Why is /v/ wrong about everything ?
STOP YOU CAN'T SAY THE F WORD
idk how anyone finds the motivation to play a slow ahh corridor walker photography sim in these timesthe protags got their models lifted but still thats no reason to suddenly jump onto the fomo train
>>734961795Protip: Project Zero is scarier if you play it in black and white.
>SNIIIIIIFFFFF>>734959085>controller and keyboardhow is the game with kb+m? i feel like controller is superior since it feels more like holding a camera
>>734962269It's not slow at all compared to the originals. I just wish it had a comfy hub like 3.
>>734962416Yeah and aiming doesn't have to be precise, it's more about timing.
Anyone know what's up with the weird black triangle flickering in FF3? I assumed it's hardware z-fighting but it appears in software mode as well.Is that a pcsx2 bug or general issue with the game?
I'm having a blast!
>>734957473Do you really expect me to believe someone scalping Gamekey cards?
I just got to chapter 3 but I also fucked around a ton in chapter 2, probably spent an hour looking for twin dolls before the game actually told me what they were.>but anon, they tell you that like 30 seconds after starting the chapter if you go the right wayYes, IF you go the right way. Anyways, I'm having fun. Zoom and focal points seem pretty fucking good, I can already one-shot some basic ghosts with stealth shots this way. I do think stealth shots kind of ruin the appeal of ghost encounters in this series though, it's the "SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER" factor that makes them cool.
>>734961795lol
>>734964539Really makes you thinks
>>734964539>>734964848>muh charts>muh redditsad
>>734964539I assume even less people on consoles since it's capped at 30fps.Grim.
Picked up the game. Hope it's good.
>>734964539Welp there goes the franchise I guess. Oh well. Probably for the best.
>>734965592The sad part is the modern audiences not buying the remake despite it getting censored for them. :(
>>734965728Only pckeks care about fps tho
>>734965821never listen to the "modern audience" (california/pissrahell) claims on anything and do the opposite to succeed.
>>734964539HAHAHAHA
A true terror history.Tecmo is afraid of this.
>censored
>>734966073>Remember what they took from you
>>734966073Remember what they took from you.
>>734966073>Wii version """Mayu"""Not my Mayu
>>734966073>game about scary atmosphere>play in a bikiniI genuinely don't get this
>>734966240Post-game rewards. One of my least favorite things about the costume discourse is how no one acknowledges that, short of DLC unlocks or mods, no one actually does their first playthrough with distracting alt costumes. Even Haunting Ground makes you beat the game once before you can use Illegal in Some States.
>>734962416Kb+mouse plays great. Except for the camera zoom. The scroll sensitivity on mouse is so low you have to roll the wheel 24 times to go from fully zoomed out to in. Making zoom basically unusable. Hope they patch it.
>>734966073
>>734966240Au contraire, mon friend. Sexy women arousing the viewer is one of the most venerable traditions of horror movies.
>>734964539What did you expect? The series was never popular
>>734966240You weren't even born zoomie, you wouldn't get it.
>>734966240Sex and horror is a timeless combination. It's like Chocolate and strawberry. Your broken zoomer brain will never get it tho because it was fried by feminzaism.
>>734966525Yep, even Until Dawn got the idea of the horror movies right. It was a good snoy-film.
>>734964539It is pretty sad how the first most popular horror franchise (Resident Evil) sells 5+ million copies on release, the second most popular horror franchise (Silent Hill) sells around 1 million at launch, but after that there's just nothing. Fatal Frame is basically the third biggest horror franchise historically and yet it is absolutely tiny, likely only surviving from small development costs.
>>734966824There's something visceral that unites eroticism and horror. Call it Eros and Thanatos if you want, but it's truly powerful. The horror films of the '80s aimed at teenagers sought easy money: offering breasts and violence to a teenage audience, but they hit the right note. The same goes for the Italian Giallo genre.
>>734968113Dead Space was a big one but EA is retarded. Anyways, I've long been convinced that Keisuke Kikuchi and Makoto Shibata have either seniority or dirt on someone because I don't get how these games keep being greenlit. I love that they do but it's not making financial sense.
>>734968514>The same goes for the Italian Giallo genre.Which is where Haunting Ground draws its most direct influences from. Small wonder that few games have combined eroticism and horror as effectively as that one did.
>>734964848>flop numbersgo woke, go broke
>>734966073based and j-pilled.
>still shitposting about fanservice and censorship>and now the steamsharts fags are here tooWell it's a mediocre game anyways with the ghost rage mode that triggers 95% of the time even with the charms meant to reduce the chances of it and does nothing but make fights take longer, change to fatal time that makes the former issue even more annoying as well as the usual aesthetic downgrades remakes do; so shit threads are what it deserves.
>>734966621best scene in the game>no way fag>birds away
>>734961795How American is it?
>>734969309Not at all. Fatal Frame never has been American, even the "bad ones". That's the actual reason why it's niche, they're uncompromisingly Japanese in their very concepts and presentation.
>>734964539>Silent Hill escaped from the niche survival horror flop pool>Fatal Frame couldn'tGrim.
seems like its fixed on proton experimental. they fixed a video crash for atelier yumia yesterday, which seems like it was the very same issue in FF2 Remake and other KT games i guess. hope cachy os updates its proton quickly, i really dont want to lose the fsr4 upgrade i can force with it
>>734961795>making another thread for the censored slop game This is what they took away from you. Enjoy the 3k players lmao
>>734969531Don't bother. These subhuman zoomoids won't get it.
>>734969531>This is what they took away from youif THAT is something you think matters in a video game and something you believe developers/publishers care about putting in games then you are fucking retarded and nothing else. except maybe a genuine pedophile.
//IMPORTANT SPATS UPDATE//it appears there is thigh that exists underneath the spats. you can see mayu's soft thigh clipping through.
>>734969676>c-censorship i-i-isn't important!!!!>STOP POINTING IT OUT!!!!!!!You game flopped because of censorship lmao
>>734969442>>Silent Hill escaped from the niche survival horror flop poolInto getting an endless spew of outsourced trash and bad adaptations like the movies btw the Return to SIlent Hill guy has said that he wants to adapt Fatal Frame next that continue to tarnish it's legacy while it's original devs have been disbanded for decades
>>734969531>killing a good franchise for 20cm of fabricyou autists never fail to amaze me
>>734969531It was expected from Koei. Bunch of faggots.>>734969912If it didn't matter why remove it?
>>734969912WE didn't kill shit. Your retarded employers did when they took the blackrock bucks to butcher a classic and fuck up its legacy.
>>734961795The fucking red Ghosts are pissing me off, Granted I'm playing in Combat mode but still they fucking enrage at least twice per encounter
>censored thrash
>>734969531creep shot critical
>>734969872The first Silent Hill movie was released in 2005, zoomie.
>>734969993>It was expected from Koei. Bunch of faggots.fpbp
>>734961795>I'm having so much fun>Why is /v/ wrong about everything ?/v/ isn't wrong. You just have garbage fucking taste. Cool that you're having fun I guess.
>>734970583kek
>>7349696765 killed franchise discussion by letting the tertiaries in. I like the game but I really do wish NoA had let the swimsuits pass just so these idiots would shut the fuck up.
>>734969531wow so hot !!!1
>>734970414And honestly I'd rather replay shf than 4/5/6 any day.
>>734970583Is that Sphere Hunter?
>>734969869There are plenty of legitimate complaints you could have against horror game remakes that are fine to have even if I disagree with them. You might dislike the changes in atmosphere, the change in camera perspective, the changes in the combat, the voice acting etc.But if you seriously think "I can't walk backwards down the stairs with Mayu behind me while holding the camera obscura to get an unintended look at her panties for one second" is a real complaint that any real human cares about then I foresee a prison sentence in your future.
>>734970583
>>734964539Pretty much the same numbers as 4th and 5th PC versions.
So, how its the remake?>its okay, I guessYou mean, like all Fatal Frame games?
>>734969702nice
>take beloved niche survival horror game series>cut out all the fan service >add in souls-like elements that nobody wanted>it flops hardWhat do we can call this type of retardation/v/ros?
>>734971096
>>734971445...Yes?
>>734971445The actual gameplay feels sort of rough up front, the tutorialization feels off and it's trying harder to make the camera feel more like an actual camera with expected features like focus and zoom. You get used to it as you play. Beyond that, it's Fatal Frame, you probably already know how you feel about that.
Why are these threads so ESL?
>>734972117Shitposters gonna shitpost.
>>734972117ESL website
>>734972117Koei uses a jeet internet advertising group. You can smell the curry on the shill posts.
>>734971445I don't think I'm going to play it again, and I actually HAVE played every game in this franchise aside from the 3DS thing. Even watched the movie, which really had no business being called Fatal Frame. Everything is a bullet sponge, the unlockable costumes are a sham (3 million points each for what is literally just generic female casual clothing in Japan), and a few gamebreaking bugs. I think I'm just going to pass on these games from now on unless I hear from no less than 3 different word of mouth sources that it's better. I did not have fun
>>734971445Rebalanced the combat where ghosts are as fast as 3rd and 4th game ghosts. Tough early game but once you find enough upgrade points to get more Focal points things start dying as fast as in the original. When you get the "Radiant" lens its like Blast on steroids and you can kill ghosts extremely fast even one-hit-kill them with 14-film. After that the only way you really get hurt is if a ghost goes Crimson Head mode at the wrong time.Kusabi hunts you in more place than just the mansion, broken neck woman got slightly bigger tits. Sidequests are now properly tracked so you can't miss them anymore which is a bit of a double-edged sword because some of the quests in original game were stupidly hard to track correctly (one missed blue ghost capture and you can't complete it)About to get to the best part of the original game the dollmaker mansion. So far remake has been decent, better than Dead Space Remake or SH2 remake, not as good as RE4make.
>>734971445You already made this post last thread retard.
>>734966431>scroll sensitivity on mouse is so low you have to roll the wheel 24 times to go from fully zoomed out to in.Wow just like a real analog camera. What will tecmo think of next
>>734971691>What do we can call this type of retardationI call it the >"false-flagging redditor/resetera tranny didn't play the original and spams "WOKE" in hopes /v/ bans the word"-syndrome.
>>734972385yeah, but it was inconclusive
>>734972457>inconclusiveThere were even more posts talking about the actual game and mechanical changes in that thread that you could've read. Fuck off
>>734964539I did thisI inflicted economic terrorism...I am not sorry about it
>Woman in the box comes out of the box>Charge radiant Special shot>Get in her face while she's still in the animation of coming out.>Fatal Frame defeats her in one shot.I can see why ghosts stealing your blue bar when opening a door is a mechanic, to prevent players from completely trivializing all ghost fights with radiant mode.
>>734968113Dead space was consistently hitting between 2-4 million copies. Even after a 10 year hiatus and despite the xitter tumblerinas shit talking, it hit 2 million copies easily on first two weeks. Which is total lifetime sales if DS1EA were just idiots over budgeting it and thus turning them into guaranteed flops no matter how well they performed
>>734968571Maybe they are so cheap to make it does not need massive numbers to be a decent return on investment
>>734972287Go back tourist
>>734970983Stop being disingenuous nigger for a second. Back in the day they used to reward players doing challenge runs with these >>734966164 costumes. Players would feel motivated to replay the game instead of slapping DLC tag prices. I sincerely hope KT pays you well enough.
>>734973391esl detected
>>734973137That window is getting smaller and smaller. Even Gust has come out and said that the performance of pre-Ryza Atelier isn't enough anymore, and it's fucking Atelier. You wanna talk about cheap?
>>734970983These faggots never even play the games. Neither originals or new versions. So glad I never take thekr hot takes seriously. Played the DS remake recently and it was great. Clearly made by hands who understood the original and improved upon it. Yet if you take /v/aggots seriously, you would think it was all about toilet signs and voice actor faces used as face models
>>734973564Stop replying to yourself, jeet.
>>734972041Do the spookies have too much HP? Seems like number one complaint in feedback that random encounters take 10 minutes
>>7349685714 and 5 obviously had some kind of exclusivity deal with Nintendo so those got funding through that. PC versions are just Koei Tecmo lazily dumping PC ports for extra buck, port quality be damned. Now when pretty much every game is made by either UE5 or Unity, porting to PC has no additional costs whatsoever.Much like horror films, horror games can have relatively small teams and budgets because of the overall pacing of those games being low and scale of them being rather small. Its easy to make a horror game look good because environments are usually superdark small rooms and corridors where camera can't move around too much.
>>734973465Ironic since this series was popular in ESL countries.
>>734973564>Played the DS remake recently and it was greathuh?
>>734973654who askedyou didn’t even play the game why are you here
>>734973647No, the game is just stingy with the camera upgrades early on. The moment you upgrade Focal Points and stack Standard Damage Charm the standard papa and mama peasants go down in 1-3 14-film shots.
>>734973654proof?
>>734973647I don't know what the recent patch did but the game does a terrible job of selling its combat specifically in the first chapter, like I don't know how the first two fights shipped in the state that they did. Between the health pools, the slow reload on type-07, and not knowing how focus/focal points really work because it's the first goddamn fight, it is VERY easy to feel like you're playing the game wrong. You probably aren't, you just have nothing of value to work with. You pretty quickly start accumulating film and prayer beads in chapter 2 and the combat stabilizes a lot in that timeframe. I haven't gotten the radiant filter yet but it apparently trivializes the game wholesale.
>>734966073This is not in the remake? Wont buy, simple as that. Wii won.
>>734973846Japan is an ESL country. You lose. I win. HAHAHAHA
>>734973846stop replying to yourself
>>734961795censored slop
>>734973924>Wii wonThe only version to leave Asia got censored thoughbeit
>>734973720I still have my original Xbox system somewhere in my warehouse. >>734973846See flags, also DreadOut.
>>734973919>I haven't gotten the radiant filter yet but it apparently trivializes the game wholesale.Not the whole game, because ghosts can still steal your stamina bar away when you open doors. Those fights you have to fight without special shots. Random encounter spawns become a joke though.
>>734973526Meanwhile E33 hits record numbers despite being made by what, like 30 guys? This is on top of the really difficult stuff, like making game engines, being half automated today. With prepackaged kits easily available.Something in the pipeline is really messed up when you need a decade and literally battalions worth of bodies to make a single title costing millions upon millions
>>73497407830 (plus a few hundreds outsourced people that totally didn't count)
>>734973647>random encounters take 10 minutesNot sure if it was patched but on normal I end most encounters with 3 or 4 Type-14. Just line up your red dots and wait for fatal frame.
>>734966240My question is why does someone always talk about how a bikini doesn't fit into horror? Do they not understand that in order to wear that bikini they first have to 1. Beat the game (possibly on a higher difficulty)2. Purchase the costume with whatever currency is in game3. Navigate to the costume select menu4. Browse past all the other costumes that probably do "fit better"5. Select the costumeIf you don't think it fits THEN DON'T FUCKING USE IT
>>734974062Is this shit even accurate?
>>734973683Dead space (DS), like fatal frame, got extensively shat on here. Because of fringe issues, like pantie shots or toilet signs, blown up by malicious faggots who never were going to play the game anyway Pretty much exact mirrors of the sjw woketard behaviour they pretend to oppose so much. Same shit, different pile
>>734974267you lost pedonormal people are weirded out by degen gooner costumes in a game with underage characters
This game is literally too good for this board.
>>734974505I've said it before and I'll say it again, modern /v/ is just 2012 era Tumblr but on the other end of the spectrum. Same bluehair harpy tier screeching but with different triggers.
>>734972408lol
>>734974660Fatal Frame in general is.
>>734974505ah, got it. Still, dead space remake is not good
>>734974505except disdain for censorship and tranny shit is reflected in the real world with shit sales, your ally studios closing down and woke dev being laid off.You act smug, but you're not only wrong, but in the minority. I bet you still miss Highguard.
>>734974232>>734973919>>734973772I haven't played this fatal frame yet, but from your descriptions it sounds like the damage scaling is off balance. Base damage is too weak, while multipliers give too much
>>734961795>Why is /v/ wrong about everything ?>right about concord>right about highguard>right about marathon>wrong about evertyhing?
>>734974267Excessive booba kinda ruined the atmosphere of the 5th game. Titty outfits are fine for the protagonist but when most of the monsters you fight have ghost gazonkas the atmosphere stops being scary. Those ghosts belong in the H-game version where you get to capture them for specific and complex exorcist rituals.
>>734974956What game is that
>>734974956I'm talking purely about unlockables. Why do people complain about unlockable costumes that don't fit when they don't even have to wear them? Hell they have to go out of their way to unlock them, much less actually wear them
>>734961795>censored slophave the mods come out yet?
>>734974920Yeah the camera without the upgrades is weak. Once you get the first Focal Point upgrade the camera starts doing comparable damage to original games camera. The really weird part about the game is that max capacity for green film is only 8, while max capacity for red film is 28, you also find red film much more often. Its like playing Resident Evil and you barely find any shotgun ammo, meanwhile you get Magnum ammo almost as often as pistol ammo. Its really weird.
>>734974920It's not "base damage", the infinite film is meant to use for exploration and shit. It would completely trivialize the entire resource management aspect (that isn't particularly demanding to begin with) if the infinite film did good damage. Which is what happens in the original.
Is ff4 THAT bad?
>>734974920It feels bad if you play it wrong and type-07 is as inefficient as it should be in the grander scheme, but the main issue is the first chapter (the demo content) makes things feel more off than they would if you played for even 20 minutes past the demo. Once you get some film and upgrade focal points even once, it's significantly improved.
>>734961795I'm in chapter 3 and there's something I don't get. Why would I use any film other than type90? It's fast, powerful and plentiful.
>>734975098Type-90 works different in this one, it feels weaker than type-14 but it reloads faster than the rest. I don't know why they changed that, but my impression is that type-61 is like a shotgun and type-90 is more like a machine gun.
>>734974993Fatal Frame 5: Maiden of the Big Booba. Overall an ok game but the story is nonsensical, difficulty is way too easy and the game isn't scary.
>>734970983The sad thing is that that faggot didn't even buy the games and he confused the fatal frame 4 with 5 to complain about censorship kek
>>734961795did someone get a controller working under linux? Mouse and keyboard controls works fine.
>>734973647They don't have too much HP normally. It's the overly frequent red mode regenerating some of their health and increasing their defense until you dispel it that's the problem.>>734974505>blown up by malicious faggots who never were going to play the game anywayWhy were you even going to play it to begin with? To pay the dickheads at EA who casually offed Visceral in the first place? And now have killed the series again anyways because their greed hasn't changed at all?
>>734975263Ah yes I see the resemblances
>>734975164The controls are so dogshit that NOA refused to release the game in North America.
>>734975164Yes and no. It has the worst overall gameplay in the series, ghosts are almost universally dull to compensate for the weird Wii control scheme and the levels are glorified loops and hallways that wouldn't scratch the Himuro Mansion or Manor of Sleep. Still, it some of the best atmosphere and storytelling as well, so I would say it's a better horror experience than a horror game.
>>734975063Because it’s a horror game and not your cunny simulator seek help
>>734975164It's honestly just boring to replay, it's hard to not die from boredom trying to get the hard mode ending. And it introduced the ghost hand cancer to the series. Also it's a glitchy mess on the Wii version.
>>734975164What is there to talk about? Its very run-of-the-mill game, the flashlight gimmick is completely trivialized with a gamepad so all the detective guy chapters are hilariously easy compared to camera chapters which can have pretty challenging fights. Only memorable ghost was the goth chick and her fight is just an easier version of the Fatal Frame 2 twin doll ghost fight.
holy sexo
>>734975164No it’s goodOnly fake fans dislike it
>>734975627>Get chased by Kusabi, grab her hand and hide in under a table together.>Mayu gets out of the hidey hole and stands in front of it like a confused moron.Good thing Mayu is such an idiot even Kusabi doesn't give a shit about her.
>>734975416That had nothing to do with it. The official reason was that they wanted the softlock bug fixed first but KT was too lazy to bother. Although really it was that NoA hates japanese games as 5's release later on and several other games have proved
Who was the retard that decided to switch the movement and aim controls on the camera in the first game?
Broken neck womans bust got bigger but its really hard to take a good picture of it.
>>734965821>I cant play a video game without my dick being hard and im jerking off.
>>734976236And the worst part is that he can still play the old "uncensored" version, yet xhe is still here sperging out about it.
FF4 at least carries the honor of doing something different with the setting. There is only so much>ancient weeb mansion has a ritual go tits upYou can do before things get stale
>>734976192I love 1's retarded bullshit so much.
Remake Mayu is definitely the best
>>734976387I'll give 4 credit for being the first FF where the characters aren't playing second fiddle to the ghosts in terms of story. Also the hozuki doll hunt is fun.
>>734976387They should just make ff6 it's own thing with no connections.
I wonder if they will remake 1 and 3 as well.
>>734976404Man, the voice "acting" is atrocious.
>>7349767752nd one was the bestseller one which is why they remade it twice now.
>>734976157>they wanted the softlock bug fixed first but KT was too lazy to botherThe sad thing is I can't even tell which one kek. I ran into 3 while playing>killing the ghost just after the first breaker room visit (this is optional at least)>killing the ghost in the prologue on NG+>mission 8-1 (the game skips spawning Haibara, meaning you fight the two after him and then wait for time to tick to 0 and lose)
>>734976775It would be nice to have the complete set of games playable without emulating or spending hundreds on PS2 copies. Whatever retards say about censorship, this remake does replicate the atmosphere of the original and that's the most important part. Because all the games have similar settings and gameplay, I hope they do remake the rest since they could do plenty of asset reuse.
>>734966501damn look at all those upvotes
>>734961795It looks worse than Mask of the Lunar Eclipse- a Wii Game from like 2008.
>>734976236>can't appreciate female sex appeal without needing to touch his dickCertified porn addict moment. You zoomoids need to casually hang out at some striptease bars.
>>734966529This
>>734965821Reminder you never bought the previous games
shame this game flopped. the remake has a lot of issues but overall its still a good horror game.
>>734976192>switchConsider that Fatal Frame 1 came out around the same time as Halo. Controls weren't standardized yet.
>>734977528Get woke, go broke.
KT should have done a remastered collection of 1-3 instead of remaking 2 yet again. hopefully this 2 remake is a framekwork for them to make a new mainline game. i'm not really sure why they thought doing another 2 remake was a good idea.
>Mourners completely miss you with their unga bunga flailing if you just crouch.Why did they make the cave ghosts easier? They were already pretty easy. Like Lickers except once you took a shotgun to their face you just back off a bit and let them wave their arms for a while.
Kusabi scares me too muchI facefuck the other ghosts at this point even if I get jumpscared, but that bitch is always keeping me on my toes because I don't know if he's scripted or if he has an actual patrol pattern and roams the whole map
>>734977657 One thing is being standarized, and 2 different configs on the same game. Im talking that while on third person, you move like a normal game, left stick moves you, right aims. But then, when you hold the camera, the stick that moves you, it´s the right one, while the left is the aim.
>>734964539This game probably wasn't very expensive to makeCheck how many players the warriors games had before dw origins, and those have an ungodly amount of sequels
downloading the demo nowwhat am i in for
This is my first FF game and I plan to go back and play the others after having completed this one. I can see why it’s such an acquired taste and at the same time I’m confused, I respect it not being incredibly casualized. Although with all of the modern style tutorial popups I don’t know if they intentionally have left all of the mechanics obtuse or if they tried and failed to make it easier to understand. I didnt play pre enrage nerf so I don’t know how broken the game was initially, but simply having always made sure all the target reticles were lit up when I attacked I was able to get through the early encounters in a couple of minutes at max on normal mode. I think anyone else still having trouble probably hasn’t put any upgrades into focal points or is using the default film type. Probably not using the Dodge mechanic either which until you encounter the chicks with swords that loop forward strikes you can just spam backward and avoid almost everything. I’ve now gotten to the point where I can understand that you would use different filters in tandem to activate different special shots at different times although I haven’t really implemented it into my gameplay yet. I also don’t really understand the different film types aside from Type 14 being a direct damage upgrade to the starting one. What use case is there for the film that is both low in power and slow to load? A game that is only talked about for having fanservice and being spooky is surprisingly deep mechanically and unclear in its instruction.
>>734976775Not impossible if this remake sells well.>https://www.crunchyroll.com/hi/news/interviews/2026/3/12/fatal-frame-ii-crimson-butterfly-remake-interview
>>734978217have you played fatal frame 2 before? If not then you will be in for quite a ride although I bet the demo still has the prenerf combat so I would recommend playing on normal mode. the patch nerfed enemy hp to make the game easier because KT changed longtime staples of the series with how fatal frames work and did a piss poor job at explaining it.if you've already played 2 then expect a pretty mediocre remake that doesn't really do much better than the original.
>>734976652Some of those doll are hidden so well.
>>734978221I feel like the big "next gen" evolution prospect that this remake is offering is the depth and nuance of the camera features, to which I understand but feel like there's more refinement to be made. If the implementation of stuff like focus, zoom and filters is a first draft effort that FF6 intends to refine then I'm cool with it, but it does feel like a first draft effort.
>>734978195>Check how many players the warriors games had before dw origins,Those are all late ports, retardbro.
>>734977528The games is at best selling list in the Nintendo eshop
>>734978615>Tendies saving FF for the 4th timeYou guys are alright sometimes
>>734977528is 5k really a slop for this kind of game ? that's a decent number
>>734978221>What use case is there for the film that is both low in power and slow to load?you can load it up ahead of time to do stronger damage for your first attack. otherwise, you're better off not using it unless you have a filter with faster load times (can upgrade, too). type 90 loads the fastest, but doesn't do a ton of damage. it's very useful for keeping ghosts off of you. the mechanics are confusing at first, but it all clicks after playing for a while. mostly you want to go for fatal frames (when the red light starts flickering) for max damage + stun. once you upgrade, all of the film types are useful in different situations.>>734978535i feel the same. fatal frame has a unique gameplay system, and it feels like this is the first decent attempt at adding some depth to it. 4 and 5 had some interesting ideas, but since they were made for motion controls they don't really translate to other systems well.
>>734978752Can they save it hard enough that we get out of this remaster/remake hell that we've been in since 5 shit its pants?
>>734978759Especially when the gameplay is horror pokemon snap.
>>734978759It's Steam numbers only, at best it's 1/3rd of the bigger picture. I'm not trusting anything until KT puts out some early performance statement like they did with the remasters of 4 and 5.>https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/01/koei-tecmo-confirms-fatal-frame-and-blue-reflection-sales>https://noisypixel.net/fatal-frame-mask-of-the-lunar-eclipse-sells-120000-units-worldwide/
>>734978759I'm not entirely sure really. 2 remake beat the other games but they were also just remasters instead of a straight up remake. KT has confirmed that the previous 2 sold decently enough but they were also really budget releases to begin with. 2 remake had a way bigger budget but it was still also priced as a "budget" release for $50. So I guess overall it's sold more but was it actually profitable enough? Maybe, either way I don't see KT putting the series on ice again after this even if the numbers are pretty low.
>>734978804>What use case is there for the film that is both low in power and slow to load?>you can load it up ahead of time to do stronger damage for your first attackyou can also load it while the ghosts are busy getting enraged since the animation is quite long
>>734974076>ghosts can still steal your stamina bar away when you open doorsCan't you quickly shut the door before getting jumpscared?
>>734974232>Just line up your red dots and wait for fatal frame.I would if it didn't work like ass half the timeI clearly shoot a fatal frame in the faggot's face and somehow not only doesn't get damaged, I get hit and grabbed
>>734978221Blind is kinda useless. Slow is useful against certain ADHD ghosts and multi-ghost battles. What people use most of the time in original is Blast or Zero which are just high damage super shots. Radiant lens is the remakes "Blast" and acts a lot like a short range shotgun. Short range doesn't really matter since you want to be close to the ghost to maximise the damage anyway.
>>734979094its because 2 remake has a weird stagger system that they do a piss poor job at explaining. that white line | in their health bar is a threshold for shutter chances and beefy fatal frames. basically eat away at their health until you get to it before you can get the big damage. shit combat system and i wish they would have just left it the way it was.
>>734979094If the ghost didn't stagger from the red screen with bell "ding ding ding" sound going off, then you either missed the ghosts face or pressed the trigger too late. Only non-boss ghost types that can ignore staggers are Mourners after you damaged them once. After they stop punching the air 3 times they reset back to being staggerable again.
>>734978440this is kino
>>734964539>pshitters only play indies well no shit sherlock, it's a dead platform for literally anything else, I hope this is a sign to stop porting games to it
>>734979235Fatal Frames work like they used to, they nerfed the Fatal Frame combos so that the combo shots only use the shittiest film. You don't have to look at the treshold if you focus on Fatal Frames only. It just shows when your standard shots do so much damage that it staggers the ghost.
>>734977357>I hope they do remake the rest since they could do plenty of asset reuse.It's team ninja, they reuse assets like fucking crazy to the point FF5 ghosts appear in Nioh, and I bet most of this game uses nioh or rise of the ronin assets too
>>734978376Glad I bought it. Hopefully they do 3 next.
>>734978376i want fatal frame 6 first. this is the third remake/re-release in a row. it feels like they've been slowly building up steam to make a new entry, and even more remakes after this might kill that momentum. no idea what kind of numbers koei tecmo would consider a success, but i think we'll see more games with the new engine since they already have something they can work with.
Wow. I make a post actually talking about the gameplay and all the fags reeeing incessantly about the fanservice outfits getting removed are gone and it's now like 3 people discussing the game.
>>734978376>SH1 remake that will most likely be followed up by 3>crapcom clearly about to do REmake 5 or CV or a remake of REmake>and now FF might just remake 1 and 3 too instead of doing 6>Townfall will be the only wholly new installment any horror series gets for the next several yearsThis all scares me more than anything in any of these games
>>734978615I wonder how this game is going to sell in Japan, but releasing this game so close to resident evil 9 and monster hunter stories 3 wasn't a good idea
>>734979820>ff5 remaster -> ff4 remaster with updated visuals -> ff2 full on remake built from the ground up -> new gametrust the plan..
They say it's more difficult that the original Is this true? I couldn't play pass night 3 on Fatal Frame 1. It was too much for me. I'd like to try this but maybe I should play the original first.
>>734980049It's definitely more difficult than the OG FF2, I haven't gotten far enough in the remake to compare it with FF1.
>>734980049The new battle system makes more sense if you'd played the rest of the series, but they did nerf the difficulty and the game gets easier after you start upgrading your camera. >I'd like to try this but maybe I should play the original first.Depends on how you approach long standing series. If you can stand ps2 fixed camera survival horror, they're worth playing in order. You can definitely try the remake, though. The gameplay systems aren't as complicated as they first appear to be. Try the demo.
>>734979710The "censorship" retards really got exorcised out of the thread it's nice now.
>>7349800491 is arguably the hardest game and OG 2 fights 4 for the title of easiest game in the series so you might fare better in this remake than you think. Honestly though play the original first if you want, it's not that long anyway so you won't even be putting off the remake for long.
>6 hours already>Only starting chapter 4I think I'm too much of a pussy, but at least I'm pushing through I'm really enjoying the atmosphere and the bits of lore I'm picking up
>>734980530do you think mio is upset that her sister wore spats instead of panties? i feel like she suffered the most out of anyone in the whole debacle.
>>734978963At the minimum I'd take remasters of 1 and 3 available on modern stores but I'd love a new entry.
Was this ghost rage thing in the original? It sucks.
>>734980964no, it was a mechanic introduced in 4 if i remember correctly.also unrelated but whats the most important to level up first if anybody knows?
Remember to not run when holding Mayu's hand, her leg hurts!
Leer attacks are fucking retarded and should be removed. You have like a millisecond to evade them and they take huge amounts of your will power. This can happen whenever and at any distance. There's zero tells for it. Gay as fuck.
>>734981403Nah it’s funGit gud shitter
>>734980964No. But Wii had a similar mechanic. That happened nowhere near as often and didn't heal them when it triggered like this does.>>734981403I started to notice that some give you time to react, short as it is, but yeah most do come out almost instantly which is obnoxious.
>>734981072dirt removal is necessary to clean off mayu since there are no showers in the village. she'll show you which parts of her body got dirty and you have to photograph them.>>734981403they do suck. you sort of get a feel for when it's gonna happen after awhile, though.
>>734981403>There's zero tells for it.Yeah, apparently it's because "you stare at them too much with the camera", but it can happen anytime and there isn't a single thing in their animations that tells you they're about to do it besides that gay fog 0'5 seconds before it triggers
>>734981676I'm not sure, but I think there's a "wind up" before it triggers. A few times I've seen the ghost start to move and it hasn't been an animation I recognised and then BOOM, leer attack. So I suppose you can learn it. Still sucks though.
>>734978440>how fatal frames work and did a piss poor job at explaining it.How do they work? Because I'm 6 hours in and I still don't get it. The alarm noise just seems to be the nerfed zero shot and not a fatal, you get the health down to the white line and now the screen flashes red but it takes so long to reload your film that it's usually over before you can take another shot and R1 shots don't seem to do anything during that window. Sometimes a completely normal zero shot just triggers fatal time and I don't fucking know why.
>>734977528>FlopYou really think every game needs to sell 10M copies just to break even like Marathon or AAA slop? This is a AA title at best and I doubt their budget was over 20M if even that
>>734979023>>ghosts can still steal your stamina bar away when you open doors>Can't you quickly shut the door before getting jumpscared?If you can I don't know how. The dodge button does nothing. You can see the ghost as the door opens and you start tapping dodge but it doesn't work. So if it's dodge then there must be a narrow timing window where if you're too early it just marks the QTE as "failed" and you have to wait for the leer and willpower drain.
>>734977984He does roam the whole map, consider him like the Mr X/Nemesis of the game just run away from him cause he can one shot you and is invincible until you actually have to fight himThey actually made his roaming bigger cause in the OG he was confined to only the mansion but now is the whole village
Radiant really breaks the game. Max focal upgrade + max radiant charm lets you 1 shot normal ghosts with no effort with a type 14 film. Playing on normal right now btw but I bet its just as easy on battle now after the nerf.
>>734978615Why would normalfags rather play this on a switch than on PC?
For the creepiest ghost in the game she's got a nice rack.
>>734982640because normal fags own a switch instead of a gaming pc. also fatal frame has always had a large female fanbase and they own a switch too.
>>734969912That was you, I've done nothing.
>>734982640When will it hit /v/ and open their eyes that steam numbers are by and large meaningless because the mainstream audiences don't play on gaming PCs
>>734982640Yes. Not just Switch but also Playstation. It might shock this board to learn this but the Fatal Frame series started on consoles.
>>734982640Normalfags own consoles.
>>734982645>Creepiest That's either the broken neck bitch or the Sadako looking bitch that lunges at you
>>734982042>you get the health down to the white line and now the screen flashes redafter that happens you need to wait for them to attack then fatal frame them to get fatal time. Also the shot that knocks them out of rage mode will trigger fatal time.>>734982178I think the timing with the doors is just fucked, or maybe it's just because I was playing at 30 fps. Sometimes I get it but more often I don't even if it feels like I reacted in time.
>>734982881I don't consider "mainstream audiences", people. They are goycattle NPCs.
>>734962269Its like old resident evils but instead of gun you shoot with camera flashes.
>>734982881When companies stop publicly confirming the opposite to be true.
anybody make a model swap mod yet to play the game it was meant to be played?
>>734983012The Fallen Woman is the Broken Neck ghost, iirc. She fell/jumped off an elevated walkway when the gate to hell was opened and snapped her neck when she hit the ground.
>>734982640i kind of want to try the gyro aiming. fatal frame would make for a fun VR game, too.
>>734966240Sex and violence have always been linked together and the reason is that humans base instincts get a huge stimulation during extremly stressful environments. You can extrapolate that to horror and the stimulation of the base instinct of fear which in turn stimulates the reception of sexappeal. It all just goes really well together on a basic human level and enhances the overall experience.
>>734982640>Why would normalfags rather play this on a switch than on PC?Because the fanbase has been on nintendo for 15 years at this point, not on PC
>>734982719> fatal frame has always had a large female fanbase and they own a switch too.Isreal?
falling lady is really the only creepy ghost in 2. 3 and 4 have the best ghosts when it comes to creepy factor. falling lady is easily within the top 5 for the entire series though.
>>734983012>Sadako looking bitchThe one locked in a box or the floating bitch?
>>734983365I'm not sure if I'm confusing it with 1 or 3 but pretty sure there was one in 2 that had like her neck bent sideways and 3 had one that she even walks backwards cause he head is doing a 180
>>734983642Locked in a box, she walks in an unnerving manner and I think when you do a fatal frame she lunges at you with surprising speed after
>>734983012>That's either the broken neck bitchFallen Woman is eesily the creepiest, because after her first fight she becomes a random encounter in Kiryu mansion. And the way she appears is by screaming and crashing right in front of you out of nowhere. Always startles you.
>>7349806601 is the hardest for sure. Some really brutal ghosts there like Wandering Monk.The guy with the oni mask, whassisname, was tough too.I'd say 4 is the easiest, a lot easier than 2. Even with the blooming mechanic I don't think there was a single difficult ghost in 4. 2 at least had the doll.
>>734982881>that steam numbers are by and large meaninglessThey're useful for comparing big AAA titles together. When it comes to more niche games and indie games it doesn't matter as much. Tranny nigress games consistently getting less than 500 players and the devs whining about customers being the reason is really funny though.If you look at the franchise steam charts, 4 and 5 sit around 3k-4k players so this remake is being played by all the franchise PC fans because the numbers are about the same.
>>734983960FF1 also had the broken neck one that I think she can jump scare you in a fucking save point and she's really strong too
>>734983960>I'd say 4 is the easiest,You haven't played 5 if you think 4 is easiest. All the flashlight chapters were really easy with a gamepad though.
>>734983919Fair, but aside from the jump scare she's not really that scary after cause after she falls she's slow af
/v/ is a PC board.Only pakis jeets and mudslims play on consoles. And argentinians.Sony is charging 80 fucking euros for their garbage games now, no one is stupid enough to get a ps5.
>>734983783The one in 2 is the one with her neck broken and head flopped to the side. The 'location ghost' photos can include ones that also wander and attack randomly, and show where traumatic events for the ghost in question happened. Fallen Woman is the Broken Neck ghost in 2. Fallen shows her when she died after the fall that snapped her neck.
>>734984321>after cause after she falls she's slow afNot in the remake. Remake version has her moving around like a weird mutant spider and jumping straight at you from a distance. Super creepy.
>>734969531The original even had boob jiggle.
>>734984330>euros
>>7349841604 is way easier than 5. Remember the tram level in 5 ? The only hard part in 4 is climbing the final tower, playing piano
>>734975875These models deserve so much r34 it's not even funny.
>>734983069>after that happens you need to wait for them to attack then fatal frame them to get fatal time.That makes sense, but they often just refuse to attack during this window. Which is really annoying considering how hyper aggressive they are when you don't want them to attack.>Also the shot that knocks them out of rage mode will trigger fatal time.Isn't it that fatal time knocks them out of rage mode rather than the other way around? Because that's the other thing that bugs me, you can trigger fatal time and your reward is that it goes normal mode and then 10 seconds later goes aggro mode again and regens its health.At the moment I'm surviving these fights with an overpowered camera because the gimmicks seem to be useless and just battering it to death with 4 points in focal points is the answer.
I have to say that the doll fight in 4, Watashi I think it's called, is scarier than the twins in 2 cause she looks creepier than the kids and she moves way too erratically I think it was one of the only genuine scary ghosts cause the other ones were either sexy or cute like the psycho girl that bullied everyone
>>734984676The hardest part in 4 is getting the fucking ghosts to bloom so you can 100% the ghost list. Every knockback comes with a tiny percentage chance to bloom but only on designated "bloomable" fights and because it's a poorly tested slopfest some of the bloomable fights have such low HP your only hope is to have an unupgraded camera/flashlight to keep it alive long enough that the dice roll might trigger. So fucking annoying to try a ghost 10 times in a row, reloading each time because it only survives one blast and one zero shot and won't bloom, forcing you to start a new save and try with zero upgrades. Argh.
>>7349846764 has that one fight towards the end with the 3 little girls or whatever, that one notably sucked ass.
how do i get both of the dolls at the top of the osaka house?
>>734968113Alien games sell pretty wellAnother game like Isolation would sell like hot cakes
>>734965852nah would absolutely buy this on ps5 if it didn't run like dogshit.
>>734984676>4 is way easier than 5.Not really. 4 has the multi ghost fight with the hospital staff, the lighthouse and of course the berserk moon disease mode. All ghosts are significantly slower in 5 because the game was designed for Wii-U controller and people would accidentally drop the expensive screen if they would have to rotate it around quickly.Only ghost that gives any real trouble whatsoever in 5 is the priestess who cut her own neck, she has very spastic and weird fast sudden lunges. Everything else is quite easy.
>>734973564I'll post this again. I'm one of the few people on this board that played this game during it's initial western launch. Get fucked bitch boy lol.
>schizo reposting the same photo
>>734985107I feel you on this, whoever decided to make Asagi's bloom in particular such a bitch to get is a motherfucker.
>>734986015
The fatal frame series was only ever difficult twice:1 - The entirety of FF1. This is some survival horror shit that really lives up to its name.2 - The last sections of FF3, when you're dealing with miasma (or was it called malice?) and you have to travel around the whole fucking map picking up puzzle pieces.
>>734986186Miku "all fucking ghosts must fucking hang" Hinasaki is just that powerful she solos the hardest game
>>734961795>Why is /v/ wrong about everythingthere’s a big chunk of fools around here that don’t play games and just want to be upset all day
>>734985875i got it on the xbox, i still own my copy but i'm too lazy to get it out of storage and take a picture.
>>734983960>>734984112I once had a fucked up encounter in FF1 on night 3 where I somehow triggered two ghosts at once in the water room on day 3.Also for me the worst ghost was always blinded woman. The encounter in the mask room is nasty.
turning the kusabi into a stalker that is just a one hit kill is the worst thing to happen in the remake. the kusabi being an instant kill made sense in the original since he was in short scripted areas but him being a threat out in the town is absolute ass now.
this demo is fun. i'm thinking about buying the full game.
>>734984772>Isn't it that fatal time knocks them out of rage mode rather than the other way around?No because the shot that knocks them out of rage will give fatal time even if you just shoot them normally without timing a counter, and you can't even activate fatal time while they're in that state because it always generates a new white line.>you can trigger fatal time and your reward is that it goes normal mode and then 10 seconds later goes aggro mode again and regens its health.I agree that them being able to do it at least twice in a single battle is a pain.
>>734986186The only miasma section that's hard is Kei's and that's because he's an underpowered little bitch. That chapter might be the single worst in franchise history but I digress, what the miasma chapters are is pure tedium. They could've been cut entirely and lost nothing, and having the topless big bad ride your ass because a candle went out doesn't change that. It's stressful, but it's an annoying stress.
>>734986835Go for it if you enjoyed it, it only improves from that point.
>>734973371
>>734986592>kusabiAvoiding him is so easy though
>>734978171I think the idea was that you hardly ever use the right stick anyways and since switching to viewfinger is by default on a face button, it would sorta make sense to be able to aim instantly as well.doubly so since the games have some fucked up split second vanishing ghosts.
How the fuck do pics work?I take that photo when I'm getting attacked, the ghost staggers, the hp dropped below the white mark and sometimes I can throw a few shots on the little fucker while ignoring reload time and others I have to wait to reload
>>734961795Why does anyone think these remakes are going to lead to anything but more remakes?
>>734985875I remember these games floating around GameStop for $50+ in the late 2000s. Too rich for my childhood self. I specifically remember them having a copy of Fatal Frame 3 one time and it being a big deal that it was even on the shelf.
>>734987539I got them in the early 2010s for about $25-$35 a pop. You can still get them digitally on PS3 for $10 a pop.
>>734969267Missed opportunity not giving Leon a Hayabusa costume
>>734974267Are you really surprised that the people defending censorship aren't actually fans of the original?
Is this more censored UE5 slop? I already played them it on PS2.
Does it still have the not-Sadako ghost?
Just downloaded it, does the patch the Fitgirl release comes with fix the enemies being bullet sponges? I remember having to mod Silent Hill f's enemies down to normal hp for my Lost in the Fog run, shit was tiresome.
>>734961795>got a balance patch because zoomoids failed to understand how combat workedLiterally they only thing they got right in the remake was making the ghosts challenging and the combat have nuance, but now it's just another spam ammo to win gamefuck this shit
>>734988451Yes
>>734988836Except early ghosts were extremely tedious in the beginning especially when they can aggravate multiple times and I'm saying this as a series veteran. They should make the layer game ghosts harder to compensate thought.
>>734987385You can do that combo of shots if you lower the ghosts health to below that white bar using a Fatal Frame attack (let them get close and wind up their attack, you will hear a fast sound when the time is right).
Is there yuri incest?
>>734988451Which one? Theres multiple. You mean the old hag one or the doll girl ones?
>>734990662I mean the one that crawls out of the well, dummy.
>>734988943I just started chapter 4 with the radiant filter I feel like the game will finally open up side content wise, but up until this point I’ve only ever had like 1 wraith enrage.
>>734961795Censored slop. Will not buy. I WILL pirate it, however.
i think the leer door tell is your flashlight flickering when you are standing infront of the door before you interact with it.
>>734969442The next Fatal Frame is going to be written by Ryukishi
So did anyone find extra bag for amulets?>>734991568I just close all doors cause I'm pussy kek
Pretty sure it does but does the remake have the spooky screensaver?
leer attacks need to be removed or at least give a real tell.
>>734992017Extra charm slots is a NG+ thing. You get one for completing the game, and have to purchase the last two rest for a huge amount of photo points. It's bullshit, especially when charm bags are mentioned within the tutorial.
>>734992553this is the only charm you will need the entire game anyway.
>>734992553What's the point of tutorial then?>>734992701True, but I also wanted to equip one which lets you reload films faster.
has anybody found any dolls that will look at you if you stare back long enough? that was a fun aspect in the other games where you got nothing out of it but it encouraged you to look up close on a bunch of objects.
>>734968113dead by daylight is bigger than silent hill and fatal frame, if they made a sequel it would outsell both
>>734985875>>734986508>>734987539>>734987842I think a lot of horror fans played them back in the day, but that was when "gaming" was still niche for this type of stuff. I picked up 3 around launch in 2005 for MSRP, and 1 and 2 for 25 dollars used in 2006. While it wasn't some special club back then, most of us are in are late 30's, early 40's or even 50's. Have an OG picture promo art. I have several saved (and transferred) over for PC's from over 20 years ago.
>>734965728>>734985492I actually didn't buy this remake for this very reason. 30 FPS (and keep in mind, it seems to dip way below that at times) for a horror game like that is completely unacceptable.
Why am I getting a boner? this is supposed to be a horror game...
>>734963640https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYT9wVwQ8A
>>734993647> 30's, early 40's or even 50'sDamn no wonder you uncs are so nostalgic about fixed camera angles.
>>734994704>can't see her nipples and pussyCensored trash
>>734994951fixed camera angles added a lot to the horror. i feel that fatal frame lost a lot of its sovl when it went over the shoulder. ghost encounters didn't because as panic inducing as they used to be since you can look whever you want now a lot easier. i still like the 4 and on but 1-3 were true horror gems on the ps2.
>>734961795When will a fucking nip draw a doujin of Mafuyu and Miku having ghostly incest sex at the abyss of the horizon of Manor of sleep at the end of FF3?
idk what to spend my points on next. i have everything in radiant filled out.
The demo was boring as fuck
how do i make this shot?
>>734995236If you have zooming function unlocked, then just zoom out. Otherwise I think you can make the shot through the door behind you, if it's unlocked that is.
does this only make reloading faster in exposure? the camera upgrades are really lame in this game.
>>734995387Yep.
>>734995320you actually need to zoom out for it for some reason. thanks, i was under the assumption that zooming was entirely optional but it looks like you may need it for some content.
Sandwhiching this game right RE9 and before Pragmata was a mistake.I want to play it but its gonna be a couple weeks
>>734991287Maybe it's because I'm playing on Battle difficulty but I had the sunken woman enrage on me twice and most other ghosts enraged at least once.
>>734968514>Americans indoctrinated by the media to equate sexual urges with violent actionsIt all makes sense now.
>>734995492Are two weekends not enough to finish RE9?
>>734966164>mini yukataI miss these outfits so much. That was my go to one in the PS2 version. These new outfits are fucking garbage. >no noes can’t show exposed legs and feet in a Christian game like this oneAt least they’ll give us some ugly ass outfits from Silent Hill Feminist. Hooray.
>>734980497>>734980660I'll play Fatal Frame 2 PS2 first. It looks interesting and the art style.
>>734995492re9 and fatal frame are both pretty short games. pragmata isnt until mid april so you have plenty of time to play both unless you don't play videogames.
I can fix her.
>>734995775I only started chapter 6.
>>734995921
>>734995672I beat it in like 14-15 hours first time through. I think it's easily possible.
>>734961795why koei tecmo games are so expensive? rarely go on sales and when do the discounts are vert low
>>7349959210ni0nsface
>>734996296You can buy the base edition on GMG for like 42 dollars. Not too bad for a new game.
I really miss these moments in survival horror games https://youtube.com/shorts/9Ot8KS3GXVw?si=ZOeCqoFBvlY96ghO
>>734995039>fixed camera angles added a lot to the horror.I'm half-and-half on that. The fixed angles could add to the horror because you can't easily see where you want to see and it's a bit like being watched by a silent observer. But 3rd person over the shoulder can be scary too because you have to manually turn the camera to see in the corners which can add a few seconds of stress in a new area. Like with fixed angles you can assume they are showing you what you need to see, but when you control the camera you could easily be looking in the wrong direction as something spawns in to fuck you up. Plus with the dark fog and short torchlight staring straight ahead you see all sorts of strange figure like shapes where with a mostly top down camera you're just looking at the ground.
>>734995775>>734995492What is Pragmata? I haven't played the demo yet, I just know it has a cute little girl and a guy that looks like the guy from Vanquish.
>>734995154focus
I’m getting my physical PS5 copy tomorrow. Should I go offline and play unpatched, or just download the patch? I thought the original was too easy. I’m really considering just playing the pre-nerf version, as was originally intended
Just opened Mayu's cell in chapter 5. I love when this game feels like Fatal Frame and I like the expanded exploration and side content, but I don't think I care for any concession that makes this game feel "modern". A good example are the yellow paint tier hiding spots that you start beelining to once the Kusabi starts showing up. Every time I see one it's like "oh no, the one-shot big bad's gonna spawn either now or on the way back, and I'm fucking right half the time. Shit like that is really grating on my nerves, but when it's just Fatal Frame it's as fun as ever.
Is this a good game to start with to get into the franchise? Or should I emulate the original instead? I'm afraid it's too dated and not in the good way like RE games were since I keep hearing bad things about FF1 and 2.
>>734999207Game was fun on battle difficulty pre-patch. The first 3 hours are extremely hard but you'll eventually get much stronger, even if you don't folow the "build" that so many talk about.Just upgrade focal points a bit and things will be super easy
>>734999323FF1 is surprisingly good for its age. Didn't feel dated at all to me.FF2R is a good starting point too imo
>>734999335Yeah, I think I’m just going to play unpatched. Not like I can’t just update like a bitch if I get my shit pushed in too hard.
>>734999323You've got this some kind of twisted, the PS2 entries are enduring classics. Even the first one, which is a bit jank and dated, still stands as one of the more challenging survival horror games of the golden age. If you can handle a game like Code Veronica or RE0, you can sure as shit take on the PS2 era Fatal Frames. As for starting with the remake, there's a demo and I would say it's at least better to start with than Mask or Maiden. You should play the earlier games if you can though.
>>734995387Thats always the case in Fatal Frame games. Just put everything in damage first just like in 90% of survival horror games with upgrade systems.
>>734999335I wouldn't call it extremely hard but the enemies were definitely damage sponges. You also aren't expected to hoard your best film anymore.
>>734999578Nah, upgrade focal points and unlock zoom first in this one. More focal points = more points that take damage, and zoom just lets you hit some of those twin doll fucks. Max focal points basically makes Fatal Frames feel like they should.
>>734999836The first hour of this game reminds me of playing as Kei in 3, but once you get a bit into chapter 2 and upgrade the camera a few times, it starts feeling more like you're an actual FF protag.
>>734999896Yeah, Focal Points is the quintessential damage upgrade. You do the same thing in Fatal Frame 3 with the male characters shitty camera that starts with only 2 focal points.
>>735000056I wish they were more clear that focal points were the damage upgrade but thankfully the respecc beads are really cheap.
Why is Mayu such a manipulative bitch? How much of a siscon is she?
>>735000252Yes.
How long before Radiant gets nerfed?
>>735000373I need around 2-3 days to finish the game. So in 4 days.
Nerf after 1 day is the most retarded shit I've ever seen.
>>735000373Koei Tecmo usually takes in between games to nerf broken good mechanics.
>>735000252[Spoiler] Didn't she fall on purpose as a kid to force Mio to take care of her forever and never leave her? [/spoiler]
>>734999375>>734999496I meant more in comparison to the actual OG REs (1 2 3), but that does sound reassuring. I'll give this a ago and if I enjoy it I'll emulate 1 and 2 as well. Thanks.
>>734999323If you like Remake, you will like the original trilogy too.
This is a spooky ghost. Please be nice to her.
>>734979614Companies saw Capcom with the remakes and wanna join too. Even Konami obviously wants sh1 and sh3 remakes next
>>735000494>3Code Veronica is RE3, Sony's just a little bitch about naming things.
ayy lmao
>wants to grab item>Grabs mayus hand insteadWho the fuck designed this
Who is more sister horny, Sae or Mayu?
>>735000775I just finished a replay of A Link to the Past not long ago and I determined that I hate mapping multiple primary features to a single button. This shit you're describing is a great example.
>>735000826Mayu and Mio simp for their manly cousin though
>>735000857Doesn't she ignore him the entire way of FF3 because of her guilt
>>735000857>manlyThen why is his camera so wimpy?
>>735000857Nah the incest necrophilia weirdo of the franchise is Miku. Instead of raising her own incest abomination she chooses to try and fuck her dead brother once again. Her kid ends up being an underage camwhore because she lacks a proper mother.Fatal Frame 5 really fucked Miku's plot.
>>735001426she should have stayed with Reika, like that ending imply in FF3
>>735001426I'm almost certain that 5 was plotted the way it was for dramatic shock value and nothing more.
>>735001426Nah, incest is the director's kink. Fatal Frame has so much incest, same as Kagero/Deception games it is hard not to draw that conclusion.
>>735001426>>735001627>>735001883The franchise really got weird like some weird sexy kink fever dream after 2/3.
>>7350014265 ruined miku's character and the plot of 3 to a degree but i think yuri's plot in 5 was overall very well done.
>>734966073Real question, these bikinis look like shit and ruin the vibe of the game, why is this your hill to die on?
>>734985414Well boy do I have news for you
>>735002112Shitposting.
>>735002112it was a silly unlock when survival horror unlocks were good and had a lot of variety in costumes.
>>734993726>he says posting images from a game that also runs at 30fps
>>734962269>tell me you were born post 9/11 without actually telling me
What’s so good about the radiant filter, does it do a shit ton of damage? I mainly just use it to wipe out the aggression state then go back to normal filter…
How is 5 on SteamDeck?
>>735002418That shit one-shots.
>>735002418Shit ton of damage and a charge-up special attack that does even more damage. Downside is, is that it takes longer to reload film. Using the radiant filter and Type-00 film I managed to one-hit KO the final boss.
>>734961795its fine, im enjoying it, better than the garbage that was FF5they nerfed the auto lock on but i wish it was completely gonetheres literally zero reason to make the ghost tanky when its on rage mode, FF was always plagued with nonsensical game design choices that adds nothing to the gamealso i wish they tone down the scripted insta kill chase sequence, its just not scary at all and annoying, its something from ps2 era that aged like milk
>>735002418you can 1 shot a good chunk of the enemy roster with a full focus fatal frame even with type 14 film. it's honestly the only filter worth using after you unlock it. just make sure to upgrade its charm to +5 to get max damage. I also never really used the charge in fights since most enemies die in a few hits anyway.
>>735002567>insta kill chase sequence, its just not scary at all and annoying, its something from ps2 era that aged like milkthe ps2 did them better since if you got touched it would consume a stone mirror and you could still get away. in this remake you are just dead regardless.
>>735002597I've been going hard on auto-charge since I kinda hate how slow reloads are and Radiant makes that even worse. It's a gameplay feel thing. I could shift to its damage charm I guess.
Consider this gato
>>735002720meow
>>735002671type 14s typically gives you enough time to get consecutive fatal frames in time against most enemies in the game. My limited experience with type 61s would 1 shot a lot of enemies without even needing to wait for a fatal frame as long as you get enough focal points in, this is doable with other films too but it's a bit trickier to do. also they made getting fatal frames incredibly easy in this game, a lot of enemies will still have active frames for a good 2-3 seconds after you dodge letting you actively punish them if you are caught with bad reloads. overall the extra damage probably doesnt matter because of how easy they made the game. I am also only playing on normal but I hear the game is just as easy on battle now. also I'm playing on mouse and keyboard and not using the lockon at all, idk how generous the lock on is when it comes to maximizing focal points but with mouse aim its been incredibly easy.
>>734995921>>734996056Aww, she's smiling.
>>735002863>anon why are you pretending to be offline on steam?
i don't get it, what made fatal frame appeals more to women?
Ha ha, time for the infinite rocket launcher.
>>735001883>horror story has incestShocking
>>735003359More like maximum difficulty time, ama rite?
>censored garbage floppedgood, I'll stick to the original
>>735002418Its the game's own Super Shotgun. Get close to the ghosts face, charge up the shot and you end up taking 80-100% HP away in a single shot.
>>735003315Women love horror and cute designs
You think it's possible to make fixed cameras mod? The trilogy was so good at that
How long is 2 remake? I found 5 to be way longer than it should have been and I haven't played 4 yet cause I wanted to play this one cause it's new.
>>735003315Horror is a gender neutral genre. And Fatal Frame plots are almost like detective mysteries so that also appeals to women. Women are in majority audience with True Crime and serial killer documentary genres.Also if you look at any Fatal Frame 5's concept art its pretty obvious the artist is a woman who graduated from a clothing design school. She draws the concept art like she draws industry clothing sketches.
>>735004201About as long as original. 10-12 hours depending how much time you spend exploring sidequest areas and hunting twin dolls.
>>734964539>buying japslop>ever
>>735004201Can confirm it's about as long as the original, 10 hours or so if you ignore most of the story sidequests
>>735004201Taking my time and backtracking to areas I really shouldn't have, it took me 14hrs.
>>734966240I don't either and I don't use stuff like that in my games because I can't take it seriously but I am against removing it and think CERO is gay as fuck these days
>>735004741>>735004887>>735004926Yeah that's a pretty nice length. Horror games should always focus on replayability and go the shorter route. Thanks anons.
>>734961795Two quick questions.1. Which do I play first: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse or Maiden of Black Water?2. Is it possible to enjoy them for gameplay/story or do people play solely for cute girls?
>>735005050If its story chronology you're worried about, then you have to start playing from the very first game. Old game protagonists do cameos or become side characters in sequels all the time. First game protagonist is a playable character in 3 and NPC in 5.If you want Fatal Frame games with minimal references to other games, play 2 or 4.
>>735005346I thought the two games on Steam were remakes/remasters of the first two games. Alright then, I'll get the PS2 ones now when Myrient is still up.Ah, but the one just released is a remake of 2. 1 and 3 are not on PC. Why can't they release them in order?
Holy fuckthat's creepy
>>735005998Same reason why they remade 2 instead of 1 and 3 (SM doesn't count). Because it sold most copies.
>>735005998Nta but just like sh2 and re2 is because they were popularThat said you can play ff2 first, only one character cameo appears but the twist works playing ff1>2 or ff2>1 (it's like superman/clark kent)FF3 though closes ff1/2 stories, you can only play that one after 1 and 2
>>735005050The thing I enjoy most about Fatal Frame are the atmosphere and the combat, story is also pretty good
>>735006032Thats a reference to the movie Pulse: https://youtu.be/4aKY-DTPPqw?si=r__SLQuFbhJEO7ma
>>735006113>re2>popularI don't think I'd say RE2 is more popular than 1. Them going for 2 is obviously because technically speaking a 1 remake already exists.
>>735006032Ah, the Pillars from the 3.Also i think Mayu and Sae both need correction.
>>734964539Why did this game do so badly?
kid ghost!
>>735007115because its fatal frame
>>735007115Did about the same as Fatal Frame 4 and 5 steam releases.
>>735007115because its woke
>the most normal MC in FF was Erika in 3 cause she managed to move on with her life unlike Miku who wanted to get fucked by her ghost brother
>>734961795>Why is /v/ wrong about everything ?They're not. The game is woke and they turned the girls into female trannies by dressing them in boxers instead of panties. I won't be buying this shit.
>>734972269 >>734972287 >>734972385 >>734972567 >>734972041I decided to buy it, and with a few tweaks (disabled quest tracker, no film grain, KB+M button prompts), its passable. I like how it opens up later, but the idea of going stealth for wandering ghosts its such a stupid idea. I'm on chapter 3.
>>735007115go woke go broke
Really enjoying the game just at the start of chapter 6. Other than muh immersion, I have no idea why they decided to hide the points display by default. Having the points display makes the fatal frame system much more intuitive to new players to understand that they’re attacking enemies effectively. Really liking how the side stories involve specters and barring a quick quest tracker pop up they feel slightly radiant especially if you’re just exploring a lot and continuing the main story when it feels like all that’s left like I have. Enjoyed it enough I ordered a switch 2 copy to check it out on that system as well. See what the gyro aiming is all about.
>>735007115Two more weeks and it will definitely flop. Aaannnyyy day now yup
>>734961795Contrarians have shit taste and went everything to fail for pure schadenfreude. If the game succeeds then they ramble on something about buzzwords like the mythical "normies". If it fails, they chant about their dogmas like woke. That one anon before was correct. They really are the same shit as the wokeis
is there any new content? i played the original last year so i'm not planning on buying if all it has is better graphics
>>734968113>Fatal Frame is basically the third biggest horror franchise historicallyYou are absolutely delusional if you think that
>>734986553>blindedRapidly tap Square to move fast without making sound. Trivializes all of her fights.
>>734966073consdiering plummeting birth rates in developed nations it seems that people are pathologically afraid of sex and nudity
>>734969676>appeal to irrelevancywhy do you care that people care? you are not even trying to argue in good faithit was there in the game, what reason is there to remove it? how in the hell is a remake allowed to have LESS content than the original? that doesn't make any senseespecially considering that a remake effectively replaces the original since it's not available on main storefronts
>>735012871>how in the hell is a remake allowed to have LESS content than the original?A sentence so stupid that it exposes both the fact you have not played this game (or you would know it has added a ton more content) and the fact you are a degenerate who thinks looking up the skirts of little girls is something game developers care about and would want you to do.
>>735012736I just think sex is nasty that is all
>>735009574>but the idea of going stealth for wandering ghostsYou don't have to if you don't want to. Stealth is mandatory only for Kusabi and Sae encounters.
>>735012076no one? is there literally not a single player in this thread lol?
>>735013312>it exposes nothing because it's a generic statement valid for virtually all modern remakes?>and the fact you are a degenerate cute projection>who thinks looking up the skirtsit's not what I think or do and that's irrelevant to the discussion, it's just an outfit, developers spend time to put in the game regardless of your sexual fantasies and nobody pointed a gun to their heads and said "you must add this costume or else"you also conveniently avoided addressing why do you care that people care because again you are not even trying to argue in good faith, since when having LESS is better than having MORE
>>735013843theres lot of new content, you asked a dumb question that requires a long answer
>>735014349>since when having LESS is better than having MOREBut the remake does have more outfits. Nobody but false-flagging trannies are whining about "censorship" because this is a remake of a game that still had relatively modest and boring outfit options. It was in the 3rd game where things started getting raunchier.
>>735013843People already addressed that early in the thread: >>734972287Combat had major changes, some areas and events are remixed, like Kusabi chasing you more often and outside of the manor.
>>735014530let's do it like if you were a 5 year old or something>game now has X content which is good/fine/whatever>but it could (and should) have X+1 which is even betterdo you realise what less and more mean?>b-b-bbut that specific X+1 is bad/degenerate/nobody cares about itagain, appeal to irrelevancy, it doesn't matter how you or I perceieve it as, the only objective truth is that extra things included in the original are for some reason not present in the future reiteration that effectively replaces it, and noice how not even once did I mention censorship or whateverwon't address the rest of the shrieking schizobbable about trannies or whatever, you are clearly in no position to engage with anything rationally so I'm effectively wasting my time here
>>735014965>do you realise what less and more mean?Do you realize what a fucking remake is? Why are you expecting a Project Zero 2 remake to turn into DOA beach volleyball game?>Nooo the game is bad because this horror franchise didn't turn into the next Dwarf fortress with space sim on top! Also when I started the game I expected my doorbell to ring and a bag of cocaine to appear beneath my feet when I opened the door, where the fuck is it Koei, what a shit game.Fuck off with your retarded shit.
>>735015083Man it's not often you see strawmanning this blatant. You're just flat out making shit up to argue against that anon.
>>735014530>a whole 5 DLC costumesvs>14 unlockable costumes >>734966164Kill yourself KT shill
>>735015083>Do you realize what a fucking remake is?yeah, in my words it's a reiteration of something that was done previously which can be more or less similar to the original, can range from being a complete re-imagination of the original or barely differentiating itself from an updated portnotice how literally nobody said this>I started the game I expected my doorbell to ring and a bag of cocaine to appear beneath my feet when I opened the door, where the fuck is it Koeiso your impotent rage and lashing out is even more nonsensical, I'm merely questioning why original content that was already there didn't make it into the current reiteration of the the product, doesn't sound that controversial to mehow much are you paid per post?
I think ghosts also should have unlockable costumes.
>>734961795lmao censorcuck
>>735002112>appeal to trivialityyawn. If it doesn't matter, why was it removed?
Game's fun.https://files.catbox.moe/x9wyt3.png
>gameplay mechanics are canonBASED
>>735014658Hmm, guess I'll grab it when it goes on sale and my memories of the original fade more.
Ghosts fear you more than you fear them.
>that one female ghost that literally throws hands at you>if it leers you and then knocks you down, the hands start chocking you while she stands at a distance and looks down on youThis game's got some kino shit.
>>735002112>Real question>Me, a real fan, consider the original series to have models made by incompetents >Ya'll listen up real quick, real question, yous really gon die on dis here hill goonsville? Psssh
>>734961795Just finished it and hated it. Every new mechanic just sucked. The aggravation makes encounter last way too long and why lock the special attacks behind a stamina bar that can very easily get instantly drained by leer attacks? Also the run speed was fine in the OG because of the fixed camera but just doesn't work for being third person. It's too damn slow here especially when you have to crawl which was never even a mechanic before now. This franchise just feels clunky and awkward outside the original trilogy.
I started chapter 8. Am I close to the end?
>>735021756Chapter 8 can be long, especially if you do side stories, but after that is the final chapter
>>735018986Game needs better death scenes. I'm not talking about gore. But some monsters should have something unique.
>>734977357>spending hundreds on PS2 copiesAre they expensive now? I own FF3, I think I paid like 35 euros for it in 2007.
All fucking ghosts must fucking hang
>>734961795fatal frame 2 lost to nortubel
>>735004372Hisoka sexAlso Rei sex
>>735021494I'm not done with it but I'm leaning toward these sentiments. Reminds me of 3 in that way - everything fundamental is great, but everything experimental is hit and miss. I don't mind updating the camera's functions in theory but it kinda feels overdone. It didn't matter if previous games couldn't have features like focus and zoom because they were gameplay mechanics first. I do think it's an improvement from 2's combat but really just that, and that's to say nothing of hiding from the Kusabi which I'm already tired of in chapter 5.
>>735021494I suspected as much as someone who only played the demo, simple is best and original trilogy still plays great , I miss the camera angles, it was so good in FF2
Played the demo and then went and played like 15 minutes of my OG FF2 savefile. It's funny how the og game is still just better overall. The camera angles are a deal breaker for me. Fuck zoomers and fuck third person over the shoulder bullshit.
>>734961795/v/ just cries and shits about everything and plays nothing so their "opinions" have no correlation with reality.
>>735026687>plays nothingnobody played this remake bro
>>735026575The original trilogy still looks great, could have been lazy and just remaster them
>>735026007>>735026575I think people on the fence should at least pirate this one, but I'm like halfway through it and by all means hold on to your original copies. Mine's not going anywhere.
>>735026575Many of the changes here makes sense when you realize this is based on the awful Wii remake from 2012.If you like the worst Fatal Frame games in the franchise (4 and 5), then this remake is for (You).
>>735027618It's funny that I'm sitting here playing this remake before I ever touched that one. I happened to know a guy who had a physical copy of 4 so I got to play that one, but never 2's first remake.
>>735007115>remake of a niche Japanese horror game for niche audiences>censor it, pissing off the niche audienceWho could possibly have seen this coming?
>>735026575Funny thing is I have a friend pushing 40 that says that the over the shoulder camera angles are good. The old games were trash (he played and enjoyed them back then but now he says they were always trash). The old games suck, the remakes are better. Resident Evil got good when it went over the shoulder, etc etc. Largely unrelated but he loves the FFVII remakes as well, hates the OGHe made it to chapter 4 and has already dropped this game, so that's a powerful indicator to me how much it dropped the ball. Even he didn't like it
>>735028349I like EVERYTHING Fatal Frame so I like this remake, but it's not on par with the PS2 trilogy. Better than Mask and Maiden, yes. The best entry this side of 3, I suppose. But 2001-2006 still reigns supreme.
>/v/ hates itWelp. I'm enjoying it so far, at chapter 6 now. Feels good to play with a mouse and keyboard, I already like it for that.
