Is /v/ a HERACROSS or PINSIR board???
>>735043537PinsirkuHeracrossgetaThat explains everything
>>735043537heracross > pinsirmega pinsir > mega heracrosssimple as
>>735043537Step Aside!
>>735043537/v/ is an Accelgor board.
>>735043537pinsir even though we all know that heracross wins every timeheracross can lift like a billion pounds
>>735043537Scyther
pinsir is and has always been a shitmon
PinSirs, assemble>>735044092Who cares how much you lift when you get pinSir'd in yo chestAint got no legs
>>735044123he jobbed to fucking metapod
>>735044123Can't it learn Guillotine?
>>735043537Heracross is basedHe's a GOAT in the Battle Factory
>>735043537Both
my humble opinion
>>735043537Hey OP, your favorite pokemon is Scyther.What's yours?
>>735044872I agree with most of this
I never found a nigga who hated Heracross
>>735043537THIS IS A HERAGODS BOARD, PINCELS FUCK OFF BACK TO CLIUB PENGUIN
>>735044872forettress, vespiqueen and maybe galvantula in S but the rest is fine.Unless the red centipede is only in S because of the wierd fetish thing.
Horns of Fin?
Scyzor mogs them both
>>735046372Fins. Hornfags are closet homos
>>735046372Horns, we've all seen the 9/11 photos.
>>735046372double fangs
>>735044872my bumble onion
>>735046372im more of a lip enthusiast
>>735046342>Unless the red centipede is only in S because of the wierd fetish thing.I just think scolipede is cool is I was ranking for fetish reasons id probably bump pharamosa up
>>735046372>>735046372The black spots on the fins are a straight downgrade from goldeen. Really, the whole design is, but at least the horn is something different
Can someone with an uncle at nintendo tell them to re-balance pokemon stats so bug teams can be vaguely viable?The idea that bugs evolve quickly and therefore should be weaker in the late game does not fit the game model anymore. It didn't really fit in the early version; but now that end game revolves around level capped pvp and max level co-op 'raids', its stupid to have the stat distributions that they do.While they're at it, make Onix the beast he was always meant to be. I want my Onix, Beedrill and Pinsir squad to be good in the next game.
>>735044872Venomoth and Yanmega are in A for me, Tinted Lens is so damn helpful.
I'm still mad at vikavolt's speed stat
>>735046991Goldeen has a horn.
>>735046675Based
>>735043537fuck off hornfags, this is a finboard
>>735044872I don't know what that mustache bug is but I like him and think he should be higher.
Armaldo.>>735044872>No ArmaldoShit opinion.
>>735043537/v/ is a scyther board
i only use REAL pokemon
>>735047720FUCK YEAH, SEAKING
what do you think?!
>>735047831he wasnt on the list, id put him in A though
>>735046839A fellow man of culture
misty's fear over bug types gave me a forced bug sex fetish when I saw the 5 pokemon porn pics online featuring her getting sexed by bugs late 90s that later developed into horror monster rape fetishes
Both, but mostly Heracross
>>735043537Heracross is more minmaxed, so that one, but both of them are shit.Give me Accelgor, Scolipede, Durant, Scyther or Volcarona.
Excuse the fuck outta me but /V/ IS A GODDAMNED TARANTRIS BOARD!
>>735044872pinsir,volcarona and vespiqueen should be on s, pheromosa should be on A or S same with ninjask, the rest I agree
>>735047794that's one of the trash designs from bw
I dunno guys i kinda like the bunny pokemon...
>>735048272D/P
>>735048323no it's from bw.
>>735043537This is a Lokix board.
>>735048418Kricketune? Gen IV.
>>735048519this thing looks terrible, conceptually its cool but the gen 9 style just does it no favors
>>735048195Slut
>>735048519This one looks like absolute fucking garbage, the bug type has fallen.
>>735048272krikatun is gen 4, psycho shit is gen 9. bw haters are deranged
>>735048672>>735048648>Not liking the Kamen Rider Pokemon.
>>735048735That shitmon is a disgrace of a design.
>>735046372>original skub
>>735043537Heracross is for chads
>>735043537Heracross is a creep :/
>>735049010>the weak should fear the strong
>>735049010
>>735048735like I said I like the concept, the way its done is just ugly
>>735049010>Yeah... I'm gonna go see what Misty is doing...
>>735049010Imagine if Heracross was giving you the suck haha that be crazy haha
>>735044872Put nincada in A and Ninjask in S
>>735043537Heracross and it's not even close
>>735043537why can't we all just get along </3
>>735047905Absolutely based.
>>735047831sick artdoes armaldo's mouth work like that
>>735048094buh buh buh BAYAZED
>>735053507Yep
>>735044872>Shedinja and volcarona not being S>ballbag knight and fast (slow) electric bug being SYour opinion should be humbler gay boi
It was obviously supposed to go pinsir>heracross like it did scyther>scissor but then they fucked it all up and pokemon was shitty gooner shit ever sense
>>735054026Volcarona is literally just a red moth. It's red Venomoth. I will never understand the glazing of this thing. Shit, even Centiscorch is more interesting.
>>735054198Venomoth can't even compare to Volcarona.>I will never understand the glazing of this thingA bug in Gen V, which finally gave Bug-types a huge break and a unique typing to boot.
>>735055636But you have actual sick-ass bugs like Galvantula, Genesect, and Crustle. Volcarona is just a red fucking moth.
>>735043537Pinsir was a childhood pick of mine while my brother's was Scyther so there you go. Granted had we gotten into Gen 2 I probably would've also gone Heracross and my bro Scizor.
>>735055706>You can only like one bug
>>735044872Yanmega should not be in C tier.
Durant is my favorite bug type pokemonSomething very satisfying about an extremely small creature that's obscenely strong
>>735056196Based pick, one of the most badass-looking bug mons
>>735048778>shitmonThat thing can fucking decimate teams, the fuck are you on about?
>>735043537Neither.
>>735058597Why does Ash have a mustache?
>>735058678>ash has defined cheekbones>drawn in a stylized way>skip forwards 20 years>new artist looks at old design, his brain only sees lines on cheeks>well gotta have squiggly lines, that's ash designThe reason is that new artist is a retard who doesn't know what was looking at.
>>735058678he pushing 40s man
Neither. Scyther is better in any regard
>>735044208sparkledart herethis is going to be the next album art
Dragonflies are cool.
Kleavor > Scyther > Scizor
>>735044872how do you put volbeat under illumise? volbeat has tail glow
>>735043537I love Pinsir. Didn’t care for him as a kid but he’s one of my favorite Gen 1 mons these days. Just wish he was better
>>735059534scizor has technician and bullet punch
>>735044872>Hating on based LokixBro is singlehandedly proving why route one bugs don't have to be shitmons, give it some credit
>>735059731Who fucking cares, abilities ruined the game
>>735043537I think it's gay that so many pokemon like those two were never given an expanded evolution line.
>>735059865they both got mega evolutions
>>735059909and both of them are dogshit
>>735059865saying that they need evolutions is basically the same as saying you don't like them as they arein which case, why do you care if they get an evolution or not?
>>735060014because seeing a pokemon evolve was one of the coolest aspects of the franchise, it's like you weren't alive during the early days of pokemon.
>>735059849How?
>>735059731Scizor also looks like a different Pokemon while Kleavor built off of Scyther with a good typing and a good design to boot.
>>735043537heracross is cooler, pinsir looks retarded
>>735060082I was yes, now I'm in my 30s and don't appreciate having extra gameplay chores to do
>>735060014pinsir and heracross have a 500 BST them and scyther are the only good bug pokemon outside of genesect
>>735044872>lokix in Cyou will face a cruel and obscene death
>>735060096good question
>>735060226Can I get some context here? Aren't these pokemon bad
>>735060150they didn't get banned like Volcarona and Phermosa didPeople use Ribombee and Araquanid all the time for setting Sticky Web mostly but they can also do some other trolling tooLokix and Slither Wing are smashing up UU by spamming First Impression to kill anything that dares to be below 1/2 HPEven back in the day Forretress saw more usage than Pinsir or Heracross just because it was basically proto-Ferrothorn that could rapid spin and suicide bomb and kill you at any moment
>>735047905trvke
>>735060082This, those two are decent on their own but seeing how far they can go makes each new gen a treat to look forward to because there was a chance your favorite got a new form. The mega evos weren't the way to go. It sucks that some fan games and romhacks are the only way to regain that spark that Gen II and IV had with me.>>735060148Dumbest post of the day, and it's only been 82 minutes so far.
Metapod all day 'ery day
>>735060415Torkoal sets up sun and Pelipper sets up rain just by sending them out. It's incredibly fucking broken.
>>735060415before gen 7, yesin gen 7, left got Groudon's ability and right got Kyogre's. This instantly made people start designing weather teams around them. Ninetails and Politoed also gained those abilities previously in gen 5.Pelipper effectively made Politoed obsolete since despite the rock weakness, it has Roost, U-Turn, and can actually use its own Rain to use STAB Hurricane and Politoed can't do any of those things and doesn't really have anything notable about it other than summoning rain Torkoal on the other hand wasn't a straight upgrade over Ninetails, it could Rapid Spin and could do shit like Trick Room Eruption but Ninetails has its own utility like Encore and Will-O'Wisp. People still use both Torkoal and Ninetails today
>>735060627You mean Transel the detached penis?
>>735060739You people worship trannies so much you're taking old things and turning them into trans icons.
>>735060915>you peopleExcuse me, you inbred child raping kike.
When I was a kid I thought heracross was the evolution of pinsir like scizor to scytherI know they aren't but my mind still wants it to be true
>>735059548its just based on design
>>735060226I like peplipper design
>>735062024he looks like a toilet
>>735043537>pure bugHe wouldve been a good bug/rock type
>>735043537Love both desu
>>735044872Move the snail, scoliosis and heracross dow.Move Pinsir, Scyther, Vespiquen and Shedinja up.
>>735058485Volcarona, a real competitive bug, shits all over your shitmon.
>>735048085Nintendo official seal of approval?
>>735049079kek
>>735063419He cute, I use him since gen 3. Evry gen
>>735064734volc's only ever been good in shingles
>>735043537This has always bugged (heh) me: why isn't electric effective against bugs? I mean, I know it already fucks up any bug type associated with flying, but if we're doing associations, then bug zappers are a super obvious thing to go for.
>>735043537It was peak grim that we were fucked over in gen 2 with Pinsir. Seeing Scyther get an evo and Pinsir missing out just to find out that one was planned sucks hard.
>>735043902Get that scizo out of here
>>735049079thanks doc
WHY FOR HERACROSS #1
>>735065652Scyther's evolutions are not traditional evos, they have the same stat total. That Pinsir looks like a regular "it gets bigger" evo.
>>735043537I thought Pinsir was retarded until I played Gold and there was Heracross. Heracross is what made me open up to Bug Pokemon as a kid, so I gotta give it to my boy Heracross.
>>735043537It’s a BEEDRILL board
>>735047794It's a bug, but also a cello. He plays himself like a cello. Because he's a bugcello.
why are bug pokemon all shit? volcarona is the only good one
>>735043537This in a Scyther board. Edgy as fuck.
>>735067248Scizor was one of the best pokemon regardless of being a bug. Hell, Tyranitar has one of the worst types in the entire game with Rock/Dark but he's one of the best pokemon. It just depends on what they can do.
Gravity Beetle > Boomer Kawanger
>>735067461what's so bad abour rock and dark?
>>735046372This is a horn board, finfags need to leave.
>>735044872shedinja belongs in s+ tier
>>735047794DELELE WHOOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REindeX7ZHg
>>735067814>KrickeCHADThat is fucking great
we love d!ckpinchpinsir every time
>>735047831How did it take me 24 years to realize this dudes eyes aren't red.
>>735068219Don't worry, I'm also retarded. I can never remember where this guy's eyes are.
>>735068336Its eyes are the yellow dots above its mouth.
heracross is a cutesy uwu faggot. one of the biggest victims of the gen 2 cuteification of pokemon.pincer is a badass who looks cool even in the modern artstyle.
>>735068336Their eyes are the same as curse frogs
>>735067570>punches or kicks youPssh nothing perssonel kiddo.
>>735046372I met a finfag irl once and he was crawling inside the mens bathroom of a TGI Fridays with his phone on a selfie stick trying to snap photos of dudes taints. He asked me if I would step on his nuts for 20 bucks. Once I had the cash I swore I would never eat at TGI Fridays again
>>735067570It's offensively strong, but weak to half the type chart, and most of those weaknesses are extremely common.
>>735044872Pretty good. But I'd put Beedrill in S since I always use him. He's very cool and a core member of my team.
>>735068761>two eeveesI can forgive one, but two is fetish territory
>>735053807Cute bug
>>735068814you're a faggot kek the only loser here is flareon.
>>735044872I've never been big on bug mons but Vikavolt was the only design in that whole gen I liked. Shame it's so slow.
>>735068814Well, Jolteon was the only one for the longest time, so I refuse to get rid of it, but I thought Sylveon was cool too. Before, Sylveon would have been Pidgeot.
>>735043537reminder pinsir and scizor were both beat by shit tier pokemon>corphish and torracatlol lmao
>>735043537>heracross pooped on by a blastoise, darkrai and a fucking venusaur of all thingslmao
>>735065289What. It's great in dubs.
>>735065652I've always been a scytherfag but it was bullshit that we got a steel scyther and he couldnt even face off against Dark Pinsir evo. Instead we get put against that fucking shitter heracross and have to pretend he's a serious rival like pinsir used to be.
>>735067248Like 80% of them are quick evolving early game pokemon so they're useful for about two hours of the gameButterfree getting Confusion shits on about half of Gen 1 at least, and Mega Beedrill turned out okay, though only so much could be done if they weren't willing to boost its stats even harder.
>>735066421Scizor would be insane if it was as fast as Scyther, kinda wish the Mega leaned into that
>>735043537anyone got a rom hack of crystal where i can get all 150 pokemon without trading?
>>735047981>It's an older meme, but it checks out
>>735067570Ground fighting and water are some of the most common coverages and rock/dark is weak to all of them. the other two, electric and ice, it *only* takes neutral damage from.
>>735069276scizor has always been about dropping speed for bulk. if you wanted a scyther that was as fast as scyther, you have scyther.
>>735069280Crystal Legacy.
>>735069280an unmodified rom of crystal allows you to get 206 pokemon without trading
>>735043537It's my wife Lovander board.
>>735043537Bug types fucking suck
>>735070765t. Bulbasaur.
>>735046372Horn. I don't like using Seaking, but any reason to use them is horn related.
>>735043537Heracross is coolee, /v/ is lame.Pinsir.
>>735046372For me? It's the mohawk
>>735067570Seven deadly sins.
>>735060524lmao this baby Heatran
>>735043537Dickpinch
>>735043782based
>>735067248Being small, weak, and stupid is just a part of a Bug's identity. Like, pick any type and you could justify a reason why it would be super effective against Bug.
>>735067570Rock is one of the worst types.>Defensive type>Actually been consistently bad at being defensive since gen 2. >Only relevant as a offensive type>But most users are designed with slow and defensive in mind>Basically just worth it as a covering type.
>>735073760You forgot to mention rock moves have historically just been shit. Stone edge has awful accuracy and only 8 max pp, or you can cope with rock slide which is only 75 bp and can still miss. Even rock blast was considered lol.
>>735043537Beedril. I hate wasp but i'd love using them to stab my enemies.
>>735043537Pinsir is the best pokemon.
>>735043537only gen 1 matters so pinsir
>>735043537It's a "go back to vp" board.
>hey guys, let's make a worse volcarona>can least make it cute?>no.
>>735074545I wanna ____ that moth
>>735044872Yanmega that low is insane, and Scyther and Scizor should probably be flipped. Also Golisopod is like 2 tiers too low.
>>735049010gyaru knew the risks when she went to that part of the forest.
>>735074545Snom is kawaii as fuck bro.
>>735056196Love Durant, bro needs a busted female only evolution.
>>735047720>edited image for normalfags
>>735074809I find it strange that they gave Heatmore a super good signature move, but they gave Durant truant as a hidden ability. What the fuck.
>>735075101They really like the truant + entrainment gimmick even though it's total shit
>>735075101Durant can learn Entrainment which lets you put Truant on an enemy. It's not a particularly good strategy, since Durant is not a good Pokemon, but it is funny.
>>735043537Why is the Pokopia spinoff Pokemon way better than any other Pokemon game before?
>>735043537I'll never understand why gamefreak didn't make heracross an evolution of pinsir. Clearly heracross was designed as the counterpart to scizor in the same way that pinsir was the counterpart to scyther.
>>735075176>>735075205>field a shit pokemon and spend a turn just to make your opponent have the same bad ability you dothey could've at least given it skill swap so it would end at some kind of advantage state.
>>735074545LOOK AT THAT FLUFF I MUST TOUCH IT
One time i was playing somebody in Pokémon stadium, I was basically unbeatable at that game.I beat his whole team with Pinsirs guillotine
>>735044872your opinion is a power rating chart?weird, there's no opinion in that>all the strong ones at the top>weak ones at the bottom
>>735075373There is zero purpose in changing your opponents ability. They can just switch out and get it back.
>>735043537Heracross is cooler.
>>735075452>Vespiquen>strong
>>735047905Scyther has no beef with Pinsir or Heracross.THIS is his greatest rival.
Pinser is cooler.
>>735075508electabuzz is a jobber
>>735075508lol no, Electabuzz is with Magmar
>>735043537both are the nortubel of pokemon
>>735047981SEAKING SEAKINGoil paintingsSEAKINGDALLAS? SALLAD.
>>735044872yanmega should be A because helicopters are cool
>>735075472forcing a switch has value, the problem is Durant lacks the threat level to make someone want to switch away. bro is rocking that sub 500 BST you'd expect from a middle form.
For me, it’s KABUTO And KABUTOPS
>>735048519Too humanlike
>>735067248Bug type itself is not very good and for some reason GF decided to nerf it even more by making fairies resistant to bug.
>>735043537
>>735076031yeah, fairies resisting bugs makes no sense. i've seen enough hentai to know faeries are actually quite weak to bugs.
>>735076031it's also resisted by 6 other types.
>>735076031They had to make the new shiny type as broken as possible
>>735076381>make a new type to fuck with dragons>make it fuck with what was arguably already the worst type
>>735044872Where's Lurantis???
>>735076456Yes, they made it fuck with ice type by taking its main function.
>>735076523ahem
>>735046372Let me guess, you need more?
>>735076580>plants>plants pokemon>NO ANIMALS EVER NOT EVEN A FUCKING MOSQUITO>animal pokemonwhy why why why why why WHY IF THERE ARE NO NORMAL ANIMALS THEN THE WORD MONSTER HAS NO FUCKING MEANING BECAUSE POKEMON ARE THE NORM
>>735076580Isn't this thing a praying mantis? How is it not a bug
>>735076580It's kinda embarrassing that you're using a defaced bulbapedia article to try and prove me wrong. Next you'll tell me that this ISN'T a grass type.
>>735076456It's all thanks to U-turn. That move was a mistake.
>>735076676I think Gamefreak knows making it part bug would have been a nerf lol
>>735076102What’s wrong with him? Then he becomes gigachad
>>735047969Cool art
>>735076709nice try, that's obviously a bug type. look at that glorious beetle horn.
>>735044872>Crustle and Parasect in C
>>735044872Where Frosmoth?
did claude beat pokemon or no?
>>735076834no retard this is the bug type pokemon, the bug gym in scarlet and violet uses him
>>735076941You know, if you look at the "ears" as eyes and the C as a mandible mouth it looks a bit bug-like, it's understandable why the bug twink made that mistake
>>735076941I've seen him climbing into a beehive so i can confirm he's a bug type.
>Heracross is cool as fuck>only found by headbutting a few specific trees on a couple of specific routes>isn't even used by any trainersGen 2 really didn't want you to catch or even see the new pokemon
>>735043537unironically one of the best pokemon designs
>>735077110Even back then the kanto pandering was strong
>>735077110that's because gen 2 had a different philosophy than all the gens that came after. It wasn't "here's a brand new start" it was "here's a sequel to the popular pokemon game!" it's like Dragon Quest 2, it builds on the first one but you still expect to see Drackys and Slimes.
>>735077110>houndour, murkrow, slugma, and mismagius can't be caught until post game>wobbuffet isn't even good>dunsparce is rare as fuck despite being terrible>heracross is dogshit in gen 2>aipom isn't available until later when you'd already have a furret which is better>whitney makes you not want to use miltank>what is skarmory?>what is mantine?>delibird
>>735076676It's a joke that the orchid mantis pokemon is an orchid pretending to be a mantis and not the other way around
>>735077215Yeah, I get it was more of a sequel than anything else, but what was advertised and getting the kids hyped up were the new pokemon. They'd already shown off a few in the anime before the games had come out but good luck finding them in G/S/C.
>>735043537Pinsir is such a weid pokemon. Half its movepool is fighting moves but its pure bug. Movepool and stat wise is just a worse heracross in nearly everyway
>>735077369This is the thing as wellEven when you could find them they were more often than not total shitmons
>>735077369>wobbuffet isn't even goodWobbuffet pretty much guarantees the opposing mon dying unless it it a poisoner or happens to run a move not based on its best stat.
>>735077369unironically for the longest time thought skarmory and slugma were gen 3 pokemon
>>735077519One of the beta gen 2 sprites was what looked like a bug/steel pinsir evolution to match scizor, but it looks like they scrapped that idea to make it a rival to heracross instead
>>735077546Nobody wants to trade mons like that in-game because you'd have to fucking heal it after every battle and it can't win any fights on its own. Total garbage.
>>735077576I thought the same with Chinchou and Lanturn
>>735077576slugma balls lmao gottem
>>735077417You were suppose to discover them. That was the idea.
>>735077652Then they should have indicated to the player that they could be discoveredThere's some pokemon introduced that aren't even used by any of the trainers with no indication of how to get them, or by the time you can get to them you're pretty much at the end of the game anyway (pic related)
Am I retarded for always getting stuck in Kanto in Gen 2? I can never remember what you have to do to unlock access to half the map. Even right now all I can recall is that you have to do something with the power plant
>>735078591you need the radio upgrade to wake up the Snorlax in front of DIGGET's tunnel, so maybe you were FAT and RETARDED
>>735043537Pinsir for being og even though he was absolute garbage and I'm sure the knockoff digimon beetle could kick his ass
>>735077519I used to play Pinsir and just guillotine enemies to half health and then switch mons if it was a tough match and if not finish them off with tackle. He’s pretty annoying actually for just cutting anyone down to 50% health.
>>735078756Anon... thats not what gillotine does, youre thinking of super fang which i dont think pinsir can even learn
>>735077867That’s what the guidebooks were for
>>735079172I think that might be an actual bot post
>>735067248because they are meant to be bad shitmons, they evolve quickly so you'll see their final evo during the earlygame while still being low enough of a level to ditch them for something actually good
>>735079457Vikavolt having 0 speed makes no sense.
>>735079974>Pokedex: This pokemon can run around at the speed of sound, he's places to go, gotta follow his rainbow>has 45 speed
>>735080123My favorite fun fact is that Miltank outspeeds Rayquaza
>>735080123Not sure if that's the pokedex for Escavalier or Vikavolt
>>735080173what the fug :DDD
>>735080173I always thought it was neat how ultra beasts have prime numbers for their base stats
>>735043537I never got Heracross in the games and Pinsir always looked like a mean motherfucker, so probably Pinsir. They're both cool though.Personally if I'd put a bug on my team it would be Scyther/Scizor or Beedril.>>735044872What's the ladybug one in B called? Is it any good?
>>735043782I don't remember posting this
>>735075276not made by gamefreak
>>735080390That's Orbeetle, and no, it's not any good, but it looks like a UFO which makes it cool.
>>735080491whoops responded to the wrong anon>>735080371>>735080491
Rokusho>Metabee
>>735048672>one shit
>>735077110>he doesn't listen to the radio and the info you get from phone callsgen 2 is wasted on plebians like yourself
>>735080639If you're gay maybe lol
>>735075297>I'll never understand why gamefreak didn't make heracross an evolution of pinsir>Making a Hercules Beetle an evolution of a Stag BeetleThat is unironically an uncultured take. The Japs take their bug autism seriously.
>>735043537Man I love Heracross's dumb look. No thoughts are running through his head while Pinsir is seething
>>735081401Scyther Scizor and Kleavor all have the exact same BST at 500. Pinsir and Heracross also have 500. They could have been evolutions.
>>735080271 The prime number thing is peak nerdshit and I kinda love it. Ultra Beasts really were Game Freak’s “what if Pokémon were coded by aliens” moment. Prime BSTs, weird asymmetrical spreads, names like they’re SCPs. Meanwhile regular mons out here breaking the sound barrier at 45 speed and getting outrun by a cow.
>>735081401oh my mean like a gnat turning into a moth?
>>735044119BasedScyther is the best unlike his evos (a feminine troon and a bearded dude)
pika
>>735044872The ridiculous lancer thing belongs in D tier
Both. All bugs are good bois and glurs. WHY HAVEN'T WE HAD A BUG STARTER YET IT'S NOT FARE!
>>735044872what the heck is forretress supposed to be
>>735047720Thank you for censoring f*g
>>735082491Sexo
>>735043537go back to your containment board faggot
>>735082491Bagworm
>>735082491A free one-shot for Fire types
>>735082491It's a bagworm.
>>735043782Same. I want to like Mega Heracross but Skill Link is such a boring ability and lol 185 atk just delete everything at will is such a boring playstyle.
>>735043537Loved Pinsir as a kid but Heracross would definitely win.
>>735047905based
>>735082876Depends. Both Pinsir and Heracross get mega forms, but Pinsir's mega gives it Aerialate which turns all of its normal attacks into flying, which Heracross has a double weakness to.
>>735076627Remove the horn
>>735076031It was to nerf U-turn more than Bugs in general.
>>735083290Which was only an issue because flying types got u-turn more consistently than bug types themselves did kek
We need a fire ant regional form of Durant that is Sp.Atk based and has an ability that's like a special form of Hustleand a pure rock form of Heatmor in the same region
>>735083290That doesn't make sense. Volt Switch is still a thing and they didn't nerf Electric
>>735082115Do what they did with Scyther for Heracross and Pinsir then, two evos that distribute their stats elsewhere while keeping the BST the same.
>>735083624volt switch was always worse than u-turn because it is countered by ground types. You can't stop a u-turn from landing, so it's much more consistent.
>>735083624Volt switch has less distribution and a whole type that can nullify it
I don't understand Goy Freak's logicWhy bother making moves bug if bug types have the least access to it?They also give the moves higher than average power too
>>735083985>uses ur best bug move in ur waynothing personnel kid
Redpill me on the new game. Wanted to get it for my wife but she must be the only woman in the world who plays video games but never played Pokémon. She does like Animal Crossing and the new one looks like it incorporates some of that style of gameplay. Anybody tried it?
/VP/ FAGGOTSJANNIES DO YOUR FUCKING JOB
>>735084549they need more pay. at least double
>>735083156Majestic
>>735046372plenty of pokemon have horns none have fins quite like seaking, may as well be crazy about weedle
>>735084860make him more round like a ball
>>735084549/vp/ is not a containment board newfag.
>>735084982Sorry that's well beyond my PSfu.
>>735058597time to hit the gym
>>735084860>>735084982
>>735084975How do you even reply to this without sounding mad?
>>735084369Pokopia is great, it’s basically dragon quest builders with Pokemon, so like a animal crossing x Minecraft
>>735077186Do you guys see him looking autisticly at you or do you see him smiling?
>>735085609Who painted my Voltorb to look like a retarded fish?
>>735085614mega evolve -> aerilate frustration
>>735085704Cool, thanks. She likes Minecraft and Dragon Quest too, but only played the regular games.>>735084549>stop bumping e-celeb threads off the board nooooooo
>>735084549Its very funny how backseat jannies think their Twitter screepcap, steamchart, /pol/ shit deserves to be on the board but videogames doesn't.
>>735044187>PinSirskek
>>735084860The war is over
>>735085725>frustrationThat sounds pretty mad.
>>735087260If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
>>735044872No fuckin Durant? Shit list
>>735077576I thought Torkoal was Magcargo's evo.I was even more disappointed when i found out Torkoal was shit anywas
>>735089458now THIS is retarded
>>735089458Why would a snail evolve into a tortoise?
>>735046372I just think seakings horn specifically is mediocre as hell.
>>735089567why would a fish evolve into an octopus?
>>735043537I do not care for Pinsir enough to call myself a fan but 80% of my online time with Gen six and seven was using his mega. Moxie with Feint/sword dance/Trash/Storm throw. That and calm mind draining kiss Sylveon.
Dunsparcejust Dunsparce
>love ledian>my favorite bug of gen 2, yes, even more than heracross>always a jobmonArceus, please give my mon ledian something on the new game, i saw him on the trailers, please, you already gave Delibird a robot form, all I ask is for some justice for ledian
>monotype shitmon or dualtype chadIs that supposed to be a question?
>>735091863but they did. orbeetle
>>735091863Check out Polished Crystal, Ledian gets a nice glowup in that hack, Ariados too.
>>735043537Pinsir bites your dick off while Heracross sucks you off. The answer is clear, here.
ENTER
>>735085609Ballin'
Is she abysmal dogshit? Yes. But she's my abysmal dogshit.
>>735095876I stand her because she's pretty
>>735096304>STAND: Hip to fuck bees.
>pinsirthat retard still doesn't realize it isn't a fighting type.
>>735046372How about using a water type worth a shit?
>>735048735you'd think having Kamen Rider as inspiration would lead to a badass looking motherfucker
>>735096882>Water type worth a shitBoring. Might as well just Mudkip the entire region away.
>>735079974it's a gradius ship, vic viper starts slow until you get enough powerups. that's why the last move it learns is agility.
>>735093260No they didn't, Orbeetle isn't any better.
>>735095876There was a guaranteed vespiquen encounter in SV. The fun part is that they removed her signature moves.
>>735044872>no Armaldo>no Durant>no Frosmoth>no Centiskorch>no SpidopsPathetic.
>>735101682Okay, I understand removing moves for pokemon that aren't even in the game. Sure, if you can't get Victini, then V Create doesn't need to be there. But why the fuck would you get rid of signature moves from a pokemon you can still catch
>>735089745It made more sense in its original design when it was a gun becoming a tank.
>>735101931because gamefreak
>>735101262>Orbeetle isn't any better.eh.
>>735089745Octupi are superior lifeforms
>>735102152Ledian has iron first four an ability. It learns comet punch and has 35 attack. Ridiculous.
>>735102152Yeah, both it and Ledian need evolutions badly, mainly Ledian. A lot of Gen II was outright trash, and still is. Sunflora and Delibird to name a few.
>>735082803We're talking about designs you fucking deranged smognigger. Holy fuck, why are you insufferable faggots everywhere? No one ever mentioned compfaggotry and yet you felt the need to bring it up anyway. Not only can you not stay contained in your threads on /vp/ but you have to go out of your way to shit up /v/ Pokémon threads too. Compfags should be banned on sight.
>>735091863I love Ledian as well, but I don't want anything for him. I like Typhlosion and him having a faggot cousin who is him but stronger pisses me off, and I love good ol' Rhydon but can't stand that ugly thing he evolves into.
>>735077652>You were suppose to discover them"Discovering" Larvitar and Misdreavus when the only thing left is a single battle against Red.
>>735102685>/v/>WTF WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY yeah not suprised there
>>735091863Ledianbros have to suffer alongside us Ariadoschads. Liking any gen2 mon is bad enough, gen2 bugs are pure agony.>GF finally buffs Ariados after 20 years of being unusable>+10 spdef lol
Badass
>>735095876shes good but the male should have an evolution where it turns into either a huge wall or the whole beehive
>>735102858>make a ghost gym leader>don't give him the only new ghost mon you put in the gameI would really love to hear one of the devs explain what they were doing
Why did they ditch this feature? Having all the Pokémon be a slightly different hue would be great. It should be fine with 3D Pokémon, is it just because they need to match 1:1 with their plushies?
>>735103873If they're still gung-ho about keeping Spinda's gimmick, I don't see why they didn't keep this. Though GF didn't make stadium, HAL did.
>>735103873They don't really take things from the side games.>>735104236Actually the Stadium was made by Nintendo in house. HAL did Snap.
>>735046839oh my...
>>735103617Gen 2 gym leaders are fucking abysmal >4 fucking Johto mons used across all 8 leaders
>>735104736Nothing wrong with that. These mons weren't represented in Kanto gyms and Johto and Kanto together have nearly a full league of all types, missing only Dark. They obviously weren't thinking of the rosters of Pokemon being separate, but shared in totality across both games. A kid who played Green/Red/Blue/Yellow and then Silver/Gold/Crystal may never have used most "Kantomons".
>>735104875>These mons weren't represented in Kanto gymsAnd the world was just crying out for pidgeys, magnemites and the cocoon-stage early bug evos in gymsAnd as a kid who played the first games and then the second, I just wanted to see the new pokemon that they'd advertised and had been teasing in the anime
>>735104736>falkner doesn't use hoothoot>bugsy doesn't use herscross>whitney is hot>morty doesn't use misdreavus >chuck is a gay man who is only married to throw off suspicion >jasmine has a steelix, but she should have also had skarmory>pryce has piloswiine but he could have had >delibird instead of seel>claire is fineGee clair, two dragonairs? That might be egregious, but you get what you get. >the dark type was added in gen 2>there was not a dark type gym until generation 8 with sword and shield
>>735048085>>735064769You silly boys! :3
>>735094648You want to fuck Heracross?
>>735105752>You want to fuck Heracross?Why, do you not?
>>735106062I've never consider it.
>>735104736>balls of steel>giant snakeI see...
>>735043537Pinsir is a gen1 pokemon with shit movesHeracross rapes with both good bug and fighting movesStopped playing in gen2, so don't even bother coming up with weird builds for pinsir
>>735107469Don't worry, Pinsir is garbage even with the later gen expanded move pool.
>>735102547>SunfloraIf it was any time to retcon a Pokemon's evolution method, this would be it right here. Gen X better pull a Gen IV and fix all of Johto's remaining shitmons.
>>735107693
>>735108064>be gen 3>make an in game trade evolution>in pacifilog>trade your bellossom for a corsola>in a game where there is only one sun stone>despite there being two pokemon that evolve with a sun stone
>>735055706It's massive, blows fire everywhere, and has incredible stats and movepool
>>735109931It gets Quiver Dance, which also makes shitmons like Butterfree really fucking good, but Volcarona is already good on its own.
>>735109429I really wonder how competent GameFreak really was, not just with programming but with a lot of stuff in general. Bellossom being worse than Vileplume is still no excuse to trade it for a Corsola.
>>735111404It's an entire thing. In XY, there is a trade you can do with your Luvdisc to get a Steelix, but then in DPPt there's a trade you can do to with your Medicham and her Haunter which is holding an Everstone, so it wont evolve into Gengar.
>>735110140Butterfree has never been good. but it's still better than beautifly i guess
>>735111667>but then in DPPt there's a trade you can do to with your Medicham and her Haunter which is holding an Everstone, so it wont evolve into Gengar.I remember doing this and being pissed off because I did something else and couldn't reset without doing it over again. This was before I got a second DS to do trades with.
>>735112138butterfree has sleep powder and compound eyes retard
>>735112307so? it's too slow to use them
>>735112307>quiver dancemhmm
>>735059384>the next
PUT ME IN COACHI'M READY
>>735048735>LokixMan this thing has a lot of potential but the art looks fucking awful.
>>735082313we were robbed
>>735113262claude is not ready to deal with shedinja
>>735113403is this what scizor was going to look like
>>735113262how do you counter this
>>735113408claude isn't ready to deal with a patch of funny coloured ground
>>735113778
>>735113378I seriously don't get what everyone keeps saying about it looking bad. What about it is bad? Its design is great, it using the back legs to do kick attacks is cool, its shiny is Zero-One, it looks cool in the overworld, and Nimble itself is also cool.
>>735114063I caught a shiny one so I like the little faggot but it isn't exactly good. What do you like about it
>>735114063>what about it is bad?the fact it looks like a hunk of cheap plastic honestly, I get it's a robot but it doesn't make parts look any better to meGenesect is a bug robot that looks much cooler even though I also think it has room for improvements itself, it has more consideration for how the limbs attach and the shapes meshing with each otherLokix looks like it hasn't finished rendering
>>735114186>Great colors.>Cool back legs that allow it to do unique looking kick attacks.>Looks intimidating just by design.>Comes with First Impression which is a great move for it.>You know it's a grasshopper by design and sells it.>Is a bug Pokemon that I can use in a casual playthrough without it feeling like underpowered garbage.>>735114270>the fact it looks like a hunk of cheap plastic honestlyWhat? I didn't even think it looks like a robot whatsoever even though it's obviously a Kamen Rider. It just looks like a grasshopper that stood up and has reinforced back legs.
>>735114338I don't know how the entire body being totally unnaturally smooth doesn't look robotic but it's absolutely what they were going for, the whole thing has robotic elements.It's that the shapes make it look literally like a toy. It's very simplified with extremely basic shapes and it makes it look dull to me. The shoulders and hips just look completely tacked on, so does the back. It just looks bad to me. The idea's cool, the art leaves much to be desired.
>>735114063That fanart looks cool, I wish the 3D model looked like that. To me, Lokix doesn't look like the end result of several rounds of concept art, it probably doesn't even have concept art. It looks like it was designed within the actual 3D modelling software - as in someone was just fiddling around and settled on a crude 3D model. It looks so angular and plastic, so lacking in detail.
>>735044210OHKO moves have always been dogshit, anon. No, winning the 3/10 accuracy check once in a while does not make them good.
>>735114529>>735114947Well then I respect your opinions and can understand why you might dislike it. To me I really enjoy the design and he was someone I beelined to as quickly as I could.
>>735115002>OHKO moves have always been dogshit, anon.jej in DPPt in the battle tower there's some faggot who has a lapras that knows sheer cold, horn drill, and fissure. it killed my run with 3 consecutive hits
>>735115049Personally I'm one of those fags that likes designs to have a little more detailed elements. Obviously they aren't perfect analogues either and I can pick little stuff I dislike about tons of designs in general but designs like Leavanny, Pheremosa, Scyther, Nincada, Beedrill and a few others all have stuff going on I think could make Lokix's design cooler. Just more detail. Like >>735114947said it really feels like it wasn't ever iterated on. Not out to shit on you or it or anything, like I said I think it's a pretty cool concept. We all have our faves. Volcarona is one of mine personally, overall even but especially as bugs go.
>>735114529I don't think it looks 'bad', but I do think it could look way better. Just too toy-like really. I remember trying to redesign it towards my own personal tastes 4 years ago but eh.
>>735115267That's just really bad luck.
>>735115267That's because battle facility AI has always been a cheating piece of shit that will hit repeated 50/50s while dodging any 95 accuracy move you use and getting the lowest damage roll any time they let you actually connect.
>>735114063I think the proportions are what hold it back, a lot of fan art tends to fix this problem though.
>>735103135they really should've just gave likealmost all of gen 2 mons either a cross gen evo in gen 4 and/or wide stat buffs in gen 6 (people forget they did this for a few mons very randomly) or megas
>>735115049Leftmost one gives me Hakkaider vibes more than Rider, DESU.
>>735115353That looks pretty cool. I don't know how I feel about what you did with the back but I like the saw heel bits and the head a lot more. Think you deemphasized the white band a little too much though too.
>>735115414It's Roborider.
>>735095876i really love vespiquen x beedril art
>>735115395Ariados turning into a bigger, scarier spider would be everything my 10 year old self wanted. I don't think I've ever seen a good fan interpretation though.
>>735115540I mean you got galvantula right? he's kinda better
>>735103873oh wow i had no clue about this beyond shiny's changing over gens somewhathttps://bluemoonfalls.com/pages/general/stadium-huesreally cool stuff, had no clue this kind of thing existed in some shape or form in a real game; I always thought slight variations or just a second possible shiny would freshen up things a bitthis reminds me of chao from sonic, would be great to have just as another way to make individual pokemon more unique>>735115540Yeah i can't say i have either. It'd would've been cool for it to get the gen 4 cross gen evo treatment but looking back the designs were very feast famine with really great ones like porygon z, electivire, yanmega, gliscor, but also fucking stinkers like magmortar and lickilicky and arguably rhyperiorI wish more of the old gen evos tried to keep some of their old gen design philosophies
>>735115743Galvantula's cool but I like Ariados more
>>735043537scizor >>>
>>735115454Thanks. The back is a bit odd, yeah. I think my thought process was to give it wings the vibes of a Kamen Rider scarf so the back area wouldn't be so empty but I don't know. And yeah probably should have kept the white 'belt' the same size as the original design.Maybe I'll redraw it someday.
>>735115781Magmortar worked for me. Lickilicky was trash. Rhyperior I can't ever make up my mind on but it isn't amazing. That whole line is just slightly downgrading with each evo for me though, Rhyhorn's too cool.> I always thought slight variations or just a second possible shiny would freshen up things a bitPolished Crystal incorporates this into it. I think a couple other romhacks might too, not sure, but Polished Crystal is great and I recommend it bigly
>>735096882Fuck (You)>t. Seaking
skipping this thread to say that pinsir is>cooler>more fun>more terrifying>guillotine's concept is fucking metal
>>735115919Yeah, I'm always kinda back and forth on whether or not i like rhyperiorI think it looks kinda cool in a vacuum but as a rhydon evo, ehand yeah ryhorn is like the coolest, rhydon arguably smoothed his design out too much
>>735096882>water type worth a shit?You know what? After two decades of water pokemon, I have to finally concede.Team Magma was right. I was a fool. Things would be better if they won.
>>735115969unless you pick the water starter, gyarados is the only water pokemon worth using
>>735116025Yeah, I haven't ever been able to articulate exactly what it is about Rhydon but I think you hit it. Rhydon loses too much of Rhyhorn's scales for me. That and it was also just competing with Nidoking in general appearance and Nidoking wins everytime.
>>735115781Gliscor is my favorite bug.
>>735116079Starmie is good.
>>735116079Hold the fuckin phone. Gyarados is good but it is not "the only one worth using". What are you talking about?
>>735116079Only one pokemon gets the CRABHAMMER and it is thus the only water type in Gen 1 that matters
>>735116128I haven't thought about it but yeah nidoking kinda subconciously squeeze out rhydon in my mind lolCan't believe we never got a mega nidoking or queen, or that nidoqueen's damn shiny was never fucking fixed
>>735116279kingler doesn't learn chadhammer in any of the games where its relevant
Consider snom
>>735116279>special stat: 50bro...
>>735115483We need more bees, wasps and hornets in general.
>>735043537Pinsir is an eternal jobber. Heracross is best bug you'll ever use in-game, that nigga annihilates every region he's in. He also just looks way cooler.
>>735116279weren't water type moves special
>>735116357it learns crabhammer in every game though>>735116369>>735116423don't matter, crabhammerin' other water types wish they could crabhammer so badbut they can'tbetter become a crab bitch
>>735116079Slowbro, Vaporeon and Starmie are GOATs.Kingler, Kabutops, Omastar and Seadra are pretty cool too.
I used Kingler in my HGSS playthrough and it couldn't take a hit from Red's Charizard. worthless piece of shit
>>735116564Lapras is plenty good too
>>735116423It made up for that by auto critting
>>735116564Kingdra is carried by its dragon type
>>735116578Skill issue, it's a glass cannon and you have to use it as such
>>735116454>learns crabhammer despite being rock
>>735116695This little cutie is honestly great, one of my favorites of S/V, but I feel like he should evolve.
>>735116380agreed
>>735116695godly Shiny coming through
>>735116693a glass cannon isn't good for much if it can't outspeed anythingi'm not running shit like choice scarf in a casual playthrough
>>735116364I would love to but Frostmoth is awful
>>735116823I hate to be a KANTOOOOOOnigger but Charizard has the best shiny colours.
>>735044872>Zombiemon parasite controlled bug in C
>>735116838use trick room or just set up a barrier or shove it full of HP EV items or whateverif you know enough to know options you know you can just do lots of simple ones and have fun with it in a casual playthrough cus they're easy, or you can play a harder hack and have fun setting up for it or whateverdo whatever you want but it's hardly a lot of work to make it shine in any game with PSS
>>735116364luv Venomothluv Volcaronaluv Frosmothsimple as
love this thing
It grew on me
>>735117312parasect is gay
>>735117198
>>735043782One of the best posts on /v/ in recent years desu
>>735116819I'm surprised there's only two of them (Ribombee isn't a bee before some idiot replies). There needs to be another one. A little trivia, Vespiquen is labeled under the 'cute' section of Pokemon when you check its footprint, which implies that it's still young despite being the queen of Combees or lighthearted.
>>735043782I wish megas didnt exist and they were just evolve forms instead
>>735117312we know, parasI always liked it as a kid but not enough to use it over my faves, but I honestly almost always use it for a bit whenever I can get one in games just because it's useful and I like it
>>735116949>but Charizard has the best shiny colours.Wrong.
>>735117480It learns CUT and DIG. Why wouldn't you want that?
>>735044872How the fuck are you going to put Buzzwole in B tier
>>735117456We have another hymenopteran in Durant. Very bizarre that it's a single stage mon, an ant queen evolution is so obvious but never got one.
>>735076105The bondage fairies?
>>735117569For me it's sporing with sporing. It did of course learn CUT, but there was only one DIGGER for me.
>>735117569>why wouldn't you want DIG?
>>735117474For me they would've been fine if they were the only gimmick gamefreak shoehorned in and were brought back in every gen instead of introducing retardation like dynamax and silly hats. As things are now though it would've been infinitely better if they were regular evos./cries looking at my level 100 Pinsir who will pretty much be eternally useless without pinsirite
>>735117390Best lore
>>735117774the best part is how it'll never get an evo because of a mega it won't have it most games
>>735117474some of them are good, some of them are not. IMO houndoom needs an evolution. absol too, metagross not so much.
>>735117619How would you go about it, its stats are pretty decent all around where it counts, or should it keep the same BST but distribute some points all in one place?
>>735117774Megas should be a permanent addition and then they throw on the regional gimmick on top of it. Though, in my opinion at this point Megas and Terastallization should become the main gimmicks Pokemon sticks with as they're both great ideas and ignore doing anything else. Just refine both features. Maybe make Mega Stones an optional equip so that the Megas can have a held item, and then anyone who is too strong gets nerfed to compensate. Keep the 1 Mega per battle deal but let the player have more choice over what they can do.
>>735117890Many of them could just be forms instead at this point. Only a handful were justified in really being locked behind "choose one for your team/make it hold an item to turn into it." Stuff like Mega Beedril should just be an alternate form you can turn it into at this point.
>>735117928Completely change its gameplay design, make it a slow tank that can now better use the defensive capabilities of bug/steel while not invalidating Durant's sort of minmaxed speedy attacker role.
>>735118078thanks doc
>>735117713I love how we just artificially keep him at a low level
>>735118313I also painstakingly kept him at 1HP thanks to Gen 1 boxes not healing your pokemon
>>735043537While Heracross is a way better in game, I can't help but loving Pisir, the side mouth and the double horns are just so loveable for me.
>>735043537But why doesnt it get megahorn
>>735118594cuz it gets guillotine instead
For me it's Yanmega, I like that it's a prehistoric dragonfly and the way it's face and eyes change from Yanma. Also the green suits it.
>>735118632That's not even a bug type move
>>735119064It never was, Kingler has always had it too.
>>735119064I don't really think that matters when it's a OHKO move.
>>735119265horn drill and guillotine can't hit ghosts, fissue can't hit flying types. sheer cold can hit anything
>>735119167>>735119265My point was that pinsir doesn't get a good stab move until gen 4. even thought megahorn was added in gen 2
>>735119616Bro, your hidden power bug? (:
>>735119934>hidden powerthings are different anon
