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Discuss the video game Wakfu, the MMORPG. Dofus is cool too.
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Wakfu the videogame!
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>>735021632
It's one of those things where you wonder where it all went wrong, like the style is great and I wish there was more of it, just nothing they do with it seems to catch on. It's all outdated.
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What about Waven?
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why is this artstyle so erotic
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>>735021764
It's actually been increasing in popularity lately, they're taking good care of the game which can't be said about a lot of other old MMOs.

>>735021776
We don't talk about that.
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Any mods?
For context, this is just stuff brigaded by the MMOd people.
>2290989
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GO BACK TO YOUR GENERAL
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>>735021764
I think if they just made a proper single player Turn based tactics game with a stronger story, maps, and cast instead of akways doing MMOs the series would perform better.

Also I think the French Government stopped subsidizing animated media as much as they use to.
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>>735021817
>It's actually been increasing in popularity lately
Oh really? That's good then.
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>>735021764
>where you wonder where it all went wrong
But nobody wonders at all. Everybody knows, Ankama is a terrible company that constantly, consistently makes terrible choices.
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>>735021632
Mods moved your thread
>>>/vg/560436131
Now you made another one again. This is spam.
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>>735022023
Wakfu gets like one thread a year what are you on about?
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>>735022023
you are a miserable faggot lmfao go outside
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Imagine having dozens of gacha and straight up porn threads and you come into a fucking wakfu thread to complain.
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My Pokopia thread died because of this shit
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>>735022023
>jannies please save me people are discussing videogames on /v/
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>>735022080
I'm not the one making another /v/ thread. Just post your shit in /vm/.
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>>735022129
lel
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>>735022156
kill yourself you pathetic miserable wannabe janny
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>>735022156
What's worse, a janny or a faggot who wants to be a janny?
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>my life revolves around this single thing on /vm/
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I would love to play Wakfu together with anons, on the Rubilax server, in a guild with a funny name. Something like Clover Croissants. In fact, I'm gonna check if a guild with this name exists already, and ask for an invite!
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THE 10TH RE9 THREADON THE BOARD DIED FOR THIS
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MODS MODS HELP ANONS ARE TALKING ABOUT VIDEOGAMES PLEASE COME PICK ME UP MODS BABY NEED MODS
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>>735022318
>playing VIDEOGAMES on the VIDEOGAME board
I'm calling the cops
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Wow, what a coincidence! Sounds like something that belongs in /vg/.
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Any good games in Wakfu's artstyle?
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I enjoy discussing Wakfu the video game in a thread that is only meant to be a single thread with no intention to continue beyond that single thread, thus not making it a general!
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>>735022446
I don't think I've ever seen another game that looks like Wakfu, the way Ankama makes games is just so different from anyone else.
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>>735022459
This is the second thread thougheverbeit cause VidoeGema wanted another one.
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>>735021764
Isnt it kinda big in France due to the TV show?
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mods = fags
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>>735022521
going to shit and cry little faggot?
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>>735022527
Yeah Dofus and Wakfu are pretty popular in France, patriotism or something and that's where they market the most.
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>>735021892
I wish there were more turn based MMOs in general not just tactical turn based. But one with more character customisation options would be cool rather than "Oh you wanna be this class? Well you gotta be a furry wearing a loincloth tough shit"
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>thread is shit, meanwhile actual discussions are happening in the /v/ thread jannies moved to /vg/
I always knew the clique was the problem.
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>>735022446
Dofus or is that cheating?

>>735022516
I wish they'd make more single player games I think they'd be more successful
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>>735022578
sounds like you're doing enough of it. I'm good
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>>735022652
Their single player games have all been total flops, but they've never made one that's actually good I guess
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>Join the EN community chat
>Still full of BRs
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>>735021764
>Older game
>Tactical MMO which is a hard sell because its so different to your typical MMO
>Turn based which is slower for the dopamine addicts who just wanna spam run dungeons at break neck speed
>They seem to mostly focus on their French audience the most as thats where the most money seems to be but that also alienates everyone else
>Ankama isn't that competent of a company
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>>735022598
>a billion absolutely terrible threads that should be banned immediately are left up
>actual proper videogame discussion gets deleted or moved

I have no clue what is going on with this place anymore and as far as I can tell the current janitors absolutely despise what 4chan used to be and are attempting to destroy the site completely. There is absolutely no fucking reason I should be seeing a single goddamn gacha, AAA, social media repost or NTR h game thread up at any point in time.
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>>735021632
how did the french get away with creating scantily-clad lolis in games
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>>735021764
You just described France as a whole. Wakfu is a product of its time and the times have changed to where France as a people can't produce something like this anymore.
You have to remember when this game came out and this cartoon was showing bare JB ass on children's TV: Ubisoft was still one of the biggest players in gaming and Vivendi still owned blizzard.

The world is different and it decided that France shouldn't be in charge of making serious decisions about gaming.
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https://www.wakfu.com/en/mmorpg/encyclopedia/classes
which class would you wakfug?
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>>735023094
huppers are cute
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Should I play dofus retro to relive some 2010 nostalgia or is it a ghost town?
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>>735023168
That game is very clunky tho
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>>735022921
desu cosplaying died in general, cons ruined cosplaying and most people just use shitty tenmu stuff instead making their own.
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When did the guild get made? Just today?
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>>735023328
only a few hours ago
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>>735023354
Alright cool so I'm not too far behind, I assume everyones still in the same area?
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>>735021764
They didn't put any incest or pregnancy in it
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>>735023551
probably all still in Astrub
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Was there ever a point where Wakfu had tons of players or was it always BR bait? Cause the game feels lik it deserves to be at least semi-popular.
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>>735023826
When it was new it was pretty packed, but quickly died out, again when the Phaeris f2p server came out, it was pretty packed and lasted a while, then the OGREST server came out and again, it was packed for a while but sort of died, then they made the NEO servers which brought a lot of people back and right now it's fairly active again.
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Why did everyone say the show dropped off hard around Season 3?
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>>735023826
>>735023964
I know there was a point where the TV show became a huge hit I wonder if it brought more players?
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>>735021632
play the Ogrest server, it's the actually fun one
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I want a AAA action RPG set in the world of twelve so bad bros… Ankama just license it out to some studio ffs
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>>735024212
because the show dropped off hard around Season 3
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Is there any way to split the chatlog and the battle messages? The msg spam each turn is pretty hardcore.
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>>735024729
yeah you can make new tabs and choose which logs show up
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>>735024495
I'm pretty sure they're all in the one that doesn't require giving your phone number. I'm playing in Ogrest though for the 2 weeks. Just don't want to be bothered by scale of bots and the community it brings.
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>that Zone animation of Amalia and Evangelyne
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I'm thinking this server might be based
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>>735024873
Is it littered with BRs like this server?
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>>735021632
Oh, what a coincidence. FYI, the MMOdventure guys just started playing this for the next two weeks. We're on Rubilax, the guild is Clover Croissants for anyone who wants to join in. There should be people hanging around somewhere in Astrub.
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Is Wakfu even remotely playable these days with a duo? A friend and I used to enjoy playing it, but it was either every fight being a joke, or every fight being impossible with no in between.
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>>735025906
If you play on Rubilax you can both play as 3 characters and have a full team, if you subscribe of course.
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>>735025664
guess why I said it's better? I also plan on playing it for longer since I'm not a NEET. I'm being more anonymous by playing without the regulars anyway, and it's nice to take a break away from them sometimes.
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>>735022023
>Holy shit is that a thread about an ACTUAL game and not AI slop or a Twitter screencap thread
>JANNY MAN SAVE ME AIEEEEEE
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>>735021764
>'s one of those things where you wonder where it all went wrong
unlike the series the MMO doesnt have a LO that constantly ntr-baits and emasculates you
>>735024212
>ugly bastard clapping Percedal's daugther's cheeks while he was dying.
>the panties guy
>Ruel being a deadbeat
>no more oneshota-bait
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>>735026818
I live to play with the clique in game, live to piss them off out of it. Gotta live in chaos, anon.
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>>735021632
I don't even know what this is but I have a wakfu folder with a shit.load of porn.
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>>735021632
Sorry, I've only played Krosmaga. I just never got around to the Wakfu games, but I've at least had some fun with the card game. As much as people don't play it much anymore.
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>>735028203
It's French so you're doing it right
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>>735023317
Most cosplayers have onlyfans now, it's tragic.
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>>735026304
Were you the one that played Toontown rewritten instead of corporate clash too?
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>>735025906
Not really but multiboxing is allowed on some servers and easy to do since its turnbased so you just make another character to be the third, or you both do and then you have four.
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>>735025815
Cute oneeshota
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>>735026304
>I'm being more anonymous
you've not only been tracked, but also excommunicated.
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wtf is this name autism
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>>735029067
I don't know why I expected that I could name myself -------- ''FUN'' ---------
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>>735028758
having her pose like a pornstar was a bit much imo
>>735028592
their older stuff was even better. everything is so cucked and gays nowadays
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she has official nudes.
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>>735029392
Yes yes, we've all seen the storyboard panels of her nipples and pubes.
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the latest version of doooofus is censorshipped btw :(
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>>735029576
how so?
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>>735027620
>>Ruel being a deadbeat
Ruel was a deadbeat since the very beginning though
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>>735029343
>their older stuff was even better. everything is so cucked and gays nowadays
France in general just isn't allowed to be great nowadays, Capital vestment firms trying to capture "GLOBAL MARKET" has careened their entire media division into the ground.

Just think, when Wakfu came out, France had Ubisoft nearly eating Activision's lunch, they had Viviendi who owned something like 40% of the western games market including Blizzard. Making a game studio in france came with some seriously great perks that the world hasn't known since its time. It was the perfect storm of making an industry-changing player- Aaaaand Macron just made another round of corporate cuts that killed the entire industry and now Ubisoft is worth less than 5% what it was 10 years ago and Viviendi got all of its stakes abroad bought-out and is less relevant than Disney. Oh look, and then he passed a load of legislation capitulating to decency puritans making it where something like Wakfu would have an uphill battle even getting released today.

Perfect.
Never underestimate the French to be the biggest enemy of the French.
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How is the Wakfu MMO doing these days? I haven't played since they added moon island, and the last wakfu/dofus related thing I touched after that were the ogrest comics (I didn't watch Season 4 nor do I plan to watch it, same with S5)
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Was this game updated recently? Most of the fandom wiki and wakfu.wiki.gg stuff seems outdated.
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>>735021802
they are not american artists
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>>735029901
>How is the Wakfu MMO doing these days?
Playing it now, unless you want to contend with the server that requires your phone number, you have to contend with

BR?
BR!
Huehuehuehue

which to be fair most of the internet is such a cesspool that seeing them act as they always have actually feels like a breath of fresh air. Seeing them casually spout racial slurs made me feel more at home than the last 5 years on the English internet.
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>>735028603
I mean its cheap and effective advertising since weebs usually pay for any kind of slop.
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>>735029946
There was a HUGE revamp in 2023. All the placements of everything changed.
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>>735029757
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>>735021764
because wakfu has always been a braindead version of dofus literally no one asked for
your "hardest" wakfu class doesn't even come remotely close to the kind of shit a dofus xelor can pull
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>>735030215
it's over
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>>735029865
>GLOBAL
Im starting to hate globalists and their doublespeak
>Never underestimate the French to be the biggest enemy of the French.
yes the (((french)))
>>735021802
they arent drawn like men
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>>735030510
>Im starting to
Hey you're about ten years late and maybe 20 years past the point where anyone could do anything about it.
I remember when this happened >>735030215 and people were pissed, ironically I think Squenix are the ones who started the censorship train on that game.
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>>735030215
All female characters got cup size increases going into Dofus 3.0, it’s decensored again
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>>735030215
anon... it's not censorship, just a new design, they even added the old one back as an option
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>>735030510
>left is supposed to be a xelor
>looks nothing like a xelor and looks more like a cra
what did they mean by this?
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>>735030441
when was the last time you played wakfu brother?
fact of the matter is that most of the wakfu classes are way more complicated, the only dofus class that compares is xelor
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>>735030721
>>735030767
Yep
It was always Square Enix's fault
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>>735030912
Wakfu classes are only complicated with regards to maximizing damage potential
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Wakfu content is generally much, much harder than Dofus content. Say what you will about class design.
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man, I remember playing this shit with /v/ and /vg/ like a literal decade ago.
I can't believe how hard they fucked the game up, the bread nation got turned into breadcrumbs in a matter of days.
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After all these years, he's still my favorite antagonist
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>>735022921
All of those are games except for the social media posts that should get deleted
/v/ is for video games, not only video games you personally like
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In Wakfu, can Osamodas still catch creatures out in the world and use them as AI summons? I remember hearing it was something they were getting rid of or changing heavily because it was an absolute nightmare to balance (I remember taming some goat creatures from a post launch quest area and they were absolutely fucking retard strong and punched like 100+ levels above their weight).
It's kinda hard to find accurate and up to date info for this game sometimes.
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>>735031121
why do you think they fucked it up? I use to play Dofus a lot 10 years ago so I don't how it's like nowadays. But I heard they introduced a lot of QoL features and cool stuff. Still, it's a shame that with all the talent they have at Ankama they only care about making mmo slop or mobile trash
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>>735021632
i seen her bush
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>>735030063
I guess that checks out. brb, learning franch.
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>>735031506
You can capture them, but only a few specific ones for each level range.
They all have custom spells, and also abilities/passive based on their archetype.
They aren't controlled by AI anymore, you now always control them.
Its a pretty decent class, though summons don't work really well in certain content such as dimensional rifts because they only inherit your stats, not whatever buff you might have.
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>>735031076
Dofus bores me to death, it's way too easy, and most of the content is irrelevant because they won't add the ALS system from Wakfu.

>>735031506
You still get to do that, but which creatures you're allowed to catch is limited, and they now scale to your level so you can technically have a summon from a level 230 area at level 20 if someone helps you catch it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lWnZ2SUWK1FbUE_DoOM1_ByVx8sM_eo8DJtuxhNR1w0/edit?gid=292467767#gid=292467767
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>>735021632
Warhammer but cute
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>>735031686
Huh, that does sound like it could be more interesting rather than like the scenario I spoke of where you just used one creature for 250 levels and the rest might as well not exist. I remember trying to use so many different creatures every time I got to a new level and it just never compared to those level 55 goats that were overpowered as fuck.
>>735031723
Ah cool a google doccy, I'll have a look thanks anon.
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>>735031686
>>735031723
Oh is Dragon Form a thing also? When I got bored of endless goat spam I changed to that.
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>>735031961
Yes but it's nerfed to shit and kinda useless right now, it's all about summons gameplay.
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>>735031961
Yes.
Dragon Form is also a thing but it requires more tactical considerations.
Elemental spells become area spells that can only target either your or your summons.
And that's the problem.
You're forced to either go melee or setup your summon beforehand.
Besides the difference between melee and ranged mastery, that also brings a lot of tactical problems.
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Where's a good place to get up to date info on Wakfu anyway? One of the wiki's I found was grossly out of date. Curious how it's changed since I last played, I really wanted to like Ecaflip because OOOOOOOOHHHHH SEXXO but I remember it not being very good and pure RNG (mfw the gambler class gambles)
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>>735031585
>why
ankama being incompetent?
>how
I can't even remember at this point, I think them fucking about with how nations and nation conflicts worked really threw a wrench in the community joy, and they were basically fucking up everything else they could as the game went on?

it has legitimately been so long that I've actually forgotten HOW they fucked up, the only vivid memory of it I have is a big drama wave happening right after I had finished a sketch of an eniripsa getting both-holes dicked by a sram and her double
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>>735032606
Ecaflip is really good now.
Honestly the only place you're going to find up to date info is in the game itself, and maybe some of the discord servers, good class guides are few and far between so you usually just have to ask someone who plays the class you're interested in for some tips.
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>>735022527
>due to the TV show?
lol no. i feel like there are more foreigners that know about the show than french people.
Dofus is huge because it's the runescape of france. it held its own against wow during the mmo golden age and it's the babby's first mmo for many french millennials.
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>>735032643
>I had finished a sketch of an eniripsa getting both-holes dicked by a sram and her double
Go on
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Worth replaying the game if I played it exactly a decade ago?
Jesus i feel old
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>>735032882
the archives don't go back that far
i was retarded in my younger years and used puu.sh as a storage
the laptop i drew it on surged and scorched the mobo + HDD

shit's gone anon, i would've posted it myself the millisecond i could've if i still had it because i was really proud of it
hell, that's the only reason i'm bringing it up, in the hopes that some poor sod actually has that shit saved and can re-post it, but the odds are abysmal
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I will never touch this franchise because of the schizoposter who keeps spamming it.
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>>735031420
Fuck off nigger
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>>735023168
From what I seen it's got about 7k~ daily players which isn't that terrible.
The real issue is I bet 99% of those are french and you will never be allowed to do anything.

I loved dofus as a kid but dealing with the french throughout my life has been a taxing affair and I can't bring myself to deal with that full time.
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Kind of wish we went for the other server because I feel if I'd stick around with this game it'd be on that server so I'd rather keep my progress
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>>735034580
I feel ya there, anon
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>>735024212
It dropped off when they killed Nox.
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Got my first private message and its a BR
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>>735035763
alguien br?
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>>735035763
That's spanish though
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>>735033097
A lot has changed especially the kits

>>735033957
A good portion are also bots
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>>735031163
he was right
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>>735021632
>cool universe
>always make shitty MMOs out of it
Ankama really is run by absolute retards.
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>>735033845
You fuck off, that line of thinking is what is being leveraged against this thread
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>>735037618
they should honestly just cut their losses at this point and just make fanservice games like shantae. their artstyle is what carries the series anyways
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>>735022921
>flood of newfags posting absolute garbage pushes out all the half decent posters
sad state of affairs
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>>735031163
qrd on this guy? I'm looking for writing ideas, but sadly I barely got time for this and can't spare myself to watch series every now and then.
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>>735037832
They could make literally any singleplayer game and make absolute bank because both the artstyle and universe is beloved, but they never fucking do because their entire staff comes from the Meuporg era where grinding for 5000000 hours with your clan was considered "fun".
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>>735037936
idk how to tell you this but they've made several single player games nobody played
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>>735037885
>qrd on this guy?
guy is a watch maker with a family
finds eliacube, an extremely powerful alien artifact
drives him crazy, family leaves
family dies in flood
guy makes it his life's purpose to gather energy by committing genocide in order to go back in time and save his family
in his mind, everything will be undone if he succeeds so his cause is just
dude drains the tree of life and murders an entire race, proceeds to go back in time
obviously not enough energy to make the entire universe rewind
blames the eliacube, insists it was talking to him
dies
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How is Enutrof? Seems interesting like an explorer character
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>>735037885
Based as fuck Villain. Tried to experiment on an artifact, kinda consumed him, lost his family, then theorized he could use the artifact to go back in time with enough wakfu (life energy) so he rationalizes that it doesn't matter what he does, who he hurts or what damage he causes because he'll undo it all.
He finally succeeds in getting enough and rewinds time for like 5 minutes, where he just fucking checks out and disappears because he realizes how fucked up he is and how much of a monster he's become with no magic undo.
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>>735037936
They've made single player games and they've flopped
>>735037618
I think the whole TRPG MMO thing is novel too though just wish they did more with it.
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Been dying for a game like this after getting super addicted to mewgenics. How is it solo these days? I know >solo MMO shiggy diggy doo, but I'm just curious, I played it years and years ago with some friends and I even had some companions I bought by farming Hoodlums and selling class artifact thingies, one was like a prismatic blob creature that was a healer.
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>>735038328
I looked into it, all of them are mobile games or mobile-tier shit, with the only exception being Krosmaga, and it doesn't fair any better
>Krosmaga
>card game focused on being "competititve"
>mmo style grind for fake money if you don't pay up with real money to buy cards
Once again proving the biggest enemy of Ankama is Ankama themselves.
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>>735038437
Depends what you mean by "solo"
>Actually by yourself
You're gonna get nowhere and you'll get destroyed
>Multi-boxing multiple characters
Yeah it's possible.
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>>735038526
Oof, don't think I'd be up for multiboxxing. Thanks for the answer though dude.
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>>735038437
Wakfu really pushes you to play in a party, but if you play on Rubilax and get the subscription you can play with 3 characters, which is half of a full group, you can either multibox the other account for a full party or play with a friend or random people when you need to
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>>735037717
Fuck off nigger
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When did Wakfu as a franchise peak?
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>>735038437
>>735038526
>>735038610
It pushes for party play but you can do dimensional rifts and battlefields (pvp) just fine.
Most of the story quests can also be done alone (except for the ones that ask you to lower your own level and clear a dungeon).
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>>735038729
That one scene where they get naked and go in the bath and everything is blocked by smug duck but then in the storyboard drafts you realize they drew it all like absolute fucking madlads
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>>735038556
Since its turn based its pretty easy you just switch boxes on your turn.
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>>735038808
>actually go through the effort of drawing the women nude
>censor them anyway in the final product
why?
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>>735038851
Cause it's a TV show, and the networks wouldn't let it pass without flagging it as 18+
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>>735038851
That's how drawing works
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Thinking about running 6 different accounts instead of 2 with subscriptions.
https://www.wakdraft.ovh/#/teambuild
I don't know french so I'm having my browser translate the page, but are the contents of the of site accurate?
Also, why is it wrong for the number of DPT to be higher than the number of supports?
What would be the problem with running 1 tank, 1 healer and 4 damage dealers?
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>>735038041
>they've made several single player games nobody played
Because it was all mobile-tier garbage.
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>>735037885
>qrd on this guy?
I don't think you'll ever get a better qrd than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO-lEeGMGZQ
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>>735039185
>but are the contents of the of site accurate?
Somewhat, I don't really agree with some of it.
>What would be the problem with running 1 tank, 1 healer and 4 damage dealers?
It would be fine as long as some of the damage dealers can reduce resistances, it's just more optimal to use supports to buff the shit out of fewer DPT characters, and it will be less expensive since supports don't need good gear.
Most teams will work fine as long as you've got some kind of sustain in the group, it's just up to how well you play the game.

You can also buy the subscription with ogrines which you can get from the kama exchange (though you might need to make one real purchase first?) so you should still think about using 2 accounts just for your sanity.
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Is there any way to fully delete all forum posts you've made before?
I have an old account with multiple fully equipped level 200 characters
My I wasn't really that bright in the past, and I did some pretty uhhh "problematic" things so I'm thinking of changing my account name + character names with the old ogrines I have
But then someone could play detective and fuck me over if they see my forum posts
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>>735021802
Because MWAAA the French weaboos.
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I've changed my name so everything disappeared but I'm still not trusting it since when I click on other dudes it shows their messages
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Pandora a cute.
Still annoyed we got juggalo eliatropes instead of dimensional voyagers as a class
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>>735021632
Please post a SINGLE webm of this MMO.
I have never EVER seen the actual gameplay of this fucking game
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>>735022771
but that's spanish...
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>want to play game
>can't be a level 1 sadida getting railed over a table in astrub
shame
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How did the French manage to make the best MMORPG of 2026?
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>>735038164
>in his mind, everything will be undone if he succeeds so his cause is just

His exact explanation is "If I succeed, my crimes are undone, and if I don't succeed, I don't care if the world survives or not." And he's totally aware that his giant time machine could perhaps destroy reality itself in attempting to rewind time by centuries with the cube's juice.
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What are the main differences between Wakfu and Dofus anyway? I played Dofus as a kid and then Wakfu as an adult and the latter was dead and boring, but at that point I didn't remember Dofus enough to compare the two
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>>735041637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwA7Yp1ibvI
here, one of the hardest bosses on the highest difficulty level
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>>735041934
What is with this series and feet?
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>>735041637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBWe3uVbJxQ
Not the other anon but this is for solo content you'd usually do
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>>735041956
Dofus is the successor to Ankama's original Dofus (now Dofus Retro) and Wakfu was supposed to be the successor to Dofus. It takes place in the future, and the are much more MMORPG and RPG mechanics, which feels like it a detriment at times (especially given how much they've been reworked). For instance, I feel (only played to lv60 years ago) Wakfu overwhelms you with how many stats there are in comparison to Dofus. There's things like a Berserk stat! There's side and rear resistances (so where you face matters), and Wakfu points to manage.
For MMO mechanics, they literally wanted players to populate the world, to the point where you plant monsters and trees and stuff, and there's politics.

Overall I consider Dofus better. Why? Because it simply has had many more years to develop and refine its formula. Dofus was built on Dofus Retro, and refined over more years. Wakfu was designed with a very different mindset. For instance, Dofus lacks the traditional MMORPG class trinity in design. No one in Dofus really cares to search for healers, tanks or DPS, whereas Wakfu is much more focused on this design philosophy.

Dofus also has much more content, and the world is considered "larger". Which makes sense, because the Wakfu world is literally Dofus, after an apocalyptic flood that surrounded and submerged everything in water.

Overall, Dofus is the golden-goose starchild game, Wakfu is considered the lessor, despite it trying to be the successor.
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>>735042402
I can't get into those games because in order to be this good solo you need leveling which takes a load of time then you need rare items that also require fuckloads of time and you need to minmax everything to get them.
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>>735042518
Time isn't the problem, the problem is how much you're willing to do the same thing over and over.
Before quitting the game I reached 230 by doing the same thing (dimensional rifts) solo, over and over.
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>>735042495
Wakfu has more content than Dofus when you trim the fat (retarded fetch quests which Dofus has an infinite amount of)
Dungeons and raid bosses? Wakfu has more.
I mean you've played basically the tutorial and quit the game so your opinion is a little uninformed.
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>>735042495
>they literally wanted players to populate the world, to the point where you plant monsters and trees and stuff, and there's politics.
And notoriously people hated it, because players would just show up, exterminate everything and never replant monsters or ressources.
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>>735042982
Does Wakfu even have the equivalent to Dofus? Where the Dofus quest lines give story, structure, direction, and reward you with natural chase items critical to creating builds?

Do you deny Wakfu has more of a MMORPG-trinity philosophy behind it?
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>>735043001
And Kama minting, which is pretty outrageous. In contrast to Dofus, where they managed to create an economy without it or conventional sell-items-for-gold.
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>>735043001
Chiming in
I replanted stuff, always tried to leave an area with more stuff planted than it had when I got there if I could.
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>>735043314
It was apparently removed.
Another example of a 'new' Wakfu mechanic that was supposed to be innovative, being removed.
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>>735043106
Yes Wakfu has main quests and the eggs
>Do you deny Wakfu has more of a MMORPG-trinity philosophy behind it?
It only has that if you're a reductionist, there's more than 3 roles in Wakfu, which is obviously not a "trinity"
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>>735022129
I'm sorry to hear this anon, next time try making your Pokopia thread on /vp/ where it will take longer to reach the archive because it's a dead board with only schizos and coomers left
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Did anyone else find Yugo falling in love with Amelia completely random? Like I don't mind them being together but in the first two season they barely have any moments.

Only fun moment I remember is when the crew was on the ship and Amelia threaten to kill herself and jump off the ship if Yugo decided to go after who was picking them off and he thought she was being annoying as fuck
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>>735043563
He grew up into a hot twink
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Qilby did nothing wrong.
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>>735022023
Frivolous reports are bannable. Not liking something isn't grounds for removal.
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>>735044046
such attire for a lass
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>>735044035
Besides betraying and killing loads of people including his own?
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>>735044292
is that pyramid in the game?
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Robo fogs are cool and Its a shame that ankama never use them outside the game. Speaking of robofogs,
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>>735045298
*speaking of robofogs, how much did they change recently?
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>>735044278
I can't believe their ears are fake
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I honestly wish Wakfu functioned more like Diablo or WoW instead of this drab turn-based stuff.

Quilby did nothing wrong btw.
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>>735043106
I'm not >>735043415 but Wakfu does indeed has more than the trinity.
Some dungeons require characters dedicated to a single specific dedicated role, unrelated to damage.
The reason being each character has a limited amount of resources they can use per turn, which means they can only do so much on their turn.
This is even more so when shit hits the fan. Unless of course you're a character like Pandawa or pre-rework Feca, both which can do positioning/support while also tanking (just by virtue of having high resistance, HP and tanking passives).
A healer can also support, for example. But when bosses enter that phase/turn where it needs to work exclusively as a mobile intensive care unit, who will be the support?
Buddy, sometimes I'm forced to use my Sacrier as a positioner just because there's no one else to do the job.
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>>735042171
The game can't decide if it's sword and sorcery barbarian fantasy or not
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>>735042495
>Wakfu overwhelms you with how many stats there are in comparison to Dofus.
As someone who's new to it right now I definitely feel this, levelling HP or HP%, Critical or Critical% etc.
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>>735043364
Bit late to introduce new stuff when everyones gone.
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>>735042495
>No one in Dofus really cares to search for healers, tanks or DPS, whereas Wakfu is much more focused on this design philosophy
I can't say anything for Dofus since I haven't played it.
But for Wakfu it just depends on how well people know the content, and how confident they are in their strategies.
You can play using characters without revival spells just fine.
You can also play without healers as long as you have supports that can give armor.
You don't need many DPT, you just need one single dude that can kill people.
Tanks? You're fine without them as long as everyone has reasonable resistances or positioning/teleport/movement tools. Rather, anyone can be a tank as long as they have the right stats.
The so called "trinity" is just for convenience.
Damage dealers? They either have self-healing, life steal or healing spells to use in a clutch.
The most important role in Wakfu is outsite the trinity.
If you look at lategame/endgame dungeon leaderboards you will almost see one class: Pandawa. And if you ask anyone in endgame the reason why, they will all give you the same answer.
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I decided to check wakfu since forever, the new UI reminds me of dofus
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>>735044035
>only person who keeps his memories as he reincarnates over and over
I would go insane too from shear boredom
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>>735025030
The storyboard leaks
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>>735024212
for me it was anything past season 2, first 2 seasons had that sovlful feeling of adventure that eventually lead up to the confrontation with big bad, OVA onwards just turned it into french DBZ
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It feels very uncomfortable playing with empty passive slots because there isn't anything really good to use
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>>735041934
By making the best mmorpg of 2006
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>>735045548
Ankama actually had a top-down Wakfu hack n slash game in development at one point, it was called Slage or something. Got cancelled.
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Ankama new games are shitty because they use this weird uncanny 3D
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>>735048380
Isnt it still going too?
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>>735021764
everything they tried didn't catter to normalfag and flopped so now they have been serving the slop they want for 15 year
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>>735048476
Most of em aren't upgrades if they don't compliment your build or play style
Feel free to have empty slots
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>>735049539
>>735049640
Also because they're incompetent at making functional games and their lore and art style carries them.
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Worldbuilding aside, Wakfu was also carried a bit by Xavier/XaGueuzav/xa-xa-xa, the artist for the early Wakfu stuff. Unique, sexy as hell, and just really good in general at bringing the world to life. Likewise, Dofus was carried by Tcho, who also has a really good artstyle. I think both still take work from Ankama but the old stuff can't be beat.

Worth watching Season 4? Also Dofus movie 2 when?
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Take me back bros
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u4k-eYT5gAw
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>>735043443
>because it's a dead board with only schizos and coomers left
But enough about /v/
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>make a really cool fantasy universe that actually feels pretty unique with beautiful art

>do next to nothing with it for decades
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>>735050989
Europeans just don't have the hustle
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>>735050989
They did a lot with it just in France
hon hon hon
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>>735024393
>fantasy language is just the latin alphabet and words translated 1:1

Lame and lazy trope. Who, besides Tolkien, did better than this?
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>>735043563
>Did anyone else find Yugo falling in love with Amelia completely random?
It's called having a working dick (aka puberty), something the modern audience cant relate with
the big-assed-latina whore only likes him because it's a cartoon aimed at teens tho
>>735044183
best girl didnt deserve to be the biggest cuck in the series
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Tips for solo dofus? Also would sacrier or cra be better for an absolute noob who only played wakfu up to the second island many, many years ago?
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>>735052975
Sacrier is said to be top-tier before level 200 and then start crying a bit inside by end-game stuff.
Cra is brain-dead easy, is the most common class, but will slap.
>tips
Join the /vm/ guild. Consider all classes. If you're just a tourist who will play for a month at most Sacrier/Cra are perfectly fine. If you play longer you may tire of them more quickly due to their simpler playstyles (though effective) (Cra is boring in my opinion).

Sub fee is cheap anyways so you can give it a solid try for a week before dipping IMO.
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>>735052975
cra is so simple a literal toddler could play it, it's not that great at soloing though
sac isn't much harder and it's better at soloing
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>>735053267
For 1-150 it doesn't matter much, both will do the same work. I'd say Sacrier is worse at solo'ing in comparison though pre-100. By 150-199, with solid gear, Sacrier should definitely be better. By 200 (you'll probably quit before then) Cra is better due to end-game being more ranged focus.
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>>735024527
>AAA
I hope you like ubisoft towers and uncompressed textures
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>>735022023
you will never be a janny ahahaha
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>>735022214
the wannabe - imagine that you are not even good enough to do it for FREE
Your services are a net negative LOL



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