Fatal Frame 2 ThreadAre you enjoying it?>God i wish i was Mayu in this scene
Honestly I started out feeling lukewarm on it but I'm on chapter 5 now and it's fantastic. The atmosphere of the original games is still here and everything looks and feels really quality, from the character models and animations to the ghost designs to the sounds and voice acting. The level design is also very nice, very good implementation of side stories to encourage you to go back to previously accessed areas and open up new parts of them. I will likely do multiple playthroughs of this game.I haven't played a FF game in a long time and I've only played the first two, but I only now realise how much I like the way the games are sort of like a murder mystery (mass murder in this case) where you slowly put together clues to figure out what happened and how the ritual works. Really cool progressive story telling and FF2's story is easily one of the best in the genre. I completely understand why many people dislike it though since it's the exact opposite of Resident Evil with its action gameplay and hype moments.
>>735054104How does this compare to Resident Evil 9? I'm in the horror mood after that banger.
>>735055272FF is like classic Resident Evil with less focus on combat and more on level design, navigation, puzzle solving, gathering clues and keys etc.So if you liked Grace's segments in RE9 you might like this game. But if you really prefer Leon's segments and feel that your entertainment depends on blowing a zombie's head off, then don't get this game.
>>735055272Much more slower and methodical, atmosphere is fantastic throughout, and the story is dark and depressing and overall a much spookier game.Although the remake has a more focus on combat and the survival horror gameplay compared to OG.
>>735055531>with less focus on combatPass.
>>735055747>Although the remake has a more focus on combat and the survival horror gameplay compared to OG.Well fuck, now I'm getting mixed messages.
>>735055760>>735055809The original on PS2, the combat is much more simpler and kind of an afterthought. It was basically a flaw of the OG because of how easy it was.Remake changed that with much more combat mechanics (like a simple dodge move), and the ghosts that you fight are more aggressive and faster.
How often do ghosts stop you from grabbing items on higher difficulties? I'm playing normal mode and I ragequit and reloaded a save at the beginning of chapter two because a ghost popped up from the first herb outside, and that nigger aggro'd twice because it was before the patch. After reloading to conserve film, I just skipped the item and continued playing for like five hours. When I got back to the herb, the ghost popped up with the tutorial, and I had another ghost pop up later in Osaka House again, but that's it. It seems like a worthless gimmick if it rarely happens, so I have to assume it's more frequent on Nightmare.
>>735054104Shitty DEmake of the most overrated Fatal Frame.>>735055272It easily beats the shit out of it, being a TEMU remake of a true PS2 era survival horror.But again, you should play the OG trilogy in release order.FF1 > 3 > 2.>>735056568>How often do ghosts stop you from grabbing items on higher difficulties?I do not know, but this shit's one of THE most annoying modern tropes they added to the nu-FFs.
>>735056568In my 10 hours playthrough so faron the battle mode, it doesn't seem that bad, its doesn't happen for every item and it seems to be randomzied(died once, go back to pic the item and ghost didn't grab me this time)It only happened like 4 times so far, you have to worry about opening doors more than picking up items this time because they can randomly jumpscare and attack you with doors now.>>735056876its not shitty, pretty good overall and the remake did improve on the meh tier combat of OG.
>>735054104Games fine, decent enough to play in isolation. Nothing too offensive to completely write it off. But doesn't really add enough to justify is own existence. I would still recommend the PS2 version, along with it's whole trilogy.
>>735055272This shit sucks balls compared to RE9. It's not scary at all. You can try the demo on steam but note it's censored too so you're better off just emulating the original. These threads are filled with nothing but censorshills as well.
>>735054104https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYT9wVwQ8A
>>735057153>pretty good overall and the remake did improve on the meh tier combat of OG.Nah, that art directing is just bad, and of course it's yet another OTS slop that ruins the in-game cinematography and negative space.And of course it's censored to boot, because of the DEI company.
>>735057330>But doesn't really add enough to justify is own existence.It actually expands the game quiet a bit, village is bigger and there's more to explore, there's new side stories missions to learn more about the story, new endings, some new combat mechanics like charms etc.
>>735058585I already been to that part of the game and the ghost ended up not looking that bad, idk what happened in that comparison, maybe lighting got borked or something or maybe its the switch 2 version.
>>735054104I haven't played the game since high school. Who is Mayu? Is she the one with the injured leg?
>>735058912Yeah, the one that has her face buried in her little sister, Mio's chest.
>>735056876>>735058585>Remake added handholdingnah fuck you, any other flaw is now mute because of this addition.
I'm on chapter 7 and this game's difficulty is all over the place. It starts pretty hard, evens out for a bit until you get the radiant filter, then everything that isn't the Kusabi is a faceroll until you get to that last fight in chapter 6 because what the actual fuck. This shit's a rollercoaster. I am enjoying the expanded exploration though. Following through with side stories, finding filter interactions and hunting for twin dolls is all kino.
>>735054104I put about 12 hours into it and beat it on battle mode. The combat "clicked" for me about half way somewhere around chapter 4 I think. The engine the game is on is ass and should have unironically been on unreal engine or whatever else. Aside from that I don't really have complaints. I'm not a coomer so I don't care about panty censoring.
>>735059035Is this the power of yuri?
>>735061232No. It's the power of SISTER YURI.
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MAYUUU :3MIIOOO :3*holds hands*
Really really annoyed by the jank that is snapping fatal frames when prompted only for the ghosts to just fly through you and take damage even though you did what the game told you to do. This is on PS5. Dunno if it's a genuine fault. Pretty sure this is just slop fucking jank that's probably been in every title in the series. Am I right?
>>735060616and that fight at the end of Chapter 6 can only be a pain in the ass because of >>735064653
>>735060876>should have unironically been on unreal enginewhat? I was under the impression that they made this in UE
Finished it. Got 4 endings already.NG+ items cost is crazy.Enjoyed it. Side quests are a little drag with all backtracking but main dish is really good.
>>735067170How many sidestories were you able to find/complete? I got 8 so far and I'm in the final chapter.
I still need to beat Maiden of Black Water before I buy Crimson Butterfly.
>>735061308Yuri twincest even
>>735054104still waiting for KT to readjust difficulty before I continue my battle playthrough...
>>735068409I just oneshot a wraith in chapter 5 on normalthis patch is bullshit
>>735067916About 10-11 and there 4 new sidestories in NG+. You should find more sidestories in the final chapter. Though I don't remember what trigger them.
>>735064653>Really really annoyed by the jank that is snapping fatal frames when prompted only for the ghosts to just fly through you and take damage even though you did what the game told you to do.So just like every other Fatal Frame game. You have to time the trigger right and move around with right stick so the ghost doesn't accidentally go through you.>>735055809In the original all you had to do was wait for a ghost to attack and quickly press trigger button when the screen flashes red. That was the source of highest damage and also staggered the ghost so everything else was pointless chip damage. In the remake you can still do just that but its no longer the main source of damage. Also now high damage normal camera shots can also stagger a ghost so with enough points in damage you can afford to be more aggressive.The balance is bit off but overall its fun. In early game your camera does shit damage so fights can take a long time. After 30% of the game progress you unlock upgrades that trivialize a lot of the combat. You can even kill the final boss of the game with one shot.
Do I activate the paparazzi mode if i parry after a stagger??
Just finished the game. Got the Crimson Butterfly Ending, which I assume everyone gets initially. The story here is just as good as Silent Hill 2 with a more unique and in-depth combat system but unflinchingly Japanese which is why I assume hardly anyone liked it or gave a shit when it came out. Also has a great credits track
>>735069456>Got the Crimson Butterfly Ending, which I assume everyone gets initiallyYep, You can get only this and bad one initially. For other endings you need NG+ (chapter select actually) items
>>735069886Aren't the endings difficulty based? Like i remember you get the other ending by playing on hard and above.
>>735069968In the original yes but not there. You can get 5 endings on any difficulty.But for the 6th one, you need to beat the whole game on Nightmare without chapterter select and if guide doesn't lie beat the final boss under 1 minute
I just put it down for tonight. I'm gonna try for 100% maybe depending on how I can manage the frustration. I'm still not "skilled" enough with the combat, so I get caught up in jank slop situations and fucked, reload it, and then one shot the shit. Leading me to believe this shit is just inherently jank and frustrating until you "git gud" at it. Another reason this series is seldom played and considered niche.
>>735070219dude its a game where you take pictures of ghosts with a camera either roll with it or refund lol its not that deep
>see fatal frame thread>about to talk about the game>see the comments first>the retard schizo is back trying to kill any threads about itGet a fucking job nigga
>>735069456Yeah, the horror genre doesn't have any decent standards for good stories especially with fuckin Resident Evil being the biggest franchise, but this game is very easily near the top for well done horror stories.
>have to play again for the good endingsshan't, one playthrough is more than enough
What do we think about Sae?
>>735070998but thou must!
>>735071571isnt this the woman in fatal frame 1?
>>735055272RE9 is peak kino, top of it's genre. Fatal Frame is something you play when you've already played the classics and giants of the genre like RE and Silent Hill.
>>735073418They are also completely different approaches to the genre with almost nothing in common aside from the movement/camera perspective. It's like comparing Evil Dead 2 to Ring. They are both great films in the same genre but you would never watch them expecting anything similar.
Does anyone know what it is?
>>735054104I stopped playing at the part where you have to backtrack to every house for the pinwheels. Gameplay went back to being just as boring as in the original with a decked out camera, charm and infinite heals from the save shop. I also already know and don't like the story as well so I lost interest in finishing the game
>>735071571I think Minakami village sucks!
>just realized you can simply pause the game and swap out charms mid-battleSheeeeeit time to use all those points I haven't touched to upgrade that Radiant Filter.
>>735072734>is the girl who looks exactly like your twin sister the woman in fatal frame 1?No.
>>735054104Pantsu status?
>>735072734I haven't played FF in a long time and haven't finished the remake yet, but IIRC Yae is the twin that fled from the village and was indeed later caught up in the FF1 story.
>>735072734THat´s Yae.
>>735073418The second half of Re9 is pure action and stops being survival horror
Bros… it was supposed to flophttps://www.nintendolife.com/news/2026/03/uk-charts-pokemon-pokopias-physical-troubles-continue-as-it-slips-from-the-podium
>>735076846>10th placeWow, like we say in KT it's literally DoA Dead on arrival
>>735076846I haven't even seen it for sale anywhere here. The only places you can buy new games physically anymore in the UK are like supermarkets and they don't have this game.
>>735076846>re3wut?
>>735078062Requiem boosted sales of other entries
>>735078062REmake games seem to have been put back up for sale at very decent prices (£15) to go along with RE9 hype
whats the deal with eikado temple, any reason to go there?
>>735079301yeah you eventually get a reason to go there after chapter 4if you're already there and don't know, check your inventory
>>735075268censored
>>735054104i would enjoy it if i could fuck both of them.
>>735075268>>735081361from what i read from the last threads, it doesn't even have the bikini outfit
>>735077980Why not buy it online? As in buy the physical copy online to be delivered?
>>735079301You need to visit 2 times for extra activity
>>735082320I did, just mentioning that because there was a post about UK physical game sales.
>>735082059woke strikes again
>>735082059There is no video game studio in this decade that would ruin their reputation and put themselves at legal risk by putting bikini outfits for little girls in their game. Expedition 33 gave Maelle a swimsuit that covered almost her whole body and that just barely avoided getting them in trouble.In any case, this game is a remake based on the original PS2 game, which had no revealing outfits.
>based on the original PS2 game, which had no revealing outfits.what?
>>735083132Exactly, those particular costumes only debuted in the Xbox rerelease, not the original PS2.https://wiki.thelostvillage.ney/index.php/Fatal_Frame_II_Costumes
>>735083132Retard. If you haven't played the games and don't even like this game then why are you here?
I hate all those fucking doors in fatal frame games. Every 5m you walk there is this slow door opening animation and it annoys me.
>>735083665it's better than OG RE games door animation
>>735083132Why are fucking tourists constantly trying to kill any discussion about this game?
>>735083378Oh whoops, replace that ney with net.
>>735071571Too much schizo, she wasn't like that.
>>735083665I hate how slow they reach their arm to items. I jump every time when you are grabbed.
>>735083665the doors are kino i love the suspense not knowing if there's something behind itmy reaction time is trash though they always get me lol
>>735054104looks like silent hill f but lesbian
>>735084001There is never anything behind those doors. Unless they added something in remake none of the other games had a door jumpscare.
I've managed to line up ever doll I've encountered so far except the first one
>>735083665rooms have doors and you play in a village, visiting houses.wtf is this complaint
>>735082819Oh my bad
>>735084272opening a door irl does not take 10 seconds
>>735084104>Unless they added something in remakethey did add encounter behind doors. And you start the fight with depleted ressources.play the game
>>735084272There are thousands of those doors in this village, maybe even millions. At least it felt like that.
>>735084312They are Japanese sliding doors, you don't just rip them open...
>>735071571Also reminds me of N2 for some reason.
>>735084415>opening a door, japan
Game has barely any presence on the internet that it feels like super niche.
>>735086406>it feels like super nicheIt is super niche anon
>>735086503I thought Fatal Frame was well-known among horror players
>>735086543It is known I'd say, but at the same time the concept of a photography based survival horror is really fucking weird to a lot of people
>>735086543it is well-known but most self-proclaimed horror players don't actually play games that aren't huge like RE 4,7,8,9 or SH remakes
My first Fatal Frame game. I'm not very far and don't know what to make of it yet. The mood and environments are great and I don't mind the combat but the stealth segments are absolutely ass.
>>735088542yeah the stealth kinda sucks, it's badly implemented but I still like that it breaks the gameplay a bit. So far it hasn't overstayed its welcome for me
>>735086543Well known doesn’t equal = popular the whole series has only sold like 2.5~ million
dude this is the weirdest game i ever played
>>735088542>starting with the modern ones>with the worst game mechanicsat least its not 5
She's got some big knockers
>>735079301Later Side-quest area, if you want early camera upgrade points might want to pay a visit there. After first visit the area is full of random ghost spawns though.
>>735091070>with the worst game mechanicsCombat is fine, if weirdly balanced.
>>735054104It's my second favourite FFHaving a great time
>>735083665>I hate all those fucking doors in fatal frame games. Every 5m you walk there is this slow door opening animation and it annoys me.Those doors are obvious loading screens.
>>735089413>X-files tune starts playing.
>>735092517Found one with even bigger knockers
>>735095064Why she looking at me like that bros?
>>735082059>the cute yukatas that show off their feet are gone tooA far bigger travesty. I never played the xbox version so I don’t feel as butthurt over the outfits from that version. Whoever removed my mini yukata is worse than a war criminal as far as I’m concerned.
>>735055531>less focus on combatthere is way more combat in this one to the point where it's annoying. i'm playing on pre-nerf battle mode, so it might not be as bad now.
>>735092517>>735095064>>735095151Those are ghost bwos…
Is the kusabi scripted most of the time?He seems to roam, but I barely see him in the house unless it's after opening a door
>>735097097>Is the kusabi scripted most of the time?Yes. They only increased the number of scripted encounters from the original, he's not a random encounter.
>>735097321Thank fuck, I was worried he would be an actual stalker like mr x instead of something like the giant fetus from re8
>>735086543"horror players" could mean any normalfag that's touched at least one RE game at some point in their life. Those guys have never known about FF, only genre enthusiasts have and there's way less of those. And known in the first place does not always mean bought and played. Even now with the remake there's still way more people that only know of SH2 than there are those that have actually played either iteration of it.
>>735086543Horror games to most people in this generation basically means "Resident Evil, Silent Hill and endless uncountable tiny indie Amnesia ripoffs". And to be honest even Silent Hill is just something most people know about rather than actually play.
>>735095151this game has me scared stiff.. panty mod when
I thought Requiem was like a 9/10 but honestly I might like this game more.
>>735071571AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! IT'S A CUTE JAPANESE GIRL!!!!
>>735100362the camera combat, atmosphere, japanese ghosts, and cute girls is a winning formula for me. even at their worst, i enjoy these games, and this one being competent and faithful to the original was such a nice surprise. most of all i'm just glad there's still devs working to keep it alive, since there's nothing quite like it out there.
>>735070979>the horror genre doesn't have any decent standards for good storiesRule of Rose is probably my favorite story in any video game in spite of its awful gameplay.
>>735088542>The mood and environments are great and I don't mind the combat but the stealth segments are absolutely assI like how this is your first Fatal Frame and yet you just wrote a damn near perfect review of 3.
>>735088542Yeah it's a good introduction to the stealth/stalker mechanic when you've fought everything up to that point and then are thrust into an immediate grapple encounter. It took me second to realize I had to get up and split. Maybe I'm just a smooth brain.
>>735077980Yeah in the states the only place within 100+ miles of my area was Gamestop and they got just enough copies to cover preorders, which was 4 in total myself included.
So how hard is the post game unlock difficulty and how much is it invalidated by unlocks?
>>735105604Just got there and getting other endings/finishing all of the substories now, but all of the unlocks are insanely expensive. I'm sure there's a way to cheese it and get tons of points easily, but for how much stuff is, I don't expect it to not be a grind.
Does this game have better autosaving/checkpointing than 5 did? I enjoyed 5 but replaying it to try and get the collectables I missed like the ghosts that jump in front of you for 0.1 second and then they're gone for good only to keep running into situations where I'd fuck up and miss them and need to reload a checkpoint that was like 15 minutes ago and need to play massive chunks of game all over again so I ended up giving up and didn't even do the NG+ difficulty.
>>735106895I don't bother with the ghost lists in these games, I feel like I have to read the dev's mind half the time and it makes the game extremely unfun for me to give any fucks about them.
>>735106895What you described was my biggest complaint with the series in the past, hearing a specter appear somewhere aroung you but it disappearing just before you take a picture of it, so you have to reload a save to get it. But I am happy to report that I have over 10 hours on this remake so far and that has only ever happened once, the movement and camera controls feel a lot more smooth/responsive and it's much easier to get a fast picture of a specter in 1-2 seconds.
>>735107141My autism compels me to be a completionist in every game I play. Or at least try to but yeah it was miserable in FF5.>>735107938That's good, I've heard 2 is shorter too which is nice. 5 overstayed it's welcome a lot with all the backtracking
Nooo evil ghost spirit don't grab put your hands around my neck and choke me ahhhh I'm so scared nooo
Dude, fuck the ghost kid at Osaka's houseLittle nigger barely even attacked, he just kept running between my legs
is it better than the wiiu one? I kind of enjoyed it but never finished it
>Defeat evil twins where one of them is actually a possessed doll>The doll flops down like the empty toy it is>Move a few rooms, come back that way a few minutes later>The doll is on the other side of the roomfuck right off
>>735109876Revisiting the Osaka house after going through the Kurosawa house was annoying. I once had six ghosts spawn in the same room seconds after one another. I just started running past them at a certain point, it was like playing a JRPG with an obscenely high encounter rate.
>>735089413>>735093817spooky>>735095064>>735095151hot
is there any reason to fight the villagers that roam outside?
>>735068852I really don't like the combat of the original. It's fucking boring waiting for the red ring. I preferred the first game where you just have to keep it trained on the ghost while the bar fills up
>>735055531I will play this game, grace part is the best part of RE9
>>735112049Hope you enjoy it. Combat takes a little while to click, they made the camera features more granular than previous entries on this one.
>>735111921You don't even wait in OG2, you're free to reposition however you want so long as you're in the right place with your camera up. I agree wholeheartedly in that the first one's charge systems facilitated tension much better, you had to commit to your general orientation.
>>735111725Yeah, I thought the house would be filled with ghosts, only to find only that kid and two revenants, and when I thought there wouldn't be more and was about to leave I got jumpscared by a bitch during a door opening
>>735112346I probably played it wrong to an extent, but some ghosts where a pain in the ass. Like the fucking twins the first time that tend to hide in the walls or the mob villagers that spread out so you can't really focus one because the others will get to you, especially that faggot with the staff
The combat is much better than in the original which was too easy and too simple. FF5 still has the best combat though, shame about everything else.
>>735113760I think this remake is onto something in terms of both the player capacities and AI tactics, but then radiant comes in like a goddamn wrecking ball and ruins the balance. It's too damn good.
>>735113760>>735114289After I got the radiant filter, combat is going back to how it was in the other fatal frames so it's much more enjoyable now.
>>735113760>>735114289I actually gimp myself by only using the standard filter and upgrading only that, feels much more balanced and I also like the reload speed. And also pictures look much nicer without the color filtering.
emulate or pirate this one bros? ive never played ff
>>735117742>emulateWhere, you can't emulate switch 2 or ps5
Is that slug?
Starting my NG+ Gonna do the new side quests and get some endingsThank fuck upgrades and charms carry over I expect to wipe the floor with these annoying ass ghosts
>>735071571incest whore
>>735092517>>735095064>>735095151Holy fuck anon, it could be someone's mother. Show some respect.
>>735118096Actually, you need NG+ Nightmare only for one ending.You can get all other endings with chapter select.
>>735055272if you want more RE9 you must go backwards to RE5
>>735118580/v/ getting teleported in there would be an absolute shitshow
>>735118515Yes, and?
>Radiant Charm>four Focal Points >increased charge speed for Radiant special>increased reload time on Exposure which is already the fastest at reloading>increased Film capacityYep, it's framing time.
Just started playing 4 remaster and holy shit did they improved the camera in later games? I play with mouse and despite supposedly being the fastest the camera is so slow, it's like it's glitching cause it is unable to reproduce how fast the mouse moves
>Censored slopNo buy. I will pirate it though.
>>735120010you've never played fatal frame in your life and you wouldn't have played this game either, bitch
>>735118937Haha, what could go wrong?
>>735054104How is it compared to the PS2 version?
>>735120082Cope. I've played Fatal Frame on just about every console it's been released on. People can have standards. But by all means continue being a tool.
>>735120109In terms of atmosphere, levels, story, overall design, it's very faithful. Probably one of the most faithful remakes when compared to stuff like RE2, SH2. The combat is where it is most different, so that's where your mileage will vary, but in my opinion it's a more fun system now. There's also some new/expanded side content that may have been somewhat present in the original game but here it's given fully structured/tracked quests. I do still love the PS2 version for the visual style of the era and this remake does not replace it, but it is a really good Fatal Frame game.
>>735120087Grab her honkers before she dissapears
>>735120424You’ve had days to pirate and play it but all you’ve done is bitch in every thread
I'm starting to think that it was the same schizo who was shitposting about SH2R, SH f, RE9 and FF2R
>3 milly for one costumeSeriously?
>>735072734It must suck to escape a village cult just to die in another haunted area
How does the new song compare to the classic Chou and the Wii's version Kurenai?
>>735122730which costume
I don't understand one thing about lore.Does The Abyss affect only Minakami village? Can it potentially take over the whole world?
>>735122852NG+ costumes. Every ending unlocks one costume for Mio and one costume for Mayu
>>735122952It only affects the village, the repentance is what happens when the hellish abyss isn't satisfied with a crimson sacrifice. Why the villagers don't just move, I don't think it's ever mentioned. Same with Himuro mansion.
why don't they just wait until it's bright out?
>>735123308Supernatural Darkness™
So what the everloving fuck was Chitose's sidequest? Whoever designed that shit should be fired. Why would they have you runback Tachibana house IMMEDIATELY after you finish it, but with worse blue ghost guidance and shittier darkness fights?
I still don't get why they did what they did to 5 >all the girls are whores>put in some ikemen vs. Ikemen shit >retroactively fuck the stories of earlier games in the series >do some weird as fuck mission structure I'm going to finish the port of 4 before playing this, the girls are way hotter in that anyway
>>735054104why did they not remake Fatal Frame 1... you know... the only GOOD one???
>>735124838Why? Did you want them to make it shit or something?
>>735125057I don't know. I mean wtf, they already remade II as Project Zero on the Wii. This is the second remake of Fatal Frame II.
meh ill just go back to the wii version, plus i can plug it into a CRT and experience the way it was meant to be played
>>735124719>mfw he hated Chitose's sidequest
>>735125641Should I have enjoyed running back the mansion I just spent an hour in literally 10 seconds after finally leaving it?
>>735124719Its a remix of the original Chitose quest, they cut the Chitose quest in half and made the other half an optional quest. In the original you chase her and check for every closet first in Tachibana house and then Kiryu house.
>>735126283I feel like here they contextualized it as poorly as you possibly could. They introduce it right after you finally get to leave Tachibana, and it's like "eh, I just finished this but also I'm already here". It played like a tedious extension of a section I was content with.
So why do people think 1 is the best?
Dunno if anyone has noticed or not, but there is a Team Ninja style NG+ even on story difficulty the encounter rate/enrage rate goes through the fucking roof and shit is really hard even with upgrades.
