Is there any way this game turns out well?
>>735049235put it back in the dev oven for a few more years
>>735049235It's Bamco trash. It's 100% going to be janky, low effort shit that's not going to be enjoyable unless you're the equivalent of a Digimon fan to SAO who'll eat up whatever this boils down to.
>>735051031Well I've played 2 of the SAO games and found them passable at least.
Honestly the thing is that SAO's mechanics are so barebones and generic there's not much to actually draw players towards.Like, I can get GGO having some appeal. MMO with guns is a concept that has a resonance of its own. But Aincrad is, what? Generic crafting mechanics? "Your sword glows and deals extra damage"? What is there to actually make a game I'd want to play?
>>735049235ask yourself this question, whenever you find yourself confronted with this concern:"Why would anything good happen, ever?"
I feel like if you're going to make this game>MC should be an OC, not a character creator (or at least his personality shouldn't be literally me)>Kirito dies onscreen partway through the game, viscerally telling the player that "This is NOT the SAO you know">tone down the particle effects, jesus christ
>>735051265Well.. I'm not there yet.
>>735050880They said they didn't want it to take another 10 years to make
I tried playing the vita game, and the menu was way too complicated for what it is
>>735049235>Set during the anime>Only the first two floors>Will probably still have massive Kirito wanking, since Asuna is shown in screenshotsItll be shit
Since we're SAO Game Postan
>>735051337Would you get to move in on Kirito's harem afterwards?
>>735055759Only his game canon Harem
>fill party with OCs so they can easily be killed off
>>735056282I saw in some footage that Argo is one of your girls so at least we have some security there.
Is Re: Hollow Fragment worth playing?
>>735057262Yes. If you dont play ANY other SAO game, Hollow Fragment and Hollow Realization were the best ones
It somehow leads to a sequel to Fatal Bullet?
>>735057262I agree with the other anon but I did vastly prefer Hollow Realization above anything else.I have some hope for Echoes as its a single player experience and they haven't tried to shoe horn in any multiplayer trash. The skeleton of SAO was always cool to me.
>>735049235Every SAO game is a buggy mess, so no.
>>735051206All the appeal is the visuals, since everything that makes it interesting in the series has to do with it either being a death game or a full dive game where you experience everything as if you were there.A VR SAO game would be a step in the right direction, but we're never getting anything like that since VR flopped.
>>735058118Are they a buggy mess? Or are they accurately portraying the games theyre based on from the series?Also, only game I ever ran into bug wise was Fatal Bullet. Granted I refused to play Lost Song or SAOvAW, or ANY of the other game that came after Fatal Bullet
>>735049235Maybe if the cut all sao material No characters, reference, and focus on the cool dungeon
>>735049235Depends. Do you get to plow the women ?
>>735058193I've played two different SAO games and in each hit glitches halfway through where a crash caused me hours of progress.
>>735058368Weird. Never had anything like that in Hollow Fragment/Realization, but those games also had autosave mechanics
I will only play it if there's a sufficient titty monster.
>>735059683Only if she's also dark skinned.
>>735049235It's running fine in the previews. No glaring pop-in and whatnot. The animations just need refining, and I hope they can take the feedback they could get seriously. Do wish it'd release in August or September instead. I prefer a different setting but I hope they can make this work and then expand on to newer forms of storytelling, at least, I hope the OC's party get good development and side-content. Hope it breaks a million like FB did, as well.
>>735049235>Body type 1/type 2Nah
Do kids even care about SAO? It's older than .hack was back when the anime first aired.
>>735062121Grim.
Rat sex
>>735063459
>>735049235It's a bamco RPG, it's going to be mediocre like all of them
>>735049235>Dude can we have a SAO game that actually feels like the harsh SAO world? The thing that made the series popular in the first place>Sure but we'll make it 15 years later where everyone who watched the series is in their late-20s/30s, for now enjoy the Kirito wankDefinitely getting it, but I doubt it'll sell well
>>735049235It won't be good by normalfag standards (then again nothing is), but if you like videogames then it'll definitely be a very unique experience that tries it's own thing for better and worse unlike the rest of the industry.
>could make a pseudo-mmo game like the hollow titles to really embrace the idea of aincrad's player-driven nature>no it's just another soulslike where you and one party member go fighting shit, getting gear, leveling up and all the standard stuff like it's a code vein knockoff>and it's made by a nobody near-indie studio with next to no budget who did the synduality fuckup and the ao oni remakeit was doomed from the start.
>>735064435How do you even manage to breathe, does someone remind you every few seconds?
>>735049235The only good thing of this game so far is that you're not playing as kiritoad, and that's thing is giving fans hope
>>735064678engh.I'm just happy because Progressive is more engaging than normal SAO and the 2nd floor town is exactly how I pictured it when I read Progressive.
>>735049235Does it have Japan dubbing? I don't want to hear cringe English VA in a chuunibyou game like this and is it going to be anything at all similar to an action MMORPG combat system rather than a souls-clone?
Lads, is the next episode of Sao abridged going to be the last one? As much as I like it, it's been 12 years. I want it to end already
>>735056282This is a good thing.Last thing we need is more established character wankery.
>Kirito is an antagonistic force because everyone fucking hated him until the 10th floor>there is an entire movie they are including about fighting Kirito because he allegedly PK'd a bunch of peopleWhatever they are doing is already more interesting than just retelling the same shit again.
>>735049235it has no multiplayer. being able to co-op with bros made the previous sao games fun.also they changed the art direction of the game to make it grungy soulslop. which goes entirely against the in-lore design of SAO where the developer Kayaba wanted the players to actually enjoy his world rather than have it be just a death game. Echoes version of Aincrad seems like Kayaba just wanted to torture the playerbase with a punishing deathgame with grim environments which really goes against the narrative of the original story.
>>735065183That just makes sense and is one of the least illogical things in SAO. The levelling system is trash, the skill system is bunk; Only the grinding monsters and loot drops makes any legitimate sense in the video game format:>Stats go up with level up points you can allocate.Default; only good design choice within the lore. They could've even just memed on games like Lineage II, Mabinogi and Maplestory and come out with something more sensible when it comes to basic fundamentals of MMORPG design.
>>735049235Will I get to join Laughing Coffin?
>>735065259Everquest was the newest mmo on the market that Japan was really aware of when SAO was written.
>best girl is in the movie they are making instead of the gameShe better show up in the game
>>735065374Ahh, Everquest huh. Forgot that SAO web novel outdated Maplestory and Lineage 2 by one year. It makes perfect sense why the Author didn't at least think at least for a little bit why the game mechanics wouldn't work out well. Lineage 1 was basically a diablo-like as an MMO.
>>735065259The skill system in SAO was actually really forward thinking for its time (2001) about virtual reality combat mechanics in the future. SAO combat mechanics as they are described in the novels are actually very similar to the combat mechanics of the real VR game Broken Edge which is one of the best melee combat experiences currently implemented in a VR game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQk2YD_TIss
>>735065641Here's just the abyss gazing back situation anon; not "forward thinking" in terms of creating something good and functional from the get go. There's bunch of issues gameplay-wise that would've been "Nope; that's not playable." Thousands of reps to stat boost a skill? AIN'T NOBODY GOT TIME FO' THAT! (it was probably Elder Scrolls inspired where it takes hours to grind out a stat to 100; but that's a sandbox do whatever you want RPG not an MMO.)
>>735065718Comparing a live in VRMMO that's intended to be immersive alternate life experience to a JRPG or even a regular MMO is not a fair comparison. The people playing SAO are far more likely to be the type of person who appreciates that sort of approach moreso than just having a basic leveling system, that's literally the entire reason the Kayaba retard built the game in fact.
>>735065374FFXI came out in 2002 so there's a decent chance it also influenced sao.
>>735065917If it takes thousands of reps to become useful as a skill; That's just shoe-horning too much tedious work into it to be fulfilled. I'd rather join the military at that point or something. Especially in Japan it would be cozy.
>>735065919The earliest SAO is from 2000 (adult manga from Men's Dolphin 2000-10-01 Vol.14 called "Ultd. Online" starring the character Kirito) and the SAO web novel is from 2001.
>>735066045Hmh? What connection do they have other than sharing a name and the web novel author probably just jacking off to that and going; lets write a web novel fanfic.
>>735049235No, they already confirmed it's two floors only, with each floor being 10km each for some unholy reason. Can't wait to run through soulless fields for an hour each way because the developers put quest objectives so far apart to increase play time.
>>735057262No>>735057864But this if you consider the lowest possible bar to climb to be good
the only things I care about from this shitty anime are LLENN and quinella (only when she's naked). I don't think this game will have either so it's probably going to suck.
>>735049235IT SHOULD'VE BEEN GUN GALE ONLINE!
>>735065970>If it takes thousands of repsIt doesn't. Everybody gets general skills from leveling, but things like sword skills can be learned in various ways. How long it takes depends on the player themselves and their motivation, just like learning skills in real life. You can be taught them or see someone else doing it and imitate. Technically you don't even need them at all and skilled swordsmen can pull of similar things with their body alone, just like shooting in GGO. Infact Sword Skills are the same concept as Bullet Lines in that it allows the player to pull off things they normally wouldn't be capable of. The entire point of the games in-universe is to replicate a real world experience to the degree that it's reasonable, not to just be an mmo.
>>735066305Yeah sure; but locking it behind useless grind rather than it being a teachable technique would've been preferred style or choice or at least something that requires some technique grind to unlock. At least for the baseline skill; That would've been reasonable and immersive.
>>735049235the nortubel of sword art online
I never cared for SAO. I thought the trailer looked cool. Might get on discount
>>735066501You level the skills by using it though, you're kinda just unintentionally thinking about it in terms of regular vidya design and that's why you perceive it as a grind. It's more akin to how real life works, where you learn the actual motion easily and then hone it over time. Think of it like a roleplay server more than a traditional mmo, like imagine if the crafting players just immediately got the best stuff and the roleplay people just had the same meta builds. The appeal would wear off almost immediately because most people are not playing the game for the regular video game experience.
>>735066172ill post the sfw pages of the original manga from 2000.this vr device at the start is very similar to how the web novel version of the nervegear called the nerdles is described.
>>735066792The next page introduces the characters Kirito and Mika
I just want a log horizon game
>>735066831they soon realize that they can't log out of the game and then some bad players show up
Will she be better than Asuna and Koharu?
>>735066851Out of all the VRMMO anime Log Horizon seems like it would be the shittest game if it was actually real
>>735066889the bad players knock out kirito and decide that they'll rape mika
>>735066974after an extended rape scene an enraged kirito awakens a hidden ability similar to incarnation from the later plot of SAO and destroys the bad guys
>>735049235It's sao and a bandai gameDo you even need to ask?
>>735067074and then after a final intimate scene between kirito and mika they tell eachother their real names. mika is similar to asuna where she used her real name in the game. this early version of kirito is named "kido akito" here instead of kirigaya kazuto.
>>735066792>>735066831Yeah looks like a fanfiction-post nut clarity rather than the author doing anything regarding towards the manga.
>>735066967Log Horizon is basically entirely about the consequences of a videogame becoming real. It wasn't even a VR MMO they got teleported into a normal desktop mmo and the mmo becomes more and more real over time so raid bosses realize that they dont have to all hang out in their own boss room and fight one at a time they can literally just move around to the same room and gangbang the raid. That's why just managing healthbars is a nightmare since they didn't design a UI for being in first person and the "cheat skills" are just circumventing the videogame aspect by doing shit like cooking for real instead of using crafting menus.A log horizon game would be turning it back into the original videogame which is just a mix of ultima online and everquest but the world is designed to be earth.
>>735067178and thats all the sfw parts of the original SAO manga from 2000. in the postscript of the tankouban version the artist hayashi mario (reki kawahara) says that he wants to add deeper elements to the story once he develops more compositional skill
>>735067397and then he made the SAO web novel under the name kunori fumio less than a year later. he also made a web novel called meta metabolic that was a meta story about his dual identities as an erotic manga artist and a web novel author
What men actually want
>>735067473and the first installment of the web novel was the entire aincrad arc from start to finish in one shot. with time skips of course. he's still working on filling in the gaps to this day.
>>735067397Neat
so like is there actually some deeper meaning to SAO that connects the game world to the real world or did they just not want to bother
>>735049235>$70Nope.
>>735067956the later plot becomes heavily focused on real world AI development, human consciousness, and artificial consciousness.
>>735067745It's hilarious that people say "just make 100 floors" for the game when it has been 15 years since progressive started and it's only on the 7th floor. They do not realize that the original novel literally skipped from floor 1 to 75 and then the story ended and the majority of the tower is completely unexplained after 24 years.
>>735067956It's literally a VR MMO with some of the most awkwardly nonsensical stuff ever in terms of trying to sell anything to a mainstream audience that was rigged into a death game from the start by a killer GM gone "I WANT TO MAKE MY OWN TRUE VIRTUAL WORLD AND SEE PEOPLE CONQUER IT LIKE ANOTHER REALITY!"It's less about actually being realistic or connecting to daily lives and more what makes people who they are when they can do whatever they want beyond normal boundaries and either have to restrain themselves to the consequences or flagrantly ignore them for their interests. But as >>735068086 puts it, later seasons/arcs do grow and emphasize more than just MMO shit, but it gets more than a bit silly once it really kicks up.
>>735068114just 3 more floors and they might have just enough material to be able to make a lore accurate version of the SAO beta test
SAO would have massively improved if Kirito just fucked literally anyone other than Asuna. Asuna is the source of everything bad about SAO
>>735068689in the web novel kirito also fucks alicia rue and sakuya
>>735068114People are unironically just getting mad because they didn't get the bigger number that could potentially exist, there's no logic to it. I doubt any of these people ever reached the end of Fractured Daydream to fight the floor 100 boss they would have gotten, let alone the 100 floor dungeon to fight the lvl 1000 boss in Hollow Realization. They're just bitching about a game they haven't played not having something they don't even care about, complete idiocy.
No>only 2 floorsdogshit
>>735067397interesting that SAO always had ecchi elements to it, and it wasn't just shoehorned in even though it felt that way
>>735066701KILL YOURSELF
>>735049235>not all floors>not the same open world on all floors>bamco>kirito/asuna WILL be there to remind you your character isnt the main characterthey will NEVER nail the actual SAO feeling in a game
>introduce best girl at the very beginning>write her out of the story completely after the first arc>survives entirely because the game devs like her so much they put her into every game even for stories she had no part of>finally gets reintroduced into the main story after a decade
>>735068114Because when most people think of what an ideal Sword Art Online game would be, they want to actually play and beat Sword Art Online.Nobody cares about Kirito's story, which is the main focus of the entire series. They care about the world within the story and challenging the death game that everyone is struggling through.
>>735049235I think there's a chance the game won't have the hours of visual novel elements that the previous ones have since they are trying to do some mass appeal shit here. The gameplay will suck and non-SAO fans won't like it, but the gameplay will be good enough for SAO fans since they've slogged through worse, but the SAO stuff that the SAO fans actually buy the games for will be so sparse and diluted that they won't be able to enjoy the game either.And since deving a better action game is harder than slopping out 30 hours of Visual Novel scenes they will do a post release about-turn and finally the game will be good for the SAO fans.
>>735066927Asuna? YesKoharu? Hell fucking no.They managed to make the best driving force for any MC in that fucking mmo and they're probably not catching a second lightning in a bottle.
Glasses girl will be the best girl
>>735070930God I hope she doesn't die. Or at least, dies in the coolest way.
>>735070239>one of the shorter girls who doesn't even try to be a harem member but is actually the oldest of the entire group to boot>still trolls the harem for the shits and giggles of it
>>735049235tales died for this
>>735071304Tales has been shit for the last two decades.
Cant wait for Heathcliff to be our best bro and Kirito is bad.
>>735066851They fucked up big time with the anime. How they could take their sweet time for one arc then ram through another in S2 was crazy.
>>735071304I wish. I wish Bamco's internal teams could take a crack at the series and potentially put out something pretty darned good.You'd better be hoping you don't get another Arise though.
>>735051206SAO games are JRPGs for people who don’t like JRPGs. Why play Trails or Atelier games and sink yourself in their massively autistic storytelling when you can just play a SAO game and get the anime equivalent of “Cena wins lol”
>>735065183Aliciazation or however the fuck you say it wasn’t even that long ago, how the fuck do these games look this bad. Even fucking Blue Reflection Tie looked better than this and Blue Reflection has like 1% the value of the SAO franchise. What the fuck are these devs smoking?
>Anime for a different work by the author of SAO announcedVidya announcement when?
SAO for 'modern audiences'
>>735049235Nothing good has ever come out of SAO. Accel World was always the superior story.
>>735049235noif they had the tiniest bit of vision, after making the game look nothing like the anime they should've used the chance to hide the fact its an SAO gameThe fact that they still ride off the fame of the first half of the first season is enough to tell you this is a cash grab because the franchise isn't worth shit.
>>735066967you realize you're posting in an SAO thread, right?
>>735049235Well you can play an SAO Aincrad arc game where you actually are your own OC character, not just "You are Kirito but you can look different." So its got that going for it.If it can do what AOT2 did that would be great.
>>735068114Bro, every 10 floors is a new biome. There are 9 floors of generic dungeon between those. Like nigga just use a layout randomiser for 8 of those with the 9th being the boss room. Shit should only take as long as making the randomiser logic for the initial seed and making wall assets.
>>735065183I really hope they actually go through with him being a villain and not just go with>it was all a misunderstanding.
>>735049235Yes.Helmets. If they did not include helmets, the game will fail.Or at the very least ended up as every generic anime game. Forgotten and doesn't become anything special.
>>735066927Actually a man just playing as a girl in-game. So definitely not in contention for best girl.
>>735081723Shouldn't all avatars be matched to their actual gender after the opening ceremony? I remember that being a funny scene in the anime where most female chars turned male
>>735081723Iori was playing as a dude before the mirrors. Same case as Mito from the Progressive movies.
>>735079904>Like nigga just use a layout randomiser for 8 of those with the 9th being the boss roomEvery floor is meant to have a boss though. And why do you want 90% of it to be RNG generated garbage instead of few with actual effort put in?
>can't starburst stream because it belongs to someone else canonicallysad
