You have 30 seconds to name 5 games set in the bronze age before 知编(Tre Bian) of Shang decides to throw you to the river full of Chinese Crocodiles as a sacrifice for the gods
have archeologists ever figured out what caused the bronze age collapse?
>>735009738Nope.
>>735009738mass migration into civilized lands, as usual
>>735009686I'm still butthurt about the other thread being moved to /b/PS: They are gators, not crocs
>>735009738It was a multitude of factors, but the primary one was the mass migration and resulting chaos caused by the sea peoples, who then destroyed much of the bronze age civs. Others, like Egypt, managed to survive but went bankrupt from the war effort that they collapsed or went into steep decline after wards, allowing the assyrians and greeks to rise into power.
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>>735010896comfyreject humanity, return to reptile
>>735009686Pharaoh.Zeus.Emperor: rise of the Middle Kingdom.Immortal cities: children of the Nile.Nebuchadnezzar.
>>735010297>>735010567but what caused the sea peoples to risk everything by packing everything up and launching amphibious invasions?
>>735011315That's the thing. Nobody knows. They didn't exactly leave any recognizable artefacts. Archeologists can only think of them as a massive confederacy or group of various tribes/races who all decided to loot and pillage the mediterrenean. They didn't settle or create new kingdoms. They simply left afterwards.
>>735011315all we have is speculation, even the concept of the sea people is mostly hypothetical
I read somewhere that the Shang were originally not a ethnicity but a loose group of various immigrant tribes who shared the common culture of human sacrifice against everyone but them
>>735011704Interesting. I've read that the Zhou tried to bury all those human sacrifice rituals and invented the mandate of heaven to justify their rule instead of killing people.
>>735009686That's a real sweet looking aesthetic
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When did you realize the developed world of today used to be swamps covered in colossal trees and inhabited by beasts?
These legit look like AI
>>735009738Probably climate change. It's always climate change.
>>735013348lol
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>>735009686Tre Bian? I'm Bon Gior No>>kicks you into the river instead
>>735014657Modern Japanese crocodile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGHFb6tYv6k
>>735011704That, and there are evidences to suggest they practiced cannibalism. Frankly you've got the set pieces for a survival horror if you base a game on the Shang
>>735019018Here we can see the effects xenoestrogens in tap water had on crocodiles
>>735019048eh, it's not like that ever went out of fashion, comradehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_Asia#China
>>735019425And their effects on black and Mexican communities?Or the feminizing hormones in the Mexican labeled cereals?Its why the fat ones have those tits and why we got Lil nas x and yachty
Bump
>>735009738The cutting-edge of historians consider it a myth of sorts. We have no evidence of apocalyptic warfare anywhere in Greece, Anatolia, nor the Middle East.Basically what happened is that it's a long stretch of time during which you saw a shift in trade routes that brutally fucked the uber-primitive palatial complex states. These suddenly stopped being the only way to survive and people fucked off. Hence why the elite culture (old writing, elaborate palaces and bronze crap) croaked but the cities all show perfect continuity.There was no apocalyptical horde, there was no natural catastrophe, there was simply a bankruptcy of the 0.1% of society... which is obviously "The end of the world" if you're a 19th century archaeologist who has no tech to look for human settlements, no tech to date layers of settlement, no tech to check for continued habitation, etc. You can only pick out shity shit in the ground and if said shiny shit stops being there you declare the end of the world and look for an apocalypse that caused it.So yeah, they figured it out. TL;DR: Nothing. There has never been such a thing. It was a theory based on lack of research that simply survives in popculture because like always, a bombastic lie is more exciting than the carefully researched, but boring truth. Ask the dinosaur people. Or Scandinavian historians. Was that a ninja with superfolded katanas I just saw in my latest AssShit release? Et cetera. You get my point.
>>735023260Kinda like how the Maya Collapse turned out to mostly just be the extinction of a very specific political system/elite culture & the main cities that propped it up in one specific region, and not in fact the complete breakdown of a civilization as is popularly believed
>>735023260And some sources for the interested:>Broodbank (2013) The Making of the Middle Sea>Oliver Dickinson (2006) The Aegean from Bronze Age to Iron Age.>Hogue (2016) ‘New Evidence of Post-Destruction Re-Use at the Palace of Pylos’>Susan Sherratt (2001) 'Potemkin Palaces and Route-Based Economies'Which covers the whole thing in detail. How these palace states worked, how their system started falling apart and most crucially how the actual day to day life and culture of everyone around them stayed exactly the same.
>>735009686>Those patternsHe was right all along
>>735023587Yeah. It's just a bitch to research these things with old tech. Back then all Mayanists could see were the biggest pyramids in the middle of fucking nowhere.Just like it would be unthinkable back then to dig up old latrines and date parasite eggs to find out whether a community continued to inhabit the area or not, what sort of shit they ate from spectrometry of the pottery shards. They could only dig up, look for artifacts, note that at certain point they see shit burned down and there's an identifiably Ancient Greek layer further on top.It is perfectly understandable why they came up with those theories back in the day, given the primitive toolsets they had at their disposal. When they weren't blasting shit with dynamite just to randomly declare they found the exact shit they were looking for... ahem.
