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Is Defect the hardest hero?
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>>734910805
*regent
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>>734910805
I am struggling with the new Defect desu
New Silent is insane though.
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>>734910805
Just spam orbs
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yes
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You should be able to block with blade and it turns forge into block (reducing the forge for the amount blocked)
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What makes Necro’s Ethereal deck tick? Do I need to unlock more cards, because the ones I have now don’t seem great. I just started though.
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>first game hailed as the paragon of the genre every other deckbuilder should aspire to be
>incredibly tightly designed characters and cards
>watcher is busted as fuck but we gave the devs a pass because she was rushed out
>STS 2 comes out and every character has access to easy infinites and has blatantly unbalanced cards that never should have made it into the game
Was it all just a fluke? How did they seemingly learn nothing from making the first game and not leave some of these cards on the cutting room floor?
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>>734911770
I wanna say that it's EA so it's natural for the game to have tuning problems but it really feels to me like a lot of these infinites have to be intentional
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>>734911656
Just get parry bro.
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>>734911914
man parry is so fucking shit...
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>>734911870
I understand the "It's the release version of Early Access of course there's some balance issues" argument but some of these cards are so fucking broken and you know they are the second you read them. How some of these made it past a post it note never mind actually got coded into the game, given full finished art and shipped is beyond me. And the fact that they did make it in is worrying
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>>734911994
Yea kek.
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>>734910805
I've been having a lot of success building into a mix of status cards and 0 costs, so I'd probably say it's Regent
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Man for the first 20 hours this game felt good but the RNG shit is pissing me off now.
>Enemies throw damage at you except your only good block card is still in your deck
>You assumed you'd be fine into the first elite but you're almost dead going into the fight so die like a bitch instantly
Floor one elites feel like an insta-loss.
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>>734910805
Defect is unironically much easier now and actually versetile
>0 cost build is much stronger
>generating status cards can be beneficial to you
>subrutine thunder and storm makes power spamming viable
He is in a much better place, even if his ice orb build in absolute gutter
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>>734912016
>>734911870
>>734911770
You retards like the design philosophy of "fun? Nerf it" dont you huh? Who cares if you can get imbalance combos thats the only reason people play rogue likes is for god runs. No one wants to slog thru 12 shitty attempts to maybe get a god run. Stop trying to balance fun and play something else that does, like piss of exile 1 or shit divers
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>>734912146
yknow that fighting elites is literally optional right
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>>734912197
lol
lmao even
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>>734912249
Went down a path that looked fine with an elite at the end, but abysmal rewards and draws made me eat too much damage on the way and the floorsnakes trashed me. Hell if I'd been full health I still would've died.
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>>734912197
It's more fun when I beat the game after it tried its hardest to destroy my butthole.
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>>734912197
The thing is that the entire appeal of Slay the Spire is that it's a well tuned balanced experience that held up as newer games in the genre came out. There're dozens of deck builders now that let you make insane engines and loop for flashy cool wins that are way cooler with far more content and far more build options than StS. If the game isn't balanced, then it really has nothing going for it except the brand name. I could be playing Dawncaster and creating infinites using the enemy's decks or set up loud flashy Monster Train meat grinders.
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>>734912321
>end of act elite
>struggling

I guarantee you youre picking the worst cards possible
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sts whole deal is intricate balance tuning over time
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>>734912391
Floorsnakes? End of act? Bro I was like 6 rooms into the floor.
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Megacrit confirmed they sold over 3 million copies of StS 2 on their Neowsletter just now.
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>>734912403
That made sense when it was the team's first game and the team consisted of two dudes
Now they've got the first game under their belt plus 10+ years of experience making this exact game and still managed to design aspects of it this awfully. I don't understand how the same people who made the first game put Borrowed Time into the game and said "yeah this is fine"
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Steam Deck bros how does it run there
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>>734912515
they balance based on telemetry not their personal experience which will take some time
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>>734912515
I'm honestly fine with the game being unbalanced as is, even with regards to the cards that're blatantly too strong since there's an element of experimentation here. The thing that worries me the most is, what the fuck is the actual direction they want to take it?

Because you look at regent right, and I can't see any possible world where he ISN'T intended to go infinite to scale late. Like you look at Radiate and Heavenly Drill, or the way that Sovereign Blade needs to be cycled to be used repeatedly, and in what world are these real cards UNLESS they intend for us to loop? I thought the goal was to remove infinites but I'm really suspicious that the final state of the game actually will be balanced around us having to play for winning lines every run. So many bosses have effective timers on them before they delete your deck and almost no one has any way to check fast decks.
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>>734910805
I actually think the defect flows pretty well in this game. Certainly better than in StS 1.

If ordered by difficulty I'd say:

1. Regent
2. Ironclad
3. Defect
4. Silent
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>>734912146
act 1's damage is no longer balanced around attack and defend cards and you run into huge damage spikes if you don't have a card solution to it. I like the new difficultly except for act 1. I want it to go back to being balanced around attack and defends.
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>>734912197
kek the entire reason spire has a good reputation is that it's balanced, if you want goyslop you can just play any of the million clones that let you break the game every run
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Intangible is such a fucking shit and dishonest mechanic
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Beacon of Hope is such a fun card I like that they added multiplayer only cards, hope we get more.
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>>734912907
Genuinely WHAT THE FUCK are you retards building to struggle with this ezmode boss
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>>734912656
Balancing based on telemetry is the absolute worst way to possibly balance any game. It's an even worse sign that they designed these cards assumedly thinking they're fine and intend to balance them based on numbers devoid of context
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>>734912913
Wait what, I'm missing out on shit because I'm solo? That's fucked up.
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>>734912970
All act 3 bosses are bitchmode because if you survived floor one you're probably busted strong.
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>>734913092
most of the multiplayer cards buff other players. theres very few cards that are good in single player
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>>734913036
if only they had previous work that gave them the required experience to do satisfactory balancing decisions that everyone seemed to be happy with
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>>734912970
this shit dunks on doom build up hard core
so does that fucking elite worm with three permantly reviving segments. I got stuck in a fight with the latter for 30 minutes because there was no way to stop it from getting back up if you don't spread shit thinly over every segment.
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>>734913108
Aye the game difficulty is insanely frontloaded

The only real tough fights after act 1 is the hunter-killer and maybe the crab depending on your build


>>734913171
>worms
>shits on doom
Dude, doom has an aoe doom+block card and a huge doom aoe+insta kill card

what the FUCK are you talking about
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>>734912970
Test Subject is pretty easy solo, fucked up a ton of my co-op runs though
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>>734913154
Yeah if only. But with the current state of every character and the cards in their decks I'd believe you if you told me Mega Crit pulled a Hopoo games and sold the IP to Gearbox and pissed off because almost nothing in this game feels like there's 10+ years of game design experience behind it. If they had the required experience 60% of these cards wouldn't have released written how they are
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>>734913036
Hard data is one of the most useful design tools you can have
It just doesn't make a retards decisions less retarded, put an idiot in front of a dataset and expect his interpretation to be infallible and you end up with league of legends
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>>734912970
on A10 I genuinely think he is the hardest act 3 boss
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>>734913251
NTA but he is right, the worms elite is annoying to fight with doom because of his segments reviving instantly if they die to doom.
This makes it so that you have to kill all three at once in the same turn no matter what, and that means you're taking a lot of damage in the meantime unless you can block for 35+ reliably every turn
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>>734912907
>get block cards when it's immune to attacks
>get zero block cards when it's charging up a giant 50 atk cock straight into my asshole
Just get lucky. It's easy. Easiest boss in the game bro
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>>734913553
DOOM IS JUST SHIT

IT'S POISON BUT SO MUCH WORSE
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>>734913414
>Hard data is one of the most useful design tools you can have
It's true but after suffering through DbD once upon a time I understand the pain of bieng at the mercy of devs that only look at data and literally nothing else
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>>734913626
>DOOM IS JUST SHIT
Skill issue doom is strong. It's not the best thing Necrobinder can do but in no way is it weak to build into doom. Some doom cards have numbers that are just way too big and that makes up for any shortcomings the mechanic has. Plus death's door which lets you block for a million
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>>734913553
>segments reviving instantly if they die to doom.
I'm convinced youve never played the game before

If a segment dies to doom, then the following turn it makes its intent to revive, then it revives at the end of the following turn
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>play every day
>win easily
>play today
>loss streak
how the fuck do I deal with this?
i've lost 5 necro runs in a row, I am tilted
My runs have been very good with her it's just today that nothing is working it seems
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>oh god the worms are so hard to fight as necrobi- ACK!
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>>734912907
wdym dishonest it says exactly what it does
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>>734913615
If this is happening to you then you need to be choosing more card advantage or card draw.
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>>734913867
I'm yet to see this card.
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>>734913768
If you kill a segment with doom, it dies after taking an action. Then the next turn, it revives before the other segments can die to doom. Essentially reviving instantly before you can kill the other ones.
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Anyone else here constantly almost whiffing runs because of cluttered decks? My ape brain just wants to make the numbers larger. I can't help myself.
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>>734913768
not him and havent fought that boss with doom, but doom procs after the enemy turn. wouldnt the turn end, worm segments respawn, then doom kills the other segments, causing an infinite loop if you dont doom them all at once?
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>>734913615
>>734913894
just pick the diadem
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>>734913867
>Just guarantee you find this rare 3 energy card and draw it turn one to count this single fight
This joke is beat into the ground.
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>Get to sit dead in a multiplayer run for all of act 1 and half of act 2 because the best in every card reward has been a headbutt

Stop fucking me
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>>734913939
The rare card pool has been almost if not actually tripled for every character, it's really hard to see a specific rare on a given run now
>>734913974
Learning the strength of a thin and efficient deck is one of the keys to consistency in these games
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I hate silent so much I'm never winning a run with her
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>>734913993
If you dont have End of Days or Negative Pulse then you dont have a doom build, you have a meme build
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>get hellraiser and two pillages in act 1
>get no strikes or even iron wave
>die to sandworm putting in frantic escape
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>>734911770
>sts 1
>well designed
LMAO
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Not even close with today's daily
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>ice cream and Relax on defect
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>>734914115
I'm admittedly bad at this game and the first game but I think End of Days is one of the worst Doom cards in the game. I can't justify 3 energy for that effect unless it's the killing blow of the fight in which case it's a 3 energy brick for most of every fight. And if you've got a deck that gives you /5/6/more energy a turn why aren't you just looping souls and going infinite?
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>>734910805
Where the soundtrack at? It's not even good but there are 2-3 tracks that are stuck in my head I'd like to have
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>>734912197
>oh my science i just saw core-a's video on balance and now im an expert
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>>734913974
I definitely take too many powers
It's not my fault, they're all so broken, how can I say no
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>>734910805
Defect is the training wheels of this game
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Holy FUCK I love the status defect.
Literally infinite combo.
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>>734914428
defect is always easy early ascension then harder near the end when you can't just mash powers and if you get ice/focus cucked you die
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>>734914238
>3 energy(on a character that easily gets lots of energy) for a 29 damage AoE(37 upgraded) and synergizes even further with Misery
>bad

You are genuinely clueless

Literally the only time its a bad card is against artifact enemies
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On the Queen boss, should I just focus her or kill her minion first?

Her debuffs are really bad for me
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Does diamond diadem have a sort of anti synergy with hellraiser? Do the auto-played cards count toward the 2 card limit?
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>>734914527
If you have access to that much energy why are you building into doom? I feel like the doom archetype and the energy spam soul loop archetype are seperate decks that if they cross paths just makes an inconsistent mess of a deck
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>>734914559
if you don't kill the minion he starts doesn't insane amounts of damage, as soon as you pop him the queen does one big 7X5 hit then does mostly reasonable damage again until she ramps up to a another big hit etc
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>>734914559
depends
if you have a way to kill her quickly you should go for it, especially if your block kind of sucks. otherwise take it slow and steady and kill the minion first
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>>734914495
how so?
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>take 60 completely unavoidable damage for whetstone
yeah I think im done falling for the elite jew
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>>734914559
I've been surprised by people here agreeing she's the hardest act 3 boss when she's like the ONE enemy in the game I have a 100% winrate against.

She doesn't attack you before you kill the minion, so you ramp up with whatever setup you have and kill the minion at your leisure.

Maybe it gets harder at higher ascensions, I don't know. Does seem like an auto-win for me though.
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>>734914631
Why would they be separate when they synergize?

Dude stick to playing go fish
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>Act 3 boss in disguise
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>>734914570
In general, auto playing cards counts as playing them for effects like that.
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>>734914570
>Do the auto-played cards count toward the 2 card limit?
Yes. Anything that says play counts towards the limit, so Hellraiser counts, Sly counts, (Decisions, Decisions, Decisions) counts, etc.
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>>734914737
People who lose to the queen are most likely dopes who did not pick any card draw and actually get fucked by the bound mechanic.
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>>734914781
>rapes me in nightreign
>returns to rape me in STS2
t-thanks...
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>first time getting Whistle
>immediately remove exhaust
>just Whistle then headbutt every turn
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>>734914781
Really wish more of the bosses had hp triggers like champ/timelord
Almost every fight being a dps race is kinda lame
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>>734914781
This guy is always easy for me
I have to wonder, do people who lose to him click mind rot/sloth? I always go for disintegration every single time and generally don't have issues.
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>>734912502
hold on just a minute. Why is the gunslinger always announced with downfall? Isn't gunslinger a standalone mod? Or is it incorporated into downfall now?
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>>734914781
I just raped him again, it was fun.
>thunder
>THUNDER
>THUUUUUUUUNDER
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What the fuck is this trash? I don't even get to skip?
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Design some cards/mechanics that you think will benefit the star boy.
>A power that reduces the cost of Sovereign blade every time it's drawn.
>An attack/skill that refunds the cost of sovereign blade if lethal.
>An exhaust skill that reduces the cost of a card in the draw pile every time it's drawn.
>A relic/power that makes any and all cards with 'Minion' cost 0.
>A skill that turns a certain number of debris/status cards into a minion card, like minion sacrifice. This would enable him to run crash landing and collision course with more fun combos.
>A power that makes him generate stars every time he exhausts/transforms a card.
>Master reality from Watcher, which makes him upgrade all cards he creates, or at least one that reduces their costs.

I think something of this manner would tackle the main issues there are with his archetypes besides stars.
Forge is too slow and too costly. I saw in the patch notes that Refine blade used to give 2 energy and Spoils of battle used to be free. Dunno why the beta testers thought it was too much.
Most forge cards forge and do nothing else.
As for his minion/card creation archetypes, it is fun to say "Random bullshit, go!" when running Quasar and Manifest authority, but it's costly and unreliable if you don't have Void form down.
Minions are interesting, but I really think they need to be a tad stronger for what they are.
The huge amount of deck manipulation he has is also underused, so I think anything to do with his draw will be good.
Man, I love Regent. I hope they do him well.
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>>734914691
When you play all the powers the deck cycles itself constantly. You can generate enough status to hologram compact and generate more energy and draw more cards. I was playing coop and killed the act 3 boss in one turn by myself.
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>>734915058
Those are all good though. You have free damage, stun and energy if you don't have a power-heavy deck.
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>>734915082
I feel like the entire "minion" angle is under-cooked. There are plenty of star and sword themed cards but barely any cards that interact with minions.
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>>734915058
bottom is good unless you have a million powers, the whistle can stun anything (even if they have artifact)
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>>734914992
It was a standalone mod at the start, he was incorporated into downfall a long time ago.
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>>734910805
It’s gotta be regent.
He’s great when you get rolling, but you need to get so many stars to align (no pun intended) just to do what the others can easily blunder through.
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>>734911770
Yeah because StS came out fully baked.
Remember when Reptomancer was a hallway fight? Or when Immolation sucked dick? When the city's colosseum event was a double Nob?
The first game relied a lot on player feedback and it took them 1 year and a half to get it to the state it's today. The second one will too, it's why there's a dedicated feedback button.
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>>734914958
That's pretty good.
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>>734915203
oh...
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>>734915307
See >>734912515
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>>734912502
>3 milly copies sold
wew lad, it might have outsold marathon and pokopia combined.
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>>734915307
I'm waiting to see what the balance changes will be
I was expecting the week 1 patch to rebalance some stuff, but it didn't. Makes it kind of hard to judge where the game is going.
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>>734915474
They better rebalance that bee fuck. Its pretty much guaranteed death if you can't fill him fast.
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How the fuck do I play regent
>don't do forge
I tried other builds and those go worse than forge builds
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>>734914781
I legit thought I beat the game last time I struggled to kill this guy then realized I still had another floor. The floor was easy.
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Nerf Knowledge Demon, he's making me too fucking stupid
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>>734915528
I hate worm more, needs to just do a bit less damage to be tolerable.
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>>734915528
That’s every enemy, but especially bee nigger.
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>>734915565
His strongest stuff is looping energy and star generation to build up a massive amount of them and then dumping all of them into the cards that do massive damage for a lot of stars
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>already a loli regent mod
damn people work FAST
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>>734910805
>scrape
>pull 4 claws
>feral gives another one back
>beam cell for vuln
>70 damage claws
>have a bunch of frost giving passive block

simple as that
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>>734915662
Rename Regent to Oujo-sama.
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>>734915528
The bee man ain't shit. The real menace of act 2 is the stupid red dog. It is vicious and needs to be put down for attacking me.
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>>734915686
If you have that many Claws the Feral isn't even all that good. Holograms are as good as Claws plus also double as other cards as and when needs be.
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>>734915725
I think the community in general has decided it's not regent but ojou-sama because I keep seeing art of it
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>Flak Cannon is supposed to be the big pay off for self status cards
>8 damage per status you exhaust
oh wow I can do like 40 damage for 2 mana if I fill my deck with shit cards just to fill my discard pile with shit
At least trash to treasure and smokestack are good.
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>>734915773
I always think to myself do I really need that hologram? Then it's always good.
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>>734915661
I've tried that too but you need to get lucky to get all that stuff
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>>734915405
>>734912515
They're not remaking the same game. They made bold decisions to it wouldn't just feel like an expansion pack. They'll reel in some things and build up some others and it'll end up in the same spot balance wise as the original, you doompsoting NIGGER.
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>>734915426
Marathon would barely be a blip, you would have been better off just saying Pokopia lmao.
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>>734915878
Eh it's more to clear out your deck then actually do a ton of damage. Plus it's nice to have randomly against enemies that fill your deck with trash
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>>734914785
>>734914802
Thanks for the advice, steamrolled the boss in 2 turns. First time that I got hellraiser going, feel like it's gonna get nerfed in some way.
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>>734915686
Almost every time I take the 1 turn scrape I regret it. Last run I passed like 4 claws though so it would have worked...
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>>734915405
They're also trying new things so the gane won't feel like a quick cash grab.
Just because studios are experienced it doesn't mean they do everything perfectly, it means they'll know how to fix it.
The game's already better than I even wanted it to be. I trust Mega crit to make it even a better experience down the line.
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GG I hope you all liked your handjobs
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Alright shitters of /v/, give me your opinions on the Elites.
>Phroggy fuck.
Really fun. I love his mechanic.
>Byrdonis
Garbage damage race that really wants a weak, which sometimes you can't get before you face him. I think he has to start a little slower.
>Statue
Two turns is plenty for setup, but his first attack should be 15 instead of 25. After that he can rape by butthole with his stone-hard cock.
>Terror eel
It's alright. The free turn after you stun him is nice.
>Clusterfuck of eels.
Fun and balanced.
>Skulking Colony
Not a bad mechanic. I think he needs some more HP or tigher damage treshold because he doesn't really feel that threatening.
>Decimillipide
Not a bad concept. I like this fight more often than not.
>Infected Prism
Boring, but does it's job. Book of stabbing and Snake plant weren't fun either.
>Bee nigger
I actually grew to like this one, but I think he should start his first turn by applying his debuff. He makes any multihit deck a nightmare to get though.
>Knight Trio
Amazing fight. Reminds me of the pressure slavers put on you in StS1.
>Goblin Mecha Knight
Also good. I just wish there was an event where you get to curbstomp the little green shit to death for no benefit and a curse of Shame.
>Soul Nexus
Boring damage race. Needs an identity.
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The game would be much more balanced if you could only get 1 Elite relic per act
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>>734916192
lol thanks for osty. I really gimped myself by taking ectoplasm... but it worked out
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>>734915058
>"Ugh, a random attack that cost 0!? Can I skip?"
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>>734916245
>>Clusterfuck of eels.
>Fun and balanced.
I disagree. They feel way too overtuned for an early game elite because you need good aoe, and good burst damage and good defensives. Maybe it's just cause I mostly play on multiplayer, but they are never fun to fight. They should get a strength debuff or something when they submerge to defend themselves so you can manage them a bit more effectively.
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>>734915994
Hellraiser is basically an I Win card if you get Stoke too and have a bunch of pommels/other strikes.
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>>734915058
I wish this dude would show up more instead of Vaaku's (((deals)))
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Someone wanted a fem reagent that is still an alien?
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>>734912016
The main issue is enemies don't check your deck like they did in the first one. See nob forcing you to not start to already build your degenerate combo in act 1, act 2 being very brutal forcing you to have frontload and time eater plus heart having direct counters to card spam and infinite combos
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>>734911994
they need to bump it up to 12/15
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>>734916427
They are harder in multiplayer. In singleplayer they're fine
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Defect bros, pick 10
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Should I get StS2 if I'm still only around A10 in StS? There's so much remastered content that I ought to have another couple hundred hours in the original.
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>>734916358
Yes retard, I don't want random common garbage clogging up my deck.
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>>734916763
Yeah.
Ascencion 11 onwards in StS1 is pire ass, except for the ones that gave the enemies new movesets.
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>>734916763
dunno
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>>734916773
Its added to your hand, it doesn't say you have to play it.
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Hello I am an intern at mega crit and here is the updated elite for act 3 how do you like him?
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>Grave Warden +
>Friendship
>Countdown+
>On a Necrobinder run that could pivot into either a high energy doom deck or a high energy soul looping deck
The hardest choice I've ever had in either game
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>>734916439
>Hellraiser is basically an I Win card if you get Stoke too and have a bunch of pommels/other strikes.
It showed up on the next run already lol, no reason not to take it I guess
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>>734916597
I think act one is rough enough without enemies like Nob. Act two could use some stronger enemies, or hunter killer becoming an elite instead of the prism.
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>>734916735
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>game seems to have a fundamental flaw in >>734913615
>the "solution" just makes one of the most OP mechanics (card draw) necessary
Hmm...
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>>734916447
Jeweled mask is pretty good I guess.
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I've been playing this for a while and playing the necrobinder for a good second and never won.
I played the green woman and I win it with the first run- Poison is nice.
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>>734916861
stop horny posting
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>>734916839
It goes to the discard pile and gets redrawn the next deck cycle you troglodyte.
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>>734915565
You'll always want stars.
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>>734916735
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>>734916891
It's not about nob being too hard, it's about the threat of a nob encounter ending your run if you pick that shiny skill instead of the boring common attack putting you +2 cards away from an infinite
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>>734916873
>take the friendship
>friendship in the next shop
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>>734916953
Silent is top tier. She just does everything better.
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sorry guys i didnt have ascension unlocked on all my characters
ascension 2 LETS GO steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242645575049/76561198001291279
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>>734916930
retain also solves it as long as fights don't start off too dangerous, I played another STS-like which let you retain any card at the cost of -1 draw next turn and -1 energy (since you get more energy by discarding unused cards) and it worked pretty well
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>>734916735
Beamcel
Boost
Claw
Holo
Go for
TURBO
Compact
Overclock
Scrape
Smoke
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>>734917128
2/4 here
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>>734916245
>Act 1 elites
Consistently way too hard because they all some bullshit that's difficult to deal with when your deck is still in its infancy.
>get statue
>draw 3-4 blocks on your dedicated "setup turns"
>get bird
>issue you described
>get infested frog
>don't have any AoE
etc.

The only ones I don't mind are terror eel, coral man, and occasionally the clam. Man, maybe I should just reset if I don't get underdocks... I agree with the rest of your post, though. I like the goblin in a mech suit a lot, honestly.
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>>734915662
WHERE?
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>>734917047
It's also not about Nob being too hard.
It's that the game is a lot more flexible than the first. StS relied a lot on frontloading damage, StS relies on AoE.

A Nob type enemy would make for a killer act 2 fight though. Deck checks should come by then.
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>>734917152
I was thinking that the solution should be something like a trade-off mechanic like that, but I'm not familiar enough with the genre to know what would be a good idea. Having a free mulligan once per fight would be bad, it has to come with some sort of real opportunity cost that only makes it worth using if you're just giga-fucked by a bad draw for no reason.
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>>734912970
I don't think he is that hard but he definitely can screw you over if you let him get enough wounds into your deck on the 2nd phase.
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>>734917234
There's an unfinished one on korean forums and a different one on some guys PAID patreon that I don't want to link because then I'd be advertising some dudes patreon
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>>734910805
>wants to be the anti-coomer thread
>posts lust provoking image
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Does anybody get to act 2 and then realise they're cooked?
Just looking at this deck I know I'm not going to win
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beat defect a10 and silent a10 today.
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>>734917259
Deck checks in act 2 are too late, it's important that the game prevents you from building degenerate shit for free from the get go
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>>734912970
he does a lot of constant damage. 30-50 every turn regardless will fuck up any deck that doesnt have block
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>>734917378
I remember when people did shit like this and released it for free for the pure love of the degeneracy. Patroon ruined modding.
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>>734915662
Reminds me of Princess Devilotte de Deathsatan XIII
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COME JOIN ASCENSION 2
2/4
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>>734917491
Well the korean one is going to be free whenever it's finished. Else wait for the patreon one to be up on kemono.
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got potion belt + alchemic coffers + delicate frond. saved two Entropic Brews from all the potion rolls up to the two final bosses. didnt think id make it without dirge spam but some other bullshit saved the run. A10 defeated
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this nigga lost as regent today lmao
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>>734917530
3/4
COME JOIN
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>>734917574
Damn, is he me?
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clear example of why doom will never work. it's too hard to block while applying doom.
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>>734916245
>I just wish there was an event where you get to curbstomp the little green shit to death for no benefit and a curse of Shame.
Kill him with Doom and he gets dragged into hell instead of escaping.
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get fucking doomed ya conehead
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>>734917574
So?
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>>734912628
Runs fine, just like 1 does.
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>>734916245
how TF do you have more trouble with byrdonis than the phrog parasite
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>>734917513
How do the japanese come up with these kinds of names? What kind of crack are they smoking?
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>>734913867
I tried getting this card but RNG fucked my ass and I never saw it. I beat the run but those worms were so fucking annoying to put down.
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You ever like 2 floors in and just KNOW it's gonna be a god run
>get pearl and floor 2 shop sells me relic that boosts my orb count
>get a bunch of orb spam relics
>get relic that makes me do 30 damage to all enemies when I channel 7 orbs
>get cards that do damage based on orbs channeled
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>>734917718
>name is just devil+charlotte
WOoooaaah how do those crazy japanese do it!
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>>734916735
every power and 0 cost.
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>>734917718
They're retarded and have absolutely no cultural contact with English except when it's used to generate "cool" names for anime.
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>>734917849
>easily clean every single room 2 and forward
>struggle my whole run and die at a2 boss
and i dont even know what i did differently
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>>734917921
I'd rather what the Japanese are on than what western ""game"" makers are on honestly
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>>734917849
i usually know if im going to win by the 3rd floor 1 elite.
if i live, its a win.
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>>734917679
nta. phrog USUALLY gives me more trouble but if you have good damage with some reliable block and aoe, you can wipe the first form before he gives you another set of infests and without taking much damage, and nuke the spawns. Byrdonis is going to chunk you for some almost always regardless of your build.
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>>734917413
Is this a joke post? You have a good deck right there, just get rid of your basic cards, get some more draw and maybe a better stars payoff than devastate.
If you lose in act 2 with this its a skill issue.
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>>734918073
Unironically it feels like act 1 makes or breaks the run so much of the time.
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>>734917574
Give him time, he had a pretty remarkable winrate on sts1, and he's experimenting a lot for content too.
I think he's said that he's not tryharding for now and just enjoying the slow climb to max ascension.
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I HATE BRIDGES
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Should I be playing on the public beta?
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>>734917906
You have autism
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>>734917574
that's his second loss ever and he's already A6-9 on all characters btw
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>Defect
>A0
>Get a free random card at the start
>All For One
And there's my entire fucking build.
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>>734918232
probably but it doesnt matter
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Okay, bridges, but they’re made out of millipedes.
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What should I pick? Playing regent btw.
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>>734918170
I was watching him since /v/ mentioned him to learn and it's very evident he's fucking around while he explores the game yeah. Shotguns turns and then immediately acknowledges the misplays before he ends turn. I appreciate seeing that a lot more than a lot of the guides that're floating around where you click into them and the player is on A3 telling you how to play.
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>>734918313
Well, what does the rest of your build look like
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I'm going to lose my fucking mind
I can't win a run today
I feel so unlucky right now, so much bullshit just hitting me
I think my last 5 ? rooms were hallway fights, this is bullshit
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>>734918238
Be that as it may it doesn't make me wrong
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I hate floor one.

I HATE FLOOR ONE.
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>>734918313
Nightmare always has potential to be funny and regent has the energy generation to support it.
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>>734918330
His current StS2 content is him vibing with the chat and having fun.
You just have to watch any StS1 run where he gets frozen eye to see some great locked in turns.
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>>734918313
Nightmare if you have a good target for it. Maybe serpent form if you're all in on starspam and playing a lot of cards per turn.
If none of the above then I guess you can take fan of knives as just a one off aoe card, 16 aoe for 2 energy isn't so bad.
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Where are the sexy enemies?
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>>734918313
BIG OL SKIP
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>>734918313
>get bigbang
>put nightmare on it
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>>734913867
You took a picture of your monitor?? Bro your shift+win+s? Your F12? Your PrntScr??
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>>734918421
I was watching one of his Regent runs today and he skipped all elites in Act 3. Is that the meta? his deck looked pretty strong as well, I think he took zero damage against the queen.
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>>734917536
then waiting will continue.
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>>734918395
3 defends make you immune to that
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>>734918313
Nightmare + Royalties
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>>734918313
i just had an a10 win with serpent form. it wasnt needed and i dont think it's worth playing pretty much ever
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>>734910805
im 0-10 on necro, defect is way easier
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>>734916245
I think eels and centipede are the most difficult fights for those points in the game, unless you have some pretty good AoE options. Everything else you can circumvent with potions but there's rarely any potions that can quickly save you from those fights, not even explosive. The most helpful is thorns since it enables turtling as a strategy (they multiattack a lot) but otherwise they're miserable.
The rest are ok, not even beefag bothers me that much. The centipede will very easily hit you for more than 30 very quickly every single turn if you don't deal with any of its parts quickly. Which is easier said than done when he's always hitting you for at least 20 on the first turn, and it requires spread AoE weaken to mitigate (unless the beefag or the dorito, that you can bonk with a single minus str effect or a single weak effect)
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Just had this stupid ass run. Once it got online I just blocked for a million every turn while building up massive amounts of doom and making a huge osty
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>use entropic brew
>get another entropic brew
Holy shit what a high roll
I love gambling so much
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>>734918582
I think I saw that on one of his videos too and his point was that, since there's no heart or act 4 to get stronger for, he'd rather keep his HP at max and his potion belt full to blow everything on the boss.
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Do I just win now?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242647664123/76561198149672785
multiplayer anyone?
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>>734918582
It's very possible and even pretty likely that if you make it to act 3 or even in some cases just past act 1 you have a deck that can steamroll the entire rest of the game and once you hit act 3 you can skip every enemy
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>>734918854
You still need some pommel strikes.
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>>734918854
2x pommel strike then exhaust as many card as you can and that should be an infinite
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>>734917574
He’s the only spire streamer I can stand.
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Regent never gets offered any fucking block cards
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>>734917718
Her name is lovely, she is an angel, and I will not have you disparage her in anyway.
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>put swift 3 on Undeath
>the copy it automatically creates also has swift 3

HOLY SHIIIIIIT
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>>734918984
same
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fuck you osty, you unplayable piece of shit
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>>734918259
Defect 0 cost builds feel dramatically more consistent than StS1. But focus/frost feels less so.
It's a weird power shift.
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>>734916280
What's an elite relic
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>>734919393
Feral is just such a fucking good card, but honestly the real problem here is floor one elites being way overtuned.
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>>734918614
I had a run where it was one of my main damage sources along with fumes. Silent can spam draw and block pretty hard, so having a card solve late game damage like that can sometimes be pretty nice
I do agree that for a lot of decks it's probably overkill and hard to get into play, so it's probably only good if you're a super slow deck with no damage.
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Maybe I'm just imagining things, but has anyone else noticed that you only get the upgraded version of your signature card if you had it upgraded it in the previous act?
I can't remember ever getting the option from an ungraded card
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>>734919393
had an amazing 0 cost build today with snekko eye
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>>734918793
I love the frond. One day I want to combine it with Orobas potion blessing.
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The daily modifiers reset so I'm gonna host a casual daily run
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When its out of early access and sucks, we have only ourselves to blame.
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>>734919393
Feral and claw having more scaling is what truly holds the build together.
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love this little nigga
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>>734919521
You can get it from unupgraded. They don't actually expect anyone to upgrade Bash more than once in a blue moon
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>>734919521
that's how it works. I haven't tried it myself but apparently the maul transform from the lion also turns upgraded cards into maul+. Which is not how transform normally works so it's kind of weird if that's true, but it's consistent with the other ancient at least.
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>>734919572
Need one more here. Gonna give it two or three minutes
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>>734919612
How do you make him take shit cards he always takes my good cards
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>>734919612
Is the probability of it stealing a card strictly random or skewed in favor of cards of certain rarity?
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>>734919572
3/4
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>>734919716
going off the in game patch notes he always takes uncommons and never enchanted cards
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>>734919612
I fucking hate him. He's never stolen any of my cards but he always does good damage to me
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>>734919572
Too late for me

shit
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>play like shit with reagent
>void form in last reward before boss, free win
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>defeat boss
>get orange card pack
>they're all shit
>skip the reward
it's such a bitter feeling
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>>734919472
Feral is insanely versatile, yeah. With an upgrade for 1 cost it's great on every run, but disgusting on 0 costs
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>>734919925
>lose half my hp fighting a hard elite
>card rewards are bad
>relic reward is bad
Sometimes I wonder why I even bother doing these.
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>>734919868
>Someone joined
>We all readied up
>He left and it immediately sent us in with 3 instead

Sorry mate. Maybe next time
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>>734919612
he was a bro and took a bouncing flask I didn't need
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>>734911559
I keep dying with her and can never get a good mix of sly, draw and block
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>>734919976
Sorry. Had a problem with my window and needed to go back to the menu
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Was Catalyst outright removed? Seems very harsh, rather than just a nerf to cost or the multiplier.
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>>734910805
Is the game rigged? I just savescummed my way to this, but it felt like there was always a most optimal move to take
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>>734920102
Replaced with bubble bubble I'm pretty sure
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>>734920102
you have accelerant which is doing the same role. Not the lame level of multiplicative scaling compared to multiple catalyst but one for one still doubles or triples your poison damage
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>>734920025
act1 is the hardest, you need anything to survive the first elites
poison is pretty good for most elites
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F, left path locked us into a shitty situation.
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Not even mad we lost. Game trolled me by leading me into a status build in act 1 then giving nothing but orb cards after I took all stuff that drops my focus
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>abandon run from main menu
>single player / multiplayer are unclickable
I shouldn't have done that I guess
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Why do streamers always say we?
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SORRY GUYS I TOOK US A HORRIBLE ROUTE
I FORGOT 3 BOSSES IN A ROW IS REALLY BAD
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>>734920206
>savescum
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>>734920341 (me)
Figured it out, just had to unlock an epoch in Timeline
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>>734920356
THIS IS ASCENSION 2
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rip
>double panache
>didn't get 0 costs, draw, dirge, or any other good way to generate souls
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>>734920356
>>734920408
OPEN TO ANYONE
ASCENSION 2
SORRY GUYS I TOOK US A HORRIBLE ROUTE
I FORGOT 3 BOSSES IN A ROW IS REALLY BAD
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242649498245/76561198001291279
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>>734920359
just wanted to see the right moves before abandoning the run
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>>734920206
yeah, stop playing standard and go for a sealed deck if you're doing the higher ascensions so half your cards aren't dogshit strikes and defends.
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I firmly believe that 0 elite runs are the way to go. Unless you have a busted infinite they're just not worth the trouble.
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>>734920356
its fine, i got hellraiser and shit for pommel strike if any strikes at all.
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>>734920342
Because he's including (you)
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>>734920460
GUY IN LOBBY YOU ARENT ASCENSION 2 BRO
40INCESLOLI
YOU ARENT ASCENSION 2
ASENSION 2 ONLY
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>>734920540
That's essentially my philosophy. I avoid elites if I can, unless my deck is potent enough that it's just a free relic.
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>>734920568
what a based name
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>>734920359
It can be a good tool for learning lines through a fight as long as you aren't using it while considering the draw order or other random things.
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3 randoms and 1 silent turns into 4 silents
is it rigged
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>>734911656
>Each forge should generate a new blade if you aren't holding one
>Using a blade should use it up
>Blade should also cost 1 mana
>There should be a power which allows you to retain the blade
That's my half assed attempt
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>>734919612
>pick early game shitter card I desperately need for act 1
>bug bro removes it for me after
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>>734920879
thanks for the laugh bro
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>>734920879
This is why savescumming was invented
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>>734920879
>24 cards in deck
>playing overlock without the ability to transform the status
>into the waterfall boss
anon..................
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>>734920879
you know you can choose not to kill it and wait a turn if you're going to draw your whole deck like that right? especially when it's full of burns for some reason. It's not like the explosion is that much harder to survive if you wait a turn.
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>>734920879
shouldn't've been geedy
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>>734920879
the architect laughed
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>>734918854
Finally got one pommel strike bros!
Just need one more to go, haha!
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>reach any elite in act 1 A1
>they just hit for 15+ each turn
it wasn't like this in StS1, right? I don't remember act 1 being this hard even at A10
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>>734921074
a bit late to look for pommels
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>>734920879
>24 cards at the end of act 1
remove some cards bro
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>>734920879
Pay the price for your greed, foolish automaton.
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>>734920879
*AHEM*
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>Do another Defect A0 run
>Swear to avoid all F1 elites
>Cruise to victory with a Claw deck
Yeah they need to rebalance F1.
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>>734920540
It's especially important for regent. He needs upgrades for increased star generation and it's not happening if an elite dicks you down and you can barely walk to the campfire.
The path of most campfires and ? and least elites is often times the best for him
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This event is genuine shit I always get the free card during rest relic
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>>734921373
I always get the hand drill. At least it's not bad if it's free.
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>>734921373
Nah this event gave me Distraction and that shit was pretty gud.
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>>734915058
>Ugh a 33 dmg card that stuns the enemy?
>This sucks!
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>>734921590
Likely have a toggle option like in StS1.
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>>734921012
>>playing overlock without the ability to transform the status
This is honestly fine if you only need ~1.5 cycles to kill
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>>734921687
Yeah the issue is doing it into the waterfall giant, without any get out of jail potions or anything. Anon cooked his deimse.
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>>734920879
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HOSTING
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242651074309/76561198043831607
I'm the guy that stopped piratefagging and bought this for real last night, just so I can multiplayer with you guys here like a decade ago.
>he bought
Yes I did
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>the two spergs are nowhere to be seen on a friday night
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i'm too good at this game i can't enjoy it like i nolifed slay the spire 1

>restart over taking an extra 3 damage on a fight
>restart because of xyz
playing ascensions is autism
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>get a good run going with Ironclad
>3 upgraded copies of that card that gives you 1 energy for every attack card in your hand
>upgraded pommel strikes for more draw
>upgraded shrug off for even more draw
>+1 draw on first hand relic
>even have a relic that gives me a random card at the beginning of combat, and get demon form on the boss of Act 3
>literally nothing can stop my build except something that cucks my damage AND is able to attack on the same
>tfw
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>>734921373
This is one of the most unbalanced events because half of the cards/relics were removed because they were dogshit and the other half were removed because they were OP. You're getting a Dead Branch or a Darkstone Periapt, no in-between.
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>vakuu plays your turn for you
Bros this is really tempting
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>>734921829
DUMP IT
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I think he's dead
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>>734922115
I've never not taken that and it's always gone well in the end
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>>734922115
I rate it more highly than the rose, fuck that thing.
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Walking into the fucking worms without Aoe makes me want to kill myself holy fuck
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>can't reduce the cost of Sovereign Blade
>can't have more than one Sovereign Blade card because of how Forge functions
These are my biggest gripes with Regent blade builds. Star builds just allow instant pain but sword builds take forever to do right.
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I was skeptical of Sly cards at first but now I can't imagine playing Silent without them. Why were these never in STS1? It actually makes the discard feature of the Silent's deck more complete.
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>>734922359
You can reduce the cost of the blade, to 1.
You just have to upgrade it with a potion
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So if vakuu plays my first turn is he actually going to do a decent job at it or is he going to play like a total fucking retard troll?
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>>734922402
There were some cards with Sly-like effects but it was only made into an official keyword in this game
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>>734922469
Dude is a butt ugly demon what do you think?
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>>734922130
this nigger is so unbalanced compared to the rest
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>>734915082
>>An attack/skill that refunds the cost of sovereign blade if lethal.
I'd like this one.
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>>734918582
Often when I have a strong deck that doesn't really need anything else I also just pick the fastest route to the boss.
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>>734922469
He plays from left to right. No thought process, just plays it if you have energy
>what if you generate more energy
idk
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>>734922402
They existed they just weren't called Sly. Sneaky Strike Reflex, and Tactician all functioned similarly.
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I'm hard stuck on A10 with Ironclad. Act 1 keeps fucking me even when I play conservatively.
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>>734922506
Silent was the most busted for me personally
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>>734922564
A10 is the max difficulty so you're not really stuck, you reached the top
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>>734922564
Time to fudge it with a Sealed Deck
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>>734922665
Lets talk about the real cheaters, sealed deck fags thinking their a10 wins count.

They're unironically worse than savescummers.
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>>734919709
you can't, he always takes uncommon cards if able and curses last of all. maybe if you go infinite on turn 1 and exhaust your whole deck.
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>>734922665
Nigger I'm not putting 45 cards in my deck
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>>734919668
I think deck transforms actually do that way but the in-battle transform cards don't
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>>734922665
Post your "didn't skip or remove" A10 clear
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SORRY I TRIED
I DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING UNLOCKED WITH REGENT YET
I SIMPLY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH BLOCK
AND I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR HOW MULTIPLAYER WORKED
I did still have fun though, thank you other player.
REHOSTING
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242652548528/76561198043831607
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It's statistically likely that if you join a game from this thread you're playing with an actual homosexual.
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>>734922834
Why would I play a10? its pure rngslop
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>>734922895
*raises paw* yeah me :3c
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>>734923024
100% tent, knife trap is overrated especially early in the run
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>>734923024
How many shivs you go in your deck?
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>>734922917
two faggy takes in a row, a third one and you're out
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>>734923024
Tent is underpriced, take that shit every time. I actually think they'll nerf it and up the cost
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>>734923024
Unless you have a good shiv deck already, get the tent
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>>734919572
>That radiate and voltaic build up

Holy shit. Neow fed ya'll all the good cards

>>734920070
No worries lad
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>>734919572
GGs, we had a rough start but we destroyed the late game. Voltaic is a bit ridiculous.
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>>734922359
You can do both of those things, upgrade the blade card to make it cost 1 and dupe it to get multiple swords
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They really need to buff the relic pool, currently elites aren't worth the danger 90% of the time
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>>734923073
If it has to be nerfed, I'd hope for something like "tent breaks after 5 campfires".
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>>734923384
Act 3 alites are super easy too which is kind of whack.
They'll figure out the balance.
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>>734922724
People don't really do that right?
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>>734923347
How? There is no Sovereign Blade card in your base deck to upgrade or dupe. It only gets added during combat after using any card with Forge.
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Blade Dance being given Exhaust is some shit
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>>734923024
Without any restsite relics I think tent is still good enough to consider. When you have one (which you do, the pillow) it's kind of hard to pass up the value it gives.
You do need to consider that if you take a super safe path and the heal doesn't do anything then the tent didn't do anything.
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>>734923568
there's the relic that upgrades attacks and skills when played and there's forge potions. Technically armaments but that's obviously pretty rare.
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>>734920568
whatever bro
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>>734923605
I find it helps keep my deck lean. Blade Dance spam is only really maximized when you have knife trap, though, but the game never fucking gives me; that card unless it's early in act 1 and there's no way I'm taking it before I have a shiv deck.
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who trynna slay dey spire tonight
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>>734923605
the pros say its a buff
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>>734924142
The one I saw said it's a huge nerf to the shiv archetype as a whole since it's one of the main bridge cards for the archetype. In sts1 you take it because it does good early damage and if you see more shiv synergy later it plays together. Now since it exhausts you need to consider your draw order so something like tanking an accuracy to help in longer fights isn't a thing anymore.
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>>734921590
Is the
>BEEEAAAAM!!
referencing something?
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Which character is the best for a retard? Pic rel as my retard certification.
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>>734924464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tBE9zdEn2c
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what're we takin bros
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>>734924494
play silent
pick every card that says "sly" or "discard"
congratulations on your win
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>>734924494
silent with discard build
necro with doom and block
defect with frost and 0 cost cards
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>>734924559
omnislice is better early game
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>>734924559
Omnislice all the way
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>>734924569
I tried that and lost a few times
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Sorry Silent guy, we lost again. You're definitely better than I am at this. I should have Burning Pact'd those Frantic Escapes because they clogged the hell out of my hand. Rehosting, this'll be the last one from me for tonight
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242652548528/76561198043831607
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>>734924658
Then the issue is piloting your deck correctly. Your best bet is to play ironclad and pick the big attacks and eventually you can win that way. Probably.
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>>734924832
I also got clone doll forgot about it and tried to abuse bullet time so it might be that
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https://www.makeship.com/products/silent-sts2-plushie

we are so back
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>>734924814
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242655537401/76561198030802028
Another game since the other doesn't work it seems
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>even dsp can play silent
https://youtu.be/_4E_ODuoas0?t=6688
kek
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>>734925125
3/4 1 more
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>>734925125
Thanks. I gotta say one of the best things about this multiplayer is you can see other peoples' cursors on your screen doing stuff and pointing at things. It reminds me of using Parsec to multiplayer with a friend once
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shit was easy as fuck
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>>734925203
AND LET'S NOT FORGET the time-honored tradition of spinning around in circles on killing a boss or as a gesture of victory celebration, dating back to the original Dark Souls 1 days though I don't know if it dates to before that with any other game
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kek, glad i got to sneak out that heavenly drill finally. it was in my opening hand from a potion.
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Sorry I didnt know coop had its own ascension rank
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skip option mod when
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Not a fan of ironclad's new design. His old dragon helmet was really cool. New one makes him look more like a snake
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>>734924559
Omnislice solves the act 1 bacteria nigger elite
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If I'm not good at the game how badly would I be torpedoing you guys in coop?
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>>734925381
i've been there and i just avoided shops for act 3
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>>734925381
Vakuu is so based
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>>734925387
he wants to match his gf
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>>734925381
>20 cards act 3
Remove 5 and hellraisermaxx
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>>734925381
Folly is pretty good
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>>734925381
This guy is like the opposite of vakuu, I can't decide which one I want, they all sound so good.
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>>734925637
dusty tome
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>>734925637
That guy gave my Defect quad cast, absolutely saved my run
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>>734925381
How many of those 20 cards do you actually need? fog is going to slim down your deck a shitload
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How am I meant to reliably generate 40+ block every turn on Defect while also deal enough damage to survive strength scaling?
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>>734925740
in my experience it's either frost + focus or bulk up + tons of regular block cards
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>>734925670
It was between that and black star, yours was the deciding vote.
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>>734925740
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>>734925740
ice orbs and focus

perchance
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>>734925740
Claw Claw Claw Claw All for One Claw Claw Claw Claw
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>>734925706
that guy gives you biased cog. The other eye worm guy gives quad cast.
>>734925740
frost orbs and focus. A small deck makes it easier to play your temp focus cards every turn.
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how cum when me plahys necrobinder i always feels in control of me run and can diverify if me wanted two but whens me plays regent i always needs specific cards or i wants to kill myself likes the only comfy characters is defect ands necrobinder then maybes silent buts if you get no discard or no enables if yous get poison or something it feels bad ironclad is just runs of the mills normal games nothingg special to thinkings about
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>>734925792
how does one get 1666 at the start of act 2.....................................................
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>>734910805
The throne dude is the only one I suck with
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>>734925637
Opposites for me. Besides giving you full art cards all the the other options from this guy are just the old boss options which I find underwhelming compared to the new newer ones.
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>>734925882
star cards are the good ones. His other cards are just worse. Stuff like bulwark is good enough value to take early, but you should be focusing on stars.
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>>734925615
>hellraisermaxx
instructions unclear
made it work with stampedemaxxing
>>734925717
pretty much all of them except the normal strikes i cut
iron waves block scales with strength for some reason by the end of door fight i had like 100 block from that stupidity
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>>734925862
He left his seed in the image, play it and find out.
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>>734926241
no
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Can anyone remind me what this guy does?
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>>734926259
Then you will forever wonder, the doubts will eat at you until the end of time.
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>>734926264
How do you pronounce Fysh?
Come on faggots, record yourselves saying it
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>>734926264
Spams status cards that deal damage directly to health if you have them in hand at end of turn. Block doesn't prevent it, you need discard / exhaust to get rid of them.
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>>734926302
i know he's either cheating or using a custom option, don't need to waste time on it
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FUUCK I don't know what to pick I have fucking potion belt
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>>734926264
>>734926324
Also does an intangible thing every few turns where he'll only take 1 damage from every hit
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>>734926353
You can see at the top of the screen he has customs on. Sealed deck, flight, and whatever the burning question mark is.
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>>734926439
yeah I think it's the daily someone posted before
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>>734925950
I feel like my problem is I either end up with too many star builders or spenders. Theres a ratio I havent quite figured out yet
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anyone for a10 multiplayer? you have to have it unlocked or you can edit in the unlock for it
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>>734926395
God I love this fat bitch getting fed Fruity relics, she always blesses my run with a BONER too
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>>734910805
Am I stupid or are some of the enemies unbalanced as hell?
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>>734926395
Delicate Frond and it's not even close
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>>734926564
the whole game is unbalanced at this stage
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>>734925740
Full lightning spam is by bar the strongest deck. Just gotta find the right cards.
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Corrosive wave for the Silent is fun
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>>734926564
Early Access is unbalanced, yes
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>>734925125
i was disconnected bros...
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>>734926694
can't rejoin?
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>>734926693
>had years to figure out how his game actually works
>still needs other people to do the work for him
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>>734926694
Defect bro... Exit and reopen Steam?
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>>734926571
Glitter is crazy powerful if you get good drops.
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>>734926753
whenever you add new things they will need playtesting yeah
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>>734926735
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242655537401/76561198030802028
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>>734926395
frond dude. it carried me in a10. its fucking nuts.
>>734917545
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>>734926782
Glitter is crazy powerful but if you have potion belt Frond is really the only option, four potions every combat just lets you win everything.
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>>734926753
>look at me, I don't understand stats, I am retarded
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>>734926795
>this game no longer exists
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>>734926831
neither does the dev I guess
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>>734924559
Omnislice. Add sharp to it, upgrade it, and get that relic that plays your first attack twice. It's free damage my dude,
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>>734926323
I just say it like fish
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>>734926835
gay. I hope they figure this shit out
Try again
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242658459717/76561198030802028
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>>734910805
Nah he continues to have the best Act 1 which is the hardest part of the game. I find his Powers to be more lacking now though. Hardest to play is Regent if only that I do better when I ignore most of his card rewards.
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If I enchant Anger with Vigorous, do the extra copies get the enchantment?
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>>734917234
Anertailin or something. He does a lot of feminized STS mods. You should be able to find his workshop pretty easily on steam.
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>>734926875
why not feeesh though
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>>734926906
yes, it adds a copy of the card
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>>734926885
I'm in
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>>734926906
Would it just be used though? Since it first deals damage and then copies it, so it'd just be a used copy.
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Reminder to switch to the public beta build for more fun (potentially)
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>>734927061
I thought the same thing, which is why I asked. But >>734926950 was right
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>>734921590
>hey, look how hard I can BEAM!
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can you rejoin silent?
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>>734927224
kek
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>>734926950
can confirm.
>>
FRICK
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>>734927061
It actually copies when played, and then deals its damage. The animation is just deceptive.
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This art isn't final... right? They just forgot to put "placeholder" on it.
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The artstyle and obvious woke bullshit mar an otherwise decent game
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>>734927532
mods will fix it, unironically
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Silent bro are you still there? Please restart steam or something
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game needs to be more difficult in act 3. could maybe be slightly easier in some act 1 elites. i've never once lost in act 3.
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>>734927513
card art doesn't have placeholder on it, but a lot of it is
Apparently the new beta gave this option from the knowledge demon final art
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>>734927532
how is it woke
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holy shit slippery bridge actually hit something good on the first try
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>Silent player DCs
>then Defect player DCs
Man it sucks being a Regent... This is why we have MINIONS instead of FRIENDS :^(
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>>734927709
Silent isn't anime black, she's... *shudder* black black....
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>>734927532
>obvious woke bullshit
wut?
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>>734927760
ugh yuck
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is fight act 1 boss event still in game? i loved that shit in sts1
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>>734927760
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>>734927736
bwo...i think this lobby is cursed
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>>734927760
>black woman
>named silent
it doesn't add up
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>>734927857
No but I made a feedback post at them telling them to bring Mind Bloom event back plus the song or something similarly cool.
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>>734927709
>>734927813
>pretending to be ignorant
One thing I'd say is that I'm genuinely surprised they called Defect an it instead of a le heckin theythem
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>>734927760
And that's a good thing
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>get cute birb on tutorial run
>never again
...why
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>>734927904
We're so close to the boss man, I don't want to lose the progress. Mecha Knight is gonna slam us all for 40 but still. I'm connected so I'm not going to leave either. Try exiting Steam then fully resetting your connection, I'm talking going into Control Panel and Internet Options and straight up disabling and reenabling your internet router or wifi or whatever you have
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>>734926885
Sorry boys game is kill. Gonna have a coffee
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>>734926564
It's unbalanced and you're stupid. They'll be making constant adjustments for the next 2 years to refine the final release.
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>>734928010
FUCK
Then I will be the HERO and rehost!
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242660254030/76561198043831607
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>>734927949
As long as they skull stays on... would.
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>>734928092
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242658459717/76561198030802028
I rehosted
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>>734928132
>this game no longer exists
BRUH
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I enjoy A9 more than A10. Still the same difficulty, but with the comfort of not having to plan for double bosses
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are you guys starting a new session, can I join?
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>>734928162
kms, they need to make this easier.
one more try? if kill it stays kill
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>>734928227
If yours fails, then I will rehost >>734928092
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>>734928096
What about her?
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>>734927645
I've finally died to the doorfag boss on asc 6
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>>734927513
PROMOTIONS
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>>734928245
If you can confirm if it is kill I will join yours
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>>734915528
>spawn in beehive map
>don't prepare for the bee
>complain when you lose

Anon is literally DSP tier
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>>734927709
>how is it woke
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>>734928339
Can confirm, yours
>steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242658459717/76561198030802028
is fucking dead, so join mine
>steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242660254030/76561198043831607
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Where is the schizo and why hasn't he remade the thread?
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>>734928389
Who cares?
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>>734928389
he took his meds
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>>734928383
Negative
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>>734928435
>>734928435
>>734928435
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>>734928461
To what? And should I fully exit and reenter Steam again?
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>rejecting the trial straight up fucking kills you
im only pissed because cheevos arent added yet that is obviously going to be one of them
I GOT SCAMMED
i thought i would just face a gigachad enemy
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>>734928340
It was literally my first run, kept filling my deck with shit. Still got him though.
>>734928342
Refunding now.
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>>734928287
has to go OH HO HO and then my penus becomes the bignus
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>>734928508
Game no longer available. idk what even to do.
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>>734928548
Move to >>734928494. In the meantime I am fully exiting and reentering Steam to see if that works
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>>734928523
It literally tells you
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>>734928523
staying in the hot baths also can just kill you, it does warn you before the final pick. I clicked it anyways
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>>734928342
this is fake btw
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>>734928589
Its dumb, no event should have a run killer like that.
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>>734928896
it's a funny joke
it literally bring up the screen for pressing give up in the menu
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>>734928896
On the contrary, I don't think it should even give an "Abandoning the game" warning. It already warns you once and gives you a chance to back out, and anyone with a brain would be able to realize that it's bad news.
>>
I did ascension 1-9 on defect with no losses and now I'm just getting shithoused on 10. I think I'm up to double digit losses, my life is in shambles.



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