>btw i fucked your dadwhat a whore. this is why Sanary is better.
>>734995748
>>734995748Is this the gathering for all 4 Swordcraft story fans?
>>734996329you joke but we recently had a Summon Night thread reach bump limit.
>>734996429Oh shit really? I haven't been on in a little while I'm sad I missed that
>>734995748>summon night "general" thread that keeps getting made every day, multiple times a day>>>/vg/
>>734996548>thread that keeps getting made every day, multiple times a dayquote them here. i dare you.
>>734995748>canon yuri seriesAnd that's why I haven't replayed it. Shame, it was fun.
I remember wanting to kiss Gabriel and I got mad you could never do it in-game. Cowards.
>>734996792>canon yuri seriesworks on my machine.
>>734995748>not little brown blacksmith razzypleb
>>734995748She tried but got cucked by Amariss, the mom of Pratty/Cleru, which is why Sugar dislikes her and why your dad tried to calm her down by offering his firstborn child's hand in marriage to Sugar.
>>734995748>Swordcraft Story 2>pure angel and devil duo that love (you)>Swordcraft Story 1>nasty whore that fucks lots of men including your dad
>>734997227I hated 2 because the protagonist forgave the wolf boy for destroying the cool mecha. Just instantly. I was filled with actual disgust and dropped it immediately. So give me the nasty slut, I bet she fucks like a tiger and swallows when she gives great head.
>>734995748>>734997227>retards that never went past the 2nd night talking about shit they have no ideaSugar literally got cucked out of her first love and spent ages seething about itshe isn't a slut, because she is the incel
>>734996932Is this dialogue the same with the female MC?
>>734995748>SanaryFunny way to spell Razzy>>734995917Pratty is for Varil btw
>>734995748i demand a remasterit needs another chance in the west
>>734997130This man knows his shit, Sugar is mc's (my) wife and never got with the dad. Fuck you op for spreading lies about her!
>>734997121Cute
>>734996548Kys fetranny
>>735001073Love that Pratty sass
I literally never see anyone talk about her.
>>735001206Is she from the third game?
>>734995748You know what, random /v/ thread, fine. I'll give this series a try.Where should I start?
>>735001785Summon Night Swordcraft Story 1 and 2, 3 is untranslated
>>735001785we only have the spin offs, bro. unless you know japanese.
>>735001785Emulate Swordcraft Story 1 on the GBA. Then emulate the sequel (and pick EXELD)
>>735001785>Where should I start?Learn japanese and play from the first PS1 game
>>735002164She's teasing but it's still kind of nice to hear
>>735002164>>734997121I'm still a little disappointed we never got a proper Sanary fight.
>>734997227
>>734997227yea, i also didn't like that she was hiding shit through the entire thing. Sugar is fake as fuck.
>>735001297Yes
>>735000459She also crushes on the FeMC, yes.
>>735003032i want to cuddle brown imouto
>>735003607>"Always the bridesmaid, never the bride" the character
>>735002420Everyone is fake as fuck in SN1. Even your own mother.
>>735002552And FeMC is canon.
>>735002314I haven't played this game in like 16 years, but isn't she the final boss?
>>735004317not Razzy though
>>735004419I like how she calls herself a girl to your face and the stupid main character still thinks she's a boy until she reveals she's actually a girl. I felt like that was a joke lost somewhere in translation.
>>735004363No, she's the final person you get to fight in the tournament. She's not the finalist, that's Varil who your char defeats off screen. The real final boss has nothing to do with the tournament and is some generic world-ending demon.
>>734996548YWNBAJ
>>735004419Love my Razzy matazzy
>>734995748There has to be some indie guy who made a new Summon Night Swordcraft Story.
all the time
>>735004361Says who?
>>734999971The only thing I cant stand about Swordcraft 1 is that your father is some kind of gigachad that every woman used to love or some shit. Its like they really want to hype up this deadbeat dad that doesnt even do anything.>>735001206I picked her as my partner. Honestly, swordcraft 3 was kind of mediocre. The partner character is actually the summon beast of another girl and they attack and injure your swordmaster out of circumstance. The girl they want to protect gets sheltered by your master and the partner is forced to work with you as compensation, so they dont really want to be your summon beast in the first place, and they never stop reminding you that theyre working with you out of obligation and that they really only care about protecting the other girl. If can you spend every night with them and do the story where you save the girl and the world and them on multiple occasions and it still feels like their tone barely changes. I think its like this with every partner in the game but theres something about Lufeels polite mannerisms that makes her feel especially distant when she only ever talks about the other girl and how much she means to her or when the partner says theyre stronger than you so your character challenges them to a duel and they still say they were holding back at the end (the partner character is actually really powerful before they join you but get weakened at the beginning because of a summoning problem), implying they really look down on you. How in the finale you save them from getting locked into a barren wasteland dimension at the expense of staying there yourself and would have been stuck there for eternity if it wasnt for a miracle, and yet in their ending they still say theyre only sticking with you because they and girl still owe a debt to your master. Dont play Swordcraft 3 for the partner character, it will make you feel disappointed and lonely. This bitter experience still lives in my head.
>>735008785maglam lord exists and its garbage
sorryhttps://files.catbox.moe/xje1ia.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/q3x6yh.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/m0xi1d.png
>>735008785what would you improve on and how?
>>735011612>spoilerSad, I checked it and does indeed look like it.>>735012080I just want a new Swordcraft Story 2.
>The original is Japanese onlyWtf... how difficult is the Japanese? I can get by if its like baby Japanese
Which game do you guys like the most?I loved 1, its a 10/10 for me, but was pretty disappointed by 2, its like a 7/10.Kinda lost all interest in 3 after playing 2 desu.
>>735012761Whats wrong with 2? Ive yet to play it
>>735012890The story wasn't as interesting imo, also was poorly paced due to an egregious amount of padding including having to grind specific rare enemies for their rare drops in order to progress. The game being broken up into days also doesn't work as well here since there's no tournament you're waiting on, its just dumb stuff like an antagonist saying "oh let's not fight today though, meet me here tomorrow instead"I also didn't like the change to crafting, where you're now encouraged to use only one weapon and keep breaking it down and remaking it into stronger stuff cause it retains some of it's stats for every time its been reforged. You're basically gimping yourself if you try to experiment.
>>734995748I don't know why there's so many Swordcraft threads recently, but nice>>735002349
I'm having fun
For me it's Razzy
>>735013820is that a shader or a photo of an actual tv?
>>735017445Just some shaders that came up with Duckstation
>>735012053Behold, the only half decent Sanary porn in existence
>>735013820Look forward to the 2nd game, it's even better.
For me, its Dinah
>>735018739
>>735019043
I just started SN1 and have some questions...What exactly does dex do? Attack scales with STR and as far as I know you can only block or counterattack, not evade... I haven't seen crits either, so what does LUC do...How do you use magic? I know you can summon and make vows with stones + accessories, but do you have generic magic attacks?Do summons scale depending on your INT?Maybe I missed a tutorial or something...
>>735020946https://psinstructionmanual.com/summonnight/Manual at least states LUK is crit, DEX is accuracy
>>735022506I was kinda suspecting all that info was in the game manual, but couldn't find it on a good enough resolution for my ocr to work.Thanks anon, I'll check it out.
Is this game as yuri filled as I've heard, or is it like one or two conversations blown out of proportion?
>>735012890The setting was much duller than the steampunk island city of Wystern. The characters seemed less interesting, too. I was hyped for clashes of ideals with the angsty abused summons, but everything gets pinned on the lukewarm villains and nothing much comes of it.It also has generic weapon durability encouraging you to brainlessly mash through menus to repair. In Swordcraft Story 1 you automatically maintain weapons outside of battle, making it the only RPG I know where weapon durability didn't make the game worse.2's music was fucking sick, though
>>735023371The game's just MCsexual. If you choose the boy every girl has the hots for you, but if you choose the girl, every girl and boy has the hots for you.
>>735023498I seeeeeeLittle disappointing, but still decentMaybe I'll emulate one day
>>735023498This usually depends on who you spend time with, but if you choose Sugar as your partner character she's just going to be thirsty for MC all the time (because MC's dad, who she loved but never got with, promised her his firstborn)
>>735023835>(because MC's dad, who she loved but never got with, promised her his firstborn)That unironically sounds like the plot of a NTR doujin.
>>734997121I can't be the only one who perked off to this
>Mainline Summon Night:/>Swordcraft Story:)Never change, /v/
>>735026218I'll start next week I promise...
>>735026218>Mainline Summon Night¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>735026218I just want to drill opponents into submission and then make weapons out of them.
>>735026218weapon crafting good
>>735005507>Boobs on my RazzyI fucking wish, I need a short big boobed fantasy negro loli wife
>>735018970Can't wait for this cutie
the only companions that matter are the two fire demons in both gamesthe rest are either beasts that cant talk, mechs or little girls
>>735009303The game.If you play 2, femc shows up with Sugar for a bit.
Wow has 15 years passed already since the last thread? What's happening?>>735029553Be careful or she'll marry you.
>>735029857>Wow has 15 years passed already since the last thread?We had one hit bump limit just some days ago
>>735029816I played 2, did the postgame dungeon and everything, and that never happened
>>735012582The Japanese isn't difficult at all. I'd say they're around Japanese middle school level. Here's a random example.You should give it a try and see how you do. If there's something you don't understand you can also ask here!
>>735029898I was being cheeky.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/734519061/#q734655087
>>734995748Started playing this to satisfy my fate EXTRA itch and it's pretty good.
>>735030358Who did you pick? Which partner did you get? Fate/Extra Record never ever.
>>735021576Angel Dinah would ride you until your balls were empty and then some. Devil Dinah would get flustered at the thought of kissing you.
>>735030427>Who did you pick?the boy>Which partner did you get?sugar since there's no fox wive equivalent>Fate/Extra Record never ever.yep. it's over.
>>735030837That's the pairing for max first playthrough enjoyment. Have fun anon.>no fox wive equivalentYou'd probably like 2.
>your wife, sir
>>735031256
>>735026218Japan is keeping Summon Night's GREAT girls all to THEMSELVES so NO ONE else can have them!Aren't you ANGRY!?
>>735031619How could they do this...
>>735031776sex with this used-up undesirable widow
>Six main games>Several spin-offs>NovelsI should really learn moonrunes
>>735031959>>735032102And drama cds...
>>735032102No time like the present.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KEEs0K6EaQ
>>735032102If you're interested even a little in jap media there's literally no downside on learning moonrunes
I won't learn japanese to play an obscure JRPG series when 99% of worthwhile games are already translated.I'll just wait for AI.
>>735033019Based and mediocritypilled.
>>735001073>that filterLOOKING GOOD
>>734995748I beat this and holy shit did they fuck up the JRPG formula. There was nothing to explore, just empty houses everywhere.
>>735034548That's what was unique about it. There are plenty of other JRPGs that break that mold too. Besides, IIRC there were some quests you could complete every day that gave an excuse to run around town.The second one has more in the way of traditional exploration.
>>735026218Yeah, english website, negro
>>735033019Many are doing this
Whelp these threads made me fire up my ancient copy I've had sitting around
>>735026218I'd like mainline more if the only shit we got wasn't Vic Ireland's bullshit.
>>734995748Why does every girl in this game want to yuri Pratty?
>>735035651I'm jealous.
>Mogs any Swordcraft StoryVictor won
>>735034548That's how most JRPGs are though. The houses usally are empty save for an NPC or two that talk about useless stuff 99% of the time like how they're having rice for dinner or something.
>>735036454By "JRPG" he probably just meant Final Fantasy.Funny he's complaining about the formula despite being a mindless NPC.
>>735030234Yeah that guy is full of shit. Not sure what compels others to lie like that.
>>735036626That would be pretty ironic since FF is guilty of his complaint as well.
>>735012053*slams desk*SEXO!!
>>735032219アルルゥ発見!
>>735036071Is it much of a contest when there's only 1 contestant? I guess 2 now but i never got around t o6 to know if its any good or not since 5 was already kind of eh
>>735026218>>Mainline Summon Night
>>735010467The writing in all these games is kind of bad. Why Maglam Lord decided to take inspiration from the writing of all things is baffling.
>>735026218No one here knows japanese, it's just larpers with OCRs and translators
>>735026218>generic JRPG:/>fun weapon crafting JRPG:)Swordcraft is probably the only game I have ever played where I enjoyed weapon breaking mechanics.
>>735038106This is why fantranslations will always be superior.
>Swordcraft Story 3's story is shitOh, that's why it's taking forever to get translated. Not too unexpected, since 2's story was also bad. And so was 1's outside of the tournament.
>>7350401062 was great because of Dinah alone, she carries the entire game.
>>735040624Dinah is a cringe tsundere derivative of Etna from Disgaea. The entire game is the most trite anime shit I've ever seen.
>>735041221Sorry you feel that way.
>>735040624Will play male MC and romance Dinah now
>>735038349Have you played them?
>>735042846I don't like SRPGs.
>>735042846No. But I look out for info before I play stuff, and I did look into it after I had fun playing Swordcraft a long time ago.And everywhere just says that it's a JRPG with Visual Novel dating mechanics.You can prove me wrong and show me something unique to it if you want. Because the weapon breaking mechanics in swordcraft is very unique to it.
>>735017537>>735013820>random mishmash of shaders/filterslooks like shit
>>735041221>Dinah is a cringe tsundere derivative of Etna from DisgaeaDisgaea copied Summon Night too
>>735043926I tried to make it as close as my own CRT as possible, but I'm not too experienced about shaders so I limited myself to the ones from the own emulator. Feel free to recommend me some instead.
>>735041221I didn't know Etna had an angel inside of her, except for when Flonne gets horny.Anyways, the personalities of Etna and Dinah couldn't be more different, Etna is a bad bitch demonlord who just wants to do normal demonic stuff like loaf around, eat trash food and torture her prinnies while enjoying a luxurious life, all earned by force and the fear she can inflict on other demons due to her power and rank, she is a demon through and through.Dinah is less of a demon and more of a spirit of water who just so happens to look like a demon and thus acts snarky and mean, she herself admits that she acts like that because she is supposed to be a demon, her real personality is elusive and shy, the angel part is, well, an angel who acts the part.
>>735043592I'd agree that they're run of the mill SRPGs outside the VN parts. I stress there's nothing wrong with that though. Normal doesn't necessarily mean boring or bad.If I "had" to raise a point of contention I guess it would be the summoning system; where every character has access to magic no matter their aptitudes. It leads to some cool utility you otherwise wouldn't get and some breadth of character build.Pure magic characters get a cool distinction where only they can summon on-field units to fight alongside your regular members.
>>735045448Why does Japan release so many generic SRPGs? The amount of franchises in that genre is insane.
>>735044627Summon Night as a series also came way before the first Disgaea.
>>735045489If I had to guess it would be the same reason that lots of generic FPS games are released over here.People buy them.
>>735045489The real question is why the fuck they never localize them
>>735045819Because people don't buy them. The only currently thriving SRPG franchise is Fire Emblem, which is embarrassed of its own genre.
>>735011612The characters are fun, the genie is an irredeemable piece of shit and it's awesome.But the gameplay is so bad, it really drags the game down.
>>735045489Because it sells over there and is/was pretty cheap to make in comparison to other genres though scope comes into play on that part.
>>735012053i just nutted to this
>>735047490Pale skin is hot.
I bought it.
Why are there always fags shitting on something no matter how niche it is?
>>735045448>there's nothing wrong with that thoughThere isn't, but at the same time, you see how it's gonna be hard to convince anyone to play or try it out based on what you just said.From what I have seen, the biggest argument for anyone to play Summon Night is that it's the origin for Swordcraft Story.
>>735048328There is always one autist that feels excluded and lash out
>>735045489Pretty easy to make and lets you use a large cast of characters. Same goes for turn-based JRPGs, they let you control multiple characters.
>>735048328Because it's easy to say everything is shit
>>735048135I hate joining franchises late and seeing it's pretty much impossible to get those collections without paying a 200-500% premium anymore.
>>735048584>gonna be hard to convince anyone to play or try it out based on what you just said.I'd shift focus in that case. Assuming we were only talking about gameplay. I believe the characters and story are well worth someone's time. They're the main driving force of what gets you through each chapter - even for Swordcraft Story. Also all the remastered versions are solid SRPGs as long as you don't make it boring and overlevel yourself. It's just 1, 2, and 3 vanilla are rough games to play for only the gameplay.
>>735048328Because you need to play videogames to give an opinion on them.If all you do in your life is call everything shit, you can post in every thread.
>>735049303>If all you do in your life is call everything shit, you can post in every thread.Wow thanks for the advice!
Anyone else play Black Matrix Zero on gba?
>>735049867No, how is it? I still need to play the first Black Matrix.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPf2q_bPYFw
>>735049867>Black Matrix ZeroGeneric ass SRPG, no, honestly unless an SRPG does something crazy or gimmicky I wouldn't really play them.
>>735048584I'd argue the art is the #1 selling point, but its the writing and characters that elevate this series to greatness. The night talks Summon Night is known for wouldn't mean shit if the characters weren't fun to engage with. Though I don't want to sell the character appeal too much because I suspect if it ever got translated a lot of that charm would be lost and anons reading the TL would say "yet another kusoge overrated just because it wasn't translated" and the series would become impossible to discuss on /v/.
>>735050054Pretty fun little package. Some of the battles can drag on, but a good time nonetheless.>>735050132Black Matrix is one of those games you play for the cool biblical aesthetic. In that respect, it's pretty inventive.
hop on luminous arc /v/
Sorry kids, but the only good SRPG in existence is Disgaea because of the super ridiculous infinite grinding mechanics.
>>735051457Already did years ago, except the untranslated one in Vita. I'm interested on that one since the artist of that game works on Antimagic Academy LN.LA1 is pretty barebones and can be easily exploited if you're willing to grind yourself by healing same unit for 10 EXP per use.LA2 is proto Stella Glow, but has only 2 heroines to choose from. A straight upgrade from LA1 just by making the whole animations faster.LA3 is similar to LA2, not much of an upgrade but you can get an ending to every party member at least. I remember it has a BL ending.
>grind shit jrpg
>>7349957481st game is great since I can ship Pratty and Sanary. Always replay this at least once a year.
>>735052856I need to see them make out.
>>735049185>They're the main driving force of what gets you through each chapterIt was definitely not for me, the story was ok, not bad or good, just ok. I finished the game twice a long time ago and I barely remember any of the story. But I still remember having fun grinding down bosses with a drill and then looking up guides on what I could do with the item drops.>>735050142The art pretty looks generic too. It's not unique like Disgaea for example. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad game, but it's definitely not something unique like Swordcraft Story, which was my original point.
>>735053881>art pretty looks generic toooh boy, that's one of the few wrong opinions in the world Imagine saying that about the guy who drew Kino's Journey.I have no doubt Kuroboshi Kouhaku influenced Harada in some way.>barely remember any of the storyI'd guess you remembered the characters at least which was the other half of the part you quoted.
>thread is about summon night swordcraft story>fags start talking about some shitty SRPG spinoff>fags start talking about some unrelated ching chong ping pong gamesSummon night has fallen, let's not have threads for 15 more years.
>>735055303The op said Summon night, not just swordcraft desu
>>735055303Anon, it's a very niche franchise. Unless someone here makes a spiritual indie sequel there's nothing new to discuss.
>>735053881>the story was ok, not bad or good, just ok. I finished the game twice a long time ago and I barely remember any of the storySecond anon you replied to, I don't disagree with this. I was mainly talking about the mainline series, which has a different writer who also wrote most of the novels. The Swordcraft Story series has a different writer.
>>735054491What is unique about Kino's Journey is not the artstyle. If you think that the selling point of Kino's Journey is its unique artstyle, you are dead wrong.I like Kino no Tabi, but what I find interesting is the unique premise and its philosophical points.>remembered the charactersAside from Dinah, not really. I know there were a lot of other characters, but I can't remember any of them. They are just that forgettable.
>>734995748I mean I want to fuck my own mom and she fucked my dad to make me, I don't see the problem.
>>735055303Magum lord was swordcraft 4 and nobody bought it
>>735055354>>735055343why are you replying to an obvious shitposter
>>735055537it's sunday
>>735055481
>>735055521Did it have yuri?
>>735055631No
>>735055573h-he probably means amariss, not his IRL mom.And I get it, Amariss is cute.
>>735055656Hence why it failed.
>>735055631>>735055656>not copying the most memorable part of Swordcraft StoryThe more I hear about this game the dumber it sounds.
>>735055772>>735055573No I mean that my dad had sex with my mom, I was born, now I want to have sex with my mom. It really isn't that complicated. I am sure there is a Greek tale about this.
>>735055423>If you think that the selling point of Kino's Journey is its unique artstyleWell yeah a book series' selling point is never the illustrations and I don't really understand how you got that from what I wrote. The LN illustrations are just drawn by a unique artist and he also worked on Summon Night.
>>735055772
>>735055772>>735056009characters with closed eyes are always malicious as fuck.sugar lost HARD
>>735055984>unique artistWhat does that even mean? Every artist is technically unique, you must mean famous or some other quality. >how you got that from what I wroteMy original point was that the ART looked generic, which you said was a wrong opinion. You quoted it even. And then you used Kino's Journey as some sort of counterpoint as if it proved the quote wrong.
>>735056131I think there is a moment in the game where she opens her eyes slightly just enough so you can see her irises, and it is terrifying.
>>734996548What's wrong with good games getting threads instead of AAA goyslop?
Anon, what you want from a Swordcraft spiritual sequel? For me:>tournament setting>weapon crafting autism>drills>lesbiansI don't think it needs the partner selection. It just means there's one good option and the rest are half-assed.
>>735056350
>>735056551>amariss>mamariss>mammariesheh
>>735056184What do you think it means? It's an artstyle that's distinguishable from others or easily identified.You go and write something like >has a unique premise and philosophical pointsso you should already know what the word "unique" means.>original point wasThat's not a point that's an opinion. If it were a point you'd have evidence. I'm the only one trying to backup my claims here by using a provably, demonstrably skilled artist considering his portfolio. He's an industry giant I don't know of a way to possibly prove it better. You're going around in circles so I'll just stop here. You're a strange guy.
>>735056504written by the same writerlolissexy lolisgunsactual dungeons
>>735057335You are just out of touch, or delusional. Every artstyle is technically distinguishable from others, otherwise it would not even count as an artstyle.The whole part is this "easily identified". You can't just say that it is easily identified just because YOU do. Something being easy or hard will always be relative to others. And you would be arguing in bad faith if you said that Summon Night or Kino's Journey are popular.Thing is, you are going by the very broadest of definitions of unique, where basically every artist out there is "unique", thousands if not millions of "unique" people. Meanwhile, I'm using a more strict sense of the word, where only like the top 100 recognizable japanese artstyles would count as unique, maybe not even that many. So it would be competing against stuff like Ukiyo-e, Sumi-e, Tezuka, Rumiko, Toriyama. I would even put stuff like Asanagi and Raita above in terms of being recognizable and easier to identify.
I summon a bump
>>734995748Did Sugar's tits really need to be so large?
>>735061524yes
>>735061720Bet none of you niggers picked the bro bot. Robots in this series are the truest of bros
>>735062862The robot in the first game doesn't freaking talk. I was so pissed when I realized the other ones have dialogue.
Disgaea would've sold millions if they let you romance Etna.
>>735062862I did in swordcraft 2 since I wanted to see all the partners, seeing them all actually talk like the other anon said. The robot in 2 was incredibly based.I remember in both 1 and 2 I just naturally rolled the wind partners the first time without really thinking about the questions so it wasn't a deliberate choice. I also remember dropping 1 for a while because not having a talking party member was a massive drag to read through even if it had good intentions. Rasho and Sugar were more interesting. I like robots when they have personality (especially sass).
>>735065734The mage companion in 3 is pretty sassy and he basically bickers the MC all the time, although he's mostly the arrogant brat type. I didn't have the energy to replay with the other companions though, and to the game's credit the interactions felt so natural that I barely even realized you might've had someone completely different with you.
