Why are difficulty romhacks so popular now?
>>735042117because those of us who grew up with pokemon now want to play a game made with adults in mindIt's either that or challenge run autism
cuz gaymes be casual
>>735042117For Pokemon, it's because the official releases are so easy, a difficulty hack brings them closer to what they should be.
>>735042492The ease of normal Pokémon is closer to what it should be than kaizos are or ever will be.
>>735042117because they are FUN unlike the a mashing simulator vanilla is bring back triple battles its fun to nuke 3 of the gym leaders pokemon with one move
>>735042117>games get easier and easier over time>modifications to make games harder become more popular over timetruly we may never know
Zoomers wanted to start feeling anger for once in their lives.
Pokemon doesnt need any more difficulty that getting a team of 6 mons you like that is not 4/6 weak to any random plot fight. Fuck your IV EV bullcrap, its nothing more than a grind hell to containt the autists
>>735042750I wasn't talking about kaizo hacks. Pokemon came out in the 90s. It's easy to look at other 90s JRPGs like SMT or Digimon World and see they're way way way harder than Pokemon.
>>735042117>popularIt seems popular because twitch streamers love them for "content" but none of their viewers actually play them.
>>735042117the difficulty is offset by the qol (really just cheat) features that make them completely trivial
>>735044242Difficultly hacks diagetically encourage catching more monsters than vanilla Pokemon does because you can have battles that you can't beat without specifically developing counters to what the NPC uses. I'm not talking about Radical Red shit where you have to beat some random dickhead who has a team of 6 legendaries and shit. But just normal hacks that boost the difficulty are good. For example, this is a boss battle in Pokemon Lazarus, which I've recently been playing. You as the player have a level cap, so you can't just power level past the boss. Now, I am playing with a self-imposed challenge so that I can only Dark or Ghost type Pokemon, so this fight actually was a bit tough I had to spend some time thinking about countering the boss after I first lost and I went out to catch new monsters specifically to deal with this otherwise tricky bossfight. This was more to encourage me as the player to seek out new Pokemon than vanilla games ever have provided.
>>735042117Radical Reddit ruined ROM hacks.
>>735046035i like this in theory but know that in practice (as with regular pokemon) it will involve 95% grinding and 5% actual gameplayunless this makes exp curve logarithmic and makes you level faster at end game than you do in early game its dogshit gameplay
>>735046163No game with a level cap has grinding, you will basically always be at cap
>>735046229vanilla pokemon has a level cap and i've never hit it, and always had to grind at the elite 4 even when doing every single random encounter and fighting every single trainer i've come across in multiple games
>>735046290no it doesn't? what are you talking about?
>>735046323gym badges increase the level cap retard
>>735046396oh you're just pretending to be retarded ok
>>735046323>>735046290obviously he doesn't get that its a hard level cap (can't go past level X until you beat the gym leader) and you'd otherwise use rare candies, and confuses it with the lvl100 cap
>>735042117The only people making and playing ROM Hacks are autism drenched faggots. Of course they're going to want hardmode shit. They read the fucking code to understand every detail.
>>735042117Pokemon fans don't play other games.
Is Platinum Kaizo new?Where can I get it?
>>735046163>GrindAny sort of hack either adjust XP gain so you reach then current badge cap or put some punching bag to power level everyone then hit the cap in 1-2 fight. Hacks with scaling get retarded fast.EV and IVs are non issue aside horseshit like radical red max difficulty.
>>735042117You have to be beyond autistic to actually finish them but the problem solving and planning can be fun to certain types of people
>>735046035>spreadsheet featuring every single trainer, their mons, items and abilities>challengekek
>>735048905Nothing prevents you from playing blind.
>>735046396Some of them make higher level mons sometimes do nothing. That's different from an actual level cap because you can still level them up.
>>735042117The people playing difficulty hacks are the same people who played the original game 20 years ago, but now they're 20 years older.We do not have young gamers buying games. Young gamers get on the Roblox/Fortnite/Amogus/whatever is THE game ATM treadmill and play that while watching tiktoks.
>>735047691>>735042117Anyone know? I tried googling it and I found that it was released today but I can't find anything about WHERE
>>735042117Plenty of Pokemon fans are autistic enough to care about competitive but not autistic enough to be good at it.
>>735042117i honestly wish difficulty hacks were harder, most of the time they just lazily slap a bunch of legendaries on npcs and call it a day even though those teams keel over the moment setup moves come into playradical red did untold damage to romhacks as a whole
>>735042117Streamers and Youtubers like them.
>Actually force retards to party build and use setup moves instead of just mashing A with overleveled starter>NOOO FUCK THIS AUTISTIC GRINDY SHIT.
>>735048905I played this fight blind myself and only brought up the spreadsheet for the sake of the post. The Mimikyu with Play Rough was hard for my team to beat and was a total shock my first try.
>>735042117Beats me. I'll just never understand difficulty romhacks. If you want some kind of challenge when playing Pokemon, you can just play PVP.
>>735042117>Turn-based rpg>DifficultyThe only "skill" you need is patience to get the numbers to eventually add up in your favor
>adult slot machines
>>735042117I think they are very fun if it is your 10th time playing the game and you can already beat it with your eyes closed
>>735051752sure, have fun playing ms excel
>>735052773Will do
>>735052018Imagine doing both. Most people who have a Showdown account also bother with rom hacks.
>old Pokemon games: Normal Mode>nu Pokemon games: Easy Mode>regular romhacks: Normal Mode>difficulty romhacks: Insane ModeThis is the problem, it's hard to find romhacks that are just Hard Mode. It's either Normal or Insane.
>>735055560unironically Clover
is there a platinum hack with mega rayquaza yet?
I've played every gen but not enjoyed any Pokemon since X/Y, B/W was my favorite, didnt like D/P but skipped Platinum. Is there a rom hack out there that will show me i can enjoy pokemon again or do i just have to accept im never going to play a new pokemon i like again? I played Unbound a few years ago but lost access to the save on my phone and didnt feel like restarting but remember being impressed by what i saw
>>735055560>>old Pokemon games: Normal Mode>>nu Pokemon games: Easy ModeThe hardest Pokemon games (campaign only) are Sun and Moon and Scarlet and Violet. Of course the Battle Frontier is harder, but not really comparable to anything in romhacks.
>>735056791The Modern Exp Share without Level Caps makes everything from Gen 6 onwards Easy Mode.
>>735056926Exp share has zero meaningful effect on the games difficulty.
>>735056926The level curves account for it all the same. People complain about fights like Leon or Geeta being easy because their teams are bad, not because the players consistently get there too high of level. That really isn't the issue. The only difference is that you don't have to switch train anymore. I would like them to make the EXP curve harsher so you can't grind above level par that much. But even without it, if you just play normally, you don't get out of wack that badly. GF did the basic amount of math for that.
>>735056624>>735055560play them as nuzlockes
>>735042117They're not popular, they're streamerbait. Be assured that 99% of viewers watching a Kaizo Ironmon stream won't do runs themselves because it's such a retarded task to even attempt.
>>735049147Mr. Keating is one of the devs and dropped a google drive link to it in his livestream during his live watch of people playing it today. His channel is on youtube.
>>735056926Gen 7 was balanced around the Exp Share, and you would notice very fast how underleveled you could get if you turned it off as soon as you got it. Pretty much every Pokemon game since then has been balanced around the fact that your whole team now gets experience per battle and captured Pokemon. As the other anon said, it's not about levels, it's about newer Pokemon games having piss easy boss fights.
>>735057350surely a randomizer has more depth to itnuzlocking the same routed out shitmons has to get tiring
>>735042117>i can choose to play a game designed for 8 year olds and retards where i can never lose, never have to think about anything, and auto win>or i can play a verison rebalanced by an autist so that you have to pay attention to the gameplay yeah gee, i dunno man, real fucking complicatedi will never play a vanilla pokemon game ever again in my life. i might play more romhacks. the former are bad, the latter can be good.
The problem with the Kaizo games, (and some Kaizo-lite games) is that enemy trainers get access to tools the player never will.I'm fine with boss trainers getting access to legendaries, but illegal sets are retarded.
>>735057671what if you did both?!?!? (make sure to disable legendarys tho)
>>735057493>just find this guys youtube video and search the video for a link and then type the linkjesus christ what convoluted bullshitI could probably just wait a couple days until it's on the usual sites but I guess I might as well do it the hard way now that I know
>>735057740you may be on to something
It’s funny Platinum Kaizo comes out today- yesterday some other autist released a 2 hour video explaining how the gen 4 AI behaves in every interaction lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ORMQcOatSw
>>735057812Oh whoops didn't know he closed the chat for the vod, he had it pinned during the live.If you have twitter @Nuzlocke_Edu posted the drive link to it at 1:05 pm.
>>735056791The hardest Pokemon game is the first one you played when you were 5-8 years old. The easiest is anything you've played as an adult.
>>735042117what are the best romhacks anyway?
>>735061824Girls Hunter
>>735056624You can play like Supernova Sun or an older gen like Renegade Platinum if you're looking for the official game but more fun.
>>735061824Depends on what you like. Drayano's difficulty hacks tend to be the default vanilla + pick for people just getting into romhacks.
>>735042117Because people have stopped growing up, and are constantly trying to recapture the joy they had in their childhood rather than building a current or future life where they can be happy.
>>735061376This and SMT
>>735057560There's only a handful of trainers in the old games that actually had competent teams so that part's not new
>>735042117>fun easy difficulty game about building teams with creatures you find cool>turn it into minmaxed spreadsheet simulator about finding optimal strats and power leveling your team for every single important battle in the gameI don't get it, I tried renegade platinum and just completely lost interest when I got to solaceon and saw they let you level up all your pokemon for free, knowing how much of a nightmare the rest of the game would be. Not my cup of tea, that's not the autism I am interested in
>>735042117>Baby game>Mods out the babyIdk man any guesses
>>735061376I didn't find it difficult as a child either.
>>735062435Renegade Platinum is pretty easy if you actually make use of that stuff. It is balanced for not using it, and it feels like the dev just added that stuff because people would bitch these days if he didn't. Spoilers, but the pic is Cynthia's potential teams (she has a random selection from 4 possible teams), and all are slightly amped up versions of her normal DPPt Champion teams. Check them out if you want assurance that it isn't that bullshit.
>>735062369SMT can be hard when your only choices in demon building are if you want the one with Agi or the one with BufuOnce you can start stacking passives, buffs, damage immunities, and carrying around healers and SP share demons it becomes easy.
>>735063034>SPPersona fag detected. Get outta here.
>>735063136Only purseowner game I've played is 3 FES
>>735042117Pokemon battles that actually use all the mechanics are far more challenging and engaging than anything the game will ever actually throw at you
>>735042117streamers thats it, the average pokemon fan doesnt play these, they just watch someone else play them
>>735063227Sadly most of the romhacks/fangames I've played have your opponent use a bunch of moves and tactics you can't while limiting you to sub 400 BST shitmons.Truth is you can't really make Pokemon hard without resorting to that kind of tactic. I once beat an 'unwinnable' fight in a fangame once with fucking FEAR. You can't stop those kinds of shenanigans.
>>735042117Because pokemon is a legit fun RPG system but it is ruined in the games themselves due to how easy they are. They need a hard mode and to make most trainers double battles. The entire fucking game is designed around doubles now and yet it is usually relegated to like one gym and a handful of trainers.
The last Pokemon fan thing I played was infinite fusionWas kinda neat, I turned on the settings that gave every wild and trainer pokemon a random fusion just to see more of the bullshit
>>735042117SV has been out for over three years, with no new content for over two, and Gen 10 is a year out. People have a craving for Pokemon.
>>735063890ZAsisters...
>>735063310You don't need to stop shenanigans but at the very least pokemon games could actually include double battles against full teams and trainers that make actual use of abilities and proper movesets.
>>735042117Overcompensating
