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Does it run a bit better these days or has adding more bloat just make it worse?

>>734979203
not a super oldfag and it never ran bad, except the times when the clown gets a banana peeler or botany/science do some bullshit that spawns a trillion items per second

>>734978796
there was just an event on /vg/station but from what I hear it wasn't anything special

>>734979203
it varies from codebase to codebase but I never really had a problem with framerate when playing SS13 except for when someone deliberately tries to lag out the game

>>734979203
everyone just plays SS14 now

>>734979857
I just wish 14 had even half the content of 13.

i still hate that combat mode was added to ss13 and got popular
i still hate the movement style of ss14
and i STILL kinda miss fallout13 servers

>>734978796
Last time i played ss13 it fucked up my pc mid game and im not sure why. Shame because i was having fun with the regulars on tg

so what server does /v/ play on nowadays?

>page 9
dead game

>>734982012
Its more censored than blusky what did you expect?

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>>734980378
primetime on a saturday...

>>734979569
As far as /tg/station goes there was a time when the servers were notorious for lagging like motherfuckers, usually when the singularity was released or when someone blew a massive hole in the hull with a bomb. If I remember correctly for ages the coders insisted it had something to do with the code for the atmosphere system or some shit like that and that there was nothing they could do about it only for it to turn out to be an easily fixed map error or some shit like that.

>>734984171
>tile based atmos
lmao

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CONFIRMED OUTBREAK OF LEVEL 5 BIOHAZARD IN THE THREAD. ALL PERSONNEL MUST CONTAIN THE OUTBREAK.

Does anyone else have fun playing clown/hospitality only?

>>734988830
I only really have fun with jobs that have access to a lot of complex mechanics and some relative freedom like engineer, cargo tech, and scientist.

There are no good servers left. Not even roleplay ones.
.t former Hippystation a
""""admin"""

amdin

I hope all TGstation coders get raped by niggers then 41% themselves for the collective damage they have done for the game.

>>734978796
The clown cannot meta game, you will get banned.

>>734988830
Playing clown is fun when you've got people chill enough to run some fun gimmicks. Like one time on /tg/station I played a clown named RAAAADICAL RAAANDY and just went around with a skateboard and backwards hat slamming my skateboard into shit and spewing 90s slang. At one point I caught the mime trying to break into security and helped security out by beating him to death with my skateboard.
Another time. I went around the station completely covered in blood dragging a locker welded shut until security finally tased me. I screamed at them that they couldn't open the locker and if they did they would immediately regret it
The locker contained a dead monkey, a few nude Polaroids of my character, and some photocopies of my ass
Can't really do that kind of shit anymore though because /tg/station's kind of gone to shit. Everyone's just intent on proving they're the most robust at combat by immediately murderboning as antags right from the get go, min maxing their department, just looking for any excuse to kill anyone over the slightest grievance, or just kind of being a dick just for the sake of being a dick.

>>734978796
Played this game once with a group from a forum. Every single one of them trooned out. Fucking faggots

Can surgeon still harvest asses? only answer im looking for.

>>734988830
I had the most fun being a bar tender and getting cargo to help build me a whacky booze conveyor machine thing, you could unload booze through a hole in the wall

>>734991426
Gooners gonne goon

is Lifeweb still a thing?
I remember playing it many years ago when the english version was first released, I kept playing as the barons little daughter trying to not get raped
and sometimes I played a hobo and did the raping myself

>>734991481
On goonstation yeah. I got some fond memories of stealing asses from way back in the day when poop and donut station were still a thing and the admins didn't do jack shit and were barely ever on.
>roll roboticist
>found a dude drunk, passed out, and covered in diarehia and vomit
>drag him over to robotics, remove his ass, and then throw him out
>use his ass to make a buttbot
>he comes back to medbay later demanding his ass back
>tell him I don't know where it is
>later see him explode into gibs from being unable to shit due to having no ass
Speaking of poop, that's one of the things I miss most from the old days of Goonstation. It was always kind of hilarious how within mere minutes of a round starting the cafeteria would be basically covered with shit, blood, puke, and broken glass mainly from fucking assistants getting wasted and deliberately giving themselves the runs by drinking copius amounts of spacewind so they could just shit and puke all over everything. It was like the very embodiment of the insanity of SS13

>>734978796
Such a beautiful game.

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any CM fags here?

qrd on this clown? i see him in the game all the time, but why? who is the clown? why does he incite mischief?

>>734978796
Remember ages back I was fucking around as an assistant before I got kidnapped by some Chozo and was forced to work as a maid (male) until I finally got rescued by security.

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>>734991426

>>734992573
>i see him in the game all the time, but why?
because the company decided that every station needs a clown
>who is the clown?
me
>why does he incite mischief?
it's my job

>>734992569
Used to play. Admins and mods are tranny dick suckers so I don't anymore.

>>734992569
CM would be more fun if it wasn't such a fucking hugbox. I don't even know why they have an MP role on the server when they have countless safeguards against griefing (you can't even detonate smoke grenades on the ship) and just about every issue is handled OOC.
Makes MPs into a joke too. They basically exist to do nothing except sit around and then get killed if the ayys manage to board the ship since any marine who steps out of line usually just ends up coping a ban for it

>>734992756
>>734993136
Play CorpMerc instead?

2hotdogs wuz here

>>734988830
i very much enjoy janitor work especially on a hectic station
nothing like cleaning blood from an active firefight

>>734978796
For me it's roboticist.

>>734992756
what happened? I haven't played CM myself since mid-late 2020 but I heard something about the discord mods basically staging a coup against the game server mods and doing things like replacing them with pronoun people and even making the utterance of the word "deltard" a bannable offense (though I think the latter one may have been reverted after the obvious backlash)

I always thought CM was immune to the predations of the """""usual suspects""""" because of it being a slow-paced team deathmatch rather than emphasising socialisation and clique formation between statics like the station servers, but I suppose I get what I deserve for underestimating their burning ambition to make literally every niche internet community in existence gay and retarded.

I only played from 2013-2019. How has the game been since?
I feel like you just can't play it anymore. The fun has been had.

>>734978796
deader'n'disco

>>734992569
cm was fun (xeno only btw)
i like tgmc more because it lagged less but then they made xenos complete shit to the point where a single retard marine could easily solo the queen alongside smart aim, tadpole, etc and i just stopped playing, no point playing xeno on the marine snowflake metagame server

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>>734999041
It's been totally gentrified
All the "classic" station style servers are basically dead. I'd say the last holdouts are /vg/ (which is stagnant anyway) and Terry (whose admins have nothing but contempt for their own players, and the server is dead for half of the day anyway)
The remaining servers are complete hugboxes and they've lost most of their population to the various furry servers that popped up a few years ago when the game started getting shilled on Furaffinity.
Medieval RP took off for a bit when some coders tried reviving Roguetown and predictably they lost their entire playerbase to the various furfag clones as soon as they made the codebase open source.
That's not to mention that a good chunk of the playerbase left either due to moving to SS14 or during the multi-month ddos attack last year.
The golden years are long gone and it's looking pretty bleak. Even CM lost its spot on top of the hub.

>>734979857
>yes I want a fifth of the experience on a platform ran by trannies and fags while the game itself goes against core concepts of the game it's copying and I'm NOT kidding
ss14 fags are so pathetic
also you're wrong, most play on monke

>>734999884
>everyone I don't like is a hugbox!
>n-no this has nothing t-to do with m-me getting banned off t-these servers...
The only real hugbox is Goon, where calling someone gay gets you banned

>>734999987
kek
Only server I'm banned from on that list is Splurt

>>735000004
sure thing fag, go on Manuel right now and post just a "h" in OOC (one of the most common accidental OOC messages), then we can start discussing why you think TG is a hugbox

>>734999884
I used to love goon so much man, its such a shame, trannies really do ruin all the fun

>>735000184
It has some nice mechanics but the only thing I kinda miss is pods, space vehicles would make nukie rounds or pirates a lot more interesting

>>735000184
i straight up was too retarded to understand goon, idk why but starting on non-goon servers somehow made it impossible for me, goon was like a weird place where it resembled ss13 but everything was weird and made no sense, piss puddles, hitting someone with a chair 50 times and they stand back up, everyone seemed so busy running around while the bar was full of retards just throwing shit at each other and saying nothing and i had 0 idea what was happening ever

>>734979857
You mean space station tranny?

>>734999936
>also you're wrong, most play on monke
Right now Monke has 45 people playing on their most populous server (and like 60 people when all servers are combined).
14 has a dozen servers with more people up at this very moment. And while there is this gay flag vendor, I have never seen anyone use it whatsoever and the server I frequent have erp strictly forbidden.
Not saying it's perfect, but come on. Also I defenitly agree with the content porblem.

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tg, the wallening...whatever happened there

>>735001491
Yeah but you're playing tranny game

How''s Barotrauma?

>>734996116
Tripping up people and wordlessly pointing at my pristine and clearly displayed wet floor sign while they curse at me and/or get harmbatonned by the security that was chasing them never got old. I'd always keep one of those cleaning bombs handy just to slip the place up in case I ever needed to help out/make things worse.

Linux status? I'm not using a VM just to get my fix, plus i'd probably get autobanned for it.

>intents and tile based movement essential to my love of ss13
>both killed off by troons

So many fond memories of this game. I'm sure it is full of trannies now. Already had a furry infestation way back when.

Guys I can't go 5 seconds without thinking about trannies please help me

>Enjoyed a few stations
>Drama resulting in having to walk on eggshells at all times

>>734996116
>>735001893
I had more fun being a janny than I thought
Being fully determined to keep the floors clean even when the whole station was going down was a surprisingly fun experience, too bad that some fag would often end my fun due to the fact that my job made me a isolated target going into dark and isolated parts of the station.

>>734978796
ss13? its roguetown now buddy

>>735001821
It's good, but only somewhat SS13 like
Devs are working on a DLC that will allow you to actually own and manage a station though, wonder how that will work out though especially with Jovian radiation turned on

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I'm so glad that I caught the period in time of SS13 where it was just a goofy fuckfest on Goonstation
>Smears of shit all over the floors
>People constantly shitting into cups and bowls and throwing it at everyone
>The clown getting shitcurity'd within a minute of the round
>Virologists were pretty much kill on sight every round - traitor or not
>All the while russian roulette is going on at the bar with the doctor, bartender, chef, and greytiders
It's still a fun game, but it lost a piece of its wild soul when things got reeled in

>>734999936
>ran by trannies and fags
So just SS13?

>>735002751
>it lost a piece of its wild soul
The same could be said for the internet as well.

>>734980378
>play

>>735002791
There is something sad about the fact that people used to understand the internet is a place where you can just be yourself and nobody will judge you for being weird
Then social media and youtube brought in normalfags with their cringe culture & obsessing over reputation and one's image
Then corpos kiked all over the place and turned the web sterile ad hell to the approval of normie drones and underages scared of seeing anything not PC

When will people admit that Sseth was the best thing that ever happened to it?
Without him it would have been over much sooner.

>>735002620
>>735001821
Pretty gud, but it really suffers from the fact you can't really edit the sub on the fly. Using an external editor is cringe. Building extra rooms and facilities with wiring and atmos from scratch in SS13 is kino.

>>735003004
he most certainly got a bunch of underage fans into insane furry vore goonerism, yes

>>734992569
is it still good to play?

>>735003004
>admit
I can't think of a person who doesn't blame ssethtide for everything from the influx of fags to bad weather

>>735002012
>Must have a 32 bit prefix. If you don't have one already: WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=relevant/prefix/path wineboot

>WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=relevant/prefix/path winetricks wsh56 wsh57 jscript mfc42 vcrun6

>WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=relevant/prefix/path winetricks allfonts mfc42 gdiplus vcrun2008 vcrun2013 windowscodecs ogg ole32 riched30 msls31 wmp10

>WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=relevant/prefix/path winetricks ie8

>Download BYOND from the website, place .exe in prefixname/drive_c/windows/system32

>WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=relevant/prefix/path wine (VERSION NUMBER)_byond.exe

keep in mind that TG-based shitcode doesn't play well with linux (especially TGUI because it absolutely requires Internet Explorer 11 which AFAIK can't be compatibility layer'd on Linux at all. there's an experimental fix out there someone on - may Allah forgive me for uttering this word - Reddit found but I haven't tested it yet). /vg/station and goonstation run just fine but I believe that the plurality of servers use TGUI. also, I don't believe you'd get autobanned for using a VM; servers just have a problem with VPNs because of their potential utility for ban evading.


SS14 also works fine out of the box on Linux if you're okay with it. if you use that:
>click "options" tab on the bottom of the launch page

>uncheck "seasonal branding" box to remove autogynephile colours from title and icon

>>735002751
when was this? sounds fun
i had fun, but seeing these greentexts i sort of regret only playing /vg/

>used to play on /tg/
>left due to a combination of leftoid infestation and design dogfuckery
>decide to check to see what the player count currently is
>8 (eight) players across all servers
Holy mother of Christ I knew it'd die in the ass but that's even worse than I imagined, especially considering it's the fucking weekend

>>735005639
>currently
yeah its kinda 5 am right now bro

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It's pretty fuckin' dead.
At least the weekly /vg/ events give the server some life for a couple of rounds.

>>735005518
>>uncheck "seasonal branding" box to remove autogynephile colours from title and icon
doing this actually silently flags your account/IP to the devs

>>735005718
ANON IT'S EIGHT FUCKING PEOPLE
Even at the worst of times there used to be at least a couple dozen, especially on a weekend

>>735005518
Interesting thanks
>especially TGUI because it absolutely requires Internet Explorer 11
That's the part I expected to be troublesome. I guess its fine as long as I don't play engineering.

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Remember to eat your floor pills. They build character.

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>>735003008
I'm interested on the game, see that there is a DLC coming, should I buy it now or wait for the DLC to drop and see if it has a discount in a bundle with the DLC? Also is there more games like SS13 out there? Because the only ones I know are that one and, well... SS14 lol.

>>735005784
it's funny you mentioned that because I thought of the potentiality of that exact thing when I found out that was an option; troons are absolutely spiteful enough to do that

Every Knee Shall Bow (to the tranny tricolour)

>>735005863
Fucking off yourself already cairo
Worst AI player we've had, biggest attention whore we've ever had

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>>735005965

As a person attempting to masquerade as a normal member of society, the massively fluctuating pop and undefined round length makes it very difficult to consistently find time for
And then assuming both those things are okay it might just be some ass gamemode or you get killed and shoved in a locker 5 minutes in

>>734984657
LINDA won. ZAS lost.

i'm pomf ask me anything

>>735005863
>fiber pill
Oh cool, thanks, I've been having trouble shi-
*bursts into kudzu*

does ss14 still have rules that forbid servers from being space racist

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>>735006159
Yeah. Devs (Who are all trans, not joking) have full control of all servers that are hosted. If they see shit they don't like, fuck you.

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>>735005965
You got the trooncord ERP channel's attention

>>735001604
Mothcocks got groomed by Roblox management.

>>734980378
probably monke servers

>>735006223
Well, why are you on there?

>>735005965
>>735006223
LOL

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Reminder

Is the schizo who spams AI slop still alive or did he get a job.

>>734978796
The playable alien slippery slope was real. haven't played in a decade and recently felt like giving it a spin and holy shit. Complete furfagmageddon.

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>>735006346
I actually haven't seem him for a couple of threads now, but I assume now that we've mentioned him he'll appear.

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Cairo's feelings were hurt in the ERP channel so pomf had to swoop in and make him feel better

The end of the Waifu Golden Age and the beginning of the Furry and "Husbando" circlejerk actually killed /vg/. People unironically were playing to interact with guys pretending to be girls.

>>735006413
>Sylveon profile pic
Who is this faggot and why should I care

>>735006384
Its amazing how many ss13 schizos exist really
>AI spammer
>VG PEDO VG PEDO VG PEDO
Im sure theres way more.

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This game died long long before the majority of you discord niggers and newfags have even heard about the game.


The fact that this game hasn't been fully depopulated is a travesty in itself.

Real SS13 is dead and SS14 is not a successor. It is full of the most rancid, disgusting types of subhumans on on the internet.

Leave and spend your time playing something that will actually respect your time.

Fuck niggers, Fuck faggots, Fuck trannies,

But most of all:

FUCK FURFAGS.

Would a 3D first person SS13 with built in voice changer be a good idea or should it be kept to the top down bullshit just because it'd be less intimidating for antisocial retards

>>735006441
some fat tranny idk
>>735006447
it's 80% 1 guy and 20% people parroting what the schizo says every now and then

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>>735006441

>>734978796
I'm still mad about SS14
It could have started a great new era for SS if it wasn't made by deranged troons that may block your server if they disagree with its rules

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>>735006584
>some fat tranny

>>735006663
Its inaccurate anyway, fairly certain pomf is just a pokefag. Then again I don't cyberstalk the guy so maybe I'm wrong

>goonstation high pop is now 11
lmao nice deving and moderating tranny idiots

What was the update that pissed you off the most?
For me it was /tg/ butchering chemistry so it was no longer a dumb potion making simulator and instead you had to do autistic PH balancing

>>735006803
Get a job
How many years have you been doing this? 4+?
You could have gotten laid or done anything else.

>>735006832
>no more shitting everywhere like an absolute animal
Joining donut station halfway into a shift and seeing half the lights broken with shit and blood everywhere plus killer tomatoes roaming maintenance was the purest spessman experience.

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>Trannies are in this thread RIGHT NOW

>>735005613
2012ish

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>>735007014
Man, that's when I started playing after watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3-J-bkpvag
I miss him.

Oh christ it's this faggot again

>>735007324
If you ever think you're a loser, remember you're at least not this guy. >>735007156

>>735007360
Nice selfie

>>735006384
>but I assume now that we've mentioned him he'll appear.
Damn you called that one

>>735007404
Seething for 3+ years and dedicating your life to spamming AI slop against a dead server is sad yes
Dunno what mindbroke into doing this. Single mother parenting?

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>>735007463
Fuckin' rule 1 of the internet. Don't feed the troll.
We shouldn't even be talking about him.

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>>734979203
It runs way fucking better nowadays holy shit just thinking about the constant time warp we used to have to endure makes me want to kill myself. Games dead though.

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>>735007593
It's hilarious watching old videos like >>735007292 and seeing the dude having to click five+ times on an item to pick it up. One of the few good changes time has brought to this game.

>>735007524
My bad anon. I just hadn't used these threads in ages.
Sad the /vm/ thread is unusable but that's just the site in general nowadays. Miserable stuff.

>>734999884
I've never played SS13 before, is Ratwood a good one to start with?

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Rippie Hippie.

>>734999987
Pretty sure I got bwoinked for gendered insults recently on either /vg/ or /tg/

>>734992756
>>734997127
admins are uppity faggots
Oh you are blowing the whistle too much? Get banned
Is that a smoke bomb in the alamo? Banned!
Did you just said "bitch" and"retarded" ? Perma banned!

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I would suck a thousand cocks for a copy of admiral hippies clown man videos. I only have two of the very earliest ones

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>>735008106
https://mega.nz/folder/6ZkjmCZI#jW_CC8WHcwjGKYKhJGFAnQ/folder/jZsEDQYK Two, four, and six are in here.

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>>735008156
Oh god you can still hear his smoke alarm chirping in them.

we love the slop

I play Lifeweb I guess

My opinions on SS13's design needs were always correct but nobody ever listened to me

SS13 should play like a game of Rimworld on steroids
Basically the whole point is to keep things going and alive as long as possible while an onslaught of bullshit keeps happening
You make antags relatively plentiful, but you have security be a bunch of massively overpowered roided up judge dredd space marine paladin types that can brutally curb stomp any resistance
Gut everything related to silicon lawsets because forcing people to larp as an autistic asimovbot is a miserable experience for all involved
Have a sort of metagame in having overt station goals every round, probably in the form of some science or mining bullshit that has to be done
For everything else, just expand mechanics horizontally as much as possible so it's just a giant dumb sandbox of meme shit to do
Roleplay happens in the downtime between shit exploding

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>>734978796
Why are there no good SS14 servers?
>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES
Yeah and the original SS13 was goons (prototrannies) until someone leaked the gooncode. This one is open source, you can just make a server without the troons.
>b-but the codebase is run by troons
So what? Every codebase in SS13 was a split from goon too, just fork the damn thing so it's not handled by trannies. If people could do it with ghastly Byond code surely they can do it here? We had /tg/ and /vg/ codebases for years.

I feel like everyone who was around back then has simply moved on, otherwise there'd be at least one good fork already up and running. Moving away from Byond jank was always the dream.

>>735008349
It still exists? Thought randy closed it down

>>735008548
SS13 has the benefit of being a very complex game with a long lifetime
SS14 is too simple and also too unapproachable
SS13 needs a spiritual successor, not an engine rewrite

AI and silicon roles should not exist at all

>>735001491
>And while there is this gay flag vendor, I have never seen anyone use it whatsoever
Anonymous, this sounds like a pathetic way of coping with the fact that you are playing a faggot game.

>>735008589
>SS14 is too simple and also too unapproachable

People like to parrot this but like, as far as I'm aware ss14 is mostly on par with ss13 now, certain shit is missing obviously and some shit is different but also ss14 is the new thing like it's the gonna be the successor.

And also unapproachable? what? it's far more approachable than ss13 even just considering the fact that it's on steam instead of the spooky 1996 game launcher.

>>735008604
I always liked the idea of "droids" kind of like R2D2 where they're kinda like mechanically locked-down versions of various department mainstay jobs
Where they can't really go on a murder rampage for the simple reason that they lack the tools
Have them speak in a language only understandable by people in the same department and also other droids
AI should be gutted entirely but remade into a weird sort of stealth antagonist

>>735008589
>a very complex game with a long lifetime
It didn't start out like that, it took years, yet it was still done on the vile Byond.

However I guess it's also because people would rather just work on their own game nowadays if they've got that kind of time and knowledge. If I wasn't already working on my own game and had the choice between putting years of work into a SS14 codebase fork or my own SS13 spiritual sequel, I would pick the latter 10 times out of 10.

>>735008665
>it's far more approachable than ss13
That's like saying a relatively mild case of cancer is preferable to having your testicles jammed into a blender
SS14 is more robust, but it's still just as obtuse and unapproachable as SS13 is. It's also ugly.

>>735001604
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?!

>>734978796
the thumbnail looks like a Big Black Clown

>>735008753
We do not accept pjb anymore and he does not either, banish the danish troll from botton left.

>>735001604
SS13 was never designed with aesthetics in mind
Even with complete artistic license and full 3D at your disposal I'm not sure how you'd do a remake from a visual perspective
If you do something top-down you lose the personality of the characters
If you have a sort of 3/4ths or isometric perspective you have the issue of wall ornaments being obscured
You could maybe do some weird x-ray shit to highlight interactables or something maybe
Or maybe you could go straight-up first person 3D, but then you run into the question of communication, and voice chat being something that breaks the immersion and poses a barrier to entry
I'm genuinely not sure how this problem could be solved
If I ever figure it out I'd be tempted to make an attempt myself

>>735008872
She was raised on VG, she belongs
Pomf the groomer knew he was a little underage girl. She learned everything from VG. We would not have SS14 today without VG guiding our girl.

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>>735008926
I categorically refute PJB that nigga looks like a norwood 7 tranny fanny fag. He shall forever be the one cunt we tolerated sometimes, and mostly laughed at, and a few times was kinda based.

what the fuck happened to this game
there's no /vg/ general anymore

>>735008995
Schizos killed it.

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>>735008897
>Even with complete artistic license and full 3D at your disposal I'm not sure how you'd do a remake from a visual perspective
What about something like this?

roleplay was the death of ss13. it was never meant to be a roleplay game. roleplaying attracts mentally ill hyper-autistic abhumans who can't function IRL and try to live as a furry anime catgirl in videogames

>>735008995
The /vg/ thread was spammed relentlessly with AI slop by one dedicated shitposter and the mods refused to do anything about it. That, combined with the overall age of the general, caused it to become too slow to live on /vg/.
It moved to the retirement home that is /vm/.

>>735009059
Maybe camera rotation in combination with situational wall transparency would be sufficient
I really do like that simple monocolor toon style

>>735006441
The host of /vg/station

>>734979203
Depends on the codebase, always has. Goon always ran like shit because they rather load the game up with 10,000 effects on every object than have a lagless experience while /tg/ runs as good as it did in 2012

>>735009202
grim

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>>734978796
I don't understand this "game". People that play this like to troll other players? But all the players are trolls? So, how can you enjoy this knowing that there are no "serious" players to mess with?

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>>735009194
Unfortunately these clips were made by a guy who was one of those "I'll totally make it open source once it's presentable guys, trust me!" devs who then just up an vanished off the Internet one day without ever releasing any of it at all. All that exists of it are these clips.

>>735008975
>we kept a little underage girl around for fun teehee

>>735008995
VG admins hate 4chan and moved to discord, then told everyone to not use the thread and will look down on anyone using the thread. This combined with 0 players online lead to no one posting in the thread so the threads died.
They then cope by claiming muh schizo killed the threads.

>>735008975
Well you didn't bully them enough
Right now PJB is pushing for killing dwarves, salvage, Cripple science and fuck with reducing Syndies TC for seemingly shits and giggles

>>735009250
He's been the host since 2013 and doesn't cause any drama with the game since he's mostly absent, so he is at the very least reliable

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>>735009059
>>735009276
The problem with all of these is that they don't scale. It looks cool like this but what happens when you have 32 players (or 64) to whom you must replicate 750 physics objects flying all over the fucking place and colliding with everything (and the 8 player ragdolls that were in there) when the bar depressurizes at the 45th minute of the round?

Oh and all those objects are gameplay relevant, so you can't just handwave is away as "oh just do it clientside and don't replicate it from the server". Player A needs to see that fireaxe in the same place as player B does after the depressurization or all hell breaks loose.

>>735009395
PJB wasn't bullied at all. He was the top coder and admin and discord mod.

>>735009276
I would never want to make a project like this open source, trying to open source tools is great, but trying to open source a game is a shitshow waiting to happen because most people have no idea what the fuck they're doing when it comes to design

I actually had a plan once, make a sort of "single player/co-op" OWSC meme bullshittery game in the style of SS13, then when the audience got big enough, release a free "sister-game" in the form of an SS13 successor
That way there's a basic source of funding but also you get the benefit of being able to draw in an existing audience while still having a low barrier to entry in the form of "it's free"

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>No you can't play SS14!! The mods are trannies, species racism is banned and they don't have intents!!
>You HAVE to play SS13, where the mods are trannies, species racism is banned and they don't have intents AND there is low server pop!!

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I love Vox!

>>735009435
The netcode would be a violent pain in the ass but honestly I doubt it'd be as miserable as it might at first seem from a raw processing standpoint if it was made in an engine that could do math without choking on its own dick
The most miserable part of SS13 performance-wise was always atmos

>>735009541
SS13 is at least decentralized
I choose to play neither

>>735009395
None of those words are in ss13 so I guess I dont care? Bro thats your issue.

>>735009395
I thought pjb had a meltie and left the project like a month ago or something

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>>735009457
What made him like this

>>735009605
>I choose to play neither
Yeah, like everyone who cries when you say you play SS14.

>>735008753
Who's who?

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>>734978796
Play SS14. By women. For women.

>>735009256
Your view of the game at least 10 years outdated. It's VRChat / Second Life now

>>735009676
They took a "Mental health break" after "Constant harassment"
Or in other words, the first push to kill off dwarves and completely disregard their own guidelines for PR pulls went so bad and got so much pushback they went away for a bit, but it's not going to be permanent and if PJB had the gall to lock the thread so no one could disregard their PR push and unbanning some twat that got perma'd because it was his friend you know damn well they're coming back sooner rather than later

>>735009553
>clockwork never came back
>only does okay art as xenopera on twitter now
Big Sad

>>735009763
This meme WILL get your server dehubbed chud.

>>735009735
Is this achievable natty?

>>735009605
>SS13 is at least decentralized
No it's not. All the major servers share ban info so if you're banned from one you end up getting banned from all of them.

Which is the best setting for a game like SS13
>Space Station
>Starship
>Planet Base

>>734991224
/tg/ has the most Reddit cross posters so this tracks

>>735009541
>>735009553
Species should not exist outside of special events or maybe a select gamemode or two.
>>735009572
Nah the calculations are easy, computers are really fast and most of it is easily parallelizable. The bigger problem is replicating all of that to the players while keeping it in sync enough that gameplay remains coherent since all of these objects are gameplay relevant (can be picked up, interacted with, cause damage, etc).

Not impossible, but a pain in the ass.

plasmamen were fun and the only good race played by actually good players

>>735010119
My only experience with a plasmaman was trying to operate on one as a doctor one time
it was unsuccessful

>>735009984
Space Station
>It differs from a starship because it isnt able to just fly off somewhere else, and differs from a Planet Base because you have an "island" where you yourself can't just easily escape because there's no where else to go that could sustain life
>this means the gameplay revolves around a particular locale that steadily degrades as it contends with random bullshit, and both the location itself and the personnel there can't just up and leave
Sure you could design something like a planet base where everywhere but the base is death and or a starship with a fucked up engine, but I think just having a space station is cleaner because it heads stuff like that off at the pass. This is your station, it's not going anywhere until it collapses under its own weight, and neither are you

>>735010119
Every single plasmaman player is a power gamer if the highest degree

I code for one ss13 codebase granted its the original lc13

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>>735009435
>to whom you must replicate 750 physics objects flying all over the fucking place
What are you talking about? What do you mean "replicate"?
What's intensive about physics simulation is doing the actual simulation, not sending that data to the player's client so that it knows what happened.
Not that I'm saying netcode for a physics-based game would be easy, but it's not the sort of thing that scales exponentially with number of players. If a physics engine can handle 4 players, it can handle 40.
Physics-based multiplayer games have been done before. Hell, how many people can you fit into a Gmod server to toss around hundreds of ragdolls?

>>735010321
Let me copy your homework and make LC14, lord knows ss14 is in need of a good server

Is the BPL server on 14 ANY good?
It's the only server that didn't immediately radiate danger vibes, I figure since Tex actually plays there it can't be completely awful, but it's still SS14, and apart from his videos it could still be a hug box shithole for all I know

>>735009887
That's of the free will of the staff of each of those servers, though.
Your neighbors all agreeing that you're a jackass and they don't want to associate with you isn't the same as the government throwing you in prison so that you don't have the option of associating with anyone.

>>735010542
It's alright
As usual it has the one or two cliques who do things on their own and never interact with outsiders but it's far from a hugbox
You want a proper hugbox go to "Delta-V" Although they sell themselves as a more "Beginner friendly" server

>>735010539
None of that is on that scale, and if you don't understand how the hard part is the networking, you need to read up on how things work.

>>735009832
It's a shame, there aren't a lot of people drawing vox these days

>>735008552
There's Lifeweb 2 now and Scorcher

>>735010541
Nah the troons left out code base due to the owner retuning like half a year ago I don't think going to troon infested eaters is a good idea

>>735010119
Plasmaman players desperately wanted people to believe this so bad but they all just ended up looking like gay retards high on their own farts

>>735008548
>>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES
Unironically, trannies
The problem is that they decide which servers are acceptable and which ones aren't. The only ones who get a pass are russian servers because since they speak russian the troon devs can't bother applying the same rules to them

>>735008589
>SS13 needs a spiritual successor, not an engine rewrite
You got Barotrauma but it's not the same
Some of the things that make SS13 fun come from the autistic level of complexity

stationeers, while being gay and shit and not opensource has some engi/atmos/botany mechanics, but not much else

>>735009092
>roleplay was the death of ss13
Go play low RP servers then you retard
Most servers that make SS13 what it is had some level of roleplay involved, even if light

>>735010640
That sounds like something I can work with. I'm pretty decent at interjecting into stuff IC. Only reason I haven't tried that BPL server yet is it wasn't public.
I'd just stick to /vg/ due to not completely fuckoff admins, freedom of speech, and public logs, but I can only help with deadpop so much before I get incredibly bored of it. I don't have the compulsion to shout gamer words on comms, but it's still a weird ass thought seeing many servers now forbid alien racism even

>>735009092
Nigga roleplay is just about being able to act the part of an imagined persona. It doesn't mean that persona has to be a gay space furry. Half the best stories of ss13 are about people roleplaying as some silly shit like a janitor who just wants to keep his hallways clean or a clown pranking people or whatever.

>>735012178
This.
If there's ZERO roleplay, then what the hell is everyone supposed to do while they wait for the antagonist to show himself so the crew can collect their valids?

>>735012213
>but I can only help with deadpop so much
It still gets decent pop a couple times a week, doesn't it? I haven't played (on any server) in a very long time, but that's the impression I get from seeing the occasional announcement and such.

>>735009092
You're complaining about non-emergent roleplay, which is the kind of shit you can find on furry ERP servers that have no core gameplay loop and tell you to come up with your own fun. In a standard SS13, game mechanics encourage you to roleplay, at least until you find out how to break the game completely.

>>735010793
>Lifeweb 2
Looks cool, how aids is the applying process?
Do you need to be some guys eboyfriend or are they chill about it?

>>735012029
>The problem is that they decide which servers are acceptable and which ones aren't.
It's an open source project, they don't decide shit. At most they decide what goes on the default server browser, but pretty much every 4chan server for SS13 avoided being listed like that because it attracts greytiders and retards.
>Russian
This is a real life hack though, learn Russian and you can just play with them and be immune to troons. You just have to learn to deal with the slav ragetard outbursts every now and then.

>>735012374
Generally if you know some people adjacent to the community they're fine
Lots of them crossplay on other servers so it shouldn't be too hard to find

>>735012731
>At most they decide what goes on the default server browser
They also handle the account system, though. If they decide to be petty enough, they could block your server from being able to authenticate users and require that you host your own account system instead.

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>>735012731
>At most they decide what goes on the default server browser

They can and have blocked servers from using auth. Any server that tracks usernames goes through the single, central auth server. This means you need to go to an entirely different steam listing with a different auth, or you will be unable to authenticate staff, notes etc, and bans via UID, which gets very difficult very fast if you have more than a single admin and a handful of players.

You can decide on your own whether that's too much extra work or not but I figure people should have the full context.

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>>735012921
>>735012916
Oh and also this auth system means that they are able to log onto your server with admin perms if they want to, since they are who the server uses to verify identity. Given past behavior like the Jesse Rougeau warez stuff I personally find this a bit concerning.

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>>735012896
>Generally if you know some people adjacent to the community they're fine
Welp
The issue is that I'm chronically autistic and refuse to interact with the community beyond ingame. I know how most of you fuckers act. Getting involved with you people is a zero sum game.
Makes getting into Lifeweb or other sekrit clubs impossible but hey, at least I don't have to put up with the most cancerous fucks imagineable. I don't know how other people can stand it

>>735012916
>>735012921
>>735012997
100 bucks and interfacing with Steam's auth system would not be much of a problem compared to forking the codebase and maintaining your own version without all the tranny flags, furfag races, moderating the server, and whatnot. The problem is most normal people are simply going to do something else with their time and effort, which is why all these things are infested by trannies: they're the only ones terminally online and mentally ill enough to bother doing all this work for free since their own sanity and life hinges on being able to (E)RP a woman in a 2D spaceman game.

The best bet is the Russians having had enough to the trannies and making their own version, but then it's gonna be in Russian, and this is also probably why the trannies don't bother the Russians.

>>735012997
Oh yeah that's no bueno with the average mental stability of these fags.

>>735005863
Why did you post this pornographic character

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>>734979203
A server I play on just recently implemented atom sliding and ungunked oldcode so that everyone moves like 30% faster with less lag after 10+ years of 2014-era movement. It genuinely just depends.

>>735013245
> interfacing with Steam's auth system would not be much of a problem
Yeah given how banhappy the community is I am not linking my steam account and getting it slapped with ban notice like Amazon did to Lost Ark.

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>/vg/ dead
>/tg/ trooned out
>CM is now a giga troon hugbox
>SS14 ran by trannies
Our time has passed, spessman...

>>735010639
>it's a private company chvd, they can do what they want

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>>735013430
Why not just quit your job, troon out, move in with your parents / your new discord polycule and join them?

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>>734992569
Yeah. It's a shame that it's been infested by trannies.
>>735003361
It's okay, but it's also very cookie cutter now. There's not much room for creativity in roles besides OT, Research (both of which have been heavily nerfed because xenos are whiny faggots), and squad engineer.
If you want to just shoot bug then yeah it still holds up

>>735012356
It feels like it's steadily gotten worse as far as pop goes. I can't check there every day, nor will I, but there are a few where player count doesn't ever break past 20. And ingame that's counting people who are just ghosts or in the lobby, not actual crew.
The admins have tried hosting weekly events this month, and they actually rake in the player count so far. The first two were good at least, not perfect but good. But it looked like a lot of people left right after so retaining pop still seems a big issue. Coulda just been because most of these events so far ended late enough at night though.
Yesterday was a thunderdome event more geared towards euro hours, didn't have as much people I heard but it still happened and people were fine with it

>>735010639
You are ignorant of how these people work if you think banlists are a good thing especially for a game infested as SS13/SS14 is.

>the people that spend all their time in the gay furry roleplay channel of the /vg/station discord are also the people constantly whining about le trannies
One of the funniest dissonances I've witnessed

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You can't even say retard or other low level perjoratives without some dumbshit powertripping tranny muting you. I got back onto tg like two or three years ago and it was still decent but the admins did everything in their power to kill the playerbase within the past year or so, from the wallening to banning well known regulars over completely asinine shit, which in turn made other people leave over the blatantly dogshit shotcalling.

Also I'm still mad the paintings database got nuked.

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>>735013837
/vg/ died over a decade ago. It's honestly a little sad to see how bad it's gotten in the thread and on the server

>>735013430
That era has passed anon, most who were playing back then have moved on, and anyone who would code for it isn't going to do so for some tranny server owner.

If we get a spiritual sequel is might happen again, but until then it's over.

i liked ss13 when it felt like a research space station full of nerds which sometimes had a Home Alone-style DIY war against syndicate agents. somewhere along the line it became a strange place where 50% of the station was devoted to a military force led by a head of security with an anime trenchcoat and 8 paragraphs about how xhe is a transwomyn cambodian special forces member.

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>>735013886

SS13 suffered the same fate as all old-but-still-popular games like TF2: the people who stick around playing it all day are obviously deeply nonfunctional and mentally ill, and they boil away any sane newcomers, so it's a self-reinforcing descent into transgender pedophilia.

>>735007937
Fuck no.

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Are there any good SS13 servers remaining that are akin to old /vg/? Or is it sadly a different era now?

>>735013983
Gay baby status confirmed
Mods = fags, one of the eternal truths of the internet

Its shit, the game wont get better because the only people who host servers/have knowledge of hosting servers are retards who think they know whats best despite it being the opposite of what people actually want, the ones with servers that have high player counts giving up on making anything better and the ones with player counts below 50 coping and going "ACTUALLY 20 PLAYERS IS REALLY GOOD!!!" despite their constant malding about the high pop servers.

Roguetown faggots have also took the hub over, same faggots who ran Skyrat/Fallout 13 troon servers/Shitadel and unless you want fart huffer Baron or child Molester Useroth as your host (you dont) good luck, the only one who isnt part of that crowd is the host of Vanderlin/Monkestation who goes on reddit for praise and basedboy points whilst being a faggot 10 viewer andy streamer who hosts the servers as an income stream to pay his child support but faggots here are just as bad and will go "WOOO WE LOVE OOK" unironically supporting that reddit loving faggot.

Also any server you do get that has any form of maybe being good will get infested with trannys that will gland-hand until they become admin and then go full stalin mode then ruin the server.

The playerbase isn't much better either, they will all bitch and moan to implement shit like age verification, acting like its a good thing to take a picture of your ID to send to a tranny admin who most certainly will use it against you in the future.

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>>735014195
I've been through way too many pedofile outings since I've played CM. There was one, (I forgot his name) who had the yingling avatar who got fragged after he was exposed in round.
I can confirm CM mods/admins are massive trannies.
Also I'm still pissed off that the USCM flag defense item is still the tranny flag, anyone who asks them to revert it back is then banned for "hatespeech" or whatever

>>735014301
the original creator of colonial marines Apophis775 was outed as a shotacon pedophile who also happened to be a teacher irl

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>>735014354
Oh damn is that why Apop left? I thought he got doxxed by someone.
God damn what is with this fucking server

everyone in this thread is the most fucking boring insufferable loser oh my god
you got banned, get over it and self reflect instead of going "ITS LE TRANNIES" fucking idiots.
the person who got banned for ragebaiting an admin is funny tho

only played ss13 like 5 times btw

>>735014119
It's over, unironically.

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>>735014408
he hired a PR firm to scrub it off the internet

back when it originally was blowing up, he nearly succeeded at getting reddit mods to totally censor it

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>>735014489
>using the same exact username for something like that
What an actual retard lmfaooooooo

>>735014436
>only played ss13 like 5 times btw
I believe you :)

>>735014436
It is the trannies and I have the logs to prove it from the admin chat of one of the most popular SS13 servers, cope all you want but in the end its always troons that are the problem.

>>735013570
They're not even companies. They're literally just groups of people.
Groups of people can do what they want.

>>735013685
I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying it's not the same thing as "centralized".

>>735013685
quit being naive, he's clearly one of them.

>>735014408
It really all went downhill after Feweh was ousted didn't it

What the fuck is all this clique shit I thought this was an ss13 thread

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>>735014704
Ever since CM did pridemonth faggotry and removed the word "retard" we've been in the death spiral

>>734992569
Permabanned for lowrp (last straw was me firing m56d in brief)

>>735010639
Troon hivemind is still shit for the general playerbase and if it werent SS13 wouldnt be constantly losing players due to that shit.

>>735014745
You can't discuss the precipitous decline of SS13 without bringing up clique drama

>>735013983
>not just calling him a faggot and leaving

The sad part is, I could tolerate their rampant degenerate faggotry if they only weren't such rampantly incestuous power-hungry hypocrites

More than half of the servers want discord verification to play there. Fuck off with that shit, I am not doing that shit until I see the server for myself.

>>735014850
I can't even tell which community you're talking about at this point.

i haven't had any problems with ss14 besides dumb servers requiring discord whitelisting
Simply running much better is good enough for me
Really like the shadows too

>>735014919
I'm talking about trannies, anon.

Nox Station

perhaps if you retards actually played ss13 and helped with administration, then this would not have happened.
of course the terminally online trans will take it over if nobody else will
if, another ss13 successor comes, it's your DUTY not to let it happen again.

>>735014904
They want you to send them your ID so they can hold it over you like some form of leverage, they pretend its "FOR THE KIDS!!!" but in reality they dont give a fuck about that.

>>735014983
>perhaps if you retards actually played ss13 and helped with administration, then this would not have happened.
it happened because the playerbase begs for tranny admins and their forms of enforcement, the whole fucking thing is doomed from the get-go

>>735014983
This shit is a game, not a job. I do not give a fuck about being an online jannie.

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>>735012374

Most of the old heads stopped playing fagweb long ago, not even fagweb 2 brought the influx of old fags back. The population is still comprised mostly of Brazilian neets.


Real ss13 and its community died long ago. Its time to move on.

>>735013152
>The issue is that I'm chronically autistic and refuse to interact with the community beyond ingame.

You are not the type of player that the hideout wants, they want autistic neets that spend the day 24/7 on the discord and metacomming friends that groom each other on alt cords.

Old traditional SS13 RP is dead, I'm telling you. uninstall byond and pick up and actual game, there are plenty of other niche online RP communities to play on. Anything byond and trannystation 14 coded is anathema.

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>>735014748

>>735014983
Leftists are really fucking good at kissing ass and climbing the social ladder
It's almost impossible to beat them when you're trying to appeal to a normie admin

>>735014408
Named my sentry Bugnigger sweeper back in 2018 they deemed it ooc

>>735014748
Well I recently called an atmos a retard on 14 and didn't even get bwoinked.

>>735015103
Don't remind me. We still have the JIMA Planted Flag as the tranny flag, and no one touches the code to revert it back to the USCM flag because you'll be publicly shamed as a "hateful bigot" or whatever.

>>735015136
Why would you admit to being more insufferable than the leftist trannies you hate so much

What was your favorite round ending?
>bangin' donk
>APC destroyed
>what the Rock is cooking

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>>735014983
>>735015068
This is the problem seen all over the internet since 2014 or so. You need someone to put in a considerable share of (if not all of) their free time and sometimes more for some online community that will not pay or tangibly reward you anytime soon, most likely ever.

It's not that trannies are terminally online and become admins due to that, it's that the terminally online sad sacks of shit that would waste their life on this are the ones BECOMING trannies.

The tranny plague is like a drug epidemic, not an infectious pathogen epidemic: it only affects those whose life was already fucked up enough to start engaging in it.

>>735014408
Goonstation also has the dabbing mechanic, along with chemicals that force you to dab at varying levels of power. To make them, you need to dab (this has a chance to delimb you), then extract the liquid dab from your bloodstream. If you mix this with a shitload of other rare chemcials you can get "Extreme dabs". It's not lethal but the moment one drop of this gets in someone they instantly dab both of their arms off.
One traitor round I made some, injected traitor stimulants (6 minutes of near-invulnerability but you have a heart attack afterwards) I ran around stabbing people with the chem. Limbs flew everywhere and Security was powerless to stop me. Over half of the station had no arms, so there was no choice but to call the shuttle. The most destruction I have ever caused without actually killing anyone

>>735015218
It's not about being insufferable
It's about the fact that leftist trannies are experts at subversion
If you play a neutral game you get outmatched
The only way you can beat them is to have leadership that doesn't give a fuck about them

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>>735014968
Majority of the underages here were not old enough to even use a computer when that server was still up. Don't kid yourself.

>>734978796
wtf is this shit

>>735015314
>It's almost impossible to beat them when you're trying to appeal to a normie admin
This literally just means you're less likable than them. Please learn English Comprehension before using these words in a sentence.

>>735014849
He obviously wanted to stay but genuinely and unironically even if I wanted to play I would have gone scorched earth on that faggot mod if that shitheel ever tried to speak that way to me.There is literally no world where playing a fucking video game is worth betraying my right to independent thought and speech. It's why I just always communicate using a third party platform that the troons don't control, and why every game has basically nobody using ingame chat anymore

Thank god I'm Russian so there are wtill sensible servers

*raises paw*
Can anypony share my soulful slop with my friends on /vm/? I've been locked out of the board

>>735014983
ss13 needed less janitors, not more.
A server has never been ruined by having too little moderation, but every single server was eventually ruined by too much of it.

>>735015447
its not about comprehension its about a lack of self reflection

>>735015447
It doesn't, but you are going to try desperately to see what you want to see, not unlike the ritual you go through every time you catch yourself in the mirror and try to convince yourself you actually pass.

>>735015447
not him, but I think you misunderstand what he is saying
take /tg/ for example
it gradually moved the goalpost as trans admins who got elected as headmins would say they respected the existing culture
in a spawn of 2 years, filters got put in place and all funny players got perma'd (miss you Canelo)
now you log into /tg/ and only people that play are literal NPCs without flavor
SS14 has an even more insufferable culture plagued by people who should've been contained to VRChat

>>735015678
this coming from the person with a reflection ugly enough to crack mirrors

>>735015218
>>735015447
Mentally ill subhuman trans pedophiles coping.
Troons are not more likable. They are more shameless asskissers. Troons will say anything to get power. BLM? All for it. Oh you want 1488 gas the kikes? That's me tehe. Feminism? Oh yeah bro I am a massive feminist. Suck up to the host, flirt with him, stalk him, back up everything he says. Anything to get in ''power'' and then when they have it they reveal their true pedo groomer selves.
I would never be able to do this. I will not suck up to some guy just because he hosts a server. I tell people what I think and that upsets people with ''power.'' I don't even want to be an admin. I'd have to straight up tell the host that I am applying only to keep the troons out but by the time this becomes a problem it's too late.

>>735015820
I like how this poster got the idea for this swell zinger just as he scrolled past >>735015698 and began thinking of his experience with mirrors.
Why are leftoids so wholly incapable of independent thought?

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One of the most 'ino slops if I dare say so meself
https://vocaroo.com/1lyEsz3FogXd

In theory, whats stopping me from making my own SS13 clone with some changes
>3d environment
>low poly graphics and heavy optimization to maximize performance and large player counts
>open source to make adding custom content easy
>dedicated servers
>everything being modular from station parts to appliances
I'm sure someone has tried to make their own ss13 clones before, whats the catch?

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Still waiting for someone to create a single player version of SS13 with AI controlled bots instead of real players

>>735016728
>what's the catch?
the entire atmospherics system

>>734980378
sorry, no newfags are invited

>>735016728
yeah its been tried multiple times, everything you listed in fact
the catch is it takes years to develop, one man can hardly do it himself and usually isnt talented enough, autism can only take you so far

>>735016728
There are too many features for a solo dev to make. Even if you can make them, you can't playtest them all in every edge case like a playerbase can do playing the same game 24/7 for a decade.
When you have 30 players online there is one mentally ill incel who only plays barman so he knows every single bug and feature of the barman role, he knows if there is some obscure bug or issue, something you would never be able to figure out yourself.

The only way you can really make a SS13 clone is to develop the tools to make a game and have it open source, only providing a server list and the tools to make the game.

>>735001604
The only explanations I can think of for TG coders trying so hard to push that is that
1. they were huffing their farts and genuinely thought it would be the greatest thing ever despite making the game practically unplayable
2. they genuinely hate the game and its playerbase and are intentionally trying to ruin it and make people stop playing
and I think it's the latter because the wallening wasn't a one-off thing, it was just another episode in a long line of PRs that change or remove to the detriment of people's enjoyment but keeps pushed anyways despite feedback. Admins are definitely in on it to, with how they've perma'd beloved players for the flimsiest reasons and changed policy to make classic SS13 behavior bannable.
If it came out that the top TG admins and coders were conspiring to kill the server, I would not be surprised. How else do you fucking go from regularly having hundreds of players on at once to barely getting any in just a couple of years?

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>Noob engineer kills himself like a little bitch because he couldn't set up the engine
>Me and other engineers laugh and make jokes about it while we stare at the engine delaminating.
Peak engineer gaming.

>>735002012
>>735005518
VMs can be an issue because of the way BYOND generates CID which is what servers use to check if people have been using alts on the same computer. Most unconfigured VMs are going to be using the same CID which is the main tell that someone is playing on a VM and will usually get you banned quickly on some servers because they'll automatically think you're an evader.
If you are using a Windows VM you should see if your VM setup has an option to change the serial number of the virtual hard drive since that's one of the things BYOND uses to hash your CID. Of course you should run some BYOND code to check and see if that actually changed your CID to something random before logging onto servers to play.

I mainly didn't like content bloat and content islands

>>735016728
completing it

>>735016846
i can hypothesize this:
a % based system that checks if a room is sealed and determines pressure and oxygen in a given room which depletes depending on the size of a breach.
otherwise have the game take place somewhere that's not in space, like the surface of another planet or deep underground.
>>735017103
good point, creating a simple base and have servers add content onto them seems like the best approach for such a game, that way a solo dev can prioritize his efforts on polishing core features and creating tools to make it easier for server owners to integrate or expand content.

>>735014062
Which server is?

>>735007937
You should kill yourself, the last thing we need is another furfag ERP player and not someone who wants to play classic spessmans

>>735016735
it'll happen when you code it
this game is too complex for NPC bots to play and LLMs wouldn't be able to play because everything is real-time and not everyone has the money to run dozens of models for one round of spaceman

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>>735008548
I have a whole text document of ideas for a new codebase and I have all of the time in the world, but I've fried my dopamine receptors so hard I find it hard to work on anything.
>>735013942
There is demand, and this thread proves it. The issue is nobody is taking up the mantle. I have no clue how those troons have the fortitude to work on these hobbies. Maybe cutting your dick off is a 5d chess move because you can't jerk off anymore and instead focus that time on doing crap.

>>735017973
Nah your autistic gatekeeping attempt won't work on me, worthless niggerfaggot

>>735018197
>There is demand, and this thread proves it.
There's absolutely not
/vg/station isn't perfect but it still has most of what posters were complaining about being taken away i.e. the ability to say slurs, no shitty nu-TG code changes, generally relaxed escalation rules, etc.
If people actually wanted all that they would just play on /vg/station
Also there have been numerous attempts in the past from people trying to make 'based' servers split from other servers and codebases like TG that allow slurs and greytiding and shit but those never take off.
I don't think people actually miss a 'golden era' of SS13, instead they probably just miss being younger, otherwise they would be putting more effort into bringing back that golden era or playing on servers that offer a similar experience.

>>735018630
>if you don't play on VGpedo station you don't want to play SS13! VG is heckin' perfect dude, just play with such amazing players as Taylor Swift the bar tranny and Bob Turning furry fetishist, and such amazing admins as Kromkar and Yvvel, two mentally ill pedophile freaks
>bro this server is heckin' peak dude, Deitytroon added drawing so every tile is covered in tumblr memes, Nintendo and trans flags, this is friggin' epic

>>735018197
>I have no clue how those troons have the fortitude to work on these hobbies.
Because it's life and death for them. If they're not able to create a safe space where they can pretend to be women and force everyone else to agree, they're going to jump off a bridge.

the game is WOKE now

>>735018912
You didn't disprove his point?

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Characters should be randomly generated each round.
There are way too many people who are basically just their OC no matter the role or job each and every round.

>>735019352
Kinda agree
or at least names should be
Moreso cause of metacliquing than anything
and not even from like a "metafriends gang up on you" thing cause I've found that uncommon but more cause of the thing where metafriends or whatever don't really even intereact with you if they don't fucking know you, like don't attempt to rp anything at all
this has been my biggest ss13/14 issue i've found, it's annoyingly common

>>735019662
This is what made me gave up the game really
If you aren't their meta discord ekitten they will just give you the flouride stare.

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>>735018630
I'm not purely talking about the language filter or being able to play lrp. I shouldn't speak for others, but I'm still looking for
>comfy
>doing job
>interact with others
>antag chaos
>no autistic grief
>no breathing on your neck for wrongthink
>some fun RP
>new mechanics (vg nostalgiafags btfo)
Even if it were a small personal server, I'd still like to try my take on it.
vg will stay lowpop because it's not trying to bridge the gap to get new blood through normalfags. Servers like monkey, fulp or paradise were there to take the place because nothing else was. Now in the long run, they're bleeding people because troonmins.
This is a niche game and you aren't getting new players out of thin air. When the old blood is gone, it's done. We're seeing this happen until a new influencer surges the game in popularity. Then the cycle repeats.

>>735020148
Yeah, no other issue with space station has bothered me as much as that one
For a long time I thought it was just other people not trying to go along with whatever thing I was trying to do like build a wacky stupid thing or get a story as a reporter but then I started seeing other people mention what exactly this was and it made me realize I had been running into it when I had no idea what it was.
It's generally worse the more niche a server is and it also made me realize why some stations at similar pop levels feel deader than others cause some have big or particular bad friendgroups that don't really interact with you and also either deal with antags or station problems so coordinated that either they resolve it before you ever get to interact with it or the stations done for, no inbetween, and this tends to lead to stations with massive shifts where nothing happens cause the friends all resolve it super fast without your help and keep fucking recalling evac even thought the round is like 2 hours deep

>>735019352
>>735019662
Statics can be pretty fun to play with when done right. Some people play genuinely funny or interesting characters every round.
I agree that a lot of them are pretty annoying or bland though. I don't think forcing random characters for all players is the right thing to do but this is unironically one of things admins should be proactive in bwoinking people for, maybe forcing them to play random characters if they only play with their meta clique or have an obnoxious donut steel OC.

>>735019352
people (furries/scalies) sperg the fuck out if you fuck with their character in any way shape or form

>>735007292
Plump was great and also my gateway to SS13 back in the day.
I did give it a fair shot before his videos, but could never really get into it before watching him play.
Surreal to think it's been such a long time already.

>>735008995
they banned me and so I told God to kill this game

>>735020730
>>735020849
There should be an admin recommendation to cause misfortune for meta and clique players to deal with it. They aren't really breaking any rules from an outsider pov, but making another complex rule will shit up reputation.

>>735014489
>please delete
kekaroo