Why is Sephiroth so popular?
yaoi bait
Sephiroth is canonically Asian being the offspring of Hojo and white girls love Asian guys, that is why he is so popular
it is his theme song
Sefirot (Hebrew: סְפִירוֹת, romanized: səp̄īrōṯ, plural of סְפִירָה)[1] meaning emanations, are the 10 attributes/emanations in Kabbalah,[2] through which Ein Sof ("infinite space") reveals itself and continuously creates both the physical realm and the seder hishtalshelut (the chained descent of the metaphysical Four Worlds). The term is alternatively transliterated into English as sephirot/sephiroth, singular sefira/sephirah.As revelations of the creator's will (רצון, rāṣon),[3] the sefirot should not be understood as ten gods, but rather as ten different channels through which the one God reveals His will. In later Jewish literature, the ten sefirot refer either to the ten manifestations of God; the ten powers or faculties of the soul; or the ten structural forces of nature.[4]Alternative configurations of the sefirot are interpreted by various schools in the historical evolution of Kabbalah, with each articulating differing spiritual aspects. The tradition of enumerating 10 is stated in the Sefer Yetzirah, "Ten sefirot of nothingness, ten and not nine, ten and not eleven".[5] As altogether 11 sefirot are listed across the various schemes, two (Keter and Da'at) are seen as unconscious and conscious manifestations of the same principle, conserving the 10 categories.[4] The sefirot are described as channels of divine creative life force or consciousness through which the unknowable divine essence is revealed to mankind.[clarification needed]In Hasidic philosophy, which has sought to internalise the experience of Jewish mysticism into daily inspiration (devekut), this inner life of the sefirot is explored, and the role they play in man's service of God in this world.
>>734921319Bitches love edgy bishi boys
>>734921319Elric effect
>>734921319He was FF7's Darth Maul.
>>734921559hes not asian he has a long sword
>>734921319Some people want to fuck Cloud.I want to fuck Sephiroth.
>>734922008Sephiroth will fuck you.
>>734921319Nu-Sephiroth is gay and lame. OG Sephiroth is goated. Kind of both hilarious and depressing that the only modern depiction of the real Sephiroth was given to us by Smash.
>>734921319He's just cool
>>734921319Because he literally looks like a woman. He's the trans female persons ideal. And trans women tend to be the most... "fanatical", shall we say.
>>734922065>Advent Children's wing>((((OG Sephiroth))))lollmao even
>>734921319The game goes out of its way to set him up as this terrifying superhuman psychopath, it basically spends half the game doing this without actually revealing him in person. And when he does finally appear he does so in one of the most famous gaming scenes of all timeHe's just a really great villain, shame the fangirls ruined him>>734921653Also this
>>734922065>Nu-Sephiroth is gay and lameBuddy, he wears all black leather and a harness, he was always gay.
>>734921319Look if you weren't a party of 90s culture, if you weren't THERE, you won't entirely get it.
>>734921319He already kinda did. And Caius was more based.
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>>734922441This guy wears purple which auto makes him a gaylord.
>>734922441literally who
>>734921319Nostalgia mostly
>>734921319>why so popular?Final Fantasy is an RPG series for women.
>>734922065bro he looks like fucking shit in smash. his model sucks and those garbage graphics are a joke.but yeah 7R is so badly written that it turned him into a pathetic, unironic homosexual stalker who shows up every 5 minutes.modern depictions of the character are fucking terrible and nomura has brainrot.
its the hair, love those luscious locks.
Cool for the edgelords, bishi for the fujos. Genuinely compelling as a villain in the original game even though your only experience with his actual person outsode of flashbacks is at the very end of the game
>734923836 (You)Oh no, it's retarded :(
>>734922441Modern FF characters are so fucking retarded-looking.And by "modern", I mean anything Nomura touched after X.XII seems to have mostly escaped.
>>734921319He's calm, cool and collected
>>734923836>even though your only experience with his actual person outsode of flashbacks is at the very end of the gameHis actual body and the jenova ones aren't different character wise.
>>734923887Yes, yes: he shapeshifted his Jenova puppet to resemble himself and remote controlled it to the Northern Crater.You still don't actually meet him in person for the entire game, and it's debatable how much of his personality was ever invested in Jenova.
>>734924019He's one of those "le Jenova is in control" fags.
>>734923952XI was fucking ludo, dude.
>>734923952I hope you aren't trying to claim XII's characters aren't retarded-looking.
>>734924060The Jenova cells have a life of their own, hence the lab rats moving towards Reunion, and later why the trio in Advent Children are drawn towards the Jenova maguffin. It doesn't mean Sephiroth doesn't have a say, just that he sent his mind out through his connection with Jenova to pilot one of the "clones".What do you think is taunting Cloud in the lifestream flashback? It's the genetic memory of the Jenova cells combined with Jenova's malevolence.
>>734924313*mostly escapedEveryone knows that fag was shoehorned in.
>>734921319I want to fuck his butt
>>734924356Sephiroth pilots all of them. Give it a rest already.
>>734925929Nah, that's retarded.> alien parasite moves to reconstitute itself, as per Gast's research>borne out by the fact that those injected with the cells have an instinct to reunite that leads them to Jenova Death at the Whirlwind Maze >Jenova, having reabsorbed those cells, is later seen in a completely new form from Birth/ Life/ Death named "Synthesis"Sephiroth was able to override the Jenova remains from the Shinra HQ and pilot them to the Crater in his own image. Sephiroth controls Jenova, but the Jenova cells are alive and move to reunite.This is the most basic shit, man.
>>734926673>NahNot only does the game spell it out to you that Sephiroth controls it all, the developers confirmed it years ago. You lost faggot.
>>734926968There's no winning or losing here.The behaviour of those carrying Jenova cells is evidence enough that they operate independently of a higher intelligence.Sephiroth can control Jenova cells, but did not control all of the experiments/ clones. Why would he? Why should he?In the end, they all became bio-fuel for Jenova Synthesis.
I mean he can't even sell games anymore so i guess he isn't?
>>734927797>but did not control all of the experiments/ clonesHe canonically did.
>>734928579>And I hate how weak he actually is given teenage Shinra Grunt rookie Cloud beat him.Cloud backstabbed him
>>734922008I want Sephiroth (and Zack) to fuck Cloud
>>734922375he first appears in the boat from Junon thoughever
>>734921319he's just bad ass. looks bad ass. acts bad ass.
Better question, why is the Masamune in EVERY FF game?
>>734928210Nta but where did devs confirm Sephiroth was the mastermind and not Jenova? I could maybe believe it but it's more likely Jenova is the true thing behind it all. Sephiroth was in the crater/lifestream biding his time. Jenova just used its ability to make itself look like Sephiroth in the original game, but its the AC Sephiroth appearing at times in the Remake on top of Jenova.
>better villain >Better plan>Better design>Gets mogged by some tranny in a trench coatKefka bros...
>>734922441Only best theme BTWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tWu02LbIOg
>>734921559>being the offspring of HojoHojo isn't asian.
Final fantasy villains peaked at emet selch
>>734921653This.
>>734922441>muh Yeul
>>734921319>Why was Sephiroth so popular?ftfy
>>734921319Cool design, but extremely generic villain. Kefka does everything 10x better than Sephiroth.
>>734921319Why does Nomura always act like he has no idea why characters become popular? It's because Sephiroth looks like this.He should spend his time creating more gooner bait characters instead of acting like an idiot. He already knows what makes a successful character, if he doesn't make more he's failing on purpose.
>>734921319Have you not played the game? He's cool. Throughout the game you only see him in the past or after his wake. I head he was inspired by Jaws and it created a very memorable character.
>>734922441He's not Sephiroth cool, but he's still pretty cool.
>>734921319Handsome guy that will literally kill you, is it really that difficult to figure out
>>734921319A mystery for the ages
>>734921319>Why is Sephiroth so popular?It's because of his big sword.
>>734921319the sephiroth we know today didn't exist in the original drafts. in fact, his name was in Vincent's place. Zach didn't exist until late in development and Tifa was created from a split from Aerith to develop more into the character. Hell, Tifa never existed in the original draft, it was just Barret (bullet at the time), Sephiroth (with Vincent's art), Cloud, Red XIII, Aerith....the turks were different too.
>>734922348that does not explain why biological women love him, THOUGHEVER
>>734936087The original character of Tifa aka the knockoff from an actual 1993(97-4) eroge cheap whore >>734826230 is a "Seventh Heaven" (later renamed HoneyBee Inn) cheap whore ("bunny"). >>734672656And that "muh original draft" never entered actual development process.>>734674006>>734674989>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3h3Ro8XMAA-i3X.jpg>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2-w9IcbwAQSk7d.png>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2-wnAWbUAA7YpA.jpg>originally Tufa has a "bunny" job in "Seventh Heaven" the brothel cuz she's literally a cheap knockoff from a 1993 eroge called CanCan Bunny/きゃんきゃんバニー.That also explains why the name "Seventh Heaven" sounds more like a whorehouse than a bar.>>734672656
>>734921319Emet Selch unseated him as the most popular FF villain years ago.
>>734936863I admire your drive anon, keep it up
>>734922441A teenager can't draw that. So he instantly loses to Sephiroth.
>>734936863>bunny girlKEK Tifa is a whore
>>734922968You're just jealous he'll never want you like he wants Cloud
>>734921319FF7 was lot of people's first rpg, so he left an impact
>>734921319Because everyone loves a badass swordsman even if they're a baddie. Auron was basically good guy Sephiroth.
>>734936874>mmo cringeBack to Discord with you troon. Helmet Squelch isn't even a proper villain
>>734930775>it's more likely Jenova is the true thing behind it allThis is how the remakes will end I guarantee it. Sephiroth will get some kind of salvation via Aerith in the lifestream, they're already riffing off the novellas.
>>734921319Honestly no idea. I didn't play the remakes, but in the original FF7 he was like a drunken schizo retard mumbling incoherently and stumbling around.
>>734930913>le wacky kill all clownyeah no
>>734930913>Better designOnly the green sprite and the and the god form. The actual intended clown outfit, while very good, is a complete mess and if you were asked to describe it out of memory, you'd have zero chance.>>734922441All correct, but he's still too purple.
>>734935064 It's really not complicated. Tall, silver-haired pretty boy with a god complex and a theme song that lives rent free in your head. Dude walks into your JRPG, says like three lines, deletes a main character, and then spends the rest of the game making you chase his shadow. That mystique goes hard. Plus he was a lot of people's first "oh shit, villains can actually *win*" moment. Combine that with the masamune being comically long and the whole fallen-hero experiment backstory and boom - instant 90s icon. You don't have to like him, but pretending you don't get why he's popular is just being obtuse.
>>734921319Long silver hair is dramatic and eye-catching.Heinously long katana, also dramatic and eye catching.Black leather and silver pauldrons? Dramatic. Eye catching.The man is stylish. He combines beauty and power, a deific countenance that serves well as a Lucifer-figure.
>>734936874Emet Selch didn’t get into Kingdom Hearts and Smash Bros.
why did Sephiroth go insane?
>>734944195He didn't. He was right about everything and Jenova is justice.
>>734944195Because he has been a pariah his entire life. Raised in seclusion by Hojo and without any peers at all (in the original story at least; in the Compilation he had exactly two peers that he has very recently lost and is still reeling from their sudden absence, but this is retcon).He has, since he was very young, had a deep-seated fear that he was not human at all, that he was "Hojo's Monster" and just lied to. He saw the experiments in the Nibelheim reactor as confirmation of these fears.
>>734943864He's literally just a more sci fi version of Griffith
>>734944554Unfortunately, Griffith has floofy hair, which makes him look soft and delicate, which damages the demigod image. Which is why his design as a god obscures it with the helmet from his torment, but helmets are not eye catching.
>>734944195He didn't. In his moment of weakness in Nibelheim it gave Jenova the fulcrum it needed to dominate his psyche. You will see.
>>734930313This nigga got psyopped by Jenova
>>734944195Sephiroth was a Lovecraft short story protagonist that lost it once he realized he was basically sired by an alien
>>734921319The character is iconic because Sephiroth is iconic in Cloud's memory. So the way they presented him in the story as a cool mysterious figure was intentional, they wanted players to feel like Sephiroth was very important.
He's just gay Psaro
>>734944195Because insanity is hereditary and of his three parents Jenova was by far the most sane. Sephiroth never had a chance.
>>734944505I would like to take this time to point out that Hojo knew from the beginning that Jenova wasn't a Cetra and he did it all anyway
>>734945097Thanks for highlighting the fact that Lucrecia deserves no sympathy and was a willing participant in the Jenova Project. Although she did end up paying for her sins>Vincent>Lucrecia... You're alive...>Lucrecia>I wanted to disappear... I couldn't be with anyone... I wanted to die...>But the Jenova inside me wouldn't let me die...>Lately, I dream a lot of Sephiroth... My dear, dear child.>Ever since he was born I never got to hold him, even once...>Not even once. You can't call me his mother... That... is my sin...
>>734944592>floofy hairThey definitely could have done him less dirty by not making him a "Great Century|" French looking fag
>>734945164Lucrecia of antiquity was a rape victim who killed herself after explaining what happened to her and demanded vengeance.
>>734922968I know that sephiroth had a bit of a chip on his shoulder in the OG but clowning on cloud so hard he ends up in the cripple chair was just a fun side goal of getting the black materia and doing a meteor. It kind of ruins that whole dynamic if he's just crazy ex boyfriend levels of obsessed with him.
>>734945287Kind of? Okay I know everyone treats Sephiroth as if he's a creepy ex boyfriend even before remake but OG frames it as if Cloud is just another pawn. When discussing how to deal with Black Materia this exchange happens>Aeris>Yes, but there's one thing...>You can only answer the puzzles inside the Temple.>So, anyone who solves the puzzle will be crushed by the Temple.>Cloud>I see... the Ancients didn't want dangerous magic to be taken out of the Temple so easily...>Barret>Then just leave it.>If we can't take it, then neither can Sephiroth, right?>Cloud>No. We've got to think of a way to get it out.>Because Sephiroth has lots of different flunkies.>It's nothing to him to throw their lives away to get the Black Materia.>This place isn't safe.This strongly implies that what's happening to Cloud isn't unique to him. It's happening to all of the Black Robes. Cloud is just our POV and Sephiroth's most efficient puppet. Doubly so since the Black Robes moan Sephiroth's name and after Sephiroth summons Meteor, he never speaks to Cloud again
>>734945481It is personal. Sephiroth deliberately let Cloud out of the Shinra HQ cell, remember. He also doesn't taunt the other clones with lies about their past, he just makes them kill themselves so he can collect their jenova cells.
>>734921319>Leon's face with long hair and swordI wonder why.Seriously, FF7 is so past overrated it has become omnirated.
>>734922547that explains all the gay shit with cloud
>>734924313That's just Vaan, almost everyone in 12 looks amazing
>>734946498I know it makes her fun to goon to but Ashe's waist napkin always looked dumb and doesn't really fit her rageful character
>>734945891Don't be so angry you missed out, zoomzoomI'm sure they'll put him in Fortnite one day
>>734936863
He was cool but every new line of dialogue or detail they have added to the character since 1997 has been to his detrimentLike look at this stupid fucking shit
gaymers love beauty and edgy, simple as
>>734947865Right now they're really pushing that Sephiroth is just a victim of circumstance and that if it weren't for Shinra and Hojo then Sephiroth would be a sweet chungus. Even worse, I sense they they're trying to manufacture s redemption arc for him the more information comes out. If there's a Square marketer or writer stalking these threads, please hear me when I say DON'T FUCKING DO IT! The whole deal is that many characters have shitty circumstances but their choices make them who they are. Barrett has pitiable circumstances too and his rage is pointed at a genuinely evil entity but he still has to take responsibility for the innocent people he harmed. Sephiroth wants to be what he is. He does not care about people's interpretation of good and evil because he considers himself above that. He learned what Jenova truly was and it did not change his opinion of himself or his plans. Sephiroth stopped being a good person the day he entered the reactor and that was his own decision he made independently
>>734939474cool post
>>734947865Completely accurate.
Sephiroth was the shark from jaws, he only worked because you barely saw him. The devs seem to have understood that but rather than making new encounters that are shocking and expand on this, he's just a crazy stalker who shows every 5 mins with over the top encounters
>>734948093I think a redemption arc for Sephiroth was the original plan for the Remakes but fan reactions to Part1 made them abandon it, so in Part 2 they just shoehorned all the stuff they couldn't retcon into the OG story (time jannies? Multiple worlds? Don't worry about it! It's all just part of the lifestream!) and quietly dropped the rest (Watashi/Ore Sephiroth etc)
>>734950434On the one hand in thankful they dropped the alternate timeline thing because that shit was getting stupid extremely fast. On the other hand they already established it. So now it just muddles the actual narrative because there are like 5 different heavens existing in Lifestream soap bubbles that now can't matter but we have to pay attention to them anyway
>>734921319He is the antagonist in a popular game.
