These are the best 3D and 2D platformers of all timeMy question is, why does no one want to admit it?
Psychonauts is very rough around the edges in terms of gameplay, everything aside from that is God tier. Jak is barely even a platformer. I don't think any 3D platformers do a terrific job of translating the core 2D platformer gameplay into 3D, but Mario 3D World does a decent enough job so I'd toss my vote to that Rayman (Origins) is great. DKTF is undoubtedly the best 2D platformer. Wario Land 4 and Yoshi's Island are also very good
the best 2D platformer of all time is Super mario worldthe best 2.5 D platformer is Crash 2the best 3D platformer of all time is mario 64 or 3D worlddeal with it
>>735020085SMW, the game that lets you fly over the entire stage. nah
>>735020367>I deliberately cheesed the stage, this is too easy!
>>735020443I shouldn't have to make my own fun. that's the role of a game developer
I disagree with you.
>>735020650flying with the cape is fun. You dont have to fly if you dont want to
>>735019174Rayman on the PS1 is one of the best though it is brick hard. Harder than the also brick hard Crash Bandicoot 1 which I managed to complete 100% but never managed Rayman.
Hollow KnightCelesteSuper Mario OdysseyAstro Boti'm trans btw
>Im poorThats what I read
>>735020085>best 2.5 D platformer is Crash 2Crash is not 2.5D
>>735020085Its 64, closest anyone ever came to surpassing it was Sunshine.
>>735020832It sort of is because the levels are entirely linear. It's not like 3D Zelda or something where you have this whole map to run around in.
>>735019174Best 2D is Donkey Kong Country 2Best 2.5 D is Tropical FreezeBest 3D is Super Mario Galaxy 2This is the part where (You) disagree with me
>>735020832it is by every definition of 2.5 D. you run linearly and occasionally it shifts on the Z axis
>>735019174tropical freeze is debatably the best you have listed here, but dkc2 is still betterjak is good for ripping off the best, but the best is still better.personally think the best would be mario 1 or sonic 3&K for 2d and 3d is mario 64 or sunshine with very little coming close when it comes to pure movement besides some small techdemo games like psuedoregalia
>>735020786>i'm a brand whoreThat's what I read
>>735020897>>735021016>>735021301You do not like video games
>>735021016galaxy 2 sucked>dogshit yoshi powerups>made yoshi clunky to use and forced you to point at things>dogshit powerups in general>piss easy>levels are still linear hallways floating in space>went overboard on prankster comets
>any retro DKC over TFcome the fuck on. the aspect ratio and size of the player's sprite is ridiculous, you can barely even see what's ahead of you
>>735021413>shit pants because I don’t like his ps2 era copycat games>>735021498Fair enough, I still like it though. Any opinion besides sunshine is valid to me.
>>735020897Sunshine is the worst 3D Mario, I don't get why /v/ has spent 25 years trying to pretend otherwise.
Ranking any Mario games as best anything feels like ranking anime and putting the Pokemon anime in the top 10, it just reveals a critical lack of knowledge and taste and a surface level exposure to the medium
>>735021523works on my end
>>735021679>copycatYou sound like you care more about brand than gameplay anon
I am never touching these smelly non-Nintendo platformers. Every gameplay footage I've seen looks boring as fuck. Literally 90% of them are safe mid-air jumping and drop crushing boxes and fighting enemy mobs. Repeat 1000 times with maybe some really miserable minigame segment shoved in for some reason like a driving stage. Meanwhile Mario focuses on actual fun movement like dives, wallkicks, longjumps, double/triple jumps, jump kick, etc.
>>735020690That's not how game design works
>>735022423see >>735021413
>>735022427why not?>hey heres an optional way to have fun traversing the level, and it doubles as an attack ability when you spin>NO I DONT WANT THAT REEEEEEEEE
>>735020897agreed, love the gameplay mechanics and how responsive Mario is. he feels sluggish and retarded in every game afterwards. plus the setting, OST and feel are pure soul
>>735022481why not give me an optional way to beat the level instantly? some people might find that fun
>>735022541that a retarded analogy. You have to gitgud to maintain your vertical height and know the level to fly over everything
>>735022481Because if the player is charged with designing their own fun there is no game design The point of game design is to naturally bring the player to the blade's edge of friction and challenge, if the player has to do that on their own then the game designer failed, if there's no challenge why bother You wouldn't say Pokemon is well designed because it's only fun with a Nuzlocke run
>>735020085>the best 2.5 D platformer isMaplestory.
>>735022540Mario 64 controls like a greasy boat tho
>>735022621you can play the game normally without flying over everything and have fun with the level design. Your analogies are just getting more and more stupid
>>735021956Okay why are your franchise’s dead and forgotten if they were so good?
>>735022734>sales = qualityYep it's a brand whore, as one anon already said you do not like video games if you play them for the brand
>>735022680
>>735022726>auto scrollerthis disqualifies it from best platformer
>>735022782It's actually a game design issue
>>735019174The best 2D of all time is an indie fangame that came out in summer of 2024.
>>735022824why? does it make your ADHD act up?
>>735020713its also worlds ahead of nu2Drayman in literally every regard
>>735019174Lol.
>>735022953inherently bad game design
>>735024682how so?
>>735019174the best 2d plaftormer is God of War Sons of Spartathe best 3d platformr is Astrobotdeal with it
>>735019174>these are the best platformersStand aside!
>>735022540Probably because by the time wii came around, Nintendo had a full on casualization goal, which to be fair made them a lot money
>>735025076From the thumbnail I thought it was Focus M
>>735020929You're kinda stupid you knowWhat you're saying is like claiming SMB isn't a 2D platformer because you can't go anywhere like Metroid
>>735019174>best platformers of all time >all of them focus more on visual spectacle and worldbuilding than good platforming mechanics or skill expression Do platformer fans even like platforming?
>>735019174Best 2D platformer is super mario bros 2Best 2.5D is Kirby 64Best 3D platformer is SM3D worldMost creative 3D platformer is Snake PassBest atmosphere goes to mario galaxy 13D platformer honorable mention: ape escapeBest Indie 2D platformer is shovel knight Bes Indie 3D platformer goes to Pseudoregalia(I dont even like furries, the bar is realy low)3D platformers are usualy shit(dont lie). A endless battle against moving platforms and bad camera with a similar moveset stolen from mario64. I dont have a thing against furniture.
>>735029284>Best 2.5D is Kirby 64not by any stretch of the imagination. The actual jumping and platforming is baby tier, the meat and potatoes is the action and puzzles
>>735029369>2.5 D
>>735029729yes, thats what we're talking about. there is little to no challenge whatsoever in the platforming
>>735021498Mario galaxy 1 felt more focused, had a better isolated and atherial atmosphere, and the green stars in SMG2 was a complete waste of time. Smg2 is a clownish and linear package, with an extremely solid fundation.
>>735029284>so many Mario games>and a Kirby gameAre you 12?
>>735030416galaxy 1 was just as linear
>>735029783It is a fun and cute rollercoaster ride, best abilities, most interesting areas in a Kirby game, good use of 3D perspective, good music and more. Maintaining the abilities to 100% the game can be a challenge some places. It is a better showcase of 2.5D than dk returns, and Dk tropical freeze has abhorrent load times. IDK, I just like it better. Havent played klonoa
>>735029278Look at it this way>10/10 gameplay>5/10 visuals>5/10 audio>5/10 atmosphere/worldbuilding>total 25/40>7/10 gameplay>10/10 visuals>10/10 audio>10/10 atmosphere/worldbuilding>total 37/40
>>735031075not saying its bad. But it doesnt focus on level navigation like better platformers do
>another shitty contrarian bait thread where anon pretends mario isn't miles above the rest*yawn*
>>735031608>another shitty casual that pretends *leading brand* is the best for being the leading brand
>>735034243The only thing DKC does better than Mario is moviegameshit like visuals and soundtrack. It's a platformer for people who hate platformers. They would've been TLOU fans if it released back then.
>>735035598Anon Mario is a literal baby game, the entire series from the SNES onward contains zero challenges necessary to beat any of the gamesDKCR and TF have some tough as balls (and fun as a result) levels and bosses that are actually prerequisites for beating the games, Mario excels at literally nothing except normalfag appeal
