>make Dragon Quest Builders 2 but with Pokemon>critic reviews, user reviews, and sales are all way higher despite being the same or worse game with a different coat of paintWhy is this allowed?
>worse game>takes out the AWFUL dqb combat and goes all in on the good aspects of the game
>>734985515Literally exact same thing happened with the Mystery Dungeon series, though PMD pretty much perfected that formula (as well as the DQB formula tbqhwy.)
>>734985515It's a good game
I don't believe you played neither DQB2 nor Pokopia to be quite honest with you
>>7349858434pbpSchizo wars are retarded
It's not the same or worse though. It's objectively better even removing the pokeskin. You are a pathetic miserable non game playing fag who has to hate on new thing because you can't feel genuine joy
cram it questy!!
>>734985515Is this actually like dqb2? I thought it was an animal crossing clone
>>734985961Its both. Its dragon quest builders new horizons laptop edition
>>734985910>pokemon themed reskin of a game>new thing
>>734986094thanks for proving his point.Yes it is new, and as others told you the building aspect was greatly improved upon.Stay mad. Poornigger.
>>734985843exactly, the shitpost for this game is pathetic. /v/ used to play the games they shitpost about
Poor Sylveon, she is homeless...
>>734986521that Glaceon couldn't possibly eat all that shaved ice ... its way too much for her!
>>734985961and viva pinata clone
>>734986521you should put Sylveon's food in snorlax's home and not let Sylveon have any.
>>734986650A balanced diet for a balanced butt
>>734986485they can't play it because the switch 2 isn't hacked and there won't be an emulator any time soon.
It's too shallow
>>734985515wow it's almost like themes and marketing mattermost people don't even know about dragon quest builders
>>734985961it's made by the same devs
Reminder that you don't have to like every single game. There are different genres for different people.
>>734986795That's mean
>>734985515the skin is important in this kind of game and 3 people outside japan have played dragon quest
>>734985693to be fair, PMD basically perfected the formula and PMD1+2 had good stories, with 2 arguably being the best story of any pokemon media
>>734985515Pokefaggots are goycattle
>>734985515>Switch exclusiveFuck that I'm still not buying a Switch.I want Dragon Quest Builders 3 on Steam already.
>>734997272What's Omega Force going to do next? Dragon Quest Builders 3? Pokopia 2? Or Pokopia DLC?
>>734997427Pokopia DLC was leaked in the Pokémon Teraleak. You can find descriptions of the areas planned for the game, ones that made it into the base game and some that may be DLC. DQB2 had a season pass, so I anticipate Pokopia will as well. I don't see Pokopia getting a sequel this console generation.DQB3 could happen, but I'm not holding my breath, I think we're more likely to get a Builders type game with another IP.
>>734985515Nintendo Bonus, that's why. No, I don't care that TPC is technically only a third owned by Nintendo, it's a Nintendo exclusive owned partially by Nintendo and considered Nintendo for all intents and purposes.
>>734997427Based on the Pokopia leaks before the game came out, they're going to continue releasing updates for every town in Kanto. It looks like they're planning on having this game be like Animal Crossing where it has a very long tail with lots of updates. According to this chart they'll be end up doubling the content of what's already available by the time they're all done.
>>734986485>>734987201Exactly. The trolls don't have a Switch 2 but they would love to emulate this game because they're all closet tendies here. Everything about this game is sour grapes posting and contrarianism. I've seen very little in the way of an honest critique, not that the game is flawless (no game is) but by golly it's got a lot going for it.
>>734985515>make Dragon Quest Builders 2 but with shit literally anyone actually cares about
>>734985515BRRAAAAAND
>>734997935Kino. I've only just started exploring the fourth area and I've been playing the shit out of it
>>734997935This would be awesome, this game is honestly phenomenal. My biggest complaint is the number of areas, although it's honestly more than enough to play around with but based on the number of gates I was surprised (I thought the ones that eventually lead to the sky world were individual worlds)
>Dragon Quest Builders is successful>Pokemon company contacts the devs for a spinoff>it's successful>everyone's happy>this triggers the autist
>>734997729>I think we're more likely to get a Builders type game with another IP.What are some other IPs that would make for a good builders game? I was skeptical of the formula myself not being big on Minecraft but I now understand it's its own thing even if they share similar concepts.
>>734985515Dragon Builders 2 was gay because your butt buddy was with you at all times. I can just wander around as Ditto and do whatever I want without needing some autismo lagging behind since Ditto can learn all the other Pokémon's moves.
This game has done more to get me re-interested in Pokemon than any mainline Pokemon game in 15 years.
>>734998082There's always one of these niggas, most people just tune them out
>>734998095Nintendo-wise? Maybe Pikmin
>>734998146follow-up post to this one but I honestly feel that Nintendo should keep this solely as a Pokemon game though. Pokopia 2 would be great and they could continue through each gen. If they released different franchises as DQ Builder games it would probably get old fast
>>734998115Buddies weren't that much of a problem you could just completely ignore them. They'd either die in the distance or immediately respawn on your block if they couldn't pathfind to it.Out of all issues I had with DQB2 being level/tool gated by the story was my biggest complain. Or that fucking useless Alcatraz chapter, befriending mobs was a complete useless mechanic.
>>734998192Good point. I can't imagine wanting to play multiple different types of builder/animal crossing like games in one generation. It would need to do something novel to make the gameplay more gamey and less comfy/buildy which would go against the spirit of the type of game. I think expanding on the first game is a good idea and you know they're probably planning more stuff with how the game has caused a new surge of demand, selling out in stores and actually pushing Switch 2 systems
>>734985693Shiren the Wanderer's dungeon design is blander than NetHack which came out in the 80s. Adding Pokemon mechanics on top of it at least gives it a better deal of novelty to push it into being the Halo of roguelikes.
>>734998284absolutely, best-case for me is free updates. of course paid DLC would be okay, but I would love to see some kind of continuous free update cadence with the game to keep people talking about it for at least 1-2 years. I think it would help sell Switch 2s as well and keeping pokemon in-focus until winds/waves comes out should be top priority. Obviously the Switch 2 has faltered compared to the Switch 1 (which was a hit due to the novel hardware, impossible to recreate now), if Nintendo can lean into this game I think they could correct-course. Will they? I guess that's TBD
>>734985515>Make Doom 2 but with Duke Nukem>Reviews are different because it isn't actually the same gameWhat's the point of writing something so stupid, OP?
>>734986650tell me that glaceon is edited
>>734985515No it improved on the best part of DQB (the actual building) and took out all the shitty parts (the lolcow combat).You lost.
>>734998556The point is to bait in (You)s, and you just gave him one. It's a vacuous statement to artificially spur discussion and bait out angry comments like yours. You think just because it's the weekend OP stops being a faggot or something?
>>734997935>cutting Celadon city>no Cerulean city, Rock tunnel, Mt.Moon and Lavender town>no Victory Road and E4>no Cinnabar Island and Seafoam Islands
>>734985515Dragon quest will never be relevant.
Pokopia is better than DQB2, and I say this as a Dragon Quest fan. The way the game utilizes NPCs is way more enjoyable, and they finally realized that combat is just a shitty formality in DQB/Minecraft and found a way to structure the game without it.>>734985693I can't agree with this one though. PMD is like babies first Mystery Dungeon. Well I guess it's a step above Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon, but it's still for babies who need the carrot of permanent progression.
>>734985961DQB2 is an Animal Crossing clone
as someone that actually played and beat the game, this legitimately has a chance at being goty.
>tfw I recognize this game is peak but I'm so fucking burnt out with building shit after the Switch 2 Animal Crossing update.
>>734998264>befriending mobs was a complete useless mechanic.Bitch what? You can ride a golem and FUCKING PUNCH mountains to rubble.
>>735002069Are you talking about goty for youself personally? Or goty for geoff's Game Awards? If it's the latter, that will not happen. As long as Nintendo continues to show them its ass, no game on their platforms will ever get a goty.
>>734998995My only complaint with the building in both DQB1&2 was it took to long to build stuff. Games should have had some kind of custom blueprint where you could go into it and build stuff with no limits and when you'd done, could just plop your finished blueprints anywhere so long as you have the materials. Like you could have premade walls and rooms already ready without having to waste in game days to build.
>>735002260>Games should have had some kind of custom blueprint where you could go into it and build stuff with no limits and when you'd done, could just plop your finished blueprints anywhere so long as you have the materials.You literally can make custom blueprints.
>>735002152Which is useless because of the 1st reason. By the time you can use the golem, outside of story, you already have a full upgraded hammer.If you really want to push it then mayyybe the fast riding animals could be considered useful, but then again you're only going to use them once to scan for any remaining blocks you have to unlock in the RNG islands.
>>735002306>By the time you can use the golem, outside of story, you already have a full upgraded hammer.Which can still only clear one 3x3x3 space at a time.
>>735002291Huh, I must have missed that then. Been awhile since I played either games. How?
Playing this game made me realize how insane it is that Minecraft has almost no decoration items even after all this time.
>>734985515It isnt a worse game, its by all means DQB3. Also, a pokemon spinoff selling better then a DQ spinoff?!?!?!?!? Wawawaaaat?
>>735002356I'm pretty sure it still wasn't worth it from memory.To be honest I can't tell you exactly why since I played the game like 5 years ago, but there was something that made using the Golem just unpractical. That is, unless you specifically want to use it to smash a mountain like you said I guess but it's not something you'd need to do more than once. Or did you just razed your home island to ground zero or something?
As someone who has played both dragon quest builders games as well as pokopia I don't think they're as similar as people here try make them out to be
>>735002495They are, and you can easily tell it's made by the same developers.The only difference is pokopia doesn't have combat but that was dogshit anyway so no loss
>>735002551So they are different. No combat = not dqb.
>>735002578This. The combat was a bit braindead but it was still combat. Without it you might as well just call Poketopia an Animal Crossing clone so a game for women.
>>734997935so that was JUST Saffron then, huh, all the celadon hints and their proximity had me think it was Celdaon and Saffron with their elevation being from them basically getting smashed together... why would the Game Corner be in Saffron?
>>734998117it's genuinely the most interesting depiction of Kanto I've ever seen, which leads me to believe Kanto-Lovers AND Kanto-Haters can find something to enjoy.
>>734985693Mystery Dungeon/Shiren was basically unknown outside of Japan and weaboos and most of them never released in english either
>>734985515>despite being the same or worse gameI appreciate that you added this line.This outs you as a butthurt ex-pokefag that still whinges about it every little thing who doesn't even know shit about DQB.Enjoy getting shit on for another console cycle.
This is why pokemon spinoff sucks. Every fucking time people shit on the orginal games.
>>>/vp/
>>734986376mariel is like 55+ years old and balding just ignore him
>>735003259/thread
>>734986094you have no idea what you talk about anymore. you just copy paste random sentences from X, most of them being AI generated, and think you are an expert. sad.
>>734985610>goes all in on the good aspects of the gameSuch as?
>>734998130>reddit says game is fun>look inside>its a game made for rugrats characters
>>734997729Yeah. With how well it's selling they can easily make this a forever game for the Switch 2. One of those games everyone buys when they get a Switch 2 because of word of mouth. They can easily add new areas, items, costumes/cosmetics, events and Pokemon/Evolutions to this game with DLC big or small. Koei/Tecmo will be more willing to do that than Nintendo who barely supported Animal Crossing post release. That was money left on the table by Nintendo by not doing more DLC/Expansions for AC. No way Koei/Tecmo and the Pokemon Company is going to waste this opportunity to make more money.
>>734985515Alright DQ Builders is on sale right now, what's better 1 or 2?
>>734985515the same reason why degenerate pedophilic snoys like you are allowed to exist
>>735009458Good morning sir, redeemed the needful izzat benchod?
I didn't mind the combat in dqb, it was a nice change of pace once in a while even if the combat was very simple
They just need to expand the map and add gyms and battles
>>734985515Why it looks worse than DQB tho? And Im not talking about graphics or performance, but the overall design, looks like a mobile game. I really wanted a DQB3 and im all in for the pokemon theme, but the looks are off putting me
>>7350094161 had better paced story, 2 had better gameplay improvements that makes it hard to go back to 1. Pick your poison. You'll understand what I mean about the pacing in 2 once you play it.
It's not the same game though. It moved away from the focus on combat and took a lot of ideas from animal crossing.
>>734985515It's just that good, laddie.
>>735009416Probably 2, but I haven't played 1 so don't know exactly.
>>735002741Is there actually a game corner in the saffron area? I saw a piece of text talking about the Game Corner but there is no Game Corner themed building, and definitely not Team Rocket HQ hidden under it.
>>734985693to be fair Pokemon and Mystery Dungeon just mesh really well together.
>>734985515Turns out nobody cares about your comfy building game if it has a shit skin
pokemon is just the greatest intellectual propertyone of mankind's highest achievementsname a genre of video game that wouldn't work with pokemon you literally can't
>>735015961Dating Sim
>>735015961RPG
>>734985515I'd just like to point out Eevee is 87.5% male
>>735016076nah that'd work great
>>735016076This better be bait
>>734985515Pokemon is more popular than Dragon Quest.
>>735005712>"other people have already said 2+2=4, be original!"
>>734985515Nintendo bonus. Same shit with Hyrule Warriors.
>>735020631>NOOOO YOU CANT LIKE GAMES THAT HAVE GOOD IPS!!! YOU HAVE TO PLAY THESE BLAND SOULLESS VERSIONS OF THEM WHERE EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IS A GENERIC LITERAL WHO!!!!