>came out same day as diablo 2>is actually an rpg, not an action game with rpg elements>can be ridiculously hard, therefore loot matters. potions are scarce early on>you can play solo or with up to 5 more characters that you may also create from scratch (as in other rpgs i always go for two tanks and two mages, one a healer, other a disabler)>there's an actual story and side quests>varied environments and immersive sound design
today op struggles to understand the difference between a crpg and arpg
>>734999357Is it good? How many premade companions does it have and is the story good? I was thinking about playing it. I want to play some old RPGs that I missed when they came out, I didn't even have a PC until 2006 and the oldest RPGs I played are Planescape and BG1.
>>734999525mid
>>734999625Explain further please.
>>734999425Diablo 2 style crpg = slot machine but for autistics
>>734999668diablo is an arpg my retarded friend
Dammit Dale
>>734999357>we have Bauldur's Gate at home
>>734999357Ice wind dale is the most boring of the baldurs gate likes
>>734999525>How many premade companions does it have and is the story good?None. Story is basic. It's more of a dungeon crawl. There are some mods that add NPCs which might be worth a try.
>>735000161It's closer to older crpgs than Baldur's Gate despite using the same engine, the game is very light on narrative roleplaying elements and the plot for the most part is you wandering around trying to find a specific mysterious ancient evil while bumping into other mysterious ancient evils.
>>734999357>>is actually an rpg, not an action game with rpg elementslmaonobody gave a shit about your buggy tabletranny shovelware even back then
>>735000298Saar pls to do post the forced meme it is the needful
why are seething trannies obsessed with pajeets
>>734999357>is actually an rpgIt's not much of a CRPG, the character/party builds are basic. Diablo 2 character builds are way more interesting than IWD1 char/party builds.As for actual "role playing", there is very little of that in this highly linear dungeon crawler. There are a handful of dialogue choices, that's it.
>>735000254So it's basically a title that let's you run the game like a GM rather than player, making up your own story rather than being presented with one. Gotcha.
>>734999357Literal unironic unc slop
It's soulless because it has no unique companions.
>>735000451Not really. A GM has the power to define what happens, but IWD is a linear dungeon crawl. There is little scope for role playing. You could do something like that a lot better in BG1 since it's nonlinear and there are lots of different encounters and NPCs to fuck with. I guess you could write fanfics about the characters while you play, but are you REALLY going to do that, anon?
>>735000298Filtered
>>734999525Its Custom Party only.But it has much better and more interesting NPCs you meat on the Journey than BG.
>>735000538I did that in the past actually, but instead of writing I was taking the actions I took in say Deus Ex and DX:HR and I was building a separate internal thought process of a character that had specific goals and methods that were different from my own.
>>734999525>>734999648>premade companionsThere are none, you made your own party from the start.>Explain further please.IWD is more akin to a dungeon delving adventure. Go in, kill everything, sell loot and up to the next dungeon. There's some sort of story to press you forward. Side quests are scarce and few. In short, the game is 95% battles, and it's really good if you like controlling 6 characters and giong from lvl1 mooks to lvl 30(enhaced edition) demigods.
>>734999357>gets gangbanged by 50 goblins in the first dungeonwow such thinking man's rpg
>>735000939>lvl 1 mage cast sleep>the 50 goblin-gangbang goes to sleep>proceed to bash each and everyone in the head>lvl2 and 3 achievedSkill issue.
rtwp is the absolute worst formulation of rpg combat
>>735000884Is there active pause? I remember being infuriated by Planescape not letting me queue spells during pause which changed my strategy completely from actively casting spells as I planned to into just buffing the hell out of the warrior and letting him clean the room. I didn't mind the combat there much and difficulty of Modron Maze is something that is one of my most vivid memories of the Planescape, overshadowing most of the story in the game.
The only serious implementation of D&D3.5 rules into a video game was D&D Tactics on PSP, which nobody played
Icewind dale is a gameplay first series. Very good but not designed for the modern onions "gamer" in mind
>>735000872Well, it could work even in IWD if your power level is high enough.
>>735001136This, but ironically.
>>735001136This plus 2nd edition is just outdated. Temple of Elemental Evil is better
>>734999668>erm it's not an rpg because i don't like ityou're not a human because i don't like you.
>>735000939>sex with goblinsIndeed... the thinking man's fetish.
Its goodLooks nice Plays niceNot as memorable as bg thoughIWD 2 also fucking amazing
>>734999357Ah yes, Black Isles Studios desperate second attempt at one upping the new guy with their own engine. Seriously, did Bioware spook them that badly?
>>734999357diablo 2>has multiplayericewind dale>does not have multiplayerenjoy making a party comp of two tanks and two makes because you have 0 friends OP
>>734999357the plot and characters suck donkey ballsboring as shit
>"fuck all those words and shit in Baldur's Gate, we just want to make a dungeon-crawling D&D game"and they did. some of the maps were sort of odd fucking things, like there was a fozen-over aquarium location which was once powered by dwarven steampunk technology or somethin? Like what the fuck the dwarves are never that cool normally they just get drunk and swing axes while talking like scottish men
>>734999357The easiest is a full fighter party (with dual class into cleric and mage for two chars).IWD1 is the best IE game with BG1.
>>734999525The biggest flaw to IWD imo is the world doesn't feel nearly as fleshed out as Baldur's Gate 1 did.BG1 felt very lived in while IWD was kind of like, a generic D&D setting that was very surface level.I tried playing the sequel, which supposedly integrates more of that based off the first game, and I never got in to it.
>>734999525It's essentially a hack and slash dungeon crawler where you make your own party. The biggest flaw in my opinion is that the encounter design isn't super interesting, just loads of trash mobs and annoying enemies like exploding skeletons, so it ends up not being as fun as BG2 for example. Still worth playing if you like crpgs>>735000264>it's close to older crpgs than Baldur's GateDepends, BG feels similar to the Ultima games (7 in particular) while IWD feels more like those old D&D dungeon crawlers. They are different schools of crpg design
>play a ton of pathfinder but finish them and want more dungeon crawling>get iwd>make what i think is a balanced party>face the starting goblins>by the time my frontline meets theirs my backline is dead or unconscious from archersdied to fucking goblins
>>735003814biggest problem is the AI is worse than in bgI miss 2e. the rules are better, the combat is faster, the spells have more strategy and counterplaymodern rpgs are just watching the numbers go brrr. its boring and it doesnt feel like a world>>735004552it does feel like ultima in the sense that the enemies are sparse and you have to worry more about the dungeon itself than the enemies
>iwd2 source code is still missingUsing that mod for "enhanced version" is a jank.
>>735002905>icewind dale>does not have multiplayerwhat?
>>735004650traps in ID1 were rough stuff. think it was the only IE game where traps really felt like traps>snilloc's snowball traps all over the floor>additionally, lone standing sentry zombies that are rigged to detonate like a snilloc's snowball on-deaththat shit was way more dangerous than a bunch of shitty ghouls. sending a thief through to disarm + snipe saved you so much HP damage
been wanting to try this all my life and never got around to it. form what I understand it's baldur's gate but more action oriented. I was fascinated with baldur's gate as a kid for some reason but I could never manage to get far into it.
>>735004841funny enough closest equivalent in the modern day is probably ds1. other rpg fans just wanna minmax their build. everything is fucking boringds went that way too. big dancing enemies with 10 hit combos and big damage. fuck man. we get like 2 good games in any given series before normeis ruin it>>735004898just buy the ee and dont use the new kits which could ruin the balance. theres not a whole lot to it. the rules are simple and there arent really any builds. do the extent there are stats they maximally add like, 5% to hit and 2 to damage. so really you can just jump in blind. going in blind is kind of the point. early dnd is simulationist, the dungeon isnt dangerous if you go in with supernatural powers and foreknowledge.you'll figure out if its for you soon enough. only thing is make sure to buy everyone smashing weapons to fight skellies in the first dungeon
Diablo 2>Different characters with multiple viable builds and fun skillsIWD>Mage, Thief, Fighter all of whom do autoattacks for 90% of the gameShit game for twats.
>>735005223>numbers go up is good>guys what if I took an upgrade that doubled everything I did, and combined it with splash damage. then I get DOUBLE SPLASHkill yourself. this is why we cant have nice things anymoreI dont want to play a splash damage maximizing cooldown minimizing simulator. fucking play vampire survivor or whatever you trannies play
>>735005303Just say you're bad at video games lil bro
>>735005223IWD mage>vast array of useful spells and buffsDiablo 2 mage>one button clickshit game.
