>>735016816
Outdated, Brotherhood was a big improvement

>>735016816
Ye, bar the modern times part. I always dread them on replays.

Somewhat. But if you played the Prince of Persia trilogy you will notice it's just a dumbed down mass appeal cash in by Ubisoft

>>735016816
2 of the three ezio focused games are among the best assassin's creed games you can enjoy.

Honestly? 2 was great, 3 was fun, 4 was a jumped shark. Brotherhood and Revelations had their moments (brotherhood more than revelations). Fuck 1, they were smoking some crack when they made the controls for 1.

Anything after 4 isnt worth playing.

>>735017206
This was one of the few AC games that had fun modern day parts

>>735016816
Legitimately great

>>735016928
Being able to call your recruits to just kill everyone the nanosecond you run into an enemy hurts it. This was also in the thick of Ubisoft's obsession with tie-ins, so you were expected to level up by playing their horrible Facebook game.

>>735016928
How so?

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>>735016816
Worse that 1, but an absolute masterpiece compared with what comes out nowadays.

>>735019567
That was one of the best features in the game. The combat in AC was never the main draw.

Black Flag = II > Unity > III > Syndicate > Rogue > I > PSP > Lib.

I rank III as an 8, so overall it was a great franchise before Origins. I might start those with Odyssey though.

>>735022241
A "kill everyone" button does not work in a stealth game.

>>735022337
Good thing BH was way more than that. Also, you could say that's literally the main point of the game. Training assassins so that one day they might replace you.

>>735022497
>you could say that's literally the main point of the game.
And you could hack a Devil May Cry game to make yourself invincible and able to kill anything in one hit. The assassin recruit call button was badly designed. The game would instantly be better without it.

>>735022929
You're literally not required to use it for 99% of missions, so by all means just pretend it doesn't exist.

>>735022319
lol
lmao even

>>735016816
I don't know. I never played

>>735016816
It's still great but it invented the Ubisoft open world formula that they have recycled over and over

>>735021869
>worse than 1
Not a single person genuinely believes this

>>735021612
Chaining instakills after parry was probably the biggest single improvement, especially after playing the combat focused dlcs in 2. Adding knives/bullets you could loot off dead bodies is also up there, but that made bags less useful. Also a lot of smalelr qol improvements.

>>735016816
best music fosho

>>735023160
And you're not required to press the pause button, yet they bothered to make the pause menu work.

Revelations>II>Brotherhood>Origins>I>the rest

>>735016816
It's okay. Comfy.

The music and vibes are very good, clearly it was a passion project.

>>735028987
You could've just said you were autistic

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>>735016816
it was, at the time, one of those rare examples of a sequel to a game being way better than the first game
everybody thought it was fucking great, still kinda good if you like that kind of game/topic matter

those games still had first person cam too so you can really get down to street level and look around to figure out the environment and enjoy the scenery
I should play it again honestly

>>735029759
The point that you were incapable of figuring out on your own is that a move that completely invalidates combat should not exist, and it isn't excused by just not using it.

>>735019567
>Being able to
but not forced to

>>735016816
Ass creed is probably the worst big franchise ever made

Is it true that the only things Black Flag has going on are the ship combat and the story?

>>735016928
Nah. Brotherhood is set in a single city and a lot of your time is spent simply running up to buildings and confirming you went to renovate them. Followers are boring to level using the typical mission table and once you have just a handful you can use a screen clearing attack with a fairly low cooldown time. There's also expanded modern day sections that no one really asked for.

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>>735032934
In terms of quality? Probably. The other side activities are mainly gathering items on various islands or in cities and a few random activities. Just sailing around is pretty nice as well though.

>>735033318
I've seen anons complaining about tailing missions, but that was it. Honestly, the hyping over the remake was so big in the recent weeks that I almost played the game for the first time, but I'll just wait now.
I just hope it's not case of most players looking at this with rose tinted glasses. I couldn't finish the first game when I played.

Anybody here try out the parkour mod?

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>>735033189
>There's also expanded modern day sections that no one really asked for.
I must be the only guy who just kind of likes the modern day bits as low stress breathers inbetween the much more compelling historical drama of the desmond era games

>>735033508
its pretty subtle

>>735033189
>a single city
That would be valid if cities in 2 weren't basically identical architecturally. Only Tuscany felt significantly different, and you're there for like 2 missions.

>>735033456
The first AC is extremely repetitive and uses a very predictable structure of being lectured to by Al Mualim at Masyaf and then leaving for one of the three cities and their three districts doing familiar missions until you assassinate a target and repeat the whole process again. AC2 and beyond do away with that and the games are less rigid onward but change again with Origins when they become open world. Black Flag is a little unique because it uses the ship introduced in AC3 as a main feature, far more than any other AC. It works out pretty well especially with the pirate themed story and feels more unique than the others. It is pretty good overall I feel.

>>735033694
Venice plays completely differently to Florence mainly because of its canals. And its architecture is definitely unique

What the hell were they thinking adding RPG mechanics to this franchise? Who the hell wants to see a hidden blade "assassination" do 1/8th an enemies hp because they're five levels higher than you?

>>735033521
They're fine but you don't need to add on rails platforming sections to make them more compelling

>>735016816
no
play first, brotherhood/revelations or black flag, maybe third

>>735033456
it's pretty good, solid game

>>735034121
yeah and just play as ezio without knowing what he's been through or who his associates are

>>735016816
I replayed it recently since I loved it when it came out. Fucking hated it. Massive downgrade from 1 in just about every way except world design. Great music and cool ending, though.

>>735016816
it's good, brotherhood was less jank though albeit much easier
wish they didn't turn leo into a faggot but ubishit just couldn't resist pozzing it up one way or another

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>>735016816
Best in the series along with the first one. Amazing trilogy, too. 2, Brotherhood, and Revelations.

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>>735034035
I mean I can agree with that
at the time nobody paid them much attention because it was all aimed toward "desmond learning how to use his abilities in present day" to do the present day/futuristic asscreed that everyone thought it was leading to, so narratively it fits, and we all presumed it'd end with desmond just being a modern times assassin in a pre-mirrors edge style dystopia or something similar to that

I'm not so much of a fan of the modern day sections in AC3 for this reason because at the end of the game they just kill that

>>735036508
>modern AC would've been a third person Mirror's Edge
God damn it...

>>735016816
It's overrated and turns to shit as soon as you leave florence

>>735036635
sounds fucking cool right?
it's what everyone who looked out the windows in AC1 thought, that eventually they were gonna be out there
there was a lot more mystery to the franchise so there was more speculation then

>>735035810
was the first one really that good?
It just felt like doing a few odd jobs before a rendezvous with your handler, then more jobs before you get your local assassination target and kill him before fucking off into the desert and riding around for 15 minutes to get to the next town.

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>>735016816
its one of the best games eve made, it has one of the best intoductions to a game in my opinion, you ae liteally bon and told to pess the diffeent face buttons to move you diffeent limbs. pue cinema

the stoy is good, you ae tanspoted to a diffeent ea of humanity, you get to expeience a diffeent cultue, the soundtack is fucking amazing
and thee ae 3 of them, so thee is so much to expeience, I love to eplay the ezio tilogy evey now and then, its comfy as fuck

and yeah my keyboad is boken

>>735033521
they were neat in AC1 to Brotherhood when the real world plot had some actual meaning and you were seeing Desmond grow and develop his assassin skills
it went to shit in 3 though and was wholly unnecessary afterwards

>>735016816
good? brother, its the best. play all three of ezios games.

>>735037108
the first one isn't an incredible game, but its unique and felt different than anything at the time. we were all used to running around cities as invincible assholes with guns, this game forced you to be sneaky and avoid combat completely. the assassinations were badass, finding actually useful information through sidequests felt amazing, and the story kept the game loop interesting. then you get the counter and you can kill as many people as you want.

>>735037337
>finding actually useful information through sidequests felt amazing
it's a great feeling when you do some seemingly generic intimidation or recon sidequest and it rewards you with information in the menu that you can actually use to then plan the assassination in advance
first time you use some info you collected to kill a dude before he knows what's happening and then leg it using the exit strategy you've devised is some powerful neuron activation, it just makes you do a lot of busy work for it

>>735026781
AC1 was better because it actually had difficulty.