interaction for your stupidity
>>734950619>No corpos'd risk doing that.>Better risk it by making a generic product that underperforms real hard
>>734950742FF2R underperforming has nothing to do with fixed angle.
>>734950742Fixed camera angle fags really are this delusional.
Fixed angle would've been based.
>>734950836>fagsit's literally one guy who seething for entire thread about game he doesn't even play
>>734950860Play Tormented Souls 2. It's based.
a cute. I am playing in Japanese but I tried English and the dub actually is not bad for once in a KT game
>>734950782> FF2R underperformingSauce?
I decided to close all doors before open them again
>>734950935Already did
>>734950714>KusabiI just found this motherfucker and I'm too scared to continue walking through the manor only because of that kill mechanicIf they were going to have him roaming like mr x this time, at least could've given a way to stun him
>>734950946Less than marathon numbers on steam
Your censored slop flopped lmao
>>734950946can't even reaching 5k cocurrent players is pretty sad.
>>734943479i love the game and the combat. i will probably have some nitpicks with some of the changes after i play more, but i like it a lot more than 4 and 5. the central mechanic in fatal frame is unique enough that even the mediocre entries are fun, and it feels like this is the first actual improvement of the camera fights since the ps2 games.
>>734950461>Crimson tome in the mansion shrine states in the ritual the weaker kills the stronger twin so stronger one can become a god and weaker one stays on earth as a saint.>Head priest journal say in the ritual the stronger twin kills the weaker to let the weaker one "rest" in Abyss.So which one is the original intended sacrifice? Yae/Mio or Sae/Mayu? Wii had an optional ending where Mio and Mayu switch roles but that wasn't exactly a happy ending.
>>734950982>I just found this motherfucker and I'm too scared to continue walking through the manor only because of that kill mechanicAll Fatal Frame games have at least one superghost that oneshots you and which you can only fight at the very end of the game.
>survival horror franchise known for copious amounts of fan service >remove fan service and piss off fans to chase the fictional modern audience that doesn't existThe blackrock money can't be that good, right?????
>>734951110I don't really understand why people play demakes. Just play the original, it's better and it's how the director intended it.
>>734951284
>>734867263Holy fuck the patch actually fixed the damage sponges. Thank god. Post patch regular ghosts very rarely go red, it's mostly bosses. And also after the patch seems most fodder ghosts take only a few shots to kill instead of 15 years. Nice.
>>734951284>known for copious amounts of fan serviceyou have never played Fatal Frame in your life
>>73495094Child abuse, decapitation, murder and sacrificial ritual are fine but apparently panties are too much for modern audiences. Hope that blackrock money worth every penny.
>>734951213>So which one is the original intended sacrificeAlways oldest killing the youngest
>>734951359>Hope that blackrock money worth every penny.You know it is. We all know it is. Kikes won.
>>734951332Zoomers have a brainrot so crippling that older games literally confuse and enrage them. I had a zoomer co-worker crash out over fixed camera angles in re1make.
>>734951345>And also after the patch seems most fodder ghosts take only a few shots to kill instead of 15 years.That was already the case once you just got enough focal point upgrades. Ghosts were just bit overtuned for the first 2-3 hours of the game given how stingy the game is with camera upgardes. Once you unlock the Radiant and start opening those blood doors you get showered in upgrades and the Radiant mode itself melts everything very fast.
>>734878437Some problem with princess maker thread. Shitposters and retards who never ever played the game would claim the game(official release) is CENSORED because the original's localized version was leaked and it had naked skin for developer purposes.
>>734951459Most people that boughted requiem are over 35+, who gives a shit about a failed generation.
>>734951380But then Mayu should be the one killing Mio. Yet the canon ending is Mio pushing Mayus adams apple in. Maybe its just a localisation error.
>>734951617No, in the original the twin born second is considered the older twin because they're letting the weaker one into the world first. I forget what the note is though but it should be in the remake
>>734951617Game literally explains it, they have different way to decided which twin is older, so player would think that Mayu would kill Mio for the entire game.It was big twist of fucking story originallyFucking zoomers and their need to watch let's plays. No wonder that cunt is keep spamming that first game is better, you don't even play fucking games
Did anyone find those things which let you equip more amulets?
>>734951351I own a physical launch copy of Fatal Frame 2 that I have beaten numerous times you tourist fuck.
>>734951502Might be that I can kill ghosts quicker because I have more focal point upgrades now, then. But still, thank fuck the regular ghosts turn red rarely now. Having almost every single ghost recover hp once and even twice sometimes was really exhausting. It's like a more annoying version of the blooming enemies from 4.
>>734951705>>734951739I already know that. The confusion comes from one religious tome saying weak one kills the stronger one and the head priest tome saying stronger one kills the weaker one. Is that just a case of localiser fucking up? Because I did spot typos here and there with the journals and tutorial texts.
>>734951806Yeah I bet you loved the fucking copious fan service in your launch copy of Fatal Frame 2 that you have beaten numerous times. Like the uhhh half second of looking up Mayu's skirt. How did they even get away with it.
>>734952148Noticed broken neck womans cleavage getting an upgrade but none of the falseflagging trannies crying about censorship played the game that far.
>>734951351There is a reason Fatal Frame is always compared to Senran Kagura and not to something like Silent Hill.
>>734952148>ghost cleavage >upskirt shots>cute girls >sexy alt costumes Begone tourist!
>>734951345I'm sure they never considered their balance over the multiple years it took to make the game and it took day one feedback to open their eyes. Couldn't possibly be that shitters are shitters and whining for no reason and they fucked up their game with unneeded nerfs like seemingly every other modern game.Thankfully you can downgrade.
>>734952934>Thankfully you can downgrade.what's the best way to downgrade? i tried using depotdownloader but the game version still reads as the latest one.
>>734951332>I don't really understand why people play demakes. Just play the originalThey (the ADHD wider audience zoomers) literally cannot.They ONLY own a PS5 and a smart phone. They don't know about anything else, and they have adopted the AAA corpohomo's "OMG emulation is... LE BAD!!" narrative.I kid you not. Look at any comment section of any promising PC-only game's / mod's reveal trailer, and you will nowadays see consoleplebs BEGGING for the game to come to their nogaems console.
>>734953116https://steamcommunity.com/app/3920610/discussions/0/809097225796048436/Does this not work to you? if not, I guess the way to go would be to pirate the launch version.
>>734951332>it's better and it's how the director intended it.The director probably intended for the kusabi to roam the village instead of being stuck in one room
>>734914060fags and your ilk are ruining video gamesgo hang yourself and join the rest of the 43% instead of shooting up kids
>>734953264no, i followed an older guide, but i will try this. thanks.
>always known for fan service>The series that was tame af and only got something on 4 and maybe 5You can tell who is a drone who only regurgitates what they were told instead of actually playing the game I dare you to actually show how coomer the game is cause outside of the zero suit on 4 most were pretty conservative
>>734954064This is a KT marketer post.
>>734954064It’s just the censorship schizo none of them actually play the game they complain about. Last time awhile ago he admitted he never played a single FF game
>>734954680Get fucked tourist
>>734952148>>734954064>>734954680Who are you trying to fool? I really hope you getting paid from KT because this is getting sad.
>>734954064>You didn't fap to the game>It's only a little bit of censoringThe moment you censor even a swear word or make a dress slightly longer intentionally you are completely lost. I will never spend cash on anything censored
>>734951332The remake has the same director as the original. The original was how he intended then, and the remake is how he intended now.
>>734955095>Those booksWow a real life schzio no wonder these threads have gone to shit with you around
>>734955232I included part of my book collection because I had a feeling it would trigger you plebbitors lol
>>734955160How do you feel about ps2 game censoring Miku's face and replacing face sprite with more "mature and manly" one, to pander western audience?Can you pinpoint all your posts in this thread shitting on original ps2 games for that? Or you just came here to complain about games you don't even play and shit thread?
>>734953264>>734953781confirming that this worked.
>>734955145>Kimonos are the same as having half naked womenWow so shitposters really never played the game kek News flash you wouldn't pay for the game anyway cause your kind only plays gachaslop completely f2poor so you are only a leech
I'm an IRL photographer, and I love first person games. I've never played this series before; do you guys think I'd enjoy it?
>>734955472>Other games censored/changed things too So?
>>734955451Whatever you say schizo, I guess saying how mentally ill you are nowadays is a weird flex
>>734955942Pretending to be retarded won't unflop your game marketing-kun, enjoy your ever last fatal flop because KT won't ever touch this IP again.
>>734955451Show us the rest of your collection so we know what to not read so we don't turn into you.
>>734956093I asked the questionWe have schizo promoting very "censored" game against you, and you are claiming to have stand against such thingsBut, for some "mysterious" reason you ignore promotion of "censored" games
>>734955232he included it to remind you that his life revolves around culture wars and that every aspect of life should be viewed through a political/cultural/idpol lens. it's the same way SJWs view everything. it's never about video games. larping culture war faggots have been at it on here for over a decade, and all their efforts have amounted to is making video game discussion worse on a taiwanese wood carving forum.
>>734956145>FlopThe voices in your head doesn't count as reliable sources btw
>>734956060Depends on how autistic you are about your profession being done accurately, I guess. Personally I tend to think it's neat when I see it portrayed at all, but some people just nitpick it to death.
>>734956265Why can't Fatal push wheelchair?
>>734956269Keep coping, your game couldn't even sell 100k copies.
>>734956431Sounds like you're the one coping though>He really thinks FF needs to sell a gorillion copies like Marathon to break even You culture wars fags are too dumb to be alive
All physical copies on the switch 2 sold out btw but I guess it doesn't count cause it's a flop according to the resident schizo
>>734956430the wheelchair handles you need to grab to move it are on the opposite side, rendering it impossible.
>>734956394How are the camera mechanics? How much is taking an actually good photo rewarded by the game?
>>734955095>Chud books Every single timeSurprised the photo doesn't have a swastika and a gun somewhere
>>734956116>>734956156>plebbit tourists so angry they got btfo
>>734956768Physical copies of Switch games are always bought in masse by scalpers.
>>734957368It matters but in a fairly abstract way. Like manually adjusting focus and zoom and switching filters and making sure you get a good shot of the ghost's face will do the most damage but it's not like it's judging it on any real artistic merit.
>>734957473why?who are they selling it to?
>>734957368you're rewarded for getting close shots when the ghost is right about to attack you as well as keeping them in frame.>taking an actually good photoit doesn't reward you for following the rule of thirds or anything, but getting a nice looking pic is its own reward.
>>734868187Sadly this.The girls appear to be aged up in their new models, but then they were censored anyways.Someone will make a mod to change the outfits, but I don't want to financially support a game that NEEDS mods to fix what the devs went out of their way to break.
>>734957473>D-doesn't countThanks for proving my point btwYou can surely back up your claims that only scalpers bought the game right?
>>734957412>on 4chan>complaining about chudsR u new????
>>734957518>>734957608Thanks Anons.>getting a nice looking pic is its own rewardTrue! Perhaps I'll get this as my own birthday present.Is there a way on console to save your best photos and show them to others?
Manual focus sucksMax out focus for faster auto-focus
>>734958221only through screenshots of your photos. as someone into photography and videography, it's fun playing a game with a camera mechanic. it has this annoying auto-focus at first but you quickly unlock the ability to manual focus.
>>734958765>>734958773the duality of man
>>734955145I’m not even a coomer but I miss the yukatas so much. The shorter ones were really cute. But I guess even a teenage girls exposed legs are literally pedophilia these days. These new outfits are peak SOULLESS.
>>734958824controller and keyboard
