Eyes… eyes… I need more eyes…
He never said that
ni-eye-ce to see you
>>735032401Incorrect https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ISHGRDJ2M&pp=ygUWd2lsbGVtIGJvc3MgYmxvb2Rib3JuZQ%3D%3D
>>735032256Master Whilhelm was a moron
>>735032816Nah he was right all along. Laurence was the idiot in this scenario.
imagine not fearing the old blood
>>735032256What the fuck was he?
>>735032560>cut>unusedSo he was correct.
Grand ass iceGrand ass ice
>>735032905He was a senile lumenwood (confirmed in the dlc) pushing his body beyond its limits. The game points to him already being dead. The fungus on his back is based on cordyceps fungi that takes over the minds of insects and turns them into zombies. When you put on the mushroom or cauliflower head you’re basically allowing yourself to be taken over by something.
>>735032993Nah. He’s just chilling now. The dlc confirms that Byrgenwerth was mad for collecting eyes on the inside. Willem is a lumenwood like the player, except he’s just totally checked out. Probably the end fate of all lumenwoods.
EYES TO EYESAYESS TO AYESS
Blood without Insight = mindless beast on a rampage Insight without Blood = motionless and lethargic vegetable
>>735033345ASS TO ASS
>>735033345>>735033602Lmao
>>735033579Seeing as the chair is filled with werewolves and brainsuckers, I am not sure they are doing any better.
>>735032993STOP CALLING IT CUT CONTENT.It's "UNDISCOVERED CONTENT" asshole. ACTUAL GAME DEVS have spent their BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS in making a hidden game inside Bloodborne, and you dismiss it as cut content!!YOU ARE THE ASSHOLE. AND I AM THE CURE. I SUED FROM SOFTWARE FOR THIS
>>735034072Those werewolves have blue eyes. Probably a slightly different variant or process. Brainsuckers are surgical victims or perhaps what happens when phantasms take over the brain completely. Or both. Probably both.
>>735032560I guess that makes sense.We are trapped in the Night of the Hunt, but I guess Master Willem has been since the post rom ritual partially failed.
>>735034154>I SUED FROM SOFTWARE FOR THISCongratulations Nora. You are as of now the only FROM nerd to sue FROM.
>>735032256Eye for an eye?
>>735034185Willem realized that maxing your insight score beyond the maximum turned you into a fat and retarded spider, so he did it to poor Rom instead, to stall the blood moon.
>people still haven't found Guidance 3
>>735032256Just how many factions were there in Bloodborne? Who the Hell was Micolash with? Was the School of Mensis just a suicide cult that split off from the Choir?
It’s a theme in fromsoft games that magic makes you retarded.Senpou monks? Retards. (“Infecting myself with zombie worms? What could go wrong!”)Yharnam scholars? Retards. (“Infecting myself with ghostly slugs? What could go wrong!”)Raya Lucarians? Retards. (“Infecting myself with alien rocks? What could go wrong!”)
>>735034398I like to think that Micolash was just some autistic student who became the host of the nightmare. Nobody else is around. He is the mummified corpse you come across in the hidden village. He lives in the dream now. Waking him up is death.
>>735032256>put pointless npc that does nothing and you can kill him and nothing happensbravo
>>735034518HIGHLY autistic yes; there is no other explanation for his oooOOOOooooOoo’ing
>>735032256Take the mask off bitch
>>735034570He came across as a massively important figure, too. Even the Church and Choir revere him. They dedicated their outfits to him. He was probably a legendary lecturer years back. To dress him up like the holy pope of learning.
>>735034518Yeah but he wasn't a lone corpse. There were lots of cage-heads supposedly following his lead.
>>735034398Micolash Cage was an actor
Lance McDonald stopped posting bloodborne "Cut content" videos because he found the hidden game, and FROM swore him to secrecy.Take my words carefully, anons. DO NOT TAKE THE VOW OF SILENCE. IT IS A CURSE. DO NOT TAKE THE "BRAVE SACRIFIRCE"
>>735032256>YAG SBARRO
>>735034398fromsoft loves School of One type groups that either never had many members, or all but the one guy you fight is already deadwhen you cna become a "faction" by just going off on your own for a while it's not a high bar
>>735034643Yeah but where are they now? Clearly Micolash is the host, not them. Used his headspace to form the dreamscape. Margo is like a parasite.
>>735034398One.There is no real schism. But the game do feature 2 long dead civilizations.
>>735034570so many fucking pointless npcs in this game too
>>735034676The lady guarding Willem is even called the ‘Last Scholar’, kek, and she’s wearing Choir gear. Then you have Mensis scholar Damien to summon in the same area. Clearly there is a fight to the death over who can be hailed as the last scholar. There can be only one! *unsheathes sword*.
>>735034729>But the game do feature 2 long dead civilizations.It’s really just the one. All the different labyrinths are just different eras and ages of the Pthumerian race. They’re the ones who built the Labyrinth, period. Even Isz.
>>735034814wait! before you use your blade on me, know this!I am the scholar of self-death, I shall explore the great beyond on a wave of mine own blood!*stabs myself*
>>735034814We can’t forget about Iosefka…
>>735032256Realistically speaking surely 1 big eye would be better than many small eyes
>>735034814>>735034883Kek this game really is funny once you realize that Yharnam is well and truly fucked. 99.99% of the Choir members are either brainsuckers or beasts. 99.99% of the Mensis scholars are dead.
>>735034447its a a primordial theme in western myth as well. alchemy, magic and general occultism generally means sacrificing a lot, including your wits, and it is almost always folly and hubris
https://github.com/Openborne/data/blob/master/fmg/jp/menu/%E4%BC%9A%E8%A9%B1.txt>Over 3,000 lines>You said "It's cut content"fuck off.
>>735035153Western magic was all about uniting with the Godhead. Of course that’s going to involve maturing beyond mere humanity.
I like how the biggest wizards in these games end up petrifying or paralyzing or blinding themselves
>>735035226>Western magic was all about uniting with the Godheadwhich is what they always think is whats gonna happen, but it never works out. just like with king solomon and with the fromsoft magic users.
>>735034875That is assuming Loran isn't the far far future.
>>735035328Don't you wish to sacrifice your eye to the well og Mimir?Or to literally be gallowed to Yggdrasil, in shame, to truly gain power?
>>735034154I don't like this retard with the leaked tripcode pretending to be the schizo. Nora was not acting like this at all, you are a terrible troll fucking nigger.
>>735032560>that rocking chair slamJeez
>>735035328classic mythological concepts>pay a permanent life altering price for knowledge>acquring knowledge changes you/has consequences>being an altered person with abnormal body/sense/perception/thought grants you access to a privileged realm of understandingcoincidentally the most philosophical person I know is a cripple with cerebral palsyhe's also irritating as fuck, difficult to get on with, and uses twenty complex words when ten would suffice, but I wouldn't want him to change
Someone post the 'higher planes of existence' pasta, I've been looking for it for years
>>735035996Yeah I don’t know why they cut his fight.
>>735032256WHAT'S THE POINT OF PACKING ALL THOSE EYES IF YOU AREN'T EVEN GOING TO OPEN THEM?
>>735032256PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE - PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE
>>735036361virgincore music
Why was byrgenwerth so tiny????
>>735035159It's content cut from the game, as games are not given infinite resources or time, and they are iterated on frequently. Thank you.
>>735034398Healing Church, Byrgenwyrth and Mensis are the three largest factions.Smaller factions are usually associated with covenants (Executioners, League).Then there are free agents, like Simon.
>>735034727The spiders you see in the Nightmare of Mensis might be Mensis scholars.There are also the goo boys.
>>735038161You see the Mensis scholars all dead in their cage helmets
>>735038239>>735038161A lot of the Mensis scholars became a part of The One Reborn
>>735038239...yes? We were just talking about how Micolash is already dead, but his mind is alive in the Nightmare. The other students seem to have just been batteries/ support roles in the ritual: Micolash takes a central role, but the others took on lesser forms (the spiders).Then there's the Byrgenwyrth Lecture Hall that got sucked in: whatever caused that transformed the scholars, who clearly weren't prepared for it.
>>735038337Not sure about that: the entire village of Yaharghu'ul (or however it's spelled, I'm not checking) was the sacrifice for the One Reborn; the Mensis Scholars were already dead behind the boss arena long before it was summoned.The Mensis ritual and the ritual for the One Reborn seem to have had a long time between them.
>>735038491Spiders might just be his sick fantasies come to life. Or maybe not. Maybe Patches was a Mensis/Byrgenwerth scholar.
>>735038625The One Reborn is some ritual being prepared by the leftover Pthumerian bell ringers. Pthumerians appear to have been employed by the Church, and others.
>>735034813This is why i ultimately decided that Fromsoft are actually complete shit. They could very easily use the gameplay to enhance the story like any normal person would do but instead they lock what should be character interactions or exploration behind paragraphs written on random items.When every NPC in every single game except the first is a static idle animation spouting dialogue whose mouth doesnt move then i cant say the devs are good at making games.
>>735038669Purposely ambiguous to keep people talking, I suppose.>>735038739I think the Pthumerians were a wildcard that every faction could make use of: we see them as Church Enforcers in Lower and Upper Cathedral Ward; there's Pthumerian Giant in the Nightmare Byrgenwyrth Lecture Hall, and Pthumerian kidnappers take you (and at least one member of the Healing Church) to Yaharghul Gaol.They probably all came up before the split between Willem and Lawrence.
>>735038953You can tell that Yharnam trades guns and technology with the degenerated Pthumerians below ground. The ones brought to the surface seem more… mentally fit. Perhaps they want to be a part of proper society again. Not sure.
>>735038847>When every NPC in every single game except the first is a static idle animation spouting dialogue whose mouth doesnt move then i cant say the devs are good at making games.I think it just became a staple for them, and leaving it that way freed them up to focus on things they considered more important.Just have an NPC laugh when their text string is exhausted and the player knows they've reached the end of this part of the questline.
>>735034447gosh, you're retarded
Those hunched back pthumerian mages are funny/cute (“oh he’s just a short dood; oh wait no he’s just crouching!!”).
>>735039045I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense. God knows the ones you see patrolling the streets probably wouldn't want to be stuck with the mad cannibals down below.
>>735039076Rom (the Vacuous, meaning retarded) and her spiders are literally retarded rock heads, just like the retarded rock heads in Elden Ring
>>735039106Their proportions are very unsettling, I think.
imagine if bloodborne had a stable framerate...
>>735039143>God knows the ones you see patrolling the streets probably wouldn't want to be stuck with the mad cannibals down below.Naked rolling fat guys with hammers start to smell
>>735035916i'm using a 4chan pass from 2025 which confirms it's me. the only way someone could still be fake nora is if they know my leaked trip AND bought a 4chan pass last year.>>735038000you will get your just desserts. it's only a matter of time.
>>735039257>no big, fat titty Pthumerian mace girlsMiyazaki's a fucking coward.
I wish they had a fire themed hunter tool; we see fire magic used by the people in the labyrinth but not much on the surface. There’s also something to do with fire and beasts. Rage is like fire? Probably runs in line with the idea of long forgotten and nearly extinct fire magic like in dark souls.
>>735039227
If Oedon is formless then how does he fuck so many bitches?
>>735038847yeah it was a novel and interesting style with games like DeS and DS1, but got kinda sick with it after Bloodborne and DS3. way too many "Forsoothbeitly, Johannes Blumpbart was effluvially departed within the Grave Void... So much for the effervescent Splungos...! Hehehehehe.......!" moments and just got sick of the one trick pony style. Also, as you said, the over-reliance on item descriptions and literal cut content for the storytelling is insanely annoying
>>735039227it does on emulators now
>>735039106I hate them. Their spells are like a mix of combustion and soul sorcery. It damages you even before it flies towards you. I’ve died to them so many times thinking I can run up to them and kill them before they cast anything. The moment the fire/magic appears on screen it does damage to you.
>>735039459>not playing on original hardwareit's not the same
unbelievable that you cant get this swag headgear in the game. really wanted to look like these guys
>>735039383Are these meant to be little Ebrietas larvae? Was Ebrietas born to a human mother?
I love bloodborne but there’s basically no point discussing overly specific lore as it was cut and rearranged so much most stuff has no intentional placement
>>735039520I find their black eyes creepy. Incredible how some people don’t think they’re even Pthumerian when they clearly are.
>>735039520just mod it in yourself, bro
>>735039507literally who gives a fuck
>>735039584>tries to cosplay Alucard>looks more like THE SPANISH INQUISITION
>>735039545This. Like all of From’s games, what gets cut is sadly pivotal to what could have been. It’s a lot more interesting than what we get. Ebrietas was Kos originally for fuck’s sake. That’s what Micolash meant when he said Kos gave Rom eyes. That’s why Kos/Ebrietas is standing over Rom’s dead body.
>>735039584what the fuck man please put this up on nexus. white version, please!!!
>>735032256>he dosent have a Wilhelm scream deathMissed opportunity
>>735039626lol>>735039678shit I hate talking to people outside this site, I'll have to create a burner account for it
They always change their mind Base game: “It’s all sourced to the labyrinth! Under the ground!”DLC: “It’s all sourced to the fishing hamlet! Under the sea!” Even in Elden Ring. You’re meant to think that Marika betrayed the Eternal. Nope it was an entirely different culture in the dlc.
is cummmfpk canon in the lore?
>>735032256Why are you always going on about eyes, dear?
>>735034398>Was the School of Mensis just a suicide cult that split off from the Choir?Pretty much, yeah. At first it was Byrgenwerth. Then some Byrgenwerth students went to create the Church, which was massively popular. And then some of the students of the Church created the School of Mensis.
>>735039830having a dlc that change what you think about the game is good actually
>>735033127>>735033209Jesus Christ he is literally on the rune
>>735039657I think there’s still a lot of valid lore but Fromsoft really gets autistic analysis where certain types of window sills being repeated means hundreds of youtube videos saying therefore a king was actually having an affair with an alien when the devs were just using assets they had.
>>735040063Nah it’s stupid. It’s basically them never wanting anyone to be correct about anything. >>735040108They reuse architectural assets all the time and yet “lore archaeologists” think it is anything but that.
>>735032256https://youtu.be/_8Gx6AFMJ9U?si=EOnyt0vtnYqrDmSC
>>735040068If that was intentional they actually would have made it match
>>735034154Oh great, the tripnigger is here just kidding, it's obvious this whole thread is you samefagging yourself. Just make sure to remove the trip properly this time, you fucking loser
>>735040182Are you blind? It does match it’s just reversed.
>>735040156>>735040063 (You)> Nah it’s stupid. It’s basically them never wanting anyone to be correct about anything.Are you framing it as fromsoft personally attacking your pet theory, that's like american nigger level of dumb
>>735040262No it doesn't, the stalks are both different in number and order of height. If they wanted to draw such a tiny, specific relation they would have made it identical.
>>735040182It’s pretty much intentional. It’s cordyceps fungus. A parasite that controls the body. The milkweed rune is doing exactly that to the player’s body. They grow a shroom for a head and their dodge animations change to some sort of puppet like style. You are being puppetted by something.
>>735034570I love watching zoomers loke you seethe and shit like this
Imagine being a leader of a prestigious college of scholars and your plan for enlightenment is getting more eyes on your brain.
>>735040343No they wouldn’t have. They always make things not too obvious. It’s obvious just enough. Not too much. >the stalks are both different in number and order of heightLol, you’re being adorably pedantic. It’s clear he’s a lumenwood. Not sure why you’re denying it. The rune shows his likeness.
Do the eyes let you see the apple??
Willem has transcended reality the same way Azur and Lusat have. His body is the shell he left behind.
>>735039281>you will get your just desserts. it's only a matter of time.You're like a shittier Caramel. Do you promise to kill yourself too?
Eyes on the inside refers to the literal parasites inside your brain. They’re also in your eyeballs.
This is much better!
>>735040657Does that count? The Hunter manages to transcend on a physical level in the special ending.
>>735040356>They grow a shroom for a head and their dodge animations change to some sort of puppet like style. You are being puppetted by something.This is genius since you’re already controlling the character
>>735040476I think if they wanted a comparison in something so small and specific they would have made it exact. Otherwise they’re already making something obscure even moreso.
>>735039530No, they're children transformed by the Choir to try and create a Great One.>>735034398At first there was Byrgenwerth. They discovered the labyrinth beneath Yharnam and brought back Old Blood to the surface. In their search of the divine, they also raided the Fishing Hamlet to search for clues about Kos. Willem wanted to use eyes/insight to ascend humanity, and warned against using Old Blood.Laurence, a student of Willem, decided to use the Old Blood recovered for medicinal purposes, and founded the Healing Church. He became its first Vicar, and the first Cleric Beast when the beastly source within the Old Blood transformed him. His mind was eventually drawn into the Nightmare, while his body descended underground into the labyrinth.Some of the Healing Church Hunters discovered the Great Isz region of the labyrinth, and made contact with Ebrietas there, drawing her to the surface. This faction of the Healing Church became the Choir, the group dedicated to creating their own Great One. They're the source of the alien freaks in the woods, and eventually succeeded with the Celestial Emissary.Another group of Healing Church scholars took after Willem's teachings more and founded the School of Mensis, seeking to either create their own Great One, or to make contact with another, and made contact with Mergo. Mergo was eager to help and granted the Mensis scholars the insight they requested, but Mergo can't control his own power, and the insight overloaded the Mensis scholars' brains and killed most of them. Micolash, their leader, was drawn into the Nightmare as its host, his own body expired. The School of Mensis and the Choir are arch-rivals, and will actively attack one another.Iosefka was likely a Mensis scholar who defected. Her blood is found in Mergo's Loft, which is the territory of Mensis. The fake Iosefka is a Choir member, backstabbing Iosefka and turning her into a Celestial Minion.
>>735040819That’s because you the player partake of both blood and insight. See >>735033579
>>735040910>No, they're children transformed by the Choir to try and create a Great OneOne is literally born to a human female. It’s pointing to that being their origin. The orphans became the Choir and their goal was to create a celestial emissary.
>>735040668i don't care about how i'm perceived. i only care for exposing the truth. the truth is there IS IN FACT A HIDDEN GAMEthe only thing standing between you and the truth besides your own hesitation to make a leap of faith (What's the leap of faith? The decision to believe something because of HINTS rather than EVIDENCE)...is the vow of silence japanese game developers are sharing on this particular secret.
>>735040901>>>735040476 (You) #I think if they wanted a comparison in something so small and specific they would have made it exactIt’s more or less exact if you aren’t being an autistic person. >Otherwise they’re already making something obscure even moreso.It’s less obscure. The dlc more or less confirms that Willem was a lumenwood. Again, the rune looks more like him than not. It’s possible it’s the normal form the fungus takes.It’d be more weird and less realistic if it directly matched up. It’s clearly supposed to be a vague reflection. But not too vague.
>>735039619zoom zoom
>>735040910Isoefka is actually a part of the Choir, which is a peer to Mensis. Likely shared in their research.
>>735040989Yeah that one's an infant Great One. There isn't just one way to create those slugs. >The orphans became the Choir and their goal was to create a celestial emissary.No, and I have no idea how you came to this conclusion. The orphanage in the Upper Cathedral Ward was the source of the Celestial Children; the Choir was experimenting on them. Yurie in Byrgenwerth is a Choir member, and there's a tortured and dead Choir member in Yahar'gul.
>>735040657I read this as "William"
>>735041239>No, and I have no idea how you came to this conclusionIt’s both. The items state that the earliest orphans became the earliest members of the Choir. The Choir is literally trying to turn people into celestial emissaries in the dlc.This is all quite explicit. Iosefka is of the Choir. Yes they use orphans but they’re also using adults.
>>735041207No, she's of Mensis' stock. The School of Mensis and the Choir did not get along, they fought for control of the Healing Church.
>>735041362>No, she's of Mensis' stockNope. Mensis wasn’t interested in creating celestial emissaries. Iosefka is even wearing the Choir gear.Are you the same guy who just repeats wrong lore as a form of spam?
>>735041239>There isn't just one way to create those slugs. We haven’t seen any other origin point for them. >>735041362>The School of Mensis and the Choir did not get alongEven still. Both descend from Byrgenwerth. Both revere Willem.
>>735041425Are you confusing the fake Iosefka with the real one? There's two Iosefkas. The first one, who hands you her blood, has no interest in creating Celestial Minions. She's likely a defected Mensis scholar. The impersonator turned the real one into a Celestial Minion, and does so for anyone else you send her way as well. She is a Choir member. This isn't really hard to understand.
>>735041239Did you just not play the DLC or something
>>735041539Ah. I see your just a troll. I was never once talking about the actual Iosefka, and the actual Iosefka is just a regular Church healer not an insane Mensis cage wearing scholar.
>>735041643>yourYou’re* (dumb autocorrect kys)
>>735041574????>>735041643>Ah. I see your just a troll.You lack reading comprehension. How typical of a phoneposter.>and the actual Iosefka is just a regular Church healer not an insane Mensis cage wearing scholar.I would agree with you if Iosefka's blood wasn't found at the top of Mergo's Loft. The only reasonable explanation for that is Iosefka used to be a Mensis scholar, then defected to try and help the rest of Yharnam. She's not the only one, Defector Antal is a former Mensis Hunter as well.
>>735041539If Iosefka saw Mergo her brain would’ve been stillborn
>>735041825>I would agree with you if Iosefka's blood wasn't found at the top of Mergo's Loft1. Mensis was once connected to the greater city. The hidden village is just a hidden part of Yharnam. 2. Iosefka has one of the largest clinics and is a highly successful healer; it’s not at all far fetched to assume that people purchased her blood. Everyone was buying it. More than alcohol. >The only reasonable explanation for that is Iosefka used to be a Mensis scholarIt might just have been a part of her curriculum. The academy might not have originally even been a cult until shit went haywire.
>>735041839Not all of the Mensis scholars participated in the ritual. There are Mensis hunters in the Cathedral Ward and Yahar'gul, Antal defected from them, and the Choir was even able to reach the Nightmare of Mensis; Edgar is a Choir member who was sent to spy on Mensis. And it wouldn't make sense for the Choir to experiment on other Choir members instead of civilians or enemy Mensis scholars.>>735041969This seems like a lot of extrapolation without a lot of evidence. Why would the imposter target Iosefka specifically, unless she was already a target?
>>735042256Not the point I was making. But okay.
>>735039678https://www.nexusmods.com/bloodborne/mods/470?tab=filesHere anon, it replaces the White Church HatI don't have the game installed so if something is wrong, do tell
>>735042256>This seems like a lot of extrapolation without a lot of evidenceIt’s actually using all the evidence. That’s literally the origin of the hidden village and the school. >Why would the imposter target Iosefka specifically, unless she was already a target?Because it’s a prime targeting location for hapless victims? Are you stupid? There is no better place. She even asks you to find her more victims. That’s the entire fucking point.
>>735042256>And it wouldn't make sense for the Choir to experiment on other Choir members instead of civilians or enemy Mensis scholars.Really, anon? You know that the brain suckers are surgical abominations right? You know what they did to the orphans right? The dlc even confirms that they were WILLING.
>>735041825Mensis wasn’t all that interested in blood healing just ripping out a certain fetus from a certain undying woman
The timeline is all stretched out. Willem was already old by the time Laurence left Byrgenwerth.
Game needed to be longer
>>735043750Willem could be hundreds of years old for all we know
>>735041097>i only care for exposing the truthNo you don't, you just sit on here babbling on about nothing substantial. You show zero proof to anything you believe in. As I said, shittier Caramel.
Whose theories about Bloodborne hold the most water?
Wait. Is the Milkweed rune a form of suicide lorewise?
>>735032993Cut and unused describes my life
>>735045204>You show zero proofi literally quoted an actual datamine of blooborne that includes the evidence you look forhttps://github.com/Openborne/data/blob/master/fmg/jp/menu/%E4%BC%9A%E8%A9%B1.txtthe problem is when you DO post evidence and hints, they cling to the word "Cut content" to describe it. Why? Because they're so hopelessly dependent on the system and current common sense that they default to that instead of realizing we''ve been playing videogames incorrectly since the Nintendo Entertainment System
>>735045204How did I know you were responding to that schizo just based on the snippet of greentext?
>>735035457>Loran isn't the far far future.What? Never heard of this.
>>735045415>instead of realizing we''ve been playing videogames incorrectly since the Nintendo Entertainment Systemthat's a big blade you got there
>>735033127fun fact, cordyceps doesn't actually take over the brain, it tells the muscles what to do. So you're not a zombie, you're just a helpless passenger in your own body instead. What fun!
>>735040343>>735040476It don't need to be exact, nigga.
>>735034398The Church of Healing and Birgenwerth were opposing schools of thought but the church won because lmao let's give people blood that cures everything, of course they were popular.The Choir and the School of Mensis were factions within the Church of Healing. And we know that these factions had beef with each other because we find a guy with choir garbs locked inside a cage in the cthullu village, so they spied on each other.>as the School of Mensis just a suicide cultConvening with the Great Ones was always their goal. The flesh had no purpose once they wore the head cage and jumped into the dream.
>>735045675Yeah. The phantasms/slugs are what lives in the brain. The fungus (“lumenwood”) is just the medium. Or the food. Or so the Milkweed rune says. The word ‘milkweed’ implies something for caterpillars and butterflies to nibble on.
>>735045935They didn’t really win they just splintered off. The Choir even based their attire on Willem. They clearly venerated his wisdom. “Fear the old blood” became the motto or adage of the Healing Church. You could argue Willem won since he correctly warned against the blood. He’s an enlightened corpse while Laurence is a mindless beast.
>>735046236They won in the sense that the Church controlled the city and the people, while Birgenwerth remained obscured and sealed off.Yes they venerated the guy, but the whole reason for separation was because they didn't wanna fear the blood.
>>735032256The fixation on eyes in particular was so stupid
This board's finished...
>>735045415I like how you say >they cling to itbecause it really enforces how schizo you are over this. You see them as voices in your head.You posted nothing substantial yet again btw
>>735045429Cause he's as predictable as a bot at this point. Tripfag's always end up like this. A derivative of their original character
>>735046317Reminder that Rom is literally retarded. Vacuous means stupid. Willem’s master plan was to ascend a poor woman into tard status to manifest a literal air gap (an air headed creature it is!) in between the insight of the city’s true state, to prevent or at least stall the blood moon ritual.
>>735046320No, it wasn't.The obvious themeing of eyes as wisdom, then the sudden Body Horror reveal of it actually being eyes, combined with all of the creative decisions around enemy design that it permitted, was fantastic.>"We must line our brains with eyes..."Oh, that must be a metaphor for->yes, but also no>here's a grotesque, humanoid fly monster that used to be a man who was mutated by experiments with eyes
>>735046395>You posted nothing substantial yet again btw>3,,000 voiced dialogue>"nothing substantial"the exact thing you are asking for "proof that it's actually in the game" is the exact reason for my lawsuit. this is bullshit. it's TOO HARD to get that proof.hence, the lawsuit to force them to divulge it.
>>735046638>then the sudden Body Horror reveal of it actually being eyesThe connection between eyeballs and the literal slugs/invertebrates in peoples brains was always off to me, until I realized that there’s literally slugs in the blacksky eye. I assume the more insightful the more squirmy the eye. These are the eyes they’re looking for.
What does he eat?Sincerely, what is the source of his sustenance? Genuinely, how does he find nourishment?Earnestly, by what means does he find nutrition?Wholeheartedly, how does he find refreshment?
>>735046918He’s already dead. Numerous items are pointing to this. The fungus is just keeping his corpse with a shred of will.
>>735046918He eats the eyeballs that are in jars all over the school house
>>735046918He swallows slugs and umbilical cords like a madman
Rom is cute Even Miyazaki thinks so
>>735046317CUTE
>>735046806The slugs are augurs/ familiars of Great Ones iirc which is why you can see them on the giant tombstones in Forbidden Woods, erupting from the skull in the icon of Madman's Knowledge, and just being ubiquitous in the environment on the run-up to Kos and Orphan.I guess they might be extradimensional entities that are drawn to this "layer" of existence when Great Ones are near, kind of like that one Lovecraft story "From Beyond".
>>735044673Burgerworth should have been an actual level
Are there any mods that fix the bucket helm clipping horribly on almost every armour set? I like being a cool Ned Kelly hunter but the scarf/cravat thing from the hunters set clipping through the front triggers me
>>735048943They made the interior larger than the exterior LMAO the lecture area was clearly meant to be a part of Byrgenwerth
>>735049513Yeah to some extent the lecture hall and the nightmare frontier are both part of the Byrgenwerth "zone", it just would have been fun to have a whole lovecraft university campus on the shore of the lake with some fucked up science labs and libraries and whatnot. Overall I'm not unhappy with the size of the game, but Byrgenwerth does feel small compared to the rest of the game.
>>735048943>>735049513>>735049870They “fixed” the mistake by having you assume that the nightmare sucked up the larger area—which was most likely once situated on the lake. Was the lake even there originally?
>>735049513Is the interior really larger than the exterior? It didn't feel like it.
The Byrgenwerth estate was probably a different facet of the wider Byrgenwerth curriculum which likely took the form of numerous different buildings throughout the city. If I had to guess, Willem went to the city to give lectures.
>>735050087Um… are you perhaps retarded? You’re probably not thinking of the correct area. The Lecture Building in the Nightmare is a lot longer and much bigger than the Byrgenwerth estate where you fight Rom.
>>735050268Oh, that.I assumed that part was the underground from where the trap doors would lead you.
>>735050313An underground academy would have been cool, too! Not sure why they didn’t use that trap door. They obviously thought about it.
>>735050169Yeah, what we visit is clearly a secluded private residence for Big Willy and not the campus proper, the actual campus seems to have been consumed by the nightmare, at least partially, if the Lecture Hall is anything to go by. I wonder whether the Clocktower area in the DLC is meant to be a part of the Byrgenwerth campus in reality.
>>735050362That trap door has an animation mechanism for opening it, it was meant to be traversible. But there's nothing under it.
>>735050686Yeah and I believe there’s an area in the lecture building where it should have connected. But they opted for it being in the nightmare instead.
>>735036328I eat them. They're delicious. Like grapes, only with a meatier taste.
>>735051912According to Elden Ring they're spicy grapes
>>735046685Kek you forgot to put your trip back on, you stupid schizo freak.
I need a fucking port! Or a remaster at least! I'm tired of 30fps! The pc emulators good yet?
>>735052237If they won’t let me play the original demon souls without purchasing a ps3 then there’s no way they’re going to let you play bloodborne without purchasing a ps4
>>735052237PC emulation is pretty good now. I don't want a remaster, I just want a 60fps patch (and ideally a pc release but that doesn't seem likely)
The game's lore was so much tighter than Souls and Elden Ring
>>735052237>crying about 30fpsYou people don’t deserve Bloodborne
>>735052565Bloodborne deserves the smoothness of 60fps
Someone would say Kosm
can someone give a full timeline of exactly what happened? as i understand it sort of went like thisyharnam was founded above the pthumeru chalice dungeons and they discovered these underground catacombs where the people the built them and lived before were able to contact higher beings and found ebrietas in one of these pthumeru catacombs, and somehow that transitioned into the founding of the healing church where they use ebrietas's blood to heal people but that blood had the side effect of the beastly scourge which is now the time where the player plays the game currentlydid i get that right?
>did a memerun with the stake driver>turns out it is the best weapon in the game>do a memerun with the kos parasite>even with optimal gems it has half damage and I'm not taking advantage of the reach because I've trained on an extremely short-range weaponDisappointing. Maybe I'll just play more stake driver. Doing a fire build and using oil urns before the big charge R2 is so much fun.
>>735052484Eh
>>735052687what about the pthumeru queen and kos and the fishing hamlet and mensis and burgerworth
>>735052775I tried my best to do a 99 Arc run just to set up the Parasite, but trying to beat Orphan with Executioner's Gloves and Augur of Ebrietas is too much. He resists elemental damage to begin with, and, despite probably being Kin, doesn't take extra damage from lightning, so paper and Tiny Tonitrus are useless.RIP.
>>735053029Nah, he's right.Elden Ring may have "tight" lore, in that it hangs together very well, but it's so broad and disorganised. Very inelegant.Bloodborne is much more focused and coherent.
>>735053130Just convert any weapon to arc scaling as fire or bolt and whack him a bunch, his elemental def isn't that high
>>735053208ER is definitely much more sweeping. Bloodborne has like 5 relevant characters in the lore, it is extremely focused.
>>735053208> Bloodborne is much more focused and coherentLOLEbrietas was Kos once; some say Kosm
>>735053359This sort of last minute switching of characters happens in every From game, it is just as true in ER or any of the Souls games. BB has much less of that than DS3 which essentially had a randomiser applied to it a week before launch.
>>735053095Fishing Hamlet was before the Church began in earnest, iirc, since it was Gehrman and Maria, the first Hunter and his apprentice, that were sent to investigate Kos.Byrgenwyrth predates the Church, as the schism between Willem (eyes) and Lawrence (blood) is what lead to the founding of the Healing Church and, subsequently, its order of Hunters.Mensis were, I think, a splinter of The Choir, the elite of the Healing Church who were doing hardcore delving into the arcane: The Choir had its "Orphanage", Mensis had Yaharghul.As for Queen Yharnam, it's a little unclear. IIRC, Mergo's umbilical cord can be found in the Lecture Hall in the Nightmare, so we can assume Byrgenwyrth has some contact with her. She likely never dies, if the key item you get for beating her is any indication, so it's hard to say where on the timeline exactly she had her child stolen (she's wearing manacles, and her dress is covered in blood from the waist down: Byrgenwyrth probably ripped Mergo from her womb).
Best girl coming through
>>735053462Bloodborne is all over the place. They didn’t even know what to do with Byrgenwerth lol.
>>735053612Given the mechanic of Ebriatis' shrine reversing time on the Vileblood Queen's flesh and resurrecting her I think we're supposed to infer that something similar is involved with sustaining the Pthumeru Queen given that Ebriatas was also from the Chalice Dungeons.
>>735053619Sailor (Scholar?) Moon!
>>735052687yeah pretty much t
>>735053661It is only all over the place compared to conventional story-telling, compared to the rest of the Soulsborne catalogue it is very coherent, though I suppose less so now that Sekiro and AC6 have come out both with much more conventional storytelling
>>735053781Perhaps. Annalise is clearly meant to be a parallel to Yharnam, although it's hard to know what's metaphorical/ thematic, and what's literal.Neither can ever really die, at least.Both are slated to give birth to a special child.
Elden Ring: feminism Bloodborne: misogyny
>>735039507>it's not the sameNo, that's the point. It's betterHaven't touched my PS4 since, and there are very cool mods like project beast.Let's be honest BB story is a fucking mess
>>735039657Agree, actually just think about lorence headless beast body on ebrietas room. All full of red blood, the literal blood of the church. Head on the altar, body hidden underground.Same for the shadow of that am and the intended evolution of the people going against the church as the night goes on. It really bothers me, specially on BB. It could have been so fucking good if not for the constant rewriting and changing things because of le mystery and interpretation.
>>735039507yeah it has a stable framerate
>>735055171I think the story is pretty good and pretty simple. What is so messy about it apart from the Old Gods being (obviously intentionally) vague?
Why is the pkg for Bloodborne so hard to find? I can find Nintendo Switch roms everywhere and those are supposedly shut down like crazy.
>>735055490Lorence, ebrietas, that am shadows, the dracula castle...It's random, there is no connection. It's 99% speculation trying to fit the 50th rewrite and 100th character out of place. Just look at the dlc
Logarius was originally meant to be the king of Cainhurst
>>735055870I can see that
>>735055870Is that surprising given that he's sitting on a throne and wearing a crown?
>>735032256I feel like not letting him speak more was a missed opportunity. One of the most important figures in history reduced to drooling and pointing his stick at the moon. He doesn't even do anything during the pale moon
Iosefka was initially gonna be mergos nurse
>>735056280Really? Cute.
>>735056240He WAS originally meant to speak. There’s a whole ass line of dialogue for him. He was even meant to be a major boss. Some sort of levitating eyeball summoner. There was a bug with the eyeball that caused the game to crash and they didn’t bother fixing it.
>>735032560FUCKING FROM WHYYYY
>>735056347Where can I see more? :(
>>735056525It is just how they develop games, they're too ambitious and 20% or so of content ends up incomplete and cut and there's often a last minute shuffling of completed content to account for the holes this causes.
>>735056626Someone posted the video at the top of the thread
>>735056673It's on that one? Neat!
>>735056347It was half done. But yeah they were lazy did not finishing it.
Weird old man
>>735039507The PS3 was the last Sony console where hardware mattered. The PS4 and PS5 are just normal PCs.
>>735032560i can see why his dialogue was cut, it sounds like a priest hitting on a choir boy
>>735034398>Just how many factions were there in Bloodborne?4, one for each of the adult Great Ones you can meet. It only looks like there's more because they are waging proxy wars against each other.>Who the Hell was Micolash with?Mensis. He thought he was allied with Kos, but he was used to lead (You) in to the Nightmare where Flora's kid was to kill her.>Was the School of Mensis just a suicide cult that split off from the Choir?It was probably founded by Mensis directly. Their situation is probably similar to Micolash's.
>>735056240Bloodborne is 2/3 finished because they had two other teams working on two Dark Souls sequels.
Bloodborne's worldbuilding is the best out of all the soulsnigger games. The second and third are dark souls and demon's souls. The rest are all fucking asshole shit liquid. Yes, that includes elden meme which is possibly the worst of them all.
>>735034398You pretty much got it.The School of Mensis is part of the Healing Church, but they're a radical sect that operates without Choir oversight.
Is The One Reborn Mensis' attempt to create an artificial Great One?
>Byrgenwerth = Virgin Birthwell how bout that
>>735039383He's the mercury in your blood.
>>735032256Why do people always want the story to make complete sense, be fully explainable, have a clear A-B-C-D-E structure, otherwise it's perceived as bad poorly written garbage?
>>735060093Twin Peaks is just lolrandumb with supernatural bits, Souls games on the other hand have no story to speak of with the exception of Sekiro.
>>735055870Logarius' internal name is "Reaper of the King". He was able to kill the king but then realized the queen was immortal and had to usurp the king's position to hide Cainhurst away from the world.
>>735045241Compared to something like Elden Ring there really aren't that many divergent theories about Bloodborne. It is thankfully pretty straight-forward to interpret.
>>735061025Most of the "what happened" questions in BB are fairly straightforward, and the confusion comes from "what does that mean", whereas a lot of the confusion in ER starts at the "what happened" level
>>735060093They don't fromsoft games just have a dogshit story that wouldn't make sense even if they didn't fragment it into incomprehensible niggerbabble.
>>735034154How do i downvote this post? You a such a redditnigger. Fucking namefag
>>735053130>despite probably being kinHe isn't kinFunny how the game gives you a big anti-kin gem right before the fight get trolled lmao
>>735063746Classic From bullshit. There's no reason he shouldn't be kin.
What kind of specs do you need to get bloodborne running well on pc?
>>735064640It's shrimps anon, kin are ascended humans that became ayylmaos...who knows why ebrietas and the centipedes count as kin>>735065212I think it even runs on a steam deck I ran it on 5700G + 2070S just fine
>>735065212yeah, its playable on a steam decki beat it like 5 times on my poorfag rig, though shadps4 has some issues with intel cpus, but not all of them
insight = inner sight = eyes on the insideget it?
>>735065536plant eyes on our brains to cleanse our beastly idiocy!
What do we think of the Bloodborne translation project? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NKkhAVz338xavCMiHplN--qxQG63K5kpBFDsbNUlg5g/edit?gid=0#gid=0Its kinda cool to get some context
