It's today
>>734999740oh shit oh fuckdon't step on any snails /v/ros
Far and away the most disappointing game I've ever played.
life is simply... unfair
>>734999881yeah but phi is cute
>>734999986but that's vlr phi
>>734999986she would have continued to be cute even if ZTD didn't exist
>>734999740>young femaleHow young is "young"?
>>734999740
>>734999881Eric.....
>>734999740didj you rike it?
>>734999740i can't believe they let uchikoshi write more games after this
>>734999986this but Carlos
>>735000248people buy his games and financially support him to this day. and you know what's worse? they even defend him on the internet!
>>734999740Akane (June) Kurashiki's (999 version) plain cotton pink panties under her purple dress (canon)
>>735000329>999 versionNiiiiiice
>>734999740/v/ is Eric personified btw
>>735000205noi roved it
>>734999740Life is simply unfair
>>734999881999 is the only good game in this dogshit trilogy
>>735000765Ok so where is my big titty girlfriend!!
>>735000964In prison for being dangerously psychotic?
>>735001242Oh, and also not that into you, I might add
We've gone off topic...the threads were the best part
Got the entire series right here.
>>735000945VLR = 999. Don't be a hater.
Canon nopan
I hated ZTD at first, but it won me over in the end. It's just too crazy to hate. I think my favorite is VLR for a nice middle ground fever dream between 999 and ZTD. I'm glad I'm not one of those people that can only like 999, and can embrace the unhinged "random-bullshit-go" nature of the Zero Escape games (including 999 to an extent)
>>734999740Oh fuck..
>>735001858The worst thing about VLR was the change in Clover's design and characterization, that much I'll admit.
I loved ZTD.
>>735001910Kino
>>735001876it's kind of on the verge of "so bad it's good", it has some enjoyable batshit momentsbut when it came out people expected a solid conclusion to a serious trilogy, specifically that answered questions the series had been setting up for years
>>734999986She got less cuter once she got retconned to be a ginger
>>734999740Rosevile CA?
>>735002014Yeah I admit I was a little disappointed about that, but I had hope at the time that meant we'd get another game set in the past, possibly during the first nonary game with Lord Gordain aboard an old timey train or something. I mean we've had time travel from the start and now aliens so why the fuck not?
>>734999881my feelings on ZTD are...complex
>ynr the theory threads back when character announcements were dropping
>>735000945VLR is amazing and stands next to 999.
I find the disdain for ZTD unwarranted.I found it to be a hilarious game and I wouldn't want to not have that experience.I don't think "we wanted a good sequel" is a good excuse, specially because VLR got very absurd as well towards the end of the game.
>>735001876ZTD is way more entertaining than it has any right to be. Actually, between VLR and 999, we already understand what's going on, but ZTD was supposed to be the glue that connects the whole picture. Ultimately, if you treat it as a goofy spinoff prequel, it works, but if you're treating it like the conclusion to a lauded trilogy, you're going to feel burned.
>>735002373Except VLR, despite its absurdity, was emotional, melancholy, and at times heroic science fiction. It's not that VLR was the goofiest the series has ever been. It's just that it picked up where 999 left off, which was at its kitschiest (the perfectly planned time loop death game masking a grand conspiracy). I can never, ever find it in my heart to hate VLR despite how cartoonishly evil the Mrymidons are
>>735002014>a serious trilogy>seriousIt never was.
>>735002061>cheerfull silly girl through 90% of the game>stuck alone with Sigma>Sigma you NEED to fuck my pussy, shove your hod rod right into me and unload your manjuice
>>735002317Fuck I wish I was around for those, I just played the trilogy recently. Being there live with anons must’ve been more enjoyable.
>>735002373A lot of criticism of ZTD is people being willfully blind to all the previous games having the same traits and a failure to understand things that are explicitly explained. It also doesn't help that autistic people can't handle the idea that not every question can be answered in a satisfying way and good (or at least decent) writers know where to stop.
Remember 11 mogs this piece of shit
I enjoyed the voice acted re-release of 999.
>>734999881At least the threads were fun. Probably the last time /v/ genuinely made me laugh
>>735002718Passage of time is implied. It wasn't just two days. You could kind of think of it like a look at what an extended bad ending for VLR would've been since it featured (sort of) three of the VLR characters being Sigma, Luna/Diana and Phi/baby Phi.
>>734999740If only Wright was still a lawyer, he could take the case
I never played ZTD before, but played the other two games. I know the reaction to it is negative, but is it worth it for some laughs?
>>735003774sure, ZTD is not unreedemable
>>734999881It hit points where it was so bad it was entertaining. I think the Danganronpa v3 or spore was my most disappointing
>>735002127
>>735002317Yes I do.
>>734999740I liked ZTD better than VLR. 999 is the best, of course.
>>735000021>>735000041Her ZTD outfit was cute and firmly established her as an anal-type girl to me.
>>735003774just play it with very low expectations of things having satisfying answers and you'll probably have a good time
>>735002506This post was clearly written by someone infected with ra-9
>>735002317How wrong we were
>>735003774it's dirt cheap right now and is enjoyable enough if you don't go in with heightened expectations. give it a shot
>>734999740I have tried to get three separate friends to play this series for at least a few years. The probability of being put into an actual zero escape game and fully surviving every single path is higher, but I am going to keep trying.
>>735002373Look, not everybody loves "so bad it's good." Nor do they want their trilogy conclusion to be that way.
>>735004006>play it with very low expectations of things having satisfying answersAnon, it's an Uchikoshi game. That's a given.
>>734999740me and my friends played 999, VLR and ZTD togetherwe laughed the most with ZTD, which makes it the most entertaining aka funit's one of those "it's so bad it's good" games, I fucking love Carlos so much
>>735004250It's funny because Carlos is about as far from Dio as possible
I appreciate that this game was actually funny at times, even though that wasn't the intention, unlike Somnium which tried too hard to be funny
The Carlos ending is one of the funniest endings of all time
>Sigma lusts after Phi all throughout VLR>turns out in ZTD that she's his daughterWhoops! lmao
>>734999881You were born a shitter
Ztd is kino haters can hate
I wish AINI wasn't so boring, after AI1 felt pretty fresh he just went back to reusing the E17 twist again... it has its moments but damn. Hope his next one is better.
The whole thing was worth it just for the edit of the "no dad, you don't understand" comic
>>734999740I ALREADY TOLD YOU MY MOTIVES ARE COMPLEX...
>>735000318True American hero
This series took days of my life and I don't regret it.What a ride.
>>735008636To be fair, we were playing as young Sigma in his old man's body. ZTD is old Sigma in young Sigma's body.
COMPLEX
And the murderer for that woman?
>>734999881As the other replies point out, the threads were genuinely magnificent, especially once Danganronpa 3 started airing. Those two things coming out around the same time was serendipitous, it was genuinely the most fun I've ever had on this cursed site. The suffering through how fucking ruined both things were was worth it for the ebin maymays
>>735009002>Danganronpa 3As stupid as 2 was it could never have prepared me for the utter retardation that was to come.How the fuck does Kodaka still have a following after that shit? ZTD isn't even remotely as bad.
>>735009159Now are you talking about 3 or V3 because they're different things
>>735009240The anime, but V3 is also fucking awful.
>>735009159>How the fuck does Kodaka still have a following after that shit?Lack of competition I guess. Although I'm sure there's a reason we're going back to DR2 instead of making a sequel to V3
>>735000205You were born a shitter
The dog killed her?!!!
>>735001858Her design from that to this is still more funny then hot to me. Puberty hit her like a truck.
>>735000153Hi Steven
>>735000945TrvkeVLR's final twist is more retarded than ZTD's (that actually had decent foreshadowing and didn't lie to the player) but many are not ready for this conversation
What is Uchikoshi working on right now?
>>735001702I still have my 999 watch, dang.
>>735013156This, uhhh actually you have a disease that exactly distorts your sense of time so you don't know you're on the moon fucking really
>>735002317I remember the beginning of the Black Box Generals back in 999's time, where multiple anons got pulled into threads because they'd see massive comments of just spoilersgood timesthe anon who made the .gif of Diana in front of a nuke going off with the "whoops" scrolling text before the game fucking came out is a SHIFTer, I'm sure of it>>735002373Funny != narratively satisfying, and they really went off the deep end and didn't answer shit in anywhere near a pleasing wayI mean I find Carlos clicking a fire axe like a katana fucking hilarious, same with June drifting into the Ambidex Game room to debrain Carlos with a fire extinguisher 2s after Junpei dies, but c'mon now
>>735013305The actual AI3 if I had to guess, they spoke of No Sleep for Kaname Date as if it was meant to tide fans over until he was free to make another.
>>735013156It's more retarded, yeah. However, ZTD was supposed to be the CLOSURE, the finale, so the magnitude and gravity of it fucking up is far more offensive than the utterly broken logic of Radical 9.
>>735002317I was here, in fact I stopped coming to the threads when Uchikoshi said something to the effect that some speculation was right and turned spoiler.Good times before the game came out
>>735013156VLR was just the midpoint in a two-game story that never ended up being completed due to its sequel being canned and rewritten into ZTD during development because Uchikoshi wanted a story where people could just jump straight into the third game of the trilogy. Of course it feels silly if you have all of the setup and none of the payoff, it's like if 999's True End was cut last second and the Safe End was renamed to 'True End'. The entirety of VLR was a colossal edging session building to a clixax that would end up never coming at all.
>>735013305who cares?
>>735013642ZTD's main fuck up is characters. The actual plot makes sense and does work as an ending if you're not a retard.
>>735013579
>>735013305More Hundred Line DLC nonsense maybe.
>>735014041think you're pretty alone in that assessment my nigga
>>735013497was radical 6 explicitly stated to help mask the moon's gravity? I would've thought there was some kind of gravity control in the bunkers since nobody is floating around
>>735014731You're straight up told that iirc, although I haven't played VLR in probably over a decade now so I could be misremembering.
>>735000318Based
I can't hate ZTD's twist. the absolute mad lad made a 3d game just so he can say the camera was just never showing the antagonist in frame
>>735014731They do specifically say that Radical-6 slowing down your mental processing speed has been masking the feeling of being in 1/6th gravity.Phi's superman jumping on top of the voting booth and drop kicking Dio are things she can do because of the moon gravity. (nevermind that she naturally has the belief she should be able to do this, and that she does a flying kick at Delta at the end of ZTD)
I stopped midway thorugh the 2nd game. It wasn't worth continuing honestly, 999 never needed a sequel to begin with.
>>735015025Of course, they were in pretend Mars so the gravity in the site was 1/3rd of the Earth.
>>734999881honestly it is or me as well
>>735000784This art goes so hard it still kinda upsets me
>>735007980Carlos saved the game from being utter tragedy.He is a blessing.
>>734999837Based Remi
>>735000945VLR was great until you realize that it set the third game up for disappointment
>>735001702what the fuck were they thinking making a reprint with this uggo ass cover art?
>>734999740Q-Team was by far the most entertaining. Eric bullying Sean the entire time was hilarious
>>735004250>solo dude gets burned from ZTD and makes his own mystery VN trilogy>does cast reveals for the final game in this style similar to ZTD's>niche within a niche subgenre so nobody sees itbig suck
>>735013579>the anon who made the .gif of Diana in front of a nuke going off with the "whoops" scrolling text before the game fucking came out is a SHIFTer, I'm sure of itDidn't we know that she killed 6 billion people from VLR?
>>735000205Post the cone of vision
>>735013579>Funny != narratively satisfying, and they really went off the deep end and didn't answer shit in anywhere near a pleasing wayI don't think narratively speaking every work needs to explain everything or tick every box.I don't think it'd be feasible either to try to explain everything in a "pleasing way" seeing how VLR goes out of its way to get really fucking stupid at the end of the game. In fact I'd say chances are we would get something equally unhinged, but not funny, instead we'd get a lot of cope from people with tunnel vision. I genuinely think the outcome would be worse. We would get the Nirvana Initiative equivalent to the nonary games.
TWO MORE YEARSCAN YOU GUYS BELIEVE IT?JUST TWO MORE YEARS UNTIL WE FINALLY GET TO SEE KYLE AGAIN
>>735019397
i'm gay
>>735003021Sure, if you ignore that it is literally a "And a fuck you to you, the player" kind of game. I respect what it tried to do but I despise mysteries without answer arcs.I blame myself for not knowing Uchikoshi was on the writing team.
>shoots dog for no reason in the endingIm upset the game didn’t let me shoot delta at the end and instead leaves it in a cliffhanger
>>735020978>for no reasonUchikoshi stated it was so the protagonists "wouldn't feel bad" for leaving Gabe behind so they could freely shift.Yes it's fucking retarded, but there is a "reason".
>>735021432If Uchikoshi had locked in he would've instead had Carlos protest that they can't leave Gab behind, and then Akane say "it's fine, Gab can SHIFT with everyone else's resonance field just like Eric and Mira"
ZTD has a shitton of problems but I still kinda love it and would buy ZE4.The worst part about it is that it's not finished. I still find it super sudpicious that C team only has one ending and Carlos is the only protagonist without a twist. It also lacks a lengthy epilogue like in VLR.It's a game you have to invent multiple headcanons for in order to make it feel whole. Mine being that the player is the Quantum Computer Dome, and Akane was working with Delta.
>>734999881It was okay. The sad realization while playing that they are not going to wrap the plot was really sad experience.The game is not a total 0 for me, but just because of based Carlos.
>>735014682>my niggaretard detected
>>735021563If you told me that Uchikoshi originally planned for Gab to be a SHIFTER and that he was a young puppy that put the snail there in order to prevent a bigger tragedy then I'd believe you.
>>735021795I wish uchi wasn't so quick to throw ZE in the trash. Its like he kind of crashed out and didn't want to continue the story even though he was so passionate with setting stuff up in VLR.AI1 at least was a good game.
>>735022467I think he couldn't get the funding to make it anyways.There's a reason AI1's marketing focused on the idol character.
AI2 bored me so bad I dropped the series entirely I played until the big reveal midway through the game and it just was so boring compared to the 1st
Is this trilogy worth playing? I played Somnium 1 and 2 which was enjoyable, despite 2 being way worse than 1, since date is the best protagonist of those games.
>>735023734read the thread and decide by yourself.
>>735023734Yes. 999 and VLR are great games. ZTD is a mess but still fun.Also 999 is best on DS. Port makes some major compromises that change the experience. If you can't play it on DS that's fine but if you do happen to have a DS or 3DS you could pirate it
>>735023734I think AI 2's bullshit is worse than VLR or ZTD so if you could sit through that, these games should be fine.
>>735023475AI2 has multiple retarded reviews so that doesn't really narrow it down.
>>735027094reveals* I'm retarded too I guess.
>>735023475Yeah I love when the twist of a story is that the mystery I thought was confusing wasn't actually confusing to the people in the story, it was only confusing because the narrator was tricking me
>>734999740Reading the Infinity and SciADV series after reading the Zero Escape series, and I just realized how doing scientific explanations during a death game with a 9 hour limit sounds really, really dumb
Is the last somnium slop playable?
>>735031960if you mean No Sleep for Kaname Date, i liked it more than AI:NI. It's not a full game with a full epic mystery, it ends up just being a silly day in the life of the characters, but that's all i wanted out of it. at least it didn't fuck up any characters. i'd say it's playable.
>>735032184yeah I meant that one. Good to know. I just want more super powered blue hair onii-chan (aka best girl)
>>735031960its inoffensive filler. They are using the framework to make more ZE-style puzzles which is a good change. Without uchikoshi the biggest difference felt is that there is are no flowcharts or insane twists
>>735023734>playing Somnium before ZEJesusThe only reason people excuse Date remembering stuff from other timelines is purely because of the morphogenetic field, something introduced in Zero Escape
>>735032331good taste, but eh, sadly you only get a very small amount of her. hope you like idol girl, weird boy, and yakuza dude
>>735032680she canonically thinks about dicks
>open junpei’s wiki page to read any underlying details i missed on him from 999>immediately spoiled on tenmyouji>do the same for akane>immediately spoiled on old lady that gets killedLol, this didn’t happen with danganropa at all. This wiki isnt very good
>>735033547Is Danganronpa the only other mystery VN series you ever read cause fucking hell man not looking up characters before you're done is like the #1 easiest to avoid pitfall
>>735033625He completed 999 and there was no indication Junpei would have a major role in a subsequent game. Any competent wiki would divide spoilers by game
>>735033547>be retard>do retarded thing>complain about external factors
Quark was so fucking irrelevant in vlr that I really did think Sean was gonna be him
>>735033547>looking up a wiki without finishing the games
>>735002205YOU KNOW ITdown at the ROSEVILLE AUTOMALL
>>735033547when i got into danganronpa and i googled "kaede akamatsu" i got blasted in the face by every single spoiler of v3 in the first sentence of the wikiit was something like kaede akamatsu WAS a participant in the blah blah killing game, the 53rd season of a televised real-world killing gamei assume they've made it better since then
>>734999881For me it was VLR because everyone sold it to me as a masterpiece second coming of Christ in adventure game form but it was a depressingly mid experienceZTD everyone told me was shit and it was shit.999 is still the only good thing this hack ever wrote.
>>735013108Is this an edit?I replayed The Somnium Files and never caught this supposed easter egg.
>>735014534She killed billions, btw.
>>735014986Isn't it a ripoff of saw
>>735034142when her tits jiggled while she was drunk and wanting to jump on his dick, she killed "billions" if you know what I mean
>>735034048Yeah but it's very rare, it only happens in like 1/254 times or so
>tfw born a shitter
>>735013779We in fact did not look forward to it
>>735032674Date doesn't actually remember stuff from other timelines.
>>735037539I'll bite. What's your explanation for him knowing things he shouldn't know in the true ending?
>>735038520Everything that he remembers in the true ending is something that Date had already known about before he had amnesia. Saito even points it out as his amnesia is clearing up.The Player previously learning the information piecemeal in other timelines is just a red herring to make you think Iris's mentally ill rants are real, especially if you're coming off ZE where they would be.
>>735013305AI3 most likely
Honestly the funniest game I've ever played in my life.I can't imagine taking it seriously and enjoying it tho.
Threadly reminder that So had sex with other men in Iris' body
>>735040059the saejima bloodline must be purged
When did (You) realize that Uchukoshi was a total hack?
>>735033416So do I, but you don't see me talk about it on the internet.
>>735020780A classic.
>>735030006>it was only confusing because the narrator was tricking meAn Uchikoshi classic.
how woke is somnium files
>>735041138I don't wanna talk about that
>>735001876Based
>>735041138ask grok about it since you can't think for yourself.
>>735002373I quite enjoyed it the only reason it was shit was the gameplay as in not being able to skip text and stuffI bet a bunch of anons unconsciously started hating it because the gameplay experience qol stuff was bad
>>735019163Name?
>ZTD shit>AI1 mostly shit >AI2 shitWhy do I even bother at this point? Uchikoshi is completely unable to reach the heights of 999 again.
ztd would be better if the graphics looked like artworks >>735000784the bad quality cartoony graphics with shit animations make it look like comedy, hard to treat it seriously
>>735034527No wonder he's so angry and fed up, he's got it all bottled up down there.
>>735041689Just up your suspension of disbelief statBut you make a good point
>>735039941It is the funniest game ever, purely by its bullshitness.
i liked it
i get hating ztd but anyone who actually got filtered by danganronpa v3 is a moron lmao that game is awesome especially the end
>>735042717If I had to rate which game is better designed with a better narrative, it's V3.But if I had to rate which game I had more fun and laughter with, It's ZTD, I enjoyed it far more even if it's not for the right reasons.Sometimes you don't need to be a better game, just a more funny one.
>>734999740My berfday :)I'm 26 :(
>>735042834It's because of this that I can never truly hate ZTD, that game is just stupidly amusing & funny even if the writing is atrocious.
>>734999881the most disappointing thing about this series is the art style change after 999
>>735014580>More Hundred Line DLC nonsense maybe.About one more month till the one year anniversary event. Curious to see how DLC will be handled if it gets announced.
>>735041138It was pretty low on the woke side until they suddenly have the child go a bit hard on praising a tranny and their whole movement out of the blue.
>>735003565Only one more month to go, by the way.
https://zeroescape.fandom.com/wiki/Snail>Because 999 would never have happened if the Kurashiki parents survived, and subsequently neither Virtue's Last Reward or Zero Time Dilemma would have either, this Snail indirectly caused the deaths of 6,000,000,000 humans and massive amounts of chaos and suffering.this is one hell of an entry.
say whatever you want about ZTDbut changing the "nonary game" title to "decision game" was one hell of a move.motherfuckers played aaaaall of us like a fiddle.
>>735002902VLR threads were pure kino.It's funny how this game completely killed everything.
>>735042613Me too.
I need a gif version of K riding the bunny.It gives me life.
Phi Sexo.
T-T
>>735033853I got fucked in 2014 doing the same thing. I didn't even know there was a VLR before I got spoiled on tenmyouji by looking junpei up on Wikipedia. It's not that uncommonThere also was the tranny spamming that long ass comic about à completely unrelated matter with the VLR moon spoiler at the end. Seriously if you're here kill yourself
Virtue Last Reward IS a fucking masterpiece.I'm not hearing anyone out.It was Sudoku2.Pure kino.If you didn't like it, you are a shifter.
>>735047109Worship your king
>>735046820Well, I hope you learned your lesson.Never check any wiki, 4chan or even search results on Google if you want to play a game spoilers free. It's a dog world out there.
We need a VLR Anime.Just like Gnosia, we need to get one.
>>735047109I liked it much better than 999, the prisoner's dilemma and the characters stayed on my mind for weeks.
>>734999740complex motives
>>735047280What this anon said. And I'll add, don't search for fanarts either until you've finished your game, no matter how much you want to fap to them.
>>734999740Remind me again, what is it?iirc it's the big titty assassin who kills her and sets in motion the whole events of the series, right?Any tl;dr of why that murder started it all?
O-oh FUCK!
>>734999740How far into the future is VLR again? I look forward to shitposting about that when the date comes. If I'm still alive. If this site is still alive as well.
>>735048132Snail makes woman(Eric's mom) jog down a different path, where budding serial killer Mira is waiting to move up from killing animals.Akane's dad is arrested as a suspect of the murder, found guilty, and executed. His wife commits suicide, leaving Akane and Santa as orphans in a position to get kidnapped for Ace's Nonary Game. So the events of 999 would've never happened if not for the snail.Additionally, just before he was arrested he had called a taxi. The taxi ends up picking up a nearby man as a customer instead. This man is a surgeon that was going to perform a life-saving operation on the original Sean, who ends up dying because the taxi got into a fatal accident. Delta had become friends with Sean while in the hospital, and troubled by this.
>>735000784that art was way too cool for such a goofy ass game
Are the PC ports any good or should I just emulate the first two games?
>>735049936I thought the ports are fine
>>735041538999 itself was a downgrade from Remember 11
>>735047213Completely forgot that this character existed. You'd think that if he was adding a Monokuma to his game that he'd give him a little more prominence
>>735049936Do not fucking listen to that anon. VLR is fine on anything, but you need to play 999 on a DS. If you don't have a DS, then emulate it. There are significant changes that are made in other versions of the game but going into them would be spoilers, so just trust me and play it.
>>735050540I'm aware of the twist and my biggest concern was how it was translated from the DS to a single screen platform. I take it not well.
>>735002127>Hating on ginger babesGay
>>735050540>>735050751Now I'm curious. Can you spoil me the twist? What does it do with dual screens that can't be replicated as well on PC?
>>735050751They certainly tried their best, but it isn't even remotely close to being the same experience. Also worth mentioning is the fact that the final puzzle is completely changed and is the worse for it.
>>735049936There is a "twist" tied to the text being on different screens of the DS but it doesn't actually matter and is really more of an "oh that's neat" sort of thing. The final puzzle was butchered so the climax is a lot less impactful. Story is intact otherwise and the addition of voice acting plus flowchart jumping are strong enough improvements that I still think it's a decent way to experience it.
>>735001702How was the 3D effect in VLR?
>>735051005It turns out the top half is Akane's POV with her narration communicating through the morphogenetic field from the past and the bottom screen is Junpei living out the events in the present day. In the final puzzle you have to turn the DS upside down as Junpei communicates back to Akane to have her solve a sudoku puzzle to escape.In the remakes this is replicated with the option for ADV view and Novel view, which become Junpei view and Akane view after the twist. You never have both views at the same time. And the final puzzle is changed.
>>735050463Doesn't help at some point the smug lagomorph was essentially just written out of the story all together lots of weird decisions with VLRStill enjoyed it myself regardless
>>735051005Dialogue and information throughout the game is given on the top and bottom screen. At the end it's revealed that another character has been sorta psychically seeing everything the MC's been doing the entire time and the bottom screen was their perspective, and that you solving puzzles on the bottom screen was showing that they were helping your main character solve them.At the very end of the game the roles reverse and you have to physically turn the DS over as the roles reverse and the MC helps the other character.On PC they don't really handle this that well and just tag the different perspectives as two different types of text that I don't really remember.
>>735051197That's actually pretty cool. Maybe I'll emulate 999 one of these days.
>>735051169Huge performance nuke for an already pretty unstable game.
When I played ZTD I though "Wait this is pretty good, why are people so mad about it?". Then I got to the second half of the game and went "Oh this is why". They sure seemed to forget that a few of the characters are supposed to be geniuses yet they act like the most irrational morons constantly for the sake of creating tension and drama.
>>735051169Just like every game for the 3DS: You try it and go "Oh that's neat" and then never turn it on again.
i like that the new AI game was effectively trying to be a new zero escape. I hope they make a new series as a spiritual successor
>>735023734999 and VLR are some of my favorites. ZTD is funny but shit
>>735041138you don't need to ask for the little girl's opinion on mama>>735049936The PC ports change some aspects of 999, one of the twists and final puzzles uses both screens to convey certain information. This is dropped in the PC port since they didn't want to change things to make it more obvious. Buy the PC port so you can get VRL on PC and emulate 999.
>>735001856>>735002324VLR is lesser specifically because it was written as the first half of a bigger story.VLR's self-contained story doesn't come anywhere fucking near 999.
>>735002373As much as I can recognize that ZTD isn't the finale anyone wanted, I still thoroughly and unironically enjoyed my time with it.And as I feel VLR already diluted the tone, characters and plot, I'm willing to let ZTD be kind of stupid and fun.
>>735009159>How the fuck does Kodaka still have a following after that shit?DR fans are fucking braindeadKodaka already lost me after DR2, decided to watch DR3 years later just to cap the story off and fuck's sake what a waste of my goddamn time
>>735052943>>735053107i think VLR is amazing...on the first runSecond time tho I find it the weakest of the trilogy, and find it completely meaningless to the overall narrative.That's not it's own fault to an extent granted, but it still doesn't excuse a few things like pic related.
>>735053334It makes sense that they're more suspicious of Sigma given what he looks like.
>>735053424Its less if it makes sense or not and more of that it makes the VLR cast a decent deal more unlikable than the other two games, a small part granted, but it's by far my least favorite cast.
>>735053695I get that. Mine is probably ZTD, but a lot of that is me hating Q-Team. C and D are great.
>>735051005the top screen gives dialogue, and the bottom screen gives narrationthe steam release tries to replicate this by having "novel mode" and "adventure mode" screens you can alternate between. This is cumbersome, and you can also just stick in one mode forever, but you'll lose some interesting writing here and there doing that. Also they rewrote the script so the story will still make sense staying in a single mode, which also makes some parts of it overly repetitive. Like having character say something, and then also have the narration reiterate what was just said.It's just overall a less ideal presentation for the story, which was written for it's original medium.
Didn't VLR have some absolutely stupid name in Japanese which is why they changed it for the English release?
>>735054550it was more or less"I wanna be a good person" but could also be read as "good people die"so they went with VLR.
>>735051169I have strabismus so 3D effect has never worked for me.
>>735055878the only good part of ZTD was the bad end leading to VLR. True end sucked dick
>>734999881Life is simply unfair
>>735047380that window came and went long ago. Even ZTD is 10 years old this year
June was my very first vidya waifu
>>734999740I hope I'll be part of the 6 gorillion that die in the reactor explosions
>>735024802>nooooooo my sodukooooyou fags always bitch about this. who cares
>>735023734my only beef with the zero escape series is how the game brutally punishes the player character but other characters get away scot-free with the vilest, meanest, cruelest things. that's always fucking rubbed me the wrong way
916 bros ww@
>>735057606I don't know how you can see the final puzzle in the Nonary Games version and not bitch about itIt's fucking awfulWhy even change the puzzle at all? It's not only worse for the player because it's a shit puzzle, it's worse for the story because what do you mean Akane couldn't solve it?You can just look at its default state and see that the answer is "password" and solve it in 20 seconds.Fuck's sake.
>>735000101Perfect
>>735047213>>735051245he's just a worse principal monokuma. fight me
>>735057125>10 yearsHa ha funny joke anon ha ha HA HA AHAHAHABABABABABABENSMSKSJSNSBAB
>>735057291understandable.have a nice day.
>>735057741devil's advocate: no one can solve a sukodu in 6 minutes
>>735057741>Why even change the puzzle at all?I'll give you an answer you won't like. it's because it came out on console and it would be a fucking bitch to solve using a controller
>>735001906I was more upset about Alice being completely horrible in every interaction than anything they did with Clover.
>>735057842Nobody will fight you, because you're absolutely right.
I wish I had more people to discuss Zero Escape with, although there isn't much left to discuss until another game is made. At least Uchikoshi said that Santa would reappear in the future, which implies another ZE game at some point.
>>735053334>PicThat is because we are viewing Sigma's experiencing in the timelines, which means we will only see the ones that are relevant to the story and pattern of jumps to reach the outcome needed.There are infinite other timelines not shown.
>>735054658I think Virtue's Last Reward captures that idea well. It could be a good or bad thing depending on how you think about it and plays nice with the Ally/Betray theming.
>>735018026>>735000945>>734999881You don't need a third game for VLR to be good, it works as a self contained loop. With that said, a better third game would lift VLR up with it.
>>735060671do these other infinite timelines really matter because we don't see them? I don't think so.
>>735000205my fuarking hero
>>735060589That madman had his chance with ZTD and blew it in spectacular fashion. Nobody is falling for another kickstarter after that.
>>735060740Yeah I think the localized version manages to snag it pretty well in a less awkward manner, I'm not sure you could do a literal translation of it in english.
>>735060747They don't matter, but that is precisely why we don't see them (and of course limitation in how many can be developed for the game). Consider that Sigma would never subconsciously jump to a timeline where instead they stop X person from escaping, because why would he? It would still be game over for him, so he would jump to an earlier point rather than see the other outcomes of that decision tree.
>>735060809There is still love for the series by the devs at Spike Chunsoft, one of the teams is still called Team Zero Escape internally unless I am mistaken. ZTD also was burdened with an extremely limited budget and scope. Personally I think they were testing the waters on another Escape Room game with No Sleep for Kaname Date.
>>734999881For me it's MGSV but ZTD is a close second. At least it is fun to laugh at.
how did we go from 999 being relatively grounded to whatever the fuck zero time is
>>735061008>one of the teams is still called Team Zero EscapeWhen you start No Sleep for Kaname Date, it says TEAM ZERO ESCAPE in the opening credits so yeah
>>735055878Merry Strabismus!
>>735002657Yes it was, it had unserious moments but the narrative took itself seriously and therefore it was a serious trilogy. Compare it to Danganronpa, which does not take itself seriously.
I wish these games had even a bit of replayability
>>735061360they kinda do, after finishing the trilogy play 999 again and be extremely disappointing about all the plot points never finished
>>735013497It is an off the wall premise but all the pieces were set up before the reveal and they had 40 years to set up the scenario in universe. Sigma never seeing his reflection in metal or anything semi reflective is much more of a suspension of disbelief than radical 6 perception
>>735061206999 was a mundane murder mystery on the surface until the supernatural reveals at the end, VLR couldn't do that again and had to hit the ground running with the scifi/magic bullshit, but at least still told a compelling story along the way. ZTD just went full retard for reasons far too complex for you to intend.
>>735061360Wait a few years until the plot details start getting fuzzy and then you can play it again
>>735019250We knew it was someone from the test site, so either her or Mira. I don't exactly remember the recording in VLR but I don't think she ever says her name.
>>735019636>>735013779Man I really wish we would get a ZTDx2, as in a real full budget game with the originally intended storyline. Or a prequel game 9 years before 999 as Santa that leads into a new timeline
>>735061475*understandI am the retard after all
>>735041138They each have an optional dialogue option that is completely and entirely woke as shit. They are technically optional but in a game where you are encouraged to look for all dialogue options you are likely to run into them unintentionally.The two that stand out to me are (first AI Game) Asking Mizuki her opinion on Mama and (NI/AI2) I honestly forget but it is when you are playing as Mizuki and ask Mama something
>>735042613Tokiko carried Nirvana for me, especially with Ryuki Divergence
how will AI3 attempt top the other 2
>>735057842He is worse but he is not just a knockoff, he was designed to seem like a knockoff on purpose to goad you into thinking the game was an actual death game and not another setup by having you associate Zero the Third with Monokuma.
>>735019636Crazy to think I've been waiting to grudgepost for 10 years now. Almost there.
>>735061309You're delusional.
>>735061932It will go off of Tokiko's true ending and once this is revealed it will retroactively update Nirvana Initiative in your steam library to have new content to continue the story in the previous game.
>>735062064What part of the logic do you disagree with?
>>735013305currently adding 10 more sequel hooks to The Hundred Line that will never be answered
>>735062135The lack of it.
>>735062479Can you elaborate?
>>735061360One the other hand these games are extremely fun to watch other people play
ALIENFAXMACHINE
>>735063306do kids these days even know what fax machines are
>>735063541I'm a fax machine the way I be spittin TRVTHNVKES
What was that xcom game with anime where you had to find the traitors and vote them out?
>>735061360999 does, you have to use the endings to determine what route order you should take to find the traitor of the group that wants to kill everybody else so they cannot gain any real weapons
>>735064003Lost Dimension. The concept is amazing, but it doesn't help that 2 characters, gameplay wise, outclass everyone else with their hovering right at the start.
>>735041380you can enable skip text but then it also skips the animations that play after the line, so it's not advisable>>735013156i think vlr is more retarded sigma never seeing his reflection despite you interacting with the very surface he uses at the end or simply never touching his face once but ztd is more pointless discovering there was a 4th Q team member doesn't add anything to the story, it exist ONLY for the viewer
>>735065404>Lost Dimension.Oh god bless you, my fellow anon! I remember, I didn't want to vote against that red head and she switches sides right at the final boss. I hope I don't make a mistake this time I play it.
>>735042613I don't want to fix herWhatever is wrong with her is hotter
My favourite thing about ZTD is how it subverts the usual trope of anime mystery death game characters all being those larger than life walking anime stereotypes.Instead it adds a retarded American and a pathetic loser simp that's probably the most normal person in the whole series.And it's all thanks to Uchikoshi trying to ape The Walking Dead with a budget of 20 bucks.
