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THIS IS A THREAD FOR TALKING ABOUT THE VIDEO GAME "MEWGENICS" AND NOTHING ELSE
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Eye worm is digusting
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kill that cat
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>>734972220
show
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Man, the moon has such good music
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having money troubles?
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Tuff is a great song
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>>734972391
Better than Humanicide that's for sure
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>>734972290
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>>734972459
Humanicide sounds like a great song that was intentionally janked to sound like shit. Hitler isn't allowed to have a banging track
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>>734972368
I have never had money troubles in this game
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>>734972391
Agreed, people shitting on Act 3 songs don't know what they are talking about
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dice boys
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>>734972635
I love this fat fuck
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>>734972634
It's cause the fight itself is shit
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>>734972701
I simply wish he weren't easier than a miniboss or hard route encounter or regular encounter.
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>>734972754
Agreed, Marhsmallow felt more like an act boss than him
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This games soundtrack clearly has hasbin hotel influence on some songs which is disappointing desu.
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>psychic
>instakill for 14 mana
>requires line of sight

>druid
>instakill for 13 mana (down to 6 with a passive that halves music mana costs cuz the instakill is a song)
>doesn't require line of sight
um balance department doko
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>>734972847
>Hazbin Hotel invented jazzy musical songs
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>>734972847
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>>734972754
Desert bosses ARE all mi ibosses, he had to ake it easy to make up for the anti-healing mechanic. Crater/bunker are a significant jump in difficulty to make up for it.
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>>734972884
>and inflicts stun
>buffed version cranks damage to 25
become entropy is the clear winner and is well worth the extra cost
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>>734972884
Psychic one is targeted, druid one is random
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>>734972884
psychic is an insta-kill and it stuns bosses
druid is a single kill that takes time to activate and inflicts madness on bosses which means nothing on them
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>>734972912
>character themed musicals
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>>734973015
you fight more mobs than bosses
>>734973024
druid is so fucking spammable and cheap targeting does not matter

>>734973068
>single kill that takes time to activate
huh??? it's instant
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>>734973070
>hazbin hotel invented musicals
You're giving off extreme boss baby vibes, like the people who think all jazz is anime
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>>734972847
i bet you dont even know who cab calloway is
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>>734973125
>you fight more mobs than bosses
It's still better because the stun is guaranteed. It requires line of sight (or omniscience) because otherwise it'd be imba as fuck.
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>soundtrack is hasbin hotel influenced
> internet fan culture encourages shipping and crossover jokes Deltarune fans slobber over

This is why this games fandom is in a sorry state.
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>>734972847
bossbaby.jpg
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>people say this game isn't cute
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>>734972109
>Muh circle jerk thread isn't jerking my circle hard enough
You lost, troon
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The high point for me was and still is the very first Throbbing Domain run.
>Satisfaction of finally unlocking the area after 3 house bosses
>Throbbing King's cutscene using your own cat
>Nervousness of going into a completely new area that took a decent amount of effort to unlock with only 3 cats
>The humming from Sweet Delicious as the two pre-boss fights actually rough me up quite a lot
>The surprise of seeing Sweet Delicious turn into an entirely new track for the boss fight
>The king himself, which turned into a battle of attrition that I had to really struggle for because my highest damage-dealing cat was a low speed, low constitution hunter that was removed from the fight before it could even move, and barely making it out
Throbbing Domain runs are still some of my favorite runs. The atmosphere there is so fucking good.
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>>734973679
i didn't lose, i save scummed :^)
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>>734973725
You didn't beat the TOS
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>>734973125
first turn you see a problematic elite among 5 other enemies, I much rather use my targeted instakill that I can most likely get in line of sight than a random instakill. the guaranteed stun is also great on bosses. of course, the druid one is still a great spell, especially if you get it for 50% of the mana
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>>734973507
This meme would work better on twitter
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>>734972109
How can I talk about this game when literal Hitler is in it? Impossible.
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>>734972459
>>734972548
Humanicide is great, why do you dislike it?
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EXHIBIT A
EXHIBIT B
EXHIBIT D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K
ALL THE WAY TO Z
FOR ZEBRAAAAS
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>amoeba finally gets to zaratana
>can't fucking do the piercing killing blow because it's actually one tile and I keep misclicking
>even the sprite is glitched
aaaaaAAAAAAAAAA
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>>734974354
the german parts sounds forced in and disjointed
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>>734972109
When does breeding actually become a thing? I'm only 8 hours in and having fun just sending strays through the meat grinder, but I've never been much for breeding mechanics and seeing some of the shit in these threads is intimidating.
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Lol
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>>734974376
middle click for tactical view to see positions better
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>>734974354
It's discordant to a fault, like down with the devil but cranked to 10.
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>>734973507
>>soundtrack is hasbin hotel influenced
can someone who is fluent in schizobabble explain what he meant by this?
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Do you need to do all areas with 4 collarless, or just the final bosses of each act? Been stuck just short of 100% completion and wondering if I need to do the Jurassic, Moon and Graveyard 4 Collarless even though I've done The Infinite, the Rift and Throbbing King with 4 collarless.
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>>734974469
you can start "easily" getting mutants in act 2 via the crater path and activating the shimmer event when you reach the meteor there
once you have some mutated freaks you can throw them in a room together and start breeding
you can also get mutation furniture from jack eventually, or as a rare furniture reward from the bunker route, which has a chance to give kitties in a room random mutations
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>>734974601
>just the final bosses of each act
yes
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>>734974601
all areas
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huh, you can send strays that have defended your house straight to frank, with no adventure. I guess that's another way to farm them for frank once you unlock the feature to call the bosses back
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So, I'm on my way to the moon, and Crater is done.
If I beat it does the game automatically unlock act 3 and become harder forever?
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>>734974652
I've beat the all the areas with at least 1, but looking at that image I only need to beat the final areas with 4 for the copycat items which I've already done.
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>>734974726
No
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>>734974380
Ridiculon said that they first came up with the theme & lyrics in English, and then added the german bits after the future started to come together (guessing at first it didn't have the nazis and was just the Wall-E parody)
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>>734974739
yeah i misread the post at first. i was stuck at 99% for a while too and i got over that hump by doing home defense stuff on higher difficulties
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>>734974469
getting good mutations is a bit harder but getting your cats to 7s doesn't require much work. I began doing it once I unlocked another room (around the start of act 2 for me)
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does bulletproof vest stop injuries from skills?
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uhhhh i assume 100% the game requires you to beat every route on impossible mode?
with every class?
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>>734972884
It's also a song so mouthless mutants (one of the most popular mutations for long breeding sessions) can't use it
I think 1 mana more than covers the difference
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>>734975006
it doesn't because that's how you get 107%
you hit 100% before you do everything in the game
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>>734974879
haven't tried that combo but it should work
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So after beating Tina II the next house boss for me was Pyrophina, and after her now - Zaratana. Is my save fucked and I can now never move on past the Labs?
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>>734975079
she'll turn up eventually
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>>734973719
Throbbing Domain is kino, especially the first time. It's a major difficulty bump compared to the rest of act 1, and you're always at a risk of snowballing into failure so you're almost certainly going to feel a bit uneasy on your first few passes through. Very reminiscent of the feeling you get when you scuff your way through True Last Bosses in arcade games. Game designers should take note.

I like aesthetics of The Rift and Chaos but it's much more tame in comparison, almost feels like a victory lap more than a serious challenge. At least The Infinite is appropriately oppressive, but at that point you should already know how to play the game well.
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>>734975061
It's 109 if you do both collars
he's never going to stop seething about that
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>>734974591
Listen to hell is forever it’s literally musical core slop wave like some of the more subpar mewgenics songs.
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Thrill of the hunt doesn't work with DNA multiplier, right?
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is doing bubble boy and party detonator at the same time a stupid idea
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>>734975393
Both of those challenges are meant to be played with ranged units so no.
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>>734974739
You get to like 97% for beating the game on normal and then like, 1% extra per difficulty clear including house bosses.
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>>734972109
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Seems like I got all the cat sink upgrades before finishing chapter 2. Feels like there should be more to unlock for your house or shit like that.
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this is the cutest mutation room cat yet i wish i could frame her
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>>734975561
Edmund will 100% make a Lost cat class that has 1hp capped
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>>734975393
infinite bouncing doesn't destroy your corpse, so yes. unless you have a really busted team that can clear every enemy, bosses included, before they get close to you
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wait you can get repeat furniture? that's kind of ass
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>>734975748
thats basically what singleton disorder does
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I’m going to do a collarless only run of Throbbing King.
The question is… do I do a hard mode run or not…
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>>734975785
Yeah, it's probably the meta because most stuff bigger than a single tile is pure ass.

Not talking about you Rare Baphomet Statue I love you.
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>>734975760
i'm a psychopath so i'm going to do it
whilst i'm doing it i'll bring along a deadweight princess cat with a neverstone
clown makeup and survival hat is a 75% chance to ambush, that should probably cover things
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>end of The End
>great team, should be all set
>literally the last event node
>my roided up butcher gets the 'dae le heckin amigara fault???' event
>think, whatever, last time I got this one they just showed back up in the boss with some good mutations
>enter boss
>they're there but an enemy
>their move is turn 2, cat before them can't possibly deal enough damage to kill them
>the mutations mean they just walk into the middle of my team and do the spin to win basic attack, critting and killing 2/3 of my remaining cats
EDMUND MCMILLAN YOU LITTLE FUCKER
I know I'm just salty but god fucking damn some of the events are actual poopoo dogwater
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>meat cube going fine, deep in the caves
>the fighter holding it gets two shot
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are there any notable act1-2 unlocks a newer player should try to rush?
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>>734975859
Leather Jacket is goated for bubble boy.

Don't know how fishhook interacts with it.
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>>734975760
>infinite bouncing doesn't destroy your corpse
it does. unless you get lucky and hit the cap the game has on consecutive bounces to prevent softlocks from infinite loops
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I did the guillotina head quest and you can still sacrifice cats at that meat altar it seems, what's that for?
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>game implies dodge stacks additively, 50% + 50% shows 100% dodge
>internally it still tracks each roll, so it's 75% dodge
listen you lying motherfucker, if I have 200% dodge I should be invincible
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>>734975987
boosts your other cats stats
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we need a fatfuck class that takes up 4 tiles
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>helmet that gives you 15% to refresh your attack, movement and items
>beard that doubles the effect of that equipment slot
>almost never triggers
30% more like 10%, what the fuck
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>>734976101
Your luck sir?
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still in chapter 2, to those who are more advanced, what do you think the game is missing? like what do you expect people to mod first?
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sweet delicious is my favorite song
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>>734974469
It only becomes strong when you get to the level that has the "shimmer" weather effect and you can start farming mutations.
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>>734976101
I'm convinced the probability calculation is fucked in some way, even with average or above luck there's a lot of shit that doesn't trigger nearly as often as it should, odds wise. Like how confusion can just gigaruin a cats usability, yet when you try and use it on enemies it barely ever triggers.
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>>734976185
house breeding QoL and automation
i have 0 complaints about the actual SRPG gameplay, all my issues are with the house
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>use squirrel form
>Johnny gets surrounded by so many squirrels he and his cultists can't do jackshit
I even rolled a disorder that is pure aids on a support class like druid because it gives poison on the basic attack and yet it's a nothingburger because I'm using him for squirrels and with empty vessel that can be more or less ignored
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>>734972847
nigger if anything the soundtrack sounds like The Aristocats
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>>734972847
>You're right
And the replies still shit on you. Fuck /v/
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>>734976185
Playing with kitties, animations
A highlighter item
>highlight every cat aged x, highlight cats with x amt of mutations, highlight cats with CON no less than x, et cetera
Guillotina sex
Adding more Isaac items
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>>734976185
You cant tell item sets until you equip them they should tell you if they belong to any it would help A LOT
And thats already a mod btw
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>>734975950
Most of the good unlocks are from act 3. The only thing I'd suggest is to try and do house bosses when they appear because they are preconditions for unlocking the final area of the game, so you won't have to tediously pass days while making sure retired cats stay alive later on.
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>>734972847
>>734976363
The soundtrack is clearly influenced by boss baby, gives me lots of boss baby vibes
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>>734976257
People don't realize this, but it's not just luck. It's the luck delta between the assailant and the target. An enemy with 999 luck hitting a target with 999 luck is the same as 0/0.
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>>734976363
>knowing what hasbin hotel sounds like to begin with
back to tumbleddit
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>>734976460
huh? enemies have luck too???
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Most Goated Druid I ever had. Never sung a damn song in his life. Never used Squirrel Squad either.

Ovrprepped for Act 2 on Crazy and with his low Speed most fights he didn't even get a turn (even the Thief who I considered the weak link who went first managed to single handedly clear the first Chaos level).

Brought the Box and found a second Box so was getting good loot (funnily enough Chaos domain only has 2 unique loots so I got 5 copies of one). Got Book of Belial from core which had some honestly stupid synergy with his set.

Basically Elk Form into Wolf Form. Gains 10 Speed and some other stats as well as trample (he had jump anyway). Elk Form becomes Prance, 3 mana (2 at plus) to refresh movement ability. Wolf Form gives the 2 hit basic attack. Running Jab gives an attack every movement. Book of Belial gives +3 damage every kill (+6 considering wolf form). A bazillion Stevens to mutilate with prance running jabs gives a bazillion charges to book.

Didn't even reach the end of the first chorus of bolt of lightning.

Might breed wolf form it seems to have some benefits. Squirrel Squad is good too. Dunno how to feel about Elk Form without a second transformation.
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>>734976185
>Cat management via lists and such.
It's QoL so obviously they've already stated they're against it but when you're actually trying to deeply engage with breeding, mutations etc. it becomes a fucking nightmare.
>Full descriptions, like Isaac has had for ages now.
It's a typical Ed-ism but personally I don't find it amusing having a run or cat ruined because he thought it would be an epic haha xD trole to leave important information out of a tooltip or description.
>Projection of different skills
It's weird this was missed at all, but being able to select a skill to prieview in the range thing for when you move that's not just your basic attack would be extremely useful.
>Event probabilities
This is definitely a "removing the magic" thing but I don't give a fuck. I've got ADHD and a fucking horrid memory, there's not a chance in hell I'm remembering which random event actually has a worse outcome if you select your best stat, or which ones have mild results if you pick one stat but can nuke your cat if you choose a different one, etc.
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>>734976541
yes and necro has an entire archetype for lowering it
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>>734975971
I've had multiple cats gets downed during the challenge and it never killed their corpses (unless they're infested or whatever)
I mean the infinite bounce that downs them btw after being downed they still bounced a ton of times and the corpse health remained at 2 or 3. I assume if another different infinite bounce happens to the already downed cat it can kill.
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>>734976541
Yes, this is why there's some spells, passives, and items that decrease enemy luck.
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>hasbeen hotel bluds seething that their goofy ahhhh diddyblud show got called out
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>>734976541
Yeah, it's one of the hover stats you can see
I have never really seen a high luck enemy though
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>>734976580
>>Cat management via lists and such.
steakman already said he was kind of opposed to this because it goes against the cat hoarding theme, but might happen *eventually*
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>>734976185
>what do you think the game is missing?
Daily challenge, where everyone is assigned a randomly pre-generated team of cats and equipment. Would be a fun way to tell posers whining about muh rng apart from people who actually understand how to play the game.

I also think some kind of puzzle scenario mode would be a fun addition, where you're tasked with beating some carefully designed level and permutation of enemies against all odds (with randomness removed or made visible as a queue of rolls, so it becomes a purely deterministic puzzle).
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>>734976185
Sandbox mode for cat breeding. My sister loves the breeding aspect but doesn't care for the combat.
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>>734976185
The biggest problem is definitely the house UI.

Dealing with large volumes of cats is tiring. It's basically impossible to track mutations because they happen at the end of the sequence and if you speed up (which you pretty much have to) you can't even see who mutated, and it doesn't even state the mutation on the screen. Needs an "event recap" tab.

The repeating cutscenes are annoying after a while and ALWAYS INTERRUPT THE GOOD SONGS.

Item sorting is kinda ass because the game doesn't want to . I am convinced the "sort by time" setting is broken. Sorting my item type is the only useful one for the most part. Sorting by sets is sometimes viable with ABC, but often sets aren't named like that and the game wants to be coy about them so it can't be a setting (even if we consider one potential set the "Primary" set. It can be hard to see equip slots at high storage volume and I can't be the only one who finds them incredibly unintuitive - hat necklace and glasses. Some colour coding would be really useful here.

>>734976669
He'll bend, modders will probably get there first.
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>>734976390
Tyler doesn't believe in any qol with cat management because he is retarded and wants to sacrifice fun for "Le chaotic crazy cat house!!!"
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>>734976802
We have that it's called resummon guillotina 1 normal mode 3 days before running out of food.
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Never had a good Necromancer, please enlighten me
Feels like I need full perfect items to make any use out of them, Mage and Tinkerer literally feel more consistent because they maybe need a single item to do some bullshit
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>>734976938
>The repeating cutscenes are annoying after a while and ALWAYS INTERRUPT THE GOOD SONGS.
I swear if I have to see a single frame of the fucking poopoo peepee basement man's reddit ass dialogue again I'm going to climb through the screen and feed him his own fucking arms.
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can someone explain the callus meta to me
i saw someone a few threads ago with a callus with like 800 shield since curse items never break you can just reuse it again
he had a tail mutation to unequip and re equip items, is that needed?
or can i just put it on a cat and then it gets added to my inventory like the other items before i go home? or do i NEED the ability to remove cursed items, manually remove it myself so it's in the inventory before going home?
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>>734976185
I don't like the house radio music restarting if you check the shop. Feels like it should just pause, play the shop music while you're there, and then continue the radio track.
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>transmitter antenna quest
>already been having a terrible time as is, random spells just keep fucking me over
>think i can kill the mech suit, i don't because my spell rolls were atrocious and my butcher was WAY out of range
>oh it's okay i can just take the 50 damage
>nuke instantly destroys cats in range
tyler i swear to god i've got a fucking migraine now because of you
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>>734976185
I don't mind some bosses only having flavor text but if you already have 3 lines of explaining what the this regular enemy does seems odd to emit the part where they also counter your attacks or block attacks from the front.
Also the map generation is kinda boring being almost always the same for every biome, I wish there were more like the crater.
Seems odd you can barely interact with your cats in your home. Not even a pet?
Also when you have 100+ cats it would be nice to have some sort of highlight just to see who mutated last night so I don't have to look at my steam auto recording.
Some kind of daily / draft mode where you just go and do a run like some anons suggested seems fun.
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>>734977063
You know what to do
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>>734976185
QOL and UI updates obviously, beyond that the only limit is how powerful the mod API will be. Adding new stuff seamlessly is way easier in a turn based game.
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>>734977170
You need either a mutation or the black candle.

You can use a house boss with black candle if you don't want to equip it all run. For the mutation you just unequip after the last boss.
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>>734977063
Here's how you have a good necromancer
Play dead or go limp
We are one
The leech shot that gets stronger when you are downed
Any ability that automatically revives you end of turn

Now cast we are one, play dead and do a 30+ damage nuke to every enemy on the map instantly ending battles

Doesn't work great for bosses but you can still use the revive to do consistent 30 damage a turn which is not terrible
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>>734976938
>Item sorting is kinda ass
I'm convinced Ed thought everyone would be filling every single slot on every cat in every run they ever started (and then failing 2/3rds of them), whereas that's just not the case and it makes items pile up like fuck.
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>>734977170
Without a way to remove it, it will stay stuck on the cat you put it on when you retire, if if can be removed it will be in storage
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>>734977318
gotcha, i'll just pray for the tail mutation then thanks
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I've had Tink maxed for weeks and I still don't know how to tag cats. I stare at the stats screen with their sexuality and temperament and shit and don't know what the button to tag looks like.
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>>734977358
considering items break yeah, I think that's the point, if you let items pile out sounds like it's your fault innit

>>734977375
click the cat's namae
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how did anyone okay this bubble boy quest it makes the game basically unplayable
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>cats keep walking in front of a shit i want to click away
bravo edmund you are genuious
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>>734977445
>how did anyone okay this bubble boy quest it makes the game basically unplayable
stop using melee
use ranged attacks to bounce enemies into each other and they kill themselves
it's quite easy honestly
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>>734972109
Of course, of course...

But...
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>>734976990
But my suggestion wasn't a spreadsheet. I just wish there was a way to quickly flash a colored border around cats via a filter. Make it a Post-Infinite quest even.
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>>734977225
Chaos is really fucking bad for your first point. If you blink and miss the popup of which bosses it's mimicking, the tooltip doesn't fucking change, so you're just shit outta luck.
I mean I guess you could memorise the colours but c'mon man.
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>>734976990
Breeding being a barrier is the only thing keeping the game entertaining through act 2 though. It's very intentionally balanced.
The moment you get the cats you WANT the game is over because you're way too OP. It shouldn't be easy or encouraged to breed for more than a few days at a time.
It's like complaining that grinding your starter pokemon to level 100 before the first gym is too tedious so they should make it faster.
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>>734977480
Bro use furniture mode.
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SAAR
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>>734977516
zoomer reddit meme
go back
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About to fight the moon boss, any anti-rape tips? Steven yelled at me once this run already.
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>>734977531
wait there's a popup that tells who you chaos mimics? i've exclusively played at 4x speed and have never seen it lmao
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>>734976185
I'm still very new to the game but how the fuck did sorting through cats pass any type of Q&A, it's a pain in the ass scrolling through each one individually, I dread to think how bad it must be once you have dozens of cats in your house.
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>>734977553
Sikhs are bro tier immigrants fuck right off with this racist crap.
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>>734977264
I quite like the spinning death animation that Guppy and the Tormentor do.
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>>734977328
Seems like a highly specific build required to make it work
The most i get from dead builds is torpor and coffin flop, I don't even understand why you'd go for a downing build without a way to offset the downsides of constantly getting injured
My best Necros spam lifesteal and that's pretty fucking lame
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>>734974879
Yes. Total blockage. There's much more disgusting item combos so it shouldn't be surprising.
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>>734977225
>Also the map generation is kinda boring being almost always the same for every biome, I wish there were more like the crater.
this is so baffling, it feels like such missed potential to have desert and crater (and I guess throbbing domain in a sense) have very unique map gimmicks but then have all the remaining areas of the game be effectively identical
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>>734977531
>4x speed
>unwittingly shoot chaos host form
>Defeat!
I can't chew any slower ed
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>>734977591
stay in the middle lane so the hands come to the middle and are in front of the face
attack them when they face you to turn them around
attakc them when you see their eye in front and they are in front of moonman and they go and bitch slap him
you can also have your chonkiest chunkerino with the highest hp walk up to moon man and get swallowed so you can use a secret action to get the hands to slap him in the face

it's an incredibly easy gimmick fight so long as you know basic positioning
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So whats the deal with the whole Super Meat Boy thing?
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>>734977591
do you have a high health cat with regen? get eaten
if not just slam the hands into the moon. its a free boss if you have good speed. if the hands arent in alignment, put your highest health kot as a stone to position it, even if it grabs you its okay, you should have one more attack to free it.
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>>734977442
that's sorta the problem, steakmund wants people to churn through their items and get new ones but the fact that they break makes it tempting to hoard them. it gets especially bad when you up the difficulty and the game starts making it way easier to find the good shit
bear in mind that items used to degrade in-storage and he only reverted it because EVERYONE who playtested the game thought it was pure cancer
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>>734977512
>stop using melee
Yeah if you want to play on easy baby mode.
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Apparently the hat that turns your basic attack into pestilence works with the ranger passive that makes your basic attack leave thorns. You can cover the entire map in thorns on turn one and instantly win the run on the spot since only extremely late game enemies can even reach you before dying.
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>quest to take the air horn to The Infinite
don't think I'm ever going to complete that one
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>>734978023
thank fuck i got that early and only had to take it to the caves
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>>734977615
No one said anything about Sikhs
The saar meme is mostly attributed to south indian Hindus
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>>734977846
the game would be 1000x better if items can't be brought back home
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Goodnight, sweet chonker.
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>>734977747
he grew up nasty, and he grew up mean
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I have never once played with the blank collars because it feels bad using duplicate classes. Triggers my autism or something
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>>734978023
I didn't realise the quest objectives weren't fixed
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>>734978097
Yeah I think I agree actually.
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>>734977445
Just made it yesterday. It went surprisingly smooth, but Spinerette exploded 3 of my cats by the end. By pure luck she died next turn and my Tinkerer who carried bubble survived with 9 hp.
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>>734978023
just toss it away and hope the next you receive it you have to take it somewhere easier
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>>734977747
They call me super meat boy because my meat is super duper with a big touper
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>>734978097
Only if there was an alternate solution for house bosses. That shit would be terrible without items
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>>734978112
can we even legally call this a cat at this point
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>>734978148
There isn't much point especially early
When you start unlocking things they get a lot of shit that is good to fish for
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Had pic related on a monk with another cat with Mind Meld. Literally wiped the entire screen round 1 95% of the time. Super fun build.
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>>734978148
i only do it when my cats happen to have really really good stats for the duplicate classes, otherwise it's just a meme
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>Was going to do a Throbbing king all-collarless run
>One of my collarless has Number One
Fuck, maybe I should make this a Rift run instead because desert... AaaAAAAAAAaaa
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>>734978148
Most of their rolls are pure ass also. It's a boring challenge mode because you don't have any good progression to look forward to for the most part. Skill Share and Mini-Me are their only fun traits.

Best case scenario, there's two Beanies quest items that make them less aids, so you should at least do collarless with those if the destination lines up well. Chaos Controller and Dice or something. Void Soul too maybe I don't even know.
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>>734977594
Yeah it shows a floating graphic of the boss(es) it's taking stuff from when it changes, but they only last a moment or two even on low speeds (I play on 1.5x). If you go higher then yeah you're fucked.
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>>734978232
your cats cpuld just keep whatever they had equipped, like they already do for cursed items
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>>734978417
>if the destination lines up well
Actually scratch that, you can take quest items to other destinations. Just roll quests till you get these items and don't go the objective. Save yourself a boring 90 minute run.
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>>734978386
If you can do 4 collarless run to Thobbing king, why do you still bother with such petty thing as healing in Desert? I know shit happens, but you probably can get through barely scratched.
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It's apples and oranges, but how would you rank Mewgenics to The Binding of Isaac after having time to chew?
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>>734978561
i greatly prefer mewgenics
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>reach boss from an area I haven't gone to yet
>"alright, I know what to do"
>don't make a move and just listen to the song for a while
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>>734978663
Then your cats start singing along and ruin it
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>>734978561
I prefer Mewgenics early/mid game greatly. I have yet to play on the higher difficulties. If Mewgenics late/post game is better than getting all the tainted Lazarus stamps then I have 0 issue with calling it a better game.
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>>734977747
>Ed and Tommy formed Team Meat and made Super Meat Boy
>After Super Meat Boy, Tommy took a vacation and Ed stayed home because he is a sissy boy who is afraid of traveling
Ed had the idea for a cat breeding game but wanted to experiment with designing a game around random generation first, so he teamed up with Florian and made the original flash Isaac in 3 months
>After Tommy returned, they started working on "Mew-Genics". That's when they realized they didn't have much common ground because while Ed wanted to make games for artistic reasons without regard for mass appeal, Tommy just wanted to continue to churn out Meat Boy sequel slop for all eternity because it was easy money
>After some time they decided to put Mew-Genics on hold and work on a shitty Meat Boy autorunner for iPhone. Ed only saw this as something temporary, but Tommy contacted press and said that Mew-Genics was canceled and was never going to happen
>Ed's and Tommy's working relationship worsened (there are also some vague implications that Tommy had a BPD girlfriend). There was also drama with Danny B because he's a SJW faggot but also because Ed wanted to try more theatrical style of music with Ridiculon (correct call)
>Ed became borderline suicidal and made The End is Nigh with Tyler "during the darkest period of [his] life". It was a financial flop because he was too depressed to even want to market it
>Ed realized that the Team Meat thing wasn't going to work out and that the only way he could ever make his dream game was to acquire full rights for the Mewgenics IP from Team Meat in exchange for giving Tommy full rights over Meat Boy
>Ed decided that the trade was worth it and restarted Mewgenics development with Tyler
>Ed decides to make Throbbing Domain/King a thinly veiled jab at Tommy as his way of saying "your Meat Boy slop will never be successful because you weren't in it for artistic reasons and the desire to make something good in the first place"
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>>734978561
biased but i think it's better. i always loved isaac's style but thought the gameplay was kinda boring, when i heard that there was an xcom game in the same style i was pretty stoked and my expectations were exceeded
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>>734978708
imagine not liking the singing cats
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https://files.catbox.moe/atyxnz.jpg
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>>734976990
i kinda see where he's coming from, the point of the game is to make you feel like a crazy cat lady. something like dwarf therapist wouldn't be bad though.
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>>734978808
>Ed wanted to make games for artistic reasons without regard for mass appeal, Tommy just wanted to continue to churn out Meat Boy sequel slop for all eternity because it was easy money
Funny how it turned out the opposite way
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>bubble boy quest
>already saved scummed twice
>3rd scum on dybbuk
>he manages to get my bubble boy and princess cats straight up destroyed
>40 minutes wasted
STEVEN YOU STUPID USELESS CUNT
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>>734978561
I got 900 hours in isaac, I think catgame is better but I'm *only* 97 hours in. Needless to say I did like isaac a lot.
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>>734978808
I need a QRD on how Throbbing King is Tommy, is the organ stealing equal to owning Meat Boy? I can see the greed aspects
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>>734978937
hot
source?
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>>734976287
well there's clearly shit and piss on the floor too so I guess it fits.
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>>734978561
i could never get into BOI. this game is great though.
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>>734978808
Throbbing king is based on trump not super meat boy
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>>734978993
Tell me what games Tommy made since he split up from Ed, go ahead.
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Jesus christ Air Horn was the nastiest side quest yet. Had to take it to the Rift.
Bonus: Druid instantly got a parasite that made him completely useless so I just murdered him and did it with 3cat. Which probably was for the best because Hard routes are a death sentence when you're always ambushed.
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>>734978708
not in the crater
the cats go retarded trying to sing the theme there
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Everyone agrees "wrapped it all up/little bow on top" meow is the worst meow, but what's the best meow?
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>? gender cat
>gay or bisexual

??? what's that even matter here
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>>734978808
I don't think The End is Nigh was a financial flop considering how cheap it was to make (no animators or extra programmers to pay, just Ed, Tyler and Ridiculon), obviously it didn't sell gangbusters but it did sell well enough for Ed to be happy with it.
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Throbbing King is Beanies. Idiots. He did experiments on the townsfolk and stole, hoarded, experimented, mutilated, and manipulated for his goal
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>>734972847
You've been spamming this in almost every single thread since Mewgenics came out. I know you're the same 1 guy because you misspell Hazbin as "Hasbin"
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>Lab is really tough
>"Oh man, I gotta be super careful with the Ice Age, it must be even tougher!"
>It's a cakewalk
Is Act 3 frontloaded? Difficulty comes from stuff like enemies spawning familiars and inflicting debuffs and moving multiple times and stuff. Ice Age was just "number big". Did I just get extremely lucky on my first run? Even Lord Bunga wasn't that bad.
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>>734979182
>mow mow m-m-m-m-m-m-mow
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>>734972847
GOOD bait. powerful bait
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>>734979318
Ice age and Jurassic are just checks for if you're awake. Bunga deletes cats but if you read you can tell where to position yourself. Plus, several Ice Age maps come with enemy factions that kill each other, the werecats vs the cavemen, or baby cavemen vs. anything.
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>>734977541
>The moment you get the cats you WANT the game is over because you're way too OP.
a lot of people don't realize just how broken mutations are, a shit cat with mutations blows perfect 7's out of the water. I'm churning out cats with like 12+ in a stat inherently with projectile reflection and multiple on-hit effects. and I don't even have the broken "take an extra turn" mutations.
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>>734979029
It's a meat themed area full of "flesh lads" and the king steals, entangles (= restricts artistic freedom), vomits (= spews slop) and gives orders.
>Thought he had it made in the shade / Takin' the best parts of us with a rusty blade / It's a royal work of art / Searchin' for a brain to make-a him smart
>Nothing worked as it should / Heart pumped backwards and that's no good / You know it served him right / Thievin' around in the dark of night
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>>734979008
By far the worst Beanies item. The reward is not worth it, trust me. Princess Hat isn't great either, but at least 6 defense is decently useful for a single armor slot.
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>>734979318
the actual hardest area is das future, even my busted cats who could turn 1 clear had trouble with it.
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>>734979240
I like this one. I think I still have it on a few of my cats.
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>>734979492
this is why i get confused when people obsess over peefect 7s. ive got some 3s and 4s in my inbred lineage but each leg having a mutation gives me double digit stats and they get passed down consistently enough in my high stimmy room, my problem now is actually trying to breed away the butterfly & claws mutation
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>>734979174
I used the "give all enemies confusion 2" hat that I slapped on my collarless item-slave I took along.
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>>734979539
Didn't catch this lad's stance. This is hilarious.
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>>734979596
Das Future isn't hard, it just hard walls poor party compositions with cop bots, projectile reflect and magic immunity as a way to tell you stop building your team like a retard. The bosses are jokes (difficulty wise, presentation wise they are my favorites in the game).
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can i combine these 2 to instakill every enemy on spawn
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>>734979240
My favorite e-celebs :)
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>>734979076
TDS
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>>734979838
sure as long as its not a fly standing in grass and you're solo with some offense/ranged
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>>734979838
Yes, you can.
You do need to be able to handle bosses, however. Also remember that if the holding cat gets gibbed, you fail.
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>>734979872
>TDS
Throbbing Domain Syndrome
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>wasting time means that Beanies quests now wants me to take his items to the Rift and the End
FUCKKKKKKKK FUCK OFF
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What do? Path of the Void or Barf seem the most worth.
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>Telefrag Mage with Force Field passive
I thought Mage was supposed to be a shitter...
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>depression
>self harm
>"Goner"
KEK
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>>734980098
crate for items
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>>734979637
>cats[sound=files.catbox.moe%2F7ixar8.mp3].webm
does this work? it clearly didnt here
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>>734980131
Got the gimp mouth to go with it too
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>>734980098
which act and path are you taking? super crate box is a very underrated defensive spell that has saved my ass more than a few times
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>>734980131
>high intelligence
>depressed and suicidal
Checks out
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>>734980165
it works for me, i can hear it
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>>734980165
You need an addon.
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>>734979539
>flesh lads
I always clocked them as like, hearts with limbs
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>>734978561
I got bored of Isaac pretty fast, just like every early roguelike from the 2010s.

I have already played more of Mewgenics at 200 hours than I ever played Isaac, and I can't wait for the DLC.
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>>734979240
https://files.catbox.moe/1bonwr.wav
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Had a dream that there was a miniboss that didn't let you proceed to adventure and that I couldn't beat him. Mewgenics is taking over my sleep now.
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>>734980308
I literally dreamt last night I beat Dyabbuk... I woke up so disappointed
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>>734979240
I STILL have not heard this meow btw.
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>cat meows
there's too many that just talk, I hate those
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>>734979240
The one and only.
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>>734980376
>OW FUCK I mean meow
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>metal slime thing
what do i need for this
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>>734980376
I have none of them in my house, but I do selectively purge strays with godawful meows.
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>>734980376
for me it's the bitch giggling
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>>734980376
>oh yes yes yes please!
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>>734979539
sad.
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>>734980452
watch Terminator 2 to find out
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>>734980568
I kinda like that one, but I only ever had it on one cat and haven't heard it since.
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>>734979318
I just had the opposite experience, I got fucked up by the cavemen with spears and almost lost to Lord Bunga, but the Lab was pretty easy outside of Spewer being a bit tricky. I think it's a breeding thing, you probably had more purposeful stats / mutations / skill inheritance and that's why it wasn't so bad.
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>>734980376
I like the retarded one that I assume is Ricky
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>>734980452
Can't-miss (like Marked) and Fear are very strong. Glass cannons are a bad idea.
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>>734980376
>MEOW BREH
>BREH MEOW
if a kitten or stray shows up with this i insta pipe it. can someone tell me who the eceleb faggot who did this is so i can smash his face in
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>>734980376
I love the voice the cats in the infinite have, don't know if you can get it on your own.
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I want Marshmallow to look my butthole so bad bros…..
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>>734980452
blood laser beam
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>>734980872
>I love the voice the cats in the infinite have
which ones, the ones that go "meow, I'm hurt"?
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>>734979240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yko6BeuPRaQ
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>>734980872
>>734980957
yes you can, that's tonetta
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>>734980376
Jerma’s actually sound like cats kek
https://youtu.be/G0D3uYRqaq8?si=zNzUaWxbuNSYjMwq
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>>734979240
i don't know about best but i've gone out of my way to keep a line of cats that keep doing some kind of tim allen grunt
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>>734980957
I thought that one was Edmund's daughter
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>>734980376
>didn't realize that voices breed down too
>house is full of UH, MEOW??????? PURR DOT WAV!!! all in differing pitches
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>>734980376
For me it's OW MEOW.
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I wish they would get the VAs from Facade for the DLC meows
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I hate british male voices.
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>NICE LITTLE BOW ON TOP
WHICH LITTLE FAGGOT ARE YOU I NEED YOU OUT OF THE GENEPOOL
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>>734980376
>I BEEN HIT
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>>734980131
literally me
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>one or two slams away from beating man on the moon
>my ENTIRE fucking team gets charmed at once right after he calls for backup and i wipe
i wouldnt even care if i didnt get fucked by the dumbest sequences imaginable every single time i try a side quest
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Did Chris-Chan really voiced act for the cats?
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>>734981253
Trying to sort through my 50 cats to find the shitty meow. Even worse when you pick them up and they do a normal meow, so you're not sure unless you see it do whatever triggers its shitty meow like get mad at another cat.
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>>734979240
Is "here comes the sad" the same? If not, that one. I want this shit OUT of my gene pool.
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>>734981325
I didn't even know he could call for backup and I've fought him till Exhaustion before...
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>>734981181
I still want some of the TF2 VAs to be added that are still willing, like the Administrator and Sniper's VA.
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>>734981329
He's listed in the credits.
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>>734981181
They have YMS but not IHE somehow. Oney gang but no Nostalgia Critic. Arin Hanson but no Jontron.
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people say you can't pet your cats but if you click and hold on them you can
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>>734981329
>>734981454
He might as well be the default cat meow it's that good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOmyoUDWwW8
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>>734981481
A lot of the voices were recorded in 2015-16.
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>>734981512
no you cant
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>>734981329
https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/Cats/Voices
this page has all the voice clips by actor
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>>734981558
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>>734981417
Bruh, the sniper VA voiced the game, the "meet the" video and then got the fuck out of town. I think he genuinely dislikes the fact that nerds recognize him for this.
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>>734981512
i want to pet them at home though, it would break up the monotony of breeding sorting if i could pet sleeping cats or toss a ball of yarn and watch them swat it, or simple animations like sitting in front of the tv
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>>734981536
IHE, Dog Walker and Jontron were popular in 2016
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>>734981603
ai slop
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>>734976990
cat breeding is a spreadsheet as is. its just rapidly flipping through cats with the arrow hoping to find what you are looking for maybe.
later on you got such an insane churn of cats that nobody has time to label them with stupid icons.
and you also cannot really take it easy with the breeding because successive runs require more cats.

>>734977541
before you breed the difficulty is pretty rough on the moon and act 3 but when you breed it all falls apart quickly and becomes boring.
honestly the breeding part was a mistake.
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>>734980183
Act 1, probably taking Dybukk because I fucking hate the Caves and the Spider bitch. Dybukk is a guaranteed injury but Junkyard and Boneyard are whatever tier.
I guess crate would be good for Dybukk since I can block him in...
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>>734981603
lol the choppy frame rate and the stupid looking animation
put more effort in next time
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>>734981603
Spam click on it to piss it off
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>>734981532
I thought he would do like the other meme hires and do some funny quips. Pretty decent cat sounds btw
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>>734981605
You're thinking of Scout's VA.
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>>734980131
also a tranny
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>You can just throw away Sidequest items to keep sending kittens to Beanies and avoid doing ones that're obnoxious as fuck for a mediocre reward
No, I SHAN'T be taking the Angry Face Mask to the Rift.
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>>734981689
it's low frame rate cuz it's a gif recorded by sharex to save space
go try it out in game it's faster
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>usually move kittens out by the box to sort them each morning
>do the same with cats if I need to for any reason
>inevitably there'll be some who dislike others
>have to put up with a literal unending stream of *MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW**MOW* as they slap each other while I'm trying to fucking think about stats and shit
>moving them apart so the other party is over by the pipe doesn't matter because they'll wander all the way back over and start doing it again
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>>734981741
>press the mute button on my keyboard
>problem solved
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>>734981603
Fake news
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>>734981740
it doesn't work in game dumbass
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>>734981532
>DO YOU REALIZE THAT IF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OF BOON COUNTY SEES THAT VIDEO THE RADICAL RAT WILL BLOW UP OUR HOUSE?
lol
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>>734981706
Wrong. Scout VA pretty much live the character since that is his only noticeable role, he literally stream doing a Scout impersonation
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>>734981732
whats happens if you fail anyway? im guessing the item in question just goes back into the pool and starts reappearing once there are no more new ones
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>>734981819
i literally just did it in game though
stop farming (you)s
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>>734981595
kek tay zonday is such a classic
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>>734981741
the latest patch on the current beta branch fixes this, now the cats are barely audible unless you zoom into a room. it's almost too silent
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>>734977063
negromancer needs multiple skills and abilities that work together. item wise I dont think they need anything crazy specific just some tankiness helps and maybe some int or range increasing stuff if you care.

as an example going full leech can be fucked up, applying multiple leeches everywhere that bounce off enemies and also return you mana. but thats like 3-4 abilities you need working together so good luck with that.
whats always good is stuff with soul link because it directly helps your other cats if your necro is lame otherwise.
same with that skill that just instantly kills an enemy mook or lets you enslave enemies across runs.

issue is simply that its hard to get some consistency going. often you just end up with a piece of shit tank that doesnt die but doesnt kill and also doesnt really do much else. I guess you could try breeding certain necro abilities for future runs but I had no luck with that.
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Who voices the Shark cats? They sound girly.
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>>734980957
Yeah those ones.
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>>734981325
Having dev sanctioned savescumming as an actual gameplay mechanic via Steven is an inspired choice for a game of this genre where sometimes absolutely heinous bullshit just happens off the cuff, honestly.
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>>734981706
No? The scout VA does other shit for Valve. Or did, rather, back when Valve made games. Sniper is the only VA that didn't literally die that they had to replace for their new videos.
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>>734975950
The collarless boneyard skill is busted
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>>734981850
Yup. I've been getting repeats for a hot minute but I still haven't completed Bubble Boy so I'm just waiting for that one to show up again
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>>734981605
>>734981706
You're both retarded, it's the Engineer voice actor who hates video games and fucked off
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>>734982029
>joker in s
is this the "they can theoretically get every combo xD" technicality or is there more to it
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>party name
oy vey you can't say that
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>>734982029
stop posting this
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>>734982029
(You)
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>>734982029
>STINKerer that high
This better be a joke
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>>734982090
it's just bait
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>>734982029
>Tinkerer at A
>Thief at E
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friendship bracelet + tinker screwdriver = comedy gold
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>>734982029
this is a passives for breeding tierlist aint it
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>>734981512
if you tap them they hiss at you
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>>734982062
Oh, yeah... You're right kek
I mixed engineer and sniper up. Oops.
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>>734982146
I imagine you can only really do Hard+ Infinite with broken combos like that, otherwise your opposite stat boosted cats with matching equipment will just insta-gib you
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>>734982092
>"open the doggy doors" he said from within the comfort of the closed off laundry room
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Tier lists for this game are bullshit. Every class except Hunter and Tank are feast or famine. There is no consistent ABCDEF meta. Just 50/50 coin flips.
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>>734982146
>tinker screwdriver
There's also the Tinker skill that does the same thing but as a spell
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>>734982151
then it'd still be shit since fighter and monk have some of the best passives in the game
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>>734982257
With that said, Mage is shit.
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>>734982151
If that's the case it's even MORE wrong because Monk is one of best breeding donors in game and Thief has some great ones too, like that passive that makes the basic attack bypass shield and inflict Weakness.
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>>734982257
With that said, Mage is god.
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PILLS HERE!!!!
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>>734982257
With that said, Mage is eh
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>>734982253
Kek
>druid
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what ruins mage is so many skills that require other skills to work or just shitty ass stats down abilities, like whoa an attack that instakill frozen enemies? if only I had a single source of ice this whole run... oh slow 1 to an enemy gee amazing
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Mage would be so much better if his main was an arc projectile instead of based on line-of-sight by deafult
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Mage is perfect the way he is <3
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>>734982440
Or maybe if it had more than 3 fucking range
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I get the best runs when I go Cleric + Tank + Hunter + Anything. I don't like it.
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>>734982218
yeah, it's like preparing for dybbuk but cranked up to 11. at hard+ infinite you should have enough 7s/mutations/item combinations to find something that works but if you don't it's a long way back to the infinite.

i like it though, need jester+collarless completion for hardmode and then on to the next difficulty

>>734982268
thanks, will keep an eye out for that spell
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>>734982469
Some of the criticisms make sense, but people keep complaining about Mage's range when Mage rolls more teleport opportunities than Hunter and Thief.
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>>734982440
Mage would be better if it didn't have like 5 different build archetypes that don't interact with each other at all, all vying for your pick of build. Same thing as Tinker, when either of them pop off they REALLY pop off, but the other majority of the time they're left squarely mediocre as you end up with passives and spells that simply don't offer any synergy with each other, or are even anti-synergistic.
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>>734982547
>Arizona,jpg
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This shit is goated with a support monk that spams basic attacks
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HULK HOGAN AND HIMMEL
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>He isn't using Mage as a support class

ngmi
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>>734982613
>hunter is le good
we know buddy
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>>734982624
UBER DEATH CARTEL EDEN
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>>734982613
>tfw got this alongside a Thief with Nail Flurry+
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>>734980376
>Death has come and so have I
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS ONE
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>>734982646
I have Psychic for that.
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The problem is that mage has 3 builds
>mana support
>sparkle damage dealer
>normal magic damage dealer
All the elemental shit sucks, and so do most of the specific mana passives.
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Here is the thing, let me choose the element of my Mage when I choose his class
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>>734982581
this antenna quest is funny
everything is fire
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>mage sucks
https://www.nexusmods.com/mewgenics/mods/148
try this out
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>>734981595
>Mike Stoklasa
What the fuck I'm pretty sure I had a cat with his voice and never noticed.
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how do you get more than 10 mutations?
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>>734983029
>cheating
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>make a class with a dozen skills that need turns to scale
>it's also one of the only classes that can't give itself extra turns
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>Vs hitler III
Kino battle
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>>734983126
how is it a cheat
it's not overpowered
if anything it makes mages slightly weaker but a little bit more versatile
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>>734983096
The Rich Evans cat even says "OH MY GOD" as a dead meow.
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>>734982257
You're retarded if you think Fighter is as feast or famine as Mage. Like genuine mouthbreathing clapping retarded.
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I didn't love Monk at first but if you give it the right items it really pops the fuck off. Some of my Cow Skull and Apprentice builds have hard carried my runs, especially with my Psychic spamming extra turns.
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>>734983242
>if you give it the right items it really pops the fuck off.
You could easily replace "monk" with any other class.
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>Have my cat lick the sun because I forgot what it does but I remember it having a not bad effect last time I did it
>Cat outright gets fucking vaporized
Damnit, I guess now I need to deal with Deja Vu one one of my main damage dealers for the infinity... Or should I just return? I am not sure which to actually do since this would be my first attempt at infinity in hard mode but on the other side it did take me 7 turns or so to beat the previous boss.
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I hate the tank. I hate the stupid rock abilities. The only reason you would need a tank is because you're too bad at the game to avoid taking damage. Tank is a sponge noob crutch more than even the cleric.
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>>734975950
Mecha suit for tinkerer by completing a Caves run
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>>734983442
Mech suit is shit
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>>734978561
>1050 hours in Isaac (dead god) and 200 in Mewgenics (about to start the Nuke quest)
I think Isaac is better, it's one of my favorite games ever but mewgenics is a great game
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>>734983242
I had a monk with extra turn, way of owl and kamahema or however you spell it. He did not need items.
Turn 1 - Extra Turn, Kamehema
Turn 1.5 - Way of the Owl, Kamehema
Turn 2 - Extra Turn (Doubled), Kamehema
Turn 2.5, Way of the Owl (Doubled), Kamehema
Turn 2.75 Kamehema (Doubled)
Turn 3 Extra Turn (Doubled), Extra Turn (Doubled), Kameha

Past that it was just throwing double Kame and filling mana for extra turns because I think I had a 3X mana cap so more than 3 owl stacks was redundant. Don't even remember what the fourth spell was.
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>>734983294
I guess I mean that it pops off in really interesting ways. I love a good fighter, but most of its broken builds boil down to "do a stupid amount of damage". Classes with strong versatile and/or unorthodox builds like Monk and Psychic really do it for me.
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>>734978808
Guy was a retard to bank on Super Meat Boy being this super profitable thing in the future.
It only ever became a thing because early XBL type of indie shit had nearly no competition but its clear that isaac was the real breakthrough.
Its like when Jon Blow thought anybody would give a shit about Braid in 2025.

I didnt know about any of this and recently saw the Meat Boy 3D trailer and thought to myself "is there really anybody who still gives a shit about this?". Now that I know the backstory it confirmed to me that its just a cynical cashin.
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i miss transporting zaratana
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>Fighter
>Passive that resets movement when you deal more than 10 damage with any attack
>Skill that turns movement skill into a dash attack
>buff attack so every attack does at least 10 damage
>Fighter can now attack with a constantly resetting attack move.
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>>734978561
Isaac is still better. I really don't like the house gameplay, and not only that, if you put time into it you can just trivialize the actual fun part of the game.
If the game was just purely a tactics roguelite you could jump into on a whim it'd probably be better.
The skill check events aren't fun at all too, they're more often than not just "pick the greenest thing".
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>>734983408
>enemy manipulation
>team protection
>team support
>solid damage
>borderline immortal
>pet rock builds go crazy
Tank is perfectly fine, it's only issue is that Psychic powercreeps them in enemy manipulation and CON tanking is not effective during act 3.
Plus it's one of your 4 basic classes, what are you going to use instead?
Mage?
Necro?
Tank is great until you unlock more classes.
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Sparkles aren't worth even the barest glance so long as they trigger every enemy on-hit effect under the sun.
It's baffling that the game treats them like a buff when they'll almost certainly never make a real difference except for the times where they fuck things up for you.
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>>734983692
I'd rather play Tank > Psychic tbqh
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>>734972701
>>734972635
I much prefer seeing Gambit to seeing that 6-shooter fuck
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>>734972635
>toddlercon
quoy?
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Im at 82 appeal and still getting non 7 cats. how are you supposed to not inbreed with this shit how much appeal do you need
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>>734983731
The one exception I had was a psychic with an ability that made them emit sparkles equal to their mana regen at the end of every turn, as long as their mana was full. Ended up pouring them full of int until it was retard high, got a +1 magic damage item and then every turn they'd just shit out an absurd amount of sparkles and wipe 80% of the map in one go, all while standing still and doing fuck all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcGq2MZ1Cbg
karaoke bros?
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>>734983731
Sparkles are pretty good but you need a source of magic damage
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>>734978561
Too soon to say. Isaac has more content from DLC, but Mewgenics has recency bias.
I'm leaning torwards saying Isaac because I have 1600 hours in it, but I already have 300 hours in Mewgenics and It's only been about a month.
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>Chakram triggers backstab hits
>Can stack Pack of Blades up really easily
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I wonder how the DLC for this game will work.
You can already break so much of it with a slight bit of breeding effort.
And if you go truly hard on the breeding you can actually come up with some truly devilish shit that even multiple bumps in difficulty would struggle with.
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Can Joker Card Duplicate itself?
With a full Jester Set is it 27 duplications (Triple The effect of face armor (X3), Triple the effect of Head Armor (X9), Triple the effect of Trinket (X27)?

Can Ball Peen Hammer put uses above stock? Can it add a use to the Joker Card?
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>>734983826
I have around the same and occasionally get a cat with three 7s. I keep those and throw them into the orgy room

>>734983917
>new classes
>1-2 new passives or skills per class
>more items that cover gaps in builds
>a new act or two
>new enemies
>new cat mutations
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>>734983917
he said he was thinking of a small dlc with 4 new classes first and then maybe a larger "act 4" major dlc after
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>>734983995
It's "immune" to most duplication effects (like Vurp) and the hammer doesn't work either. I would guess that it can't duplicate itself for the same reason.
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>>734980376
>hi hello hey over here I love it thank you oh yes yes yes please owie that hurts boohoo I'm sad
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>>734983628
I missed zaratana so much that I cheated her collar back in but atlas even doing that didn't bring her home
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>>734983917
we are in desperate need for challenge runs with prebuilt cats
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>>734983826
If you would please consult the graphs.
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>>734983903
i could count on one hand the number of magic damage sources i've seen after 200 hours
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>>734984081
Okay. Last question, is it legitimately treated as a "consumable".
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>>734980376
>I do believe they say... meow
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>>734983826
why do you need pure7s? ur mutationmaxxing?
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>>734983917
Just make an endless run mode that never stops increasing in difficulty like in plants vs zombies
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>>734984331
That’s a good question.
Cap & Bells works on it, so maybe it’s treated more like a single-use trinket?
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>>734982897
hbomberguy
>literally who
breadtuber who got popular for exposing big youtubers as plagiarists
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>>734984331
Cap and Bells hat works with it, you get 3 copies of the item
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Is there any benefit to having negative luck?
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>thou shall not kill + ostracize
>enemy kills his team mate then dies to damage for killing his team mate
love clerics
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>>734984607
some events have good bad outcomes like the white rabbit event but usually you want luck in the positives
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what level would you consider taking off the Me Stone

I have tail that lets me unequip curse items on the cat holding it and I can have at least 2 good cats instead of just 1 i just realized
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>>734982076
You hold no power over me Steven, for I have drawn myself as the Chad and you as the Soijak
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>>734984607
there's a necro build that works off of this
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>>734984607
If you have a cat with Inverse, that stat becomes positive 195 luck. If the traded off stat is intelligence, you'll have an unstoppable fighter with the right rolls
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>>734984454
Pre-release I assumed the Infinite was just going to be a zone that goes on forever and recycles content.
I hope they do that. It would be chaotic as fuck to play a zone where you didn't know what enemies or bosses you'd face and that sounds awesome.
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Stop moving twice in 1 turn!!!
You are just a champion enemy!!!
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My other butcher was able to tear him up shortly after this, but I was really worried after this happened. Cheeky cunt.
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>>734984678
someone redraw this as steven
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>>734984879
no ones ever called me a champion before T-T
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>>734984879
Arbitrary multi-turn enemies are one of the few things I don't like about this game
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>loner mark 2 will reload when an enemy dies during the ai controlled turn happy face
huh, neat interaction. I guess it's programmed like the inverse of impostor syndrome and that enemies are considered allies for the initial turn for the purposes of effect calculations
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>>734984671
probably when you stop getting ability/passive upgrades and you're exclusively getting the +1 stat upgrades
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>>734984879
hello i'm a shark and i will be able to move 3 times per turn yes
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>>734984782
Dunno how well that would work, the game is built around limited runs; all levels beyond 9 are just +1 stat.
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>>734985070
fuck you shark go back to the sewers
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>>734984607
criticially failing the fountain event gives your cat the eternal youth disorder. with -99 luck a criticial failure is all but guaranteed
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>>734984274
Is it even possible to get 500+ appeal?
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>>734985198
This being the crit fail is so immensely stupid.
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What's the minimum your comfort, appeal and stimulation need to be for them to start effecting anything?
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barabear game..
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>>734985256
With rare furniture and neglecting the other stats, yeah I bet.
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>>734985198
Wait I had that without trying, is it that rare? What are the benefits?
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There should be more cat sinks. Having 50 cats is meaningless if you can't do anything with them or can only take 4 at a time. If you could send squads to do some chores, or something like in older monster hunter games where you could send your cats to explore and they would get ingredients or whatever.
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>>734985198
>Your cat turned into nice furniture! Now carry him throughout the run so you can bring him home! :^)
Yeah nah, that's an alt+F4 into event retry bud
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>>734985329
You can't use the cat for battling after you go home and it's basically furniture that takes 0 space that eats 1 food every night.
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>>734985283
Comfort never needs to be higher than like 20. Even that is probably excessive.
Stim and Appeal are more or less as much as you can possibly get. You don’t need a whole lot of mutation to start seeing it do stuff. You start seeing disorders the moment health goes negative.
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What classes besides thief benefit from crit hits the most? Got a cat with a starting ability of marked but it has 1 more strength then dexterity
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i had an idea for a class called infiniter and all its spell have infinite range let me know if u guys liked it
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>>734985435
That's gay, I prefer mouthless cats so they don't need food at all.
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>>734985329
Your cat is basically a permanent furniture item; that's it.
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>>734978561
My biggest gripe I don't foresee going away with Mewgenics is that skill expression isn't anywhere near the same as Isaac.
I can boot up Isaac and (most) of every run is engaging even with the same general gameplay loop: sightread the room and kill everything before they kill you, check for secret rooms when optimal, Downpour/Dross is so rewarding compared to the rest of alt-path, HP management for deals, when to use a reroll, etc. etc.
Mewgenics offload like 80% of a run's crucical decisions into the eugenics and I don't have the same type of dopamine like with Isaac. Runs are still fun, but I don't feel like I have to deviate much from "spec into these spells/passives and picking stats is super straightforward".
Sidequests seem like they'd help in that regard like challenges in Isaac but almost every sidequest item is some super restrictive gotcha that gets negated if you either already have breeded for it or lucked into it.
I fucking love Mewgenics but I can't ever see it replacing Isaac in my heart when runs are already pretty much solved before I start one.
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>>734985481
is that a thing? cool
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>>734985467
I originally kinda assumed this is was what Psychic was supposed to be.
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>>734985283
all personal anecdotes:
i see no difference between comfort/stim above 15, compared to 15. health at 9 is when i got one cure every night. my fight room is at -3 health but no one is getting diseases
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>>734985256
I think the theoretical max appeal (excluding eternal youth kittens) is 2336. Your house has 4 * 112 + 136 spaces. Rare Rustic Stool is 1x1, lets you put something on top and gives 4 appeal.
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>>734985198
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>>734985639
Yes, cats with the no mouth birth defect don't use food but the downside is that they can't use consumables during a run.

>>734985710
>health 9
I'm not seeing any cures at all, do you need to leave a single cat in the room or something?
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>>734985456
Still ranger because of the 100% accuracy part.
>>734985256
Rare Baphomet statue is 2x3 for 12 appeal. Don't think you can get a better ratio than this. That would need like, 42 of them which you can probably do.
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>>734985810
forgot to say I got health 15 in my room
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>>734985756
Nice, gonna get a lot of mileage posting this around
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>>734985810
I’ve been getting injuries cured at 5 health pretty frequently. Disorders are another deal, I’ve never seen one cured (which is good for my Dwarf cats); my guess is they never happen until something like 10 health.
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>>734985383
Sucks that the only thing retired cats can do is fight a very small pool of house bosses. I want to put them in beauty pageants run by an odd individual who gives you quests like "show me a bird-like cat" meaning once you eventually get a cat with bird wings, beak, or feet, you send it to him for money. Or some kind of cat fight ring run by Butch where you 1v1 cats that he bred. I can't think of a use case for sending cats off to do chores since most players are swamped with items.
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>>734984671
Trait+ or the level after that.
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>>734985832
I got one during the nuke run which is great
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>>734985810
shit like broken paws or concussions are what get cured in my health 9 room, i haven't had a disorder cured yet since usually my disordered cats die after i test them out in runs. stuff like williams syndrome won't be cured right?
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>>734985618
Agreed 100%. A solid DLC package might improve my overall opinion of Mewgenics, but it's really hard to beat Isaac in terms of dynamic decision making that heavily rewards game knowledge. Mewgenics will eventually devolve into cookie-cutter builds, I think.
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i've seen vore of magnus and fucking trampy yet i've yet to see marshmallow pred, this is such horseshit
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>>734978561
Mewgenics is more of a campaign game really, the way the game works I don't feel too encouraged to do "one more run" after seeing the credits.
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>>734985383
>>734986007
Yeah, I know eugenics is the name of the game, but more important than more classes and abilities to me is a shitload of events to make cats at home do fun stuff. Especially lineage based stuff such as them remembering their grandparent's deeds or some shit.
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Rate, hate, masturbate.
https://tiermaker.com/create/all-of-mewgenics-ost-19188710
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>>734986201
Actually, Mewgenics is the name of the game
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>>734986184
The vore community got really gay over the past decade, and furries have been homo since the dawn of time.
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>>734984670
wtf i just picked the bad option after reading this post for shits and giggles and i didn't know you could get a rabbit boss encounter. free extra level up?
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>side quest is just "do a solo run"
ok
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>>734986007
An underground cat fight ring would be cool. Man, the cats you beat runs with could show up and you have to defeat them, that would kick ass. But like you mentioned, what's the point, I already got the furniture I needed and weapons are kind of eh. Money is kind of useless as well. Trading cats could be another feature, like you mail a cat and you get something with roughly the same stats but different mutations or whatever. Cats being so disposable is kind of a waste even if part of the theme. I wish there were ways to remember immortalize cats as statues or whatever, a hall of fame, like I remember my old Malariacat run where he would instadie and spawn 2 fly swarms then I would use my cleric to revive it and kill it over and over. That was memorable and fun but down the pipe they go, that's lame.
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>>734984597
Does the full Jester set not multiply it by 27?
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Gamble+ is busted
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>>734972109
Is this game popular for its look and memes/western humor, or is it also good gameplay-wise?
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>>734986241
I was trying to find a shitpost image and went into a trash vore thread. Yikes
https://i.4cdn.org/trash/1773533803710241.png
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>>734986414
it's got great gameplay
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>>734986346
Are you retarded? There is literally no reason to do a solo run with this
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>>734986414
Yes (to both). It won't have lasting appeal with most players, though. A lot of the game's mechanics are autistic and mean spirited.
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>>734986449
there's no reason not to do a solo run
the fuck am i gunna do with 3 dead weight level 1 cats on my team, use em as meat shield distractions?
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>>734986341
iirc you can also fight the Dust Devil as a boss if you critically fail the Charm event for him. I managed to recruit him once but I only learned you could fight him recently.
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>>734986367
It would be cool if the game stored some of your dead cats and they showed up after Beanies reanimated them, to fight
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>>734976205
the humming makes me ascend
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>>734986506
Yes?
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>>734977516
Why does nobody puts effort on their memes these days?
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>>734986414
it is not a game that can coast on by humor and looks if that's what you mean, it's a fantastic tactics game.
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Will you goycattle please fuck off to /vg/
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>>734980376
https://www.nexusmods.com/mewgenics/mods/94
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>>734986506
I mean, you can take the 3 dead weights and try to carry them all the way to the end of whatever you're trying to do if you're missing unlocks for certain classes, you could even leave one of them as colarless even
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wtf do i do against the c-1000?
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>>734986525
The cat's corpses canonically all go to the Organ Grinder so unfortunately I think that's off the table
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>>734986693
i already have all moon unlocks
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>>734986653
What's the difference between a normal thread and a general thread? I still don't get it
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>>734986367
the issue with this is that cats usually are really strong by the end, if my boneyard runs almost fail is because stupid cat possesses my strongest one and oneshots one or two of my cats, but I guess that would be the thrill of the fight
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>>734986696
Have him copy a necromancer with blood geyser or self-downing moves
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>>734986696
>mark him so your shit can't miss
>fear him so he wastes his moves
>bring in a random stray with death scythe and move it next to him so he copies it, uses the attack and kills himself
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>>734986710
But we are playing as a reanimated corpse, surely he can steal some of my chads from that homosexual.
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>>734986696
>bring tank with “block frontal attacks” passive
>park tank in front of c1000
>launch range attacks from other cats
>it deals 0 damage since it can’t copy the tank
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>>734986731
A normal thread is one I approve of.
A genereal thread is one that I don't approve of.
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>>734986731
Generals have anons as ecelebs
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>>734986710
Just say he used the adn to make a perfect clone of how the cat was before dying.
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>Act 1 solos almost done
>Need Druid, Psychic, Tinker, Cleric, Fighter
>Might do A2 hard group runs after
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>>734986236
read em' and weep em'
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FUCK OFF

AM I DOING TOO WELL FOR YOU, GAME?
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>>734981706
Ah yes, the Scout's VA, who famously doesn't want anything to do with his role as the Scout.
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>>734986904
Nice, you chose a shitty downsampling method and I can't read shit
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>>734987054
this is just how tiermaker outputs images and they're bad but if you squint you can read em
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>>734986236
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>>734986424
hey I posted that
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>>734987054
i chose the save button on tiermaker.com
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>>734987113
based
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...100?
what the fuck...
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>>734986236
i can't do this so many songs are S tier
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>>734987271
This is a part of the game I refuse to believe all playtesters agreed upon
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does soul jar drop anywhere or is it a region based thing? i want to make one of those repair tinkerers
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>>734987271
the best part is that after that you get free parasites every 10 cats cool!
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>>734987351
It was probably put at 100 to keep in line with the mindset of "we want the player to suffer" tyler seems to have
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>>734986940
best mutation in the game
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MAYHEM
MADNESS
BEDLAM
HAVOC
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>>734987113
I do like the collar on the leg, that's a great idea
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>>734987351
i somehow doubt playtesters got that far
and they certainly didn't do the infinite above normal difficulty
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>>734987271
Your steak sire!
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>>734987481
>tfw had this strain and decided to go with dice tail
Feels bad. After just one Black Candle + Callus run, I know.
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this storage is killing me
keep looking and thinking ok and see something else I want on the right
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mutant reject freak fight pit acquired
chaos, chastity and mutation idols
i'm just going to keep throwing kittens from my "prime" breeding pairs into this pit and select some champions to use for runs
the attic shall be reserved for retirees who come home from adventures, their freakish offspring can be chucked back in here too

i assume negative comfort makes them fight more right?
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>Cat just gained Eating Disorder in a room with -1 health
EXPLAIN THIS NOW
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>>734981481
is avgn even in this
is the triple item damage from fighter what it takes to make tinkerer even useful?
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>>734987978
>negative health can cause bad conditions to appear
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my cat had a birth mutation with his eyes when born
i put him in mutation room and his eyes vanished. now he has this for eyes, nothing
bug?
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>become entropy with hunter's boon
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>>734972548
Unless it's the house boss version
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>>734988050
Smash!? That one is garbage. You want the double use (damage) fighter or triple use butcher.
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>>734987923
Yes. More negative means more fights.
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>>734988173
do dead cats get auto piped to the corpse guy each day or do i still need to handle that shit myself
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>>734988114
i have it too
i just assume the eyes are behind fur
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>>734988163
yes but this is about tinkerer
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>>734988218
gotta manually pipe em
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>>734988218
I think if you don't pipe them there's a chance they get eaten by your cats. They don't go to corpseguy unless you dictate it.
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>>734988272
>>734988218
Should be automatic after a day. I left a solo dead cat in my attic as a memorial and it just disappeared randomly
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>>734987923
chastity idol is pointless because no one is going to breed with negative comfort
you want chastity idol for your room where you store good cats you want to save for battle but don't want to breed for whatever reason
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>>734975060
why would you want mouthless mutants?
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>>734988114
>>734988250
it probably just is a no eyes mutation right
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>>734988271
No it's about fighter
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>>734988350
>no one is going to breed with negative comfort
ah i didn't know that
i'll throw it in the attic then to stop the retirees fucking, it's getting annoying
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>>734988350
wont negative comfort cause them to fight though? i want them to not fight and not breed so I use chastity
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>murdered by her hated rival in the middle of the night
good night sweet princess, you will be missed
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>KATFIGHT KATFIGHT comes on the radio
>end day
>sudden bloodbath of 7 fights and multiple deaths
This has to be intentional like the zombie song in L4D2, right
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is all run required for all achievements or can I skip graveyard all collarless run
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>>734988556
>immortal
>dies
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>>734988653
You'll need to kill Throbbing King with all collarless, doesn't matter how you get there.
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>>734988653
each run with a collarless unlocks something in each location

there's an extra special unlock for using 4 collarless vs the final act bosses
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>>7349880501
James has NO TIME to spend 10 minutes recording cat voices to send in, what are you thinking
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>>734988653
>>734988732
Just to confirm, a check is better than an x?
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>>734988729
I did throbbing and rift with all collarless. I know I need to do moon with a collarless but do I also need to do an all collarless run or is there only unlocks for the final area
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>>734988780
Oh, right, presumably you'll need to do graveyard at some point.
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>>734988756
you get x for 1-4 cats with the same collar and checks for solo cats per collar
a check overwrites the x so you might as well just do solo cat runs for each class everywhere
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>Take a cat using the Loner+Angry Mask combo to Act III because I was just fucking around and wanted to see how effective it'd be rather than just tossing them out
>Go to the future like a retard
>Encounter right before Hitler II has an Ubercat
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>>734988756
A check is 'better' (it upgrades the mark and you can never go back) but there's no unlocks/achievements tied to it.
Unless you're super-autisming your percent completion tracker. Getting all check marks is an extra point above getting all cross marks there. But both are optional for all unlocks/achievements.
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>>734988756
Yes, check is solo run. X is one class run. I don't know if there are difficulty versions
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>>734988780
>>734988846
No, wait, I'm stupid that's just doing all areas with A (not all) collarless. You should be good.
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>>734988847
2-4 cats you numpty
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i saw someone with little white boxes under the location checkmarks as well, what's going on with those
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i cant survive bloat enough to fight mother which should be easy, i keep getting injuries that make it hard to escape the cancer
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>>734989016
That's where the x/checks go for hard/crazy/impossible, I think
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>>734989068
ah i see
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>>734983242
>>734983516
For my money, it's Ocular Shakedown->Double Melee->The passive that gives you a second move without armor.
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we are so back suicide bomber tinkerer bros
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>crit fail the spiderwebs event
>cat seems happy?
>gave them this
Well, I'm not complaining.
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before i waste this little retard does this mean i can use leech shot 3 times per turn? or does it actually replace my starting leech shot skill
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>>734989263
it replaces the starting leech shot
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>>734985456
Spread Shot Ranger for 2x2 enemies
Monk because rounding up on backstabs means you squeak out more damage across two hits than a single bigger one.
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>>734989141
For you, you are so back.
For your team, it is so over.
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>>734986236
>Kannibal Kitty
>Great
I'm so fucking sick of that song
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>>734989263
There's some thief traits that can be used well with this.
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>>734989346
dont tell me anon... you're not the get eaten kind?
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>>734989346
For me it's chumbucket kitty. Those verses are grating.
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>>734989346
So send me to the big house, if eating pussy's a crime
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>>734989425
t. where that smell is coming from
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>>734989445
If even just for a nibble...
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>>734989263
You can replace your attack (again) in combat via trinket/skills to keep the +2 attacks/turn, it's a pretty great mutation.
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>>734989497
I'm happy to do my time.
Time.
Time.
Time.
Time.
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>>734988358
no food consumption, which lets you spam End Day with impunity. Yes, you can just resummon Tina, but this is way faster.
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>>734989487
SHOP.

NOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!
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>>734989518
so druid and animal forms?



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