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Fuck you, I like it
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>Fuck you, I like it
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>>735036658
Mogged by Slay the Spire 2
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>>735036658
Its a Designer's Republic™ out there.
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>>735036658
It’s probably better than Destiny 2
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Stop shill this niche gaas
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>>735036807
Completely different game, no playerbase competition.
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>>735036658
enjoy while it lasts, anon
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>>735036871
And yet mogged all the same. Sad!
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>>735036658
Yeah, me too.
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Marathon seems likely to be one of those games that start weak but climb in players over time as people realize that the game is fun, see others play it, and give it a try themselves. The entry level is steep, so it requires some times before people give it an honest try
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>>735037059
and you're basing this off the daily loss of thousands of players?
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>>735037059
the game lost 10k players in a week, not concord but it's not acceptable for a developer like bungie
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>>735037059
>The entry level is steep
And it's Bungie's fault. I've had to watch a tutorial on YouTube to find out how the consumables work, and I'm the kind of guy who reads items descriptions. Imagine what the average player's experience is like. This game needs a shooting range and per-shell tutorials so that you aren't risking your gear without even knowing how to properly use it.
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Siege was dead because it had 80,000 concurrent. Helldivers II is the most popular game in the world because it has 40,000 concurrent. The Finals is respectably niche because it has 20,000. Marathon is dead because it has 55,000 concurrent.

All of this shit is so stupid bro.
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>>735037460
the important thing here is budget and marathon had a bigger one than all of those
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>>735036658
That's fine. People still love their babies when they're born with terminal heart defects too.

Doesn't change their fate.
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>>735037460
It's stupid to you bc you don't understand what you're talking about.
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>>735037690
/v/'s finest quant is here for a financial analysis, god bless
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One of the best PVPVE games to come out in a while. Having a blast and even when I lose, it feels earned. The 25 min timer is great to unwind after work without a too-lengthy commitment. Real shame the internet seems intent on disparaging the game and saying it’s bad. It’s not at all. The developers should be proud of what they’ve achieved since last year.
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I've been almost strictly solo queuing and I've had a blast so far. I'm a pretty casual player and don't normally play extraction shooters. The PVP is intense, the games design, art, and lore are cool, and it has run very smoothly for me. I'm looking forward to playing more!
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>>735037879
>>735037929
>pretending to le shill to ruin game discussion
What a sad life.
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Easily the most fun I’ve had on a multiplayer shooter in the last decade. I will admit I am a big Bungie fan, but this is a genuinely great game even with my bias aside. They could tweak some things to make the loot a bit more recognizable quickly, and I’d love for them to let me see my teammates objectives, but the fundamental core gameplay of this game is a blast. I have 45 hours already and I think about the game all day.
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>>735037460
Marathon not breaking 100,000 concurrent players on steam charts day 1 is a definite bad sign. It's probably not going to be shut down in a month. but it's definitely going to need a major course correction by the end of this year or it's toast.
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>>735036658
It's okay but I was enjoying it more in the first few days when there was the illusion of getting good loot just by playing regularly, before I realized that loot was all gated behind events meant for coordinated trios and how retarded the rep grind would be to unlock anything above greens in the armory
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>>735037460
these games a multiple years old while marathon is a week old and still pulling worse numbers while having a higher budget
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>>735036658
CRYO ARCHIVE WHEN?

also am i gonna need an item to get in? I saw people getting Marathon keys but i dunno wtf those are.
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>>735038050
would any kind of course correction even help I'm pretty sure the damage is done
they didnt stick the landing
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I'm having a blast!
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>highlighting loot containers so you don't have to search + skipping shit white ones
>grappling hook for free movement
>putting explosives on my FPV drone and hunting down the kuffars in the name of holy jihad
Thief is for me, how can other shells even compete?
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>>735037214
The UI is abject ass. The look and feel are okay, but reading and interacting is complete fucking shit.
They need to fire the people responsible and apply themselves.
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>>735038359
Unironically a skill issue. Learn to read zoom zoom
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>>735036658
The more I play the less I like it. Loot is useless, you will die incredibly fast even with purple shields, you will never have the feeling of being a walking tank like a million rubles kit does on tarkov, so I literally have no reason to not just go in with Mida's free kit, everything extra like heals can be get from killing other players, the game plays like an arena shooter with extra steps. The PvE is a nightmare, especially solo, and there's no reason to deal with the convoluted puzzles and events, if you hear someone shooting at the endless waves of bullet sponge robots just wait for them to come battered at the extraction and get everything for free, again, not like it matters but a least you ruin someone's day and hoarding everything in my stash and never using them is fun in its own way. The missions are ball busting torture, just running around the map multiple times doing errands
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>>735038594
Not him but the UI does have functionality issues that aren't because of stylization
>some buttons require you to click
>others to long click
>some use Space
>some need to be held down, some don't
it's inconsistent and annoying, there's friction everywhere
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>>735036658
Me too. It's a shame that I'll never be able to properly discuss this game on /v/.
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>>735038110
cryo archive at the end of the month. you will need the key you get from killing the tox warden in outpost afaik. It will be a more pvp focused map from what ziegler said on twitter, with a hard pve boss apparently.
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>>735038681
if feels like they tried to make a UI accessible for both pc and console and failed miserably
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>>735036658
Then you should go play it blast haver
Why are you here :)
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The number one thing I've learnt by interacting with Marathon haters is how confidently stupid some people are. Some people will act like they know more about the game's industry than the people actually working in it, and will practically celebrate their own ignorance
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>>735037460
(YOU)
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>>735038672
I unironically sell all the blue and purple guns I get from other players, they waste space and I'll never use them anyway, a grey bully and the wstr are everything you need
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>>735038918
If you actually cared about Video Games you would support this.
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>>735037460
siege pulled bigger numbers 10 year after release then marathon did at week 1, and it also was a game with probably a tenth of the budget and a side project for ubislop
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>>735038850
The best way to control it is with the mouse, but only with the mouse - and that's extremely fucking asinine. On console, the cursor moves too slowly with the controller and it insists you do almost everything with the cursor and the left analog stick.
The logical shortcuts would be to use the dpad for quicker/ more efficient navigation, but they only reserve that for stuff like tab switching or sliders. I genuinely want to kneecap the people responsible for the UI.
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Another shitty extraction game with 0 focus on loot so it just turns into another 1 life shooter with handholding revive mechanics while you do runs for 1.5% increased gear that actually has 0 effect on the game and player agency. So far tarkov is the only game to get extraction shooters right and the game is fucking dogshit.
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>>735039135
>If you actually cared about Video Games you would support this
(YOU)
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>>735038681
Yeah there's a lot of weird inconsistencies with click drags too
>you can click and drag an implant to a slot to equip it but you have to get it almost perfectly over the slot
>you can click and drag a modification onto any part of the gun slot and it will apply but if you drag it too far over to the mod area it again needs to be perfectly over the correct slot
It's needlessly precise and shitty as the only alternative to hold clicks to swap when you want to be spending as little time as possible in the loot screen
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Marathon is gaining players now we might see 70k players tonight, Marachads won
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>>735039410
> Marachads

No such thing. It's Maratroons
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The Chart Chuddies have lost!
MARATHON IS A SUCCESS!
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>>735038889
That's the zeitgeist. Accessibility to information and misinformation is at an all time high, but people are encouraged to just rely on the accessibility of information instead of actually learning about things.
To the point where people stop accessing books or articles and instead get all of their opinions off of vibes (see: social media). Yes, that includes /v/.
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I kind of want to try it...
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>>735039606
Anon, I know you are probably baiting, but I will still fall for it:
If you are thinking about buying 2 XL cheese pizzas and splurge on some desert options, I would say that ~40 is better spent on Marathon. I personally think that if you give it a fair shot, the odds are you will have a fun time and you will be healthier for choosing a better meal. Your first 2hr session will be a bit confusing, but when you get a handle of the maps and start completing quests and unlocking factions, you'll have a ball.
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>>735037059
Lmao no. This is a game like titanfall 2, in the sense that is has a very loyal but small playerbase that will slowly bleed out over time because the game is too punishing for casuals/new players.
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>>735039528
funny thing is if steamdb was wiped off the face of the planet tomorrow this game would still be a flop
not watching charts isnt going to keep it from failing
bungie is still seeing those numbers, and they are panicking
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>>735037058
it's amazing
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>>735039891
I wasn't baiting I actually did want to try it. I desperately want a shootan that isn't shit.
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>>735040010
this
the sheer unhinged reaction to what's a genuinely dope, fresh, interesting gaming experience will never not be hilarious to me
can't wait to see their next cope after today
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>>735038110
today
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>>735040102
it's great anon, do it
just don't be a pussy and bail after the first hour, it's a steep learning curve
literally get good and it turns into a one of a kind experience
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>>735036658
Can i just say the game looks like ass? Like, not "Woke" or whatever, it just look like shit
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I dont have my fucking key. Even when I get keys for rooms in other maps I always get them stolen in every attempt. I want purple loot.
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>>735038918
He is 100% correct
Marathon is a multiplayer only game with price tag, it did great and you can only cope about how it didn't by inventing fantastical hundred million dollars budgets
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>>735039953
I want them to panic. It's not a trash game per se but they need to fix things fast or I will give up and I know I'm not the only one having similar issues.

Fagets countering with skill issue won't save it. This game has the worst onboarding ever and what's weird is that its later missions are pieces of cake at times. They should have switched them around.
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I am BLASTING through marathon. Around every corner is BLAST waiting to happen. Me and my friends BLAST on discord and then BLAST through the epic LOOTER SHOOTER CRAFTING OPEN WORLD SOULSLIKE. Then i put my kids to sleep and BLAST through MARATHON in my dreams. HIGH....MARATHON is a new household favorite to BLAST to. It also made me want to get a RENEWEL on my XBOX LIVE account. Now im set to BLAST in EPIC PVP for the rest of the year courtesy of XBOX LIVE. Thanks bungie.
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I don't get it.
How can so many people enjoy getting their eyes raped?
Game looks horrendous.
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Wait, do I have to have a fagbox live account for this shit?
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>>735040259
you're astonishingly wrong and have zero fucking taste
it's one of the best looking games I've seen in a decade easily
ya tasteless normie unc dipshit
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>>735040438
t, still plays with legos and duplos
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I do like it. It feels like playing hunt showdown in 2021 but with fun movement. Sound is good, fights are rough and about repositioning, ttk is fast and you need superior map knowledge to do well.
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>>735037059
>lost 14k players from weekend peak ONE WEEK AFTER RELEASE
>bb-roo yuuuge climb in players!
kek and this was WITH the streamer shill campaign for the third week in a row.
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>>735040102
>>735040185
IMO I don't get why people call it a "steep learning curve", I feel that phrase is overused.
To me it's like learning how to whistle, or riding a bike. Maybe tricky to start but so much easier once you understand the "motion". Marathon is similar. Learning audio cues happens by just listening. Same with map layout, door opening sounds, glass breaking, looting, running, gunfire, etc.
Just play the game with a little bit of effort at learning how it works and don't try it on autopilot.
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>>735037597
It depends on how bungie/sony view it. I refuse to believe that they thought it was going to do serious numbers, the game is pretty fucking hard core. I can only assume they see it as some they can spend time growing and can give them a steady income. You don't buy a company for 3.6 billion just to bet on their next game. People on this board have no idea what they are talking about.
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How did /v/ lose.....?
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so...the game is set in the far future on another planet...and yet they cant just send in the "shells" when it safe via aerial/orbital observation? Like the whole concept of the game is retarded, why not just use a robot?
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>>735040438
Hmmm, no, i double checked, my opinion is fact and yours is wrong
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>>735036658
Some fags are so fucking obsessed with this game failing it's unreal.
Like, I get if it's not your thing and you don't like it, but you don't have to spam the catalog hundreds of "marathon is dead" per day.
Imagine if they put all this effort in getting a degree or finding a job, they would actually get something going on in their life instead of obsessing over charts and the sales of a videogame they didn't even make.
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>>735040630
aka a steep learning curve you fucking nitpicking dork
why don't you add more paragraph breaks to define a two word phrase that captures it
such a midwitted redddit coded faggot way of talking
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lost 20k players
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>>735040438
woah woah woah, you get paid either way for the posts little buddy. You need to learn to separate work from your personal life. Then you wont get so mad.
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>>735040808
colors make you dizzy you're too dysgenic to honestly be allow internet access
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>>735040865
>>735040438
>>735040185
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>>735040865
U mad?
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>>735040805
Lorewise:
The UESC is pretty chad and IIRC doesn't let the corpos use military drone tech, especially when Tau Ceti is so remote and the UESC is the only one with the authority + resources to actually send expeditions there.
Shells are cheaper, redundant and flexible but also more fragile + Tau Ceti is kinda haunted, so they start decaying the moment they're deployed.
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>>735040772
it’s down 15k players Sunday over Sunday…
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THIS IS THE WAY!
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>>735041059
>two more weeks
>it's bleeding players
>it doesn't have legs

Any other preprogrammed lines youd like to share?
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Maratrannies seething
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>>735041012
No, I'm not.
I just don't understand why someone would be so obsessed with staring at a Steamdb chart all day just to spam an imageboard with "look, this game is dead!" thread, it's a complete waste of time.
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>>735036658
good goy
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>>735041193
its been a week and it is losing players, are you denying this simple fact?
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>>735040884
I consider "steep learning curve" the correct phrase when discussing a deckbuilder or a TGC where you actually have to learn the card pool and potential cards, resource economy, etc. That requires effort to learn whereas Marathon is just intuitive learning.
I am profoundly sorry that the formatting of my reply made you so uncomfortable anon. As an ally, I do my utmost to respect all peoples and their circumstances by trying to avoid any possible triggers. I will be sure to avoid making this mistake in the future. Please accept this apology.
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>>735036658
Chuds seething about this game will inevitably fizzle out, once people realise that it's actually a really solid game.
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Crazy how hard Marathon won
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>>735041660
..... the bleeding players on a weekend contest!
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>>735036658
Dude everyone loves this game. It's a blast. Bungie's swan song and a true return to form for the series.
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>>735040438
Based
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>>735041740
It's up from yesterday
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These are the OPENING contracts???
I haven't even killed 10 runners period yet
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>>735041820
and next weekend it will be at least 10k lower, would you like to bet on that?
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>>735040438
Literally, I really like the artstyle and the lore plus gameplay makes it pretty unique.
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>>735041942
You don't have to do it in one run
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>>735041740
Lol >>735041193
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>>735041820
>It's up from yesterday
smartest bungie shill
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Can the TORtanic fags just move on? It wasnt a smash hit or Concord 3, both sides played and lost. Time to let this game exist in its own lane. It clearly found an audience. Horizon seems like the next true concord.
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>>735041979
Sure
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>>735041942
1. U don't have to do it in one run.
2. you get credit if your teammates do it
3. Why are you doing arachne first, do Nucaloric and MIDA
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>review embargo still active
Lol, lmao even.
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>>735042030
Are there more or less player from launch?
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>>735042034
Explain how it isn't
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>>735037059
In what way?
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>>735041627
In general the only time that seems to happen for live service games that rely on active players is when they do a massive update combined with a significant sale and a large marketing push via streamers/content creators that actually shows off the improvement to draw people in. I don't see 2 of those 3 requirements happening anytime soon even if they could just attempt another push via content creators but that is likely a lost cause if it didn't already stick the first time. Thing could be different if it wasn't a paid game and was instead F2P since that lowers the bar for entry significantly and people lose nothing but time giving it a shot.
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>>735042061
>Why are you doing arachne first, do Nucaloric and MIDA
I can't do those contracts because I have no fucking space in my vault for the gibs.
Just from redeeming the free shit they give me it's already full, and I have 30 codex entries I haven't redeemed yet
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Will this game have seasonal wipes?
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>>735042202
sell your stuff dude
most of the shit's useless besides upgrade materials and shotguns/snipers
Or you can just wait a week for the new vault update
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>>735042113
because you are pretending that it going up 2k on a weekend means it is good news for the game when the trend has been downward for the past week. which is normally bad but especially bad for a newly released game. every other game in existence gains players from week to week after release for a short period, not lose players. of course since youre a shill you ignore this and pretend
>see line go up, it good! marathon is saved!
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>>735042180
Speaking of f2p, this game WAS f2p for a weekend and did horribly, shedding over half the population over the playtest. People thinking this is going to somehow pick up players now that it’s paid and with the barebones content roadmap it has arent being objective
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>past tense because dead game
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>>735042371
every three months lmao
its over
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>>735042180
Thing is, free to play = cancerous microtransactions.
I'm willing to bet they might in the future release DLC which adds in new maps (in theme with classic Bungie).
Yet, I think the player count will remain relatively consistant.
There's a strong core community, and time will increase the playerbase or keep it at the same level at worse.

>As long as Bungie don't fuck it up of course...
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>>735042489
>There's a strong core community
How do you know?
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>>735042489
>free to play = cancerous microtransactions
>he doesn't know
Anon...
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>>735042489
>I think the player count will remain relatively consistant.
what about the numbers dropping every day makes you think this exactly
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>>735041395
u mad
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>>735042489
>and time will increase the playerbase or keep it at the same level at worse
>in one week lost 10k players
>after paying every top streamer millions to shill their game
>but somehow the game will magically gain players...because it just will okay
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>>735042648
>15 seconds for one joke
jesus christ the left really cant meme
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>>735042392
the guy said it was bleeding players on a weekend which is not true since it's at its highest today
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>>735042416
Oh yeah I forgot about that. Though there isn't really anything stopping them from doing a free weekend promotion besides being an indicator of desperation. But without new/better content to sell potential new players on it would be a moot point.
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>>735036658
Average Maratroon
https://blog.aurahack.ca/marathon-reprise/
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>>735042729
for the weekend
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>>735042729
its highest today is 10k less than the weekend before it and 25k less than the weekend before that
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>>735042729
>since it's at its highest today
in comparison to what? Certainly not last weekend
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>>735042729
>last sunday
>77k
>this sunday
>62k
seems like he would be correct
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>>735036658
Fuck you, I like shitting on it.
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>>735037059
Really unlikely, but I admire the optimism
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>>735042850
for the weekend
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>>735042489
>free to play = cancerous microtransactions
As a generalisation sure I agree with that, but that isn't always the case and can be done in a sustainable manner. At the very least being F2P has higher potential to lure new people in, and then it is a manner of there being enough content to keep them in and also sell them on whatever monetisation options are on offer. As it stands going with a paid model that also still has microtransactions is just a double deterrent, and for that to be viable you need to have some sort of super addictive content to entice and keep players.
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>>735037214
Seems like it's a trademark of bungie to make their games as unaccessible as possible to a new player. When it first started destiny I had to watch video and videos to understand the complex shit they had
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>>735042893
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO WAIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>735042816
two weeks ago was the server slam and it peaked at 62, same as today so far
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/ourguy/ grummz said it was woke trash
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>>735043912
isn't that nigga 60 and scammed coomers for a WEG kickstarter
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>>735036793
lol
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game is fun!
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>>735044189
Actually, the Vandal would be going for the execute because she's faster
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>>735043963
He is 56 and his game is coming out in 2 weeks
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>>735044287
destroyer can boost forward while in the air
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>>735044373
Am I using the wrong controls? It always pushes me up, barely forwards.
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>>735044582
it moves you in whatever direction you are currently moving in so you have to move forward before using it for you to go forward and not just up
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>>735036658
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>>735044287
vandal's movement is ironically the worst in the game, double jump is all she has that makes her feel somewhat special but even thief can reach better positions faster
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>>735044730
I find a lot of the players I encounter have their aim thrown off when power sliding so I've found that ability really useful.
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it was so bad i stopped playing and reinstalled warzone
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>>735044814
thats the magic of aim assist. sliding around just gets you lit up by m/kb
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She/her cute
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>>735036658
the game solo is one of the worst experiences I ever had, I would have preferred if they didn't add a solo queue at all instead of the half assed, unbalanced shit it is currently
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Are extraction shooters just shit or is it just Marathon?

I think I've played 20 hours of this now and after having a decent enough time on Outpost I can only think of one thing.
This game is just a TDM-only multiplayer fps but it has dogshit pacing.
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>>735044938
she doesn't have all that ass, artists are trying to salvage the character design of this game
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>>735044968
All extraction shooters are like this, but with slight variation.
>Tarkov has more disparity between poverty and luxury kits, an expensive kit makes you tanky as shit against low tier guns, while Marathon has a more smoother curve and very low TTK so it doesn't matter
>Arc is so focused on PVE and with ABMM it's basically Helldivers cosplaying as an extraction shooter
It's the same stuff though.
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>>735036658
it'll just hurt even more for you, personally, when it goes out of service in a month or so, then
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>>735045076
>>735044968
extraction shooters are just games for people who think theyre too good for battle royales but are too pussy at larping
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>>735044373
how do you get pink cat
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What’s the best way to get credits? I’ve only got like 14k
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>>735044968
lol no
Hunt is actually pretty good. Tarkov is pretty shit but it has quirks like leg cripple meta. Neither are games you want to play every fucking day tho so its a super dumb decision to make marathon a live service dumpster fire.
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>>735045162
2 more weeks, trust the plan, bingus WILL be a companion
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>>735044968
Nah. Hunt is good but it's basically a sandboxy battle royale, very PvP focused, also even if you lose your shit you have so much money you can bring everything but the most expensive guns in every match, and that's a good thing, pacing is good, everything can kill you with a single headshot but fight also manage to last long and feel tactical, the PvE elements are there to enhance the PvP fights instead of ruining them. Tarkov has a slower paced and more tense gameplay, it's more tactical and it works because of that, you don't have to kill every player in the map like in marathon, in fact it rarely happens. Dark and darker is a bit meme but it's fun, again, it's a game that rewards playing smart and you can chase pvp or do your stuff in peace if you're good, also fights don't last 0.5 seconds and require some tactics, fuck rangers though.
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>>735036851
Destiny 2 has soul and narrative even amidst its glaring issues. The only thing marathon has going for is its awesome art style and aesthetics but thats not enough tbqhdesu
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>>735045219
Have a long run and kill a bunch of people and get a bunch of loot and exfil successfully
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>>735036851
I will never get involved with another game from that fucked up company ever again. they lost any remaining Goodwill with me after well they did to Destiny 2. hopefully their offices all burn down and their servers fry.
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>>735045308
hunt is good
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>>735044968
Conceptually the genre is sound but it is difficult to pull off in a manner that is engaging and rewarding since a lot of that relies around the actual players and/or good enemy design and AI. And the line can blur between what is explicitly an extraction shooter and what is an FPS with extraction elements. Arguably even with a handful of proven successes of the concept it is probably still a niche genre comparatively despite this push for them. I can imagine part of that push is simply because they fit the live service model so well and that is what the suits want.
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>>735045219
Sell EVERYTHING, keep only what you actually use. The moment you die and lose everything, run a sponsored kit, kill the first guy that appears and steal their stuff, keep running that stuff and sell everything else you get until you die. Your vault should only have the essentials and upgrade materials, no things you "plan to use", most gear is useless anyway and you'll die in the first minute the moment you actually go in properly geared up.
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>reading the lore logs
>New Cascadia had a population of 20,000
immersion RUINED, there wouldn't be enough ruins to sustain the lore implied level of looting. Put another 0 there at minimum to convince me.
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>>735045456
Waiting for hunger, basically dark and darker x hunt showdown
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>>735045379
>>735044938
All the characters and environments in this game have the hideously clashing neon color schemes of some autist's horrible fursona.
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>>735044968
>>735045462
The problem is that the moment an extraction shooter exclusively becomes about killing people on sight it becomes awful.

Understand the actual appeal of the genre is the LARPing. People will argue otherwise but the SOLE reason the predecessors of the genre were as popular as they were was because DayZ and ARMA let you LARP like retards.
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>>735045379
>$15 for this
I dont even need to see a picture of the games art director to know they are african. You can literally tell they repatriated that troons art and blacked it up abit.
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>>735045613
>the lore implied level of looting
the lore implication is that there are like 100 runners tops lol, Nona is surprised you contacted her so it can't be a common thing, at least in lore. If anything it's the actual game that has dissonance with the lore, too much stuff, too many robots, too many runners
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So
How does this tie in with the original from 1994?
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>>735045781
Nobody knows, nobody played that shit because it was getting mogged by Doom II.
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>>735045781
mainly talks about the tau ceti colony, that's not explored in the original trilogy, there's some retcons.
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>>735045716

real and true larping is the sovl of these games
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>>735045308
Love me hunt, honestly it's the only extraction shooter I can get behind mostly because it's not lootslop like most extract shooters. You can loot guns, equipment, and bounties, thats it. No doing grindy bullshit quests besides some simple challenges.
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>>735045242
>the cat is actually named bingus
>missed the chance to get a icon of it last week because all genuine discussion got drowned out
well that sucks, unless the icon was just for twitch then whatever
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>>735045781
Its a reboot because not even modern Bungie devs played Marathon
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>>735045914
It was for watch time, I just idled a stream for 4 hours to get all the rewards
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>>735045781
It sits between Marathon 1 and 2, mainly because 1 barely had an effect on 2.
>>735045861
>that's not explored in the original trilogy, there's some retcons.
I think it only retcons what Tycho said about the second Pfhor attack on the Marathon? The first one is shown, but while Tycho said the Pfhor later attacked and wiped it out between Marathon 1 and 2, so that didn't happen. Either they did attack but didn't wipe it entirely, or it didn't happen at all, and it just contracted fungal AIDS 20 years later? It's weird.
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>>735045772
It's a free skin bwo
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>>735046045
>Its a reboot
the first trailer literally shows events of Marathon 1 bwo
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Why is the Martahon crashed into the fucking moon? No wonder the colony went tits up with such a shit parking job.
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>>735046045
>>735046195
You know what was great about the originals? All the PvP and extraction shooter shit, I really digged those
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>>735045781
it seems to be a different timeline because Durandal is still around after the Phfor wiped out the colony (he is supposed to be on the hijacked alien ship very far away)
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>>735046398
Actually the ship IS a moon. Specifically the Martian moon Deimos.
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>>735046398
That's Deimos, Marathon was built inside it, through it, and using its materials.
No wonder the Martians are pissed, globohomo stole their moon.
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>>735036835
they wish
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>>735046406
>PvP
Marathon did have multiplayer
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>>735046484
>>735046550
Gnarly, I just assumed that moon was native to Tau Ceti.
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OMG THE LORE
OMG THE VIBE SHIFTING IN MY ASS
OMG THE LEGS
WE CANT POSSIBLY BLAST MORE THAN THIS
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>>735046550
Deimos is not round
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>>735046912
it had extraction too after every single fucking mission
the one singular negative psycho is just intent on misrepresenting everything
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>>735045781
It doesn't
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>>735045325
>Destiny 2 has soul and narrative
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>>735047015
It did in 2017 and 2018, Shadowkeep raped the game.
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>>735047014
it literally does
very fucking well might I add
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>>735046457
I assume they're going for the revelation that the durandal that went to Boomer and did the cool stuff is actually a copy and the "original" durandal was stuck inside the marathon, making him even more insane. The whole game revolves around the idea of copying your mind/rebirth/death and the phisolopical questions around what it would mean copy and move a consciousness kinda like SOMA
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>>735036658
It's a return to a lightning in a bottle, a real blast
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>>735047106
How?
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>>735036658
people like starfield too
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>>735047145
Man I should replay Mass Effect
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>>735047104
dude just look at the sky in the game, the marathon is right there and Deimos is almost perfectly round with the ship piercing right through it.
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I find it funny how people have just moved on after seeing Marathon perform so... unremarkably.

It isn't a complete flop. Nor is it a big hit.
I predicted this but it sits in that extremely awkward position where it has a very middling launch and an extremely defensive fanbase.
So people just moved on and the next time we'll hear about this game is when Sony laysoff a bunch of Bungie devs.
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>>735047106
>>735047110
It follows Marathon 1 and expands the worldbuilding of the setting on parts that weren't touched then, but I don't know if it retcons 2 or not.
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The gameplay loop of this game is very satisfying and addicting. I'm also really enjoying the emergent narrative beats.
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>>735047248
Sounds like you're having a blast
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>>735047216

trust in the cryo map you chud
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>some lore says the shells were made by sekiguchi
>others say they're cyberacme and you start with them as your oshi
which is it
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I hate the fucking PvE elements I with it was a normal PvP game, the extraction shooter stuff is ok but the robots are just a pain in the ass and makes me enjoy the game way less, also I'm never going to do the MMO like events
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>>735047286
Wrong, Sunday isn't a real test for the game xister people hardly play games in the weekend, wait until Wednesday.
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>>735037059
Nah. It's a strong finale in the Concordian Trilogy.
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>>735047286
why would the new map magically improve the game? Even if it was good you apparently need to grind countless hours from the other maps to even be able to access it.
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>>735040438
>AI asets
>good
Kek, soulless nigger cattle detected
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>>735047329
the hardware is sekiguchi, the software is cyberacme
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>>735047424
Its such a bizarre thing
The first two maps of the game are already shit
Outpost is decent
And then the final map is gonna be locked behind too much grinding

Like what the FUCK is this?
Marathon is basically a multiplayer only shooter with arguably only 1 gold map
How are people okay with this people shat on games for less back then
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I'm only really intrigued by the lore but even then the entire game has this mysterious and ominous tone to it that I don't think it will live up to. All of the characters we play as technically have no personality lore wise as it's meant to be the player themselves piloting these shells. All of the contract givers are AI and have no personal affiliation with your character (cept for one) yet they tell us classified info despite us supposedly being completely expendable.

Old Marathon lore has aliens and timeline shenanigans, which won't come as a surprise to people familiar with the games. They were teasing some infection on the planet that will just end up being mushroom zombies/The flood, the boss in cryo will just be a S'pht. One of the most interesting aspects of the reveal trailer was the implied shared consciousness of the runners but they've done nothing further with this concept as far as I'm aware.
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How is filling in with randoms?
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if you're not on the US don't even consider buying this shit, they probably didn't even set up servers in Europe and other parts of the world, i'm seeing a lot of reports of console players with crossplay off not finding any matches in their regions
if you're a PC player you'll be lagging your ass off to east or west servers because the cheap fucks of these billionaire value companies said so
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>>735047625
>'m only really intrigued by the lore but even then the entire game has this mysterious and ominous tone to it that I don't think it will live up to.
Bungie fumbles hard when they start to explain shit, they need to keep the mystery going for as long as possible.
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>>735047636
great if you take the lead and don't suck
use the emotes too, that helps a ton
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>>735047216
If the game had had a reasonable sized budget, and didn't have the extra cost of buying Bungie tacked on to boot, then its current numbers would have been fine. But to burn all that money just to get this middling result is pretty bad. Plus it seems like it is right on the cusp of deciding whether it is worth trying to salvage and carry on with it meaning more money being burned or just cut losses and put an end date on it. Either way I imagine that a number of the Bungie staff are now on the table for cuts regardless due to this poor launch.
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>>735047689
I'm fine with talking and hope other people do. I do suck so I maybe I just won't bother.
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>>735047723
no one talks
and you seem like too much of a mope to be good at anything so idk what to tell you dork
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>>735047696

were gonna know the fact of bungie by april or may when sonys quarterly ivestor calls happen
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>>735047778
>no one talks
So it's all bots? What kind of extraction shooter has nobody that talks? lol
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>>735047636
I've only played with randoms
They are, surprisingly, almost always team players, they'll cover fire for you, resurrect you, share loot, stay behind to catch up instead of exfiling without you etc. Honestly I'm very impressed.
Use the commands though. If you get a mic you're team commander, that's the rule
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>>735047836
That sounds annoying, how poor is the Marathon player base? Everything has a mic in it now.
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>>735047674
what a retarded design, he looks like he belongs in a pixar movie
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>>735040438
Did you play Roblox before Marathon? Because you seem underage.
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>>735047789
I think that some amount of Bungie staff getting yeeted is a given at this point, and it is only a matter of what percentage or what areas get it. Personally given how much they cost I would think everyone that was involved in this clusterfuck should go.
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>new content coming out is 1 raid map that 90% of the playerbase won't ever do and a night version of an already existing map
>in 2 months everything resets and you have to do all the faction contracts again and get your level back so you can do those 2 maps until a new map is out late in season 2
I don't think they thought this through
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>>735047938
I'll say that it's possible for Marathon to survive if Sony wants it to - it obviously hasn't been a profitable launch but hey it's a live service game so it's a new source of revenue either way. It's just a matter of lowering the cost of development. Can Bungie make it work with a crew of like 50-60 guys? My guess is no, but it'd be funny to watch them try at least.
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I find the lore of this game to be genuinely enjoyable. Some real fucked up shit happened during the expedition and to the planet in general which the UESC is trying to cover up.
It also avoids the nu Bungie pitfall of having the villains be comically evil. The UESC and Orion in particular have decent motivations for their actions.
I've also been enjoying the Cryo Archive ARG parts of Durandal (voiced by Ben Starr for some reason) messing with the players via cryptic messages and videos hidden behind puzzles. Seems very in character.
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>>735048254
the reset thing is definitely going to make A LOT of people drop the game
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>>735048521
holy shit you sound like massive shills you're not even hiding it it's embarrassing
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>>735047623
Perimeter is a good map, a little uneven in places but good overall. Outpost is good but needs more extract points. Dire Marsh is the only irredeemably bad map.
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>>735037059
I suspect once they introduce the Marathon ship itself as the fourth level and have you fighting against more enemy types and bosses (I.E. The Spht compilers n sheit) more people will start to “finally get it” and join in.
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>>735049428
ah yeah when they'll add more shit PvE to the PvP game more people will "get it"
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>>735036658
me too, anon
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i refuse to believe that it's ONLY NA keeping this game alive at 60k players during peak hours
every other CONTINENT is having queue/match issues with 5min wait times and bleeding players day by day
i literally play Deep Rock Galactic every night and i'll run into some SA server from time to time and that's a 10k worldwide player during nights kinda game
if fucking nobody is playing the game properly in Europe, South America or Asia, how the fuck does Bungie find 60k retards to fill up their servers in NA? whats going on?
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>>735049428
The Marathon ship can easily be multiple maps, it's pretty big
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>>735048354
That is sort of why I think it is on the cusp of whether further investment is viable or not considering the poor ROI that has already been incurred. It would need a further investment the likes of which would make it even more of a risky gamble and there is no guarantee that it would even work. That is sort of the plight of GaaS though since their survival and viability rely entirely upon continued development and engagement. If this game had a proper SP campaign and the GaaS MP stuff was on top of that then it would be an entirely different story.
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fuck you you /v/***** you're the reason the fun is not being had
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>>735049596
Is this Roblox?
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>>735049597
they pay people to sit with the game open on the title screen so number doesnt plummet
there is literally r*dditors doing this
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>>735049597
Euro here, queue times are unbearably long, even perimeter takes 5+ minutes, dire marsh takes 10 minutes sometimes
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>>735049371
I wouldn't mind if Dire Marsh had some sort of cover to let you travel between PoIs. The tunnel systems are interesting but they only go underneath individual PoIs
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>>735049597
games popular in australia
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>>735049212
thats in months, its not going to matter because they're not going to have a playerbase at that point
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>>735049729
meds
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>>735040438
>>735041983
looks nazi coded. i like it
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>>735049673
nah roblox looks better than that
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>>735045325
>awesome art style and aesthetics
Top kek, just because it is different it doesn't automatically makes it good
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>>735048354
skins are apparently already selling as shit, if they reduce the team and can't keep adding new maps and shells to keep players in , and also make enough sellable skins then the game is going to die fast.
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>>735049826
>>735045379
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>>735049736
Huh?
It's 3 in the morning and my queue on outpost was less than a minute, what unholy timezone are you in
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>>735036658
Shiteater retard
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>>735049794
true lmfao and it's going to make the few players remaining quit, I have no idea how anyone could forced progression wipes are a good idea, people will hate it they're ok only if voluntary. Tarkov got away with it because it was in development.
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>>735050075
Wiping inventory is fine
Wiping progress with leveling reputation is going to be ass
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>>735050015
Berlin tz, level 17, I can literally go take a smoke while waiting for dire marsh
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>>735050135
I'm not going to redo all the fucking boring fetch quests again to get basic upgrades like bigger stamina bar, if I'm somehow still playing by the end of the season or intend to try it again next season I'm 100% uninstalling if I see the faction progression wiped.
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>>735050157
I guess Western Europe doesn't play the game much, East is more active. So much for not letting Russians buy it.
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Marathon went up 3 places today in the global top sellers, MARACHADS WE ARE WINNING
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>>735050309
I actually bothered to write human, well articulated feedback to them on an official form to NOT FUCKING WIPE FACTION PROGRESS or YOU'LL KILL THE GAME
Hopefully they get the memo.
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>>735050549
done the same thing, let's hope
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62k today, nice
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>>735050587
so the chuddists are gonna win anyways huh.
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>>735038024
You literally can see their objectives
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>retardera is coping so hard that they're comparing marathon to demon souls now

KEKAROO
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>having to do the awful fucking Traxus and SekGen missions again
NO PLS GOD
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>level 25 and all faction quests

Is Bungie fucking retarded? Cryo is supposed to be this big thing that brings people back but no one is gonna want to grind out shit just for the chance of getting into a potentially good pve map.
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>>735052152
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>>735036658
I too, like being paid.
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>>735052242
it's not all faction quests it's just having factions unlocked
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>>735052279
>>735052242
level 25 is insufferable to get too
and no one casual is gonna get it id they keep dying a lot
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>>735052242
The only thing remotely 'hard' for that is doing the SekGen quest
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>>735052329
i die a lot and I got there
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>>735052242
>Is Bungie fucking retarded?
Yes.
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>>735036658
Oh honey, no, no you dont.
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>>735040438
>>735041983
>>735045379
>>735041627
>>735041094

They all look like plastic toys, i don't think that's intentional
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>>735052736
you might be retarded
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>>735040109
Clearly the game will be supported for 10 years
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I have had so many failed extractions in a row i ran out of shields and am now running out of money buying kits. Almost all of this is from running diremarsh, what a dogshit map that is. Most runs i got people with no shields and now im the guy with no shields. Legit i had way more success running solo.
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>>735040109
>dope, fresh
>its just scifi hunt
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>>735036658
soon
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>>735036658
It's a return to form for Bungie. I'm having a blast.
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>>735052242
>Is Bungie fucking retarded?
They thought a shitty extraction shooter would do well in 2026, yes
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>>735052949
>four maps for six months
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>>735037059
As the community collaborates to solve the various mysteries that inhabit this mysterious world; it will attract more and more people that embody what it means to be a Runner™ as time goes by.
Bungie is going to be proven right in this one, I can feel it in my bones.
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>>735052242
>good pve map.
whos gonna tell him?
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>>735052239
>again
Nani?
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>>735053502
the wipe makes you do everything except the intro missions again, even the goddam annoying as fuck 'find the rods' and only gets worse from there
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>>735052949
Sorry are you saying this game only has 3 maps? And they the extent of what player's can look forward to is the inclusion of a single extra map? And that might be the extent of the new content for 6 whole months?
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>>735036658
>Fuck you, I like it
But did you spend additional money on it? You only truely support the game if you pay into the microtransactions
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>>735036658
Ok enjoy playing it alone then
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>>735053502
>Xhe doesn't know
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>>735053607
The wipe doesn’t make you redo existing missions, its going to be new ones.
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>Arc Raiders is going to get a new PvE boss and a new map next month
Yeah what little people care about Marathon is going to vanish immediately
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>>735053189
Qrd?
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>>735052898
Same issue here. Lost a bunch of good shit because teammates keep dying and then I have to clutch. Just had a good run finally, voice chat is basically a must if your playing with randoms.
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>>735053801
Cryo is going to completely BTFO arc
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>>735053850
it will never be another pve map. it will be outpost but ten times more obnoxious. probably a bunch of rooms locked by a "puzzle" of finding 5 different key cards, trying to avoid the purple shield enemies that 2 shot you, and the guy camping in the corner when you accidentally trigger a pve fight.
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>>735053801
they have completely different playerbases at this point
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there aint no thrill like loading in with a pistol, no extra ammo, and coming out with blue guns, shield and backpack
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>>735054057
You need to sneak past one of the alien enemies from the original game
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I hope they fix the fucking matchmaking
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>>735053784
I hope they swap the shit in the armory and the sponsor kits too, get the fucking overrun and hardline out of there
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>>735053868
Even when i got green/blue kited teammates in diremarch we either walked into rats just camping in a spot or if we do win a fight by the time its over another team jumps you it was just a constant string of fights until you lose, it was just retarded. I really don't feel like playing now that im the teammate bringing in no shields. Solo was kind of boring even if i had way more success.
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>>735054560
Whats wrong with it?
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>>735054698
Personally I got some of the best loot when I was running free kits. The second I got rich and started using good weapons I started becoming too ballsy and dying more.
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>>735049597
Playing from Japan, queue is between 30 seconds and 2 minutes.
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reminder that bungie is well aware that steam chart posting is enough to dissuade many people from getting into a game thats going to die soon
so they're sending waves of shills to websites like this to stop it and pretend like the game is alive and well
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bungie put a radio transmitter in my rear molar and it really hurts when i chew
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Has anyone experienced proximity chat yet? I kinda get how they didn't have it in the game before because it has almost been a non factor in my 30 some hours. The one instance I believed it came into play was an enemy team near by heard us talking loudly like retards and got the drop on us. If two squads managed to broker an alliance they would probably have an easy time mopping up the entire map but I'm not so sure any such shenanigans are going on since everyone is so trigger happy to mag dump their own shadow.
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>>735037059
>>735053157
>>735049610
>>735049428
>>735037460
Copeathon
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Like almost everyone who bought the game run it, but only half of them could make 7 successful runs or just 21 runs.
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>>735042043
See you next week
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>>735037059
$40 is pretty steep for f2p shit. No one's giving anything a "try" for monetary cost. Tell your masters to make the game free or the cosmetics free. You can't charge money for everything.
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>>735055746
I like the confidence when falling under 53k by next weekend is completely realistic
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>>735036658
I'm having a blast
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>"BRO THE ENEMY AI IS SO GOOD"
>they just walk straight at you like any other game
Sincerely, some of the best AI came from Bungie, but that was back in Halo fucking 3.
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>Marathon :
Day 1: 88,337
Day 2: 78,498 (-9,839) (-11.14%)
Day 3: 75,133 (-3,365) (-4.29%)
Day 4: 77,371 (+2,238) (+2.98%)
Day 5: 66,593 (-10,778) (-13.93%)
Day 6: 62,495 (-4,098) (-6.15%)
Day 7: 60,649 (-1,846) (-2.95%)
Day 8: 57,246 (-3,403) (-5.61%)
Day 9: 59,357 (+2,111) (+3.69%)
Day 10: 58,729 (-628) (-1.06%)
Day 11: 62,830 (+4,101) (+6.98%)

Trend vs Day 1: -25,507 (-28.88%)


>ARC Raiders :
Day 1: 264,673
Day 2: 253,486 (-11,187) (-4.23%)
Day 3: 328,434 (+74,948) (+29.57%)
Day 4: 354,836 (+26,402) (+8.04%)
Day 5: 322,135 (-32,701) (-9.21%)
Day 6: 309,233 (-12,902) (-4.01%)
Day 7: 307,327 (-1,906) (-0.62%)
Day 8: 315,238 (+7,911) (+2.57%)
Day 9: 354,879 (+39,641) (+12.58%)
Day 10: 416,517 (+61,638) (+17.37%)
Day 11: 462,488 (+45,971) (+11.04%)

Trend vs Day 1: +197,815 (+74.74%)

MARATHON IS BACK BABY
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>>735056567
>Day 11: 62,830 (+4,101) (+6.98%)
Blast Status?
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>>735056679
Tomorrow's peak gonna be 56k screenshot this
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>>735055697
The 7 wins is a bit tricky, there might be a lot of shitters. Not finishing 21 matches is way more telling though.
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>>735036658
Okay, you like it. So what? Should I care?
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>>735055697
I got both those achievements on the same run funnily enough
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>>735037028
stupid comparison because you are low IQ
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>>735056987
see you in a week >>735055746
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>>735057076
For some reason 4chin automatically uploads that image whenever I post. Have to manually remove it each time I want to say something on this board.
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>>735037690
as if a low IQ faggot like you would know
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>>735049596
>a graphic designer was on the payroll for years to make this
easy scam
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>>735038001
na, they are right. you are low IQ trash
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>>735041979
completely normal decline that is better than average. dumb trash like you are so desperate to find something wrong with the game, it is pathetic
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>>735054849
It's incredibly annoying that when I just want to chill and freekit, instead of being matched with other povertyfags I am instead matched with bluekits due to season level
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>>735057401
>>735057259
>>735057217
>>735056987
>getting butthurt this much
awww did people hurt your feewings over big sloppa shooter not doing well?
what an angwy little man you are, next you are gonna call me low IQ as a response.
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>>735039296
How would you make an extraction shooter that is more loot oriented? In the end, the loot is meant to serve a purpose, which is either to aid you in combat for more loot or to be sold for money. Is there something else that Tarkov does in this regard that Marathon doesn't?
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>>735056567
arc raiders was an anomaly with numbers, the only one that went up after launch. compare it to other extraction shooters, you pathetically stupid, low IQ retard and clown of a person.

cope and mald, fag. 90% positive reviews on steam. marathon is doing great.
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>>735057401
Not that anon, but that's irrelevant, honestly. Even if the game stopped bleeding players and maintained this count going forward, it isn't enough to keep the company afloat. With the amount of resources that went into Marathon the game is an undeniable failure. Not only did it fail to hit sales goals for single player games of a similar budget, but with it being a GAAS title, Bungie/Sony will need to invest MORE money to keep the game running.
I'm interested in the fallout from all this.
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>>735040102
Not sure if Marathon is the right game if you "want a shootan". It's not the kind of game where you pick every fight in your way.
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>>735057515
Nice try Bungie manager. If you want an answer you need to pay me first.
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>>735057514
that is projection, low IQ faggot

you are simply a retard and I name you this as an objective fact.
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>>735057569
a low IQ like you really have NFI, you are just repeating garbage from other low IQs
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>>735057564
WRONG.

Tarkov had 200k ccu a few years ago and its 1.0 launch had 300k.
Keep fucking SEETHING Maracuck.
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>>735057564
>game has free weekend right before launch
>people who were on the fence gave it a try and bounced off
>people who remained liked it enough to stay
>people who stayed liked the game and are more likely to leave a positive review because of it
>people who left wouldn't bother because they didn't buy it
Apply some common sense, anon.
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>>735057634
HE DID IT!!! HE LIVED UP TO THE PROPHECY!
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I'm new to these threads. Do they normally have some sort of schizo making up acronyms and bending over backwards to defend the game?
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>>735057739
cope harder, low IQ faggot. Arc Raiders did the same and marathon has higher review score. 90% positive reviews on steam after a week and insignificant decline from day 1. For an extraction shooter, game is doing just fine.
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>>735057684
say the line anon!
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>>735057895
>For an extraction shooter made by Bungie, game is doing just awful.

FTFY
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>>735057701
face it, you are a joke
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>>735057872
There's plenty to criticize about the game, it's just some people think it's about some culture war shit instead of the map and quest design being complete ass along with weapon balance being fucked to shit. Seasonal wipes I don't mind too much but the prospect of replaying the quests to grind faction rep is so awful I can't bear to do it again unless necessary.
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>>735057949
na, you are low IQ trash. these numbers are good for a hardcore pvp extraction shooter.

compare to tarkov or hunt showdown, you embarrassing retard and clown of a person
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Great game but 3 months to reach level 100 is insanity. For a good player that is 60-70hr investment. For a shitter 100+ hours. WTF?
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>>735057895
How many extraction shooters have had similar player counts WHILE ALSO having a budget of $200 USD minimum. How many of those were successful.
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>>735057972
More like I just love the fucking assassin spam

Gotta love bungie making a fucking class shooter for no reason
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>>735045162
You can find it is a collectable, but it's autosold and you get rewarded with a lore log about it.
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>>735058056
you are just pulling a number out of some chuds ass as some pathetic cope. You have NFI how much it cost them
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>>735058003
Tarkov is made by a bunch of retarded russians living in complete shitholes
While Hunt is dogfed by Crytek which feeds back into their engine development

Destiny 2 is fucking dead
Their gacha is about to EOS
Sony subsumed Project Gummybears
And Bungie is a 800 strong studio in one of the most expensive cities in America

Think for a single moment retard
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>>735058003
>>735057895
>>735057684
>>735057634
>>735057564
>>735057259
>>735057217
>>735056987
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>>735057476
Have you tried having behind doors or corners and ganking their bitch ass? I get free Blue/Green kits like that all the time lel
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>>735053635
BR used to only have one map

>know your place
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STOP BULLYING THE 3 BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY REEEEEE BUY THE GAME BUY IT NOW
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>>735057895
>>735058003
You are angry as fuck lmao. Unless you are one of the devs you have no reason to be this defensive about slop
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>>735058174
Anon, that is the being generous towards the game, it's easy to find the average salary of a Bungie employee and doing some basic math. The game likely cost $300 million+.
Also, don't try and deflect. Tell me how many extraction shooters fit the criteria I listed.
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>>735058003
>these numbers are good for a hardcore pvp extraction shooter.
meanwhile in reality this shit needs to make call of duty numbers to break even

it has a AAAA budget and garnered an obscure indie audience
it's dead
bungie is dead
it's fucking over
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I will never stop telling people not to buy this game
in fact I will start suggestion they buy arc raiders instead
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>>735058370
I used to shit on arc but after i saw how annoying and mentally ill marathonfags are i started defending it
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>>735058314
hes gonna call you "low IQ" as a response, watch and wait.
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>>735058329
lel
even if everyone made the same as fucking testers it would have been like 125 million
holy shit let this industry collapse in on itself already
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>>735058473
those are leads, they manage the entire testing team, it's a managers salary
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>>735058241
Eight, eight, eight is great. You can hold this way, you can hold it that way, it's still eight!
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>>735058204
>Sony subsumed Project Gummybears

God i forgot this was a thing lmao
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>>735058514
one above that anon you blind fuck
59k is what I used
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>>735058329
you have NFI how much it costs them or how much of bungie was working on it. extraction shooters are niche and Marathon is pretty hardcore, they must have known it was never going to pull the same numbers are destiny and that was apparently fine for a reason.
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>>735058673
>they must have known it was never going to pull the same numbers are destiny and that was apparently fine for a reason.
LMAOOOOOOOO
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>>735058426
low IQ trash like you are still in this thread why?
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>>735058673
Enough of Bungie was working on it that they abandoned Destiny so that they could focus on pushing it out the door.
Answer the question. Stop strawmanning.
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>>735058764
its called marketing to a niche audience because of an over-saturated market, low IQ retard

armchair devs retards like you really think
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>>735058673
>they must have known it was never going to pull the same numbers are destiny and that was apparently fine for a reason.
lel is this nigga serious
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>grab a shitty free kit
>queue for trios
>someone audibly sighs on mic
>try my best to get the dude on my team with actual gear killed
>listen to his powerless rage
>no way to report me or stop me from getting into the tryhard teams because the game is kinda rushed and lacking basic features

This is more fun than the actual game
That will be -12 less players tomorrow, sorry Bungo
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>>735052329
>level 25 is insufferable to get too
not really? Im like what lvl 53 by now? Its pretty easy to level up
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>>735058809
no extraction shooter costs 300 million. just pulling numbers out of your ass.

still 90% positive on steam with 60k daily players. cope and mald
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>>735058875
Answer.
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Ok but where's the playercount screenshot?
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>>735058976
On steamdb
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>>735036658
I think it's pretty damn good. Bought the special edition and $20 worth of in game currency. It's been great so far.
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>>735058976
taken early in the day today

the haters really are low IQ trash
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>>735058875
>no extraction shooter costs 300 million
what makes you think it didnt? we know the size of the team we know the average salaries of game developers for their studio location we know how long they worked on it
and considering how much money additionally goes into marketing i'd say 250m - 300m is a pretty realistic number
just paying their employees would be 200, only 100 on marketing is being generous when some AAA games spend double their budget on it
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>>735059121
rating is irrelevant when it isnt helping the numbers my man
they need SALES they aren't making shit off redditors feelie weelies
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>>735059229
>90% positive reviews isn't helping the sales numbers

sure guy
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>>735059121
Y u so mad?
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>>735058875
>no extraction shooter costs 300 million
This one did. Likely 400 million considering the theft of IP, last-minute delay pushing the game into this year, and increased marketing.
Now what?
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>>735059127
my dude acting like this is some small project made by a developer that wasn't worth 4 billion dollars lmao
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this is my first time on /v/ in weeks. holy fuck these threads are mentally ill.
anyways i just 1v3'd a team in hauler as a rook and took all their blue gear.
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>>735059315
>pulls number out of ass
>"Now what?"

lmao
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>>735036658
same
it sucks i cant grind it like i want to
i work full time and have a 1 year old so i can only play maybe a couple hours a night if im not too tired
dont get old kids
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>>735058875
It was in development for 6-7 YEARS with hundreds of people on payroll, including overpaid positions that do nothing to work on the game. How much do you think these people are getting paid? Minimum wage?
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>>735059435
>no reply
sad
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>>735052242
didn't bungie try doing this shit with destiny 1 when raids were shortly coming out after launch?
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>>735052329
you can suck dick at the game and stumble into level 25
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>>735059635
to make back 300 million they would have to sell 7.5 million copies.

Do you really think they would have invested so much with such an unrealistic return? stop it with the stupid assumptions and pulling numbers out of your ass.
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>>735059805
>Do you really think they would have invested so much with such an unrealistic return?
Have you been paying attention to the industry for the last decade?
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>>735059805
>retard fails at basic math
Oh nonononono noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Not only is it retarded, it's SUPER retarded! Honestly, I feel bad bullying you at this point.
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>>735059878
it is hard to know what is actually happening with so many armchair dev faggots pulling numbers directly out of their asshole.
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>>735058673
>Marathon is pretty hardcore
apparantly they were going to make it pretty casual for mass market appeal but they let discord trannies gaslight them into cranking it up to 11 in the closed alpha
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>>735060174
Good. I like that it filters casuals
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>>735060421
it's going to kill the studio and the game m8
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>>735060174
>cranking it up to 11
it might be the only niche they can hold onto in this market. Shroud says Arc Raiders is for Dads
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>>735059805
>they would have to sell 7.5 million copies
Tell me how you got that number. I'm all ears.
Please do.
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>>735060481
Isn’t that what you wanted though?
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>>735052242
>Is Bungie fucking retarded?
I could've answered this question for you 10 years ago
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>>735060505
$40 x 7.5 mil = 300 mil

basic math really that hard for you haters?
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man that meme about arguing with lefties is just them pretending not to know whats going on is so true holy shit
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>>735060661
So Valve gets no money?
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>take legendary single player fps known for it's deep story and dark gritty art style
>dig up corpse
>make always-online SaaS flavor of the month slop
>5 years too late for the extraction bandwagon
>give it an offensively terrible troon artstyle that nobody can stand to look at

it's amazing that even one single person gave it the time of day
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>>735060661
they don't get all of that $40
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>>735060761
to be fair there are 130 million steam users and only 60k of those are playing this garbage at a time
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>>735060736
good point. That would have to be all full priced sales and not even taking valves cut into account, so they'd have to sell even more to break even.
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>>735060847
if the numbers covered in chud shit are to be believed. I don't believe any of these speculative faggots who listen to asmongoy
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>>735060661
>>735060736
>>735060847
don't forget about the whales, there's gonna be nolifers that pump $200, $500, $1000 or more into this shit
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>>735060761
still 90% positive reviews on steam, low IQ faggot
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>>735060961
>what is selection bias
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>>735060761
>>5 years too late for the extraction bandwagon
I don't know why, but apparently it takes 10 years to produce mediocre AAA games now.

They have less features and the same graphics as 1-year dev cycle games from the late 2000s. But it takes 10 years. Sometimes longer.

Then after the game is out you find out they scrapped all development 6 months before release and all the paycheck thieves bitch and moan about le crunch over those 6 months.

God I hate game devs so much bros, I hate them, they need to die. We need a purge, we need to take the fight to california
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It's crazy how much sway MandaloreGaming has over video game discourse. No one would give a toss about this if he hadn't made those Marathon videos.
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>>735060819
60k makes it the 2nd most popular extraction shooter on steam though, low IQ fag
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>>735060948
Is there even that much to spend on? No lifers won’t spend just to spend if the game itself is low population. They have to show off to someone for validation.
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>>735060997
marathon always had a cult following, and pretty much anyone who was seriously into halo has at least a surface level understanding of the links between the two games in the old bungie metanarrative
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>>735060997
>MandaloreGaming
Who? No one gives a shit about your ecelebs.
The only reason people are interested in this is because it's being made by Bungie.
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>>735061007
Okay and how much did that number 1 extraction shooter game cost to make? Here’s a hint. No where near what marathon did.
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>>735061037
No, you don't get it. Don't you see? The game has a HYPOTHETICAL super whale who is spending enough money on it to make up for the sales deficit.
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>>735060994
What are you even whining about nigger? This reads like some jaded faggot crying for attention.
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>>735061134
im whining that games take too long to make

you hear about a good game, well it won't come out for a decade.

i was pretty clear about that in my fucking post you lackwit retard. good god. whats so difficult to understand? complaining about jaded fags, do you know where you are? Jesus christ. I really think you should kill yourself
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>>735061192
you first
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>>735061192
What does this have to do with marathon?
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>>735052898
arent there free kits for that reason? failing to extract doesnt lose you anything in that case but you might be able to upgrade for "free"
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>>735036658
I figured out why i liked this game so much. Its literally Spies vs Mercs if you are playing solo.
>free kits rat around like spies
>geared fags are loud and deadly like mercs
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>>735061301
Marathon development began in 2020. It's absurdly late and out of date
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>>735061371
its one of the freshest gaming experiences I've have since destiny 1, faggot
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>>735061416
Let me guess, you're having a blast too?
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>chuds will still get the blame when the game shuts down even though its supposedly doing fine
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>>735061416
It's a real return to form for bungie
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>>735061482
>>735061516
and what have you done this weekend anon
other than be a miserable negative force ruining this board
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>>735061482
Woman response
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>>735061509
I will once again be stating that I did nothing.
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>>735061568
Besides playing Slay the Spire 2 with my friends? Monster Hunter Stories 3? Hanging out with a few of my buddies at a bar? Helping out at the local church and homeless shelter? Cleaning and doing some exercise?
Not much, you?
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>>735061657
Yet here you are in another marathon thread doing “nothing”. Riveting life you live.
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>>735061568
Being a miserable cunt is a full time job, weekends included
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>>735061730
Yet here you are in another marathon thread not playing marathon. Curious!
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>>735061070
>>735061068
You both know I'm right.
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>>735061764
Just played for 5 hours straight. seethe nothing faggot.
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>>735061823
That's not enough! You need to play more, you need to keep those numbers up, anon!
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>>735061823
>he "only" played for 5 hours
Anon, back when I cared about TF2 I would play 6-8 hours during weekdays and something like 12 hours on weekends. This was back before the game went F2P too.
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>>735061873
What a pompous faggot you are lol
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>>735048354
>Can Bungie make it work with a crew of like 50-60 guys?
Maybe. Looking at the amount of content in the game, I don't see why it would need more than 100 people, unless they need more cool cinematics.
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>new map requires a team to do
Solo players will crash out in when they find out they did all those trash quests for nothing lmao, the game is over for them
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are intelligent people attracted to 4chan?
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>>735062102
Is this an actual screenshot from the game?
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>>735062102
LMAO
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>community is on the cusp of solving the final step to unlock cryo
>about to drop just as Crimson Desert releases
LMAO
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>>735062169
Considering how many 4chan users are browns from the third world entire standard deviations below average intelligence, fuck no. It attracts loners, schizoids and other misfits that need to mask anywhere else because only here can you truly be unfiltered.
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>>735061303
Yes but you shouldn't be making that much negative progress just playing some standard queue content. Almost every single run where i brought in the bare minimum of green gear my team has white shields and because voice chat exists i can tell they came in with nothing because they just have no care when we get wiped. A single successful run i extract with an extra gun and some mats and heals/shields which then get used up in the next 3 fails, any addition fails before a successful run is just eating more into your vault and savings.
I actually did run free kits for a few runs and had a higher percent of having geared teammates even running up to blue gear, the queuing is an absolute joke.
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Holy hell this thread got flooded with marketers
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>>735062264
Whats so wrong with that? It's nice having a place where we can be honest. Even if it comes with the occasional shit flinging schizo who's been exiled from everywhere else.
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>>735036658
My friend just gifted it to me.
>HUD has too much fucking bullshit everywhere
>UI also has too much fucking bullshit everywhere
>Ugly, autistic character and weapon designs
>Gameplay is... chill? Nowhere near as actiony as I expected - I like it, runs smooth af
>System requirements aren't that high which is nice
>Only 3 maps and paywalled cosmetics from a game that's $40 (lmao)
3/10 I would never buy it myself
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>>735045780
Idk what’s the source on that? All the mastery skins are called shadow index and refer to it and an elite membership of runners, in the initial trailer for the game when it zooms out you can see an entire matrix of runners, I assume all the tau ceti runners are getting rebooted from the same ship hosting their consciousness floating in orbit, then there’s probably other runner data centers basically owned by cyac and then maybe other ones operated by Arachne or Mida for example. But all of our runners are basically indentured servants
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>>735062568
Did I say anything was wrong with that? Just because I put a negative spin on it doesn't mean I can't be self aware of why we're all here.
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>>735036658
okay
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>>735037059
just make Marathon anime, easy
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>>735045613
Canonically runners routinely get one tapped by UESC, and one another, from what we’ve seen in cinematics, much like in game. they’re not super hero’s they’re disposable grunts. You’ll need to be lenient with the fact that it’s a video game and it wouldn’t be that fun if you couldn’t feasibly kill tons of UESC and not have them stalk you down for 25 minutes the moment you’re spotted once
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>>735049597
I'm Russian and I queue quickly. It's a bit slower when queueing for trio, but nothing compared to Deadlock's 5 minute queue times.
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>>735054079
Had a Rook run like that yesterday, except I left with 3 blue backpacks.
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>>735036658
I'm happy for you bro. I decided not to buy it though.
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>>735036658
Marathon early game of the year contender
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>>735062713
with bungies taste in visuals they'd probably give it to GoHands
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>>735058003
>these numbers are good for a hardcore pvp extraction shooter.
Even if that's the case, this isn't enough considering the game's budget.
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>>735058003
that just means we have a longer time to laugh at you as the game slowly dies a painful death
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>they're making up numbers again
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>>735063889
Who is?
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>>735037059
this could be true if it was free to play but it isn't
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>>735037214
I think you just might be retarded because the descriptions are pretty clear
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>>735056567
errrr seethe bros our response????
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>>735056567
>>Marathon :
>Day 1: 88,337
>ARC Raiders :
Day 1: 264,673
what caused this?
isn't Bungie the famous one backed by Sony?
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>>735063930
Stop pretending you know the game's budget. You are and always will be a low IQ moron.
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>>735064097
You are right
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This shill campaign is getting really desperate.
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Got bored and uninstalled
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>>735064436
Lol!
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>>735064436
? People are allowed to enjoy things even if it isn't successful/good.
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>arc raiders has more players at low times than marathon has at peak times
loooooooooooooool
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>>735064767
>Casual game has more playera than hardcore game
Wow no shit?
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>>735064853
"Hardcore" just means it's more of a Skinner box
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>>735066040
Anon...
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>>735064096
IIRC Escape from Tarkov laid the ground for a large audience for years and then subsequently shit the bed right as Arc Raiders came out. If you want to pull from other's games it's not enough to make something good, but that others fail.
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>>735036658
Tranny shill
Did you have a blast troon
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>>735066131
tarkov has been consistently fucking over their players since day 1, the only thing that kept them afloat was lack of serious competition
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>>735064096
>bunch of troons larping as bungie
vs
>actual battlefield-when-it-peaked dice veterans
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>>735041507
Not everyone plays gayass cards games for stinky niggas



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