>don't mind me... just quad wielding to page 10
This guy seems like a broGives you free mana and even plays your deck for you so you don't gotta worry about a thing
I've always wondered if sword sage was a reference to thunderbolt fantasy
>>735005679I've always wondered if my dick was a reference to your tight twink boypussy, now drop your discord and let's fuck
Is this the normal thread or the schizo thread?
>>735005253I've found that relic to be pretty good in most cases. Even better if you have also have Anchor so you block for the first turn is even less of a problem.
>Just won a shiv one>The finisher was knife trapholy KINO
>finally had my 32 big bang+ run I love Regent so much
>>735006225Right now its fine since we only go through act 3. An act 4 would make many of the ancient boons dangerous.
Somehow won an A8 Silent run with this shitty ass deck. Pretty much nothing but block and damage. Took ages but it worked.
You WILL comment on this graph that I spent a lot of time and effort to prepare.
>>735007373loltrue
Why does the game seem to purposefully fuck you over with card draw? The amount of times I draw not one single block card of any kind, not even the worst lowest amount of block possible, on turns when the enemy is doing 20+ damage is ridiculous. Or you draw like 2 debuffs cards but no attack cards; even if you play a draw card you don't draw anything good or useful. Then next turn all you draw is attack cards.It genuinely doesn't make me want to play the game when you are forced to (at worst) lose.
>>735007398Exploding elephant? _The_ roadbump in STS2 is by far Mr. Bees
>>735007460The nature of the game is that you can't expect to get lucky all the time, and you don't need to if you build a well-rounded character with good sustain, defenses, offenses and card draw. You can have some bad moments and you can heal it off. There's also probably some things you could have done in the turns leading up to your demise to change what available cards you could have had.
>>735005069Got my first Regent win with the skip your turn but make your first two cards free every turn card.I don't really know what to do with the necrobinder, osty is usually too unreliable, doom takes a turn to work, and souls don't really output enough damage.
>>735007552Mr bees requires a singular scaling card to beat.Or even just something that interacts with statuses OR exhaust.
>>735007373Trvke
>>735007373I usually get rekt by the crab boss.
How is the multiplayer?
Been playing for about 20 hours total. Finally got to the floor 3 boss but couldn't beat him. Downed him once, revive. Downed him a second time, revive. Couldn't seal the deal for #3. He's tough.
>>735007718That's just neutered spear&shoulders, the only possible difficulty is that it comes earlier in the game.
>>735007820End of act 1 and mid of act 4 is a pretty big difference.
Fucking waterfall giant killed me with perfect lethal
>>735007783Pretty fun. Sometimes unstable, but usually salvageable in those cases.
>>735007783too easy
>>735007460over the course of about 50 floors you can somewhat reliably expect to get 1/100 odds most of the time.
>>735007783It's the game but with more people.
>>735007783When someone gets an infinite you no longer get to play. It's always the Ironclad with Hellraiser.
this is going to get hard at some point right? i'm trying to keep the other characters level as i ascend and although i've definitely had losses with the others with defect just every run i win easily
>>735008691my last wini love that they made the 0 cost stuff actually viable
>>735008684Infinites sound kinda gay. Are they common? Does the dev intend to get rid of them?I am just super hesitant to pay $25 for a. Early access game,and I would primarily be playing it multiplayer with a couple bros
>>735008850the devs claimed beforehand that they were going to try and shut down infinites more and then made it super easy to go infinite by accident even if you're not trying. i suspect they'll nerf a lot of enablers over early access
>>735008850No, but they can happen, and I doubt they will get rid of them. They're fun, as long as you're the one doing it. But in Multiplayer you have to just play your first turn then wait for the infinite guy to play his whole deck 8 times until the boss dies.If you are playing with friends you can easily tell them to fuck off with that shit because you want to play too. But it's hard to resist an infinite.
>>735005069That pose is so much less impressive when you realize he's still sitting in that fucking chair while doing it, lmao.
>>735008947*more
>>735008850They're very common. I don't know why some people think they're hard to build. Some classes are liable to get one by complete accident. Allegedly the devs dislike infinites but the game feels so much like it's designed around them and they're so accessible that I'm suspicious that they're here to stay
>>735008850In the current state of the game, infinites are too easy to come by. It's the optimal way to play Ironclad and pretty much the optimal way to play most of the characters. You will often fall into either infinite, pseudo-infinite, or decks that could go infinite but don't need to. I expect these problems to be addressed in later patches.If all you want to do is kick it in multiplayer with some friends then it's well worth the $25, but if you want to play a balanced masterpiece then just play the first one
>>735008947The chair is vital to achieve peak regentKINO, you wouldn't get it
>>735008947>>735005069I want a mod that turns his throne into a gaming chair
I hate this faggot so much
>>735009052>>735009118I accidentally did an infinite in my last necro run with the "X+2" relic, the X spell that summons and adds souls and a "deal damage when you use a soul" power. I didn't even need to cut my deck particularly hard with how much draw I had.
>>735008691I've not lost a run yet with either Defect or Silent. This run came pretty close but I managed to eke it out.
>>735009252One of the issues is that infinites rarely require cards that are bad on their own, they largely involve cards that you would want to pick up on a regular non-infinite build, at which point, it's silly not to play the infinite because you already have access to it. That's also a consequence of the very poor balance right now, there are way too many cards with no effective use scenario and they're not effective because encounter design is bad and strongly favors certain strategies over others. StS2 has a long fucking way to go
>>735008919>>735008921>>735009052>>735009118Yuck, I'll be steering clear of this one until Early Access ends at least. Thanks bros
My build? Pommel Strike
>>735007552Or thorns - it is still the biggest roadbump in STS2 insofar as you need to build against a non telegraphed enemy.
>Like Regent>But Forge is dogshit, minions are barely a concept, and only stars are strongOh well, maybe he'll be cool in a few months. He seems like by far the least complete
>>735008845Defect and Silent are up to A8 and A9 respectively for me and they're the only two to have a perfect record so far.
>>735009569Hell Status? Raised.
>>735009847You fucking wish. I haven't seen Hellraiser in unironically 8 runs
>>735007373i can say that kill the stairs two feels way easier than obliterate the skycraper one, but i also have X hours of experience of how to gauge which card i need, meanwhile some of my friends who didnt play the first game are yet to win a single run...and now the question: why regent feels so... inconsistent? like you can have turns where you only draw start generations and do nothing and then you draw only payload cards and dont have stars to play them.i am yet to lose a single game, but my last run with regent was a horrible slog, super weak to bad draws.what is the meta with regent? pick all block cards and stall until your sword one shots the enemy? or do you go full on stars and hope you draw them in correct order? Regent has one of the most broken op cards in the game, like>draw 5 then pick a skill to play 3 timesbut then i realized i dont have a good skill lol
>>735007460it's not luck, you know what cards you have in your draw pile and what cards you have just seen, act accordingly
>>735007460It doesn't 'seem' to do anything, it's random. If you flood your deck with too many cards without any means of getting to the cards you want then that's your fault. You're not forced into any kind of situation, the issue is that you didn't try and make a plan for your deck.For me right now the game is too easy, I can complete runs in <30 minutes and the ascension levels don't feel like much of a difference to for me. The cards are way overtuned but I guess that's the starting point to refine through balancing.
>I'm a genius>OH NO
>>735009745Need more bratty Regent art.
>>735010436
>>735010436Just killed myself by hitting the toad in act2 with radiate
Can I get a rundown on this card? The cost, low str gain, and unimpressive damage isn't very convincing without even considering the downside.
>>735010535FIGHT MEFIGHT MEFIGHT ME
>>735010535I find it to be too situational. It seems like it's good in the following situations>it's a multi-enemy fight and you can kill the enemy that turn, either by using this as the finishing blow or using it to buff your offense first>it's an enemy, elite, or boss with minions or phase changes (phrog parasite, for example)>an enemy is buffing and you can kill them next turn>calculated risk against enemies that don't multi-attackBut the cost does make it a bit difficult to play at times
hdow is this shit balanced? turn 1 btw
>>735010783also it doesn't show but the boss is literally on 1hp
>>735007373the exploding elephant is actually fucking retarded
>>735007718>fighting the Giant Enemy Crab>play stampede>doing well>attack randomly targets onto the big claw during the rocket launch turn>dieI'm still seething
>>735008850apparently going infinite is the only way to play ironclad right now
>>735005069Necro is by far the most consistent. She basically has barricade from the start since summon doesn't disappear at the start of the next turn. Essentially:Necro > Regent > Silent > Defect > Ironclad
Manged to get a first win in 1 or 2 tires with everyone but Necro. How the fuck do you make this fucker work?
>>735011070Necro > Silent > Ironclad > Defect > Regent
>euthanizes your mediocre run
Its comical how big the disparity in act 1 boss difficulty is
>>735011302I just died to this dude on a good run because my best card got bottom decked twice
I'd add a spike for queen. Everything else is easy once you hit A3.
>>735007373the exploding boss is easy
>>735010930kinda funny crab is the one enemy in the game that fucks over stampede/hellraiser
>>735007373The waterfall boss is by far the easiest wtf are you smoking. The fucking 8 attack shield ink dude is a menace
>>735011198SOVL
>>735011198Oblivion+as many good soul cards as you can
>>735011308Was gonna ask this. There are some boss's that instantly destroy my run whereas some don't do anythingWhats the general verdict? I liked 1 and I am having a lot of fun.
>>735005069is this worth purchasing or is very similar to sts 1?
>>735011562I will but I need the bratty bathwater relic to defeat the Architect.
>>735011864it feels like StS1 but way less miserable to play (read:easier on many levels)
>Quad WieldingCute.
>>735007373I've never died to the elephant and dont get how you would. The bee fucker is the genuine worst.
>>735007373>No slimbo as act1 boss while playing silent
>>735010535in a vacuum this is the most broken card:>double strike>inflamebasically one of the few cards which has both the scaling and payoff at once. you need just this card and some way to stall for time and it will win the run on its own.in practice however it is clunky and you will pick this only before act1 elite fight when you dont even have upgraded bash yet. i suspect they will buff it.>>735010783semi infinite combo giving you 30+ strength is indeed not balanced, just like i like my card games xD
>>735010535This card instantly ends runs in multiplayer (because you kill everyone in your team).
>>735012057im a l33t gamer so i will start with 1 then
>>735011070Anything is consistent when you savescum
>+2 dexterity potion singlehandedly saved my Osty runDon't disrespect potionsThis was the most razor's edge run I've done so far, crazy how many turns this fight I thought I was dead
>>735011070Why do you place Ironclad so low?
>>735012382Anyone who hasn't played 1 should definitely do that rather than go for 2's early access in my opinion.
Vakuu just gave me three apparitions to go with my two echo forms. Thanks for the win Vakuu!
>>735012462Purely empirically, he's my worst character. Maybe I just don't get him and he's really good.
>get 2 copies of this>add the enchantments that makes them cost one less>play one>play the other one and fetch the firstOh cool, infinite damage
>>735012673AHHH HELP ME TIME EATERMAN
Is the carpal tunnel worth it
>>735012170weaken/strength reduction JUSTs himthorns does tooeven if you have a 0 cost deck that spams attacks you often have draw in the deck to get around all the curses
>>735012776Apologize to him
>>735007552>Mr. BeesI have never lost a run vs this beenigger. However, the act 3 Flying red octopus that seems to always be the last elite before the boss and attack you every turn for insane damage...
>>735012618He seems rather easy to get an infinite going, I am rather bad and struggle to really make him work outside of those though.
>>735012394>that bossgoatse.cx
>>735012817Just put the club on 3 and end turn.
>>735012817Worth it for the A10 yes
>>735012394I've always wondered if the Doormaker has a "fail state" if you keep opening the door but not killing him cause it seems like he's close to coming out, but I've never struggled with him to that point.
>>735012938I lost vs him as the last boss on A10 in one of my Defect runs, the fail state is just that the door hits for like 50 when it's summoned for the 5th time. Unfortunately I didn't have any extra orb slots and there's only so much 3 frost orbs can do
So are Barricade builds just shit in this? Seems far rarer, no entrench outside of that one event, no calipers etc
>cycle my deck extra fast with a Calculated Gamble+ I upgraded, which also lets me fish out my Eviscerate for free>whittle boss down to 78 HP with 6 Poison on them>bad hand of Strikes and Defends but I pulled Calculated Gamble+ again>Bouncing Flask from a potion, draw 3 Slimes with a potion, Calculated Gamble+>100% chance of pulling enough card draw to get my 10 cards with the Slimes in my discard pile thanks to Reflex, Dagger Throw and Prepared and some removals>burst the boss down from 80 HP to 20 with 15 poison
>>735012998Barricade is very strong but good fucking luck ever building around it, ive seen it literally once across 20 runs
Am I just building it wrong or are Doom builds bad? I seem to almost always do better with Osty or Soul decks
>>735013187Doing it wrong.
>>735013015NiceThe slime boy is ez mode if you have good burst
>>735012776IT'S MA'AM!
>>735013220How’s it meant to be built then? Do I need a good density of blocks and weakens for their final turn before they die?
>>735013293>ok but if you had to guess, what time do you think your turn will end?
>>735013242He's been giving me some trouble but I'm getting better at preparing for the fight. My favorite so far was filling my deck with Endless Agony+ to abuse my draw. Just in time for A19!
>>735013187You just need the enabler, otherwise it's too slow
Is this card actually secretly incredible OP with some synergy or is it just as mediocre as it sounds?
>>735010535It should hit three times, and apply strength before hitting.
>>735013414it's worse than bad
>>735013296Well yeah, the game literally gives you cards that do that. Negative pulse, death's door, deathbringer. You can also go for hybrid doom builds.
>>735013414I guess you'd want it if you have finisher?
>>735013414Seems like a shitty version of the power that gives you a shiv a turn.
>>735013414It has good synergy with Cloak and Dagger, which has good synergy with Dexterity shacking and other Shiv stuff. That's not very exciting by itself, but Shivs in this capacity can also be decent discard fodder, and you get one a turn that does pretty good damage too, so even if you don't have a Shiv build there's other prospects. It's not that great admittedly.
>>735013414I just had a build with infinite daggers and it was fine. After two turns it’s a 1 for 18 which is good. Still a worse Accuracy though
stars...
>>73501369110/10
just started regent and am struggling pretty hard, finally had a super easy run thanks to heavenly drill with chemical x.how do you make forge runs work? feel like seeking edge is necessary?!>>735011070damn how do you win so consistently?
>>735009923I pulled off a 438 sword on A1 but ever since then it's been stars. I don't know about the meta but as long as you find good gen (start with Glow, Cache, you go stratospheric if you get any star relic or Throne card as a boss reward), you're gonna get there. Always take reflect, always take decisions. Play decisions into reflect and you solve every bad turn in the game right now.
>>735013414It's mediocre but if you happened to pick up only one or two cards that produce a shiv then it's better than Accuracy. But in a full shiv deck, it's meh.
i hate this guy so much. so many of his cards are so dogshit. at least half of these runs end in act 1
ironclad has ass rares
>>735014272me with ironclad
>>735014283Why did you include an image of the best rare in the entire game?
>>735014283Literally all of them are build defining lol
>>735014283>Posts 3 amazing cards>"These are all bad"
>>735013414>can stack shivs for strangle and finisherseems ok
>>735014283Every single one of those cards is amazing.
>>735012394Does he actually come out if you survive long enough?
Even though it's basically 99% finished at this point (PNG placeholder art does not count) I assume this game's going to get regular balance patches before its official full release, but how often can we expect these to happen?From googling it seems like they were weekly during the beta of STS1 but that's like ten years ago
I haven't played any other deck building games and only grabbed this because I loved the first one. Is this actually the best of the genre? I have no frame of reference to compare it to.
>>735014283retard
>>735014763sts1 pretty much invented the genreyes
>>735011595Not when the stag exists
>>735014073Forge seems bad to me too. You need too many turns to set it up, which in higher ascentions means you die
>>735011595>The fucking 8 attack shield ink dude is a menace>Mfw playing 4 player co-op and he has like 90 intangible stacks
>>735005069i thought generals weren't allowed on this board
Thinking of getting this, is there a summoning archetype? You know, like a token build or something from MTG?
>>735014997Necrobinder has a permanent pet that pretty much acts as a meat shield, but you can build around it attacking also. STS1 with the Downfall Mod had a character that was more of a summoner.
>>735013414I can see a use case for the retain with relics that work with 'after X attacks do Y', for instance if you can't pop shuriken this turn but can the next, also great vs intangible and thorn enemies.
Holy shit, do NOT build poison early
>regent>event tile>choose to get a 0 cost card>it's a 3 blue star cost card
There's too many random enemies making me ask myself how the fuck is this not an elite
>>735015441What the fuck were they smoking with Snakebite lmao, 2 mana for 7 poison, when a 1 mana common can do 5 poison? But it has retain!!! I don't give a shit
>>735015441>19 cards deck>earlyWhat the fuck have you done?
>>735015605The funny thing is that the only reason it ended up in my deck was because I took the transform option. Immediately found out what a miserable card it is.
>>735005253I had the relic which gives you free colourless cardsI got the 0 cost card that gives you 50 block when used but kills you if you take ANY damage the entire combatAnd of course the fucking retard played it
>>735015605Retain probably jacked up the cost in their eyes, since it's very useful on most cards. Problem is that poison isn't something you need to wait for the right moment to use with. You just throw it out.
>>735015581>hunter killer>the big slime>the strength / dexterity sapping robots if you get a single bad draw
>>735015748Right on act 1 there's that fucking cloud that locks you to 1 skill a turn, what the fuck is my silent supposed to do
>>735015441Block till the poison kills em
This would've been busted even if it had exhaust on it
>>735015835Don't forget that it (cascade) summons adds from a STS Act 3 Elite that don't even have the decency to attack once before blowing up.
>>735015605Is snakebite in the patchnotes at all? Maybe it was nerfed before release.
>>735015441>miraculously clear the centipede fight in 3 turns with perfectly played hands and a lucky draw, despite having 20 HP>enter regular encounter>big frog with thorns>turn 2>23 damage>apply weak, thorns hurt me>die anywayNice "regular" encounter
didn't realize how bad I was at this game until I started savescummingthe amount of runs I've won just because I rerouted my play order is insane, even with bad decks
>>735016002How much of that is foresight of your draw order though?
>>735016050Lots
I hope they patch the savescum
>>735015850Poison is currently fundamentally flawed for two interrelated reasons1.) The energy economy of actually applying poison is awful2.) A mechanic that requires that you stall just makes you more vulnerable to getting a bad hand and eating 50% of your HP from a single attack, also all enemies incrementally buff / debuff so stalling is even worsePoison seems like something that's a bonus when your build is already broken for unrelated reasons, sort of like forge.
I wish there was anti save scumming measures in place. Mewgenics did a really good job of it without it being bullshit. Like maybe have a warning come up, and it could start cursing your deck or something afterwards. Maybe let the run continue but you can’t unlock the next ascension or something
>>735016193>Maybe let the run continue but you can’t unlock the next ascension or somethingThis, but you get one save scum, and you can save and quit on specific screens without incurring it
>>735015859this shit can go out of control in so many ways>>735016050a couple of runs, but it's mainly because I keep forgetting my relics, potions and enemies abilities
>>735013691
I need the name or an image of the enemy from act 1 that shrinks your character, please. I got inspired to draw something lewd related to it last time I played but I forgot to screenshot the enemy.
>>735007373Fixed it for ya
>>735016002this is why restarting battles is goodthere will be a point where you forget that savescumming even exists because you're actively learning from your mistakes
>>735016193Eh, anti savescum features are like adding anti piracy measures or DRM.The only ones it will really effect are players who don't save scum, savescummers will just find a way to mod it out, and if there's any bugs related to it, the non-save scummer gets fucked for no reason.
>>735016348took me literally 10 seconds to find on google
>>735016348The Shrinker Beetle? Go ahead, I love size difference.
>>735016431
>>735016002Thats unironically part of what makes savescumming fun in this game.Just the challenge of rethinking your strat to turn a loss into a win is very satisfying.
>>735016497Thank you so much anon
>>735016520slay the spire 2 enemies -> first link -> scroll down a bit
>>735016551... What are you going to draw?
>>735016415I lot of people follow the idea that “if it’s in the game, I should unitise it”Sure you’ll have people mod it out, but most won’t. I think it just takes away from the enjoyment a lot, and doesn’t teach players how to improve
>>735016591someone already spoonfeed me nigga kek get rekt
Is ethereal necro a thing or nah? Got an early Banshee's cry.
>>735010909>PFSHHH>haha wouldn't it be funny if i was a DPS race AND a block check AND i healed AND i hit like a fucking tank?>now check out how hard i can steam>PFFFSHHHHH
>>735016779Yeah.
>>735016697On the contrary, it's like studying your chess matches. You reach a point where death is inevitable, then savescum, then review your error and correct.
>>735016697>I lot of people follow the idea that “if it’s in the game, I should unitise it”lol that's me. I still savescum in mewgenics even if it starts playing the game for you. It's like another layer of challenge where you try to brute force by changing equipment around and see if it works.
BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES
>>735016945DOES IT ALMOST FEEL LIKE NOTHING CHANGED AT ALL
>>735012776The villain we need, but don't deserve...
>>735013293I need a sauce for this, boss
>>735015605I'm not a snakebite defender but I think it gets a worse rap than it deserves. It needs to be evaluated within the context of the silent kit. Having retain is important because it means it isn't getting shuffled meaning you're drawing good cards more often. Pounce lets you play it for free, hand trick lets you imbue it with sly, and its an extra hit for fletchettes, and because it has retain it will almost always be ready to synergize with those cards when you want it to. Again I'm not saying it's S tier or its run defining but there's value to it if you have the means of using it well. Just looking at it as 2 mana for 7 poison is a little reductive
>>735005069The Regent is a retard. Why would you leave whatever planet you're from to come to a planet with the spire on it? Now you're stuck in a cycle of resurrection forever!
Glass Orbs fucking suck, bring my boy back he did nothing wrong.
>>735013363This card is terrible. >>735013187Doom as a status condition is good. Think of it as maximum HP reduction which is usually overstated. Doom as a deck build is terrible. The good doom cards don't synergize well with the rest of them.
I got over 200 damage with Squeeze + corruption enchantment + 2 upgraded Lethalitys + a bunch of Otsy cards + vulnerability. T'was a fun time.
>>735017274I think it's pretty good to not have all the aoe options for orb builds tied up in one card.
>>735017274It's either this or a 0 cost claw build if you don't want to get jumped in Act 2 by the rapist centipedes. You can also just spam Voltaic and win since that shit's abhorrently broken
>>735011257This is the exact inverse. Regent > Defect > Ironclad > Silent > NecroIn terms of fun and power
>>735017274WAIT THIS CARD IS GONE?i know glass sorta does the same thing but man that was a fun one
>>735017459End of days is a run saver that rapes most enemy encounters immediatly
>>735017843End of Days is good enough to be your only doom card in the deck, seriously.
Finally got a win with the skelly, and it was with triple attack damage akabeko replay eradicate
>>735017459> This card is terrible> literally the best bosskiller doom card
post you are stats
I've beaten A10 with Silent. I'm pushing A6 with Regent and I'm currently grinding Necro and Defect. Don't care much about Clad.Here's some thoughts.The statue and Byrdonis from act one need to be toned the fuck down. All elites feel well designed with a unique gimmick except for these two and maybe Terror Eel. They're boring damage races that you can't really circumvent. Phrog, Gardeners and Colony have fine mechanics and breathing room. Terror Eel alternates between his big hits and weak multi hits which you can easily block, but Statue and Byrdonis don't let up.The statue's first attack should deal less damage. Byrdonis should start with lower damage or or scale much slower. The thing is, if you don't find weak or strong block early, the statue will fuck you up and Byrd will always chip away a good chunk of health. It's bullshit. Silent is absolutely broken. Sly allows you to do so much it's insane. She will get hit with the nerf hammer soon.Regent is the worst character, and also my favorite. The only viable build is stars, because forge is complete ass and he doesn't have the energy manipulation needed for card creation. Really sucks that the minions are nothing more than deck thinning either. His deck manipulation is heavily underused.The full art boss reward cards are amazing, but some are so bad they don't even work as a "Tiny house bail out" if you don't like the other options, and some will just never get played because they're boss rewards. Clad's Break is retarded because Bash is bad. Corruption is dead because it's paired against two other ancient's boons. Though I miss sitting behind 10 forst orbs, I'm fine with Biased cog getting left behind, etc. Really think they should add an event that lets you fight some strong enemies like the double orb walker or Nob+Slaver from StS1 so you can get these as well, or make them a 1 in one 100 card drop.Can't wait for the balance changes.
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>>735017459You're retarded. Sorry to break it to you.
>>735018185>useless by itself>doesn't do real damage, only does imaginary doom damage that doesn't matter unless it's higher than the enemy HP>only does damage, doesn't add block, doesn't draw cards, doesn't scale off strength modifiersNo, fuck you. I'm right. You're wrong.
>>735018308By the way this is A2 so please be careful
>>735017459Doom would be much better if it activated before the enemy's turn.
>I've beaten A10 with Silent. I'm pushing A6 with Regent and I'm currently grinding Necro and Defect. Don't care much about Clad.>Here's some thoughts.>The statue and Byrdonis from act one need to be toned the fuck down. All elites feel well designed with a unique gimmick except for these two and maybe Terror Eel. They're boring damage races that you can't really circumvent. Phrog, Gardeners and Colony have fine mechanics and breathing room. Terror Eel alternates between his big hits and weak multi hits which you can easily block, but Statue and Byrdonis don't let up.>The statue's first attack should deal less damage. Byrdonis should start with lower damage or or scale much slower. The thing is, if you don't find weak or strong block early, the statue will fuck you up and Byrd will always chip away a good chunk of health. It's bullshit.>Silent is absolutely broken. Sly allows you to do so much it's insane. She will get hit with the nerf hammer soon.>Regent is the worst character, and also my favorite. The only viable build is stars, because forge is complete ass and he doesn't have the energy manipulation needed for card creation. Really sucks that the minions are nothing more than deck thinning either. His deck manipulation is heavily underused.>The full art boss reward cards are amazing, but some are so bad they don't even work as a "Tiny house bail out" if you don't like the other options, and some will just never get played because they're boss rewards. Clad's Break is retarded because Bash is bad. Corruption is dead because it's paired against two other ancient's boons. Though I miss sitting behind 10 forst orbs, I'm fine with Biased cog getting left behind, etc. Really think they should add an event that lets you fight some strong enemies like the double orb walker or Nob+Slaver from StS1 so you can get these as well, or make them a 1 in one 100 card drop.>Can't wait for the balance changes.
>>7350183083/4, we need one more!
>>735018359nta, but you're fucking retarded and doubling down. What you've said is also true for inner fire. Many cards do no damage by themselves. Those generally are the best cards. Kill yourself today.
>>735018428Why does this image exist?How much seething warranted this thing?
>>735017172I think people would complain less if 4th energy was more consistentThe jump from 1 to 2 energy is so miserable right now, if a high cost card doesn't do EVERYTHING for you it feels so dogshit
>>735018418Then it would be a better poison. They give it some identity of being a doom counter death rather than a straight up kill.
>>7350183081 more. get in
i hate the doom mechanic it sucks
i'm ngl bros, silent is cringe, only character that's actually not fun to play
>>735018428he should be holding transfigure beta art
>>735005069Seen some gameplay, why is Act 3 babby?Game seems REALLY easy...
>>735018308Anybody? We only need 1 more
>>735005253Vakuu is not as bad as people make him out to be.Playing your turn isn't as bad if you have innate, or in general. Jeweled mask is great. The extra draw 2 but no draw during your turn isn't bad if you have bad draw to begin with, etc.
>>735018651The difficulty is inverse. Act 1 is hardest and it gets easier as you go.
>>735018469>Many cards do no damage by themselves. Those generally are the best cards.Name 3 damage cards (because Doom is a damage mechanic) that are useless by themselves but considered good.
>>735018685do we just run with 3 for now?
>>735018640>Transfigure betaheh
>>735018853Let's go
>>735017172Yeah, with poison it's really important to stack as much of it as possible, but you can't always play the poison card right then. Retain lets you play it at a more opportune time before you cycle your deck, where you can then potentially top deck more poison.
>>735018359>doesn't scale off strength modifiersThis is a pro on Necro
>>735018808Knife TrapRadiateFlak Cannon
>>735019051Name 2 more.
>>735018359>useless by itselfwait a minute thats so wrong its painful to your fucking bloodline. its by design good by "itself" as its value comes from being recast 8 times. slots into souls/graveblast really well which are already your top priority picks.
>>735018808Inner FireAccuracyNightmareStampedeThe colorless power mania or something that plays the top card of your draw pile every turn.Most of the +energy cards (energy is used for damage through other cards, following your retarded logic)Multiple Doom cardsHundred+ of other powers and skillsEtc. etc.It's not even useless by itself, because it applies doom by itself.Kill yourself today.
Nerf infinitesBuff act 2 elitesBuff act 3 bosses
Bing Bong, give me 6 apparitions and 5 tools of the trade and a whole lot more of discards for my 5 sly cards in my deck please
>>735019051Radiate is good on its own. Also scales with strength and vulnerable by the way, unlike No Escape.
HOST?
>>735005069this release got me into STS1, how much of that should I play before buying 2? I beat ascension 0 with the first two characters and from what I understand that is only the beginning
>>735019305 Infinites are a symptom, not the problem. If your deck can go infinite you already highrolled pieces and dodged all the tempo checks.Act 2 elites absolutely need teeth though. Right now they’re just slightly angrier hallway fights.Buffing Act 3 bosses is whatever, but if you crank them without making the path to them harder it just turns into “save all your potions and pray.” Make the climb scarier, not the finish line.
>>735019414Until you get bored of it ofcourse. What kind of question is that?
>>735019369Radiate does nothing without cards that generate stars. It's useless on it's own but very good if you have a lot of star cards (much like No Escape).
>>735019369>radiate is good on its ownso you cast it to deal zero damage?
>buy wing charm on a whim act 1>it plasters itself onto the most useful card choice more than half the timeWow I did not expect such high returns
>>735019317love this little gooba
>>735019517Wing charm is S tier. It's ridiculously easy to have half of your deck drawing cards.
>>735019620Weird that STS launched with a collab/crossover. I know it's appeared in other things like Dead Cells and some smash clones, but there wasn't anything in the first game.
>>735015605>>735017172well 7 poison is 7+6 in 2 turns which is 13 damage, while 5 poison is 5+4 which is 9. It seems like an ok cost with the retain but bouncing flask usually mogs it despite it jumping onto random targets and synergizes with the poison skull
Anyone else put Pael’s growth on crescent spear? It’s a free winI hit door maker for 1040 damage with 1 card
>>735019727the first one's got some references. the inserter relic comes from Factorio for example
>>735016191your blur? Blur is S tier with poison builds
>>735019786How do you generate stars? Rooms with > 3 enemies will probably fuck you
>>735019434Act 2 elites are fine aside from the prism. Decimillipede and entomancer both act as decent checks but the prism doesn't really do anything other than be a shitty book of stabbing that doesn't even scale as hard or give you status and also gives free energy for some reason
>>735019378Fine, I'll do it myself, you bastards.JOIN steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242860475706/76561198045374077WHATEVER ASCENSION I DON'T CARE
>>735020239i just wanna turn my brain off senpais
>>735019912I put a royal seal on that star treasure chest card but yeah without that any encounter with 4 or more enemies would fuck you over. 3 or less dudes get one shotted Before you have hundreds of copies of crescent spear you’re still likely to draw into something useful though
>>735020239oh it says the game no longer exists
>casual 40 damage at the start of act 2
>>735019941I know the bee man is a meme right now but he is not difficult. He doesn't hit hard at all. It takes him until round 4 to hit for 32.As long as your deck isn't full of strikes and shivs he should be one of the easiest elites. I've never died to him.
>>735005069Save scumming is a slippery slope... At first I only did it whenever I forgot about a relic I just grabbed, now I'm doing it for pretty much every single misplay...
>>735020239>>735020324Try this:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242861067845/76561198045374077
>>735020459oh you're not in the betait's over for me
>>7350204593/4, one more BIG MAN needs to join
Beat A10 Defect, time to work on Necro
>>735019434>If your deck can go infinite you already highrolled pieces and dodged all the tempo checks.There are too many ways to go infinite.Even if you buffed act 1 elites it wouldn't matter because the infinite forcers would just dodge elites and remove cards.Cards that enable infinites need nerfs across the board. Expect a fight, production, etc. These cards probably need to exhaust or be made weaker somehow.
>finally get offered Clone>its on this shit runAlright what do I clone. Was thinking of a shit ton of Zaps or Hotfix
>>735020459>>735020517Eh fuck it. We gaan.
>>735020427gotta burst down the one with the orange blob since he gets +15 str and does crazy damage starting turn 3
>>735020621choose a different option
>>735020427You have 3 turns to kill the purple beetle, until then he hits for 3
>>735020621Unironically boot sequence
I think I'm doing something wrong on the clad
Early Access just feel like a retread on the original StS.I'm expecting big things to come beyond mere balance changes
>>735005069Man, I respect this game for hard carrying via gameplay, but I can't get over how shit the artstyle and visual design is, in part because of it. Everyone delivering, even conceptually the characters are cool, but what you see on screen looks like some random kid's latest deviantart uploads and with zero consistency even at that. It all looks drawn by someone who was never criticized and told to iterate, so the first random character scribble is also always the final result.
ASCENSION 4 ONLYsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242788108179/765611980012912791/4HERE IS THE DISCORD LINK FOR A SERVER WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT FINDING PEOPLE FOR ASCENDINGAn8RFWkTA2DONT BAN ME MODS ITS A GOOD IDEA. WHERE ELSE ARE WE GONA FIND ASCENDING TALK AFTER GAME DIES
>>735021142you're either trolling or have no taste
>>735021090I'd like to see a more seamless, non friends MP mode. Like a race to see who can finish/not die a run concurrently with a bunch of people on the same seed. That or a "raid" type boss like Ur-Dragon from Dragons Dogma
>>735020710>>735020940I took Paels Flesh, but later got Bing Bong and now wish I took the clone on literally anything. Hell with the foresight, I could have bought 1 Claw in act 1 but didn't.
I have never seen the clone option. I feel left out.
>>735021192Sounds more like all-or-nothing cope to me. Just because the game is good doesn't mean you have to delude yourself every aspect of it is equally good. Or case of the character art and design - not.
>>735014073managed to win the game right after that too. was just waiting to die cause i hated the deck but it kinda just worked out with potions carrying the final boss. really feels like once you get out of act 1 the game is almost won.>>735014929yea idk its just too slow and you need too many cards to make it work
>throw cascade>win
>pick toasty mittens>exhaust every single good I have >die to elitelmao
rehost?
>>735018308Game crashed for me.
HEY IRONCHAD YOU DC'D>>735021960GET BACK IN HERE WE'RE STILL IN ITWE'RE THIS CLOSEMecha Knight is such cancer I hate him
>>735021960can you reconnect?
>>735021852why are you playing defect with doom and poison
>>735021994It won't let me.
>>735022065Exit and reenter Steam?
>>735022084Still getting the same error.
>>735007398How are you so wrong? Have you even played the game?The exploding elephant is straight up pretty much impossible without having God's finger up your asshole kind of luck with the cardsThen in the hive you have regular mobs with 200 hp that give you -1 str and dex for every card every turnIn STS1 you had uhm... some mobs that used armor sometimes
this guy is busted
>>735022184I did save and quit. Do I click Host From Save?
>>735022238try it. i have no clue
>>735022238>>735022275It blackscreened me when I did this
>>735022297Trying again but waiting for you guys to get in firststeam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242864883778/76561198043831607
>>735022297fucking rip then. ;-;
>>735022380WE'RE BACKLET'S END THIS
I have 10% winrate on Ironclad
>>735018428The statue? Really?The statue you literally just throw every attack at it
Is the way to play the game just getting Silent cards with every character like in STS1?
>>735020427>block red beetle>kill purple beetle>ignore white beetle>ignore green beetle harderit's not bad at all
>>735020971pyre is a must have in any clad deck , bloodletting and offering also.
The test subject's theme is so fucking good
YO ADD ME ON STEAM SO I CAN ASCEND WITH A GROUPIM A4https://steamcommunity.com/id/rbm3rd/>>735021168STILL WAITING ON PEOPLE A4
A0 GET IN NEGROSsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242865545739/76561199178322140
>>735022930Finally somebody else who agrees
>>735018493Someone made an -ACK joke I found funny so I made this image to immortalize it
>>735017513Those centipedes have destroyed more of my runs than any other enemy
>>735021506Its just an insta win Got Big bang with clone? Congrats you won the game
>can't get a win with silent>get to door giant with good sly deck>play mayhem (plays top card on deck at start of turn)>almost win grueling fight at like turn 15>mayhem plays bullet time>no draw allowed>hand full of prepared>no block in hand>giant attacking for 32>have 28 health>i wasn't prepared>i fucked myself over>i don't deserve to live>still no wins with silent
How many ascensions are there so far
>>735014603what's the usecase for exhausting your entire hand?
Favorite monster and why is it Seapunk?
>>735023984Shitass status cards, X on exhaust powers
>>735018428What do you think about Doom?
>>735014283Barricade was one of the best cards in the first game, let alone this game.
forge is so fucking dogshit. why yes, I WILL build my deck around a single card, I WILL play cards whose sole purpose is to add like 7 damage to that cart, and I WILL make it a two-cost card with only one or two ways to bring it back into my hand!...or I could just gain infinite energy and block and attack with starsbtw, clone is really funny. pic related, 64 adrenalines
>>73502392010, though it's faster paced compared to STS1's in how they scale. A10 is the equivalent to A20 here
>>735023984>leave cards you don't want to continue to use in your hand>exhaust>your deck now has several less cards in it, cycling you to your better suited cards much more efficiently
>>735023984you never draw those cards again for the rest of the fight. You can play cards you want to keep first then shrink your deck by getting rid of the bad cards.
>>735024497JUST GET FURNACE BRO4 FORGE A TURN IN MUTLI WITH HAMMER TIME IS RETARDED
Just make sovereign blade cost 1 but make the base damage lower.
I really don't like regent
>>735021702Is there a forge + block card? If not there should be. Given that it's a hefty setup mechanic you really would want something to steady you as you build it up.
Absolute madlad.GG guys.
>>735023840That's what you get for using mayhem.
>>735024763I agree. the other characters feel really well-developed, but his three gimmicks are all really half-baked. stars is really feast or famine depending on whether you can get good generation and decent cards to actually spend it on. forge is just underpowered. and minions are basically nonexistent despite the regent's description making them seem like they'd be a vital mechanic. and there's also card creation, but who the hell has the energy for that?
Are colorless cards outside of apotheosis actually usable now?
>>735024972gg, was a really funny deck after the parasol + courier in act 3
>>735009228The only time I killed this bastard without any issue was with Necrobinder using an Osty build. Lots of high base damage cards.
>>735024972I had defend cards + strikes I guess/10
>>735007373The spike should be>A10 forced elite on floor 6 with no aoe and it's the eelstime to restart
>>735025152You smashed shit up pretty good. I misplayed like half of my hands, and I also have no idea why I thought I wanted that orichalcum. t. Necro
>>735005069>kill act 2 boss with the hunt >get to see 6 rares>none of them good
>>735025097>nowDramatic entrance, flash of steel, master of strategy, secret weapon/technique and the bomb were all useful to begin with. I also really miss trip because I'd enjoy that on ironclad.
>>735025016Card creation is fun and I love the idea of focusing on colorless cards but it really does suck. It doesn't help that a bunch of the cards related to card creation are shit or underpowered>pillar of creation doesn't give you enough block>spectrum shift costing 2 at base>heirloom hammer costing 2 always>arsenal would be better off costing 0 on upgrade>crash landing needs GUARDS!
>>735025418Stacking bombs was really funny. Master of Strategy would be fucking cracked in 2, so it makes sense that they removed it
>>735025362happened to me yesterday. I wish half the "rare" cards in this game weren't just dead weight unless they synergize with your archetype
>>735022701dps check that rapes any deck lopsided towards not-damage
>>735025497>remove energy boss relics from the game>load one of the new characters with a shit ton of expensive cards>give him few options for block so he can't even turtle while he tries to play themI have to wonder what happened with their beta testers to make them think this was a good idea
>supercritical>supercritical >tempest>voltaic>voltaic>voltaic >voltaic Love this fat ass robot like you wouldn’t believe.
>>735007373How we feeling with the Door? Just got my shit rocked by him
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>>735025859I love the co-op cards, they're so fun. Beacon of Hope is so cool. I hope we get more, I'd love a way for defect to give people orbs other than plasma and maybe silent could give people shivs or poison somehow.
>>735025904Never had any trouble with him, his damage output is kind of pathetic. Queen has rocked my shit multiple times, though, especially on Ironclad. No draw? DIE.
>>735024938There is. It's the best forge card you can take without any other forge.
>>735018185End of Days is the best boss killer
>>735026026It's crazy how fun I've had with coop for how simple it is. I like how they let the multiplayer cards be a little busted too. Promotes more cooperation. I agree that I'd like them to add some even funnier or more unique cards for each of the classes though. Maybe even create unique synergy ones like shivs that do more damage for each orb your Defect friend has, or Ironclad exhausting cards also buffing Osty. That kind of thing.
>>735013414>>735013676I did the exact same thing. 17 free damage per turn is enough to get you through act 1 elites.
>>735026209Feels like there should be a card that lets Osty eat hits for your allies for a turn.
>>735009923>why does Regent feel so inconsistenti didn't pay StS1 and I'm relatively new to the genre, but even I can tell that draw is king. The most fatal thing is misaligned turns (drawing nothing but block on an attack turn, drawing nothing but attack on a block turn), and being able to pivot out of one is vital. Regent feels inconsistent because it isn't as easy for him to do this from the get-go.>Ironclad gets a ton of card draw from pommel strike and shrug it off, and bloodletting and headbutt basically guarantee he'll be able to salvage a misaligned turn>it isn't a coincidence that Silent, THE card draw character, is so strong>Defect's orbs and abundant 0 cost cards help mitigate misaligned turns>Necrobinder has a ton of control over her deck with ethereal and soul is an easy-to-generate source of drawEveryone else can wing it with a good deck, but it feels like the developers really want you to plan ahead and be very aware of what's in your draw pile as Regent, much more than other characters. He has a lot of delayed draw, whether it's drawing additional cards on the next turn for stars, moving cards in your hand to the top of your draw pile, or retain. So it's only natural that the build that gives him the most flexibility, stars, is so good relative to his other options.
if i don't get hellraiser in act 1 I might as well restart my run
>>735026269Intercept is a colorless multiplayer card that kinda lets you do that. Not exactly though since you'll take any extra damage that goes through Osty's health.
>>735017513Is it possible for defect to win with anything besides a one for all deck?
>>735026495Powers isn't as good as it used to be due to the lack of permanent focus, but it's still bretty good
>>735025943Hey, I'm not fucking up your ascension, right? I should have everything up to 10 through text editing but I can go do it again if needed
>>735021168If you're trying to grind out the ascensions just join the official slay the spire discord. Tons of people trying to do it there 24/7 for now. You want to get it done early before the hype dies down
>>735025904Easiest Act 3 boss, I think he's unfinished or something
>>735026179act 3 bosses have 400+ hp. end of days does 29/37 flat, no scaling. how the fuck is it better boss killer?
>>735026794It was a crutch that saved me repeatedly. End of Days makes Doom trigger immediately instead of letting the boss boss's turn happen.
Ironclad literally has no block cards
Turns out custom runs are added to your total stats, I just quit out of 3 custom runs due to bugs and they all counted as losses
>>735027115He literally does
>>735027151oh no, a number on a screen, how painful for my ego nooooo...
>>735027115I don't understand why people suck off Barricade while Ironclad can barely muster up enough block to negate one attack, much less stockpile block
>>735027115>>735027296brehs, your Impervious?
I didn't even know you could turn Otsy giant with enough Summons.
>>735020427>turn 3>you’ve done a collective 4 damagebased block chad
Got a bit of a dark orb leaning, which one would you guys recommend? Multicast or consuming? I know multicast is good but I kinda wanna try consuming shadows.
The other guy killed himself, HOSTINGsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242873870607/76561198045374077Will go to the highest possible ascension, but anyone's welcome
Well, now I fucking now that the fairy doesn't work if the worm eats you.
>>735027296Unmovable/blood wall+. You dumb.
>>735027616You should make a reddit post asking why it didn't trigger to unlock the next character
>>735027616This boss is a nigger
>>735027381sorry I should say he has no block cards that arent rares, his rare block cards are quite good but other than that its just shrug and blood wall
>>7350276072/4, looks like we're doing A:2.JOIIIIIIIN
>>735027763WE GAAN
>>735027636>rare card only works if you have another rare card and spend 2 energy on a block card that's otherwise worse than 2 shrug it offsuh yeah, still looks like shit
>>735027729Evil eye.
>>735027930>rare card only works if you have another rare cardthat's like 80% of the cards in this game
>>735006524fishy wtf are you doing
That venom boss feels like such a lottery. How do you even prepare for this shit, there are no potions that help, you either see multi-hit cards or you lose.
>>735027726for you
WAIT SHE IS A NIGGER???????
>>735028317Yeah, can't believe they blackwashed the famously white Silent.That's not our Silent. Go back and watch the trailer, faggot.
>click floor 4 hallway fight>combined 80hp swinging for combined 20 every turnok
>>735005253>Plays vulnerable after everything elseNani!?
>>735028556Jesus, shut the fuck up. Not every dark skinned character needs to be niggerfied. Yes, she always had a darker skin tone, but that doesn’t mean she was a sub-Saharan African.
>still no necrobinder lewdsArtists are wasting their time turning reagent into a loli and not enough time making a sexy bone girl
I give up on Regent. I have no idea what am I supposed to do to not die or even get past act 2 with him
>>735028317Always has been
Porn of Nonupeipe when?
The regent boss reward card that makes every card you play give stars is pretty fucking nutty
>>735028715Well, get used to it bitch boy. She's a disgusting sheboon and you'll have to seethe.
>>735028779Get more block.
I have reached ascension 10 with 3 characters but cannot make it to act 3 on with the necrobinderI actually feel uncomfortable playing the character, in the literal sense of the word, like every single card choice I make feels wrong
>>735027454yep, also Regent's sword when forge is high enough
>Pael's Tooth>Remove 5 cards from your deck. After each combat, randomly add 1 back upgraded.Does this guarantee give it back or can you choose to not take it back like with the thief?
>>735029010It's put back into your deck with no option to refuse.
Am I only one taking it easy and playing like two or three runs a day?
I kinda hate this fucker not gonna lie. He also embodies an annoying thing about events in that you cant fucking skip so many of them.
>>735028991So, choose the opposite of what you'd normally take.
>>735028715You're acting like she was confirmed to be some melanated Asian before they race-swapped her. There was nothing in the first game that confirmed she wasn't black.
>>735029153Assumed as much but had to check, thanks
>>735029170Under what fucking circumstances would you want to keep the mailbox over literally anything else
>>735029170This event is great tho? Most of the time you're throwing a trash relic for a better one.
>>735029170The bug guy is way more annoying for being unskippable
FUCK YOU TEA FAGGOT THEY ALL SUCK
>>735029157probably
>>735029170balances as there are more positive ones?
>>735029268The fact that I can rest + smith + cook at campsites? Potions are great.>>735029303Not always. In this particular case meal ticket doesnt do anything for me.
>>735029512Fuck the stone cracker, get the hourglass. You don't care much about those 3 upgrades if you have the campsite.
I hit A8 and I'm getting checked by my card quality being too poor after act 1. Should I just start taking on long hallways of enemies for more chances to roll?
>>735028812shit takes time man
>>735030065Your priority should be building your deck and maintaining hp first, elites second, event rooms third. As you've just found out not having a solution figured out for your deck means your run ends on a future floor you're unprepared for
>>735029809I ditched the mailbox but its fine. I ended up having no problems with the queen.Consuming shadow is a very interesting and powerful card. I quite enjoyed this build, nice to see dark orbs can still work and really pump out damage.
>can get past act 1 easy>starting to get through act 2 but the bosses fuck me uphow do i get gud
>>735031326what ascension? just keep playing until you learn the card combos
what's your most consistent regent deck
>>735031495no ascension because this is my first time playing slay the spire
>>735030212>maintaining hp first, elites second, event rooms thirdThis was true in sts1 but currently in sts2 it's event rooms second and elites avoid if possible on floor 1/2 unless you already have your deck figured outThis is due to events having been buffed in general while the elite relic pool has been massively nerfed so most of the time you are just trading a good chunk of your health for a disappointment and a chance to get a good card drop
>>735031814All characters are busted in this game. They're not like Watcher, but between her and the rest in StS1
>turn 1 on the act 1 bossI thought Necrobinder was mediocre, but now that I managed to draft a good deck for once I'm thinking she might be broken
I've been playing since release but it's my first time checking out the thread, what's the consensus?I love playing Necro. How do I get past stuff like early Bygone effigy on A10? Feels as bad as early Laga for Silent in STS. I only beat A10 once.Picrel: my A9 victory where I let the game play itself using the powers that do doom every turn and damage for every status applied. Deathbringer might be my favorite card. The art for Grave Warden is so cool I started playing Necro because of it.Why is captcha even worse than before tho?
>>735031914I meant the act 2 boss*>tfw I already deleted my first attempt of this post because I forgot the image
I got utterly bonemogged by the other Necro ;_;GG guys.
>>735031773I'd say in general you're right, but I'd rather have the consistency over an event that does nothing for you now, but will pay out for a later you might never reach.
Road to Ascension 10 DefectAscension 6 Quadcast Niggernuke
>>735031326Skipping cards can often be the best option. It's entirely possible to build your whole deck around one specific card and trying to maximize its effects.
>>735032052I understand my sword going hardGG
First time playing a claw deck and it went well.Maybe I'm a believer now.
>>735032137>that card name with that artIs this a deadlock reference?
>>735032251Claw is legitimately good now if you build around it
when asmon plays it today game count rises to million
>the character that shuffles infinite pot of greeds into their deck every turn and has inherent scaling in the starter deck>there are people that struggle with thisoh no no no no no
>>735032137isn't this absurdly broken?
Got better cards this time around, and Doom build is better than I though. Or maybe The Scythe+Reaper Form is busted. Still think I like Osty builds more.This one I thought would be more of a nuisance than useful, but it means you can get Death's Door to triple block every turn.
>>735032325Are you getting paid for this? Embarrassing otherwise
>>735032345Would be helpful if I saw any of those soul cards…
Defect is so dogshit if you don't find skim or overclock
>>735028317yeah the devs are pretty woke if you pay attention
>>735032398Yes, absolutely. It exhausts by default but I got the event that removes exhaust from a card, so lol, lmao
>>735032453The drawback for this card doesn't exist unless you are already on low hp, and even then you always get at least 2 full turns after playing it before you can die from it
>>735032527Sadly true, but it doesn't impact the actual mechanics of the game so I don't really care
>>735017783>2 out of 3 regent build types are pure ass>None of them synergizeNo I dont think so
>>735032453That's one of the strongest Necrobinder cards. If you manage to find Jackpot off of a shop you can start playing 50 cards a turn because Jackpot will pull Neurosurge and that other 0 cost card that gives you 1 energy
Nostalgia is crazy good just looped it with up my sleeve 4 free shivs every turn
I get wildly different impressions on the game's difficulty between reading posts here and a few other places VS watching the guy with 10,000 hours in the first sts stream it.
>>735032052That was probably the strongest build I've put together yet. Chemical x, dirge, 2x borrowed time, friendship, invoke, and finally transfigure meant I had a 2x repeating dirge that I fired off for 15 energy on the last turn of the game. Lost a total of 12 hp on that entire run.
>>735032773Colorless and forge synergyze because the sword is colorlessA shame both of them SUCK
>>7350328452 is objectively easier so far, regardless of character. Hopefully balance patches will make it more difficult.
>>735018168GG my first win with her was ice cream eradicate
>>735032835I just found out today that jackpot only gives you cards from your class and suddenly it jumped like 3 whole tiers in my personal tierlist. I always avoided it because I thought it was 3 0 cost cards from the whole card pool and thought it was too unreliable
>>735032453a lot of the apply doom to yourself cards are meaningless because you rarely if ever take chip damage as necrobinder, so cards like this take ten turns to actually kill you which means nothingif you're ever taking damage as necro it's going to be all at oncea basically identical version of doom was tried years ago during sts1 modding (it was also called doom which is funny) and I didn't like it for the same reasons I don't like doom nowI feel like doom, summon, and souls all need reworks.
Prophesize has to be the shittiest draw card of all time.
>>735033134Yeah, it's pretty good. Might honestly be playable even if it didn't deal damage.
>>735033309>say any card is bad>get flooded with (You)s telling you you're a retard and that card is actually broken
Pael always has the best relics.
>devs are adding a phobia option
Forge and colorless are good though. Like with colorless all the transform cards are really powerful. Charge is insane you can transform 2 dead cards in your deck. The other low cost one and guard can change your hand too so you can get ride of curses or strikes. With forge you just take the passive power and hold onto it for a big hit. If you go all in on forge it’s bad but there are good forge cards.
>>735029170The sucker took one of my wax relics, he's in for a surprise.
The game is too hard for me bros...
>doom build as Necro>act 3 get the loom for max hp because the other options weren't better >get TWO fucking scroll of biting hallway fightsHoly fuck playing slow vs these fucks is just the worst. It takes 2 bad draws to just destroy your max hp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg0bBSFhNFwlmao he's better than most of you
low effort bait
>>735033474Just put a thousand hours in the first one and it's easy.
>>735033506Should have gotten a few aoe doom.
>>735033709I got Deathbringer and Negative Pulse just bad draw RNG for the first two turns. Friendship was also on the bottom of the draw pile so just energy starved for blocks.
>tfw Necro just clicks and you ascendReject Ostytimmies Aquire Etherealness and True Doom
>>735032840>remove exhaust from whistle >nostalgia gives it back every turn GGs to any lone enemy.
this is my first time encountering this enemy what do I do here
>>735033410His relics are either ass, or the best possible outcome.
>>735033965Have you tried killing them?
>>735033965kill them until they die
>>735033965Just kill them, the replacement ones always enter shielding+buffing so you can just focus on dpsing them downHonestly one of the easiest act 3 encounters imo
>>735033410I honestly love the enchant defends one, they actually provide you with decent frontload blocking and then fuck off your deck
>>735033980Which are ass? The only one I find myself never picking is energy starting on the third turn.
>>735033965If once is not enough...
>>735033965silence them to disable the deathrattle
>>735034001>>735034019>>735034040>>735034082>>735034169it was easy
>>735017790ENTER
>>735033954banshee's cry is so good. I had a fun deck with the power that draws on ethereal draws, and another one with the power that creates ethereals.
>>735034070I don't like that one. Relax is... okay but I'm not impressed most of the time.And enchanting your defends with goop reads super strong but it never works out for me. And I understand the value of your crappy cards exhausting and never coming back in bossfights and whatnot but in practice it doesn't work.You either>have to spend time on hallway fights playing your shitty defends to scaleor>have to spend time during important fights playing your shitty defends so that they don't show up againand both of those things are a tough ask. But pretty much all of his other relics are great in one way or the other.
where catalyst?
>>735017274Electrodynamics died so voltaic could fly
>>735034382>have to spend time during important fights playing your shitty defends so that they don't show up againThe point is farming them up in hallway fights so that when you draw them in a bossfight you can just play them like a good block card instead of them being a dead draw, you don't bother farmig them up in dangerous fights
How does debuffs apply to Door/Goatse boss? I presume it just full clean slate wipes when they shift back and forth
>the upgraded Sword of the Stars costs 1 less >no consistent way for Regent to upgrade it in combat I MEAN COME ON
>>735034541But all fights are dangerous fights. You pick that, then start the act and get hit by the fucking insect that steals a card and you have to race, so you don't have time to play your defends. You're -1 on the easy enemy encounter pool and still haven't farmed your defends. Blegh.I've tried it a few times and it takes too much effort in my opinion for not such a great payoff, scaling by 1 is very slow too.I'm willing to say it's skill issue if you want.
>>735034645They stick to the actual boss, but get cleansed off the door between rounds.
>had my first death on the silent in the new gamethis is what happens when the game gives you a ton of sly cards and you foolishly PICK THEM THINKING ITLL GIVE YOU SOME FUCKING DISCARD CARDS
I got spiral on strike and transformed hoping the transformed card would keep spiral but it does notLesson learned as the watcher says
>>735034748Just play survivor dumdum
>>735034738>by the time you responded, Hidden Gem hit on Hang and the massive Replay stack just one shot himDamn that card is getting nerfed. Even 2 cost 2 replay is probably worth using, or atleast just make it exhaust
>>735034923Pressure Point walked so Hang can run.
I accidentally killed myself using decision decisions on brightest flame
How far can the door guy get out. I've never seen past the third time when you see hands.
Is it me or did they make Silent hotter in STS2?
>>735034923Yeah, Necro goes absurdly hard if you don't manage to get fucked in Act 1. She's like a less bursty Watcher with innate Barricade.
>>735032259100%.
I just won with a largely focus based deck on A0 and it was merely okay. This isn't StS1 where you can stack 20 stamina because Defragment is only uncommon, though I did have one. Thunder adding 8 damage to lighting evokes was nice, though I didn't find THE lightning orb rare and in fact skipped act 1 rewards.
I'm really feeling the regent. My loss the first time was because I had yet to consider that forge is worthless. Also, the first half of this run felt really bad because I just wouldn't get any star gain cards
>>735035356Your first Forge card is fucking great. Your second one isn't.
The A8 difficult jump is really dicking my regent
>>735035145I guess she's technically showing more skin since she isn't wrapped up in her cloak anymore.
>>735035145>>735035848She's got nice thighs.
Probably is pretty cute.
>>735035930How come it played twice?
>>735036079Boss relic that doubles your first card played per combat.
I'm getting a lot better at dealing with a shitty boss relic, but it still feels like the run is doomed from that point.
>>735036208It feels slightly less doomed to me than in Spire 1If nothing else, every character has a lot more energy generation in their card pools.
How'd I do /v/? I had a disproportionately large number of deaths figuring out Necrobinder on A9, kept dying in act 1.
Globe Head is a bitch, taking more damage from him than from elites
>>735036314give me ironclad tips
>>735036882Exhaust. Just fucking Exhaust.
>>735028779Make stars, spend stars. S tier cards:>Chaaarge>Decisions, Decisions>Radiate>Reflect>Glow>Hidden Cache>Basically any power that interacts with starsAnd then just good StS principles. Build raw power before elites, build long term scaling before bosses, try to find decent aoe before Act 2, etc. Just believe in the damn stars. Most cards that trigger off gaining/spending stars do so for EACH STAR gained, which is absolutely fucking broken and will be tuned down.My last run I got Akebeko and Radiate and shat out something like 14x10 damage to all enemies on turn one without even trying. Regent's strong.
regent a10 is harder than act4 a20 on any sts1 character
>>735036946>Regent's strong.only reason faggots like you say this is because the character's a slot machine. you get one good run (sub a10 no doubt) and you think he's good
Child of the Stars is really, REALLY strong desu.
>>735034685It is kinda weird they didn't keep that watcher power around considering they built a whole theme around card creation for regent
>>735036882Prioritize cards that either make energy or draw more cards. Bloodletting, Expect a Fight, Forgotten Ritual for energy, Pommel Strike, Battle Trance, Burning Pact, and even Spite (with Bloodletting) for draw. Offering is both and thereby god tier. Aside from that, just take powerful attacks and if you can angle into exhaust that's ideal (starting with enabler cards like True Grit or Second Wind) but not necessary
