>do something cool>allied and enemy characters start reacting to how good you are over the commsI don't know what you call this trope but between this and Armored core 6 I love it.
based ac enjoyer
>AC8 is about weaponising your reputation so you can pretend to be a dead ace only to surpass himIf we get another Mobius squadron moment I will be happy>You're not going to believe this, Jean-Louis!
I like how in the first mission with the convict squad they're all shitting on you at the start for being a murderer and then they're like "wait wtf he's wiping all them himself"
>>734962170>Excited to have another murderer with you?>[Uncaptioned:] YEAH
>>734962249based af
>>734962065I'm worried there is going to be an Act 2 moment where you are revealed to be "a fake" and somehow we're supposed to believe all the cool shit you did throughout Act 1 like shooting down 20 planes a mission was fraudulent.
>>734964523The Ace that dies doesn't really and come back to reclaim his title.
>>734964681That's still a "now there are two cakes" situation.I'd rather there be a "you are a cool ace" campaign mechanic where your reputation is real as far as the game is concerned. If you pull off feats like tunnel running, nobody gives a shit if you are the original.
>>734964523How would they even do that? "It was all an AWACS' dream?" If you were flying and fighting ingame I don't know how they could say it didn't happenEven Count just botched his numbers after missions
Why no China fighter airplane?
>>734961445>Mission 1: Shoot down some bombers and their slow moving escorts>Mission 20: Fly into the Exophere and dogfight God.Does this escalation feel off to anyone?
>>734966653You add the power of friendship and give a princess to rescue / beside you in the fight, and its right on target for every sort of JRPG or mecha anime awesomeness.
>>734966653>Mission 3: God comes down to kick your ass just for funI enjoy it
>>734965727Cutscene stupidity.>get done with mission where you killed an entire enemy ace squadron, destroyed a battalion of ground troops, and summoned the special ace by buzzing the enemy tower so close they could see the name under your cockpit>"Sir, we have evidence that protagonist man is... a fake...">"WHAT? IS THAT TRUE, PROTAGONIST MAN?">all your squad suddenly doubt you
>>734967593I dunno, 7 already had "fuck you protagonist work your way up again" almost right off the bat, I don't think they'll do it again even if the framing (pun intended) is differentI think it's more likely it'll be the enemy will figure out we're a fake, expect that to damage our/improve their morale, only to realise that we're much scarier than the guy they thought we were
>>734967854>I think it's more likely it'll be the enemy will figure out we're a fake, expect that to damage our/improve their morale, only to realise that we're much scarier than the guy they thought we wereThis would be cool, but I'm worried they won't do that because the alternative is easy cheap drama that makes no sense if you are good at the game.
>>734966653Yeah, God should have some backup of some sort.>twenty trillions drones using lasers and throwing missiles that's better
CUM HISTORIAMUTAT VALDE RAZGRIZREVELAT IPSUMPRIMUM DAEMON SCELESTUS EST
>>734968063You really do have to play Zero after 5>Oh cool, Pixy's boss theme has lyrics>Wait a minute>WAIT A MINUTE
>>734961445>duel against mihaly>take a missile from him>mihaly squad "wtf, why is he not down?">Mihaly answer "he took the missile in a non vital spot, I will teach you how to do it later"Also, your squad comments watching Trigger and Mihaly fight is amazing, it's a monster battle, they call it
>>734961445These games are so fucking goodCan't wait for AC8 (and AC6-2)
>>734968270https://youtu.be/DovKHISVpQM?t=148pure undiluted kino
>>734962249
your allies beeing hyped at you is fun but that's not it when enemies start panicking when they recognize you and start treating you like main boss, that the shit man, >HELP US, ITS THE RAZGRIZ
So what do you think the release date for AC8 is? Probably Q4 this year right?
>>734966798There's both of that in AC7 lol.
>>734968573How many games let you beat an enemy so hard that, many games and a decade later, they're still afraid of you getting them back>Every time you see the map of Usea during 7, you can see they never once attempt to invade North Point
>>734968063>unsung war>has the best singing in ass combat about a mythical biblical war???
>IT'S THREE STRIPES>IT'S THE DEMON LORDI fuckign love enemies being scared shitless of you
>>734961445>I don't know what you call this trope but between this and Armored core 6 I love it.Cheesy power-fantasy dialog?Not saying you aren't entitled to have this in what is basically a minimal arcade game, that's just what it honestly is.Not much of a fan myself. AC7 writing was honestly terrible IMO and I think they shouldn't try to have any continuity, but instead go full creativity each game.I'm playing Nuclear Option now and I'm not coming back. No plot or cheerleading comm for sure, but that's not what I was in for. I don't even carry 20 anti-everything missiles anymore.
>>734964681>The Ace that dies doesn't really and come back to reclaim his title.Say that to Raven.
>>734961445>MC does something cool>everyone else stands around and talks about how cool the MC looksits the shonenshit formula
>>734969458Nuclear Option needs more tunnels for me to fly through
>>734970030>Nuclear Option needs more tunnels for me to fly throughhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3609258132&searchtext=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUW8OaGgfIo&t=7s
I just played the stonehenge mission and I am now based and bomb pilled, I fucking love these cluster bombs
>>734970462That's too much tunnel
>that mission where you take the airbase>they actually bought the POW's Pizzakek
>>734969683For some reason developers have an addiction to making you play as a complete fucking loser that gets no recognition for anything so when you play as someone actually cool and get praised for it it hits differently
>>734967854>that we're much scarier than the guy they thought we were>we have all of "Rex" flight data! These drones were all trained to outmaneuver and destroy these annoying wings of yours!>sir our drones are all being shot down down!>What! That is impossible! This can only mean he isn't Rex! >but if he isn't Rex, WHO IS HE>alright ace, looks like the cat is out of the bag, but this is your chance! Show them what the REAL Wings of Theve(tm) CAN DO>OST starts singing in latin
>>734962170that moment is brought even further when in Faceless Soldier (after you deal with the 4 radars while not being able to fly above the skies for long or else you get shot down by a missile) in the second part of the mission everyone bands up on you in a formation with you leading the waywonderful game
there is probably a psychological thing going on but whenever I hear those voice lines I lock in and do really good. I was dogshit at dogfighting until that part in mission 7.
>>734961445At least for Ace Combat I enjoy how it's not just superficially calling the player awesome, but rather the fact that you're so awesome which ends up driving the plot.
>>734966798xD epic for the win
sex with avrilsex with huxian
>>734971923Based
>>734961445If you like that play project wingman too>DLC mission>fly through the tunnel>exit right into the most defended enemy base>the entire base goes absolute apeshit over the comms because of youProject wingman is absolute kino and the praise you get feels even more deserved in that game. Not meaning it as a shade towards AC though, just that your squadmates are actually competent in PW so the praises they sing feel that much nicer.
>>734971923What about Brownie's smoking ass?
>>734964523it would be a pretty amazing subversion if there's the whole reveal that you're a fake thingand then not only does nobody drop youbut they go all out with a "It doesn't matter how things started He made it real"
>>734966653You're basically jesus in a fighter jet in these games, doing increasingly nutty feats as your legend grows works pretty well.
>>734966653That's just Persona with jets
>>734968591Final trailer summer games fest, release in early September, $70
>>734972085reserved for ANDREW ARTEMIS MAXIMILLIAN MIHALY SAMANTHAEL BOBBY EZEKIEL A. SHILAGE
god i hope 8 is good
Stick with Anon and you'll make ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtDmCpkIH5A
>>734972083Also WSO waifus in both main story and dlc
unpopular opinion but i wish we stuck with mage for longer in ac7
>>734969458this is just one of those games where you fly around for hours staring at nothng and kill things out of sght?
Is there a marked difference (besides not being a pansy and ridiculed) for using casual flight controls over expert? I liked casual cause it was like playing Star Fox or Rogue Squadron
I wish we got some proper superweapon support this time, Stonehenge shooting down the Arsenal Gear was cool as shit
>>734972902just have fun anon
>>734972902expert lets you control yaw pitch and roll seperately allowing for finer control of your aircraft
>Mission 8: oilfieldso much destruction, feels like busting a load
>>734971625One of the best moments in 7 only for Band Dog, and Full Band, to ruin it.
I love that squence when you first encounter mihai on that one stage where you have to protect the babby jets dudes like > I'm feeling excited and you can't hear his jet AI flipping his shit because hes pushing too hard and Im snatching my thumb sticks into the fucking floor trying to take him down fuck im gonna go play it right now
>>734972515I am so fucking worried this is gonna be some shit like ASSault horizon. this storytelling in first person has only been used there (and now here)
>>734966653>Does this escalation feel off to anyone?No, it feels great
>>734973235He did nothing wrong.
>>734972902Casual is just counterintuitive and also objective worse for flying than expert controllers, the only use case i can think of for casual is if you're using a mouse to fly
>>734973880It won't. It's VERY 5 inspired
>>734969458The writing being bad doesn't mean the banter wasn't fun and it is a power fantasy, there's nothing wrong with that.
>>734974089He did one thing wrong, he was an Osean.
>>734972803Nuclear Option?No it's rather fast-paced.It is best described as the simplicity of Ace Combat, with the depth of an alt-future DCS.You are constantly flying low and behind terrain to avoid radar or escape missiles, anti-missiles defense are so damn good you need to get very close to get them by surprise or overload them with cheaper bombs/rockets.The futuristic 360° camera tracking also let you ENJOY the explosion of what you destroy. It's a thing of beauty really (later on this webm you'll see a lone target zoomed in).I won't deny that on some map, with slow plane/helicopter, you will take a few minutes flying to destination with a high risk of being shot down by a missile you had no chance to escape, jam, or shot down. But planning to avoid that and use the right aircraft+loadout for the right job is part of the fun.
>>734974308> It's VERY 5 inspiredThat's good, so i can expect more Nagase's feet[/spoiler
>>734975008forgot the pic and fucked up the spoiler. i am drunk
>>734975130basedfor me, it's the pits and the ab peek
>>734975130for me it's crushing my enemies, seeing them driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of their pilots
>>734974308This is why I am not really worried. People think it's going to be Assault Horizon but the reality is that it is just going to be 5 but even more anime. I am personally looking forward to Rex coming across as a spaz because they can only communicate through hand gestures. I am also curious how much Project Aces is hiding from us since the timeline is closer than ever to AC3.
>>734961445Are flight sticks good for AC or project wingman? How about armored core? I saw a webm of armored core being played with sticks and it looked fun as fuck, but i dont know if theres a good stick meant for arcade-ish games instead of the whole flight sim autismo, any recommendation?
>>734975568You're supposed to play armored core with a steel battalion controller.
>>734975680What if your back isn't that flexible?
>>734975568I recently played through PW with a flight stick and VRWould recommend
>>734975752The reason we have so many vertebrae is so we can remove some as we see fit.
>>734961445I believe the kids call it "glazing."
>>734961445>enjoying wankery over every single actionMust be a redditor thing
>>734975185>pits and the ab peekimplying i don't like those too >>734975323well the only waifu i can think of that is your enemy is her
>>734975868Nice, which stick u got?>VRDamn, isnt that nausea inducing? I got to try Alyx once and just smooth-moving made me dizzy, do you get used to VR planes or what?
>>734976393>implying i don't like those too truly an anon of taste
Just finished Project Wingman, hell of a finale. did they ever say what the deal was?
>>734977374Potentially access to actual nuclear bombs as you get the experimental uranium freefall bomb
>>734961445looking back it's crazy how well a few triggers and some recorded lines do to make you feel like you're in a living world and having an impact.
>>734977374i believe the "deal" was the blueprints for the PW MK1 also, try to beat the game in mercenary mode now
>>734977374 the crown to the old mercenary kingdom that was mentioned a few times
>>734976393>>734976393>well the only waifu i can think of that is your enemy is heri actually forgot about yellow 4. i am a retard
cringe
based
>>734977634>>734977818 Sure, was thinking of giving the DLC a go first>>734978275>3 different answerslolAfter finishing the game, I do like that they kept the deal ambiguous. It feels as if they're making the offer to the player, as if it could be whatever the player imagines.
>>734961445I hope we have more detailed ace bios in ac8.
>>734979481>>3 different answersIt is unclear, and probably will be explained in the sequel. if they ever make one
>>734966653You are basically describing AC3>first mission: shoot down some bombers and their slow moving escorts>last mision: fly straight into the internet and make that sublimated guy disappear from the immortal realmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHwpwYR_7HI
>>734980373>sampledo better anon
>>734980763is that Pixy's AK
>>734977214>stickVKB Gladiator >nausea Other than minor nausea starting out with vr for the first time I've been completely fine except for the airboat section in HL2 VRSo I've really had no nausea issues with PW even while fucking around with the AOA Limiter
>>734977374How are you supposed to beat Crimson 1 on mercenary difficulty? Are you just supposed to use a broken plane like the PW-Mk.I which makes the fight too easy. I was trying to do a Chimera run the whole way though but could beat Crimson 1 on Kings. He felt way better balanced on Hard vs a mid tier plane. The rest of the campaign was fine on mercenary and if anything was a bit too easy. >>734980373>the sequel. if they ever make oneI hope they do.
>>734977374 monarch is coronated as a cascadian king and makes cascadia into a mercenary heaven with kaiser (he fought for cascadia's soul and won)
>>734977374To me PW's finale felt undercooked, writing wise, it needed to give Crimson 1 more screentime if they wanted to pull such a bold move (the music and the gameplay were amazing though)
>>734982709I knew it, this site is run by filthy Oseans
>>734969064>If we don't go now, we're not getting anyone out of here, the Crown is here and he's going to kill us!
>>734961445It's a good time to be a Ace Combatfag
>>734982603How long do they expect their post-Australia ancap paradise to last? Especially now that the cover's been blown on the 400 years of illuminati fuckery that mercs have been doing and other players have their own legend-level (ugh) aces like Driver.
How's 6?
>>734983535they haven't even released the remasters yet
>>734966653japanese media tends to struggle with this rapid escalation issue
>>734980416>>734966653it's okay because the first mission was already in the internet, you just didn't know it yet, and you're actually flying into an internet-based simulation of the internet
>>734983669>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dqdCl2Mgg0best game mechanic gimmick in the series and has im@s planes
>>734983669Dancing with the Angels, Mister anon.
>>734977374The Deal is letting Cascadia become a mercenary haven. Crimson 1 strongly alludes to it.>"Here we are, fighting for Cascadia's soul. That's the deal you made, right?"The Deal is why Crimson 1 shows up at the end and drops Cordium missiles on Presidia, he's deliberately weakening Cascadia so that the mercenary state can't cause the world to descend further into anarchy and chaos. That's exactly what happens, by the way, with Cascadian Foreign Legions being sent to fight the Federation all across the world - and a significant amount of them are mercenaries.>"You drove me to this...this death and destruction over the Federation."Second of all, he has to kill (You), Monarch, as well as Kaiser, because he knows perfectly well that if you live, you and Kaiser will just go somewhere else and start the same shit all over again and put the world in danger. He can't just kill you, he has to erase you from history completely.¨>"I will bury you so completely, the earth will turn over a thousand times before your body is dug up."
>>734987038Holy shit, that makes the final fight make a lot more sense. I read about the whole mercenary haven in the files after mission 21, but I didn't realize Crimson 1 knew that was the plan.
i do not care about pajeet wingman
>>734989536
>>734989587>2024jesus
>>734989587all me btw
I wish Armored Core had more of that but everyone just kinda shits on you the entire game besides the part where you take on the entire red army by yourself
>>734989639
>>734989985>project wingman is 6 years old
>>734962249Think about who do you want on your side in a war? A psychopath killer or a saint?
i want more cute WSO
>>734961445>"Trigger crashed! Drooling idiot!">"No, he flew into the tunnel! He's crazy!"
>>734974348This was my first AC game and to me the writing being bad didn't stop cool shit from happening in the plot. Two standouts for me were all of Mihaly and that one mission were you save the refugees singing their country's anthem
>>734972083>Eye-Tee screaming at you shitscared if you took a two seater planeAC8 better have a voiced WSO waifu for double seaters, I swear.
>it's a static ground-based TGT mission
>>734969556Branch will be relevant in the dlc.... just a little longer... I can see 6.5 on the horizon
>>734990143came around the same time as fnf didfeel old yet?
>>734966653Yeah, where are God's escorts?
>>734991480They're busy, people keep fucking dancing with them.
>>734990143>December 1, 2020 was 6 years ago
>>734990143and it started development in 2015technically speaking, project wingman is a decade old
>>734961445Would be cool if they expanded this in 8 to be more dynamic. Like if you have a mission where you only need to wipe out 50% of a base in the time limit but you end up wiping out everything before time runs out, the comms treats you like an absolute madman for pulling that off. Make it so those moments are actually hard to achieve so the player wanking feels earned.
>>734991216That's 80% of 4.
>>734970795>to making you play as a complete fucking loser that gets no recognition for anythingUnironically because it's too much work for the average developer. They use ludo narrative dissonance as a shield to handwave everything that would realisticly impact the story or just flat out ignore/avoid events that would obviously have consequences so they don't have to address anything in the narrative or gameplay.
The wanking feels embarrassing outside of when you're actually playing the game.
>>734991216>surprise dogfight against a squadron at the end
>just realized who mr X is while I was mid dogfight with him in mission 15K...KINOOO
>>734991216>"Nice attacker you got there buddy."
>>734961445I bought this game on a whim during the Christmas sale and was so pleasantly surprised, this shit ruled.
>>734991216for the love of god someone tell me why ATK planes exist, make it make sense
>>734995964it's really only the A-10 that ends up as the token useless joke plane and that's just down to the speedthe Fullback is great in 7, sure it's "worse" than some of the other options for A2A but there's not much you can't get done in it
>>734995964They trivialize actual ground/naval attack missions
>>734995964the A-10 fucked hard for actual ground attack missions back when it had the fuel-air bomb, but that's DLC Only™ now.
>>734961445>Woke combat
>>734966653no
>>734995964they carry more ammo for ground targets duh
>>734995964For AC6, which had multiple combat zones in 1 mission. You could fail the Air battle but still win the Naval and Land battles.
>>734968270>zoe project exists in strangereal>sounds like zone of enders from other game>ears can only stomach music from zoé>probably related to the NEMO project>Zoé first musical video looks like my first alien abduction>Neucom has technology based on Leasth (strangereal Argentina) aeronautical fictional super fighters>Quetzals in ac7THE RIDE NEVER ENDS!
>You're quite the entertainer, but the show's over with this next shot.I've legitimately never feared for my life in a game more than when I heard Mr x say this.
>>734968270He comments if he can't hit you as well, I believe
>>734992764>tfw this picture was literally just me like 30 min ago
f-14 bros where you at? I fukin love this plane
Newcow, power from life! https://youtu.be/oJONCXFAnVg?si=veNrPKw2N0l5f4WH The number 8 looks like a number 3 and another 3 mirrored.
>>734972085Sex with corpse
the chinese girl is kinda hot
>>734987038hmmyou sound a lot like crimson 1...I didn't realized the second part, so thanks for that :^)
>>734998590based
>>734961445>oh fuck it's anon please let me suck your dickBut in the good way
>>734997738>get to mission 9>mfw starting the engagement by flying through Aigaion in full afterburner before circling back to drop the whole fleet out of the sky
>Episode 1>Shoot down some bombers attacking the city>Episode 50>Lead the allied fleet into the stratosphere to shoot down the enemy superweapon powered by God before it can wipe out all human life on EarthAce Combat: Gundam fucking when?
For me it's Gripen and Su-47
AC8 is the one time where I'm afraid my PC might not actually be able to run it and I might have to upgrade just to be able to play it. Side note it feels sad that 3 and 6 are like the only AC games I have left to play. I wish more jet kino was like PW but most just feel like shit to fly.
>>735000079>gundam More liek "damned god", amirite?Anon, I am litery "drowned" since birthhttps://youtu.be/ZIyia4cGSO4?si=CMnkH9D2-7Fc-7oSDision from ace3 looks like donald trump, Gilbert Park like that South Korean dictator, etc.. Gabriel William Clarkson looks like that idiot... "Detente conference", it all makes sense.acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Gabriel_William_ClarksonLet me out of this wild ride already
>>735000079We're almost up to the period Electrosphere took place in, we won't be getting not-gundams until after that.
>>734977374The most fun suggestion I saw for the contents of the briefcase was The blueprints/formula for how to make synthetic Cordium. Because if anyone can suddenly make Cordium, then the entire geopolitical order in PW is fucked (especially the Federation)
>>734977374No, it's just a funny Pulp Fiction reference. It could be anything.
>>734997738Wish there was an ace combat where you are piloting those big boys and bombers instead
BORN TO FLY BELKA IS A FUCK Kill Em All 1995I am Demon Lord 410,757,864,530 DEAD PIXYI miss you P.J.
>>734987038you know what, it actually sounds believable. thanks anon
>>734990596>>>734990981they should have a WSO waifu in every two seat plane, and if you pick a one seat, then the WSO should fly in another jet, so you can still have her dialogue even if a little different. i find so stupid that on PW you have to lose all prez dialogues just because you wanna pick a good plane in late game, and there are no two seat one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8daOVQA9To
>game lets you stomp mud over crisp white sheets
>>734972902Casual in my experience is worse for 3D movement. Expert may be hard if you're unused to moving in 3D but you can't really go without it once you learn it.
>>735005170>HAHAHA>IMAGINE! >HEHE>SALVATION! why was he like this?
>>734961445>cockpit view>fly through an icy cloud>frost all over the canopy>controller shaking from the turbulence>metal creaking and cracking around you from the temperature changeIf you play AC from the default third-person view, you're doing yourself a huge disservice in terms of immersion.
>>735005756I play first person when I play space games. When I play jet games I wanna see my jet, same as car games
>>735005756I couldnt win a dogfight in f-22 against an A-10 when using cockpit view. Shits way too disorienting for me
>>735005825a true pilot can't be tethered to the ground, even in a car
>>735005825I could see that when they're so cool, but so are the cockpits/dashboards with all the doodads and when the weather/environment effects hit. You should try it, it's a different experience. More sim immersion, but it's still an arcade game so it's still more enjoyable than frustrating or complicated.
>>734961445>be ace combat>dont feel like a flying sim>its actually just about locking-on onto other planes in a pseudo-3D fieldThis whole series is ass
>>734971923
What are some the things you can do in 7, flight wise, that you can't do in other games again?Breaking while accelerating, or something like that?
>>735005756But I like seeing my plane.
>>735006050sorry nobody makes threads for whatever boring ass work simulator you enjoybye now
>>735000830The good news is, AC3 has probably the coolest story in the whole series, assuming you like sci-fi. Be sure to play the translated Japanese version and check out all the routes if you enjoy it. I’m jealous you get to play it for the first time!
8492, 8492! Is that all you people have to say? There's no squadron in our military with that number!
>>735006084Doing quick turns when under a certain level of speed (PW lets you do this too but at any speed, so it's kind of broken), which can be abused to fuck physics and start drifting with the plane among other things.You can switch out parts on your plane too.
>>735006128>52 missions and multiple routes in Japan>36 missions and a linear campaign everywhere elseWas there ever an explanation why?
kill all b*lkansgenocide all b*lkans
>>735006058>Can't wait to tell my son about this
So is this count or his kid?
>>735006390Just because he's blond doesn't mean he's count, he also has hair going over his forehead so he can't be count
>>734995964They represent an outdated paradigm.
>>735005138If you didn't take the F14 for the entirely of PW just for Prez you didn't beat the game.
They should do another game in the future with only made up planes.
>>735005406he was high on his own farts and also probably in a midlife crisis
>>735006475>guy just cant grow his hair outProlly his son
>>734964681Honestly I'd kinda dig a campaign where you're not the only hotshot ace of the military. Like, maybe a different squad somewhere far away (but still on your side) has their own hotshot and as you grt through the campaign, it becomes more and more obvious that the missions are just to try and one-up the other ace
>>734971923>that bit in the DLC where Huxian starts the briefing by beating the shit out of the Osean commander who hired General Resource goons to try and assassinate youDefinitely best girl.
>>735006750There's a mod that turns every plane into a two seater
>>735006961Trigger is probably in the corner thinking "That was fun, I hope they do it again."
>Play AC7>Really unimpressed>"Maybe I just don't like dogfights with modern planes">Give Project Wingman a try>Unadultered kino for 20 hours>It was made by like 3 guysWhat the fuck?
>>734962249based high roller
>>734972240>callsign rex (inri)>dies and "reincarnates">proves unbelievers wrongThey're really gonna go all in on plane Jesus in 8.
>>735006390I'm likely wrong, it's probably no one, but I'm gonna just say Dision.
>>735008226The idea that we'll see significant returns of old characters always sounds stupid to me. Nagase returned in AC7 at the very end, to the space elevator, after apparently having destroyed a 2nd giant asteroid, Simon and his gf were mentioned to be Schroeder's colleagues, Harling returned only to die early in AC7.Like the most you'll get is cameos. The sole exception is Mobius 1 returning in the VR mode of AC7 where he spanked Eruseans a few years before AC7 proper.
>>735008435Other few technicalities are bonus boss Mobius 1 in Ace Combat Zero and Torres being a voiceless captain in AC04But exceedingly few characters have any reason to return in an active role anywhere. I guess you can do a lot of cameos since the war is back in Usea (and we're fighting for the FCU), but that's only if familiar characters like Pixy are still staying there for whatever reason.
>>734992764>tfw he flies toward the sun just to make following his ass that much more of a bitch to do
>>735006390He looks way more like Tabloid and that guy's dead.
>>735007332Nah it's one of the Spares with no portraitI think he goes down during Faceless Soldier but he's also a generic voice and shows up later, IIRC
Do jet planes actually dogfight irl or just rocket each other from 50km away?
>>735009156the latter
>>735008435>No doujins about AC girlsShame
>>735008435I get what you're saying but the difference is the AC3 cast aren't returning characters, their game takes place later in the timeline and this is the point in said timeline when they're all active and doing thingsif PA has a long-term plan about getting to AC3 then they've gotta at least establish that Dision exists and is around otherwise he'll seem out of place when he shows up in AC3 and is described as having been a pretty big deal
>>735009156Western air doctrine is inimical to dogfighting, so yes, it's just missiles from extreme ranges. The US particularly is a fan of total air supremacy, which they'll achieve by leap frogging AA systems and aircraft deployments. Eastern european pilots, particularly russians, still train for it though.
>>735009156They're real, but absolutely nothing like videogames or hollywood movies. Literally the shortest allowable distance for missiles is like half a mile. Planes simply do not get so close that they could poke each other with sticks.
>>735009156They do train for dogfights but they're not really expected to happenIf a giant all out war breaks out one day you might see some happen just because chaos would mean there's a chance it'll occur.In AC I think it's implied that they do have BVR capability but pilot skill is so mythical that missiles and stealth can be equalized.
>>734961893AC is my favourite seriesBlack flag was amazing
>>734971923>HuxianShe pegs Count every night
>>735000457For me, it's this beautiful bird.
>>735006973>Prez' head just pops out of the canopyIt must be cold out there.
>>735011528Nah, the one I've got edits the models so they're proper two seaters.
>>735006973Heh. They should have it so Prez just sits in your lap instead.That'd be funny ha ha.
Wanna get into Ace Combat, which ones to play in order? Are all of them required or are some safe to skip?
>>735012186If you want to see if the series is for you, just play 7 and see if you like it. If you want more, play 4, then 5, then Zero. If you still want more, look into 3, 6 and the first PSP game. If you yet still want more, play the other PSP game and the even earlier games.
>>735012186>required4, 5, Zero then 7, the former three are piss easy to emulateif you want a true entry point then play 7 first>skippable but you should play them anyway3 (JP fan TL only)6 if you have a working Xbox 360 (emulation still has issues apparently)X (very easy to emulate)
>>735012186Start with either 4 or 7, then play aroundAvoid Joint Assault, Assault Horizon (Legacy is fine) and the Export version of Electrosphere
>>735012186The PS2 trilogy of AC4, AC5 and AC Zero is pretty much the best starting point and emulation issues have pretty much been solved at this point.You can do AC7 first if you just want to do a single game.You can then spin-off from there into AC6, AC3 with the Fan translation, ACX and Assault Horizon Legacy (which is just a badly named AC2 remake on the 3DS), or even try Sky Crawlers which is licensed game Project Aces made that plays out like a typical Ace Combat game.
>>735011420https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZWHXrE0-iw
>>735012186As someone who technically started with PW, I'd try AC7 to start with and then do AC04 -> AC5 > ACZ.Continuity is not really all that important aside from AC5 -> ACZ, so it's up to how you wanna experience how the series has changed over time. AC7 is generally regarded as a "return to form" of sorts from the shitshow that was Assault Horizon, but it's pretty clear there was a lot of development hell behind its creation and I tend to regard the PS2 games as more "complete" in that sense and worth playing after.
>>735012365>>735012387>>735012415>>735012495>>735012606Alright, thanks!
>>734961445I sometimes like to imagine an AC protag as a legitimate autist who is just cranking music whole doing his thing. Every once and a while he flips over to radio and says>huh, wondering who/what they're talking aboutbefore getting back to business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h6QFqGla7E>It's wasn't magic, it's a scam! Now's our chance! Do it, Trigger!
>>734975963Fuck off frogshit. You're not part of the cool club so go be a pest somewhere else.
>>735014371I hope a JPG dog comes back for AC8
>>735014670Anon...
>>735013872>he follows you into the tunnel with no hesitation>takes a shot huginn/muninn meant for you>gives you the idea of flying up through the space elevatorHe had a damn good character arc after shooting down Full Band and piecing together that Erusia framed Trigger for Harling's murder.
>>735015081Yeah people shit on him way too much too, mostly cause the base game nerfed every ally's damage to near 0. In the DLC he actually pulls weight and the only reason I'd say he isn't more liked outside of that (i've noticed he has definite female yumejoshis over the years) is cause you can't order him around like in AC5/Zero.
>>735015279>mostly cause the base game nerfed every ally's damage to near 0For that? Why would I want to sit back and let AI allies shoot anything down?
>>735015360Well it stops your allies from feeling like useful people. It also doesn't really take away from much, in the DLC Strider squadron feels like one of the most cohesive teams in any AC game and they don't just have more dialogue and dynamism than before but they can actually kill enemies (including the Alicorn itself apparently)Granted, nowadays allied damage can be modded if you want them to pull weight or not.
>>735015485Maybe I just enjoy personally shooting down every plane and bombing every ground target.
>>735015549That's fine.
>Ammunition zero!
>>735014670the princess will start a production line for them
>>7350123876 also works on the Xbox X
>>734964759>That's still a "now there are two cakes" situation.The original was Belkan and you not being a shitty fake was somehow part of their master plan to destabalize things so they could have their revenge. Again.Anyway go shoot this massive city sized airship that appeared out of nowhere, quickly now, the latin orchestra charges by the hour.
>>735006390Given the timeline, it could be a young Dision from 3.
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>>735014130As a pilot, that made my butthole pucker.Theoretically safe, but if even the smallest thing went wrong, his ass is slamming into concrete at 70+ knots. Zero room for error, so when he had to correct and angle a slight yaw, pitch, and roll... Hot damn.Weirdly enough, it would have probably been easier with a larger aircraft, if it could fit in the tunnel. His own propwash was working against him in such a small space.
>>734980416>>734983859>the international versions of Electrosphere had the story and context removedWtf Namco
<< This is the new state. "A World with No Boundaries" we'll create. >>
>>735020732Japanese being retarded, more news at eleven
>>735011669i bet prez drops some wicked FAEBs
>>735005160>that bit where Pixy says "Yo buddy, still alive?" and everyone cheerswarmed my cold heart desu
>>735005756cockpit view just feels weird and wrongMaybe in VR where you can easily turn your head and also see out of your peripheral vision
>>735005756This. I've never played any Ace Combatr in third-person view. In fact, I would switch the view to actual cockpit, instead of just the default first-person.
>>735020732they thought the west is too stupid for honorubu japanesu storiyu
>>735009186i want to fuck planes not some disgusting woman
>>735024237>>735021796I think it was just Namco being cheap, not wanting to pay for localized voice acting or translation
>>735014130palpable joy at the end of that
>>735012186Looks like I'm an outlier but I think it's worth playing the first two PS1 games. I'd personally rather replay those games than the PSP games.
>>734962065>You're not going to believe this, Jean-Louis!Every time I replay 04 it still gets me. God DAMN do I love that game.
>Stonehenge defense mission>They're gonna use the last working Stonehenge gun to blow up one of the Arsenal Birds>They only have one shot because the gun will break after firing>The ground team starts losing hope once it takes damage and the aiming computer breaks>Then one of them says "We DO still have an aiming computer: OUR EYES!">Have to damage one of the Arsenal Bird's engines to slow it down enough for these guys to manually aim and fire a railgun
>>735025594>HIT, DAMN IT!
