>area boss>weaker than a minibossWhat were they thinking?
I want to complain about the Man on the Moon. He sucks.
>shits himself aggresively
>>735011310he's a dumb fat fuck (endearing)
Buy an ad you shilling nigger
>>735011352He blows actually
ねぇ ちゃんと聞いてる?
PILLS
>>735011310cute gambling kitty>>735011418I love this drawing so much
>>735011352he's whatever but the music alone makes that entire area worth it.>LET ME RUN AWAY>NO EARTH TO GROUND CONTROL
If you are a woman, hello!
>completely wipe and loose all my good shit and some of the best breeding catsSo, what the fuck do I do nowDo I go back to act 1 and just grind furniture and shit?
>>735011951I'm in the same boat and I'm about to do a collarless run or two for the checkmarks and get some gear back. it really sucks, though.
>>735011706hardest fight in the entire game blind
My current goal is to breed a cat with super luck(plus version gives +77 luck), fist of fate(the plus version has a luck based chance to attack again), and repair(can remove worn from gear), then take that cat and soul jar it so I have a repair bot that can delete everything
>>735012071Forgot pic
>>735011868oh sit, we can make this happen lil guy
>>735012232kino
>>735012232BRAVO KOJIMA
230 hours in and I finally got to hear "Nice little bow on top". It's as bad as advertised.Is this voice also the one that goes "Yes, oh yes, please"? It's either that or I got two shit voices.
>>735012414> "Yes, oh yes, please"? Pretty sure that's Ed's daughter>"I'm hort!"
>>735012216>>735012216That actually sounds nuts. Does soul jar keep permanent stat changes? Could do a run with a bunch of steroids to bump his strength up before you jar him
is there ever a reason to not buy the level up candy?even in runs where I'm going home I still figure might as well since its not that expensive
Well, this is easily the most broken team I have ever assembled in my trillion hours in this game. Good lord.
Was there even a Black Lotus reference in the game?
>>735012563feels good to break the game doesn't it
>>735012563Oooh baby
>>735011352Positioning the hands is annoying. Sometimes it's better just to send a beefy cat into his mouth and command the hands to attack, unless it has shit intelligence otherwise the mana demand won't be met.I've cleared all the acts with all collars and I've been just fucking around with goofy strategies. I found a ball-peen hammer and a friendship bracelet in a single run, so I decided to test out charming things. Turns out Tremblos can and will consume the man on the moon instantly.
>>735012785YOU GOT TO BE TUFFTHIS WORLD IS SO ROUGH
>>735012825My next taming experiment was with a mega mutant. He one-shot The Child and Dreadnoughtus but the jester with fist of fate+ and a magic dart was more broken.
Was winning too hard so I had to start skipping turns just so that everyone could get in on the fun.Shame I still haven't unlocked whatever is after the volcano. But all is end that ends well. GG.
>>735012895nearly 200 hours in and I've never seen this thing before until now. Wasn't brave enough to mess with it.
>>735012703This is why Mewgenic rules. The bullshit goes both ways.>>735012885WHY ARE WE HERE?AND WHY'S IT SO UNCLEAR?
>>735012785is this how playing at speed 1 looks like?this is awful wtf?
>>735012972Also on this run, you can see my jester there had harpooner as his passive and for whatever reason it was reflexively shot the rifle whenever any enemy moved and it didn't drain the weapon usage at all. Seems like an oversight.
>>735011814god it's such a smooth tune, took like 3 loops before i realized it was about drug use
>>735012895My sins did not go unpunished.
>>735012059I don't know how people didn't see the boss riding out of a pool of magma with the name PYROphina and didn't get the hint that water might just counter the boss gimmick.
>>735012414i have had so fucking many "wrapped it all up" "nice little bow on top" cats. i am about to replace those lines manually.have yet to hear the other one
>>735013176get your ADHD checked.
>>735013176shut up it makes me feel cozy instead of harried
>>735012059>wow this bitch comes from hell, for sure she has fire attacks, I wonder if the hose works or it's a groudon situation>it worksif you had any way of creating water tiles you had no excuse, being blind or notshe really should have a way to at least counter it a bit, like the volcano stomp deleting your water tiles on the borders of the map, or when she activates firestorm due to low hp the water tiles would dry
Am I bad at the game? I hate act 2 desert start. It's so fucking boring, all of the enemies are overpowered (at the beginning). Your run lives and dies within the first area because if you lose too much HP, you're run is over. Starting with shitty ass level 1 cats sucks ass because all of the desert enemies have more HP, have stupid shit like "can only be attacked from behind", and you're always under a heatwave. It's just anti-fun. The only good run I EVER had at the desert was when it started to rain for the entire area from a random event. Legit don't know how to progress because Act 2 sucks so bad and my cats are always so underpowered in comparison
unlocked and beat chaos, pretty fun boss and area
>>735013396Just take it slow, you can bust the cacti to make a water tile and that removes the desert debuff if they walk through it.There's not really any super dangerous enemies there, it just punishes people who have been coasting through taking a bunch of unnecessary damage.
>>735013396act 2 enemies are mostly piss easy, the name of the game in chapter 2 is patience. you can't trade damage for damage in the desert.
>>735013445CRAZY DAYSSTUCK IN A WORMHOLE
>>735013396What is your party composition normally like? Are you making sure to right click to check enemy attack and movement ranges? If you're heavily melee focused it's much better to just stall for a turn to get everything in range of you rather than walking in range of the enemy to let them attack you first. If you have any way of making water tiles (items like hose, skills like pissing yourself, busting up cacti) you can negate the heatwave debuff for one room.
>>735011706Thankfully my fighter was busted and I killed her in 4 turns
ALIEN CRATERFELINE INVADERALIEN CRATERFELINE INVADER
I minmax'd a bit too hard
>>735013772one-shot johnny if he cat
>>735012059I beat her first try. I think this is a genuine skill issue
>>735011951If I'm really in the dumps, a couple of Throbbinf King runs gets me back in a very confortable spot
I love Crystaline Dreams, but every time I hear the line “I’ve got eight hairy legs” my brain immediately thinks of this videohttps://youtu.be/3DbE2SmV2bs
>>735011951Make sure to prepare some tasty asparagus to go with your steak
>The Alley and the End have identical maps
i haven't used a tank in a long time
>>735013814I do Throbbing King runs just to hear HE GR3W UP NASTY AND HE GREW UP MEAN
>>735013931This but also ClericThey feel so gimped by the entire of act 3, not just some levels, all of it
Get slapped
>finally get to do the last antenna quest>game decides to give me four tank collarsalright, guess I'm doing this then
>Wiki: 50% chance to be applied to adjacent cats from a inflicted cat at the end of their movement actionTHEY DONT MENTION THAT IN THE GAME, FUCKER
>>735014047I only use cleric if I have any item that increases speed. They lag behind too much otherwise
>>735014312Contagious
>>735014312>contagious
>>735014392>>735014409Could be at the end/start of a turn but not just moving
>>735014047I bring a cleric with me on every adventure I go on. There's always some niche I can cash in on to make them useful. Haste, Stimulants, HP Regen Aura, sharing is caring+spamming holy shields, adoubment+, cleansing, blinding, open wounds. Clerics are insanely powerful. And so are druids. The support classes in Mewgenics are incredible but I can see why people would want to roll just pure damage.
>>735014312I had a veteran get covid and used them in a early Tina fight, it spread so fast and through shit like rocks that I instantly pipe any "contagious" ailment to this day
I had a fight against man in the moon where I attacked a hand and it fucking died. Like it was the beginning of the battle, I jump my tank over to it and punch it, and it drops to zero health. Wtf happened?
>>735014481the movement is there so you can move to the enemy and give it the disease
>>735013176my pc cant tun it faster, but also i hate watching faster gameplay because its hard for me to follow
>>735011310So how do I get good at this trash issac game?>tanks are overpowered and basically required for every run>fighter is a worse version of a tank>ranger is almost always completely broken and necessary for every run as well>mage is more often than not pure garbage and serves zero purpose>healers seem to be necessary only for desert and are shit if you don't get any ranged heals or debuff removal>rogue is a worse version of a fighter, you either dish out 40 damage per turn or die in two turns due to no mobility or defensive items not working>necromancer is a meme, worse than mage>tinkerer is insanely powerful most of the timeDidn't get to try druid and butcher much, it's the third time I've restarted my save.
>>735013176The sound effects are desynced from the animations the moment you bump it up and the animations themselves look weird and jerky at higher speeds. Personally I don't know how anyone can stand it.
>>735014707>restarting a saveWhat the fuck for? Is losing that traumatizing for you?
are you feeling it now Mr.krabs
Look at this Gun
>>735014783what the fuck
>>735013396>Your run lives and dies within the first area because if you lose too much HP, you're run is overAnd if you're not dogshit, this is almost completely 100% in your control
>>735014707the fuck are you restarting the save for you retard
>>735013931try getting other classes attacks on a tank. necro had some attack called blood geyser that some cat of mine inherited and it was doing 30 damage on enemies (but you take the same amount)
>>735014773>>735014830I beat Pyrophina and decided that my cats are shit, can't breed good ones, so I restarted.
>>735014312i got this the other day. its a fucking run killer
>>735014707Why are you restarting the save?>Tinkerer is insanely powerful most of the timeNevermind this is bait
>>735014792orang
>>735014872what exactly makes you think that restarting will make them not shit? are you stupid?
>charms you
>>735014707>how do i get good with all these overpowered classes?
>>735014707>tanks are overpowered and basically required for every runNot at all true. In fact after a while a tank can end up doing nothing >fighter is a worse version of a tankHis damage is absurdly good, far better than tank>ranger is almost always completely broken and necessary for every run as wellBroken? Yes. Necessary? No>mage is more often than not pure garbage and serves zero purposeNot building them correctly>healers seem to be necessary only for desert and are shit if you don't get any ranged heals or debuff removalI agree that they can be underpowered. But you also really don’t need them for the desert. Just share a water item around and you’re fine>rogue is a worse version of a fighter, you either dish out 40 damage per turn or die in two turns due to no mobility or defensive items not workingYou need a mobility move or backflips otherwise yea, they’ll die. They’re meant to get in, crit, then get out>necromancer is a meme, worse than mageBuilding them wrong>tinkerer is insanely powerful most of the timeWew lad
>>735014792Gun sexo
>>735014872If you can't understand why that is stupid then there is no helping youBut that's not surprising given your opinion on the classes
>>735014707got two lines into that and realized you were retarded, yeah restart more that will surely help lmao
>>735014504I always end up wanting a great support like this but I end up with a mono healer with nothing to heal except for maybe 1 bad hit every 5 or so encounters
>>735014872Restarting is not going to make it easier to breed better cats. You're going to have to grind all over again for furniture, something that's probably going to be made harder once they patch out duping.
>>735014707>fighter is a worse version of a tankMeanwhile all my fighters carry my runs even when the game keeps giving them parasites to nerf their powerlevelAnd don't restart the savefile, just pipe all your cats and get a new lot of strays
>>735014901>>735014963Why do you autists hate tinkerer? Nigga can literally make a bazooka and summons a mech, or pushing robots that rape Dybbuk into submission.
>>735011352If you don't know the gimmick, he's incredibly annoying. I don't disagree.
>>735014707>Necromancer is a memeAre you retarded?>it's the third time I've restarted my save.Are you retarded?
>>735015053His basic attack is shit and a lot of his skills are just situational garbage. Sure he might occasionally get something good but most of the time he doesn’t
>>735015053Tinkerer is the definition of a feast-or-famine class who is famine 75% of the time
>>735015053The bazookas hurt you and your team. If the mech is destroyed (oops it's huge and unwieldy and also hurts your team too!) it downs you. Tinkerers have their place but it's such a fucking hassle not getting conflicting or pointless passives.Best tinkerer I ever had just spammed gun turrets.
>>735015053>Don't get tech>Be less useful then a collarless
we love tommy refenes here
>>735015161no we don't
>>735015053>Get Turrets>Get Burn Bombs>Get Emp>Is this it, finally a good Tinkerer run>The Turrets just shoot each other energizing each other and fucking kill 2 cats and themselves
>>735015053Because you need either:>Tech>Mech>Explosion immunity for the suicide skillsIf you don't get either of those, which is extremely easy, you have a cat that is worse than collarless
Does the Black Shard wear down like other items or can I take as many runs as I need to absorb 1hp units? Do corpses count?
>>735015161saaar buy super meat boy 3d on epic game store saaar very good very nice
>>735015316It does not wear downThe damage goes up by 1 for each kill Corpses do not count
>>735011310Gambit does not deserve all this bullying
>>735015416Thank you very much, anon.
>>735015423i am going to bully him (sexually)
>Ninny Stick "rerolls other equipped items at the end of each battle">give one of my cats an amoeba parasite so that I can reroll it into something not shite>it doesn't reroll cool, thanks Edmund
Fellow cat enthusiasts, I lost multiple quest items, notably the bubble helm.Are they gone forever? Did Steakmund fuck me?
Just got the absolute worst druid of all time>reroll tail so I'm rerolling whenever I need>no mouth so I can't do shit, I have fist of fate but it literally doesn't work since I can't sing at all>get the passive for free turns when transforming>even rerolling literally every level the only transformation I ever saw was form of the tree which I didn't take>see supercrow ability, the only thing that could make this druid slig>nah I'll reroll>just get a stat upThe only solace is I got brown belt so he was stoking several backflips and could not be hit so he was useful bait+the crow is literally always useful
>>735015912Far as I know the only quest item that doesn't eventually repeat is the persuasion device.
I don’t know what it is, but there’s something about fighting Hitler in a video game that will always be funny to me. Whether it’s Wolfenstein, that Sniper Elite game that had him, or this.Him killing himself was a nice tough
>>735015912Everything except the Persuasion Device eventually repeats. They don't have any permanent unlocks associated with them so don't feel bad.
>>735016072I'm saving the persuasion device for a rainy day in my item storage, what do I use it on? Hitler?
>>735015940Why the fuck did you make a cat with no mouth a Druid
>>735016156That's ableism
>>735011706
>>735016153Mega-mutant. Or Tremblo since it can eat the man in the moon and generally just spams stuns.
>start a run with Druid>don’t realise he has a mutation that gives his basic attack water>try to heal teammates/summons but end up slowing them the fuck downGrim
>>735014707>restartingWh..why would you do that?If its that bad just pipe all your cats and PRETEND you restarted and go through act 1 againThere is no time limit in this game, you are only dragging everything out even more by restartingDon't even try to compare yourself with the autists that have 200+ hours clocked, just slow it down and go at your own pace
>>735016260What's she saying /mewgenics/?
>>735013301The first time she came the radio guy mentioned she had fire and thunder so I thought it would be a fight where if you don't water stuff you'd be fucked by fire but if you do water stuff you'd get electrocuted to hell and back.Then I found out the electric stuff was a lie.
WHERE'S THAT SMELL COMING FROM?
I feel like people obsess over perfect 7 kittens when the only stat that you should prioritize being a natural 7 is Speed and the only stat you should make sure never falls below 5 is Constitution. Everything other than that can be either ignored with the right class or shored up via mutationmaxxing.
>>735016280
and there's no immunity dog in this universe, so you're fucked if you don't reply
oh noooo not on top of me
Isn't it straight up shit game design when every boss and mechanic can be trivialized by just having high enough damage numbers? And it is very rare for you to have a balanced party so the design will never flow in a way you think it should. I had this same problem with like every ARPG where there's supposedly some mechanics but every player just aims to become so powerful they ignore 99% of them and the player never gets to interact with the game.
>>735016035>>735016072Amazing, I think I lost that one in the dumbest way imaginable: tried to charm one of my own cats in the Dybbuk fight after it got possessed.It didn't work.
>>735016460Finnish people are fucked in the head yeah
>>735016548If you like a game, you sit down and play it. I've seen lot of anons in these threads posting how they try to minimize the time they play and that's totally wrong way to go. Games are meant to be played, not avoided.
>>735016460oi vittu
>>735016609my man I cannot sit down and play the same game for 12 hours a daythat takes a special kind of enabled autism
>>73501660910 hours every day to throw dice and look the line go up is peak enjoyment alright bro.
>>735016156I forgorThat's was the first mistake
>>735016460Fug :DDDD
>>735016479can i reply to call you a double faggot and still get guillotina to lie on me
>>735016460Is this you? https://youtu.be/pc8WFYhkatA
>>735012502
How many hours is required before breeding becomes a means to break the game with unbeatable teamsI've just been progressing with average cats with a few 6's and 7's in stats and nothing really noteworthyNot really struggling per se, but every adventure feels like a clencherJust finished my first trip through ice age which was somehow easier than the lab
>>735016995however msny hours it takes to roll into OP mutations with shimmer
>>735016995I have completed the story with 7-6-5 base stat cats. I imagine you want straight 7s for harder difficulties
>RNGslop
>>735017139Hello, ritual poster
>>735017082I have literally never gotten the shimmer event once>>735017106thats coolI'm more talking about everyone posting these super specialized builds with a plethora of different abilities and like 8 mutations that steamroll anythingI just don't see how its possible without investing an assload of hours in getting enough rooms, furniture, and endlessly running cats through adventures to get the specific 1 out of 75 skills you want for a single classjust seems...overwhelmingly tedious
>>735016310
>>735017214I had one "Get in the hole" mutation fest that yielded lot of mutations for the offsprings. Also I got Cleric with Sharing is Caring with Skill Share+ making its offsrping automatically inherit Sharing Is Caring. Otherwise my mutations have builded up over time as I had some mutation values in every room where I breed. I have 2 non-breed rooms, the 3 remaining rooms are for breeding and I cycle the offsprings to other rooms so that they won't end up having sex with their parents
>>735017345>has 5 roomsyeah thats a lot of fucking grindI can't dedicate my life to a single game like thatHope I don't burn out too soon with this one
>>735017426Sit down and play. If you have time to post, you have time to play.
>>735017468I get fatigued after a single full adventure and then house managementCrimson Desert is just around the corner and I'm behind on my anime shows too
>>735016969Oh shit paw breaker works with thick skull I can farm retardation for think too hard
>>735017214>I have literally never gotten the shimmer event onceI have never NOT gotten it. Meanwhile I've never gotten rare furniture from bunker after a dozen runs.
>>735017214Your fuck room, that should be positive in everything, put your veterans in there with good skills alongside any 7 you find/makeGet a good number of cats in there so there is a lot of kittens being madeAbout 20% will be decent, sling the rest or throw them in the fight pitForce more Crater runs if you really want a lot of mutations spreadingNaturally over a few weeks you will have some nice specialists
So are you actually supposed to only keep the godtier items to make sets for specific challenges and just send out cats naked most of the time or whatI hate this item breakage shitI guess I fucked up by using the class items before getting the full setsDo they ever show up again?
I beat Zartana first try since I had a fighter with avenger and a necromancer I sacrificed all the zombies and that necromancer to kill that fucker by the second round
>>735017807Yes, items show up again. Unlocking them means they are added to item pool. Unlocking them first time simply lets you have them for you to test them out to know them better and understand when you get them again, for what to save them.Also there's NPC called Butch who you can donate your cats to. He makes your item storage bigger when you level him up by donating cats to him.
>finish the game>don't feel like starting new runsHow do I get over this feeling?I never got this when I beat Isaac but managing the house and breeding is just so tiresome. I just wanna do fun runs
The only time I have ever seen tinkerer be useful is when I got the "you always craft bombs below tech 2" passive next to +1 tech every turn passive. The game is dogshit at explaining it, but having tech 1 causes you to craft the actually good bomb and not the shitty 5 damage one.
>>735017807learn to let go anonlet go of your catslet go of your itemsfree yourself from the material burdens of the world
>>735011352man on the moon is so goddamn easy he's literally a free winthe enemies in the zone before him are scarier
>>735012059that's c1000
>>735014740>Personally I don't know how anyone can stand it.i like my runs to take 30 minutes not 3 hours
>>735016310"How do you like your steak?" as my fighter with the Loner she charmed on a previous run shoots my entire team dead for 999 damage before I can even take a turn.
>>735012059Can't relate. I went in with two tank cats. One of them had the cape on and was permanently flying. I don't know how much damage or pushback her quake does but I was fully immune and he stuck to her like glue.
>desert with practice dummies>thief mid boss>all he does is attack the dummy and chip my squishies to deathAAAAAAAHHHHHH
>>735018113i doubt it saves more than 15 minutes overall, spazz
>>735018282>i doubt it saves more than 15 minutes overall,4x speed runs are literally 4 times faster than 1x speed runsthat's literally how time works you retard
>>735018371it's a turn based game, time works as fast as your brain, are you thinking about your moves 4x times faster?
>>735018419Yes.
>>735013229I only realized that when the radio guy said something along the lines "We don't endorse the use of psychedelics" before playing the song. Kino.
There's nothing wrong with a boss being easy.
>>735018525Just like yo mama.
Clots are the worst enemy mechanic in the game.
Do mystery meat cats breed with anyone
>>735018625i'd rather deal with an entire room full of stem cats and clots with 2x hp than deal with >amoebas>maelestes>literally basically every single faggot enemy in the lab that gives you parasites, injuries or disorders
There is nothing wrong with the random events that happen without player input.
>>735018732The ?-mark gendered cats? They are the way to make gay and lesbian cats reproduce because gay/lesbian cats see ?-mark cats as desirable. ?-mark cats are great because anyone can reproduce with them
>>735016684>>735016684Are you even having fun with Mewgenics anymore? Sounds a lot like you're forcing yourself to play at this point with how cynical your outlook is.
>>735018525I'm so glad king Unga was after I almost wiped my entire team fighting the mid boss because somehow my psychic got madness inflicted after pulling a ravenCool tooltips edmund
>>735018797They are literally futa cats
>>735018759>start a run>the first event is Tin Can of Rare Candies for every cat to get a level up>realize the game is saying I'm doing so bad that they give me free level up for the whole team>abandon runTake that, game.
>>735018732Futa cats will do it or take it from anyone yes
>>735018810I like the combat when it's not actively fucking you over with obscure mechanicsI like cats
>>735018797>i've just been tossing my rainbow homosexuals to tink even if they have great stuffyou're telling me those fruity little fuckers could have been breeding my ? cats ???goddamn it
>>735018942Is it really worth it though?I'm going for zero fag flags in my horde
>>735018810>you're forcing yourself to playAnon he specifically said he wasn't playing more than he felt like
>>735018883Tyler confirmed that's not how the dynamic difficulty works though
>>735016995Not sure if I just got lucky but I got cats with mostly 7s (6s in luck and int) like 40 hours in, in act 2. But I only started getting great mutations in the late game.
>>735018942Yes. You want ? mark cats. There is no situation where you would go "Oh no, my cat is futa!" instead it's always "Oh yes, my cat is futa!"
>>735019001I don't subscribe to Tyler and his or hers lies
>>735018625The real menace is Kinetic Spikes I believe the negatives of having it far outweighs the benefits
someone help me out, what stat does magic use for damage? is it it's own thing or what?
>>735019159The regular mage basic attack uses range but requires line of sight. The upgraded basic attack becomes Magic Missile with infinite range and no line of sight needed and scales with Intelligence
>>735019159yeah magic is its own thing and it's harder to buffyou have stuff like corrupt giving you magic damage in exchange for an injurythere's throbbing kings bloody razor for self damage for magic damage ect
>>735019159It doesn't. However, Mage's attack is both physical and magical so it benefits from dexterity.
>>735019268Does that mean using bloody razor on mage will pump it 4+ damage
>>735011310Think they thought the sun gimmick would be too oppressive so they undertuned the final bosses of the desert. Both of them do feel pretty weak and exploitable compared to everyone else in the game, so I think it is on purpose.>>735012560It's expensive enough that it can be a permanent cut in your payout if you aren't diligent in getting cash. I do find it more worth it than not, but are essentially putting more investment in a singular cat than normal. Which with how chaotic the game is, can leave you high-and-dry on occasion.
>>735019159literally no one knows to this day
>>735019439>Think they thought the sun gimmick would be too oppressive so they undertuned the final bosses of the desert. Both of them do feel pretty weak and exploitable compared to everyone else in the game, so I think it is on purpose.You also have to remember that if you go the crater route you're facing another miniboss right after them.I think their difficulty is just right all things considered.>>735019408It takes 2 dex to give it +1 damage, same as the other dex classes.
>>735019751I mean flat damage amplifiersBecause it pulls from both physical and magic damage does it give 4 damage, I haven't considered using it on Mage
Is there some good ways to combo blood magic? Is there a trinket or something that removes the once a turn restriction?
So I want to play this game but at the same time I know it will be 3+ hours doing a run + prep and all that, and then my day is already over. So I think I'm just not gonna.
>>735020130If you have time to post about the game, you have time to play the game. You can also save and exit during a run. Save Scumming measures are only taken when leaving midway battle
>>735018753>amoebasHonestly, it's only the spewers that make these miserable to play against.
>>735020214idk. Takes me few secs to post and there's no longer term commitment.
>>735016153only use it if you have a tinkerer/someone with a confirmed repair or blacksmithif you repair it in the run, then bringing it back will only make it "worn" again, but it won't get destroyed
monk with echo active (teleport to most recently targeted tile, psychic skill) is pretty nice to keep melee combos going
Death Metal is such a retarded ability to give to a class that also has a passive that can cut it's cost in half. Druid feels like it's several archetypes shoved together (form change+bard+familiar control) that would be individually strong on their own but end up being absurd on one class.
>>735020105>Is there a trinket or something that removes the once a turn restriction?
>>735020130>3+ hours doing a runturn the speed to 4x in the settings
For Johnny, is just trying to keep the cultists off him as much as possible a misplay? I got swarmed by them and near the end when it was just one cat left and he was constantly blasting hte cultists away after being washed it seemed like it would be better to eat a spell or two.
Is Recycle for tinkerer bugged because I trash the weapons but don't see the Tech stat upgrade and I just keep getting basic gear
>>735020398also I have butcher trample on this monk so I can in fact echo ontop of enemy unitsI can turn a ranged attack into a melee combo
>>735020414Ah thanksI guess you can do a lot but the 50% hampers it a bit.
>>735020489Nah you are just supposed to kill the cultists as soon as they come out while chipping away at johnny
>>735014504Cleric is decent early-game but falls off massively once you have decently statted cats.Even most of your useful niches are only solving problems they themselves created. Would healing be needed if you had more damage? A comp that clears encounters round 1 is effectively getting a free team-wide heal every round, and a more reasonable 2-round clear is still a massive free heal every other round.And putting speedup abilities on a class with negative speed is just disastrous. You're either wasting your fastest cat/speed up items to let them go first, or even worse you're wasting every other cat's first turn so they can stick around and be buffed before heading out.Cleanse is the only really standout support ability, it opens up so many powerful options and synergies for other cats if debuffs can be cleared, but you don't get cleanse reliably enough for the class to be good.Druid is genuinely great though. Sure, they can support which is a nice bonus, but unlike cleric they will always fully hold their own in regular combat whether through combat forms or summons or whatever as well.
>>735020489Johnny mind controls only a once around and his final turn of the round is pushing units adjancent to it back so having Cultist on him at the end of the round is a non-issue. I dont have trouble with Johnny because if I'm going to Core I ususlly have Hose or the water spell with knock
>>735020489you kill them on sight because johnny has a charm attack and charm is the most disastrous debuff your cats can get
are 3 cat or 4 cat runs easier?
>>735020413according to the wiki thats exactly what the druid is
>>735020894Four. The difference in levels is negligible and you're missing out on five items slots.
>>7350208943 cat runs are better the better your cats are4 cat runs are good to start off
>>735020489Either kill them as they come or use a skill that forces enemies to move.Something like goad basically guarantees Johnny will be able to do nothing but autistically screech
>>7350208944 cats. 3 cats get you higher level cats and chance to get better repkacements fir your old abilities or upgrade them or get an extra stat up. But having 4 viable units is better than having 3 viable+ units
i only have up to tinkerer unlocked, what is the best team composition if i want to run a thief? i can't figure out how to make them work. are they a supporty type like cleric and druid or can they carry like a fighter or ranger?
Enough about BAD BOSSES. Which one's your FAVORITE BOSS?
>>735020932Oh.Well, I wonder why Druid is literally just a mash of three classes but is undisputedly a Top 3 class in the game whereas Tinkerer and Mage have several archetype paths that feel like they don't gel together at all and suffer for it.
Once again I have a familiar-based party member (Negromancer leechmaxxing).Once again my hunter gets blood frenzy.Once again a decent run is turned into a complete slog thanks to one unavoidable event.Wow thanks Steamkmutt McMingemuncher.
>>735021078I like Bunga, because he ironically makes you have to think ahead
Guilhotina II just wiped my entire team, I have no more high level cats to breed
>>7350208943 "feels" easier but if you're playing the breeding game, 4 is obviously superior
>>7350208943 cats + a druid with a neverstone
>>7350208944 with 2 neverstones
>>735021078man in the moon
>>735021358You dont need to breed for Guilotinas. I cleared them and Act 2 house bosses with cats who went to adventures
>>735012071I have 182 hours played, and I have never seen any of the things you mention. Man, what a game.
>>735021076You play them as a big damage critter that can move around behind enemies easily while not tradingTheir access to shield penetration is their greatest assetYou don't really need a comp for them, just hope you don't roll shitty skills/passives
>>735021727200 hours and I think I got offered fists of fate and repair each once, have never seen super luck
>>735021579>>735021582so, help me out here, i've been wondering what the fuck to do with the neverstone. you guys are saying to use it to make sure your other cats level up more, right? do you do anything with the little level 1 cats in fights or do they just sit in the back?
>>735021823the neverstone druid is good for this because his crow is still quite useful thanks to being able to push things aroundbut yeah they stay out of the fight and do basically nothingmaybe let him level up once to get a skill and he can do something potentially more helpful but after that back to the stone
>>735020894solo cat with blood frenzy and summon squirrelstrust the plan
>>735012785That's nice and all, but a good hunter can clear this fight in one turn with a couple of castings of scattershot.
>>735013197Thank you. I will take this knowledge and use it irresponsibly.
>>735021642This guy is mentally ill
>>735022040>chill fight>excellent track what's not to love
>>735021823There are some items that have downsides, like the confusion hat that gives all enemies confusion but also the wearerTransmitter items that minus a stat to give it to buff all of your partyGet a shitty passive that's gay as fuck to play with like overload or escape sequence, slap the ever stone on it, give it all the self harm items and make it stand in the naughty corner
>>735022040I also like Man In The Moon. I like gimmick bosses. Dybukk isn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be.
>>735011951>>735012009>Risking your best breeding catsWhat the fuck are you guys doing?
>>735022262>attic fight clubbwo your stim maxxing...
>>735022325I don't have enough good stim furniture to do anything with the attic. I'm unlucky as fuck, I've done like a hundred bunker runs and only gotten two rare boxes. I dump cats on Baby Jack like it's my job, and I've only ever seen one rare furniture piece in his shop.
He did it bros...
leave water tiles on basic attack is going to make this easy but tedious
>>735022101better than that bitchass spider that's for sure
>>735022428Nice.
>>735022428congrats!
I'm a chumbucket niggy
>>735022087The cock and ball torture that is the gimmick of the fightAlso the moon as an area is also cock and ball torture
>>735023129>cock and ball torture>stand in the middle>attack a hand to turn it around>attack it again to slap moon manit's FREE
The Future completely stopped my progress like a brick wall. Every other zone I'd lose maybe once, figure out the boss, then progress.
>>735023129You can go into Moon Man's mouth and let the at get inhaled by Moon Man. The cat takes 5-6 damage per Moon man turn in the mouth but it gets a special 10 mana cost command to make the hands launch at the face. So if you have high HP cat, just go into the mouth.
>>735014872>fuck i lost some runs and my cats are shit time to waste time reunlocking my areas and upgradesWhat the fuck is wrong with you? Why am I watching multiple anons go through this? My save hit that low once before, even considered a reset myself, but I knew that wouldn't fix shit so I just trucked on and now all my cats so far are up to 3-4 7s. You can rebound in less time than it takes to redo literally fucking everything. Like no really, nothing changes that you get one stray a day, and that alone makes resetting fucking pointless. Like fuck you're throwing away furniture when you reset. Come on.You're just mad dog, it's okay. Either that or this is bait, in which case um big gay.
>>735023286the trick is to bring a cat with mark or shield piercing
>>735023129For me, it's the Megasaucers that charge an instant kill beam midway through the fight that half of your cat's can't react to because their turns have already passed.Extremely retarded.
>>735023351No, the trick is simply going into the mouth
>>735023437you replied to the wrong person
>>735023389just fucking kill them before they get a turn???
>>735021642I get it. It’s a gimmick fight that fees fairly fair and having a good setup where you can slap him for 80 damage with low cost skill feels great.
>>735023495It has 6 shields, 20 armor, surrounded completely by smaller saucers and is on the complete opposite side of the map, not always easy to do.
>>735023629>6 shields, 20 armor>>735023351shield piercing ignores those blue shields too btw
>>735023339It's so easy, though. Build up your breeding, then toss everything that doesn't improve your gene pool into the adventure room or the fight club, depending on quality.From the sound of things, I bet my lamest rejects are better than half the anons' adventure teams.
>>735022428my man
Do you guys have any favourite stand-by combos? I have an entire lineage of cats with legs that make their basic attacks inflict Soul Link. I like to turn them into druids and use their massive area effects to soul link the entire enemy team right off the bat.
fucking time machine mutated my soul link feet away
>>735023763For me it's Summon Apprentice for when I have a gun sitting in my inventory and I want to play on easy mode
>>735023763I bred a lineage of cats with gamble(33% chance to miss always crit) and give them the never miss items
>>735023763Immortal and Leather Jacket cats
>>735011951Your furniture will make this process much faster than you think. You can be good in just a couple of runs.
>>735021076If you don't have a movement/protection skill(stealth doesn't count), pick one(I don't think any of them are bad except the coin ones with 0 synergy, experiment with the bad sounding ones)Then grab the next skill/passive that will increase your damage, run behind enemies, backstab them and use movement skills to move away/protect yourself.
what's with people talking about chewing steak?
So, will this work?Beard doubles ruffle, and ruffle makes beard (6x double the effect) x12So the knockback goes to 120, 120 damage on contact?
>>735024628During Isaac, Edmund had some obscure stuff hidden in the game he expected people to slowly notice and talk with each other and piece the clues in together to find the unlock. Dataminers did what dataminers do and data mined the solution.Once of Edmund's associates berated people for spoiling the fun and call it like eating a 100 bucks steak in one bite
>>735024718in theory, yes
>>735024628Eddie fucked a steak in his edgy newgrounds days
>swap highest and lowest stat mutation got on my necro through the time machine>on my way to the infinite>have 5 str, 5 spd, 14 conguess what happens at the final boss
>>735024860>minor grammar mistake
>use surf as mage>johnny is permanently able to cast spells now cause hes wetThat’s fair
as someone who leaves their games running, I hate when RPGs record your time because it's never accurate and makes me feel like a basement dweller
>>735025021Why do you think they're called grammar nazis.
My God druid is overpowered as fuck, first run with one, my entire team, squirrels, spiderlings and leeches included, keep getting buffed non-stop.Should have went for the Moon, but decided to get the butcher and druid cheevos.
>>735025053Same. Last week I left the game idle in the background while cooking just to listen to the music. I probably have at least ten fake hours of playtime.
>>735025026?No he cant. He needs Cultists washing him
>>735025053Cute.t. >>735016460
Every Creator run I've done has ended up with me brute-force unga-bungaing the third phase so I still barely know the mecahnics.>still less than 1% of people have killed himInsane honestly. Only a miniscule amount of the playerbase have actually started Act 3 even though we're now like a month in.
>>735023763Rubber Arrows on anything with projectiles. I have a skill share+ cat with it.
>>735016460Holy shit over four thousand months played?
>>735025432Isnt clearing Alley 75% of players? People buy games without actually playing it
>Get fucked by C-1000 first time he comes around>prep by getting this STUD prepared>Entire fight is it getting in range, getting stunned by multiplied Revolver+Heavy Shot+Basic Attack, and then me teleporting to safety as my Monk, Druid, and Psychic buttfuck it from a safe distanceThis guy's getting put into the retirement room and getting his own personal harem though he already kinda had one anyways given this tail mutation is broken as fuck
>>735025053When you do fights at anything above 1 speed it's actually logging even more time, so the problem is even worse.
>>735023763Wolf Form druids
I NEED MORE STEAK
>>735025572my anti c1000 strat was a random stray that turned up with bloodzerk lmao>copied it>used bloodzerk>lmao 1 hp>walked into lava and fucking died
>>735025785I miss seeing Stacy react alongside Dr. Beanies when you talked to him before Act III :(
>>735022463boy am I glad that he's frozen in there
>bounty hunter weather>bounty on my cat>the cat gets downed>the bounty hunter steals my cat and runs awaykekshould have expected this
>>735025865I hate it when games timelock comfort characters like that
>>735022101Dybbuk fucking sucks because it's literally the only boss in the game that requires meticulous planning outside of Hard Mode+ Creator, who makes you fight copies of your cats WITH their items and potentially elite buffs on top of them too.You actively have to gimp yourself otherwise you risk getting devoured by your own rapebeast because of an unlucky crit or something.The forced down is also irritating; potentially catastrophic if it's rot weather.I basically never go through the Boneyard anymore unless I need it for a specific sidequest or clear mark.If the possessed cat didn't get full mana immediately it'd be much more tolerable.
>>735011310>random event>oopsie woopsie your cat got blood frenzy! :(>fuck I guess I'll try to not kill anything with my fucking tank>crater>plant thing pushes another plant into my cat with thorns>rampage starts>kills everything>8 turns in a row>last enemy>goes for my cats and kills them and then itselfI-I should chew slower...
>>735026273>rot weatherI thought this would be the case as well, but infested won't explode your cats when Dybukk is excised.
>>735026273>literally the only boss in the game that requires meticulous>bring an aoe skill>"Meticulous planning"
This game has a hasbin hotel lite fanbase
>Beanies wants me to take Bubble Boy to the RiftThis shit is going STRAIGHT into the trash, fuck you
>>735026273>meticulous planninglol retard, just force him into a corner and place two cats next to himed really needs to add a daily challenge so we can laugh at dunning kruger retards making fools of themselves
>>735026403I like how calling things a Hazbin Hotel like is an insult.
>>735011310is this game worth the pricetag or should i wait for a sale?it seems fun, but 30$ for it is a bit too much in my opinion
Act III is making my physically ill. It's so cancerous.
>>735026732yes
If Resummon Crow is used by a non-Druid, does it just spawn in a fresh crow regasrdless?
>>735026372>can't give any cat an insane simple combo otherwise it has to spend the whole fight with its thumb up its ass in case it accidentaly instagibs dybbuk, gets possessed, and then fucks up the rest of your team>can't go too heavy on the DoT otherwise you're rolling the dice when he dies because of the random possession target>only option is to chip it down with lukewarm aoe and/or bodyblockingAgain, outside of Hard Creator (quite literally the final boss in the game), no boss forces you to plan like this ahead of time.
>>735026732just pirate it zoomer sama and copy your save over when the dlc releases and you get FOMO again
>>735026732it's a good value but the devs don't care if you pirate it
Edmund has the humour of a 10 year old child from the early 2000s I haven’t laughed once. It honestly stops this game from being a 10/10
>>735026931>Edmund has the humour of a 10 year old child from the early 2000sAnd that's a good thing.
>>735025432they're shit mechanics, i had to learn them the hard waybasically you NEED mobility (or a way to move units like the butcher's hook)also his final attack is trivialized by multiple summons like squirrels because it's line of sight
>>735026931
>>735026812If you have a non-druid cast it you do get a new crow. The game only checks if the casting cat owns at least one living druid crow, so not having one at all counts.
>>735026812I would imagine. I haven't tried myself but I've seen Arthur do it.
>>735026931Juvenile humor can be really funny, but Edmund doesn't really do it in a way that's funny.
>>735026813can't you just down one of your weak cats at the start of the fight?
>>735026931I do admire Edmund a lot creatively and artistically, etc. but I think I only laughed at this game's dialogue one or two times. A lot of it just feels like a stream of consciousness ramble (which apparently is how the game's dialogue was written). He's a lot better at visual humor than writing>"One star. Creator is a pedo. Would not recommend."Probably the best joke in the game.
>>735026931I thought it was just meant to be nostalgic of that Newgrounds era humor but I know nothing of the guy so maybe that's being overgenerous. I'm not a huge fan but not bothered either. Though I was a little thrown off by Throbbing King's intro. That was strangely intense for a fight that didn't seem so hard.
>>735027134>>735027150Oh shit that rocks, this is broken as hell ability to pass down then.
>>735026931Tracy is the only consistently funny character in the game for me, the rest are either mild chuckle worthy at absolute best or don't really make me react at all
>>735023316No I know that, the fight still sucks because if you don't have enough movement you can't even get to the mouth
You have to donate a total of 751 cripples to Baby Jack in order for any given furninture he stocks to have a 50% chance of being the rare variant.
>>735026302random events that go just "fuck you" are ass, I wouldn't mind if it was like temporary shit like when you get poisoned or bleed but blood frenzy is retarded
UhhhBros how the fuck do you beat Unga? I like how this boss just invalidates all melee attackers, very coolGuess I have to play the exact way the game wants me to play, love that
>>735027547Use monk brother
>>735027547backstabs
>>735026732speaking as one of your kind it is easily worth $30
>>735027547You may not believe it but the game has more skills than just the "deal damage" ones.Some might even help in this situation.
events are bullshit and unfuni'm starting to come around to that conclusion. all my runs, i've tried to put it from me, saying "now now, be reasonable, you just got unlucky; you haven't tried every other option yet". and i resumed the struggle.i need to finish every area with every class on hard+ difficulties. and the cats must not die before killing the area's boss.so it doesn't matter if i spent literal hours to try to finish a run; the game might as well just roll the infestation weather event at he start of the area, the brain-eating amoeba and necrosis on another, or some other bullshit combination.sure, on some i had another choice, so i could've played it safe. but other events you can't even do that. got a low luck cat? too bad, all of the options on this here event are based on luck, chew that steak harderso after 2 hours to get to The End, somehow my necro managed to win the fight against the mother, with literally every single tile filled with either hostile adds from the infestation event (which spawn every time you kill one of the mother's limbs), or the mother herself. i had literally 100 adds run away, a miracle.but guess what? since only one cat survived the fight, i only finished the act with that cat's class. it doesn't matter that i managed to get up to here with all the other cats; if they died in the literal last fight, they just didn't win.too bad, buckaroo! guess you just gotta run it from the ground up to get there with those same classes, and hope they don't die in the final fight. and don't you dare savescum to try to not lose hours of your life, or else steven will call you a cheater, even when the game crashes.and that's that. run's gone: the cats, the items, my time, they're gone. and there's nothing i could do about it. it was among the felines, real furball shit. the game even makes fun of you with that organ grinderi'm tired. i don't care anymore. i love this game but i don't care anymore. fuck this. i'm done.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>735027547get him down to half hp on the thronehe only spawns and becomes active once you either kill 2 champions or get him down to half hpso basically kill one champion, get bunga to 150 hp to wake him up and then just STAY BEHIND HIMyou can use various crowd control skills to stop him moving around too much but just always stay behind himdealing 150 hp in backstabs is fucking trivial i used to be scared of him but he's kind of a chump honestly
>>735027724Oh yeah, both are the homo classes
>>735026302i had a bloodfreenzy hunter with heavy shot and the abilty that gives 5 (later full) mana for every kill, it was extremely fun just killing everything immediatly first turn and i kept getting tons of rare items, then i foolishly picked the "spawn a flea for every kill ability" to make things worse i went to dybbuk which kept evading but because of a single ghost beeing present i got softlocked in a loop of kiling every flea in range and respawning them as soon as one of my infinite turns end so i got to keep nothing
>she befriended bugs>because they gave her hugs
>>735027708I agree that some events are bullshit, but if your cats die then it's only natural that you don't get the completion mark for them.
Cutting my cat population in half and falling below the replacement level is finally starting to pay off.
>>735027954DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT BUTCHER
>>735028058>What if you could change your mind, Hitler?
DOWN ON YOUR KNEES
>>735028040no no, i get that it makes sense. i'm just frustrated with the amount of time wasted because of some bullshit. if the runs didn't take as long i wouldn't be salty at allbut losing all the progress i had made, and worse, all of my time, because of some unavoidable bullshit, and then to get laughed at and get at most one item in return ? that's not fun. it makes me not want to play the game anymore.
>>735028058Egyptians worshipped cats as gods so
any mod to replace every cat-related thing in this game by dogs?
>>735027602Does fist of fate trigger counterattacks? Works for dybbuk but I'm not ballsy enough to try it with bunga>>735027640>>735027701>>735027912Thanks guys I got it
>>735025432>Rebirth, defeat mom = 69.2%>Clear Junkyard, 66.9%, Clear Boneyard = 61.9%>Rebirth, Defeat Mom's heart 5 times = 48.9%, Defeat 11 times = 43.4%>Clear boneyard + Caves = 47.7%, Desert completion =38.5%>Rebirth, Defeat Isaac 5 times = 37.8%, Defeat 10 times = 32.2%>Rebirth, defeat ??? and the lamb = 34.5%>Clear Crater = 25.1%, Clear Bunker = 26.9%, Clear Core + Moon = 15.6%I think the Act 1 completion rates are to be expected. But the usual ~30% that sticks it to the end (but doesn't go for 100%) is stuck in Act 2. Rebirth's !Platinum God! is at 9.2% (Collect all non-DLC items in the game, and unlock all of the secrets and endings). Fixing the The Lab's time machine is at 7.1%.
>>735028101>It's about ten minutes ago.>Guy tried to shoot my cat.>Yes. He's a long-legged, pissed off mecha Aryan.
>>735028470just breed a dog into your genepool
>>7350282581x animations look so weird now..
I really want to play this game again but then I think about the cat breeding part and I can't bring myself to open it. I hate it that much.
>>735014707its funny how wrong these types of posts are every single time.
>>735028470MEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWDS
>necromancer with "+1 damage when allies are hit" and Pestilence (damage everyone)>after it casts my tank with Bouncer walks over to him and punches him into the walldick, now i have to separate these two constantly
>>735028095if you have less than 50 cats in your house at any given time you didn't beat the game
i beat act 2 on hard
>>735028719holy and wholly sexneeds to be fatter
>the cat you needed with the ability you need got blood frenzy!what the absolute FUCKsecond fucking run I have to kill one of my cats.
sex
we LOVE zaratana in this house
Every other paragraph on tvtropes page for this game is about how it's """heavily implied""" that Dr. Beanies is actually Magdalene's father and for the life of me, I have no idea where they even got that from.
>>735028848Crazy that edmund can make like two dozen iconic, lovable characters just from one game
>>735028719The ass was fat
>>735028095>6 luckanother kitten for Tink's collection
I've been playing Act 1 for about 50 hours now, and when I unlocked the Throbbing Domain, the guy who took my name talks about the place, and mentions the Throbbing King used to be called the Buried King. Like the Buried King in the song Break HIs Chains.Am I late to this realization? I haven't seen people point that out.
>>735028864>tvtropespost tits
>>735028848/v/ is a Pyrophina board
mashmallow
What do you think, breed it or feed it (to the pipes)?
>>735029049has anyone drawn her roasted over a fire yet?
>>735029081it's shit
>>735029081Does that work with necro leech?
>>735029081I would, if only to try to retain that leg mutation
>>735028058Easy sweep (he has Rubber Arrows and Scatter Shot)
>>735029049marshmllow
>>735029208noit replaces the starting attackbut anything that replaces your attack (like druid henshins) gets to keep the extra attacks without the damage debuff
>>735029298based based based
>>735021019Don't never buy no catnip from the gas station
ATANGLEDMESSINSIDEYOURHEADACRUSHINGSENSEOFLOOMINGDREADBRAINISFULLOFDUSTANDBATSITSNOUSELIKEHEARDINGCATS
>>735026543Just wear leather jacket?
>>735026273Meticulous planning is a stretch, there is only one thing that makes Dybukk a retarded boss compared to the rest of the bosses in the game>Dybbuk will possess the cat with the least HP in the party (including downed cats) if the finishing blow was from a familiar, tile hazard, or damage over time effect.Nothing in the game frustrated me more than learning this the hard way. Glitch tiles, antenna quests, spewer, raw injury/disorder/mutation attacks, reflects, and turn start instakills are nowhere near as frustrating as dybukk possessing a random cat and not understanding why. This also railroads strategy if you bring a bulky summoner
>>735029030There is more to this. I know it. I need it.
>>735029081Niggerlips mutation isnt that good, wonder if theres any hidden tech with it
>>735030093ToT
>Finally get two cats with six 7s and one 6>Their names are Tita and PipaAlthough "cats" is starting to become a stretch.
>Take a scythe to dybbuk>He kills himselfHeh heh
Edmund tried implementing it so that items in your storage would degraded overtime
>>735030126the tech is you spam attack your catch ranger
>>735030126I could see it being good with a poison/bleed setup, but not much else. Just one item on its own guarantees a three stack, toss in something that adds 2 extra poison every time a poison is stacked and you have 9 poison.
WHERE'S THAT FUCKING SMELL COMING FROM
>>735029494I need to cum all over Tina's tummy.
i'm having trouble so far, none of my cats are that strong and i've wiped like 3 or 4 times almost in a row and those cats took basically all my items down with them. i've unlocked act 2 but i can barely do anything right now, do i just need to do a bunch of runs through the alley to build up items again, or what do i do? ignore all the inbred idiots, i let it get out of hand a bit
>get three random unavoidable events that give cats a stat down>get event that requires good stats to clear>do it>reward: a stray so shitty it was a waste of space in the boss fight that was after it and got insta-piped after going back home
>>735030167I'm hoping this works for C-1000.
>>735025572>this tail mutation is broken as fuckWell, what does it do?
>>735028945It's a nod to the development history. Originally we had the Buried King, who was the boss of the Caves area. Break His Chains was the Caves song.Throbbing King (an SMT reference to the green penis monster) and Throbbing Domain came later.
>>735030391Do you have any 6 or 7 stat cats? Toss anything with 3s or 4s right now. If you can, build Appeal in your house to attract better strays to improve your bloodlines.Otherwise, I like to keep my cats to about 10-14 early on and build up
>>735030391Do Act 1 runs. I take it you haven't fought Guillotina yet? She comes 3 times and you need total 12 retired cats for the fights (4 cats per fight). Don't do Act 2 routes further than the first 2 (Bunker and Crater) because if you clear Core or Moon, their house bosses take priority over Guillotina and you need to beat Guillotina 3 times to get necessary items to unlock the Act 1's Fourth Area
>>735030684Bonus attack at the beginning of every fight with no downside
>>735030391Also you are way too early thinking about breeding. You need more rooms for that. You get rooms by donating retired cats to Frank. Do notive you can do Alley runs for money and food and to get retired cats faster
Fun fact You don't need to kill the cop bots in the lab, killing all units but cop bots will cause them all to power down, you don't get run away penalties for thisSchutzbots in Das Future need to be destroyed however
>>735030146https://youtu.be/vTOurabBRxY
>>735030098https://files.catbox.moe/m8en1d.png
>>735030562>running party detonator>cat with 9 charisma fails orgy event>gets head parasite that saps int until it hits zero (where it auto downs the cat)Took him behind the shed in the next fight. He was literally a ticking time bomb.
Are the item returns in Act 1 hard mode worth doing a full skwad with no/shit equipment for?I need more synergy shit.
>>735030945i know i shouldn't...but
>almost got my ass kicked by Hard Guillotina 3Forgot that elite Guillotina also means elite Mama Maggot + champion maggots and they all took a million turns at the end of the round.That would have been embarrassing.
The fuck I am supposed to do now?
>>735031017I forgot how hard she is and got my level 7 party's ass kicked
>>735031082If you're out of food and cats, I'd say let the bodies build up a little bit, then get 3 or 4 strays and use the bodies as food, then you should at least have a handful of cats to attempt an Act 1 run
>>735031082get some strays?
>damn this sparkle build is OP>bring it to pyrophina vs zaratana fight without a backup plan>sparkle damage splits evenly between them>lose with both of them nearly deadoops
>>735030126It's amazing on tinkerer since it doesn't work porperly and just gives you three crafting/destroying actions per turns instead of the spit.
>>735031082Play the game? You doing runs bring unlocks, loot, food and money and most importantly, retired cats. Frank takes any retired cat and Butch wants retired cats who have ventured furthest
>>735030875Adding to this, aim for high stimulation furniture, donating more cats to baby jack unlocks rare furniture and health furniture, tracy eventually sells a statue that gives 5 stimulation, a full hard path run in the alley gives at least 2 furniture boxes
>>735031227Soul Link would make it really shine
>run into event >cat has terrible stat check>alt f4>equip libra and +2 stat equips>cat has green stat checkit's that easy>buy rare candy>see what cat it's for>alt f4>equip d6 on that cat>buy rare candy again and enjoy the rerollit's that easy
>tfw getting filtered hard by the crater>beat it only once>never got to the moonWhat's the ideal team comp? First time I cheesed it with an overpowered rogue, just tried with tank, butcher, cleric and ranger, but got absolutely wiped.
>>735031323You didn't beat the game
>have like 6 guns and several other red/yellow weapons gathering dust>never ever roll weapon synergy on tinkerer or fighter
The rubber bat will make the moonman's hands charge even if it doesn't hit the eye>>735031342dunno the comp but once the boss gets low try to finish it before the end of the turn, he'll spawn a squadron of 4 B-Probers(If you're playing on hard mode, he'll summon them as elites)
>>735031246i like christmas ice levelsthey're comfy
>>735031342Thief shits on both the crater's rock assholes and moon enemies with shield-penetrating abilities. Hunter's mark skills are good for the same reason, but are more single-target.Both areas make uncontrollable summons really, really annoying.
>This with Anon and Marshmallow
>>735031246you forgot the most important part>ice level (without christmas bells in the music)
what is the best stat in the game and why is it charisma
>>735031741Abilities are good and int does LITERALLY NOTHING until turn 2.
how the fuck do i get super luckevery jester level i get is DOGSHIT
>>735031323>get event that makes all birds angry>my druid's crow one shots a cat before i could act>alt f4 before i do an action with no penalty>equip that cat with relic>survive and rape that crow
>>735031246it should be all of that at once.
>>735027453Pls tell me that you are joking.Baby jack is my lowest one, I've been focusing on Butch + Frank
>>735027708Ya the events really make me just want to quit. I fucked up multiple quests because I'd get some run ending bullshit disorder on top of the already zany quest flavor. It's just frustrating.
>>735031741Charisma is legit the worse stat that some builds are better when its low.
>>735031786>>735031741I've warmed up to CHA, since it lets me do silly plays.However I also want INT since I have the two head mutation
>>735031965i never have and never will use a psychic "max mana" buildi have abilities i want to use and i will use them NOW
>>735027453fair, I have been mostly giving him the cats that got injured in the fight room
>>735031741constitution and agility until a threshold.
>>735031856Spam the alley with rerolls whenever your blank collars have an extra jester
>>735031919>>735027708>events are bullshitt. has never had to deal with getting mana screwed and adapting on the spot
gatos
>>735031980HAIMULU
>>735027708Think positively anon, there are good events too!
>>735031856You have to be luckyNo really it took some guy 30+ runs with 1-2 jesters and equipment setups that gave them NINE rerolls per level.>>735031980>she sees your search history
>>735031965>>735032006While I've never made use of them, I appreciate that low int and low cha effects exist. Perhaps in a future patch, he'll add some abilities for other classes that focus on having one stat be low; that way the meta might not be to just get 7s across the board
>>735032023>>735032108fuck it 4 jester alley runs fishing for luckretirees go to frank4 cats 1 stone
>>735031919>Angry Face + Infestation WeatherThis was the moment my smile and optimism died.>just finished Receiver Antenna questI really wish the game had been clearer about what this item does. My anus was not prepared for 4+ simultaneous weather events. Barely made it with the squad intact.
>>735032193Marshmallow pleases old men for catnip
>>735032045You are an actual retard.You don't 'adapt' to getting mana screwed. Your deck is constructed with a specific gameplan in mind that requires a specific number of lands. It is not at all uncommon for a player that is mana screwed (lets say a sketchy keep of 2 lands on the draw and then getting nothing but spells) to have literally 0 game actions they can choose to take. You cannot adapt to being told 'you are not allowed to play the game right now'.
>>735032193FRANKLIN NO THE SUCCUBUS ONLY WANTS YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL
>>735032193Her tail should be wrapping around his
How do you decide the class of your "Path of the X" cats?
>>735032434collarless always
>>735032434i just wing it
Interesting foreshadowing
>>735032287>You cannot adapt to being told 'you are not allowed to play the game right now'.Gee it's almost like both games allow you to decide what you bring into a board ahead of time.And erm, what do you do when your epic 6 piece combo deck gets disrupted turn 1? You DO have a gameplan right?
>>735032287Maybe you're right, but still events are not bullshit, you can always just adapt or play around them
>>735032532x butthole brat
finally fought the bloat and I just wanna say I'm realizing that all these bosses that are being called utter bullshit are actually "requires a modicum of effort and strategy". like you niggas are coasting on unga bunga meat wall shit or something, can't even have a unit jerking off in the corner to lure the eyeballs away?
>>735012059That's God
>>735032057The 'Tism Twins
>>735032682Just use a psychic and vaporize the eyeballs
Pyro v Zara was obnoxious.
>>735032714Look we haven't all bred Become Entropy onto every cat in our house yet.
>>735032735
>>735032582>alwaysChange that to "usually", and you've got it right. This game has a lot of unique interactions. Some are nothingburgers. Many can be worked around. A few are genuine "you lose lol" moments for the majority of team comps in that scenario.
>>735032665Many say the cross hole is better, which it is.
>Marshmallow can charm your cat with the Kaiju collar and appear in a later run
>>735032870what happens if she charms an entropy catare you just fucked
>>735032870this is the ultimate form of ntr and would prompt me to kill myself on the spot
>>735032870lmao
Man, act 3 is just unfun. Spewer is irritating as fuck, enemies there are annoying and inflicting injuries on basic attacks are like dragging your balls through glass
>>735032870Holy shit.Do you have to take down the kaiju to win?
Hrmmmmgmmmhh.Normally I'd jump straight for the psychic spell, but I found a shotgun during this run, and I'm still in the alley...Is shotgun good enough to justify Repair instead?
>>735022101Let's not go that far.
>>735032870Not as bad as thishttps://youtu.be/O_jo0udIEE8?si=x4gjvXD93K3gFH0F
>>735032807Had it. Zara kept bracing though, so it didn't do much other than make the tank unkillable.
>>735033042yes>>735033131>Is shotgun good enough to justify Repair instead?ONLY if you pointblank backstab with it
>>735026372It's not so much meticulous planning when half the classes don't have aoe attacksAnd if you don't get them because of rng on the classes that do have those skills the fight is tedious and shit which is me probably half the time :)))
>>735033131Mmm, I'd go Repair because you can potentially pass it down for future weapon bullshit.Shotgun needs to be up close for good use but that cat also has 8 con so why not.
>>735033282>And if you don't get them because of rngyou control your rngbreed aoe attacks onto your kittensuse equipment with aoe effects
>>735033131You can repair your other cat's gear (not just weapon)
>>735024828>Once of Edmund's associates berated people for spoiling the fun and call it like eating a 100 bucks steak in one bitekek, chew your steak is a lot more funnier nowi assumed it was something like calling the game well done steak, tough and nasty
How much is one shared grandparent going to crank inbred-ness?
>>735033424Not much.You might get a defect but probably not.
>>735032870If someone had this happen to them I would not fault for them for uninstalling the game on the spot and never playing again
>>735032986Git gud
>>735033320Too much work for an act one boss I'll just do the spider or gangbang him on all sides
>>735011310>healer turns into a tall eldritch creature >gives her to my smoll fighter to snu snu
nigger kills man in the moon ONCE and suddenly he has an attitude
>>735033612Monsterfucker threads in a nutshell
>>735032870thank god she doesn't keep your charmed units permanently too
>>735033417Funny thing, this happened in a QnA and the question was actually asked by a furry that draws transformation fetish art actually.
>>735030945missed opportunity to have it glow like her mouth.
>solo run>random event gives a new cat to party>instantly kill the fucker>still no solo markfuck you edmund that's not even fair
>>735011352If you have a high HP cat to sacrifice to his mouth and a decent way of healing him, he's basically free.But if you're talking playing the gimmick as intended, it's annoying as fuck I agree.
>>735033168>Cat does 999 damage>Somehow lost to MarshmallowOkay, they deserve to have it used against them on future runs
>>735033840Getting a stray added to your party that isn't the pity stray is so incredibly rare I think fate just has it out for you.
>>735033168that's fucking evil, truly evil.
>>735033168kek how do you fuck this up?
>>735033840I had a stray show up for 2 or 3 fights before I managed to kill them, made sure they were dead before I killed the act boss
>>735034051It's a RL, if you can have persistent effects between runs, why can't enemies? Character ghosts are a thing
>>735033935>>735034074the loner gun only does 999 to friendlies
>>735011310He's the only desert boss I lost to. He kept rolling 6s and I couldn't unroll the 6s. It was extremely ridiculous.
>>735033979it was a primordial dwarf super luck thief so I frequently got crit successes on events
>>735033305>>735033268>Went with Repair>Didn't realize I can also repair weapons beyond their starting value>And I just got a sniper rifle from an eagle.Finally, a Tinkerer that is somewhat useful.
>>735034190Skill issue
whats that smell coming from?
>>735034051
>>735028719surprised jannies or anyone else didn't notice the nipple
>>735032682just kinda shitty when you dont have a cat with cheap spammable spells.
>>735032735by far the biggest road block for me. everything else was smooth sailing.
>>735034765honestly I had no clue because that's one big tooshie she's got.
>>735034765I'd say this ventures into tasteful nudityfatfags are still mentally ill
I fucking hate this game, it's not fun 90% of the time, but I keep going back to it because it's the only good thing in the modern sea of absolute fucking shit + it's made by Steakmund and I've been playing Isaac since 2012 almost non-stop.
>>735034190Assuming at least 3 cats and that each got at least one hit on the dice that's ungodly unlikely so congrats on the turbo shit luck
