>Advertise in BIG BOLD Letters that the Steam machine does 4k>actually its 1080pso scummy..
>>735000063Meanwhile the PS5 does perfect 4K 120fps for half the price. Steamies are truly retarded.
Why can't Gabe open his own semiconductor or whatever it was factory in the States? He's a billionaire. Valve should make their own RAM and also consumer RAM to sell to people.Hell you could probably even get Trump on board to have the government fund part of it if you frame it as like a MOVE AGAINST CHINA
>>735000126Yeah if you're running fuckin silksong lol. Go show me horizon FW or Death Stranding 2 running at 4k 60 without that bullshit checkerboard rendering that PlayStation uses to fake 4k and lie to its customers
Basically everyone can legally tout "TECHNICALLY IT CAN OUTPUT AT 4K" thanks to upscaling now. Xbox and Playstation do it too, you have a handful of games that can do legit 4K but the vast majority of output is checkerboard rendering and upscaling tricks. And the Switch 2 can "output 4K" but we know it's using DLSS too.
>>735000642Even the Switch 2 mog the steam machine since it can only upscale to 1080p 30fps instead of 4k 60fps.
>>735000063I don't understand who the fuck is this shit for. Mac Studio with M3 Ultra would absolutely mog that shit while taking less space if Apple actually cared about gaming. We unironically need MacBook Neo to take off to have more macOS usage.
>>735000126Funniest post I've read all day.
>>735000126retard
>>735000715that piece of trash is running an ipad chip, no thanks
>>735000715>A fucking iPhone processor>8GB RAMlmao no
>>735000063is everyone in this thread retarded? it says that a game needs to run at a minimum of 1080p30fps for it to be given the label "steam machine verified". nowhere does it say all games will actually be forced to run at a max of 1080 and then upscaled to 4k
>>735000824And still mog the steamie box.
>>735000787>>735000824I don't understand, I didn't say it's for gaming, I'm saying that it needs to take off so that the market share of macOS increases. Mac Studio with M3 Ultra (32-core CPU, 80-core GPU variant) is for gaming.
>>735000676That's entirely dependent on the game really. 1080p 30fps is basically a soft cap measure of saying "yeah you can play these games at that minimum". If a Steam Deck can run that game, the Steam Machine can run it several times better, or so the claim goes statistically. The big problem is that if a game relies on Lumen or any sort of RTX ray tracing at all, shit is messy in general. Switch 2 has the native hardware for that even though it's too weak to actually run it alongside games as a main option, Steam Deck/Machine have to improvise with software solutions. Fundamentally speaking, a Steam Machine should beat the pants off of a Switch 2 Docked.
>>735000063So just like consoles?
>>735000126snoys' and their insecurity complex.
>>7350001691. That takes effort. Valve loathes effort2. wouldn't even see the effects of it for 3-5 years. At best.They still should though.
>Advertise in BIG BOLD 1920x850 that the Steam machine is for trannies>/v/ wants it anywayso faggy..
>>735000824it runs cyberpunk at 60 fps and is not only cheaper than the steam machine but is going to be cooler too and does way more.
>>735000126Cosolebabbies unironically believe this
>>735001143Wasn't it a stuttery mess?
>>735001557Nah, people have the macbook neo and playtested it. Cyberpunk runs like a dream but it's one of the only few high end native mac games so even though the chip is way more powerful and cheaper than anything intel or AMD has, there is just no proper gaming support for it.
>>735000063The 4K wasn't the resolution, it was the price tag.
>>735001143>and does way more.not with macos getting worse
>>735000063I don't think you understand what this really means.It's saying that a game will get the "Steam Machine Verified" tag if it can achieve 1080p 30FPS. It doesn't mean every single game is going to run at that level, or that they made it to run games at that level.It's the bare minimum for a game to be recognized as being compatible with the thing.
>>735000824More like from doodoo to caca
>>7350000634k with FSR means 800p-1080p with AI upscaling.>>735000715>MacBook Neo to take off to have more macOS usage.This is a product for poor iSheep. Anyone who doesn't care about brands and actually looks at specs will see it's $600 and comes with only 8GB of RAM, while $400 laptops have 16. People would rather have a 30% worse battery life than use a laptop that's as weak as a budget PC from 2010.
>>735001628We're getting excited over this?
>>735003543Yes because it shows how efficient games could be if windows didnt exist.
>>735000715I agree but steam bailed on Apple in their linux greed
>>735000169a billion doesn't get you that far, he needs>huge cleanroom facility>ASML machines, 150M+ a pop>trained chip designers with US salary>trained operators with US salary (instead of taiwan salary)>whole logistics of fabrication, testing and shipping itit would be great if he'd do that but it's very unlikely
>>735001140thought that was a frog from the thumbnail
Higher standard than Playstation has with the PS5Games like FF16 or GoW run at like 720p
apple never cared about video games and a majority of applefags are pretentious faggots who preen over how they use a mature computer for mature professionals like myself
>>735000063>1080p for verifiedRetard-chan....
>>735003725a LOT of things start to make sense one you realize this>India has an average IQ score of 76.2
>>735000063That's a theoretical outputMeanwhile ps5 advertised 8k it physically can't do, the one game on the system that ran at 8k needed to be downscaled to 4k to actually output a visual.
>>735003704God of war runs at 4k/60 ez
>>735000063This would make a killer addition to a family trip minivan, provided the power draw isn't 295x2 tier
>>735003835High power draw also means high heat and a big power brick. The power supply is internal and it's too compact to be needing massive cooling so it must therefore be low wattage.
>>735000063But enough about the switch 2 (540p)
>>735000063I was thinking about getting one of these but that's just not acceptable for next gen gaming
>>735000126>Meanwhile the PS5 does perfect 4K 120fps
>>735004591>here’s an ugly person>and no evidence>therefore you were wrong>>735000063999$
>>735004639>999$>for a PC you can build for under $750
>>735004672$750 would get you a bad monitor, 16gb of cheap ram, an empty pc case, a mouse, a keyboard and a 1TB hdd.
>>735004752it's gaming time
>>735004672>to play video games you already own and f2p sloppaSteam cultists are like the fat ugly bastards from hentai but without the money, confidence, or intelligence. They're just fat ugly wannabe rapists (transgender)
>>735000063lmfao ps5 boxes had "8k" on them
>>735000169>one man with a few billion>his own semiconductor or whatever it was factoryYou are catastrophically retarded.
>>735005010He could get funding and make it happen
>>735000169Because those factories cost more than he has + valve is worth
>>735003604Apple bailed on everyone else you dumb niggerThey don't even have fucking vulkanValve is not going to fork out billions to make shit work for a faggot loving freedom hating company like apple
>>735000063That's industry standard. You were playing games at 4k on your PS4 as advertised?
>>735005059You severely underestimate how much money you need to raise to start semiconductor manufacturing from scratch, even if you only open a single fab.The Chinese government has unlimited funds and they're just having weak success. Intel used to be a titan and they're bleeding money hard.Someone like Gabe has no chance.
>>735000169I think you mean components not semi conductors
>>735005231valve should meet the market where it's at instead of trying to force linux
>>735005537Nobody cares about your tranny OS, Microdick Inc.
>>735005537No, Linux development helps everyone, it's all open source and apple could join it by adopting their standards like vulkan Giving apple free labour only helps one company that hates their customers and has nothing to offer besides the logo
>>735000063That's just verified status. Most major releases wouldn't be verified on any hardware otherwise, due to their inability to keep stable FPS.>>735005537No one in the market is on Apple except for Macfags.
>>735005537no, macos should just have become a Linux distro when they moved off intel and adopted open source standards like vulkan that way they get to benefit from all the other Linux advancements and Linux gets an extra DE with big support and access to pro software if there's anyone that doesn't deserve free work to help them it's apple, they always charged shortage prices for their hardware upgrades
>>735004752>monitor>mouse>keyboardAre you saying the Steam Machine will come with a monitor, mouse and keyboard? The fuck are you talking about?>an empty pc caseYou clearly have no idea what the specs of the Steam Machine are.>Valve Steam Machine hardware equivalents:>CPU: Ryzen 5 8400F (100€)>GPU: RTX 3050 8GB (240€-260€)>Memory: 16 GB DDR5 SODIMM (120€-200€)>Storage: 500GB SSD (70€)>Cooling, case, PSU, motherboard: 170€-250€>Total: 680€-880€ + 60€ for the controller (US equivalent: $650-$840 before tax)>It uses a "custom" RX 7600M GPU (not the "XT" version, not the regular RX7600). So it uses a GPU that only has 70% of the performance of an RTX 3060 (300€-320€) or RX 7600 (280€-300€) and half the performance of an RTX 4060 (350€-420€). It's actually almost as powerful as an RTX 3050 8GB which can be found for 240€. Valve's version of RX 7600M is overclocked, but that doesn't increase the value much (if at all).>RX 7600M is not sold "standalone" and it's an OEM-only part. OEMs likely only pay around $120-$140 for it. The consumer price is around $200-$250. In fact, all of the costs above are consumer prices. Valve probably pays only $500-$650 for the device. They can probably price it at $650-$700.
>>735000063I don't care, just give me the fucking controller already! And make it clear plastic too!
>>735000063like are people stupid and clueless? We already got this machine's specs and they are on par with a base PS5 that came out in 2020. It is bad and overpriced as fuck.
>>735006397It has a colossally better cpu than the ps5 and ps5 pro. The gpu is also a newer architecture so fancy effects like ray tracing will perform better than it does on ps5. Not saying this is a powerful machine but its certainly better than a ps5 and will be able to have better performance consistency thanks to better cpu and newer gpu tech efficiency gains.
>>735006397Are you?The ps5 will be relevant for at least 6 years and it's still going to go up in price if things get worse It's also not a toy where its developers are trying really hard to make you pay off the upfront price discount
>>735000715>more macOS usageWhy the FUCK would you ever want that??? Macos is absolute and total shit. Even the worst case scenario for windows 12 would be preferable.
On my mac right now, it's kino
>>735007250hi Dobson how's that 3fps skyrim playthrough treating ya
>>735000126*upscaled from 1080p 30fpsftfy you dishonest fuck
>>735000063>"4k">1080p(upscaled) and (struggles to) hit 30 fps3 generations of this shit since the ps4 lmao.Steamies will eat it up and shill for it relentlessly.
>>735007685>Snoys are so used to their toybox exaggerating the quality and performance that their minds melt when they see someone else posting bare minimum requirements
>>735006060The problem with that (and why so many devs aren't porting professional software to Linux) is because Linuxfags will naturally start breaking ecosystem and vendor lock-in just out of convenience if you don't airgap them, and from there it's just a quick jump to your lock-in being ruined due to compatibility tools and drivers being shipped in the kernel.
>>735007184Can you fags explain already what's wrong with macOS? Seems absolutely fine to me. I'm not some kind of tinkertranny.
>>735008393Good, vendor lock-in is anticonsumer shit that doesn't belong anywhere and if they're so worried about piracy they should look at windows You're defending being a corporate slave here
>>735000063>750,- at least>1080p 30>made for tv play>2026Lol, come on now
>>735009064I'm not defending it, it's just that this is the system that has been set up by extending copyright to software, it just isn't compatible with it since it's a tool that requires maintenance and this was just made worse by the DMCA enshrining DRM as something that shouldn't be broken.
>>735008970The actual internals are fine since it's Unix based, but the UI is complete dogshit that requires you to use it in the one unintuitive officially supported way. If you want to for example scroll properly with a mouse, your shit out of luck because it's designed around the shitty trackpad. The file explorer is also complete trash and functions closer to a phone than an actual PC since it only shows your documents, pictures, etc folders.Windows, as shit as it is, is at least intuitive and easier to modify with 3rd party tools. And if you need a unix style environment, there's at least WSL, though I haven't used it.Linux is still the best and will stay that way until MS switches to Unix based or Apple gets their heads out of their asses, meaning not any time soon.
>>735000169they cant even be bothered to make half life 3 or code their own store window
>>735010369yeah because they're making hardware instead. Which brings us to
>>735009384and in practice those concerns about drm don't matter to apple's bottom linein fact, apple could be making real gains in the market if they tried to be hardware counterpart of valveinstead as it stands they're just a bougie phone and big phone manufacturer marketing to women and homosexual men
>>735010582Actually Apple are currently crushing it in hardware. Their laptops especially kick the shit out of the competition in performance however because it's a Mac it means no gaems
>>735010686the theoretical synthetic benchmarks don't mean shit when they're stuck in a closed up ecosystem that will forever be confined to just being big phones also no wonder they're faster, apple is throwing money away on the newest, most expensive and wasteful node for status symbolintel, amd and nvidia meanwhile are holding up the entire digital world with their silicon
>>735010970They use ARM64 which is more modern and more efficient than x86. This lets the Macbook air beat your gaming laptop for performance while also being tiny and silent.
>>735011050no, they're using newest nodes that let them have the efficiencyagain, if their hardware was actually important to the real world they'd have to do cost benefit analysis and they wouldn't just release excess toys for middle class women and fagsalso they're not beating anything in performance, what are you on about
>>735011179No RISC is more efficient than x86. It uses less power inherently.
>>735011215less power to do less shit
>>735011246No less power to do more shit because it also has high thermal headroom. Better performance, better battery life, less cooling needed, smaller form factor. Tiny but mighty.
>>735011295ok, now you're just sucking cockagain, apple's gains are from them using much better nodes, not because of some apple magic or being arm
>>735011371Sorry but you having a grudge against Apple doesn't change the facts. They are absolutely kicking x86 based machines up and down the street, especially anywhere that it runs on battery.
>posting in a bait thread(YOU)
>>735011428your fantasies about sucking tim's cock don't change reality eitherin practice apple hardware is just irrelevant toys, big phones with keyboards and none of the performance actually materialises, it throttles to shitagain, if the world actually needed apple they wouldn't be wasting money on those new nodes
>>735011576>It's an irrelevant toy because it runs professional software rather than games ok dude...
>>735011623if you wanted professional software you'd be doing it on windows with hardware that doesn't throttle
>>735011693Except it doesn't throttle because as I said before it is more efficient so can run full power even off battery.
>>735011576Apple has been making the best value technology items right now for the past few years. Everything they release is actually great for the price. Their laptops, their mac minis, their iphones and etc all literally destroy the competition in terms of performance, build quality and low prices. Sorry but your concept of Apple making overpriced toys is something from the jobs era but current era apple is actually amazing.
>>735011737then it'll be slow as shit, you're not changing laws of thermodynamics, actual heavy work isn't done on fucking laptops unless it's just data entrypc hardware gets to have massive heatsinks while apple just puts in piddly ones and tell their fans not to kick in until shit's boiling
>>735011896No. While other laptops need to be plugged in to get full performance modern Macs do not because they use more efficient chips.
>>735000063>guuuuuh I need 4k resolution even though 7 out of 8 frames are fake and the game still only hits barely above 80 fps>i bought this giant gpu brick for it and now I get to call everyone else poorfag to cope
>>735011938and laptops aren't where serious work is doneall they're good for is typing
>>735012047based
>>735000169>just buy a bunch of machines that cost 500 million each and then sit there because the raw materials are out of stock everywhere too
>>735000063whatever just give me the cunt roller
>>735012062They make more than laptops. The Mac Pro is a desktop that also uses the same technology and while they are expensive they are also powerful, efficient and quiet.
>>735000063No better than a snoy console then; No use-case. If it can't output 60fps on a full screen. There's no use-case.
>>735000063>being this fucking illiterateMeanwhile the PS5 is machine verified for 20FPS 720p
>>735011852>Apple has been making the best value technology itemsi don't think you understand what value means and how apple being in a locked ecosystem with less compatibility actively detracts from thatagain, if you're buying apple for 2x the price of a mediocre windows laptop or android phone just for it to be a glorified internet browser, social media and data entry machine then you're not getting any extra valueyou're not doing anything hardware demanding on anything that isn't an x86 desktop with the proper cooling and power delivery
>>735012331the macbook neo is $500 and absolutely smokes window laptops twice the price lmao
>>735012259looks like dogshit and runs like it too on both sets.
>>735012449smokes them at what? being a big phone? because that's all it can really do
>>735012552So what is this big important thing that you think that you can't do on a mac?
>>735012552Yes even an apple phone CPU is enough to destroy Intel and AMD running windows because they're years behind Apple in chip design and OS design.
>>735012153>mac proyou mean the almost 3 year old device that flopped and they haven't released one since? all your apple magic is confined to cooling starved shitboxes
>>735000063>30 fps 1080p>It's ok when Valve does itBunch of subhuman jeets
>>735000861>is everyone in this thread retarded?Yes.
>>735012649I see that you are just not understanding what more efficient means. Apple doesn't need refrigerated water cooling to run like your power hungry furnace PC does.
>>735012591Play actually new games that aren't constrained to their shitty apple versions that are like bloated consoles. Apple is not for gaming its for productivity and that's where its decent at for providing users with content like art and music production if you are into the arts or design. iOS is expensive garbage otherwise.
>>735012742>GamesOk enjoy your toy I suppose.
>>735012591what is this big important thing you're going to be doing on a laptop? it's worse at playing games and on par with everything weaker than that since muh efficiency isn't going to actually improve your experience, you're not going to be spending several hours away from a socket>>735012597it's not apple destroying it, it's new tsmc destroying old tsmcapple has nothing to do with it
>>735012852Actual work mainly.
>>735000861they're esl indians and eurosharts, they seethe endlessly about how dumb Americans are but can't parse basic English
>>735012717i see you're delusional enough to believe you're getting fucking 10x efficiency with applenothing compensates for the piddly fucking size of those things, those heatsinks are objectively too fucking small not to throttle
>>735012965That's what more efficient chip design gets you because Apple are like a decade ahead of the rest there.
>>735012869so data entrywhere apple offers nothing but battery life in an environment with sockets everywhere
>>735012717show me the performance you get in MHWilds on your apple box right now, all settings high with upscaling and framegen off
>>735013017Sure that but also Apples are good for basically anything art related.
>>735000126
>>735000126>perfect 4K 120fpsbro not even Sony's biggest dicksuckers will claim this is true, the biggest feature of PS5 is that they literally added 'Performance' and 'Graphics' modes because you can't have both on Playstation
>>735013068lol are you out of your mind? apple devices shit the bed on anything more complex than Photoshop
>>735013135Not really. All you've got is "no games" which is true however that is literally a toy.
>>735012996again, tsmcapple has been on better nodes than mainstream hardware since m3 because they just make middle class toys and aren't responsible for the world's digital infrastructure
>>735013337The chips themselves run cooler for the same or better performance meaning you *do not need* a massive cooling setup to run them.
>>735013372and running cooler means fucking nothing for sustained workloads where your tiny shitty heatsink gets saturated and your shit cooling system can't remove it faster than when it's generated
>>735013483This is obviously just magic to you. They are not the same silicon. They are not constrained by the same things. They can go fast without the massive power draw and cooling requirements that your PC requires.
>>735013550apple's cpus can't even out compete amd's in the same power bracket, what are you talking about
>>735013550no, you clearly think apple silicon is fucking magic here if anything you're not beating laws of thermodynamics no matter how much you've sucked Tim's cock
>>735013624When the silicon itself is more efficient, does not need as much power to run, does not put out as much heat as x86 at a basic level then there's nothing about physics that says it needs to have the same cooling setup to work well. You might be too young to know this but in the old days CPUs didn't need to be actively cooled at all.
>Valve intends the price to be competitive with PC gaming hardware rather than selling at a massive loss to gain market share.Kek, I think it's retarded that people are going to drop probably $800-$1,000+ on something that isn't worth that price point. The Switch 2 does 60FPS at 1080p and "4K" but the advantage of the Steam Machine is you get access to STEAM'S LIBRARY which is significantly better and larger than Nintendo's E-Shop. I guess using the Switch as a comparison isn't a good one, but the Steam Machine isn't going to be worth what I'm sure Valve is going to price it at. People realistically have to consider "Hmmm, $800-$1,000 VS getting an Xbox/PS5 for $200-$300." If they're trying to compete with PC market then it's going to be expensive. Gaming PC's are fucking expensive, even mid-tier ones will run you $1,000+ and a high end one will run you $2,000 easily. A lot of people, especially casual/console players won't be able to afford that. They need to target the Switch demographic or console demographic. $500-$600 is a bit more realistic.
Loving and hating Valve aside hardware situation is so hilariously jewed. Worst time to buy pc.
>>735000126snoys and steamies a match made in hell
>>735013687no, this tiny fucking turd of a heatsink with a blower fan is objectively not enough
>>735013993When you are putting out less heat you do not need a kilogram of copper bolted to it for it to run retard.
>>735013068>ghosting miniled>good for art
>>735014034are you legitimately retarded enough to think that this piece of shit is good enough for a sustained 20w load? because it's fucking not
>>735014265Think of it this way. Your argument is basically that the phone in your pocket is impossible because it has no fans and no heat sink and yet it can run games that would have before taken a fully fledged PC. That is the magic of microchips.
>>735000063This thing is never going to be cheaper than the equivalent entry level PC. It’s a boutique item for Gaben fanboys to display in their living room.
>>735014347phones are 5w devices that run specifically cut down workloads tailored for themand quit coping, those tiny shitboxes do in fact throttle, that tiny turd of a heatsink is not enoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptLWTCIItd4also, stop worshipping apple for tsmc's work or arm for that matterthe credit here belongs to tsmc and tsmc alonehttps://www.phoronix.com/review/apple-m2-zen4-mobilethis is the last time there was any node parity between apple and regular desktop silicon and apple got fucking mopped
>>735016159https://youtu.be/xLVHWbHmKk0This is what mobile games look like these days by the way. Literally look better than PC games from not even all that long ago.
>>735016414that has nothing to do with any supposed superiority of armbesides steam is going to expand to arm soon so developers will start caring about efficient use of silicon again or they're alienating the market
>>735016623Yes it is. The tiny rectangle in your pocket with basically no cooling and running off of a battery can compete with your Intel+NVidia PC from 10 years ago.
>>735014630Its console equivalent of PCs. Its for normies with outdated PC that want new machine to run their steam library games. Performance is secondary. Sure, prebuilt OCs might offer similar or even better performance, but then you'd have to research what the "Asrock mobo with GTX3060 and Ryzen 8-core 4.2 GHz" lingo actually means to compare options.Normie doesnt want that. Normie wants OC that works and is reasonably cheap. Normie buys Gabecube.
>>735016702because it's using much denser silicon? apple or arm didn't do that, tsmc didthe 980ti die has a density of 13 mil transistors/mm^2apple's newest shit uses process nodes with a density of 220 mil transistors/mm^2apple doesn't deserve any credit here
>>735016926It can do that while having basically no cooling at all. Now imagine what it can do if you do give it some basic cooling. That's where you get the mac.
>>735000292>horizon FW or Death Stranding 2ok but why would you play those games?
>>735016984are you a fucking bot? did you miss the video and the picture of apple toys running at 100+c?
>>735017039Yeah TLDW you're a faggot so you're just getting told what's what.
>>735017090the ceo of the toys you're shilling is a fucking faggot, you hypocritical niggeryou're too retarded and disingenuous to analyse evidence counter to your own claims while spouting out platitudes you don't fucking understanda true fucking cultist, so are you a woman or an actual cocksucking faggot, maybe a nigger or a brown since they also have elevated amounts of estrogen? i'm not talking to a white man here
>>735000642kek I remember when the PS5 had 8K on the box as a selling point just because it can technically output the resolution
>>735017349It has an 8k game
>>735017218>Maaah I don't like Apple so nothing they do is good waaaahWhatever retard.
>>735017645>I want to suck Tim's cock so I'll embellish how the only actual benefit of their hardware is battery life when a good power bank is $40
>>735017784>But what about my gay fanfiction huh? Bet your feel silly now Huh?
>>735017827>I lost but if I keep replying I'll keep my izzat
>>735018068What? Don't speak hindi sorry.
>>735014347Anon Apple has been openly embracing thermal throttling for years now.
>>735018223On their M series or on their Intel ones?
>>735018281Desktops, laptops, phones, and the ipad.
>>735018404Yeah but intel or M series? They do both but obviously the Intel one is x86 while the M series is A64.
>>735000063I genuinely do not understand the point of this thing. It won’t even be able to play Monster Hunter Wilds, when the PS5 can and is also cheaper.
>>735018449Do you have any evidence of ARM series not indulging in the same limited performance as Apple's other offerings? Like you say the phone has good graphics and all that but that's just GPU tech improving and getting better performance out of less input.
>>735018112>Apple shill is a newfagHow unexpected
>>735012709It's literally just a FEW Steamies in /v/ who are still defending the Steam Machine!
>>735000169Steam is essentially a free money machine and Valve doesn't want to take major risks.
>>735018551Arm chips are specifically designed to be low power draw, low heat, suitable for embedded systems in rough environments. They might still thermally throttle eventually but they also don't run anything like as hot as x86 does so it has far more thermal overhead before throttling is even required.
>>735000169Why would a pro-Israel goverment subsidize an anti-Rothschild company?
>>735000715Apple has had five years to leverage its chips for video games. It isn't happening despite the fact that the M series absolutely dominates the low power space and MacOS, for all its faults, is still miles better than x86 Windows 11 let alone ARM Windows. If you are buying a platform for gaming you're stuck with Windows. If you want to actually have a good laptop you're buying a Macbook.
>>735019230>If you are buying a platform for gaming you're stuck with Windows.wrongtux mogsits sole weakness is being a margin of error slower at dx12 on amd gpusonce vulkan sees adoption even windows users won't use dx12
>>735019787Lack of anti-cheat support means Linux will always be in the periphery of OS adoption.
>>735020004no, what it'll mean is that the developers will suck it up and have to work on server side anticheat instead of injecting spyware into your kernelit's only on the periphery if you consider chinks as some rational agents and not slaves to their slop
>>735020296 I hold no delusions about future Apple silicon support for video games. I think you should consider doing the same with Vulkan support and server-side anti-cheat. Both of those have been upcoming yet never materializing for a decade. Give it up.
>>735001140Can't believe they thought it was a good idea to put that thing in marketing.
>>735001140>flatscreen TV >no speakers, not even a soundbarThis is how normalfags live btw.
>>735020560what delusions? linux was nowhere 10 years ago, valve made proton in 2018 and ever since its growth has only accelerated and now it's at the point where you have to be a genuine retard to have issues with it, its sole problem is that it's fighting against windows inertia and it's still punching through itthings are happening already, studios are hiring people to work on linux compatibilitywe have unprecedented growth of linux and the future of gaming will also shift to include armit's fucking inevitable at this point
>>735019230I think the problem is that their GPUs kinda suck. M4 and M4 Pro are not really usable for gaming, only M4 Max is (and M4 Ultra would be if it existed). But M4 Max is expensive as fuck, and it doesn't even run at its max potential in the 14" MacBook Pro, unlike M4 Pro which works just as well in either of the sizes. Otherwise there would be a lot more interest in gaming. I don't think Mac desktops are that common at all, and it's all still expensive as fuck.
>>735021134Suck compared to dedicated GPUs I mean, of course they're good if compared to iGPUs, but you don't have the option of dedicated GPUs on Apple silicon in the first place
>>735000063>>735000642That's the bar for a game to be verified, that doesn't mean that less intensive things aren't running at 4k native, you monkeys. It's not a console, it's a PC.
>>735018849Trump is not on the Rothschild/Rockefeller team thoughbeit; they are Team Blue Jew whilst Trump is the pro Red Jew. Semetics but whatever. Also Trump does have ties with the Italian mobs rather than any of the Israeli mobs regardless and is a Jesuit trained thus a Catholic Joo.
>>735000063>snoygger being fucking retarded
>>735012153Mac Pro is apparently written off by Apple according to all the rumors, they want you to use Mac Studio instead.
