>decide to play RE4>cool atmosphere and shit>finally get to control leon>what the fuck is this>gameplay feels quite like being drunk, delayed, it's like steering a wheel>no real parry, if you want to attack with knife then the range is too short, finishers are cool I guess>pirate the re4make instead>have fun with musket and dynamic action>heard that separate ways is more than just few cutscenesnever playing pre-2009 resident evils again unless it's like RE1 remake
>>735003771Yup you just figured it out, dont listen to /v/ contrarianism, dont play uncslop unless you have a good reason to
>>735003771>>735003857The demake has more input lag but nice try
>>735003857But the game is so fucking beautiful I really adore it for the atmosphere it provides (also QTE). I just wish the controls were better and I'd give it a go. I played through it once and after trying the remake I had to admit that the remake was better for controls alone.
>>735003771It's the opposite of being drunk. Leon's controls are incredibly snappy and tight -- he moves exactly where you tell him to. Wht you're describing is the remake, where everyone has carryover momentum and move like boats.
>>735003771It was a prime mover figuring out how to make the series move on from fixed camera. It works, faggot. Please forget about Max Payne existing before RE4 and already being a perfect TPS. Compare RE4 to Gears of War and it will make more sense to you zoom brain.Also, play Dead Space 2008 if you really can' t hack it. Same shit but you can move more freely.
>>735003883Can you please explain to me faggots like you think floaty boat movement = good controls? This shit infests modern games.
don't reply to zoomer bait
>>735003771R4R is just a better version. I don't see any reason to play the original.
>>735003948Why do they always talk and behave like women? I've seen Karens with more testosterone.What a complete failure of a generation
here's my webm exposing this uncsloprly makes uncs mad
>>735004001Why is Leon killing all these old people?
By the way, the OG game does let you parry projectiles. You just have to do it manually using the knife. Shocking, isn't it?
>>735003981nice bait
>>735003771>Getting filtered by fucking Resident Evil of all things.But then again, what can you expect from nu-fans whos primary interest in the franchise is shipping wars.
>>735003948retard
Reminder that zoomers are brown and they behave like brown people. This is your future, retard.
The original knife is way better than the sloppy parry from the remake, if you're good enough you can literally stun and initiate a close combat move against any normal enemy in the game and prevent most of their attacks from going through.The original is faster, snappier, better to control and laser sights feel significantly more fun to use compared to aiming reticles.
>>735004001That's some good shit
>>735004001I see normal enemy reactions for getting shot in a leg unlike the remake slop where they tank an entire magazine into a leg without flinching.
>735004208I love how you can tell which soilennial doesn't even play games based off the """opinion""" they give
uncs cannot seriously be this easy to ragebaitshouldn't you old crust faggots know better by now?
>>735004001God I love this game
>>735004001stop, you're making me want to run it back yet again
>>735004001what's your point?
>>735004495Too gamey, not realistic enough.
>>735004374You grew up consuming indian ragebait content in social media. Sorry for not being a brown subhuman like you, hope you never get a job and own a house.
>>735004554internet gangster ova 'ere
>>735004546and that's a good thing?
I didn't play RE4 until around the time the remake was announced. It aged quite well, albeit not perfectly. The earlier RE games made much more sense to remake.
>>735004657Sorry, everyone knows the quality of a game is decided by how much literal garbage there is on screen. Yellow paint exists for a reason.
>>735004554watch those cortisol levels unc, you're about to burst a blood vessel
Demake Trannies and nigger thread
>it's ok if ethan does itbut then again, /v/iggers don't go further than prologue in any game they play
>>735004716>he posts pictures of his own mother on 4chan for some reasonsharteens are weird as fuck
>>735003771>>no real parry, if you want to attack with knife then the range is too short, finishers are cool I guessThe knife is a weapon on downed and weakened foes. Not a primary tool. Enemies stagger easily in OG so you're supposed to headshot or kneecap them and go for finishers. You have to treat RE4 more like a positioning-focused gallery-puzzle shooter of sorts, hordes of enemies coming for you so you prioritize targets in a crowd to disable and then tear apart the crowd from the inside out, or stun multiple enemies on short notice to get into a better position. It's very arcade-y once you actually learn the nitty-gritty of it. But it's also really fucking lenient on how much you can get away with to an absurdly precise degree, versus how the remake fakes being a survival horror game for the first couple hours to put the pressure on you, and controls loosely enough to punish you hard for small mistakes with much more aggressive shit.
>make a thread>leave>come back to this
RE community really became one of the most insufferable groups on the internet after RE2make, and these faggots still say "waaaah if you don't like the remake don't play the remake" like the existence of a remake doesn't ruin everything about the series every single time it happens
>>735004716>AI soijak>Trannies out of nowhere>Too scared to write pedophile.Tell me you're an underage shartyfag without telling me you're an underage shartyfag.
>>735004976>picthen why are you talking? tranny
Every passing day , he gets proved right
>>735003771Kill yourself remakebab, block and parry ruined RE.
>>735003771i can't be the only one who thought re4re was worst right?re2re was greast, re3re sucks, and re4re feels like soulless trash.
>>735005042How? They're all the same game.
>>735003857Im trans by the way
>>735004001>having to go into a menu everytime to change weapons Christ that's annoying.
>>735005134we know nigga
>>735003771>gameplay feels quite like being drunk, delayed, it's like steering a wheelLeon in OGRE4 moves the very millisecond you press a control. What are you talking about?He's drunk and slow in the remake.
>>735005004>He doesn't deny it.Truly sad times.
>>735005240He means he hates tank controls. Can't walk in 360 degrees = sluggish.
>>735005004>ban evading You are not wanted here . You don't belong with us the civilized people, no one is laughing with you nigger.
>>735005353Are normalfags seriously unable to play anything that isn't CoD-style controls?
>>735005404that's right, I'm laughing at all of you soilennials
>>735003771Lol i just did the same, those controls are dogshit it's unplayable.
OG RE4 controls like shit, no idea why cucklennials glaze it
>>735003771don't forget>can't strafe>pause every time you want to change weapons>takes 10 years to reload all your weapons>can't move while aiming>camera so fucking close you can't see if there's an item drop an inch behind you
Bait is so boring now.
>>735007414>Gameplay elements intended to keep the game challenging makes things more challengingInterdasting
>>735004792>>it's ok if ethan does itNobody said this. Ever.
og re4 controls better than remake but that's mostly because of the jeet coding in the new one
>>735007447I don't want challenge, i want to play a game.
>>735007447>you don't understand they made it bad on purpose!!!!1kek mario64 came out a decade prior to this slop and controls 100000x better
>>735007541>you don't understand they made it bad on purposeYes? It's literally RE1-2-3 except third person. Maybe you should try playing those games.
>>735007590>it's a dogshit game designed to be bad...and that's a good thing!ok slopeater
>>735007673You're absolutely right. Keep playing the newest RE releaes.
>>735007875thanks, I will :)
>>735003771Filtered.
Holy fuck OP has to be retard.
>>735005021remake isn't that bad, but definitely lacks the soul
>>735004001>enemies react to getting hitLost technology unfortunately
>>735008069git gud
>>735008024I think it's just attention seeking and not sincere.
>>735004001lol this board is morelike joke at this point but again I'm thinking old good new bad only applies to muttslops I guess yeah I said it now kys
why does r4make look like it was meant to be played portrait mode on a phoneit squished more than metro was and leon takes up 75% of the screen
>Every passing day , he gets proved right>Oh I also trans btw
>>735005021>Every passing day , he gets proved right
The reason why /v/irmins mad at re4r is mainly it looks like blurry typical modern jewwood zombieslops nothingless, they didn't even touch it and honestly my heart leans on their side, it's still good game tho
>>735008408>More people are playing CoD than Dwarf Fortress>Obviously Dwarf Fortress is the inferior game
>>735003771As someone that played both, i much prefer Remake.I actually have more hours on OG with PS2 hours but i cant track that.
>>735008485>troon fortressLmao yes
>>735008347WATCH OUT THERE'S A CAR COMING THROUGH THE TUNNEL
>>735008536/thread
i wont play resident evil games until every game is remade
>>735008575Even 7, 8, and 9?
>>735008347wood.
I miss when "bait" and "ragebait" was just called trolling.
>>735008564it's ok saar that just train
>>735003771
>>735008736Trolling is a fascist dogwhistle. We must be better.
>>735008052>turning a QTE Cutscene into a genuine gameplay segment and bossfightI'd call that soul, i don't think any other games have done that before.
I always considered RE4 a generic third person shooter with gimped movement. The console tards loved it because they had nothing like it, but if you were playing on PC it was nothing special. The remake is way better in comparison.
>>735003771>feral dog's anus infested with worms dinning on fine shit poop tier bait thread ( 53818639 replies and counting )
>>735003771>gameplay feels quite like being drunk, delayedOG RE4 is the last possible game you could say this about
>>735008736There is a difference between "trolling" and "pretending (barely) to be retarded".
>>735008803>We must be better.GOOOOOOOODS
>>735008408The fact that there are subhumans here that genuinely consider player count to be an argument is straight up unreal.
>>735009028>The console tards loved it because they had nothing like it, but if you were playing on PC it was nothing special.Are there any 3rd person shooters developed before RE4 that feature the now industry-standard behind-the-shoulder camera that snaps into place when aiming? Genuinely curious, I'm pretty sure RE4 pioneered this thing that's gone on to define entire genres.
>>735009816Conker's Bad Fur Day has the same angle and even a red dot, but it's only used in the horror chapter.
>It's another RE4 thread where OG players complain about sucking at the remake and vice versa>>735009616That's just typical bait on /v/
>>735009616It's because brainrotted zoomers are so used to playing MMO/competitive online microtransaction slop where playercount means everything, that they take this mindset and and apply it to all other games even when it doesn't make any sense.
>>735008513Go beat the og on prof already
>>735009816>MDK>Heavy Metal FAKK 2>Max Payne>Oni>BloodrayneIn case you weren't joking.
>>735009616>30k people are just trolling bro they don't actually prefer playing the remake they are all paid shillsy'all are clinically insane
>>735003771RE4 still controls perfectly today, I'm sorry you are retarded and can't cope with even a 0.001% deviation from the exact control scheme you have been tube fed from birth.
>>735010136Nah, MDK and Max Payne had a 3rd person camera, but it wasn't over the shoulder with a snap-zoom function. Haven't played the others but I assume they're in the same boat.I'm referring to camera functionality as commonly seen in games post-RE4 such as Dead Space, Uncharted, Gears of War, Vanquish, etc
>>735010290>moving goal posts
>>735004001>wide open area that gives the player a multitude of ways to corral and deal with enemies>the open spaces leave you more vulnerable to projectiles being thrown so you typically go indoors, the most attractive building has its own weapon and cutscene sequence in it>with experience you realise you can exploit their limited intelligence because they are spanish>the player is given full freedom in how they deal with the situation, plenty of space to learn and improve and play as you wantGenuinely one of the best areas at the start of any game, they really knocked it out of the park
>>735005021Ecelebworship is the most shartything to do and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>>735003771Its an ancient control scheme called tankA lot of the game used to have this and my god it was pain Good thing we human always Innovate that's why we made re4remake Go and play the remake if you want the definitive experience Play og4 if you're a old loser and want to experience some children nostalgia
>>735010404I'm not moving the goalposts, I reiterated what I previously said: >Are there any 3rd person shooters developed before RE4 that feature the now industry-standard behind-the-shoulder camera that snaps into place when aiming? This is not MDK or Max Payne or Tomb Raider. I wasn't asking about literally any shooter with a 3rd person camera, nor was I stating RE4 was the first 3rd person shooter. >>735009954This is what I'm talking about.
>>735010267What the fuck are you talking about? We're talking about how you faggots claim that numbers alone makes a game good. I'm not questioning that more people play the remake, I'm questioning why people like you seem to believe that the remake is objetively better simply because it has a higher player count.
Why do trannies hate remake so much?
>>735010509NOOOOOOOOOO TOTAL BISCUIT IS HECKIN BASED AND REDPILLED YOU TAKE THAT BACK*shit & farts & die of tumor*
>>735010537what do you propose to be a good indicator of a good game besides the amount of people that want to play it?your opinion? your nostalgia?
>>735010608it's corridor, it's just plain, glossy, shiny, has nothing, and contains the essence of minimalism which is atrocious af
>>735010693I don't know, maybe the fucking quality of the game? Maybe the fucking gameplay? The sort of stuff that actually fucking matters in a game. And in those regards the remake falls short compared to the original. It's insane how you people claim player numbers as a sign of greatness, all while ignoring that by that same logic shit like FIFA and NBA should be considered the best games ever. Hell, Candy Crush and Pokemon Go blow Resident Evil right out of the water with those insane numbers.
Remake4's tone is just all wrong. Leon is a depressed faggot instead of an action movie hero. All of Salazar's best stuff got cut. And nu-Saddler just completely fucking sucks; they ruined his characterization completely. He's supposed to be cynical and machiavellian, not a true cult believer lunatic.
>>735011064>he thinks his opinion actually dictates what the better game islmaoalso remake has better gameplay btw
>this game sucks there's no parryslop
OGsissies genuinely believe pausing the game every time you switch weapons make it better btw. These are the deranged autists who wonder why more people want to play the remake.>>735011323>remake gameplay is so good that OGsissies try to copy ithttps://youtu.be/_amHx4EDPkE
>>735004001New ada Wong voice and joyless Leon are reasons enough to stick with the old one
>>735011163Funny how you stopped talking about player numbers the moment thay were no longer in your favor. Be honest with me, is Pokemon Go a better game than Resident Evil 4 Remake?
>>735010047Eh I already did it plenty on PS2, I only did a playthrough on PC with the HD mod. And I don't really care enough for achievement to play it for that reason.
>>735012118Sometimes things are popular for a reason. Pokemon Go was popular because it was free, accessible and available for your smartphone. Remake4 is popular because it's a phenomenal game.
>>735012118funny how you stopped talking about gameplay when it was pointed out that remake has superior gameplay
>>735004001haven't you posted this for years now?
>>735004001Unparalleled player freedom... pvre joykino
I seriously hope nobody plays RE4 at 60fps..
>>735004001>every enemy reacts exactly the same
>>735004001I think the remake nailed the combat but this is also fun because it just has gamey and arcadey feel to it. It's satisfying grouping ganados up and blowing them away with the insane crowd control of the shotgun, and killing 10+ ganados with a grenade. Bing efficient with your resources is fun.
>>735003771>>735003857Rangeban shit skin subhuman nations.
>gen zegroes baiting engagement and reaction by trying to create spectacle around something ordinarynigger circus clowns
>>735005139It is one of the hardest things to go back to but ammo is pretty abundant so you don't necessarily have to switch weapons that frequently to maximize efficiency.
>>735008069>>735004208It's a good change, every shot from your weakest guns being able to stun enemies would triviale most encounters.
>>735014176No, it's a dogshit change that turned enemies into sponges and completely missed the point of horde like RE4 encounters where crowd control was by far the most interesting mechanic in the game.
>>735014457Crowd control is far more interesting in the remake because you can't just pistol stun into kick.
>>735014537Crowd control in the remake doesn't exist beyond the explosives, shotgun and crossbow, and only because those still provoke enemy reactions unlike gunshots. They literally removed options from player which is a dogshit way to approach remakes.
>>735014621Bullshit, literally just use a higher damage weapon on the higher difficulties or let your reticule close in. Did you load into Hardcore and just get really mad that it now takes THREE bullets to stagger out of the gate?
>>735014705That shit is literally RNG. It's RNG both for stun and especially for enemy reactions because they have hyperarmor states that completely legate their reactions during certain attacks. Stop trying to dickride a shit demake.
>>735014757It's RNG for critical (you know, the thing that you get when you fire at max reticule close), but there's also damage thresholds.
>>735008408nigger it was was released on steam years after the game came out, it's on a dozen platforms.
>>735014823>but there's also damage thresholds.In other words, crowd control in the remake doesn't exist beyond the explosives, shotgun and crossbow
>>735014870>if it doesn't happen in one bullet, it doesn't existHow about you use the Red 9. Pistols fire pretty fast, you know. Meanwhile, you prefer a game where the TMP means you never have to deal with a Ganado for the entire game.
>>735004001I’ll give you weapon switching in the case is kinda annoying even if you get used to it. Otherwise this is kino. Fucking HATED how enemies just refused to stagger sometimes in the Remake and they were even worse on professional.
>>735014953I don't understand why people have such a bad reaction to letting enemies be actually threatening. REmake has failings but making it so that 1 bullet != 1 stagger is not one of them.
>>735014937>if it doesn't happen in one bullet, it doesn't existYes. That was the entire basis of horde based RE4 combat.
>>735015031The "Basis" was picking up the TMB and brainlessly invalidating the entire game. HAving to actually expend resources in a meaningful amount to CC a group isn't a failure.
>>735015019Because I liked that part of 4. I understand why they changed it but I don’t enjoy it as much.
>>735004001I don't understand. Are you posting this like it's showcasing something bad, or?...
>>735014953Demake feels like a terrible slog because of enemy's nonexistent reactions. Until you realize that for some reason crossbow's body shots always provoke enough flinch to literally stagger crowds, at which point you realize how badly balanced 4r is.
>>735015019shitters want easy mode and just mash shoot in the corner instead of being forced to move around the map
>>735015073The "Basis" was picking up the TMB and brainlessly invalidating the entire game.Or i could do a pistol only or a knife only run it will be not only viable but also mechanically fun unlike anything in the dogshit remake.The original has exploitable mechanics but so does the remake as well. The difference is, the original is fun, remake is like controlling a boat that shoots from a peashooter instead of actual guns.
>>735015104>how badly balanced 4r isYou are comparing it to original 4, you know. Where the TMP exists. Where the Street Sweeper exists.
>>735015113This makes absolutely no sense when 4r's Leon is the one who benefits the most from standing in one place because of his terrible mobility and the parry mechanic.
>>735015176I literally did those runs in the remake. It wasn't bad.>and it'll be funIt'll be EASY. You want the game to be EASY. If you want the game to be EASY, then stop trying to play on PROFESSIONAL.
>>735003771>>735003857Get gud
>>735015180Motherfucker, remake's crossbow is literally an infinite TMP once you realize it's the only weapon that can perma stagger normal foes and doesn't expend any ammo. The game is balanced like shit.
>>735015217your post makes no sense because you can't move while shooting the gun in the original you stupid jeet
>>735015221>It'll be EASYThe original RE4 is expertly well-balanced, it's neither hard nor easy, it's just right, that's one of the main reasons it became a blueprint for TPS for nearly 20 years. Remake is dogshit in comparison.
>>735003771Why is there always an RE4 thread in /v/? Every single day it's either shitting on the original or the remake. Is there a resident schizo that I don't know about?
>>735015263Okay? It's also slower, does less damage, and generally shittier.>the game is balanced like shitI could never run out of TMP ammo on any difficulty unless I started unloading it into a wall. Because of one bullet>one stagger, the TMP's magazine was worth an entire horde. The original isn't balanced at all.
>>735003771RE4 unironically mastered tank controls; newfags are just unable to see the good in RE4 because they've been cuddled by parry-dodge slop.
>>735015335>shitting on the originalTranny shill>shittin on the remakeBased autist
>>735015307This literally doesn't matter because in the original Leon is fast and has very snappy movement. In the remake he feels like a sack with shit, and to get the most out of your shots you need focus shots anyway, completely negating the benefit of aiming while moving.
>>735015330It's extremely easy, anon. It became a blueprint because it was the most accessible.
>>735003771The only bad RE remake is 3, all the rest are just improvements
>>735015351>It's also slower, does less damage, and generally shittier.It's not slow at all, that thing can literally control crowds more effectively than TMP and even spin enemies around for a suplex for some reason. The fact community still sleeps on it is hilarious.
>>735015385>stop punishing me for bad positioning, I want to just fire mindlessly at heads and legs and never be in danger>being in danger sucks, I hate video games with difficulty
Why is Resident Evil such a Gackt-core series?https://youtu.be/x9S4_22lqeI?si=5SUbnOXXlNtNydkkhttps://youtu.be/TtHqK3CQb1k?si=1sCfm1X_pbuVyyhNhttps://youtu.be/rwIpsfG-iYY?si=WZ8n0jrb7VajkpY2
The demake is bullshit. It said to pick hardcore difficulty for players of OG RE4 - which I am - and the game is waaay too difficult due to RNG bullshit that naturally you have no control over. Enemy decides they want to grab you? LMAO INVINCIBILITY FRAMES GET FUCKED. Bosses are just ammo checks and the rocket launcher is retardedly expensive. Capacity upgrades don't give a full reload just to further make you at the mercy of the dynamic difficulty ammo drops. They removed the fire grenades so 99% of enemies have no specific weaknesses anymore - just mag dump everything. Checkpoints are much, much further apart making you even more at the mercy of the RNG unless you enjoy replaying sections over and over and over when you inevitably die.To say nothing of making the double garrador room a bullshit ammo check room just because fuck you that is why.
>>735015394You're calling it easy because you played through 20 times and memorized virtually everything it has to offer. For anyone playing fewer (normal people) it's just right, and professional is genuinely challenging.
>>735015446If the "Community" sleeps on it, including the autistics, it's because it isn't actually good. You value stagger above everything else, for some reason.>it CCs more effectively than the TMPThis is delusion.
>>735004554They hated him for he told the truth.
>>735015459>stop punishing me for bad positioningYes, the motto of the remake where you can parry like 90% of melee attacks.
>>735015394It is if you’ve played the game 100 times and know all about it. Drop a zoomer into RE 4 and he’d shit himself before figuring out the horrors of tank controls.
>>735015507Hah, no. I played through twice on console, and I think once more on PC. It was always pretty easy. Hardest thing in the entire game was dealing with the PC port's dogshit aiming bugs. It was easy. It was always easy.>>735015552And eat all your knife durability. In the original, you were never even in a position to get attacked in the first place.
>>735015512>If the "Community" sleeps on it, including the autistics, it's because it isn't actually goodNo, it sleeps on it because only completely brain damaged faggots even remember re4r at this point. Stagger is insanely important in this game because it's how you manage enemy crowds.
>>735015561If all you know going in is "If I shoot them in the head or legs, they stun for 2-3 seconds", then you'll figure out how easy the game is really quickly.
>>735003771>pirateYou didn't beat the game.
>>735015590>And eat all your knife durabilityOh noes, i need to go back and repair it or use one of the billions of knives the game throws at you, the horror.Remake babies are so funny
>>735015335Crowbcuck >>735005021 is desperately trying to revive his dying channel.
>>735015632>it's how you manage enemy crowdsAnd you can get stagger with every single weapon, you retard. You are autistically fixated on one bullet being equal to one stagger state.
I think RE4 has way better controls than the modern re games. Everything in re4 feels very instant and snappy. The modern games its like controlling someone in mud or with input lag.
>>735015687>i need to SPEND MONEY or FIND MORE RESOURCEYeah, correct. As compared to what, in the original? When did you ever run out of ammo to stagger things in the original? When were you ever under threat outside of QTEs?
>>735015708>golden age of the Xbox 360There is no Xbox 360 golden age. All it has are Ninja Gaiden 2 and Lost Odyssey. That fucking cancer box is the cause of a lot of issues with modern gaming. We're still living in the age of Xbox 360 since modern consoles are just "Xbox 360 but stronger and faster."
>>735015637I see you’re being reductive. There’s obviously more to the game than the first village section with hordes of homeless people. There are plenty of enemies in the game that can’t be negged by the tmp or stagger cycled with one bullet. Chainsaw cucks are easy until you get too cocky and get got. Theres no parry to bail you out in the original if you do get caught. These tougher enemies are something the Remake could have leaned into more and still kept the same CC options for regular enemies if they were so concerned. They already added the bull brute guys for instance. But instead they gave you a get out of jail free card if you don’t have the reactions of a snail and made staggers unreliable.
>>735015821the one time crowbfag is right and of course you contrarian niggers cry about it, try actually playing something on the PS2 and remind yourself how badly they play nowadays
>>735004001>posts good gameplayHuh? I'm not mad... what's... happening... to me?
>>735015907>chainsawIf you parry the chainsaw, you lose the knife. It's still much harder to deal with chainsaw enemies in the Remake than the original.>t. 5 starred all mercenaries modes in the original with all charactersEven the fucking double blade chainsaw guys were easy.
How are zoomers this incompetent. RE4 controls amazingly tight
>>735016039Uh, yeah. As opposed to dying like I was saying. Oh no, not my glorious village butter knife! That was at 40% durability no less!
>>735016120>press forward>move>press left or right>don't move
>>735016134>as opposed to dyingYou have to literally just stand there as he winds up the easiest to avoid attack in the game. Literally just walk backwards, fag. By "Getting cocky" do you mean "Forgetting how to control the game"?>>735016117Kill yourself, AI cuck. Stop trying to normalize using your slop by pasting over other people's work.
Psst, this is the reason.
>>735004001Now that's how I remember RE4
>>735015947>try actually playing something on the PS2 Don't mind if I do.
>>735016224And yet plenty of people get their heads lopped off by him. Go tune into a blind playthrough on Tube and you’ll be amazed that the average gamer doesn’t play the game with one hand. Or they got cornered because they thought you could sit in a corner and the game was just that easy. Like yeah, I’d never get caught lacking unless I majorly whiffed a shotgun blast close up but I’ve also played the game dozens of times.
>>735016370"Dying once, learning" doesn't make an enemy hard, it makes an enemy punishing. Lets say I make an enemy in a game, lets call it a snail. Now, if the snail gets to you, it causes an audio cue and then instantly kills you after like two seconds. If you move or shoot the snail, it resets and slowly slithers towards you again or dies. You might get got once, not understanding the snail. Hell, you might get got a second time at some point in the future. But the snail isn't going to be a run defining enemy, he's a gotcha.
dude just reload the checkpoint lmao
>>735003948bump
>>735016583I never said he was hard I was explaining that the game can’t just be boiled down into ‘just shoot them in the legs lmao’. There are other aspects at play. Chainsaw is also one example where the Remake actually bails you out more than the original despite you being able to move and shoot.
>>735003918No, it's the same in 5 and 6.I can't move while aiming or while holding a knife? Tank controls?It's how they added more movement and action to the system from RE fucking 1, but they still had to gimp the player, otherwise it would be too easy. RE4, 5, 6 with good controls would be insanely easy. At least 6 added a bunch of movement techniques, the other ones just feel bad to play because your character plays like a cripple outside of QTEs
>>735016898No, with Salvatore it can be boiled down to "Shoot him in the head". I died way more in the remake than I ever did in the original, despite the knife. Then again, knife becomes a lot more hazardous in Professional and most of my playtime was on professional.
I enjoyed my time with the RE4 remake but I have absolutely no desire to replay it. I still replay the original every year.
>>735017104Well, it seems we wanted and appreciated different things in the remake I guess. Personally, while I did enjoy the game I felt it remixed the core gameplay too much for my liking. Particularly on professional. The core of the original was ultimately that Leon was strong in a fixed position and shooting accurately so he could follow up with CC or take advantage of openings to move. In the Remake I didn’t like that the most basic enemies simply ignored well placed bullets and Leon was forced to always move. Part of what made Leon so fun in 4 and is now timeless is that he can intercept enemies and be a total wall if you aim well. The basic gameplay loop of manage losers and damage/avoid tougher guys is bread and butter. I’m n Remake you just always have to be moving and turning around to do some damage before doing it again. Knife COULD have sort of been that games equivalent but they made it a bit too easy and gave it durability so it’s more of a save your ass sort of thing.I will admit that my pro playthrough was colored by going in on a fresh save. I can’t help but feel they want you to use it as a NG+ sort of thing because the starting pistol is absolute ass and the hardest part of the game was just getting far enough in to get upgrades and other guns rolling.
>how to get a bunch of uncs to effortpost in your troll thread
>the shit controls are part of the fun!!! it's actually good that the controls are dogshit!!!! filtered!>le heckin fixed camera angles, omg! so soulful! i cant see jack shit in front of me but dooood da souuul!!!!tired of this unc cope
>>735017868I enjoy talking video games. Rare for this board I know.
>>735017719I find the invulnerability of original 4's leon fun in a "Pure power fantasy" sort of way, but I'm the kind of person that is only having real fun when forced out of an easy comfort zone. I also always try to play highest unlocked difficulties on NG, and they almost always do fall into the "Survive until you unlock the basics" difficulty curve. It's a lot easier to survive with the basics in 4 than 4R.
>Grown men pretending to be children talking shit about a game they like because they know other grown men on an internet forum will pay attention to themSuch is the life of an average 4channer.
>>735003771Resident Evil has always had good ideas and visuals with terrible gameplay. Just like Silent Hill, they're all movie games.
>>735017997>>735017997And that’s totally fair. Again, I found RE 4 to be one of the most fun games I’ve played and part of that is how solvable it is. The enemies are predictable in how they react and it can genuinely be mastered. But I also understand the appeal of a game that’s never that way and that you’re pretty much always having to move and put in more effort. Doom 2016 is like that for me and I love it and replay it often.
>>735015947>try actually playing something on the PS2I play my PS2 frequently. Greatest console of all time.
>>735015019It's not like RE4 was an easy game, aside from the Wii version. And it managed to do that while giving the player full control over what happens on screen.
>>735008938Everything about Krauser in the remake was done perfectly except not having interactions with Ada so he can say "well, if it isn't the bitch in the red dress" and the fact that he never calls you comrade.
>>735010693According to this logic fortnite is one of the best video games ever made
>>735005134The biggest OGfags for RE are always trannies thoughbeit.
>>735015073>The "Basis" was picking up the TMB and brainlessly invalidating the entire game.Irony to saying that when the TMP does actually break the remake due to its DPS.
>>735011067I hate the argument that RE4 remake's tone and story needed to be more realistic and modern, when RE8 was the most bizarre game in the franchise and Victor Gideon has all the charisma that Saddler lacked in the remake, and almost everyone loves Gideon. So having memorable villains is bad now? I can't recall anyone loving Saddler in the remake at all. Salazar was neutered too but nowhere near the same extent. So much for that.
>>735019818I you're saving the TMP and all of its ammo for boss killing, it's doing what it is supposed to do.
>>735003857Filtered zoomer retardMany such cases
>>735019818The TMP is far more balanced in the remake with its inaccurate firing compared to the original, which was super accurate, had ridiculous capacity and amount ammo to the point you can almost use it exclusively, and a single bullet was enough to stun a ganado and kick a whole mob of them down.
>>735004001>aiming and then being able to shot with full damage without having to wait for the reticle to shrinksomething modern resident evil games removed and I fucking hate it
>>735017719You can still defend from a good chokepoint in 4R but unlike OG you need to use every weapon and not just pistols to maintain the advantage.And that's what makes 4R's combat system so fucking awesome imo. The weapon classes are incredibly well balanced (except for crossbow).
>>735021086>but unlike OG you need to use every weapon and not just pistols to maintain the advantage.You press the space bar and win actually
>>735021243Oh no, your knife broke. Because of course it did.
>>735021814>What is perfect parrying
>>735021927A lot more difficult than shooting them in the head or shin
>>735021927A QTE and those all suck**except when running away from a boulder or robot statue, then that is SOVL
>>735022018Nah not really.Cuz while enemies move around and you have to focus on more than one, decide who's the bigger threat, you just wait for a chav to attack you and then press a button to negate that into a melee.
>>735022439>decide who's the bigger threatI own a pistol and a TMP, their shins are mine for the taking.
>>735022626And I have a knife, I don't even need to use ammo.
>>735022740Ammo is even more plentiful than knives, and relying on a tight timing and hoping enemy attacks don't overlap just so to invalidate the chain parry window is so much more difficult than just mindlessly bulleting one of the group and then kicking everyone in the face.
>>735023184>relying on tight timingOnce you learn it, you win
>>735015687You just like RE4 og because it's easy.
>>735023221Yes, if you constantly hit the small window, you do in fact win. Eventually your knife will break but you'll get huge value. Congrats on doing the hardest thing in the entire game consistently! I'll be over here unloading a single bullet into the face or shins of anything that looks at me wrong.
>>735003771Whenever i hear anons here say they hate the remake and say why, i always thought its a genuine skill issue like with what i'm reading with all the posts in the thread.Then i look at this webm>>735004001And just see how easy the OG game is.Are remake haters just no skill fags?
Resident evil 4 og is for causal gamer uncs who can't handle an actual challenge but don't want to admit it out of embarrassment.
RE4make is fun, some of you faggot never played a real video game, and it's clear
>>735023793It was always a skill issue. Same deal i hear with the Silent Hill 2 remake, they always say dodgeslop or soulslop or too much combat. But then you compare it to the original game where its basically non existent. It came from criticism of the original where the combat is actually bad and the new combat system is the result of trying to make it into an actual Survival Horror game, where enemies are a threat, where resources is low, where you die easy (on hard difficulty, James dies in like 2-3 hits)SH2 Remake is more of a survival horror game and somehow that's a bad thingOh i like the Remake? Woe is me i guess for liking doing SURVIVAL horror shit in a SURVIVAL horror game.
>>735019489>done perfectly except not having interactions with Ada so he can say "well, if it isn't the bitch in the red dress"I think its for the best, them interacting never made sense and was so meaningless, dunno why they tried to make it mean something by having Ada kill him fully in Separate Ways. Glad Remake made Leon actual do the killing blow on Krausers.Also i kinda like the sniveling way that he calls you Rookie instead of comrade, basically in OG, he considers you an equal and a previous brother in combat, but in remake he still considers you below him, weak and young, so it was pretty satisfying that he finally calls you by your name after you defeat him, basically meaning you finally earned his respect.
>thread being saged after actual Remake players enter the thread and btfos the Remake haters by calling OG easy.
>>735025495Which Sekiro mod is this
I don't think that many people knew who the fuck krauser was in the original
>>735025676>insulting a game by comparing it to Fromsoft's best game of the past decade
>>735025759because he really was a fucking nobody before. Its only after with the release of the wii game, Darkside Chronicles that we get some backstory on him.At least the Remake actually put him in the intro and shows that he was the one that trained Leon.
>>735025836>Fromsoft's best game of the past decadeBait
>>735025676Are you actually trying to shit on kino?
>>735025925Bait
Do you ever think maybe flooding the catalog in shill threads makes it more obvious what's going on? Everything in moderation, Capcom.
>>735025925t. eldencuck
>>735003771Im a zoomer and prefer og re4 to remakeThere's such a methodical rhythm to the gameplay of og 4 it's still unmatched
>>735026368no, stay making threads to contain retards who just want to slapfight, kthx
>>735026828Fair enough, better than having the REfags spill into threads where adults are talking.
>>735005139THIS is my problem with all these fuck ass old games.
Cool story, corporate cocksleeve. I'm still never buying any RE game that's available on Steam.
>>735003857Im Indian btw
>>735027101That sounds like an awfully corporate cocksleeve thing to say.
>>735027178If you're a bot, maybe! Now ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for brownies.
>>735005139Only good decision they made to include in the game was quick-switching, it just makes sense to have your shit on you when you are out there fighting zombies readily available, its akin to having it holstered on your back or hip. Makes sense not bad game design.
>>735027253Okay, I'll give you a recipe for browniesFirst, take your mouth off of whatever corporate ballsack you're sucking so you can prepare the ingredients.
>>735024350>>735023793>I literally didn't play it yet I will pretend like I know exactly how the entire game plays from a single webm I saw on /v/ which means my opinion is objectively correct!
>>735027178>>735027625That's right, just keep throwing the insult back. Doesn't matter that it doesn't make any sense, doesn't matter that you're making yourself look horrendously retarded, doesn't matter that you're costing your parent company sales.
>>735027852Anon, nobody wants to please you for sales. It looks like you're the specific kind of autistic that is angry when certain platforms get games. That's nuts.
>>735003771Couple of issues with RE4.>Ashley section is inferior to Sherry and Ada in RE2>That section with two wolverines in a small claustrophobic room is aids>Film gram is awful>QTEs are fast as shit but Novistadors kicks don't fucking work while aiming>Aiming needing to reload is dumb>Luis Sera is forgettable af in this game who barely has screen time>B4remakefag I've only played RE1,2,3nem, Requiem and currently on what? Chapter 4?
>>735009816>>735009816Splinter Cell had it
>>735017072Makes no fucking sense. Sounds like you don't even want to play Resident Evil. The movement in those games is what made it tense. Sounds like you have brain rot and the only way you can keep entertained is if you're playing like a spastic retard.
>>735015019Well that's because you're retarded. It's the first area in the game with first enemy type, being able to stagger is important so you can get away when more dangerous enemies appear. It's not a hard concept.
I'm so sick of this either or bullshit with 4 and the remake as if they're not both great games that have their own respective merits.
>>735031516/v/ only deals in absolutes
>>735017072>I can't move while aiming or while holding a knife? Tank controls?Um I like the tank controls and not being able to move while shooting actually
>>735003771it takes ten minutes to get used to
>>735031725Anon it doesn't take 10 minutes. I will admit it took me longer to get used to compared to the trilogy
>>735003771I bet you like Twin Snakes over the OG MGS
>>735031770Anon....
>>735031995>Post RE2 rank rn
I find it hard to believe posts like these are genuine. It took me 5 minutes max to learn the controls.
>>735003771>n-no you dont get it i played it during my childhood therefore its good because thats when my life was good and i wasnt a contrarion looser
>>73503220810 minutes for OG trilogy, 20 minutes for 4 to fully adapt because it felt more akward
>>735032078Show me yours I'll show you mine ;)
>>735032595>I-I-I'll show you mine if you show y-y-yours >Concession acceptedI win anon don't bother without a pic
>>735032697I couldn't give less of a fuck. I can't believe that you could beat RE2 and still struggle for longer than 10 minutes in RE4. Does the change of perspective fuck with your brain or something?
>>735023793>Are remake haters just no skill fags?They're also too poor to buy a copy of the remake.
>>735032697You know the A rank requirements don't seem that bad actually. Beat game under 3 hours, no more than 3 saves and don't use the heal spray. I haven't played 1991 RE2 in years but I'll try right now and if the thread doesn't die in that time I'll post it.
>>735004001OGfags are legit too stupid to realize what is wrong with this webm
>>735033159Las plagas aren't zombies, retard
>>735014176>you shouldn't be rewarded for precession shots, they MUST be bullet spongesI'm not even sure the enemies actually react like that normally since this is clearly newgame+
>>735032862>I couldn't give less of a fuckEnough to respond anon don't talk shit if you're not gonna back up ur shit, there are hunans in the world that spent this much time playing 2make this long, not my playtime since I never played it yet.
>>735004001lmao you have to go into the menu to select grenades kek!
>>735034141humans* keyboard shite aieeeeee
>>735034141Oh from REmake2?! We're talking about tank controls fuck do you want a Remake rank for?
>>735034803I used that as an example dummy of people's inept ability, I just told you this isn't mine and admitted to only played 2 OG not the remake. Did you not read my posts?
>>735003771filtered
>>735004208I see a piss easy encounter, seems like people struggled more with the retarded controls and camera than the game itself.
>>735004001>attacks have actual weight and impact>UI has style and no minimialist slop>there's no weird glossy sheen on everything>Leons face isn't bustedWhat's not to love?
>>735037312>>attacks have actual weight and impactWhen did the original turn into the superior remake?
>>735037312>OG timeline, Leon never met Marvin but kept the strong sense of justice:)>Remake timeline Leon met Marvin but blames himself for not stopping the Racoon city outbreak>:|
>>735038103The depression/ptsd thing was Chris' schtick. Passing it onto Leon was cringe.
>>735025836>Fromsoft's best gamelol lmao
>>735015113Did you even play Re4r? It's the epitome of "mash shoot in the corner". I'd literally just trigger an enemy spawn in a room, then go to a corner and have them all walk at me Like the double turret section on the island? In the Remake you just fucking stand outside the gate as all the enemies funnel into you lmao, then you walk in to snipe the 2 turrets and gg until the next spawn when you hit the lever
