>magic box the size of a soda can that plays all those retro classics with perfect hardware accuracy>identical video latency and audio latency to original hardware>supports OEM controllers or any USB controller in existence with zero additional lag>works perfectly headache-free on either CRT or 4k TV with zero additional lag>one shared hardware configuration + update_all script means you never have to worry about issues specific to your setup, and never have to tinker with specific builds or settings. Just run update_all script and it just works perfectly for everyone>all this prebuilt and plug and play for under $200and yet /v/ still for some reason hates it
FUCK YESSS ANOTHER MISTER THREAD, LET'S GO MISTER SISTERSSSSSSSSSSS!!! <3 <3 <3 <3
>>735037061v hates mister. I think it's more full filing building your own with a raspberry pi
>look inside >its emulators that i could just download for free on any of my existing deviceswaow
sounds like too much work honestly. reminds me of those chinkheld shills. "ya bro it can play everything just do a billion steps first"
$190 for android box is crazy bro, you can get them for $40 off amazon..
>>735037136Actual retard
If you faggots weren't retarded you'd build your own. all you need a soldering gun, and a fucking motherboard
>paying for an emulator box>unironically telling people "my emulator box is better than your PC emulation because made-up reasons"
>>735037176>androidit's raspberry pie
>>735037172>literally comes pre-built and pre-configured>too much work>>735037176Android box is a piece of shit, laggy and inaccurate, compared to this. This is for someone who wants an experience just as good as original hardware, no tradeoffs or compromises
>>735037264anyone can build their own MiStr. all you need is to not be stupid
Still not buying one lol
>>735037264Cope harder retard. MiSTer runs circles around even the best and most hardware intensive software emulators even for the hardest to emulate systems like N64, Saturn, and PSX
>>735037270>>software >its hardwaredamn dude
>>735037294the hardware is preconfigured but not the software. ask any chinkheld shill.
>>735037356it's both
>>735037365FPGA is hardware based emulation you retard nigger
>>735037294>>735037270nah, it's the same shit, bro any phone can run this shit at max speed, my galaxy a50 BUDGET PHONE from 2019 sure can.you guys are getting scammed."It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
if you can build it you better know how to program it
>>735037417yes the hardware is preconfigured for emulation but not the software.
>>735037427it's raspberry pi is actually hard to get your hands on
>>735037427Android phones add like 50ms of input lag you colossal retard, and phone emulators are inaccurate pieces of shit.If you're an uncultured retard just wanting to basedface for a few minutss before dropping, use an android shitbox. This is for people that actually care about retro games played properly
>>735037427>phone
Buy an ad.
buy components and make your own
>>735037521>>735037515>>735037482"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."scammed tards.how do you fall of this shit bro it's the most obvious scam, like how even tiktok scams are more elaborate than this.
>>735037515>Android phones add like 50ms of input lag you colossal retard????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????OLED is 0.03ms response timeVulkan drivers have direct flip to the display rather than using the CPU there is no delay to presentAny "android lag" is (You) issue aka OpenGL ESL retard mode.
is being an antagonistic faggot really a viable marketing strategy like can 4chuds really be browbeaten into spending real money on niche tinkerslop also are marketing threads allowed now
>>735037061sorry faggot but my PC already plays ROMs form the 90s for free
>>735037615mister are fun. it's like gunpla but with technology. you can do a anything you want
for $190 more I bought a decent PC to play actual games and I can emulate older games just fine, thanks
>>735037615I'm sorry I didn't read what you said. I wasn't paying attention
buy a soldering gun
>>735037730no wonder you got scammed.
>>735037676A PC does the same thing. You can do anything on Linux. Android is also Linux they have the same Mesa drivers.
every time i ask whats the difference between an emulator and this shit no one can give me a coherent answer and just start talking about MUH ACCURACY like it means anything
>>735037791no wonder you're an assuming retard.
>>735037818are you retarded?
>>735037819it's an emulator device that you can program to do anything you want, but you can make one yourself and save money
>>735037676>you can do a anything you wantso like on a PC?
>>735037819Emulator is free. The scambox is $200 but can be shoved up your ass at any point. We all know what OP picked
>>735037876FPGA is locked entirely to the constraints of ARM and x86 is way better than ARM.
>>735037927>it's an emulator device that you can program to do anything you wantso just like my PC then?
>>735037953dude if you're trying to argue that pc is better, than I know. how do you think you program this little turd?
>>735037997you're missing the point
>>735038016Why bother with hardware mode in PCSX2 when you can run software mode is what I'm asking.
the point is stop being retarded, and just make your own for 1/3rd of the price
>>735038089
>>735037631>response timeAbsolute fucking retard, end your life
>>735038089it's like a little tiny hobby kit for kids who don't want to get fucked
I rather hold the CD, pop open the top cover, insert the CD, click it closed, then hear the static and the glorious PS1 boot up sound.
>>735037061Every other week /v/ likes to shill yet another emu box, oh but this one is the ultimate deal
>>735037061>190 USDyou can build your own for half the price if you're not retarded, just like with PCs
>>735038354make your own
I've been considering getting rid of all my real hardware and just use the mister full time, just keep everything dreamcast or newer.
>>735038398all you need is a soldering gun, and an IQ above 130
>>735038453that's fucking ignorant
I think having a mister just to have one is kind of bullshit. they're right. already have a pc
>>735038089It's a shitty little box for pc illiterate retards and autists willing to shell out $100+ for emulation. No real emulation enthusiast cares about it. Even a fucking flash drive can be used if you're wanting portability.
>>735037061>or 4k TV with zero additional lagSadly the board caps out at 1536p (not a typo). You can run it at 1080p (which can double nicely into 4k) but many screens don't support nearest-neighbor up-scaling and will mess up the image with interpolation and add extra lag. It is the main reason I have not bought one yet. If this has been fixed please let me know.
>>735038453I'm sure it's all shit anyway
>>735037631Response time has absolutely nothing to do with input lag. https://youtu.be/eiAJKMkXYC0
>190 USD to play Sega and NES ROMslmao
why don't you like me mister shill? I bet you're against shilling good soldering guns
>>735038591>No real emulation enthusiast cares about it.Most people running emulators are poor third worlders who are incapable of seeing the benefits of FPGA.
>>735038683I spent more on everdrives 12 years ago
>>735037819It's the easiest way to play retro shit on my CRT. Works like the old systems without having a million A/V switchers and power cords.
>>735038683>they're all free
>>735038742I actually respect ever drives.
>>735038595Upscaling doesn't add input lag, the screen just outputs at a different resolution. MiSTer actually eliminates the necessity for VRR to get low lag with 60Hz with its low-lag mode. It's the only way to get original hardware latency on a 60Hz TV and bypass V-Sync without tearing
>>735037183It's literally an emulation machine with more steps. They just managed to trick a bunch of tech illiterates (you) that it's something special. They aren't replicating the original at gate level, logic level nor circuit level.
>have hundreds of dollars in everdrives, real carts that have special chips (SA-1 etc), scart cables, rgb mods>all invalidated with a single board>>735038782Krikkz is a nigger in my eyes after he started the 3 different versions of every cart to milk retrofags.
>>735038959No, they're replicating it at the sovl level. A zoomzoom like you wouldn't get it.
>>735038959this is what i also dont get, cant you just copy those old PCBs? does nintendo still hold the copyright for something thats 30-40 years old or when does it become public domain? theyre not selling it anymore either
>>735037351tons of emulators "pass all the tests" for their respective systems, except accuracy doesn't imply compatibility
>>735039139Either they haven't replicated the chips yet (decapping is expensive and replicating them is hard) or consumer FPGA hardware just isn't powerful enough. Some systems are replicated tho, Atari 2600 for example.>>735037351Doesn't mean what you think it does. Hear from the dev himself.https://x.com/srg320_/status/1967152373266362546
>>735037061A pretty neat project. I've considered putting a setup together before the all-in-one boards started coming out, but ultimately software emulation does the job just fine for me.That said, I wouldn't expect any of the knuckle-dragging gorillas who make up 2026 /v/ to understand any part of your post, so why bother
>>>735038595That's only if the TV doesn't natively support the resolution, basically every 4k TV in existence supports 1080p. The issue is like 240p causes the TV to use its internal scaler which is laggy.You can always just test it with a high fps camera (like most phones) and confirm. It doesn't add any latency unless you have some weird setting or some other shit
>>735037061>paying ANY money for emulatorsLMAO
it's just not worth that much. the board alone should be about $30 at most.
Why does real hardware+flashcart scare you?
>>735042807Absolute fucking retard nigger
>>735039237No they don't retard, even the most accurate NES emulators failed multiple tests on AccuracyCoin.MiSTer cores have higher compatibility than the most accurate software emulators as well
I barely notice input lag on software, it's not cloud gaming or dial-up levels of bad. Only fightfags care about their characters moving 2 zettaseconds after input.
>>735044265Input lag affects you whether you perceive it or not actually
>>735037061Is it really worth $100 just so the color temperature is 0.5K closer to the original hardware than PC emulation or whatever the fuck accuracy is supposed to imply?
>>735044574It depends on what you want to run on it. If you just want PS1, 16-bit games and handheld consoles pre-DS, then there are a lot of easy options elsewhere. There's more oddities cores in the works [CD-i, 3DO] and the 486 + DOS projects are making progress.
>>735044574Retard, Saturn and PSX software emulators are still trash, this is leaps and bounds ahead, identical to original hardware.Also the latency is huge, people think retro games are way harder than they were due to the massive latency that emulation and V-sync and processing add
>>735044265>I barely notice input lag on softwareNo what happened is you got used to the input lag. If you played on console you would instantly notice the difference.
>>735045963MGS4 runs better on RPCS3 than PS3 (got one) on my PC, no latency loss. Just the config sucks, but I assure you, it's not to fix input lag.
>>735044574>Is it really worth $100 just so the color temperature is 0.5K closer to the original hardware than PC emulation or whatever the fuck accuracy is supposed to imply?I certainty don't think they are the only option but MiSTer FPGA has some nice perks:Vs. original hardware: it is cheaper, more space efficient, lets you pick your controller, and avoids having to mess with expensive upscalers if you want to hook it to a digital display. Also the supply of original hardware is getting smaller with time.Vs. PC: it is lower latency, natively supports original controllers, has native analog output without expensive digital to analog converters. Plus sometimes its just nice to have a dedicated gaming device.
>>735037061>2026>no 4k output
>>735044126i'm not the dimwitted fuckwit overspending on homogenized components. do you seriously sit there and think a low end fpga devboard is worth a hundred plus? lmao kill yourself.
>>735047606Space is a rather odd argument as I've shoved my entire retro setup within a 1.1x1.8 meter square. That includes a 21" CRT, 11 retro consoles and a SCART switch. As for price, I work a minimum wage job. CRTs are cheap as are retro consoles. It's the games that are expensive but you can sidestep that with flashcarts.
>>735049109By the time you get to your second modded rgb console with a flash cart or ode you've spent more than a mister desu. I probably own more hardware than most people here and the mister is still an immense value, for example, I own 4 CPS2 a-boards and 8 b-boards. I really didn't want to spend $300 or w/e for a darksoft multi so I can the couple games I don't own that I may want to play on my cabs. Or I didn't want to spend $400 for an MVS multi cart to play the few games I don't have on my 138 in 1 cart. I don't know why you guys are so vehemently against this shit.
i do most of my gaming on Mister. people on /v/ are too dumb and brown to understand what it is and use case tho. thus much retard seethe itt
>>735049607That's cool dude, still not buying one.
>>735049516Because retro gaming isn't an expensive hobby if you want authenticity even with RGB modifications. In that sense it's just odd that there even happens to be a "poorfag's choice" for people that are supposedly very interested in authenticity and accuracy to the real thing yet unable or unwilling to spend $300 in hardware which in any semi-serious hobby wouldn't be an outlandish spend. Me personally I'd never be able to enjoy a Mister as seeing a Sega CD produce the effects it can, knowing full well what's inside the thing, is infinitely more impressive than a 2026 FPGA. In my eyes it's not any more impressive than my Switch running NeoGeo Magician Lord. That adds to my experience in addition to the authenticity.
>>735049812>Collectorfag can't conceive of someone actually playing games
>>735049937Did you mean to quote someone else?
>>735049937test
>>735039694>Doesn't mean what you think it does.It means no Saturn software emulator comes close to passing as many hardware tests as the MiSTer core, it's miles ahead of Ymir and Mednafen even if it obviously isn't 1:1 with real hardware.>no one can give me a coherent answerIn other words you aren't smart enough to understand what you are being told. >>735045286>Saturn and PSX software emulators are still trash, this is leaps and bounds ahead, identical to original hardware.Yes they are better than software equivalents but neither are identical to real hardware, the DDR3 on the DE-10 is causing issues for both cores and there are still plenty of things which are not fully understood about the hardware, bugs remain and will do for some time.>They aren't replicating the original at gate level, logic level nor circuit level.MegaDrive and NeoGeo are 100% gate level cores, Jaguar uses the original netlists and many chips have been decapped for use in consoles and arcade boards with more on the way.
>>735049812Sorry but techniggers raped arcade board prices. They milked Japan dry of all the cheap boards. Even kusoge ballooned in price. Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire became a $800-$1000 game when it shows up. TGM2 became a $1000+ game. Complete CPS3s are now $1000+, I used to get them for less than what a SF3 new generation CART goes for now. The hobby is fucked and not worth partaking in now. If you want to play on jamma arcade machines, arcade monitors, or CRTs the Mister just makes sense for the average person vs setting up a PC.
>>735050598I'm surprised arcade cabinets were ever below a grand, but since I never really had space for them I never really looked into owning one. I'm honestly fine with using emulators, hardware or otherwise, once the price of owning the hardware just isn't within the scope of a normal hobby. As normal hobby as owning fridge-sized systems can be, anyway.
>>735051021Old candy cabs used to be worthless. That's why so many California arcades had aero cities back in the day, as the new models came out they'd get replaced en-masse and you could get them for nothing. Even domestically you could get them for $200-300. But now a Blast City commands well over $1000.
>>735051143The only cabinet I'd want is House of the Dead 2 and those have been thousands for a decade now.
>>735037061>perfect hardware accuracy
>>735037061Why would you pay nearly $200 for this? You can get a Raspberry Pi for like $50.
emulators and roms are FREE RETARDS
>>735037061Don't care, I can emulate all retro consoles for free on my pc.
show me a video with the visual differences between the 2 and not some made up bullshit
>>735049718then why are you in the thread discussing them? attention seeking faggot
>>735058617That's awesome lad, still not buying one.
>>735058787thanks for the bump. mister grows in power
>>735050434Single ram has minor timing issues for like 1-2% of Saturn games (no other cores affected). Dual ram has no issues
buy an ad
>>735037061>paying for something that's been free since the 1990s>has less features than the free version>plays less games than the free version>the best deal in gaminglol
>>735037351Those tests don't mean that they run games properly.I know you're just baiting. But just in case you aren't - the fact that you think these tests are meaningful shows how little you cunts know.
>>735044256They don't.Edge magazine did an enormous feature about Mister and concluded that it's no more accurate than software emulators (which are free).They even had interviews with the creators.
fpga retards are the audiophiles or wine "connoisseurs" of gaming. they will convince themselves until they're blue in the face that that the .01% difference you get compared to software emulation makes it totally way better, but if you made them do a blind taste test they couldnt even tell the difference. absolute brainlets desperate to waste their money
don't need one, i have original hardware
>>735062847That was a giant misinformation hit piece, and that was also over 5 years ago. MiSTer FPGA has made absolutely massive improvements since then, largely in part due to having the best and brightest, most passionate minds on it, achieving things previously never thought possible. N64 went from pipe dream to decent to pretty good to blowing away software emulators to basically perfect in the span of just a couple years
>>735037061This shit is sold out.
>>735062807Those tests are far more intensive than any game, they represent edge cases that require basically perfect emulation to pass.>>735062847>MiSTer's NES core is the only emulator in existence with 125/125 passes on AccuracyCoin>MiSTer's MD core gets one fail on the single most intensive MD test rom in existence, compared to 3-5 fails depending on version with the most accurate software emulators, BlastEm and Nuked>MiSTer's GBA core is one of only a couple emulators in existence that passes AGS Aging Cartridge (Nintendo's own internal test for their hardware) with 100% accuracy >MiSTer's NEOGEO core is cycle accurate using fucking decaps of original hardware and far better than MAME and FinalBurn>MiSTer's Saturn core has 100% passed literally every test that even exists for the Saturn, blowing away software emulation >MiSTer's latest N64 core build passes all 3667 out of 3667 tests in the most intensive test rom to date. It was already far more accurate than software emus, and is now just running circles around them>MiSTer's PSX core is cycle accurate and has zero compatibility issues compared to the dozens of Duckstation and MednafenThis is all on top of the inherent benefits of flawless video and audio latency, and lagless connection with any controller or display.Now cope faggot
>>735038959An emulator can't get perfect CRT display syncing with neither screen tearing nor input lag. That's the selling point of these things. It's a very niche use case, but for what it does well it's a godsend. You need to stop talking about things you do not understand
>>735063870>An emulator can't get perfect CRT display syncing with neither screen tearing nor input lag.Most emulators these days can force a clean even 60hz output by either over clocking or down clocking the system being emulated. You need to stop talking about things you do not understand
>>735039694>Mister dev retweets pirat_grifter
>>735063537>MUH ACCURACYfucking onions reddit shit
>>735064458>illiterate
>>735064528GETBACKTOREDDIT
>>735037061>190bucksLOL
I bought one last year and I think it's just okay. I still have all my old consoles since childhood, but having an emulator box that easily connects to a CRT and outputs 240p is pretty cool.
>>735064882>just okayFucking retard. It obsoletes original hardware
>>735064576lmao bodied that freak
>>735037183We don't sign our posts here
I'll just buy it on a modern platform and continue with my life
>running circlesI'm having a blast
>>735065873Literally the worst and most expensive way to play it. Bravo retard zoomer
>>735037061No retroachievementsNo speedupNo save statesNo runahead
The amount of people that don't understand that the P in FPGA stands for Programmable is astounding.You're uploading a software program, in this case an emulator, to them, you can look up the source code of many cores on github.>>735050434>MegaDrive and NeoGeo are 100% gate level coresSuch a blatant lie. Are you that ignorant or a paid shill? Even far simpler chips like the SID are emulated at the behavioral level. The Motorola 68000 isn't fully documented.
>>735064458>>7350645764cuck is just green Reddit nowadays
>>735037061>>identical video latency and audio latency to original hardwareNow explain to me why am I supposed to care about this enough to spend $200 instead of just downloading an emulator and some roms for free.
