>Gamers used to argue over which games were good. Now a whole subculture treats watching games fail like fantasy football.>“DOA” stopped being a description and became a hobby. People aren’t just predicting flops anymore, they’re rooting for them.>Concord broke people’s brains. Now every new multiplayer game gets judged against a two-week corpse before it even has a chance to breathe.>Marathon may or may not succeed long-term, but calling every live-service game “Concord 2” is just NPC behavior.>A website tracking game deaths like a scoreboard is one of the bleakest things modern gaming culture has produced.>A lot of “this game is doomed” posting isn’t analysis. It’s people getting a dopamine hit from public failure.>Some gamers don’t want better games. They want punishments. They want studios publicly humiliated for making the wrong kind of game.>The funniest part of Marathon discourse is that half the people screaming “woke slop” can’t even explain what’s supposedly woke about it.>If your criticism of a game boils down to “the robots aren’t hot enough,” maybe you are not actually defending art.>There’s real fatigue around hero shooters and live-service games, but online discourse turns that fatigue into bloodsport.>People are using player-count charts the way sports fans use box scores, except the goal is to celebrate layoffs.>Steam charts are useful data. Gaming Twitter turned them into a public execution device.
>A lot of Marathon hate isn’t really about Marathon. It’s anti-Bungie resentment, anti-live-service resentment, and culture-war sludge wearing a fake mustache.>Some Destiny fans seem willing to cheer Bungie’s destruction just to prove they were right to be mad. That’s not fandom, that’s arson.>There’s a difference between “this game has problems” and “I need this game to die so my worldview feels validated.”>Gaming discourse has become so poisoned that “not an instant catastrophic flop” now gets treated like a controversial opinion.>The weirdest genre in gaming right now isn’t extraction shooters. It’s flop voyeurism.>People say they want honest discussion about games, but what they really want is a funeral they can quote-tweet.>The industry’s live-service obsession deserves criticism. The online mob turning every launch into a ritual sacrifice deserves criticism too.>We’ve reached the point where some players are more emotionally invested in a game failing than in any game actually being good.
And I am an athlete.
Chudda is mind breaking these gamejournopros freaks
>buy monster hunter instead of marathon>company loses $200,000,000+>game journos seethe
>>735057576it is astounding how these leftist freaks have zero self awareness. The writer is literally the NPC meme.Just kill these retards
>>735057756Fucking lmao
>do literally nothing>triple A vidya industry crashes>journalists seething endlessly I'm just chilling bro
TOTALSLOPDEATHSOON
These retarded fucks are absolutely disconnected from reality and completely incapable of empathy.
>>735057587This is all 100% correct. Tassi has been very critical of Bungie the past few years by the way, but anyone can observe that there's a real culture of hate, a culture of both first world (minority) and third world chuds who enjoy hating on anything remotely woke, anything remotely live service, anything western too.The irony is that a lot of these third world chuds play gacha games, or support woke games like Slay the Spire. It's just very inconsistent.You'd have to be blind to not see that, Paul Tassi is just stating the obvious here.
>>735057576Where do I get to watch the sport?
>>735057576/v/ does hate running
>>735057576It's more fun than playing the game actually.
>>735057576>>735057587This article is 100% correct and on touch with this issue, there's a bunch of weirdos who are nihilist weirdos incapable of feeling joy for anything else. They have feeble minds and are easily swayed by narrative pushed put by grifters who prey on their wallet while not changing the status quo beyond internet brownie points
>And that's a good thingI welcome more articles informing game devs that there is an unpredictable throng of consumers who will eat them alive if the project fails the vibe check. Or maybe not. Go ahead and take a chance.
>If your criticism of a game boils down to “the robots aren’t hot enough,” maybe you are not actually defending art.What argument is he trying to have with whom?
>>735057576It's dead jim, move on.
>>735058260ok idc kill all jews.
>>735058260The part that frustrates me the most is the gaslighting. Tons of people on /v/ said Baldur's Gate 3 was woke, but that abruptly ended when it was clear that it was a good game overall and that it sold well. There really isn't anything woke about Marathon. It seems like a lot of /v/ likes to work backwards retroactively claiming a game is woke if it's clear the game will fail.
>>735058931/v/ also likes to photoshop and make fake articles to get mad about nowadays too, you cant trust any news posted here because it's always embellished for (you)s. It's way worse than Kotaku.
>>735058931>but that abruptly endedlol, only shills and trannies kept making threads for 2 months . everyone moved on from that game in the first week
>>735057576>mustSays who?A fucking games journalist, barely even qualified to *inform* people about videogames, who thinks his job is instead telling people how to behave.
>>735058931No, it's still woke as fuck. It's just not annoying woke. I still won't play it because it's woke, but people who have a lower threshold for woke can enjoy it.
Is discourse on the internet really just a kind of communal schizophrenia?
>>735059168Literally what is woke about Marathon???Is it because there are some left-leaning employees at Bungie? News flash: almost every studio has some of them. Is it because "the robots aren't hot enough"? PLEASE tell me you're not that pathetic.
>>735057576>retarded grifter has an opinion Riveting thread, OP.
>>735057576YOU CANT MAKE FUN OF THE CORPORATE SLOP IT MAKES THE TRANS DEVELOPERS SUICIDAL
>>735059335The robots definitely aren't hot enough. I wouldn't call it woke, but it's unrealistic. If humans were designing sexy robots, they would be as sexy as possible. You either design it to be gender neutral, or you design it to be a fertility goddess. There is no middleground.
>>735059335I'm talking about BG3. It's woke as fuck. Nobody denies it or tries to claim it's not woke. It's just woke that is not done annoyingly.
>>735059335The entire games anesthetics is trans-coded, literally.
>>735057587>>735057576>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT GAMES!>YOU CAN'T JUDGE GAMEDEVS FOR THEIR PAST ACTIONS EITHER!>ACTUALLY, ALL JUDGEMENT IS HEREBY BANNED AND IS ECONOMIC TERRORISM!>JUST BUY NEW PRODUCT AND BE EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT!
>>735059646>Nobody denies it or tries to claim it's not woke.There absolutely are. There were plenty of people on /v/ claiming it was woke, and then when they were called out on it post-release they backtracked HARD and claimed it wasn't woke because of some weak cope, like you could "kill the characters" in question and that somehow makes it not woke.
>>735059646There is still an argument to be made that it's not the kind of woke people complain about when they use the term. Wokeness has an integral issue of being preachy. The media is just a vessel for the leftist intersectional identity politics and everything else is just an afterthought. BG3 gives you "inclusive" options, but it doesn't browbeat you into accepting them as the only correct choices.
>>735057576>We’ve reached the point where some players are more emotionally invested in a game failing than in any game actually being good.You don't say.
>>735057576They could engood it within a month by making the characters hot and making the gameplay fast as fuck.
>>735059837I know you completely and utterly lack self-awareness, but you retards sitting around wishing for Marathon (which is admittedly a bad and ugly game) to die are just as retarded and insane as the guy who wrote that article. Rethink your fucking life, please.
>B-B-Baldur's Gate 3 isn't woke guys! I totally didn't just look at it's sales numbers and come up with that conclusion after the fact! Pinky promise!If BG3 flopped it would absolutely be called woke. Heck, almost any game that wasn't a huge success that feature a character like pic related would be deemed woke.
>>735057587>We’ve reached the point where some players are more emotionally invested in a game failing than in any game actually being good.What is the alternative proposed? People playing bad video games?More people are being negative towards games, than positive. Because there's more bad games, than good games.If the market was absolutely fucking saturated with 9/10's, everyone would be too busy playing them to be shitposting.
>>735059830You just described most games that /v/ calls woke though
>>735059957So, you're just spending your time watching the two sets of retards be retarded.
>>735059720Funny that they'll claim everything is trans-coded but probably vehemently reject this notion.
>>735060018They are woke. People just have different thresholds for what is acceptable woke. A lot of people are fine with inclusivity as long as it's not hamfisted. It's just that a lot of game studios can't help themselves, and always make the inclusion annoying.For people like me, I don't like any inclusivity if you can't justify it from the setting or period. You can't have niggers in your royal bloodline. If you do want that, stop calling it a royal bloodline and stop biting off the concept of a monarchy.
live service slop and all devs who make it deserve this, they make fake games i cheer on their death.
>>735057576>spend years alienating and wringing your core fanbase dry of any good will you might have had>act all hurt when they cheer when you stumble
>we spewed hatred and vitriol towards our customers for over a decade>WHY DO THEY HATE US????
>>735057576>le toorrrrtanicInb4 the boomer or boomer wannabe comes in shouting boomer buzzwords.Also it's Concordian now, or Battleborn or Radical Heights, future is now old man.
>>735059335>Is it because there are some left-leaning employees at Bungie? News flash: almost every studio has some of them.And that's why all of them are strugglingI'm still not going to buy the slop, me and chuddah over here just waiting
>>735057576>>735057587But.. this seems all correct? Like, name a thing wrong with this analysis?>>735058931That's because "go woke go broke" and "woke slop" doesn't actually have anything to do with actual wokeness. It's a culture war trick. How much right wingers will yell about something being "woke" depends on how bad the product is."woke" is anything that doesn't align with right political views. And since that's almost everything in modern life, you can find "woke" in almost every piece of media. It can be as little as a pride flag, a gay character, it can be just a pronoun option. It's in basically every piece of media. So now you just need to wait for a piece of media to be shit, and then blame the woke. Example Star Wars: Star Wars Acolyte was a shit show. But it also had lesbian space witches. Lesbians are "woke" powerful female characters are "woke", so a double reason to blame it being shit on "woke". However: Star Wars: Andor had lesbian space antifa fighters. That's HELLA woke. But the show was really good. So we don't get 20 youtube channels making 15 videos each, about it ruining star wars with the wokeness. Or the suicide squad game. All we heard about it was that it was woke. Why? Because it has gay pride flags in the base, and Harley Quinn kills a mind controlled batman. To anti-wokes a woman killing a man is like their holocaust. But would suicide squad be good if we took that out? Was that really the issue with the game? Or was it the fact that they forced a single player studio to make open world looter shooter battlepass games as a service slop? Same with concord. All the crying about woke. If they took the "woke" designs out (wokes didn't even like the designs either) would you have played it? Was that the only thing wrong with it? It's a trick. You find something that's shit, AND woke, you point at the woke, and you say: "aha! Of course it's shit, it's woke!" without ever proving any correlation.
>>735058931I heard about the bear shit and decided to never even play it. I WAS going to pirate it and see if it was worth supporting, but now I shan't.Don't put heretical shit in games. Not that hard. The bar is on the ground.
>>735060289ChatGPT post
>>735060289And I can see the answers already: "But look at all this woke shit that flopped". Yeah? Again you know what all that woke shit also had? Men working on it. Men in the game. They are also largely AAA titles. There are so many things all these flops have in common. But if I pointed to a flop and said: "ah, men were involved, of course it's shit" you would recognize that I have not proven a correlation. Yet if someone does the same with "woke" everyone nods in agreement: "Yeah that must be it".
@735060369>replying to yourself
>>735060289>>735060369Cool story faggot name one good woke game.Be warned I'm going to disagree with you and tell you you have shit taste.
>>735060289>"woke" is anything that doesn't align with right political viewsNo, woke is being preoccupied with hamfisted libtard identity politics. Simple.
>>735060289>But.. this seems all correct? Like, name a thing wrong with this analysis?The article blames the customer for daring to voice his feedback on a commercial product. Nothing correct about that, typical californian tranny delusion that customers somehow own their money and time to entertainment products.
Most of the internet now consists of human vegetables, waiting to receive their next set of subconscious orders from whoever is paying. Obviously that is exploitable for politics and social control but in the dumb reality we live in a company like Nexon could easily pay some chinkoids pennies on the dollar to say woke a few times on 4chan and the lost individual's eyes will light up like a terminator hearing the special word
>>735060289We've been burned so many times we can just assume woke = shit. Maybe it won't be shit, but there's no reason to give the benefit of the doubt anymore.
Why are they lying? Nobody give two shit what online comunities think of Marathon. And shitposting on 4chan doesn't count as hate, it's boredom.It failed by its own merits. It failed artistically. It failed to keep players engaged. Simple as that.
>>735060369>Again you know what all that woke shit also had? Men working on it>"Men"
>>735060551>chudda literally can't stop winninghow does he do it?
>>735060369there is mayor correlation between woke teams creating bad and ugly games.most good looking fun games were made by teams of men
>>735057587>anti-live-service resentmentWhy is he framing this as if it's an unreasonable stance to have
>>735057576Even if you ignore all the hate, it's genuinely a bad game already overrun with cheaters.This article is just cope and shifting the blame of it's failure to the chuds who could smell the stank from miles away before we could taste it.
tortanic ruined a whole generation of election tourists
>>735058931BG3 is woke.
>>735060502Is the problem is that someone calls the game woke, wouldn't the solution be not put woke shit in the game?Someone calling a non-woke game woke never gains traction.
>>735060369the ayatollah ain't coming back bruh
>>735060289>Like, name a thing wrong with this analysis?Everything he complained about implies that he's only seeing the surface level complaints and deciding the schadenfreude is the only thing people are caring about when it's a much bigger picture as a whole.People are calling every new live service game a "Concord" because every single major one that has appeared has not only looked bad in terms of trying to appeal to people either through their character designs or their unappealing visuals, but is also a direct showcase that companies are wasting absurd amounts of money on games that should have been spent funding dozens of other games with those same budgets. They are chasing the dragon of live service that is not only an extreme rarity to even succeed in, but also spending ridiculous amounts of money to do so using genres that are either too niche or too oversaturated when they could be using that money to fund countless other games all for the sake of long-term monetization.Regarding Bungie: Of course people are going to be pissed about Bungie and want to see them fail. They're a skeleton of a company lacking the old guard that made them who they are, have terrible business practices people don't want to see encouraged, and have had terrible good will for nearly a decade now due to their Destiny releases.All he is doing is blaming the customers for complaining about the industry flinging live service games at everyone using absurd amounts of money to do so. Then when they realize it's oversaturated you have major names in the industry shutting down because the games immediately flop. The industry is targeting a market that does no exist repeatedly and keeps failing trying to reach said market. There is no "modern audience" which should be extremely apparent with how people vehemently despise these games, what they stand for, and how everyone seems to have forgotten to make things people actually want.
>>735060369When writing future bait, just include it all in the first post.
>>735057576TOTAL BUNGIE RAPE
>>735060502>Its the people who refuse to buy shitty products that are the mind controlled sheep.>Now shut up and buy our next product.No.
Im posting it again.Destiny Rising is making less than the Will Smith Zombie Game on Google Play.>well maybe they are using NetEases own top up store or Razer GoldBrother. Be for real.
blaming a game's failure at making a dime on twitter and chuds was a thing when SW:TOR came out, yet zeni and bioware soldiered on and made the game profitable anywaywhy cant these fucks like the dev team behind hyenas, slopguard and concord do the same? they are even making fucking extraction shooters, not MMORPGs that are literal black holes of budget for a year after they launch
>>735060289>But would suicide squad be good if we took that out?Wokefags wanted to push their shit into every game they could find. They succeeded more than they could have ever imagine. As a result, every piece of garbage got woke added into it, because woke became a fad. It became mainstream. Now, woke has become synonymous with trash. Maybe there should be a movement to tell untalented people, from untalented studios, to stop shoving woke into every game. But they won't stop. Because they don't care if the game is shit. They just want to keep pushing woke. Otherwise, someone somewhere, in all those woke games, would've stood up and said, "This game is shit. We should focus on making the game better first instead of anything else."
>>735060289It is wrong because it ignores the reality of why this is happening, and over generalises about what is actually happening to boot. On top of which the article is just a poor attempt to try and garner or portray some form of authority on the matter so that they can then shift the narrative. Journalists just don't like the fact that we can communicate with each other en masse which undercuts what little influence and relevance they might still have left. Regardless it is not the customer's fault if you make a shit product nor is it their responsibility to still buy it or not talk about the fact it is shit. And if the reasons being given for something being shit aren't true then that will be self evident and won't stick in the long run. All this guy is trying to do is damage control as an extension of marketing, and it doesn't work anymore because we all now know that gaming journalist's opinions are worthless and paid for.
>>735060639There is no woke shit in the game, that's the thing. Like I don't know where the fuck that even comes from. Both thief and disruptor are incredibly feminine normal designs, and there is nothing lore wise that is even touching social issues that would align it with "woke". It is just standard cyberpunk shit
>>735057756>Buy Mega Man Star Force collection instead of Marathon >Sony loses $4 billion>Game journos get an ulcer the size of the Great Canyon
>>735057587>The online mob turning every launch into a ritual sacrifice deserves criticism too.no it doesn'tI do not care about the poor multi-million game companies being pointed and laughed at.I will continue to do nothing
>>735060289name one game that sweet baby inc was involved in and became a success story
>>735060860Bungie is extremely woke and deserves to fail >But what about the gameI don't care, wokies get ropies.
>>735057576I thought Forbes was a gen x website about Viagra and irrelevant ceos and Hollywood actors
People are generalizing this to a bunch of people who just think Marathon is stupidDestiny 2 pissed off a LOT of people
>>735060860come on now...
>>735060860Barely feminine. Barely normal. The Marathon cast look like agenderless blobs with racial features.They're like Concord, but less round. There's a certain type of woke aesthetic that can really be called Concordlike, and that's Marathon.
>>735060741The chuddha meme is so gay. Obsessively posting about a game you have no interest in playing is possibly one of the least Buddhist things you could do
>>735060947out of curiosity I went to check, and they're all massive gigaflops with the exception of GoW ragnarok and spiderman 2
>>735060860>There is no woke shit in the game, that's the thing.The general art style is unappealing to most though, a bunch of metrosexual fashion nightmare weirdos shooting each other with plastic guns. And Bungie as a company is heavily woke these days so that doesn't help either.
>>735061051They are basically androids, so maybe that aesthetic reads that way to you
>>735061052>Obsessively postingI'm not the one making threads of being upset about people choosing to not buy a product. Why are you shilling for big companies again?
>>735060993not since this rat has been one of their journos for a while now, using it as a podium to spout his agenda
>>735060835>All this guy is trying to do is damage control as an extension of marketing, and it doesn't work anymore because we all now know that gaming journalist's opinions are worthless and paid forthis pretty much nails it on the head, good post
>>735061112the kike rat sexual abuser coverup guy is at bloomberg not forbes
>>735061112You're mixing Bloomberg and Forbes. Jason jumped ship from Kotaku to Bloomberg.
There's one thing the author ain't wrong on: none of you can explain why this game is woke>DEI hires!Show me the credits and indicate which employees are "DEI hires"
>>735061097Yeah, gender wasn't important, but we definitely need to make them look black or asian.
>dont buy woke slop>it fails>i laugh>journalists get mind broken>i forget a week later>they make more woke slop>the cycle continues
>blah blah blah it's not our fault we made a shit gamewas this even worth sharing
>>735060860>It is just standard cyberpunk shitNo, this is standard cyberpunk shit.
Sorry not reading that garbage.Nope, not buying Marathon either.
>>735061181>Show me the credits and indicate which employees are "DEI hires"Bungie
>>735061080i also distinctly recall both of those games being criticized to hell and back for emasculating their male lead characters, niggerifiying and/or uglyfying the cast and having dogshit storiesragnarok I can kinda understand why it was successful, but spiderman 2 is an enigma to me as literally everyone into spooderman has told me to not touch it and just play the first one>>735061151>>735061169my bad, thanks anons, disregard my rat comment
>>735061110I'm not shilling for shit I just think that desperately seeking drama is extremely effeminate behavior. They write the Enquirer for people like you, you big bitch
>>735057576Rooting for shit you fucking gut instinct dislike to fail is no abnormal, what WAS abnormal is the culture of "respect media even if it fucking sucks" because that produces shit nobody actually fucking wanted but everyone was too polite to say so.People having a gut reflex to reject a new game skinwalking the Marathon name is similar to reason all the Disney and Netflix blackwashing was a fucking black hole for profits. Only, under those auspices they could dismiss all critique as "you're just secretly racist" instead of listen to reason. That being, that hugely changing an established series will always always piss off the existing fanbase that (allegedly) you were trying to cater to. Telling existing fans their thing is different now, they didn't and won't get a vote on it, and they are kicked out and spat on if they question it looks like nothing more than a hostile takeover and the fucking instinctual response is to want a bad direction stopped, that we would rather Marathon (and Bungie) be fucking dead forever and ever than see them bastardize and fuck up their IPs.
>>735061215He... he can't do that, somebody stop him he's killing games!
>>735061181I'm not nearly as worried about this "woke" shit as you are. I just see a game nobody wanted.
>>735057576>The hatred towards Marathon must end.
>>735061241>I'm not shilling for shita hit dog will holler
>>735061263I also see a game nobody wanted. I just feel no need to scream "woke" to articulate why this dispassionate arena-based hero shooter failed
>>735061241>I'm not shilling for shit I just think that desperately seeking drama is extremely effeminate behavior.Yet here you are in this thread whining about the fact people are enjoying their schadenfreude. How dare people talk about newly released games in /v/ of all places? People should only say kind words and nothing else.
>>735057587lol suggesting destiny players aren't in the right.
>>735061245i see it more as journos flailing in panic as they know AI will steadily replace them, same as the talentless hacks who they are trying to defend with these hot takes about online discourse being mean causing their games to fail and not the fact these are forgettable, shit projects noone asked forin fact i find it very funny that they lash out against the one layer of online presence thats not dominated by AI yet instead of trying to work out how to win these people over
>>735057576>Concord 2Actually it's Concord 3, isn't it?
>leave the billion dollar company alone
>>735058931You can kill all the woke characters in BG3, so it's a different beast entirely.
>>735057587>anti-live-service resentmentwhy is this framed as a bad thing
I'm having a blast.
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY CANT WE DO A HECKING ICONOCLASM OF WESTERN FRANCHISES WITH DOG SHIT GRAPHICAL STYLES AND GAMEPLAY AND POZZED AGENDAS AND EVERY JUST EATS IT UUUUUUUUUUUPPPPP?!?!?!the urbanite yearns for the coal mine
I really like this huge game companies + games journalism vs. people who actually play games erathey're trying so hard to gaslight people into accepting this bullshit and nobody is buying it
>>735058931woke is literally the reason I never bought the gameyou are demented and refusing to believe the reality thats in front of youpeople do not want your stupid ridiculous religion
>>735057576>hateI don't hate it. I literally do not give a shit about the game.
>>735061446gonna go out on a limb and say the article isn't about you specifically then
>>735061358depends if you're counting mainline or spinoff. Mainline it's concord 3, counting spinoffs it's like concord 6, concord 8 if you also count the pioneers in the concord genre like battleborn and hyenas
>>735061326>to articulate why this dispassionate arena-based hero shooterAnd why is it dispassionate? Because the developers are wokeshit diversity hires. Did you forget about the whole art theft fiasco where their own diversity hire turned out to be plagiarizing content?
>>735057576>They want studios publicly humiliated for making the wrong kind of game.yesname and shame the devs too because it's really funny
>please be nice to your demoralization propaganda producers, they only want to scalp you alive while making really bad games even a woman could handle No!
>>735057587>anti-live-service resentmentI have anti-live-service resentment fatigue........
>>735060456By the anti-wokes standard: literally any game with a powerful woman. Or a black man. Fucking Final Fantasy 7 for all I care. But again: You're not gonna agree because the strategy is: If the game is good, downplay the woke, if the game is bad, claim the woke did it. >>735060458and "hamfisted libtard itdentity politics" will be defined as "literally anything right wingers don't like". can pick pronouns? Woke. Gay people? Woke. >>735060526again: no causal connection proven. All just correlation. Personally you know what I see in most of these big fucking slop flops? Greedy publishers. People putting "What makes the most money" before "What makes the best game". But that doesn't further the culture war. >>735060595My bad, I should have said "no proven causal relation" as the saying is "correlation does not equal causation". I fucked that up. What I meant is that just because there is a correlation, does not mean that it is the causation of the slopification of modern AAA. >>735060662Hit character limit. >>735060801Not really. what culture war faggots see as woke pushing is for most people just normal. You yourself said it became mainstream. So what, it's a small minority pushing an agenda? Or it's just the mainstream belief? Spoiler: It's just the mainstream. Most people think having gays is fine, having blacks is fine. The only part where it is synonymous with trash is in right wing culture war circles, where it is propagandized as the reason your media sucks, while ignoring the billion dollar companies that are actually ruining it.
>>735061517The jew found the thread.
>>735061517kek
>>735061329I think people should talk about the actual substance of games and not kiwifarms tier tertiary bullshit. There should be a containment board for this shit and you guys can sit in a circle and jerk each other off to steam charts
>>735061528This anon?Raped and gaped by chudda
>>735061548>no no you should only talk about games the way *I* likeNTA but maybe reddit would be more your speed
>>735061528>Not really. what culture war faggots see as woke pushing is for most people just normal.Ah yes that esteemed Modern Audience that doesn't seem to turn up whenever a new product is made for them.
>>735061493>happy women's day to our non-binary developerswait, if they are non-binary why would they delebrate a day that makes them part of a binary system? is this the same retarded logic that had bella ramsey, who identifies as a non-binary potato, be nominated as an actress at the golden globes?whats even the point of identifying as something outside the binary gender system and then act like youre part of it for acknowledgment and potential clout anyway?
>>735061491>the concord genreI really want to see mainstream adoption of this.
>>735061358Depends on who you ask. I'd say it's 2, since Highguard is not a Sony project. Highguard is unofficially a Concord installment, but officially, Marathon is 2.
>>735061417They were always in collusion but it was largely benign until the industry at large started delivering dogshit like this constantly. Console gaming especially really relied upon the hype machine to get those up front sales. Even if things weren't perfect at least the cost and time investment to take shots wasn't so terrible so it coasted by on that fact. But now with games costing as much as they do with all the various time demands, system demands, account demands, and so on and so on just to end up with some shit that wasn't worth the money or effort it all adds up in the end. And it keeps happening way too consistently and often to be ignored now. What we are seeing is the inevitable backlash to it all. You can only lie to a customer and gaslight for so long before they wake up.
>>735061548I think people should discuss whatever facet of gaming they want to discuss. Consensus breaking is for faggots and shills and just because you invoke kiwiniggers I'm not gonna agree that we should just ban discussion you don't like.Because you are indeed a faggot
>>735061151they're all kike rat sexual abuserssocial terrorists too, they only thing they exist to do is molest, lie, slander, defame, doxx, intimidate, mislead. That's what being a journalist means and 90% of the time they're jewish too.
>>735057576ok but robots and characters in game should be quite attractive or how can you sell skins? this is a universal fundamental of social interaction people prefer attractive characters and this naturally leads to a better financial reality for productsmake the robots hot and sell hot robot skins
>>735061594I have been here since 2008 you nigger, celebrating a massive commercial failure used to mean something. Personally I thought the Andromeda threads were hilarious. But when it's every other fucking game with this shit it's just boring
>>735061630>social terrorists tooAs if the economic terrorists weren't bad enough
>>735061548>I think people should talk about the actual substance of gamesOk the game is a run of the mill extraction shooter with an ugly as fuck art style and uninspired designs and gameplay. The reason why the designs are uninspired is because its designed by a bunch of diversity hires who hate guns and don't like shooter genre as a whole. Californian dev teams still trying to get women design products aimed at men and then wondering why the results are lacking.
>>735061643sorry, best I can do is 20$ for a recolor4 billion market value btw
>>735061548this exact sentence can apply to people that want to ignore why these games look unappealing ontop of being shit so right back at you tranny
>>735061490I'm a gamer though. I game.
>>735057576ALL live service games are trashmultiplayer, gacha, hero shooter, all of them>inb4 b-butfucking hang yourself, you waste of oxygen
>>735057576Over saturate of team shooter in the market.History of fuck up management in their game.History of plagiarism, not just copy idea but literally almost 1:1 copy from the original, to the point it's unforgivable in art community. Badly advertisement.
>>735061732this board is not for you friend
>>735061643on that note is first descendant still being actively worked on as a live service game? not trying to be facetious, i just remember it as a good example of a generic UE5 survival builder thing with big titty pornstar characters
>>735057576Hating Marathon is not a sport. It's a passion.
>>735061670You've been here since 2008 yet still come to threads to whine about people talking about current game and how shit it is? Do you also go to every single /vg/ thread and whine they shouldn't talk about games you don't find interesting? Or are you just a larping discord tranny because you sure as hell sound like one.If you don't like the thread subject matter then feel free to leave. Nobody is forcing you to be here.
>>735061681Oops, seems like you couldn't control yourself and immediately slid into some political gay shit because you are an NPC
>>735061732me too, but I'm playing 10 year old games, because everything recently released is trashI wouldn't even bother playing games at all if the entire industry were this marathon style AAA goyslop
>>735061643Well, it's bungie, so it's one of two things;>Make the base characters all look like shit, then sell skins to make them marginally less gross to look atOr>The art department genuinely thinks they're hot shit and their plastic lego playermodels are good and subversive or something
>everything has gone to shit, but secretly it's just you wishing it and not demonstrably provable several times over, stop antisemitism, live service is a-okayOh yeah, his jew masters have just realized how deep in shit they are, expect laugh pieces like this to escalate and become as frequent and widespread as those 2011 manifestos while journos were being raped.
Extraction shooters are garbage. End of story.
>>735061792I'm in this thread to call you a nigger and will continue to do soThe hate campaign against this game is one of the stupidest things modern /v/ has produced
>>735061797Name one makeup product designed by manly men for women, that is a best seller. Go ahead.
>>735057576>>735057587And this is bad because...?
>>735061847>I will continue whining about people saying bad things about a video game!lmao keep sucking that corporate cock, tranny shill.
>>735057576it's more fun to hate the game than play it
>>735061850I don't know anything about makeup you gay ass nigga
>>7350618571. you done a fucking antisemitism2. the line will go down3. you're doing a fucking racism4. buy the fucking game you economic terrorist
>>735061776I think it's because nexon had given that project over to a group of uni graduates>backbone of a destiny x warframe clone>content made by your local community college student>oops no content!so yeah it went from a big hype release with issue to people realizing the content quality was laughable and also no content was being updated into the game
>>735061847don't like it then make better games, it's not hard lol
>>735061857Standards are for nazis. You're not a nazi, are you citizen?
the "ritual sacrifice "is larry fink/rothschild kikes burning money in the goyim's faces and dancing on western gaming's grave
>>735057576>you must like the slop, goy!No.
>>735061889Stop being so political, tranny
Can somebody just point out to me a single GOOD live service game that was actually killed by gamers hoping it would flop?
>>735061752>Over saturate of team shooter in the marketThe funny thing about GaaS is that the genre doesn't really matter. They aren't just competing against other games of the same genre in the same way that SP games are. Because of the time investment demand and FOMO they are actually competing against every other GaaS out there as well as people's SP game library. It is one of the core issues of the GaaS approach that they don't really acknowledge or discuss.
>>735061913oh no they typically sacrifice goy children, not moneyyour ancestors were right about them
one day these people will realize constantly blaming the consumer isn't going to save your company when you keep putting out shit nobody wants
I hate gaming industry and i hope it will all crash and burn.
>>735061936According to game journalists: All of them. Those evil online chuds in /v/ have tremendous power in the industry and hold the real customers hostage at gunpoint.
>>735061968wonder whats under all that concrete on little st jamesguess well never find out
>>735057576>nyooooo, don't retaliate!!!!!!
>>735061528>Not really...It's always a small minority pushing an agenda. The activists, the extremists, the radicals, the elites, etc. To take an example from American history, the Founding Fathers of America were considered radicals for their time and only around 1/3rd of the American colonies supported revolution. Another 1/3rd wanted to stay loyal to Great Britain. The last 1/3rd were neutral. But then the Revolutionaries won and over time it became normal to stop thinking of themselves as British colonies and begin thinking of themselves as Americans (or rather Virginians, New Yorkers, Carolinians, Ohioans, etc). Now, you're right. Woke has gone mainstream. It was pushed into everything. Games, movies, songs, etc. And what happened was two fold. First, people started to think it went too far. Yea, people are okay with gays and blacks in media, but they don't like the trans. They don't like the degree of gays and blacks. Gays are like 2% of the American population and Blacks are like 15% of the population of America. Woke media does not represent them proportionally. Instead, Woke media tries to correct for decades of a lack of representation of these minority groups by flooding media with them over the past decade. And now, the people who aren't gay or black are kind sick of it. Second, because it went mainstream, all the garbage that was in mainstream just tacked woke on. It didn't matter how it was put on, because woke was in. It was the new fad. It was also insurance against getting cancelled. Because "silence is violence". In the Me Too era of woke, NOT putting woke shit into your product meant you were hiding something and then you got cancelled. So, people just hired some woke consultants and woke staff and said put your woke shit in so I don't lose my job. Part 1/2
>>735058931>There really isn't anything woke about Marathon.you need to get your eyes checked shill boy
>>735060180If we collectively aren't actively attempting to derail and sabotage these companies for crimes against gamers then they will win and completely erase 50 years of our hobby for the sake of chasing good boy points and this non-buying modern audience.I will laugh and cheer for every failure.
>>735061805The ideal of woke millenial faggots is to be 'transgressive' their great ideal is to make something insulting to the consumer for the crime of existing as a healthy person and having biological kneejerk negativity to nasty faggot shit. Not that I'm saying Marathons artstyle is all bad I quite like most of it but the devs know they're not being earnest when this is what you see at the character select full of quips. There isn't a woman alive that wants to play as this character after that brilliant cinematic promotion.
>>735059335>it's pathetic to enjoy looking at attractive designsyou are a misandristand i bet you pretend to fight for equality too
this summerchudda is not buying the woke slop*power by kanye west starts playing
>>735061936people cant because arc raiders should be an extremely inoffensive nothingburger, yet its a standout amidst all the crap we've got for the past 2 years in the genrethe narrative should be that the game is woke as it doesnt have a gallery of big titty attractive female characters, yet magically the twitter mob didnt give a fuck about that and instead are ok just enjoying it for what it isit was also released amidst all the concord projects so it makes OP's article look even more retarded
>>735058615this so much this, they are right to fear!OHOHOHO i cant stop laughing its find out time
SORRY FOR MARATHONING
>>735061857Don't ask questions. Consume product, &etc. etc.
>>735061994it's hilarious that this is patently ridiculous but the kvetching by the pedophiles make it clear they really do think like this
>>735061936>Can somebody just point out to me a single GOOD live service gameImpossible. But if you ask the cocksucker brigade, Concord, Highguard and Marathon have all brought good things to the table (they have never played any).
why does the epsteinocracy insist on ardently defending every wokeflop?
Does anybody want to try our game? Can you white-coded japanese chuds just stop looking at problematic anime breasts and play our game? I know you yellow people are the modern audience who enjoy seeing black people on the screen, this game was made for you! Hello? Anybody?
>>735059335cant tell if larping as a gaming circlejerk weirdo or real
>>735057576>you mustNo.
>>735061975They don't need to sell, they're paid to churn out propaganda. The objective is criminalizing dissent.
Hating on AAA slop is fun, free-to-play, and has a very generous and consistent reward system.
>>735059413we wish
>>735057576>Written by Poo Lassiof course
>>735062128This was completely taxpayer funded by the EU, so he doesn't give a shit. He just has to go through the song of dance of looking like it's a legitimate game and not a scam.
>>735062128I wonder if these kinda devs have a heart attack having to spend a day at a convention center that's full of anime tiddies and has 0 black attendants.
>>735062158considering how much money sony wasted on this company im sure they actually want it to sell
Oh boy another trannyEra astroturf thread, you will never be a woman just like marathon will never be a success
They have a point, though. Marathon is just another goyslop hero shooter that would have passed like a fart in a hurricane if not for the frankly autistic hateboner that some people seem to have for it. Same for Highguard.
>>735060562
https://files.catbox.moe/qr5s4y.mp4Once you realize majority of the anti-marathon sperging is a very vocal handful of schizos it all makes sense, not gonna bother reading the OP article but I wonder if they discovered this
>>735058641Its also funny that he acts like he shouod decide whats valid preference and what isnt. If I don't like it I won't buy it, irrespective of journo approval. And me not liking it doesnt have to make sense to them.
>>735062183>so he doesn't give a shitIf you go in the dev teams website they still have PTSD over Dustborn being a tremendous flop. He's a real believer.
>>735061595>Ah yes that esteemed Modern Audience that doesn't seem to turn up whenever a new product is made for them.Anon, the Idea isn't "omg people love the gay and the blacks so much, you make a forespoken they'll buy it in droves just for that!!" No the truth is: Including blacks, and gays and whatnot in media is just normal. It's not "omg I must buy this!!!" for normal people. Nobody claimed it is. Games like Forespoken suck for a variety of reasons outside of including a black woman. That game would not be good with a straight white male lead, or a hot asian girl. It's just a shit game. So it sold like ass. You expect "inclusion" to sell games, and nobody ever said it would. People just think media with inclusion is generally better than media without. That doesn't mean that media with inclusion can't fucking suck ass. I mentioned in my example two star wars shows with inclusion of lesbians. One witches, one antifa fighters. One was bad, one was good, both were "inclusive". What makes a piece of media good or bad has little to nothing to do with how "woke" it is. That's the propaganda machine that wants you angry at the wokies. So you don't look at the executive putting battle passes in fucking everything. Again: think of the worst "go woke go broke" flops. Which one of them would you play, if someone modded out the woke elements? Concord? Bloodlines 2? Saints Row? Watch Dogs Legion? What game that flopped hard would actually be good if the woke was revoked? Because here's the truth. Apart for maybe.. fucking dustborn games aren't bad because of woke content. They're bad because they are shit games to the core. "woke" is just in everything now. So they're tricking you by pointing it out as the reason why shit sucks, instead of the real issues.
>>735059837crazy how these preachy annoying fucks that dont buy anything do make it their business to make everything ugly and disgusting but if we go "fine make your genderless disgusting shit we will laugh at it flopping cause we are done buying it" they go "what happened to just saying its not for me and moving on".No you annoying retarded karens, you couldnt do that, so now we get to do discourse too.
>>735062225kek at least AI made him try and fight back.
>>735061595wtf I didn't realize Ragnar was behind Dustborn, what kinda troonjuice did he drink, I thought he was a good writer
>>735062220>>735062242>Just tiny amount of people so they don't matter.But the article says the exact opposite, that theres a huge problematic online mob that is responsible for destroying the reputation of these games. So which one is it? You can't have both.
>>735062220that actually means we've generously given them more sales they should be thanking us for even speaking of the gameThey'd have made even less money if we simply ignored it and said nothing at all.
>>735061528>The only part where it is synonymous with trash is in right wing culture war circles, where it is propagandized as the reason your media sucks, while ignoring the billion dollar companies that are actually ruining it.It's not just right wing culture war circles where woke is the reason why media sucks now. Unless you think the critical and commercial failures of media projects filled with a lot of wokeness didn't actually fail. In fact, the thriving of the right wing culture grifters should tell you as much. These grifters shouldn't have gotten so big if they couldn't find an eager audience. If you say, it's just pandering or manipulation or whatever, that's true of the other side as well. It's not as if lying to consumers is unique to the right win. But when it comes to entertainment products, the point is to give the consumers what they want. Which, admittedly, is easier said than done. Which is why the commercial success of a woke/anti-woke game, including metrics like Steam Charts, matter so much in the cultural war in video games. Success is determined by the market. In which case, whether a game is woke or not should not matter to a developer. But try telling a woke developer/studio not to put woke in their games. It's against their ideology not to push their agenda whenever they can. They're secularist evangelicals. As for the "billion dollar companies" that are actually ruining video games. Here are some of those companies:>Nintendo>Sony>Xbox>EA>Activision/Blizzard>Take-Two>Roblox>Valve>Ubisoft>CD Projekt Red>Bandai Namco>Square Enix>Capcom>Tencent>Nexon>NeteaseetcALL video game companies worth billions of dollars. All of them ruining video games, apparently, even though video games are bigger than they've ever been, more widely consumed than they've ever been and more profitable than they've ever been. If the market determines success, then these billion dollar companies are answering and doing very well. Part 2/2
>>735062285Inclusion/diversity included at the cost of story/setting cohesion does turn people away.Like adding crippled wheelchair characters to a world that has healing magic in it for example.
>>735062337case in point
>>735062331I didn't write the article nigga, I don't care what it says.
>>735062285>Including blacks, and gays and whatnot in media is just normalIt isn't, and I won't buy games that do itthis thread is full of coping and seething that I and my fellow chuddhists are refusing to buy games with niggers and trannies in themwe're simultaenously a minority that doesn't matter but also so large and influential we're artificially making games fail (lol)you keep right on thinking trannies and niggers will make your game sell more, and when it inevitably doesn't and you waste your money, I am going to laugh at you
>>735062404https://steamdb.info/app/1895900/charts/
>>735062285>So it sold like ass. You expect "inclusion" to sell games, and nobody ever said it would. >People just think media with inclusion is generally better than media without.
>>735062285>You expect "inclusion" to sell games, and nobody ever said it would.Funny, the CEO of sweet baby inc was on twitter saying that employees should market their services to management by selling it as a marketing issue.Btw, there's a reason overwatch's rebranding lined up with them releasing hot babes again.
>>735062506
>>735062047Corporations that want you to own nothing and be happy are the ones who are going to shove their foot up your ass while you dog after the expendable devs.
>>735061548its called /v/go back to your reddit hugbox where marathon is a smash hit
>>735061196man i love cyberpunk it even has tachikomasif marathon looked like this id buy it
i dont even play games anymore, the failure of the woke game is the new game to me
I swear to god the matter exfiltrates sometimes bug out whether it’s audio not starting or changing locations randomly mid exfil there have been so many times where something like that has gone wrong last second.
>>735062527if we arent their audience who the fuck is
>>735062242there is no fucking way this is real holy shit
Ban Paul Tassi threads
>>735060289>Like, name a thing wrong with this analysis?The #1 wrong thing about this analysis is writing it in defense of Sony and Bungie when they push out shit like Marathon.Three maps. One of the most anti-customer season passes. Grind to unlock a version of the gun with a flat purple barrel instead of a gray barrel. Something like three enemy types etc. Not to mention the 'original sin' that is extraction shooters in general.
>>735062506I honestly don't see most developers including diversity to draw in customers to buy their games. I see them including diversity to draw in customers to buy their stock.
>>735060582>how does he do it?That's the best part.
>>735062242based patrick
>>735062665Don't forget Bungie breaking promises with last 2 Halo games and the whole art-theft drama. Goodwill for the game company was already depleted so Marathon had to basically be more than just mediocre to have any hopes of breaking even.
>>735062619I dunno but those fuckers ain't buying games eitehr
>>735062668The strategy of pissing off your customers for the sake of shareholders is working great for Ubisoft.
>>735060835this anon understands
>>735062128A reminder that Dustborn is made by Ragnar Tørnquist the same guy that made The Longest Journey back in the 90s. After Dustborn flopped he already secured a new game project with funding from the EU, Norway, and Epic Games. Pic related>https://svalbardgame.com/>From Red Thread Games, the development team behind Dreamfall Chapters, Draugen, Dustborn...">Epic MegaGrants is a $100 million initiative by Epic Games... Grants range from $5,000 to $500,000, with no repayment required.Dustborn was also funded by his activist elite friends>Red Thread Games and Quantic Dream privately funded most of the game budget, with the developer also receiving over 13.6 million NOK from the Norwegian Film Institute.[5][6][7] Additionally, the game received a grant of €150,000 from the EU's Creative Europe project, and 300,000 NOK from Viken Filmsenter>$1,395,047 USD>Quantic Dream i.e. Detroit Become Human i.e. David CageIt should be noted that Ragnar comes from a wealthy family who paid for a lavish private education from Norway to London and NYC. One wonders whether he could simply pay for his own studios development yet still takes these giant paychecks from state funding which really muddies the ethics of what he's doing or whether his work is valuable.
>>735058931>Tons of people on /v/ said Baldur's Gate 3 was wokeIt is, but that's not as offensive as the dogshit writing. I fucking hate Gen X faggots and their unfunny tongue-in-cheek self-aware bullshit.
>>735062619You are the audience but you're supposed to uncritically swallow the garbage and ask for more while opening your wallet and giving them all your money, you're doing a racism sexism antisemitism by not not playing their games and not giving them money
i have one question to all you people watching the steam charts on your second monitor, waiting for some imaginary threshold to be crossed where the devs are all laid off and another studio closes: who will be making your games when it's all over? when you've chased all the artists and visionaries out of the hobby because nothing they do is good enough for you?will it be the right wing grifters who sell you a game 10 years before they have anything to show for it, then run away with the money in 5? will it be AI?
>>735062665glad I'm not the only one who's started referring to customers as customers and not "consumers"
>>735062789if not a single californian or canadian were involved in game development ever again I would fucking cheer
>>735057576>spend the last decade antagonizing and attacking people who buy, play and engage with video game discussion, calling them names writing articles about how they're over>they finally fight back the only way they can: by not buying, shitposting and laughing at your flop slop>"nooo how could this happen to us?!!"These fuckers have zero self awareness
i dont get why journos are so upset. didnt they already get paid for their shill articles? i guess they need the clicks on articles for shitful dead games or else theyll lose their jobs.its never about the actual fucking video games.
>>735062789Maybe all of those, maybe none of those.No new games could come out starting tomorrow, and I would have enough games to play for the rest of my lifetime. Modern developers aren't just competing with each other, they're competing with the medium's greatest.
>>735057587If market doesn't offer people what they want, people want to see market to crash. This is just slop saying people are wrong. Not big companies. Most of time this desire to failure comes from resentment over type and quality of games. Only ocasionally it's about how annoying company is.
>>735062752Thats normal for government culture funding, they usually land on politicians friends or rich artist kids with rich parents. Reason is as simple as governments knowing fuck all about art and culture so they're easy prey for corruption and nepotism. Anyone can make an application requesting that money for their project but usually friends of politicians are first on the line waiting.Blasphemus is another example. Original game was a kickstarter funded project. When it did well enough apparently they got spanish government culture funding to do the DLCs and the 2nd game. Governments don't really like funding unproven teams, they fund something that was already successful and didn't really need the money.
>>735058931Bg3 is woke and woke parts are the weakest parts of the game. But act 1&2 are fun adventures. When there is no alternative. People just looked other way and and had their adventure.
>Article written by Paul Tassi a lifelong bungie/destiny shillOpinion discarded
>>735062789japantheyre better at it too
Don't care about marathon. I have been playing syntetik 2 and having absolute blast.
>>735062789>who will be making your games when it's all over?AA devs, indie devs, asian devs. Been playing Nioh 3 and Fatal Frame 2 this month so its not like I'm running out of games. Your mediocre tranny shit doesn't sell because gaming market is already oversaturated and competition is fierce. This isn't rocket science. You're trying to sell tickets baby blue pink monorails while being surrounded by exciting rollercoaster rides.
>>735062789>should we make games people likeno>lets make games for an audience that doesnt exist so we can win good points in our libtard circles>why is no one buying our product>why is chudda meditating and doing nothing while the song disco inferno playshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWqcgPmCbDQ
>>735057576>blah blah blah kike drivel kike drivel blah blah subversion blah kike drivel blah blah blah
>>735062789Hopefully nobody, videogames have no reason to exist under this artificially pushed culture.
>>735057576this little freak is like in his thirties but still has voice cracks and acts afraid whilst recording a video alone like he's scared of his own shadow. he has a tennis match with himself where every 2 days he just puts out some clickbait worthless rag about bungie that flipflops between positive and negative. it's like being inside the mind of an abused cuck which is just repulsive i don't want to experience that.
>>735057576>>735057587WHY DOESN'T MARKETING WORK ON YOU PLEBS ANYMORE!! WE ARE LOSING OUR JOBS JUST BUY OUR GAMES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>735063130No.
Everything around this seems manufactured.Nobody I know that is a confirmed human even talks about this game positively or negatively.I'm starting to think this is some kind of pity marketing tactic that isn't working.Make a dead game, market it, when that fails start dogging your own product so you can write news articles about how unfair people are being to you, it's them being unfair and not the game that's the problem of course.
>>735063152AAAIIIIIIEEE INDUSTRY TERRORIST
>>735062789guess dev teams like the ones that made arc raiders, expedition 33, nioh 3, etci dont remember those being declared high profile failures or flops like battlefield 6, shartborn, battleshart, concord, highguard, marathon and other gaylord projects that got all the backing they could absorb from their publisher companies and either crashed and burned or are in the process of turning into a mediocre crapshoot rather than a good, profitable longterm investment
>>735063059>>should we make games people likethis is the exact kind of focus testing obsessed corporate thinking that got us into this messdevs should be making games they would like to play
>>735057576>Exercise my right as a consumer in hopes that the market will correct itself and produce things that I actually want>Game journos seethe uncontrollablyWhy do these guys hate like the core tenant of capitalism so much? Am I not supposed to be happy when things I don't like fail?
>>735060289hyper focusing on political issues when the game is shit is your most obvious flaw in your brain dead argument
Seeing the American game industry suffer is great. Seeing their talentless filth developers getting fired is hilarious.Their deserved downfall is better than any game they could shit out, AND it's free entertainment.I hope they continue to suffer and end up as far away from game production as possible, raking leaves or flipping burgers. Things more fitting of their skill and creativity. And the same goes for every game journo, though to be honest I wish that all of them could be roasted alive in brass bulls.
>>735063192>arc raidersi thought this game was woke?>e33i thought this game was woke?
>>735063012r0fl
>>735063152Trump supporter!! evil!!! Nasty right winged thinker!!! You just confessed to it all!!!!
>>735063209guess what bungie's old motto used to be?guess why I'm calling it the old motto
>>735062789Plenty of indies are successful, plenty of big asian studios competing with the AAA market are doing well, hell Sandfall proved that there are still talented developers in the west with E33. I want Californian and California adjacent devs to be rooted out, nothing would make me happier than seeing modern Bungie devs on the streets forced to prostitute themselves to drug addicts in order to survive.
>>735057576>must stopAnd if we don't? What then, faggot?
>>735063276Then you get sued, yknow the thing you keep threatening people with
>>735063242>i thought That'd be the day.
>>735063168/v/ is a place to shit post. And people with actual marketing degrees or 'game journalist diplomas' come here for the scoop on what 'everyone' thinks about their game. They are a bunch of retards going to the one place that they will be triggered by retards and get pissy everytime because they can't help themselves and want to be 'cool'
>buy to play extraction shooter with cash shop and battle pass and other jewish schemesI wouldn't touch this garbage even if it was """free""" to play and I will celebrate when shit like this fails as it should.
>>735057576>some nigga wrote a whole article being a cry baby about SteamCharts and voting with your walletLMAO
>>735057576Keep seething journos, nothing will make me buy this turd.
>>735063297>im gonna sue you for not buying my game!!lmaooo
>>735057576>>735057587STOP MAKING EVERYTHING A BATTLEPASS E-SPORTS LIVE SERVICE YOU FUCKIN' CLOWNSNINTENDO DOESN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM
>>735062789>who will make the games? (in an age when indies like sts/silksong/balatro/ballpit etc are more successful than they've even been in history and lots of healthy AA like larian and owlcat)>japan exists>but watabout the AAA artists and visionaries of commiefornia? if they are all gone we have nothing!i know this is bait but it got a hearty kek from me, cheers lad
>>735063358>Lie about someone on broadcast television>"WTF YOU CAN'T SUE ME FOR SPEAKING MY MIND IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE"yeah okay
>>735063313>/v/ is a place to shit post.Stopped reading there. No.
>>735063297an unbiased opinion as a potential consumer is not grounds for defamation. it gets you laughed at if you try to discredit it and miss the mark on the entire point of criticism when BY LAW you try to lie that your game is not shit when it is when you try so hard to make the lie believable.
Who knew that spending five billion dollars making a game where ethnic tranny robots shoot each other with plastic guns was a bad idea?
>>735063404They are not potential consumers. They are either consumers or non-fans at this point and the perception that they are withholding sales from the company would only damage the consumers reputation even more.
>>735063242>arc raiders is wokesee >>735062067>expedition 33 is wokei guess, though i remember for weeks after the game came out theres been an onslaught of gooner material, same as overwatch until actiblizzard decided that making porn material is somehow not the main reason their game was sellingjust because a subsect of retards calls a game woke for having a token nigger or tranny in it (this may as well be the same shills at this point keeping an online discourse going for the sake of marketing and engagement) doesnt mean the game will fail, with those two being excellent examplesthe best part is that niether of them are milestones or some revolutionary achievements in the industry, they are just not shit video games and werent loudly proclaiming how they are intended for an audience that doesnt exist
>>735063401lol /vg/ you can discuss a game you are interested in. /v/ is only good for relevant information appearing. /v/ is also good for discussing stuff if you final finished something to avoid spoilers out the ass. it doesn't respect your time or your opinion. you think what you typed was smart? someone will sit on it and smear shit all over it.
>>735057576I'm going to start posting the faces behind these stupid fucking articles.
>>735057587>>735057576That's a lot of whining and diaper-soiling just to admit that the industry and everyone in it deserves to die. Feel free to cry about the evil chuds while you get buried alive, I guess. It won't make a difference to anyone.
>>735063437stfu if they designed games catered to the male fantasy or something cool they will hold appeal. it has never changed and will never changed. It's possible to make another Halo like universe and for it to become popular. What it requires is actual effort to design something from the ground up. All the criticism stems from AAA does what they did in their old game. Marathon gameplay looked as boring as Destiny was and everyone fell for it in the past. It was not going to be well received.
>>735063461Is there a correlation between huge fucking faggots and massive eye brows?
>>735063461Fuck me that is a nose of a nose. I'd even consider calling him an arch-jew for his senior'd nose.
>>735058931>There really isn't anything woke about Marathon.True. The only "woke" thing is the usage of the singular "they">>735060289>How much right wingers will yell about something being "woke" depends on how bad the product is.Wrong. It just means that the overwhelming majority of people really don't like woke shit. Woke elements can only negatively affect a game.Leftists like to cherry pick examples of successful media that have very small levels of wokeness and scream "see!!! our insufferable ideology is good actually!!!" despite those parts getting universal hate.>So we don't get 20 youtube channels making 15 videos each, about it ruining star wars with the wokenessBecause in Acolyte the wokeness permeates every aspect of the show. The wokeness doesn't start and stop at the lesbian space witches. It's in all the dialogue, the casting, the setting. Just about every element of that show is forced through the leftist retard lens.Again leftists will tell you that wokeness has nothing to do with a game/movies quality but they constantly fail to provide examples of good woke media (no BG3 doesn't count) or explain why the bad parts of woke garbage like Acolyte can't be attributed to some level of retarded woke influence.
>>735063461he looks like a pedophile
>>735063152WHERE IS THE MODERN AUDIENCE?! WHERE ARE YOU HIDING THEY/THEMS? I KNOW YOU MUST BE BEHIND THEIR ABSENCE SOMEHOW!
>>735063498Also Marathon was too late. Arc Raiders was cooking behind the scenes for years and it is a SUPERIOR game. Marathon has no space in the extraction scene especially when people already bought into the better alternative. There was no space for multiple types. Many boring ass extraction games have existed with large / complex maps and die off because of the population problems with the genre itself. Stupid studios making dumb choices they deserve the results they so obviously overlooked because they are dumb people
>>735063453How many years now and /vg/ still is nothing but a containment board for scaredy drones and the 30+ schizos per general in their horrible fruitless ERP captcha-based IRC chatrooms. >I demand respect!!Fucking lmao.
>>735057576>"Stop having your own opinions, copy mine instead!"
>>735063513man what until you see the nose on the guy they want to put in charge of iranI didn't think it was even possible for kike noses to get that big
>>735063567i didn't say respect you said discussion. more discussion flows through a general than what you can find in an obvious bait and seethe thread here
>>735063390>Consumer feedback and user reviews are defamation.I remember that episode.
>>735057576we must be better haters
>>735063390based
>>735063461Good idea.Take a drink everytime it's a Jew phenotype, man in drag, or danger hair
>>735063567>How many years now and /vg/ still is nothing but a containment board for scaredy drones and the 30+ schizos per general in their horrible fruitless ERP captcha-based IRC chatrooms.PoE threads at least are waiting rooms for new Leagues and schizo pajeets doomposting how the game is dead while having 10k+ hours on it.
>>735060860Nigger bots
>>735063461Maybe air shouldn't be free after all.
The fact that EA is sitting on an IPs like Command & Conquer and has no idea what to make pisses me off to no end. The fact Bungie designs games with the cash shop as the ultimate goal is a laugh. The AAA industry is so flawed I look forward to more people shifting away from the scene. >>735063461He looks like he fucks children
>>735059837Shouldn't this be "attractive to whom"?
>>735063658What game?
>>735063267frogblast the ventcore??
>>735063751Path of Exile
>>735063762No it was "we make games we want to play"
>>735057587>A lot of Marathon hate isn’t really about Marathon. It’s anti-Bungie resentment, anti-live-service resentment, and culture-war sludge wearing a fake mustache.This is incoherent. Resentment against live service games isn't about Marathon? When Marathon is a live service game? I think over budget live service games are bad for the industry so I want this one to fail so fewer will be made in the future and devs can make things that aren't predatory time sinks. Dumb faggot.
>>735061181Heres the thing: I don't have to explain you shit. We don't need your consent or approval. In fact, we prefer not to have it.
>>735063723It's called the "AAA" industry because that's the sound the developers make when they throw themselves to their deaths from the windows after getting fired with zero severance.
>>735063437>>735063498>If you bought this you're a moron>"Wtf you can't say that">HAHAHA DEAL WITH IT CHUD>HOLY SHIT STOP TAKING THINGS SO SERIOUSLY IT WAS JUST A JOKE THE DEVS DON'T CARE ABOUT U
>>735061241>desperately seeking drama is extremely effeminate behaviorJeet tier self awarness
>>735063785they should've stuck with frogblast the ventcore
>>735063771Blah. Thanks anyway.
>>735063751Path of Exile 2. Just wait until 1.0 release and you can play it for free.
Every morning I take a fat stinky shit, but I flush it down instead of posting it online like game journos do.
>>735063845you think they can sue people and you are a named faggot. Honestly I do not understand your point other than you are here to shit post like I have said. Nothing you say is constructive
>>735057576>but calling every live-service game “Concord 2” is just NPC behaviorbut there are loads of gaas games that are good and people get excited for?
>>735063584Nta but I saw a video of one who had to move his nose aside to drink a glass of water. My god the goblin nose is strong with that one
>>735057576Stop making disgustingly ugly games and you might see a difference.
>>735057576>end of servicemore like marathoff
>>735063972You don't understand my point because you don't want to, you woefully wilfully ignorant moron.
>>735064060I bet you thought you were real clever, Carlos.
>>735061528You misrepresenting our positions won't make us change them. Cry more.
>>735057576have you considered that maybe games were good in the past and that now they are bad?
>>735064131says the guy thinking that these people can sue random people. idiot
>>735057576maybe if the terrible dogshit games stop soaking up hundreds of millions of publisher funding just to crash and burn and that money could instead go to smaller teams that want to make games that aren't offensively ugly, we could have some good games sometimes
>>735064225>Broadcast your opinion on Twitter, Facebook, and whatever social media>Random because anon said soGet real! People have been sued for slipping in front of a McDonald's. Do you really think someones utility for lawsuit depends on a name and a face?
>>735061595>games becoming more global means the new audience will want woker gamesDelusional, sheltered western retard. Whites are the most liberal race, browns are way chuddier.>t. Arab
>>735061548you got fucking rektd in the replies kekthanks /v/
>>735059335there's only one ideology that consistently tries to push designs and styles onto everything that are so abhorrent and unnatural that they kill your soul just looking at themand no, I don't care if it is supposed to be sci-fi and robots, everything looks like it is meant to be an affront to human perception, it's honestly impressive how terrible it is
>>735057576>>735057587>A lot of Marathon hate isn’t really about Marathon. It’s anti-Bungie resentment, anti-live-service resentment, and culture-war sludgeYeah no shit nigger, people aren't happy that big studios are wasting time and resources on slop that nobody is interested in.>That’s not fandom, that’s arson.We're consumers, not the developers "friends" or cult or whatever you want them to be. We don't owe them anything so stop talking like this is some kind of relationship where we should just shut up and consume the product out of loyalty. Has this guys completely lost his mind?
>>735064257>Just sue all your customers, that will save our business!Brilliant idea I wonder why companies don't do it.
>>735064425Companies DO that already.
Actively selecting against things you dislike in a market economy is 1) a valid use of a market and 2) a more honest relation to a market than the pseudo-communistic "Can't we all just get along?" expressed by the OP
>>735057576>We’ve reached the point where some players are more emotionally invested in a game failing than in any game actually being good.For over a decade now these devs have told normal gamers that games are no longer for them and now they are upset if people want to see them fail It's not their fault that you keep lying to shareholders that the un-modern audience is guaranteed to hand over their money no matter what
>>735064434Name the company that sues every customer who leaves a bad review.
>>735064449>It's not their fault that you keep lying to shareholders that the un-modern audience is guaranteed to hand over their money no matter what>un-modern audience is vilified for a decade>the target modern audience remains a myth
>>735057576>some faggot has opinion no one cares old media is dead
>>735064479Let's see, Nintendo sued people for negative criticism, Blizzard did that one time, there was another incident of a recent indie dev closing down comments on Steam Discussion forums AND threatening to litigate against its own users.
>>735062230Oh no?
>>735057576Is this all from the same article? Did they just reiterate the same point 30 times? lol
>>735062242>muh schizoYou posted this more than the OP did...
>>735058260>>735058554>>735058931Shut up, Paul, I'm still not buying this garbage no matter how much you insult me and try to imply *I'm* the problem.
>>735057576Look at gas prices, we cant afford to spend money on slop, so its in our best interest to avoid slop like Marathon. Especially when new games cost as much to buy as they do. Dont blame consumers that studios splurge out unreasonable ammount of money with no returns, blame the suits that greenlit that shit over fun games.
Reminder tassi does it for freeHis payment wasn't included in the >$3.6 billion dollar purchase of bungie>$200 million dollars of development at minimum>over a $100 million dollars in marketingbudgets allocated by Snoy to bottle lightning and return to form. He really is doing for free, in the hopes he remains a trusted access journo.
>Gamers used to argue over which games were good.says more about the dismal state of the industry than anyone else
>BUY THE SLOP YOU FUCKING GOYSno :)
I didn't do anything.
>>735062789Asia. See? We like some diversity. You should be happy!
>>735061082>people actually cold this sterile and flat commercial "vibrant" and "colourful"People form marketing are completely disconnected from reality.
>>735064587Honestly a pretty likely outcome. Sony's been known to pull press support from people that are too critical of them.Though after a point I have to wonder if sucking their cock is even worth it.
>>735064682he just loves sucking cock, he's doing it for free after all
>>735057576>fucking forbes is seething about chudded out gamers not buying games or doing anything at allIs journalism a literal joke or is chuddha and chuddhism more popular than i thought?>a wojak of a buddhist monk has similar media presence as that one monk who set himself on fire
>>735058931Baldurs Gate 3 is incredibly woke. But it also showed if someone enjoys a game enough they will either look past the woke or find some “cope” on how it’s actually based and redpilled
>>735064506>Let's see, Nintendo sued people for negative criticismNope, didn't happen.>Blizzard did that one timeNope, didn't happen either.>incident of a recent indie dev closing down comments on Steam Discussion forums AND threatening to litigate against its own usersSpamming DMCA claims and threatening lawsuits is not taking anybody to the court. Give the actual court cases go ahead.
>>735064717Whats the matter, you don't trust Forbes?
>>735057576>They want studios publicly humiliated for making the wrong kind of game.Yes.
>>735064717I think the damage control is happening because they think people aren't buying the game because people online are making fun of it (and not because it has zero appeal)
>>735064776It did happen, Nintendo sued a guy for something like 7.5 million dollars because of piracy, and the only reason they pursued him is precisely because he said bad things about Nintendo.
>>73506473595% of the woke is in the 3rd act that wasn't revealed until release and they were selling the game early access for years before then with only act 1 contentit was a sort of bait and switch, they drew people in by keeping the woke almost nonexistent until the very last moment threw most of it into the parts of the game and character arcs people hadn't seen yet, after a lot of people had already bought the game and shilled it to friends.
>>735057576Yeah I don't know what's with you steam chart niggersAlways see the Marathon player count in the catalog and it's always doing just fine, not even a massive drop off like Highguard and the OP acts like it's some massive Concord tier flop.I don't even fucking care about Marathon and I don't want it shoved in my face like some kind of bizarre advertisement. Play a video game faggot
>>735064857>Nintendo sued a guy for something like 7.5 million dollars because of piracySo not for leaving a bad review but because he was monetarily benefitting from copyright theft. I accept your concession.
>>735063437>if i make something you have to buy it, no matter if you want/like it or notlmao
>>735063725Yes.
>>735064934He is a VERY CONVENTIONAL consumer of Nintendo products and MODIFIES them for money.
>>735062789Last year my most played games were all asian. Same goes for this year so far. You have been replaced.
>>735057576Any reason why jews find this to a problem now?
how much money is sony paying pajeets to defend the retards at bungie on here?
>>735063390Correct.
>>735064949Go ahead and point out in the court documents where the Nintendo lawyer and judge agree the guy left a 1 star review on a Nintendo product and should be punished for it. Either that or stop digging your hole you're already at the bottom.
>>735063657>Take a drink everytime it's a Jew phenotypeBut I don't want to be an alcoholic
>>735065130Here's one:https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-wins-lawsuit-against-pirate-who-boasted-you-might-run-a-corporation-but-i-run-the-streetsHere's another:https://www.theguardian.com/games/2024/feb/01/the-man-who-owes-nintendo-14m-gary-bowser-and-gamings-most-infamous-piracy-case
>>735064549>Marathon seether doesn't know how to countlmfao
>>735058260>It's just very inconsistent.
>>735065205>Piracy caseRetard. I asked for cases where Nintendo sues people for giving bad reviews.
>>735057576I agree.Games used to be a losers hobby and now its a normal hobby. This created a loser vacuum that needed to be filled up. Steam charters and " I dislike a game I never played"(same as those trannies/feminists from the 2010/2020's) filled that up.
>>735057576It is simple. Stop making games I don't want to play.I will shit on Marathon, Concord, Horizon, Overwatch, Monster Hunter, Persona, Dark Souls, Highguard, Slay The Spire, Deltarune, Street Fighter 6, Guilty Gear Strive, Doom The Dark Ages because these games are GAYI will cheer on Crimson Desert, Saros (because Returnal is THAT fucking good), Ultrakill, Synthetik 2, Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, 2XKO, Invincible, Avatar, Doom Eternal, Steam Charts because these games are FUNFuck live services. Help trannies with euthanasia.
>>735058260>Always blame the customersHow's that going for ya? Did it bring in more sales?
>>735065613>Steam charters and " I dislike a game I never played"
>>735065613actually I think AAA game devs and journalists filled up the losers vacuum
>>735057576Mucho texto, weird considering I didn't do anything.Still not going to buy your live service slop for cattle though
>>735065598You don't even know what you're asking anymore to be honest.You can even look at Squeenix shutting down 2chan for negative comments if you don't believe me.
>>735060614topkek
>woke dogshit with bad gameplay comes out>people don't like it>gets review bombed and laughed at>why are people so hateful of propaganda slop # 80049628684? It must be economic terrorists>game dies, people get laid off/fired and everybody moves on>three months later, rinse and repeatI'm tired of this re-run.
>>735057587what if i just want every factor that went into making Marathon to stop and not be used in future games? what about voting with your wallet?
>>735065683>You don't even know what you're asking>>735064434>Companies do that alreadyI asked proof of your dumbass claim. You failed to deliver. Name the company that sues its customers for giving bad reviews. Or shut the fuck up.
>>735065937You asked for proof of three conflicting things and when you get general errata you fled to a corner of semantics.
>>735065951>You asked for proof of three conflicting thingsNope. I asked proof of your claim that companies already sue people for giving bad reviews. You still fail to deliver because you're a tranny who can't admit you fucked up and said something retarded.
>>735065994Here I'll show you your own posts.>Name the company that sues every customer who leaves a bad review.>Let's see, Nintendo sued people for negative criticism>Nope, didn't happen.>incident of a recent indie dev closing down comments on Steam Discussion forums AND threatening to litigate against its own users>Spamming DMCA claims and threatening lawsuits is not taking anybody to the court. Give the actual court cases go ahead.You are clearly deflecting and using if-by whiskies because you're too intelligent to have an actual argument about shitposting on social media.
>>735057838People who spend all their adult lives in academic settings and pursuits don't understand how the real world works. They think if they say the right things, mark the right papers, and answer the correct answers, then everything slots into place. >>735058260Fuck off Reddit.
My hater energy is only growing more powerful. FUCK plagarists. Imagine being such npcs you can't fucking imagine things lmao.
>>735058931>>735059335>>735060289I'm so fucking tired of disingenuous redditor faggots shitting this place up with their gaslighting.
>>735066018>You are clearly deflectingNope, you made a claim Nintendo sued for that but then you cite a copyright theft case. Its like a serial killer being shot by cops on the streets and your retarded monkey tranny brain saying he was shot for jaywalking and the gun he had in his hand had nothing to do with it.
CHECK THE CHARTSNEW LOW HAS BEEN REACHED
>>735065640>see shit game>say it's a shit game>"BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S SHIT IF YOU DIDN'T EVEN PLAY IT, HUH????"according to their logic it should be>see shit game>buy shit game to confirm your suspicion>it's indeed a shit game and you wasted 60 bucks>"HAH HOW'S THAT BOYCOTT GOING, CHUDS?"
>>735057576Why is any of this a bad thing?>>Gamers used to argue over which games were good. Now a whole subculture treats watching games fail like fantasy football.So?>>“DOA” stopped being a description and became a hobby. People aren’t just predicting flops anymore, they’re rooting for them.So?>>Concord broke people’s brains. Now every new multiplayer game gets judged against a two-week corpse before it even has a chance to breathe.So? It's just a bunch of meaningless assertions
>>735066101You understand someone who buys a product is entitled to comment on it.You also understand someone who owns a product is entitled to modify it.And you thirdly understand someone who effectively sabotages their own product for a profit is not liable.But you insist that someone who said bad things about a product because they don't like the company, or even worse, because they have secular opinions about a company, are invalid because of a trend of defamation lawsuits you just found out existed five minutes ago. Like how quickly the world owes you a long list of diatribes for something you only convincingly admitted existed ten minutes ago.
>>735066117The servers are just resting for a moment, it will rebound and break through 100k on the upswing
>>735066179>reddit posting>nonsense that has nothing to do with your claim.I accept your concession tranny, heres your last (You)
>>735066232I'm sure you speak English and some other nonverbal languages.
>>735059335The robots look human, so why can't they look like appealing humans?If it's not a big deal at all, then it wouldn't be a big deal to make them attractive, right?
>>735057576go back to red dit
>>735066232It's reddit spacing newfag.
>>735066018NTA you are arguing with, but nigga you are absolutely fucking retarded.Nintendo suing a guy for piracy has literally nothing to do with defamation.Please continue though, it's hilarious
>>735066449I noticed you've never met an actual retarded person before because you're absolutely sure you wouldn't get in any modicum of trouble for your behavior.
>>735057576Marathon lost to Project Nortubel
>>735066474Have you met a retarded person bro? They know they are retarded. They call things retarded. They don't want to be condescended to
>>735057576Forbes forcing their way into the conversation like they're relevant.
>>735066497I went to a school for inclusion so yeah, I shared a lot of classrooms with children of disability.
>>735066510Might as well be reading car reviews in Bakers Monthly
>>735066513>I went to a school for inclusion so yeahSo you're retarded? Gotcha
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
>>735060289Unlike you, some people have this thing called a 'brain' and can use it to match patterns in order to make predictions.>Oh but there is 1 exception so its not a rule!!1! Good job bro! So it's merely a trend with an outlier! Great argument!!! You spend a million words attempting to deconstruct the word 'woke' tiptoeing through a minefield with an obvious foregone conclusion (woke = ugly = eww = less purchasing power) whilst constructing an alternative reality where everyone but you is wrong.>But m-muh grifters!!!I have paid a massive $0 to grifters. You're the only grifter here.
>>735066513>I went to a school for inclusion so yeah, I shared a lot of classrooms with children of disability.Is this you?
>>735066578I don't think so, but you never know.
idk as a trans person it calls to me and i like it a lot ive dropped it lately because im bad at it though but the 30 hours i played were very fun. id be back if they had a pve mode
>>735057576I simply want these hypercorporate investment groups to fail. I want CEOs committing suicide. I want management starving on the street. I want boards blacklisted from the industry.Until this happens I will continue to do nothing, and I will like it.
>>735060289>without ever proving any correlation>correlationYou tried so hard to sound smart, yet utterly failef
>>735057576>>735057587Good. And the devs producing modern audience slop have 2 options; get used to it or stop making video games and find a new hobby to subvert.
>>735066526I might be over the hill but I'm still tapped in. Guys my age have kids and are buying the games for their families now. These people are so pissed they squandered the youth demographic when they did have it. The thing is, they're fighting over ADULT themed games. Maybe marathon got a teen rating, but at the same time, the majority of these battle ground titles are for adults. People know better now.
>>735057587>people are tired of money, resources, and talent being wasted on shit nobody asked for, therefore they hope it fails to discourage game studios from continuing to make them>NOOO WHY WOULD YOU ROOT FOR A GAME TO FAIL?
Why am I not allowed to have my own opinions on things?Not every game is supposed to cater to everyoneI don't understand this fucking logic that when you like something, others must also, otherwise they're in the wrong and you must chastise, ridicule, degrade and berate them for not liking the thing.Do you think insulting the people you disagree with will get them to like you or the things you like?
>>735067002You not mindlessly spending money on their product like sheep is breaking their carefully contained comfortable bubble from the outside. How dare you show them reality you heartless monster?
>>735065306Why does the truth make you butthurt?
>>735066635If this game had a single player component it would’ve been the new Halo. Instead now nobody plays it and it’ll slowly die in about 3 months. In fact it might die with Crimson Desert coming this weekend.
>>735058260>or support woke games like Slay the Spireenlighten me
>>735057576There are probably less developers involved with StS2 total than there are members of Bungie's DEI department, that's what these people are actually mad about.
>>735057576>>735057587sounds exactly like the complains here on /v/ whenever an obvious deislop inevitably failssame arguments, verbatim, everything was it actual journos crying here or is it just the effects of lack of testosterone?either way I'm not giving any leeway to "muh culture war is cancer" postersget in line or get bent
>>735067210>>735067232>DEI/DEMhttps://vocaroo.com/16Wy2QnG27Hb
>18k and still going down
>>735066913>N4b they should be watching what their kid is doingYes, they will give their kids adult games if they want to. The old gamer dad's that work construction now know more about gaming than someone who went to school in journalism. The irony is that these people signed up to entertain people they hate.
>>735067264Sorry your funding got cut, sisterLMAO
>>735066187>88k peakHoly fucking botting
>>735066510Its beautiful jew seethe, I like it.
>>735066513I bet
>>735057576>forbes unironically shilling for concordathon 3lolwe did it, brothersit's gamergate 2 time
>>735062753This
>>735057576>>735057587
>>735067319nigga its 5am on a weekday
>>735067264>this r/gcj posts this in every thread about woke slopMind broken
>>735067409Except this time they are far weaker and they know it. Hence the hysteria.
>>735059232That only happens when you argue with a leftist.
Because its uninspired GAAS rehash slopThese corpos need to innovate and release a new banger instead of just repackaging games you've played before
>>735057576>Journos are still trying to claim gamers are the reason why these games fail>And not the devs churning out garbage nobody wantsThey will never gain self-awareness, will they?
>>735067440nou, sorry, but i'm so autistic that i find the capital dei acronym to sound too much wiggerish for my taste and too much of a cattle speak that got stimulated tnx to the handful of billionaires in this kleptocracy we call AmeriKKKa ;)
>>735067556Can someone translate this from Reddit tankie?
>>735067432not where i live
this game got not even 1/15th the shit Baldur's Gate 3 got.I'm convinced anyone claiming a hate campaign is just trying to find ways to make their Sony Master show them mercy. >bloo bloo, "please don't blame me! I'm talented! It's those gosh awful gamers we are selling too!"
>>735058931balgur's gay 3 is an incredibly woke and incredobly shit game, as is flopathon, kill yourself
>>735057587>culture-war sludgelmao
When a group has the power to destroy you by literally doing nothing, you might want to reconsider your approach how to design your game.
>>735057576I just killed another game with my freaking mind!
>>735059335>9 replies>Not a single one explains why Marathon is wokeTruly incredible.
>>735067653aka "not slurping down my propagana"
I'm having a blast hating on marathon. And having a blast doing what is fun is all that matters.
>>735059335>Literally what is woke about Marathon???everything. especially snoy.
>>735067539Umm, chud? You're supposed to like it. Not liking it makes you a nazi incel!!
>>735067696It's just the Marathon team making excuses for their failures. They would love to write off this failure as DEI slop because that grants them mercy for any future jobs. But if this is just a shitty game? Well they are fucked to ever find work again because who wants to hire the staff that made the most expensive commercial failure of 2026?
>>735059413TOTAL "GAMEDEV"TRANNY DEATH
>>735067264Based
>>735057576why do they care so much?
I am not obligated to spend money or time playing games I do not want to play, from developers I dislike. Wither on the vine faggot.
>>735060502>lost individualskike faggot pilpulling nigger, die
>>735060582>how does he do it?by not doing itOHMMMMMMMMMMM
>>735067764Marathon is a good game, but it's too niche for its budget and Sony's purposes with it.
>>735060658>due to their Destiny releases.you mean de-releases, since all they fucking do is sunset content for literally no reason other to fleece their playerbase for the new shitty sloptent that they shit out
>>735057576>>735057587Glad to know it's working.
>>735067696See>>735063796
>>735057576>>735057587>NOOOOOOOO chuds stop shitting on our ugly looking, poorly designed live service game>this is economic terrorismNo.
>>735058931>baldur's gay 3>good gamei am laffin
>>735067556>struggle to explain DEIhe doesn't explain it at all, only tells the interviewer to refer to the EO or ESO or whatever, he's deliberately avoiding to give the DEI people ammunitiondon't bother explaining definitions to agenda driven people, they'll only use it against you and change the definition on the fly to suit their needs
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfcCg-6UFmo
>>735063461He looks like a nuconservative influencer
>>735060289>You find something that's shit, AND woke, you point at the woke, and you say: "aha! Of course it's shit, it's woke!" without ever proving any correlation.yes goy it's just a (((coincidence)))
>>735062543So the solution is to support the corporations and their faggot devs?
>>735068150Its funny how DEI simultaneously doesnt exist but you are a bad person for opposing it.
>>735066080brooo being a modern conservative right winger is synonymous with gaslightingyou can call redditors annoying moral fags, but at least they have consistent principles (well, most of them) and aren't opportunistic scum griftersit's a death cult, and people have a hard to swallow truth pill, unless you're one of those batshit insane accelerationists - which, fuck me then
>>735062789>who will be making your games when it's all over?AI
>>735061528>All just correlationHow are you so sure of that, also, 90% of woke games are trash, even if being trash and being woke had nothing to do with each other which they do, the people pushing this agenda are often bad at their job, anyone with pattern recognition skills will think it's probably not a good idea to buy a woke gay.
paul tassi stop reading along>they think they are helping the game by saturating the servers
>>735068173LMAOOOOOOOOOO
I like how everyone in this thread confuses "correlation" with "causation" and then acts very smugly about it.
>>735057576>entire internet is addicted to shitting on mediaMike's fault.
>>735061528correct, final fag 7 has always in fact woke and shit, thanks for FINALLY noticing, faggot
>>735068173This is an AAA GaaS in 2026
WON'T SOMEONE PLEEEEEASE THINK OF THE LIVE SERVICE GAMES
I shit on live service sloppa and laugh if it failsIf it doesn't fail, I simply go laugh at the next oneMeanwhile I continue playing through my library of hundreds of SP titles
>>735062789>who will be making your games when it's all over?Japanese men, white men, and the few decent black and latino men with talent>when you've chased all the artists and visionaries out of the hobbylollmaoI hope they fuck off
>>735061847>t. niggerniggerguardians, assemble!
OH, SAY CAN YOU SEE
>>735068803Is 15k possible this week
>>735057576this is just characteristic of the era of the internet we are ineverything either has to be a massive success or an utter failure, there's no room for mediocrity anymorethe same goes for businesses, every company wants a cash printing live service game to the point where they're willing to risk millions of dollars to generate billionsplayers are also more attached to their existing live services more than ever before. a new game becoming popular means taking time away from a game you've already invested thousands of hours into, built friend groups around, and invested hundreds of dollars on cosmeticsthere is a very real cost to switching games, and i don't think players really want a reason to despite what they say. they also just hate how big companies have gotten, and have a negative relation with many of the companies building new games
>>735062789>who will be making your games when it's all overindependent actual developers, and the japanese, same people who have been making our games for the past 40 years
>>735068906It's just unadulterated dopamine chasing at this point - we are fucked in the head for so long from chasing the highs, thanks to the more advanced Internet/Social Media and especially todays gaming landscapeIf we cannot tolerate mediocrity and only want the highs, that mindset will destroy the planet, and I'm only half jokingIt's fucking insane, and I'm all for strict regulation desudesu
>>735068830Check on Thursday
>>735067581Here's the translation you all so needed fren
>>735058260>The irony is that a lot of these third world chuds play gacha games, or support woke games like Slay the Spire. It's just very inconsistent.Maybe it's you who is too focused on labels and subcultures and the problem lies elsewhere?
>>735069174>you all so needed
All this recent discussion can be summed up as follows:>Consumer opinions are influencing marketing campaigns, and this is unacceptable
>>735069238More like>the consumers have a tool to actually gauge the success of a video game instead of having to take our word for it, this is unacceptable
>>735069174Can someone translate this from Reddit tankie?
>>735069238*influencing the results ofIn the end, it all boils down to this. Opinions have become very influential because there are so many ways for ordinary people to communicate. What the industry wants is a reality where people buy blindly, like in the past, and have to rely on shills and marketing campaigns. It's that simple.This shit isn't working in the gaming industry; people are (correctly) identifying poor features in games before they're released, and a significant portion of consumers are no longer interested in them, even when 50+ million is allocated solely to marketing.
>>735069283Can someone shoot this eluding faggot?
>>735069323>eluding
>>735069323You lost and got raped
>>735069283it says orange man bad
>>735069389But what does "orange man bad" have to do with Marathon flopping?
>>735062789>who will be making your games when it's all over?Bear in mind that the studios actually closing and devs being laid off comes solely from ONE PLACE. The rest of the world has no problem releasing decent-to-good games.US has a tumor called DEI or whatever new acronyms they came up with trying to escape the public eye.
>>735069323>>735069345>>735069372>>735069389>Duuuuuur
>>735069445something something chuds
>>735069476Good luck on the next kvetching thread, xister
>>735069517i hate these fucking people
>>735069536Yeah obsessed chuds are pretty annoying
>>735059957Shut up with the "if you kill the murderers, you're a murder too" kind of argument. Hating a game and wanting it to fail for having attractive women is objectively bad, while wanting a shit live service game in an already oversaturated market to fail is neutral at worst.
>>735069517Are the trannies still rent free roaming in your small pea hateful head?
>>735069559I wasn't the one who groomed you into cutting off your dick, but I can sure laugh at you for it
>>735062225This quality of AI is so last year.
My favorite streamer just called it Marabomb and I'm still gobsmacked a half hour later. I always thought he was a nice wholesome guy and wasn't into all this chudhog shit. I keep trying to go back to watching and just ignore it but I can't stop thinking about it, it kind of changed my opinion of him completely.
>>735069278Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, but I messed it up because I'm retard.
>>735061112I don't get why anyone would voluntarily look like this. Sometimes you're just ugly and there's nothing you can do about it. But you might as well grow out a beard, shave your whole head or put a fucking wig on, and you don't need to wear glasses all the time. My vision sucks but it's only necessary to wear glasses when I'm driving or looking at the TV from afar.
>>735061493>women and non-binary developersI like how they just grouped up the dead-weight together. This is fake, right?
>>735069805He probably wants to look like the happy merchant caricature I dunno kek.it helps he's actually jewish.
>>735060658>They're a skeleton of a company lacking the old guard that made them who they are
All you chuds had to do was shut up, sit down and let marginalized BIPOC developers of color speak dey trufs, but you couldn't even do that. Why?
>>735063268the only thing woke33 proved is that with enough astroturfing viral marketing shilling (and 300m of budget from netease) and pedophile coombait that they can trick you nigger retard slopeaters
>>735070060kys brony schizo
>>735063390freedom of speech is absolute, otherwise the entire zogostani government is illegitimate and false
>>735070106You say that but people still go to jail for yelling bomb on an airplane.
>>735070004Aren't most of those devs more on the art or programming side rather than the game development, writing, or other sides? It was my understanding the major people behind the original Halo games left.
>>735070020Trying so hard to extract few of these obscene cherry picked images, save it on your laptop, and thinking this represents the left as a whole Terminally online goblin lmao, enjoy your death cult
>>735070164Is your bot broken or what? That's the director of Marathon.
>>735058931>There really isn't anything woke about Marathon. Not directly imo, but the writing has the same pretentious tinge that many more openly woke titles have and Bungie have been screaming from the rafters (their twitter, blog) about how woke and culturally sensitive they are since Halo Reach finished. Destiny tried to paint a larger than life narrative, trying to appear epic and worthy of awe. They were also a tough sell since it came out of nowhere and felt kinda shallow and forced. Characters posturing and trying to seem important or more experienced is a baseline woke trait, since the player is always being lectured to. These are easily misconstrued even when a vidya dude is just talking about vidya stuff, especially when the studio is saying it wants to push for the same social awareness that say the devs behind Dustborne or Saints Row did. It doesn't help that the robots look like black men or standoffish punk women, the most common cast in woke games. No, the black guy robots don't look more like Batou. It's basically subtle woke signaling in structure and tone, trying to wink to the usual online crowd that they are in the clique while not overstepping and fully committing, so they can remain commercially viable. Problem is that those "winks" are easy to feel for anyone who has followed western video game culture the last 15 years. The production and developer identity aren't separate from the package the players feel that they are buying into. Players can feel the product doing it's dog whistling, even though it might be vague enough to make it harder to articulate how.1/2
>>735069640>Are the trannies stillyes>.00001% of pop>101% of noiseexplain
>>735070164Did your handlers on discord forget to tell to save the full image and not just the thumbnail?
>>735070254The woke crowd shat the bed by being too annoying, divisive and grating. If they make non-woke titles chuds will still avoid them out of caution. Now this was in response to why Marathon feels woke - I believe it has larger problems and the reason it's not taking off is more about the structure and a failure of vision. Everyone knows it changed massively during development and is trying to justify Bungies acquisition cost more than fulfilling some designers passion. Bungie are trying to force themselves into an already saturated subgenre without a tangible USP besides the gaudy visuals. The controversy doesn't help. It's shit sandwich packaging. Stuff like Slay the spire gets a pass since it's a simple and easily enjoyable game.2/2
>>735070217Break your neck for me, and then ask the same question again if you can
>>735066513you didn't have to announce that you're a retarded faggot jew, we could already tell
>>735070254>>Not directly imo, but the writing has the same pretentious tinge that many more openly woke>i saw the new scary movie trailer only todaynot even the anti-woke comedy is funnyit's literally twitter 2021
>>735069745your life is incredibly hardi don't know how you deal with it
>>735067432it's primetime in china right nowchina is by far the largest and most profitable gaming market in the world today, bigger than the rest of the world combined by at least 2x, if not more like 5x
>>735068380>you can call redditors annoying moral fags, but at least they have consistent principleslmao. You gotta be shitting me
>>735070295>Break your neckThat's more your bag.
>>735057576This reminds me of when stellarblade released, there was a 3 or 4 stage attempt to disrupt the release and help the game bomb.1st they ran an anti stellarblade campaign for months in the games media and on social media where they called you everything under the sun, all sorts of buzzwords, they basically threw everything and the kitchen sink at it.2nd they basically found something ingame to bitch about and call the devs racists who somehow knew that "hard-r" on a wall ingame meant the hard R in a racial slur against the blacks.3rd they ran an astroturfed campaign to complain about the censorship in the game and sony themselves ran a quick refund program so as many people as possible refund the game because of censorship, despite the game having tons of even more costumes which were more erotic than the censored ones.4th there was this either AI bot or organized spam campaign which lasted around a year, focused on copy pasting this random guy's face in the same frame as the main character of the game in an obvious effort to make the people who would be interested in playing the game look pathetic.So i guess that if the games media and whoever ran this anti stellarblade campaign were able to pull that off and try to make a game bomb on its release day, that means everybody else doing the same thing for any future game is also A-OK. Congrats, you live in the cyberpunk dystopia, except it's also gay and retarded.
>>735068505there's no confusion, correlation IS causation and only kikes like you try to pilpul that it isn't, because the goyim noticing your dirty kike tricks is bad for you
>>735069640>toxotransmoment webms>tranny kike takesname a more pozzed duo
>>735070128name a single one.
>>735070504don't have to, it's already illegal
>>735063390>Lie about someone on broadcast televisionWhat does that have to do with making fun of your game flopping?
>>735070560Imagine how all the people who bought the game feel when their only claim to virtue is being a "moron" for purchasing it.
>>735070580$40 lighter and several IQ points lower?
>>735070524there hasn't been a single case, so you just lied, as per the usual with kikes like you
>>735070598You are literally attacking people for purchasing a product you don't like at that point.So yes, you would be low IQ to do that.
>>735070623>You are literally attacking peopleMe? I did nothing.
>>735070623Very Israel coded defence you're running here
>>735070623Ok, what if the product is cigarettes? Better to just pump up their ego and tell them what a great job consooming they are doing?
>>735070747It's actually French, and it's called Laissez-faire. There shouldn't be any interference in the free market. If the product is good, than people will buy it. If it is not good, then people won't buy it. Using social media, empowered or not, is on principle alone, a very scummy way to undermine a business.
>>735070792Opinions on a product is not inference in the free market.
>>735070872Yes they are. Especially when you go on live television and say they suck.
>>735070881>social media>"live television"Shit son, sounds like you have brain worms.
>>735070881So consumers should be forced to just go into every purchase blind, or only trusting paid and sanctioned reviews from the product maker?I really hope you die in an embarrassing accident in the near future you corpo bootlicker
>>735070970Everyone uses their phones for everything nowadays, the only way people know if something terrible is happening is if they get wind of it on X or Facebook or Youtube.It's completely reasonable to think that a social media campaign to dethrone a product by word of mouth is just as financially threatening as any government intervention, shit they might even be one and the same thing.
>>735070992You're just mad because you can't tell the difference between conglomeration and corporatism.
>>735070792My free speech is more important than your capital exposure
>>735071080shill
>>735071108You said that already when you attempted to gamble it on a couple bad words for a video game.
I don't hate Marathon I just don't care. What I really hate is nu-Bungie and I wish them nothing but bad.
>>735071124???
>>735071151What, did I say too many big words this time?
>>735062242Based Patrick making trannies kill themselves faster
>>735062242>>735064549KEK
>>735071080you are severely mentally ill namefag imbecile, just how the fuck do you think the perfect information in free market works you retarded imbecile?protip, the free market requires people to have free and detailed information, and that information comes from customers, and would he customers. In other words garbage like this flopping is not a bug, its literally the market correcting itself, it makes it very clear that the demand for something is 0 or lower which causes a correction. You can bet even the stupidest suit has heard of concord, and this, and highguard, and so on, and they are thinking "fuck, fairgame$ isn't looking so hot now"
>>735070992>So consumers should be forced to just go into every purchase blind, or only trusting paid and sanctioned reviews from the product maker?That's the intended way the system should function, yes. The sucker "consooom" cattle get wowed by bullshots and carefully crafted marketing campaigns, the game is either shit or undercooked or underdeveloped, but that doesn't matter because 2 hours already passed and you now can't refund the game.But now the consoom cattle are using social media to say that the product is bad and the marketers and big publishers can't bamboozle them anymore because trust has been lost over the last decade+ due to bad product after bad product after bad product. Now they told their presstitutes to fellate their product out in the open and bitch about consumers getting wise to their tactics of exploitation. Make sure you don't fall for the paid social media campaigns too.
>>735071243based chuddas
>>735071230So your argument is something, something "an informed populace is the greatest ally to an economic good," but you also purport that lying and slander over a product is just as intellectually valuable as "an informed populace."
ITT: Sancho Panzo Sadists jerking themselves off into oblivion
>>735061181Hmm
>>735061181Yea no trannies DEI at all at bungie
>>735071373I'll never understand the obsession with themI just never found it funny to make fun of them nor obsess to the point where that's almost 90% of your personalityDisgust at some point? Yes - otherwise pure ignore. Racist jokes will always be timeless thoughbeited
But I did nothing
>>735070429Yeah it's your typical hypocrite leftist. Try to trash so many games to try and put companies under, indie devs under for the sake of sucking nigger, gay, tranny cock. But once gamers decided to do it against their products, it's consumer terrorism
>>735071280>but you also purport that lying and slander over a product is just as intellectually valuable as "an informed populace."They had a free open beta to play test the game. The consumer downloaded it and played it, and a lot found the product insufficient for their continued interest. The online chuddies are only attracting more attention to the game, doing free advertising. The game isn't getting new players. To suggest that because some people online are at fault for the game bombing it asinine. They said the same thing about BG3, and the game sold well. They said the same thing about ArcRaiders, the game sold well.It's time to end this, really.
>>735058931BG3 is woke, but every gay retard just spams "hurr durr you are that bear sex guy" in response.
>>735071468>Why are you pointing out the specific root cause for video games being shit, ugly, tranny filled, nigger filled garbage>Try to gaslight people into think no u the baddie or obsessedWtf I love nigger tranny games now???
>>735071605So that means 36 hours of doomscrolling on X.com to find one positive review of Marathon is "strong economic freedom?"
>>735071627You'll grow up one day and realise how many errors you had in your head... one day (fingers crossed)
>>735071694Well I can only hope you kill yourself soon, along with your tranny devs. I'll continue to push for your games to die so you can be jobless. No one likes you, no one wants to be near you. Your gapping flesh wound looks exactly like the games you produce.
