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>troonkopia
I disagree with transexual people's way of living.
I kindly set parasect’s habitat next to paras so he can sleep in ease :)
>>734991521i disagree with CIS people abusing children
>>734991315This makes me sad :(
>>734991669>He doesn't know humanity moved on to space in this timeline
>>734991669At least we dont need to abuse kids to reproduce you disgusting freak.And the word is normal. Cis is just faggot cope
This reads less as deepest lore, secretly dark meaning, and more like the people making this game just didn't give a fuck and think the mushroom crab is cute.
>>734991669What do you believe cis is an acronym for?
>>734993486You say that but there's plenty of dark meaning NPC dialogue in PZA
>>734993571And did the devs who wrote PLZA write this game?
>>734993571Yeah, and PZ-A literally directly references dark things from other games. The wink-wink-nudge-nudge shit in this game doesn't even really make sense as anything but a reference.
A heartwarming storyhttps://youtu.be/aWrNkZFvI2E?si=1UY-T4jH-1M6KjIe
>>734993063why did he do that?
>>734993545cunny is sexy?
anti-fungal treatment split-evo for Paras when?
>>734993705wow it's like graduating college in real life
>>734991315>loses all self-control and becomes a husk for the brain-jacking fungal parasiteparas still makes me sad to this day. those big, hopeful eyes completely unaware of what those mushrooms are doing day after day. And then it evolves, which is the fungal parasite's symbiotic goal, and all is lost.
I don't get it, is the joke here that parasect sucks? because that shit has Spore and I would use it all the time in games to catch mons
>>734993486The mushroom carrying bug turning into a zombie with it's evolution has been the literal single piece of lore for it since 1996. Every game it appears in, the pokedex entry references it. Its not a "wink wink nudge nudge" or a "the devs didnt care and just wrote whatever"Its just "Paras appeared. The devs wrote about the one thing Paras is known for".
>>734993779ThisHe deserves a chance at a good ending
>>734993886The joke is that Parasect is the bug essentially dying and becoming a robot controlled by the mushroom
>>734993705Huh.I was expecting a bit more than that. Feels like they are too concerned with plausible deniability so it doesn't freak kids out, to actually do anything interesting.
>>734993971I keep forgetting that Pokedex entries in the older games were completely unhinged
>>734993886Parasect kills the crab.
>>734993909>Its not a "wink wink nudge nudge">Its just "Paras appeared. The devs wrote about the one thing Paras is known for".What's the difference, if you're not going to actually show it happen? Same with the Drifloon reference.
>>734994041A wink wink nudge nudge implies subtlety.
>>734993886The joke is that Paras gets taken over by a brain jacking parasite when it evolves.
>>734994004Pokedex entries are like that to this day. There's stuff like the one for Bewear outright stating that it tends to kill its trainer.
>>734994004Not just the older ones. Check out Sun and Moon's entries for Mega Evos.
>>734994070"wink wink nudge nudge" implies if you know you know, not subtlety.
>>734993779THIS I would literally cry and become gay
>>734993779Or maybe that could be its Mega-evolution where the host makes a temporary comeback and controls the mushrooms. Would maintain the dark themes as it would go back to being a zombie right after, like a gasp of air
>>734993886Paras and Parasect reference the Cordyceps fungus infecting insects and puppeteering them as fungal zombies until they're completely consumed. It's the same fungus used in The Last of Us. With Paras, the parasitic mushrooms exist in a symbiotic relationship with the bug.With Parasect the mushroom has consumed the bug and puppeteers its shell. When Paras evolves it dies.
I want Reddit to leave
>>734994178"If you know you know" is a subtle way of calling attention to somethingParas's quote of looking forward to growing up despite the sad future that awaits him if the mushroom on his back grows is more like loudly banging on the 4th wall, because its the only piece of lore that exists for Paras. Not some niche insider knowledge.
>>734994581It is if you're child a roastie. As in, most people playing this game.
>>734994613bot post
>>734991669Seems to be doing just fine without any children to kill. So kinda feels like a self defeating reference.
>>734993571
So what Pokémon is a complete jackass to everyone in this game?
>>734994581He's right though, if a kid doesn't know, it is subtle. That's how they used to hide sex jokes in nick shows.
>>734994708Honestly an appropriate reaction to the whole thread.
>>734994708>tfw you can actually make this in Pokopia
>>734991669Thoughts on the old xchange threads on /gif/?
>>734991315
>>734993545Confederacy of Independent Systems
so we're gonna get a parasect evo in gen 10, yeah?
>>734995319no more anon
>>734993909if parasect is a zombie then why is it not ghost type?
>>734996145GF only had stupid plans for Ghost Type back in Gen 1.>"Let's make this special "Ghost" type Psychic's weakness!">"Now let's also make the only 3 ghosts in the game dual Poison type!"
>>734996343dont forget they only put two (2) ghost type moves in the entire game and one was a seismic toss clone
>>734996145Why would a mushroom be a ghost
>>734996343>make psychic weak to ghost>put only 1 ghost in the game>make it a dual type that is weak to psychic>accidentally end up with a bug where ghost moves don't work on psychic pokemon>not that it wpuld have mattered because there were only 2 ghost moves anyway and they were both shit>also, a trade evolutionGengar being anything other than despised is honestly pretty impressive. Never liked his design though, haunter is cooler.
>>734996443IIRC bug type was similarly limited. Yet another FUCK YOU to any counters Psychic might have.
>there are unironically teens and adults """playing""" a children's gamelmao
>>734996145Because the mushroom is the pokemon now. And the mushroom is alive. Mushroom is grass
>>734996579>haunter is cooler.I agree. An opinion I hear quite a bit.
>>734996620What century do you think it is right now, quentin
>>734996624>fungus is now grass>but also, green onion is NOT grass
>>734996476if a shed exoskeleton counts as a ghost then anything dealing with the undead is ghost. The mushroom is poison and the crab zombie is ghost, so another poison ghost. Why the hell is a crab mushroom bug grass anyways? If you don't like the zombie angle then it should be water poison
>>734996761Is that what ralts is supposed to be?
This is the first pokemon game I've played in a long long time. I like the pink one with the hammer
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>>734995282I’m scared to ask. What are you talking about?
>>734993545I forgot, what does it mean again? I’m seriously asking.
>>734996879Why would a poisonous mushroom inhabiting a bug body be water type
>>734993779>shedinja situation where it evolves while holding some anti fungal treatment item>if you have an extra space you get another mushroom pokemon alongside cured paras
>>734993419You're the reason they exist. A straight man had to molest a child to create the first gay man.
>there are unironically """people""" getting mad that anons are playing and discussing video games in a video games boardlmao
>>734994132Why did the guy who wrote the text for SM hate Mega Evolution so much?
>>734994339>It's the same fungus used in The Last of UsExcept instead of making its victims climb things then die it turns them into the standard "Braaaiiiiins" zombie except there's a mushroom on their heads like the status effect in EarthBound.
>>734993486it's not supposed to be deep lore. it's supposed to be funny. are you stupid?
>>734997098crabs are crustaceans not bugs. almost all crustaceans and all crabs are aquatic. paras is the same type too
>>734996620So nothing's changed since the 1980s. Also why do Sonys and Microsofts think they're badass adults when their consoles also have kiddy games and the "adult" games are just quip-filled gore and swearing-fests like an R-rated Avengers movie?
>>734997519>all crabs are aquaticExcept the many land crabs.
>>734997519paras is not a crab
>>734993613>>734993486There's plenty of dark shit in the dex entries, like hoppip or some shit goes>lol it hops around until the pollens run out and then it diesLike not even "passes away" or some implied shit, just literally "then it dies."
>>734996620Nintendo is the Disney of video games. You're dealing with "Nintendo Adults"
>>734997692You're thinking of Spoink, if it stops bouncing its heart stops.
>>734994758Someone answer me?
>>734997692Nah Jumpluff has something sinilar as its entry in Pokopia
Who's really talking, Paras or the host spores?
>>734997519You don't get water type just from being a crab. Dwebble is bug/rock, Crabrawler is pure fighting. And crustaceans can be bug type like the aforementioned Dwebble or Wimpod.
>>734998006https://youtu.be/aWrNkZFvI2E?feature=sharedParas is in full control for now but doesn't understand what will happen when it evolves
>>734996579i think that gengar looked cool when he was pitch black, but now that we have color and he's purple he looks stupid
>>734996967>I like the pink one with the hammerAmy?
>>734991521Are the transsexuals in the room with us right now schizo-kun?
>>734991521Anyone that isn't mentally ill agrees.They will never be a woman. It just won't happen.
>>734994339Nooo! You're lying it's not true!
>>734991669why are you antiwhite anon?Why do you defend pedomanic trannies?
>>734994339isn't also the fungus/rot ued in Hollow Knight as well?It's a cool fungusSo much I'm stealing it for my own game; that won't ever be made
>>734997006They used to make caption GIFs out of normal porn in the format of testimonial ads for magic sex change pills. People taking them intentionally, people being slipped them against their will, being coerced into taking them. Sometimes they were temporary, sometimes they were permanent. Sometimes they had other fetish-related effects. I always knew those threads were bad news.
>>734993486Peakychu blew out her electrical sacs desperately trying to revive her dead friends.Drifloon roves around trying to find children to abduct.Some kind of impending disaster made the Earth prospectively uninhabitable for humans, and they left all the Pokemon behind to face whatever the fuck is coming.>>734997519Paras is actually a cicada. That's why it has the same kind of mouth as Pinsir.
>>734997519Is Paras not a mutant ant?
>>734991315doesn't the mushroom take over paras brain and it becomes a zombie when it evolves?
>>734994708you don't really sound more mature than the others than pretending everything around you is for babies using a fucking spongebob picture
>>734993705This is scary as hell, poor Chiyo-chan.
>>735002596>doesn't the mushroom take over paras brain and it becomes a zombie when it evolves?Not true, the mushroom would never do that
>>735002708really dumb response
>>734994004The mega evolutions are pretty unhinged because most are like "The pokemon can not handle going this far" with like, some pokemon melting alive while in their mega evolution. Annihilape is just funny because it's just "The Primeape got so angry it died but was too angry to stay dead."
>>735002596In the Mystery Dungeon games, the tokuchaso appears to always be influencing the bug's brain, even before they get big enough to take over completely, as if the relationship isn't entirely negative for the Paras. There's no evidence of Paras without the fungus, and it's known that the tokuchaso spores are pre-seeded on Paras eggs and take root immediately upon hatching. Maybe Paras can't reproduce at all without the tokuchaso and their survival strategies are mutually dependent on each other. According to the Mystery Dungeon games, the Tokuchaso on a Parasect's body is fully self aware and equally intelligent as any other Pokemon.It's not really fair to treat it differently from any of the dozen other mushroom Pokemon, or any of the other symbiotic Pokemon.
Parasect deserves love, too.
>>735002982>tokuchasoNigga no one knows what the fuck you're talking about. Just use mushroom like a normal english speaker
bug/ghost paras evo variant where the spirit of paras is the mushroom's jojo stand
>>734994758Charizard?
>bulbasaurs
>>735003205The English Pokedex calls the mushrooms Tokuchaso in at least one game in every generation Paras appears in except Gen I. Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Y and Pokopia are the only games in the series where the mushrooms aren't specifically identified as Tokuchaso. They make sure you know they're called that the vast majority of the time.
like are there "normal" animals in the pokemon universe, or do they farm tauros for beef on an industrial stage just outside of camerashot?
>>734995681https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrNkZFvI2E
>>734998091>>735003707>eyes turn dead>stops eating, implying the fungus is consuming the body of the parasect for nutrientsjesus christ
>>735003707Fuck that made me sad
>>735003705There used to be. The early games tended to size up Pokemon and their abilities in relation to real world animals. The anime had offhand references to real world animals and even depicted a few, mostly fish. It's been implied multiple times that parts of Pokemon or the substances they produce are regularly eaten by humans and other Pokemon alike. Most notably, Slowpoke tails, which were retconned to detach naturally and regrow over time.Several Pokemon are also established to exist in a predator-prey relationship with each other. Durant are said to be preyed upon by Heatmor, and their eggs are supposedly threatened by Sandaconda, for example. So Pokemon are definitely eating other Pokemon in the wild.There are dairy farms for Miltank, commercial honey harvesting operations for Combee, and Team Rocket tried to make money poaching Slowpoke tails, and Jesse, James, and Meowth fantasized about Magikarp sashimi in an episode of the anime. So it's not a stretch at all to assume that there are Pokemon being raised for food and it's just never depicted in game because they don't want kids to get attached to their Lechonk, only to find a pasture full of them being finished on apricorns and berries for the slaughter.
>>734995379roger roger, my nigga.
>>735004564>There used to bePokemon in a nutshell, an IP where lore is endlessly stripped out because 90's children's game lore is too hardcore for modern adults for some stupid reason.Pokemon used to marry humans lmao.There was an unspecified war that the electric gym leader was in. Etc.
>>735004964It's more that it was sanitized to keep the whole brand coherent with an anime that's constrained by Japanese broadcast rules for daytime, child-oriented programming. They can't do anything too dark or edgy in the anime, and those restrictions only get tighter and tighter every year.
>>735005358>those restrictions only get tighter and tighter every yearshouldn't have killed those kids by giving them an epileptic attack
>>735005358Nobody thinks the anime and game have anything in common though.They don't even get the pokemon scales right.
>>735004564Gen 4 had the folklore>Pick clean the bones of Pokémon caught in the sea or stream. Thank them for the meals they provide, and pick their bones clean. When the bones are as clean as can be, set them free in the water from which they came. The Pokémon will return, fully fleshed, and it begins anew.I don’t think that the ham, sausages, meat and sushi that’s in SwSh, SV and ZA are all vegan or parts of Pokemon that regrow. But I don’t think GF or TPC will ever outright confirm that Pokemon in the modern day get killed for food when people cry just from Pokemon eating other Pokemon.
>>735005509The Pokemon Company wants a coherent brand across all their products. The anime isn't perfectly accurate to the games, but they're never going to show something like a dead, sliced up Magikarp ever again because the TV rules wouldn't allow it, so they're going to avoid anything even vaguely similar in the games outside of offhand dex entries.
>>735002890>I think with spongebob, but YOU ARE LE BABYnope, perfect headshot, child.
>>734996624Mushrooms aren't plants
>>735005509>anime depicts Charizard as a 7 foot giant>PokeDex says their average height is barely that of a human woman's>I'm expected to fly something shorter than me for long distancesI know Pokemon sizes can vary, but even if Charizard barely made it past 6 foot that's still an awkward ass ride.
>>734991669>omocat.jpg
>>734993486Cubone talks about how his mother would have liked the habitat you made for him.
paras dies when it evolves
>>734996590The only stab moves bug has in gen 1 are leech life (20 base power lmao) and pin missile (rng move and the only bug pokemon who can learn it is beedrill).Scyther and Pinsir don't even have a single stab bug move. Scyther I don't think even has a stab flying move either. I think it got wing attack in a later gen
>>734993486Parasect's dialogue is weird compared to Paras' dialogue so I'm sure it was considered.
The cut pre-evolution to paras from the Gold and Silver beta is a Paras growing out of a mushroom.
>>735008789You forgot twinneedle (only learned by Beedrill)
>>734991315What does it mean? I don't play pokemon.
>>735008960This makes 0 sense.
>>735009375There are insects that lay their eyes on or in mushrooms.
>>735002596The mushroom is intelligent
>>734993705I don't know if playing it this safe made it more creepy or not.
>>735008960That's quite funny that Paras goes from the parasite to the host.
>>735009012A move so forgettable my memory just merged it into pin missile.Also in gen 1 bug wasn't either super effective against psychic because of a bug (lol) in the code.
>>734994708kek I clicked this thread to post this >>734991315
>>734997814Thanks jeetPT
>>734996883Either a leek or an onion, yeah. It's pretty obvious if you see how its dress layers over it.
>>735009012>>735010023Back in the pre-internet days I actually super-trained a Beedrill so it could be a hard counter against psychics in Stadium. It went about as well as you'd expect.
>>735008789>Scyther I don't think even has a stab flying move either. I think it got wing attack in a later genIt got it in Yellow at level 50, but Wing Attack is only 35 power in Gen 1. So its still pretty crap other than a way to attack Ghosts.
>>735010084Feels bad man. The only way to counter psychics back then was to stat check them with another psychic pokemon, or chansey/snorlax.I know the game wasn't designed with any competitive thought at all, but even from a single player rpg perspective psychic was such a bullshit design.All its counters can't even hit them with stab (ghost/bug) and like half the gen 1 pokedex is poison types. It wasn't even hard to get your hands on one. You can get abra before the 2nd gym if you are patient. Drowzee is easy to get. The Mr Mime trade completely steam rolls the game and thats by the 3rd gym.WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>>734996343Ghost was weak to psychic in gen 1.
>>735010312Only because ghastly/haunter/gengar was dual poison type, which is weak against it.
>>735010169Even if it had technician back then that's pathetic
>>735010284Psychic was clearly meant to be the best type, which is why Mewtwo and Mew have it, and it's rare in-game. I think that was intended, but I don't think Normal types being almost as cracked was intended.
>>735004564There "used to be" animals the same way there "used to be" hollywood and real world places, back when the pokemon world wasn't well defined by the writers
>>735010394>and it's rare in-gameThey aren't that rare reallyDrowzee, abra, jynx and mr mime are easy to get early game and there's still exeggutor, slowbro, starmie before we even get to end game mew and mewtwo
>>735010620Yeah but you hardly every actually fight any psychic types. That's why poison types are actually really good in gen 1 because they resist all the poison enemies you face.
>>734991315there better be a wind wave regional version where the bug wins
>>734996879If it ever gets another evolution then it might
>>734993545Children In the Sack
>>734991315damn, that's pretty bleak
>>735007269You gotta remember you’re playing the games as a 10 y/o kid. Maybe to adult you it would be difficult but when you’re young and small it’s much more manageable
>>735012184Pokemon protags have been commonly in their teens for the last decade and a half
>>734997293We're adults here. You should be posting about political bait and porn.
>>735003205
>>735003323Why is Charizard just consistently the best mon
>>734993063all pokemon owned by people were shoved into the pc system decades/a century or so ago. they don't leave the pc until it starts breaking down at the start of the game, so none of the mons that move in know what happened in that time. only the ones like legends (who didn't care enough to see what happened) and wild mons, I guess, would know, but we never see wild non-legendary mons.
>>735012426lol whatever nerd fucking lmao
>>735003205>look at me I reject Japanese words despite loving Japanese games!>I'm so superior to everybody because I only speak and recognize one language!
>>735012926Pathetic.
>>735008960So the theme is symbiosis and they rely on each other to survive but they decided to scrap that to make it the darker scenario instead. Interesting.
https://youtu.be/jgATCW2Vqhw?si=7ezDYEtyKVlaYEab
>>735003707This video was fucking sad. How has there not been a "Paras overcomes the spores" or "Paras original species without the spores" regional evolution yet?
>>735013403before pokopia the only spotlight paras/ect has gotten was fear over the alpha ones in legends arceus. before that it was barely anything since the 90s. maybe now that someone other than game freak forced it into the spotlight finally, we will see something.
>>735013248>sloppagrim
>>734991315What miffs me about this game is that this would have 100% been a minigame type situation in a mystery dungeon game. A side gamemode where you build your own rescue base would have been perfect. You could find chests with different building types or furniture in them and bring mons in your town. IT WRITES ITSELF. We got DQB vanilla pokemon and everybody is celebrating because its just slightly better than animal crossing.
>>735014278pokemon isn't yakuza, we don't need massive side games inside of a full game.
>>735014453We already have biomes for mons to sit in,its just the next step into customizing the zones where mons sit.
>>735014278Parasect is a metaphor for how TPC views the fans and they're too paras to know it
>>734991315Flowers: I can't wait to become beautiful and make many people happyMushrooms: I'LL RAPE YOU AND KILL YOU I'LL RAPE YOU AND KILL YOU I'LL RAPE YOU AND KILL YOU
>>735014513They’re Gen 1 anon
>>735014278Didn't Gates to Infinity even have you build a "paradise?"Pokopia: Mystery Dungeon would work so stupidly well
>>734993705I don't get it
>>735003707wageslaving be like
Does Parasect talk about it? Every pokemon has full evolutions but I haven't seen any screenshots of it.
>>734991315I hate that amoongus stole everything of worth from parasect and then made it obsolete by doing it better.Parasect was one of the very few pokemon in gen 1 that actually had a signature move. Now look at the state of him.
>>735015913parasect is dead so it shouldnt speak
>>735016115parasect is the mushroom and it's not dead
I really wish I had the creativity and patience some of those autistic people have when playing these kinds of game. Cause why tf is there a massive grass area in bleak beach that im likely gonna ignore cause idk what to do with it
>>734997519It's a cicada you blithering idiot.
>>734994708Lmao, wait until you read Kirby lore threads
>>734997519Bro, paras is literally "bug type." Is Krabby or Kingler "bug type?" No? Then crustaceans are obviously not a part of that.
>>735016512
>this fictional creature looks like a real animal so it should follow SCIENCE
>>734991315wtf dood I didn't need to see this
One thing I do find funny about this is that pokopia is making people more aware of how Parasect's existence is all around fucked (cause who the hell is using a parasect in a mainline team?) Still, it being Pokemon it never really goes beyond that as the mushroom zombie bug still will love its trainer.
>>735013552That would be nuts
>>734993705he's literally me
>>734993705Wait, he's called Paras in japanese too? I though it would be like Kumigawagani or some shit. What about Parasect, ain't no way they're that clever.
>>735017970its also just parasect
>>735016362What if paras evolved into a beelzebub godmon and the fungi is actually saving the world?
>>734993063let me guess, the humans are dead all along and they all just believed in that to give them some semblance of hope? how original
>>735018430at the point of pokopia its entirely possible all the humans died in space, but they were all mostly alive when they fled the planet into space.
>>734997052A tranny scientist coined "cis" as a gender term based on xir studies of Cis–trans isomerism. Google it.
>>735016602Now that I think about it, it is kind of weird that dwebble is the only bug type crustacean, most of them are non-bug water types and the other terretrial ones aren't bug types eitherI guess there's wimpod but he's a bug/water isopod which only complicates things
>>735012845The Conservation team captured as many wild Pokémon as possible to store into the PC system along with owned ones. Legendary ones chilled on their own. The Hacker that joined them put in a failsafe that if energy gets low, it’ll start releasing Pokémon if environments are suitable, which is why building habitats spawns them. (You) find your Trainer’s notes as you repair Pokémon Centers, that Ditto was capable of mimicking its trainer prior to being stored.
I hope if they ever do an alt paras evolution they make it a bug/dark that's sole mission is to genocide all parasect and fungi.
>>735018547Team Rocket (rather a grunt) set up a system to get their own rocket supplied with fuel and resources (the Initiative missions, but was arrested before it finished. The lighthouse in the Wasteland is the rocket, and finishing that sends it to space to supply to the humans, and sending a picture of You, letting them know to come back.
>>734994004They never stopped. Drifloon has one in Gen 7 IIRC where it explictly says it dislikes heavy children.
>>735022223gen 7 was actually the peak of unhinged pokedex entries, with all the ones they added for Megas saying the unnatural transformations are very painful for the pokemon
