Why did it flop?
>>735001798Midathon
Chuds keep winning
It didn't
They beg. They plead."Bungie, they need you!" they cry. Why won't you play it?And I don't even respond. For "No" to pass my lips would be an action.And I, do nothing.
>>735001798I told them to flop
because gen z is full of effete soft dick pussies who can't handle pvp and would rather play slop like arc raiders
>>735002013posting shitty memes is still doing something
>>735001798racism
>>735001798OLFslop
>has to change his tactic because jannies cleaning upyou know a game is bad when not even this place wants to hear about it
Sisters... when will Bungie save us? I don't want to be alone...
>>735001798>Pointless Bungie acquisition>Acquire ZERO talent>Only have some Bungie IP and whatever was on their servers, quick what's the biggest IP they have to make back investment with an asset flip>Now presenting Marathon: an asset flip by !bungie devs using Destiny 2 assets>>735002132If it wasn't released within 1 or 2 years immediately after the original, then even the involvement of the original creator (and rarely can a collaborative work actually be distilled into just one creator, rather than the irreplaceable dynamic at the time of creation) would make something into OLF.You can't cross the same river twice, you are not the person who created your work all of those years ago.
made with the modern audience in mind
Filtered.
what we tahm bout bruh why u so obsessed with ratings and charts that ish weird bruh
Because it's shit.
OG Marathon chads keep winning
>>735002883nobody who claims to care about the original marathon has played the original marathon or was even alive when it releasedsaying this as someone who borrowed a friend's powermac in 1995 specifically to play the game
>>735002883all twelve of you?
>>735002958I'm the only one on this wretched board that actually played Marathon 1 and 2, on Aleph One. Infinity sucked though, so did Halo.Marathon 2026 is great by the way.
>>735001798Because it's broken, ugly and has an air of half assed about it and the only reason it isn't doing even worse is it has Bungie's name attached to it.
BLASTING
>>735001798Who the fuck wants to play as a nigger cyborg played completely straight?
not enough lgbtq+ representation
>>735003000So the same as this game's player count in a month
BLAST: HADFORM: RETURNED TOLIGHTNING: IN A BOTTLEVIBE: SHIFTEDPLAYERCOUNT: SKYROCKETING
funny how even if its a 40/30/30 split (and i Doubt it is because who the fuck is playing on xbox and weve already seen the sales rankings on ps5) thats only like 150k players at peak hours and bleeding thousnds dailya week after releaseit can only get worse from here /i cant imagine how sony is going to handle this whole situation
>>735003146legs status?????
>>735003097Leave my nigga alone
because it's ugly and made by troons, and the bungie that made halo 1-3 is dead.
>get the slightest dollop of cyberpunk flavour handed to you>SAAR TRANNY NIGGER LEFTIST SATANIC PROPAGANDA SAARkwab
>>735003283>Uh excuse me guys but the game has robots in it so it can't be bad actually
>>735003283it is quite literally made by troons
>>735001798Typical extraction shooter with a shit UI, a price for entry, and nothing really worth note in general.
>>735003283>cyberpunk is when you steal your artstyle from onions packaging
>>735003329>Typical extraction shooterThey did a no no and bungie still has russians banned from playing their games which is 60% of the extraction shooter audience.You are quite literally looking at the maximum they could have even done with the marathon playerbase.
>>735001798Honest answer - the optimal experience requires 2 other friends that also bought the game.
>>735003097Everyone in quake 3 because keel matches the hitbox
>>735003358If you think Russians aren't playing the game you're sorely mistaken.
>>735003358Then why do I keep getting filled with retarded rusniggers that assume everyone can understand their slave tongue?
>>735002430>You can't cross the same river twice, you are not the person who created your work all of those years ago.>BS slop thread about current thing>anon drops wisdomSometimes you're alright /v/
escape from tarkov already exists
>>735003365friendslop is how you convert a 40 dollar purchase into a 120 purchase baseline.
>>735003335>steal your artstyle from onions packaging>not Buro Destruct, Nick Philips, GitS, Mirror's Edge and WipeOutlurk for 735 more aeons
>>735003506>Here's a bunch of games we might have liked to have looked like but instead we got foggy vomit
>>735003506>look at all these far more competent artstyles we totally copied those and not our estrogen containers
nuBungie deserves to fail, simple as
>>735001798>make a mediocre game in one of the most oversaturated genres>insult your audience at every opportunity for not buying the game>made by troons>gameplay copy pasted from their other flop of a game, Destiny2>You are supposed to buy it because at some point they used to work on halo
>>735003506the only remotely apt comparison is Wipeout because GiTs and ME (even at it's most woke in catalyst) dont look like troonshit.
>>735003180your legs are OK
>>735003506Even modern GitS design style would be more interesting.
>>735001798Normal people don't want to play extraction shooters
>>735003646Cool it with the antisemitism
>>735002038>crying because bo one wants to play youre gamelike, just, make a good game next time, or something. idk.
>$40>4 maps and 7 characters with 3 abilities each>1 game modeHorrible deal. I played the server test and liked it and think the art direction is 10/10 but everyone I've personally talked to about the game agrees that it's overpriced for the amount of content - especially if it's gonna die within a year. >>735003000kekked and checked
>>735001798It got attention for skinwalking a respected 90s franchise and turned it into something literally completely fucking different. The "all publicity is good publicity" shit should have died eons ago but chalk this up as another piece of evidence that no, getting attention for being fucking weird and confusing and not what people expected a marathon game to be was never gonna get it off on the right foot.The real reason is because all this greedy GaaS money grab shit is competing with the audience against everything else that exists. Is it better than league, marvel legends, overwatch or counterstrike? No? Then people aren't gonna fucking play vs those other timesinks. Same reason there never was a WoW killer despite a dozen+ games all hyped up to take that role. People were already content with WoW and furthermore once they had out in so many hours and made friends in it etc that sunk cost fallacy kept them in place. Same thing happens asking anyone to stop playing some sweaty multiplayer thing for something else. It's like asking someone to cheat on a boyfriend/girlfriend, you had better be fucking incredibly, obviously way better an upgrade for them to throw away the other thing they already had going. Marathon is not an obviously way better experience than other established shit.
>>735003719Looks cool
>>735002013What happened to poor chuddha?
Extraction shooters are fucking gay and cheap. It's just small bites of cheap thrills with no story, no characters anyone gives a shit about, no coherent plot, just a bunch of retards running around robbing and killing for a few months until all the shit you stole gets wiped out anyway. What is even the point of this garbage genre? Soulslikeslop and Kikestraction shooters are the worst things to happen to gaming in recent memory.
well?
>>735003945He realized that Slay the Spire 2 is woke and had an aneurysm because he can't post it in these threads anymore
>>735003953It's pure pvp gameplay. Carebear movie slop eater zoomoid like you are will never understand the appeal.
>>735004031>PvP gameplay is where I don't actually have to use any skill to win, I just abuse whatever is most broken to cheap shot people
>>735003990>GCJtroon copingMarathonslop lostStS2 won
marathon UI reminds me of the finger gloves meme.
hardcore extraction pvp consists of shooting other people in the back of the head while they're stunlocked looting containers, then dying to someone camping extract for the last 20 minutes who was watching porn on their second monitor. So nobody gets any real pvp and pve fizzles out like a wet fart after the honeymoon
>>735004143there is nothing hardcore about this stupid zoomer game. Let me know when the game lets you load the wrong ammo in a mag :)
>>735003990Friendly fire? 3 of the marathon characters you play as are troonsDoes your owner know you are doing this?
great job letting troons develop your 250 mil game, retards
>>735004068What a shitty carebear cope.Full loot drop unrestricted pvp games are all about skill and high roll. If you're good you can kill better equipped opponent and be rewarded for it. Gear mathematical advantage means nothing. You can be jumped, you can be ganked you can be counter ganked you can be outskilled by shitter. This is pure PVP because it has psychological factor no other compslop has.
>>735004283I don't think that you have every actually played a good PvP game.
>>735001798Cryo Archive will be Marathon's Vault of Glass, Bungie will save the game in just 2 more weeks, trust the plan
>>735004283full loot pvp isn't skill based because there is always gear disparity or always elements of luck considering whoever sees who first has the advantage.>muh gear fear so thrilling i might lose my stuff!!entirely psychological and by your own addition completely worthless because the ttk is so low anyways a grey shitter pistol is as effective as a gold AR.
>>735004296>I don't thinkI don't think your "good PvP game" without any death penalty is good at all unless it is quake 3.
>>735004376For PvP to be good you need to feel that you lost because you got outplayed not because the other guy is playing the broken character using the broken weapon to sucker punch you.
>>735004283According to your logic Runescape is the greatest game ever made. Why arent you playing that?
>>735004364>full loot pvp isn't skill basedThere is no need to parrot carebear cope. We already have seen how 6 anons from /vg/ tarkov general tried to stream snipe a streamer in shit gear and he soloed them all live.
>>735003719Literally just play Neotokyo.
>>735004432>There is no need to parrot carebear cope. We already have seen how 6 anons from /vg/ tarkov general tried to stream snipe a streamer in shit gear and he soloed them all live.lmaovid or story?
it didn't though
>>735004432>man who plays videogames for a living is good at videogameslol i would hope so
>>735004417>For PvP to be good you need to feel that you lost because you got outplayedYeah bro. You were totally not outplayed. Evil guy with OP gear sucker punched (You) because you have no situational awareness. This would NEVER happen in real pvp high skill game cause he played unfair and got carried by gear against frfr!Carebear classic 101.
>>735004575>t. shitter who can't win a real fight so loves it when the game just lets him cheapshot whoever
>>735004593>real fight>OBEY DAMN RULES Lol.
>>735004618>Good PvP is when one side has a bunch of unfair advantages and you die to bullshit all the time
>>735004575just admit you like clubbing seals then complain why nobody wants to play your KoS slop when your game does a concord.
>>735001798https://files.catbox.moe/qr5s4y.mp4reminder all these threads and posts are made by a handful of incredibly dedicated schizos
>>735001798Is it dead yet?
>>735002072The teachings of chuddhism are not about never doing anything, but about consciously choosing between action and inaction.
>>735004669No I don't like clubbing seals. There is nothing to gain. The main pot will always to high roll.And btwJust admit you love SBMM.Oh wait you can't.
>>735004714>What mental illness is this?
>>735004714>swear up and down for months the game is the next concord (a game that failed to break 1k players and died in a week)>Game comes out and is obviously not the next concord>have literal meltdowns and spam nonstopYep, shartyfags lost as usual
>>735004831>Game has lost a quarter of its playerbase in a week
>>735004656Good PvP is when one side has a bunch of unfair advantages yet you can kill them using skill and tactic. Where psychological aspect of PVP exist.
>>735004831try telling sony your 30k player count is worth another 100m dollars to advertise the next season.
>>735004862>goalpost shift
>>735004874No it isn't which is why literally every single real life PvP tournament is very specifically balanced.
>>735004890>i saw a chad and shot first that means the game is balanced
>>735004892If it keeps going at that rate that's 1 month to 0.
Keep saying it faggot
>>735004910>every single real life PvP tournament is very specifically balanced.PvP tournament are not good PVP, cyberzoomer. It's comp dogshit. Even EVE pvp tournaments are above any "real life PVP tournaments" .Same why Kenjutsu > Kendo
FLOPATHON
>>735005038>Sports aren't good PvPRetard.
>>735004862>>735004890>What constitutes the next concord when from being dead on arrival to "it'll die eventually in the future"Speaks for itself, you lost lol.
>>735005120>Well the game died in a month rather than the first week so actually it did really well
>>735005142>Every game that doesn't "do really well" is concord nowStarting to think you guys are too underage to remember what made concord the event that it was
>>735003085OFF AGAIN
>>735005181What point are you even trying to make? "The game died but it took slightly longer than this other game". Ok, and?
>>735004075>woke game wonjust like with ARC Raiders
>>735005201So "concord" criers were wrong, you lost, learn to read little nigga and you won't have to ask dumb questions
>>735005232So all you want is an "ackshually" while not actually saying anything of substance.
>>735005265>Expecting something of substance in return when not providing any himselfOdd, desperate even.
>>735005308Ok good that you admit you haven't actually got anything to say.
>>735005326Good that you didn't deny you don't either. Almost like we're just shitflinging on 4chan, only difference is you're lacking in any self awareness
>>735005349>Meaningless animal noises with no deeper human purpose
>>735004940TWOMOREWEEKS
>>735005308hyoons hyoons
>>735005362nta but searching for deep substance in a fucking marathon thread on 4chan at 4am is fucking retarded lol
>>735005452>More mooing from the cattle
>>735005057Sport is fake trash, yes. So your beloved SBMM.
what a disaster. anyone coping that 50k players tops is somehow going to keep a 250mil budget game alive is huffing that good super strength copium. absolutely dead.
>>735005487What do you mean by "fake trash"?
>>735001798lol @ metacritic being lower than the most severe "critics"
Game should have been primarily a roguelite/like single player game. More levels, more environments, more enemies, and so on. The multiplayer should have been more like Halo; levels with weapon placements and maps. Their "extraction" mode could have just been another mode to play. Instead they focused on the wrong game mode, they did it to themselves
>>735005508Not real PVP. Bad PVP. Staged PVP. Rigged PVP.
two more weeks right chuds?
>>735005560What is rigged about it?
>>735004764
Btw Dark Souls invasion is better PVP than your favorite sport even though it's not full loot.
are your levels high enough for cryo archives? tap in, get the loot, extract and let's see who really runs tau ceti iv
>>735005549wrong, they should've just kept it as is, but let you make your very own Halo mastahchief OC donot steal and they'd be swimming in cash. but this was beyond them. because owning ze choodeans in der kooltoor krieg was more imporant.
>>735005638>owning ze choodeans in der kooltoor kriegThis literally only happened in your head
>>735004714reminder that you need to go back
>>735001798unless you make your game a coddling dadfest like arc raiders, extraction shooters hold very niche appeal. they probably hoped this would be the one to break that barrier, but it's simultaneously too safe in that it doesn't treat new ground, and simultaneously takes too much time and investment to get in toit's yet another example of a game that seasoned gamers already knew was never going to be successful but out of touch suits kept going with it anyway
>>735005696But if it did it would be a good thing.
>>735001798Because it was very obvious from just watching the intro movie, that it was supposed to be a bigger game and not just an extraction shooter.It looks like they had to scrap it and turn it into an extraction shooter half way through development and just give you 1 minute of all the story and shit like that at the beginning and scrap the rest.
>>735005696yes yes whatever does the libiewibberie o algo.
>shartyfags Good grief.
It's a have fun or get shit on game
>>735005638I personally say roguelike because when I played the demo that was all I could think of when playing. The environments were cool and well detailed, the enemies were (at a minimum) interesting to fight against. It made me instantly think of how fun it would be to play in the game with randomized environments, with semi-random weapons, finding the "loot" and getting out. Maybe finding "relics" that give stat boosts, etc. A sort of extraction shooter roguelike single player hybrid. It would atleast have been more interesting than the umpteenth "get shot in the back by a camper extraction game".
>>735005295 (me)Reminder
>>735005856the problem with that is it already exists albeit in a isometric turn based version called quasimorph.
>>735004420>According to your logic Runescape is the greatest game ever made.But It is.
>>735005856Problem is this would have overlapped too much with Destiny. And despite being very lethal and a powerful third factor in a fight, UESC aren't that interesting or dynamic to fight to support a game on PvE alone.If they add more interesting enemies then yes, that would work as a game mode.
>>735004420>Runescape is the greatest game ever madeCorrect.
>>735004068Skill issue
>>735006112>proving his point
>>735006138Are you retarded?
>>735001798IT DIDN'T FLOP, IT JUST DIDN'T SELL THE SAME AMMOUNT AS PREVIOUS B UNGIE GAMES!!! STOP TRUSTING STEAM CH ARTS FOR FUCK SAKE, IT'S NOT THE ONLY PLATFORM, YOU GUYS JUST HATED IT FROM THE START, IF THIS WAS FROM SOFT YOU IDIOT WOULD BE ALL OVER IT, THE GAME HAS NOT EVEN BEEN OUT FOR A MONTH, IT BROKE TOP 3 STEAM SALES, I DETHRONED RESIDENT EVIL REQUIEM!!!
>>735006187It's unfair to use knife in melee cause other player didn't use knife. He was in disadvantage. This isn't fair skill base PVP.
>>735006187He's not, no.
>>735004283The problem always comes from the fact these games have extremely fast times to kill. It doesn't really matter if you're a better player with better gear if some faggot rushes you down with a shotgun and can 1 or 2 tap you. Having gear "matter" does create different problems like high gear players being "unkillable" but like, yeah that's kind of the entire point. The devs can balance the high tier gear, but they don't for some reason. Ever play ARCRaiders? Before a recent update the level 1 stitcher (therotically the worst weapon in game) was actually the best weapon in the game because it had more DPS and damage than anything else. It was the easiest weapon to make and killed even the "high tier" shield in only a single magazine. Utterly ridiculous balance. Devs just don't even try to make their games right anymore I think.
>>735006260Also the other guy was in a vent while he wasn't. They should do it fairly and both go in a vent first.
equitable distribution 4/4 is going to make me murder someone
>>735005789Kill yourself shartynigger, you're brown
>>735006307>Being able to turn invisible and then just walk up to people and knife them in the face is the absolute height of skilful play actually
>>735003447Tarkov is many times worse than raiders and marathon let’s not even bring that slop up anymore
>>735006421are you deaf?
>>735006467Nope.
>>735006467even if he is deaf, he can still read your post anon. don't you mean "are you blind?"
>>735006421invis doesn't last very long and announces itself with a sound effect, plus footsteps are easily heard. Have you even played the game?
>>735002132Why is there a blonde milf in the picture?
>>735006523>You see my guy I pressed the "I win" button. OUT FUCKING SKILLED NOOB
>>735006572Outskilled
>>735006517Lol>>735006480Then you shouldn't have issues hearing footsteps
>>735006713>Skills required: Press a button to activate OP mode.
>one of the worst games released this decade made by a dev universally hated in gaming by a publisher shat on by every gamer alive is flopppingThis is what true happiness is like
wish i could spam global text chat after getting downed, feels kind of empty just dying and there being zero interaction
26k on a weekendit's so fucking dead, zero growth, playerbase shrinking.
HELP BLAST HAVERS IT'S AT 26k I AM PANICKING , HOLD ME BLAST HAVERS.
>it's le deadLol keep maldinghttps://youtu.be/7jg79jA6o1c?is=3DaBWNob7IvB10OB
>>735001798Any Sony executive who had more faith in Concord and Marathon than Helldivers and Stellar Blade should 100% be fired.
>>735003180GOT
>>735006729This would make for great ryona if the characters were hot instead of hideous.
>didn't beat destiny 2 numbers>did worse than the shittiest destiny 2 DLC>Bungie destroyed their cash cow for a shitty extraction shooterL M A OMAOF2P or EoS next season
>>735006112is the connection quality of their servers poor or is the hit detection inconsistent by default?that other player was firing continuously through a small choke point while you had barely any health left and the stab animation allowed you to negate all damage to perform two stabs while traveling through the gun fire
>>735001798I honestly expected them to crack 60k this weekend but they simply couldn’t. Thats fucking wild. End of next week they won’t crack 40k
>>735007343He missed
>>735006298Arc riders isn't really pvp centric game according to devs so not really surprising it has wacky balance. Entire full loot genre is hard to balance anyway. Those type of games always need some time to stabilize if devs don't abandon them.
>>735007316You lost Destiny nigger LOL
>>735007316Bungie destroyed their cashcow for Destiny, a shitty numbers shooter.
>>735001919The most successful game in the genre is a swedish wokefest plastered with rainbow flags
>>735007316>the weekend peaks for their two biggest games COMBINED would be mediocreGrim.
>>735003154I'm honestly wondering what's gonna happen after the 4th map comes out, cause having a destiny 2 dungeon/raid with pvp sounds like cancer.
>>735007790>>735007837Extreme level of ASSBLAST detected>>735007923If they didn't delay destiny update i guarantee you it would've been higher than maraflop
>>735001798It simply didn't flop and no amount of chudposting will change that
never played the original marathons but I remember seeing them at physical PC games stores back when they still existed so there's a slight bit of sentimental value attached and a deep sense of solidarity towards its original fans who just got a raped sequel no one asked for.
>>735005230>bungie isnt wokelol. someone post the trans Darth Vader shit from destiny.
>>735003283But we know for an objective fact they have tranny leads and little brown faggots for writers
>>735005295I wonder why Marathon sucks.Must be the LIVE SERVICE MODEL!
>>735007837>destroyed their cashcow for DestinyThe Destiny games have sold way more than the 343 Halo gamesThey did the right choice at the time
>>735007978brother this game took 6 years and had a larger budget than Battlefield 6 which is widely considered by EA to not be in super great shape right now DESPITE the fact that the BF6 playerbase is healthier than Marathon's is on top of being the best selling BF ever.Would love to be at sony corporate right now trying to explain how we pissed away 250m to make a destiny spinoff mode with no legs.
>>735005295cocksucking faggots will still get mad at (you) for bringing it up at all. >Why are you making it political chud>stop the culture war!Maybe these retards running the show over at Bungie should of taken that advice first.
>>735008120>than the 343 Halo gamesAnd we're talking about Bungie so that's irrelevant. Bungie could have just kept making Halo forever and riding that money juggernaut but instead chose slow death.
>>735001798Is it not allowed to? Can't a strong independent game flop in peace?
>>735008138Battlefield 6 is not a flop either
Hoe big are Bungies?Current amountd of player are sustainable if their team is small enough
>>735008138250m? They paid 3.6bil to buy bungieThey spent 500m on concord too
>>735002430>If it wasn't released within 1 or 2 years immediately after the original, then even the involvement of the original creator (and rarely can a collaborative work actually be distilled into just one creator, rather than the irreplaceable dynamic at the time of creation) would make something into OLF.Glad we came to an agreement.
>69
When it's the first season reset? I doubt next season will have more than 20k players
>>735005295>pitbull dad
>>735008506Haha funny number.
>>735005232not really. the thing is youre not taking the *size* of the budget into account. concord was supposed to be a flagship franchise with a tv show and shit. funny enough, bungie helped kill that project by helping with the hype. concord had hundreds of millions of dollars behind it and thats the reason its getting compared here. Sony has about $4.1 billion riding on bungie to make a critical success like halo was 10m on one console). they have yet to deliver in like, 5 years, plus they killed multiple games in the process and killed off potential revenue for Sony.
I see all of the streamers saying that the game isn't bad but that they've had no inclination to continue playing it.If it's ugly and unsatisfying and you don't really want to keep going, doesn't that make it a bad game?>I'm not the target audience.This would be a fair point if the target audience were eating it up.
because games should be brief breaks, not second job.
>>735008138>Would love to be at sony corporate right now trying to explain how we pissed away 250m to make a destiny spinoff mode with no legsmake sure you do not mention how much they put on the studio itself
>>735005295>evil always fails over timeHow can you be blackpilled knowing that the same corruptive force that drives evil is that which ensures its own slow death? When Sony comes in and guts this studio and bans them to making mobile apps it will be truly righteous.
>>735008506CHUDS LOST!
>>735005837rollerfags are so incredibly embarrassing, console fps was a mistake
>>735003283indians literally worship demons you retarded faggot lmao
>>735008506Chudbros???
>>73500850667>6767>6767>67
>>735002083Adding two more nozzles would make it six million times better
>miraculously find a key in a run>miraculously make it to a flare room full of locked chests>open one of them with my one rare, expensive key>a bunch of random grey and green loot and a single blue chem grenadeWhat's the fucking point
>>735009023Lockbox keys arent rare
>>735008791>spiteful moron completely fails to understand the religion he's larping as being a part ofYou are the 4chan equivalent of those retards who suddenly decide they're a Buddhist one day and then proceed to change literally nothing about how they live their lives.
>>735001798Because people are deeply uncurious and unwilling to meet the game on its own terms.
>>735009041They seem rare enough to me and they cost a fucking arm and a leg in uncommon salvage from the armory
Concord at least had Bazz
>>735001798because talentless, woke women made it
>>735001798why the fuck would they dredge up a by now forgotten Mac shooter from the 90s and turn it into an extraction shooter?
>>735009098>cynical live action trend chasing microtransaction hell game>art
>>735009098>you should pay for art you don't like.no i am not doing that.
>>735009112They are green tier if you keep playing you'll find a bunch
>>735009182Marathon is kind of the precursor of the Halo series. Halo took a lot of story elements from the original Marathon games.
>>735009078>anon falls for false ChristianityI truly enjoy when the devil fails and goodness prevails.
>>735009318you're not a true gamer if you didn't give marathon a chance
>>735008791Civilizations fall. Countries collapse. Tyrants take control. People die by the tens of millions. It happens time and time again.It's the most obvious statement in the world, but I feel like a lot of people need to hear it: >You win by winning. A blue city imploding under its tax policy isn't winning. Some wokoid getting stabbed to death by a felon who was let out by a soft-on-crime prosecutor and a soft-on-crime judge that he voted for isn't winning. A studio going under isn't winning. Winning is when the tax policy is fixed and the city is recovering, the judge and prosecutor are on death's row and the days of public threats being allowed to roam free are over, and the studios have fired the problem employees and changed course. The former doesn't necessarily follow the latter. You should know by now that these people respond by blaming everyone but themselves and doubling down. Again, sometimes, the bad guys win.>How do we beat the bad guys?The fundamental problem is that the people who should be putting a stop to this pride themselves on not being tribal whereas the problem causers will hire, promote, fund, and protect their friends while blacklisting, containing, and defunding their enemies, When one group is basically just rolling over while the other attacks aggressively, differences in competency, ethics, etc. don't even matter at that point.Realize that tolerance is a sucker's """virtue""" and become tribal.
>>735009619*the latter doesn't necessarily follow the former
>>735009382yes i know but including me there's like 8 people in the world who even remembers marathon and halo hasn't been relevant for years
>>735009717If you were in any way invested in the Halo lore then you were at least aware that Marathon existed since it gets referenced all the time in Halo.
>>735009619The only winning is going to heaven. The only losing is going to hell. Everything else that happens on Earth is the result of the fall of man. Evil happens on Earth but can never go beyond it, the victims of evil on Earth leave the perpetrators behind to suffer for all of eternity. The good win and the evil lose.
>>735009773no it doesn't.
>>735009874The Marathon symbol is literally on the side of the Pillar of Autumn.
>>735009493well it doesn't even happen with actual art, no art lover buys a painting they don't like. it's just delusional.
>>735009182Because they have literally nothing else. Making new IPs is shareholder poison, the Halo name is tainted, the Destiny name is tainted, and Marathon is the only other thing they can shill to shareholders as "sequel to a beloved, nostalgic series that STILL generates buzz today!" (accompanied with pointing at the still intact lore deep dive sites, Mandalore review of the series, etc.).It's a hat-trick of desperation: Nostalgia baiting due to lack of fresh ideas, scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel for remotely marketable IPs, and trend-chasing by making it an extraction shooter (a genre already saturated and on its way out due to the long dev cycles).
>>735009874>anon is an underage b& and doesn't remember when the Halo 3 Legendary planet was Marathon Mars
>>735003990>No idpol gay flag>No tranny flag>No weird alphabet flagSo, just old school gay shit?
>>735009897>>735009938and random meaningless symbols in the background allegedly made halo players discover marathon the game?
FUCK YOU CHUDS
>>735010050>Literally a direct reference to the previous game is meaninglessIt's not the only thing too. UNSC, ONI, both Marathon references.
>>735010050Yes.There was also the Security Helmet which was a Marathon reference.
>>735009867The Bible doesn't advocate for just sitting there while evil rules over your community. In the Bible, God actually punishes people for sparing evil.That's why we spent a thousand years executing our criminals and developing the best civilization that humanity has ever seen. Imagine if they had your mindset. Civilization might not have even survived the Muslim onslaught.
>>735010050no mandalore made a video about it.
What would it take to bring chuds back to the table and buy games again?
>>735010256i dunno, it seems they are having more fun destroying them threw inaction then actually playing them
>>735010129you should focus on getting yourself saved and those around you by spreading the gospel. THAT is the great commision, not trying to fix the unfixable. revenge belongs to the LordEphesians 6:12>For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places
>>735010315>inactionMore like literally spamming obsessively
>>735010256hot sexy bitches and bad ass bros
>>735010354it's part of the fun i suppose. he wouldn't be doing that if he had a game to play.
>Siege was dead because it had 80,000 concurrent.>Helldivers II is the most popular game in the world because it has 40,000 concurrent.>The Finals is respectably niche because it has 20,000.>Marathon is dead because it has 55,000 concurrent. All of this shit is so stupid bro!
>>735010129Actually the Bible advocates turning the other cheek to those who persecute you and not fighting evil directly but instead spreading the word of God to ensure people meet God in heaven rather than live well on Earth. There is literally no Bible passage that calls for any resistance of the evil's of man, Jesus instead calls for you to allow evil to prevail on Earth but bring souls with you to heaven instead.
Normies can't handle it
>>735010452>anon doesn't understand scalingSony spent nearly 4billion american dollary doos plus hundreds of million production/operational costs to develop Marathon. They are now billions in the hole over this one investment and it is not even going to return its own production cost over its lifetime run.Bungie will be lucky if it isn't dissolved. At this point the only thign that will save them is sunk cost fallacy on Sony's part giving them chance after chance.
I've consulted the top experts of /v/ and they all agree that marathon will be dead in 2 (two) weeksjust two more weeks guys
>>735010256>how can we make people buy cars again? asks bird feed salesman
Go woke, get broke am I right fellas???
>>735010452>>Marathon is dead because it has 55,000 concurrent.Hey retard this is GAAS slop. It is supposed to be making a lot of money for forever. Upkeep is not cheap, paying servers, especially 60 HZ servers is expensive. Bungie has cost Sony 4 billion and more for a game that underperformed. EA canned the studio that sold Veilguard and that sold more than Marathon. I can see Sony keeping Bungie afloat because they're retarded nips but that won't make this any less than a flop. They spent millions these past three weeks bribing every streamer to shill their game and it has done nothing.
>>735010452It depends on how it correlates to the expectations of a chud
>>735010326>>735010460How's dodo bird boomer Christianity working out for Christians? Oh right, there's literally no government in the world that gives a shit about Christians literally being slaughtered, including the Vatican. We've gone from being the most powerful force in the world to not even having an ounce of power in our own neighborhoods. Yeah, I'm sure God approves of that. Like 60% of the Old Testament is dedicated to telling you to stop the invaders and end feminism, BTW. If you don't realize this, it's because you've spent years getting the feminized hallmark card version of the Bible from your pastor instead of reading it yourself.If you're a Christian, you'll see the state that our countries have fallen into since your approach took over as a sign. This is not the Christianity that's survived for 2000 years, and you're not a Christian. You're a follower of the seven virtues. An anti-Christ.
>>735010691>comparing a single player game from 2022 to gaas always online sloppa that released 2 weeks agojeet, I...>inb4 I was merely pretending to be retarded you took the bait teeheewaow!
>>735010947>old testamentChristianity is about the teachings of Christ anon, you know which testament those are in? The old testament is about the Jews.
>>735010691>elden ring has more players NOW than marathon >a 4 year old single player >marathon had 27k >>735008506
>>735010452Don't bother arguing with these retardsI doubt any multiplayer game can come oit with a 40 dollars price tag and make such ccu>>735010572Sony paid 3.6 billion (that magically turned into 4) exclusively for Marathon and nothing elseOk retard
>>735001798bad artstyle and fantasy no one identifies with
>>735010947>vaticancatholicism is not Christianity. you are out of your depth. the state of the world today is due to people abandoning Christianity and being flooded with foreigners is literally described in the Bible as divine punishment; if you'd actually read the Bible you'd know that. read the Gospel according to John (KJV) at the very least before ever posting on the topic again
>>735010806Community run 100 tick servers were the bare minimum for goldsrc games in the late 90's/early 2000's. Server's don't need to run graphics or anything and can be complete toasters and still run fine.
>>735010691>-95% players>still more players than marathonBrutal.
>>735011062are you ... making collages?
why do people treat bungie as "small indie game company please understand"
>>735011175Yeah why?
>>735008506STILL.NOT.A.FLOP.
Chart Chuddies have been exposed!!!
I don't know why people jerk off over these highly volatile fresh numbers that mean nothing. Look at the numbers when they've normalized a couple weeks from now, once the honeymoon phase is over. Look what the player count bounces back to when the first content update releases, and then see how quickly it falls, and where it stabilizes after that. Judging a GAAS title by the first week is retarded, no shit it'll hit an early peak and then fall off hard, that's what happens with every single fucking game that releases.
>>735010040>just traditional all-American sodomy, like in the good ole days
>>735009493If I look at a dog turd, can smell its a dog turd I dont need to eat the turd to know its a piece of dog shit
>>7350055903 out of 4 times he said "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?".
>>735011458go tell that to the Sony executives who lost 3.8 billion just to get this mid trash instead of the next Halo
>>735001798Just look at it
>>735011425I remember that name. Thats the guy who was defending veilguard as if his life depended on it
>>735011290nta, but why are you so obsessed with a dying game?
>>735011062>Marathon and nothing elsethey may as well havedestiny certainly isnt making them any money
>>735011425this guy seems to be on every side of this
>>735011458>I don't know why people jerk off over these highly volatile fresh numbers that mean nothing.I know it means it is not going well if even after 3 shill campaigns for 3 week straight, you cannot beat your Thursday peak. We are making fun of Marathon because the numbers will only go down from here on out, not go up.
>>735011062>Sony paid 3.6 billion (that magically turned into 4) exclusively for Marathon and nothing elseThey paid $3.6billion for the studio, Bungie. Bungie then was paid another few hundred million dollars in production costs and operational budget and marketing to create Marathon.>nothing elseThat's right. They get nothing else by purchasing Bungie. Destiny is not earning any significant revenue anymore. Bungie does not own Halo and so Halo isn't part of their back catalogue. The original Marathon games are not big sellers and were free at one point. The Bungie purchase only gets them Marathon for new profit prospects to start to make back their investment. Now it has failed on that front.This leaves Sony with choices:>bite the bullet and hope if they hand Bungie another few hundred million dollars and years of devtime they can try again and maybe make a successful game next time>drastically overhaul Bungie to try to make it profitable by taking away their ability to make whatever they want and instead put them on known quantity projects like making assets for Last of Us 17 or working on gun physics for a Resistance remake or whatever
>>735011287more convenient for the conversation. >why are you picking on such a small studio like bungie, (who also made games with 10 million players peaks and use that as a selling point of their other games, but ignore that, theyre still a small studio with 800+ employees and was bought out for 3.6 billion) STOP IT!!
>/v/ told me it will flop like concord>it didn't flop like concordapologize
>>735011664xhe is a jeetshillhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/CYBERPUNK%20ATMOSPHERIC%20KINOGRAPHY/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/assassin%20shell%20marathon/
>>735011287>>735011821>Marathon is a passion projecthahahahah
>>735001798>Gryonline.pl>Gamesurf>Gamekult>Screen Rantliterally who? these are reviews written by chatgpt lmaoevery credible journalist is waiting for the content drop next week like bungie asked them to and we'regonna be looking at a bunch of 9s and 8s
>>735011664>DyingTook me 8 seconds to find a match 20 minutes ago
>>735012324and the cope of the year award goes to...
>>735011758>Bungie then was paid another few hundred million dollars in production costs and operational budget and marketing to create Marathon. Source: your ass>They get nothing else by purchasing Bungie. Destiny is not earning any significant revenue anymore.Source: your ass
https://gaminglayoffs.com/Soon...
>>735012408>Studio don't cost more money once they are bought You really believe this? Bungie was bought in 2022
>>735011589In terms of investment loss,this beats concod by continent-wide. Including aquisition and development cost concord hovered around 500m. Bungie was bought for 3.4b and was losing sony millions daily that bungie had o fire hundreds of devs already to keep sony from fully taking over. Then now add another alleged 250m into marathon. bungie clearly hoped marathon to be succesful enough to stall the inevitable fullsony take over and become another slop support studio.
>>735012521>fullsony take over What? Sony already owns them completely
I haven't had a game in a long time where it's all I can think of. It's not even the gameplay per se, it's all of it. The world, presentation, feel… it all clicks so much
All I know is i've spent 5 hours in game yesterday having an absolute blast. Lvl 12 and itching to play more tonight. Was fully engaged and blissfully unaware of tribalism and player base population.Incredible experience that made me realize I've missed the pvp Destiny content so, so much.Not looking to start something the the game has vibes and feels man. Love it!
>>735012367The shitters who invested in sony stocks expecting marathon to make them richDo not worry, suicide is never the answer. You do not have to die for the multi billion dollar company
>>735012746Same
>>735012695The purchase is a unusual because Bungie is allowed to be independent including having the ability to be multiplatform. Sony didn't actually care about Destiny or Bungie they just wanted their consultation expertise.Although you're partially right, sony will own them permanently soon and their independence is pretty much over.
>>735003960It's the best extraction shooter on the marketnext question
>>735001798The game will bounce backBlast-havers will be vindicated and adopt the label as a term of endearment>source: it would be funny
>>735009098Absolutely anything to avoid admitting that the thing you got emotionally invested in for reasons outside of its quality just isn't very good
>>735013205remember when highguard said the roadmap will save the gameremember when highguard said 5v5 will fix everything
>>735001798More like MarACKthon.gottem.
BLAST HAVINCOFFEE GRINDIN
>>735005590Jewsus is a rotting jewish corpse somewhere in Jerusalem
>>735013747Highguard had 11k players 4 days after release
>>735001798if only it got the funding it needed to really shine..
>>735013910Kiss stealin. Wheelin dealin
>>735013910Ya blast havin'from returnin' Vibe shiftin'
>>735014007>seething Jeet fuming at our GOD and Savior Jesus Christ
>>735012367>>735012820Every time i play this game and i see an enemy he uses a skin from the store, no one is using the base skins, people actually invest heavily into the store, especially during american hours where the game gets its peaks. Americans are keeping this game alive by buying all the MTX.
Yesterday I converted to judaism officially and got circumcised but Marathon keeps me busy with it's amazing gunplay, lore, shells and vibes. It's totes the best game in 2026 and Bungie still got it. My trans friends on discord have been telling me that I'm an "egg" whatever that means.. but I just love playing this game with them. Also got the battlepass and we keep on getting that bread, doing contracts, yesterday we also watched the burntpeanut doing the Tau Ceti cup. GOTTA GET THAT GOOP. We love owning scrubs or as the kids these days would say "mogging them" haha
The art style is one of the game's biggest failingsNot necessarily because it's bad. Granted, I'm not a fan myself. I think it's very ugly. I do appreciate the attempt to make something unique, but the end result is just ugly. It's an eyesore. You can make your art style stand out without making it so ugly. And that's without mentioning the whole UI/UX experience. It is fucking atrocious, one of the worst I've ever seen on a big release. This is a part of the game that genuinely just feels half-baked and unfinished. I don't know who the fuck approved this shit, but it is genuinely awful.Okay, anyway, I went on a tangent there.The reason the art style is a problem is that I know for a fact that a LOT of the people who play extraction shooters are just tacticool gun nut larper dudebros. Part of the reason they like the game is the guns, like genuinely. They are just into guns. You don't know how many people I've come across who are just like that. They like that "realistic" tacticool art style with guns they know and recognize.Marathon's art style is such a miss because it completely alienates a huge portion of the already existing extraction shooter playerbase. These dudes enjoy finding an AK or an M4, or a 1911 or whatever. They don't give a fuck about Marathon's sci-fi LEGO guns. Like genuinely, I'm sure every single gun nut will find Marathon's gun revolting.The art style just doesn't fit the genre. It seems like such a mistake, like they should've read the room and realized that the art style just isn't a good fit for the genre. They might've attracted a few Twitter lifeless fags with the art style, but I guarantee you they won't stick around for long
LOL
>>735014461Another big mistake was putting that much money into a relatively niche genre. The only non-niche game in the genre was ARC RAiders, and that was because they casualized the formula to hell, which obviously works as far as mass appeal goes. But if they didn't want to do that, they should've set their expectations and spending accordingly. You can not force a game in such a polarizing genre by just throwing a bunch of money at it. Losing your stuff after death will always alienate the majority of players; you'd be surprised at how many people hate stakes like that in their games.
>>735003990Lmao good thing I pirate everything I can
I'm a chud and I like marathon because the game is fun to play and I like the weird artstyle. I guess I just don't pay enough attention to the meta to know if the game is woke or not because usually when the devs are woke it bleeds into the game and I just don't see it.
>>735014472This is the guy where every game he defends end up flopping?
>>735014461>Not necessarily because it's badNo, it is bad. It is fucking awful, is like if the genre of Sci fi was a person that was having too many drinks and up vomiting, Marathon is that Sci fi vomit
>>735010806>because they're retarded nipsSIE is based in California and this is largely why Playstation and Sony's games department is so utterly shit now.
>>735014461>the whole UI/UX experienceNobody who actually plays video games uses those terms, that shit is exclusively used by reviewers and other devs to shit on competitors.
>>735014574no, that's Morgan ParkPaul Tassi is just a gaming journalist who is kinda known as the Bungie guy because he has played Destiny for ages and supposedly has contacts at BungieBut he's been dooming about the numbers a bit. He also revealed that PC was the main platform, after the latest cope about the game doing better on PS5 started spreading
>>735014472This dude is the Jim Cramer of video games.
>>735001798It's not a concord-level flop, it's found some modest playerbase, but I doubt it's even close to breaking even at this point.As for why, probably because it's a late attempt to latch on to the extraction fad when everyone's already kind of bored of arc raiders and ready to move on to the next fad, plus the visuals are unappealing and near-unreadable, and that's really all it takes for a live service game to not capture a general audience.Bungie also spent the past 13 years making destiny. Specifically they've spent the past 5 or 6 years snuffing out the last dregs of any goodwill they have ever accumulated, including chasing away people who liked destiny.It seems to be made for the people invested enough to know that this studio made halo, and who are at least aware that the marathon IP exists, but those people are probably the least likely people on earth to buy such a game.
If Arc Raiders didn't exist Marathon would be pulling the exact same numbers
>>735014971Even if we took Bungie completely out of the picture and I had no idea what Marathon even was I probably would of bought the game anyway because it looked cool. I'm probably one of the 2 anons ITT who actually like the artstyle.
>>735001798toxic positivity. there was none at bungie who cared to ask "is this actually good" there where none who dared criticize the work of their female and transgender co-workers. there where no "nay smiths"
>>735010975jeets are actually incapable of understanding nuances. they think eating a hamburger with your hands and eating diarrhea curry rice with your hands is the same thing. i honestly believe blacks are smarter than jeets
>>735015045As much as I wish I could applaud bungie for doing an artstyle that isn't fortnite/pixar or UE5 stock asset ultra-realism, the way they did the art just looks awful to me.I find it hard to believe the studio/team that made destiny, which almost always had great environmental design if nothing else, turned around and put out this very awkward-looking game where everything looks like a grey-box with clashing neon colors dumped over it in MS paint.
>>735011531>like in the good ole daysif they're the good ole days that accept modern day values then why rail against them?
>>735014971A "modest playerbase" wont save the fact that Sony wasted almost 4 billions to buy bungie and estimates says Marathon was another 200 millions project, not counting marketing. They needed this game to be a massive success and sell millions of copies and the fact Destiny 2 is also a dead fucking game, so he can't be used to say "Destiny is the cash cow while Marathon is the passion project" makes things worse for Sony and bungie. Btw Marathon playerbase keeps going down every day, in 2 months they are going to be a 15K concurrent playerbase game, when they get to that point layoffs and maybe shutting down the studio can become a reality
>>735001798Because it is literally a fuckass ugly Destiny 2 game modeThat's itThis shit is not a game, is a Destiny extraction shooter with hideous characters and environments
>>735003283
>>735001798how much got Shroud paid to shill this soulless game?
>>735015045seeing so much glowing praise for the artstyle wrapped around ghost in the shell, mirrors edge, cyberpunk makes my head spin, because none of these franchises look like fucking roblox? Do you people not have eyes or something.
