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It's pretty refreshing to have a spiritual succesor both have its own identity instead of retreading every good idea from the originial, and improve on some flaws

Esoteric Ebb really does a lot to fix the political criticisms of Disco by giving every possible ideology perspective and actual voice instead of memeing its way into "Everything is ass except one which is less ass"

Esoterric Ebb shill thread, its pretty good
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Anyone got that Sageleaf picture? I have to animate it and add sound.
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>>735060779
How bad is it that people dont even play dnd games, but theyll play tranny political debate simulators dressed as a dnd game
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What a fucking waste to do a d&d setting instead of something new or unique.
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>>735060779
does it have actual gameplay? that's the only reason i haven't played DE yet even though i'm interested in it
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>>735061090
It has more combat dice rolls and adventuring than DE. Also you can use spells outside of dialogues to have a proper adventuring experience.
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>>735060779
Can you remove the goblin?
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>>735060779
>fix the political criticisms of Disco by giving every possible ideology perspective and actual voice instead of memeing its way into "Everything is ass except one which is less ass"
t. da wokies r nice 2 me in dis gayme
nobody cries harder than a rightoid
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>>735060779
>"Everything is ass except one which is less ass"
Which political ideology was presented as less ass in DE?
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political fantasy is too boring for me, it only works if you let me kill people like mgs and fallout
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>>735060779
>its pretty good
It's painfully average. What is so good about it?
It's also political game at its core, whereas DE is a detective game, and the political perspectives that your attributes spew are so on the nose and boring

>every possible ideology perspective and actual voice
The only legitimate ideologies presented are nationalism and communism with communism obviously presented as the "good" one
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>>735061717
Communism is literally magic in DE powered by delusion
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>presents every ideology as less ass
>do entire run as facist that agrees with my god
>get to god
>"umm actually I was WRONG and genocide is LE BAD :)"
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>>735064925
He did say if he has another chance he'd still commit the genocides again though.
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Any other upcoming DE-likes?
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>>735064962
>i'd do it again, but YOU can't do it to bring me back to life because it's le bad! Cut to black!!!
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>yes i'd genocide again to keep humans alive, I don't give a fuck about anyone that isn't a human or dwarf
>NO YOU CAN'T GENOCIDE THE ELVES, GOBLINS, AND DEMONS!!! NOOOOO!
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I'm a one boy apple genocide
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>>735060779
you are lying
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least subtle shill thread
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Is there a way to fuck the mushroom elf?
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>>735065376
Unfortunately no, Ragn has a type.
Fortunately however you can just pretend you can.
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>>735065376
Every woman in the game you want to fuck won't fuck you because they're not fat and ugly, every woman interested in you your character isn't interested in.
Retarded game
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>>735065567
no country for chud men
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>>735060779
>"Everything is ass except one which is less ass"
This is accurate though.
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>>735065376
Are you a tree in all aspects, even physical?
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>>735064856
Wrong.

The one which is less ass is moralism.
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I actually thought it copied Disco Elysium way too much. The skills having their own personalities, the constant dice rolls, the UI, the emphasis on political ideologies (and they, too, are represented by the skills) as well as an amnesiac protagonist and even the opening were all just too close to Disco Elysium, I couldn't help but compare it to that game (oh this is similar, this is a bit different) constantly and it ended up being distracting
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>>735065885
It is very purposefully like Disco though. It is meant to be a mix of Disco and the creators personal D&D setting.
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Does anyone have the Cleric's character sheet to post?
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>>735061374
REMOVE KEGOB remove kegob
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>>735065752
I've got a woody, that should count.
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>>735061717
Azgalism, kinda, but its more like they don't have anyone outright evil in their ranks, just kind annoying, Nationalist leadership are selling out the city while Freestriders are doing a lot of really shifty stuff, working with Angel Israel included
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>>735066221
Why does he have a jewish nose?
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>>735060779
DEAD GAME
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>>735066406
>4k peak
Hey, that's pretty good
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>>735066406
NGL I pirated the game since money is tight lately. I enjoyed it though, will probably buy if I can make sure I have money to spare if I can still put bread on the table with the current oil situation.
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>>735065189
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING
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>a game isn't on switch
>every thread of this game has self-employed jannies like this >>735066406
kinda too on the nose, this one
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>>735066492
I played it on the go on my steam deck. Niche releases like this is why I'm glad I didn't go the tendie route.
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>>735066406
those are actually tremendous numbers, especially since it was made by one guy and whatever contractors he hired. THESE are actual DE-clone flops that were developed by proper teams and rue valley even published by owlcat.
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>>735066406
>>735066554
Jesus Christ.
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>>735064976
There's an upcoming game by whatever is left of ZAUM - ZERO PARADES: For Dead Spies
There's a demo on steam
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>>735066554
DE itself had around 4k peak until it got the final cut patch
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>>735064976
Travelling At Night by the Sunless Sea/Sky dev
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>>735066857
another one l0l
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>>735066915
At this point “isometric amnesiac with inner monologue” is just a genre tag. We had a million boomer shooters after Doom and nobody cried about it this hard.

Half of these are just chasing the DE vibe because it turns out people actually like reading in their RPGs. Shocking, I know. If even 1 out of 5 of these clonelets sticks the landing we all win. Worst case scenario you ignore it and replay Revachol for the 9th time.
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>>735066857
>>735066798
Looks wokecore. I like EE because it's chudcoded.
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>>735064976
there's also clam man 2 if it ever releases. demo is out.
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>>735066951
>Half of these are just chasing the DE vibe because it turns out people actually like reading in their RPGs. Shocking, I know. If even 1 out of 5 of these clonelets sticks the landing we all win. Worst case scenario you ignore it and replay Revachol for the 9th time.
more because they don't need to think about designing the combat system or balancing the game.
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>>735060779
>It's pretty refreshing to have a spiritual succesor both have its own identity instead of retreading every good idea from the originial, and improve on some flaws
Sounds like Project Nortubel
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>>735066953
EE also looks woke until you play it for some hours and get used to it
designs were the biggest thing filtering me during demo
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I savescummed too much. There should be a "live with your own failures" ironman game mode.
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>>735066951
Not gonna lie, I even started formulating in my head my own DE-like game. Writing is the crucial part of these games. Once you have that, actual game doesn't seem too hard to make

>>735066953
I said that there's a demo, not that it's actually good. I found it to be bland and boring
It also copies DE art style which seems off, given that game is set in entirely different universe
Oh and you play as a female Comintern spy
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>>735067449
>Oh and you play as a female Comintern spy
she hot?
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>>735066951
We have yet to see all the former ZA/UM team members' projects revealed.
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>>735067587
Looks like a tranny, possibly lesbian even.
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>>735067616
the most pretentious stat names yet
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>>735067831
EE did it right by reducing the number of schizo voices to only 6. I'd rather our stats have more depth than spreading to a trillion different voices.
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>>735067831
It's aggressively pretentious
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Why does this game allowed you to larp as soo many different classes, but at the same time not have an option to do it for necromancer class? Undead discrimination!
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uh oh
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>>735067616
There's a case file about the MC that you can read at the beginning of the game where you are deemed "possible homosexual" and then you can either confirm it or deny
Don't know if this has any gameplay ramifications

>>735067906
EE was right in reducing the number, but they are all still pretty one-note. It would have been fun to combine the two, so that intelligence is not always associated with being a megalomaniac, and so on.
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>>735068347
>they are all still pretty one-note
kinda fits the game thematic
not a single stat is perfectly right about everything so, to get the full picture, we let them fight and discuss
the democracy of stats
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>>735061027
>How bad is it that people dont even play dnd games
Not bad at all, great in fact. There's nothing good about Trannies&Faggots
>but theyll play tranny political debate simulators
This is the sad part
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What's your favorite joke?
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>>735069964
Potion seller
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>>735069964
this is me when people used to explain thac0 back in the day
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>>735060779
It does not really have its own identity, I dropped it with how shamelessly it was aping Disco while not having the writing chops to do the same.
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>>735070126
>not having the writing chops
DE didn't have them either
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>>735070056
I died lifting this fucking rock
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Ettir love.
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>>735070098
>thac0
I still can't believe that was a thing
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>read mural at the undercity
>just die

????????????
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>>735061027
Modern D&D game is JUST fagottry and political shit. The problem is actual lack of immersion. Orcs can't be rapist or use slurs, but they are allowed to murder white merchants
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>>735061027
People absolutely play dnd games, what are you on? The game is the most popular it has been in its existance
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>>735061374
Snell is only needed for the fire corridor, the secret room going down to the undercoast, and the ending

You can do the majority of the game without him
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>>735061717
If you've played the game and looked at the story they wrote prior, it's clear they are massive commie simps despite acknowledging it also is a failed system. It's still seen as shit but with a wistful "ohhhh but the potential though" for communism.
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>>735071104
Those aren't people
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>>735066951
>Half of these are just chasing the DE vibe because it turns out people only play CRPGs for the roleplaying and not the autistic spreadsheet simulation crap
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>>735066798
Zero Parades sounds cool in concept of playing a burnt out spy on one last mission, but in practice it's trying way too hard to be like
>H-Hey guys remember Disco! We made Disco! Remember it!?
It's like how Outer Worlds kept marking itself as "hey we're the new vegas people!" even though most of those people were gone by that point.
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>>735066949
I knew having a women kick me in the balls was the most masculine fetish
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>>735067610
The summer eternal manifesto is certainly something
>All art is communication — dialogue across time, space and thought. In its rawest, it is one mind’s ability to provoke emotion in another. Large language models — simulacra, cold comfort, real-doll pocket-pussy, cyberspace freezer of an abandoned IM-chat — which are today passed off for “artificial intelligence”, will never be able to offer a dialogue with the vision of another human being.

>Machine-generated works will never satisfy or substitute the human desire for art, as our desire for art is in its core a desire for communication with another, with a talent who speaks to us across worlds and ages to remind us of our all-encompassing human universality. There is no one to connect to in a large language model. The phone line is open but there’s no one on the other side.
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Can I get pussy in Ebb though? Or have companions?
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>>735071489
you only get the promise of pussy

you get 2 party members
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Do you get rerrolls on stealing after rest in this game? Should i just savescum my way into getting everything successfully? It's my second playthrough so i guess it would be fair thing to do.
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>>735071539
>2
Do not disrespect Meek
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Ragn had a hard life...
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>>735064925
>>735065000
>tired old man wants to retire for good
Brother he literally genocided for you for centuries why can't you let Grandfather Urth rest?
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>>735065885
>Amnesiac protagonist
You only forget the immediate moment of your assassination though, everything else is still there in you. If anything, you should probably think that having the buddy cop dynamic between a schizophrenic high-functioning fool and a competent member of an ethnic minority would be a lot more on the nose than some minor story telling and gameplay conventions
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>>735071329
Most high IQ human beans play the spreadsheet games like Pathfinder for the spreadsheet gaming though
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>>735073238
I actually really like how these are all canon and just go through the general case of
>Wow, this nigger's life SUCKS lmfao
>your dad is dead, your mom's a hoe, you got no bitches, no friends, no money, and kids hate you for liking apples and being better than them at magic
If Ragn's mother wasn't an absentee parent Ragn could have been a Wizard God-King by the time of the story's opening
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>>735065885
I think I like how Ebb handled politics better overall. In Disco it was really all just Harry's pitiful attempts to cope with his own failures, so they're presented as cartoonish and self-deprecating. In Ebb the ideologies are presented more earnestly because Ragn can actually genuinely believe in them, and while he has his hangups it's not just projection.
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>>735073238
>But the gods did not answer. So you learned to manage, as always
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>>735073614
It's not like they have Telegram in the Beyond.
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>>735073614
Urth heard and Urth answered anon, it is through belief in Urth that we fulfill our prayers yeah it's really fucking sad but Urth being a silent God is Nietzschean in a way
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>>735069964
Big... orc.
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>>735073378
>You only forget the immediate moment of your assassination though
Ragn didn't forget anything, the bitch snuck up behind him and threw him into the river he didn't know anything to forget.
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>>735066554
holy shit I had no idea those got such bad numbers
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>>735073951
He was still confused on the immediate events of investigating the tea house and him actually getting pushed right? He just concludes it's an assassination because he can't genuinely be that clumsy but if he remembered being pushed he would have known I think
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>>735069964
>"Look, Snell." (Giggle.) "It's a bike for you."
and Snurre's succubus joke
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>>735071462
Summer Eternal and Red Info are the only ones who haven't shown shit yet.
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>>735074132
Ebb got good marketing for a bit and actually had a fun demo, unlike some of the others. Syndicate was well reviewed in the demo though, I would have expected it to do better but literally no one talked about it on here so I had no clue it released
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>>735074219
>Good marketing
I've never heard about the game until I saw it on pirate sites.
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>>735074132
>>735074219
Neither of those two got much attention on RPG Codex compared to EE.
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>>735067948
>>735067616
I had a feeling this game would end up being like this, the style is interesting enough for a spy thriller but I figured the writing and the directing would be a lot of steps behind Disco, seeing as how anyone with talent got removed except for the artists
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>>735074323
>RPG Codex
Literally who
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>>735074267
The 1 minute animated trailer has more soul than anything produced for Zero Parades though, but maybe I just got lucky
>>735074323
Maybe helps the author was a frequent poster
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>>735074219
I didn't like EE's demo. Commie dwarves quest gave me impression that the whole game is like this.
The release version let me check the dungeons first and it was much more fun.
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>>735071329
That's the truth. TTRPGs are a doomed design to adapt to computers because because any random chance in vidya can be F5/F9'd and trying to remove it usually leads to even worse things which are F5/F9'd even more frequently. Most "CRPGs" could be improved by making them actually computer-oriented, which ends up in either "immersive simulation" or pivoting to "adventure" designs. If DE was a true point-n-click instead of items just influencing your rolls, nothing would've been lost (no one said "ohhhh i wanna roll a fail at dancing and call kim a nigger monkey oooohhh"), which is lost on people trying to succeed it.
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>>735074753
I don't know. DE and games like it are interesting in that success can actually lead you to different outcomes rather than combat or reloading. Failing your rolls in DE was half the fun.
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>>735074836
Failing rolls for different outcomes is fun but both DE and EB have the same problem where you just drop dead and have to save scum to not get retarded game overs just because someone insulted you which is fucking retarded
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>It's okay, Snell is one of the good ones.
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>>735069964
Telling the orc woman "I love you" the same day you met her then quadrupling down
Asking Snell to sleep with you. Also sending him away so you can throw yourself down a well.
Most of the failed hypno spells being a variance of "please don't do that again"
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>>735075713
>"Alright Snell, you can go"
>"You're going to bed, right? You're not going to do anything dumb by yourself?"
>"N-no?"
>Proceed to throw myself down the well as soon as he's not looking anymore
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>>735076240
For me it's fighting the elf warden for his sneakers
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>>735060779
Any progress this game made towards fixing political satire was nullified by giving you an out through magocracy. Sometimes it corners you in the Nationalist/Freestrider/Azgal/Retard options and it's great. The Charisma option is also good because it pokes fun at agreeable swing voters, but the "I'm voting for myself xd" path ruins most of this because it allows you to disengage in a quirky and elegant way that dignifies your "apoliticalism"
Also is it me or is this game too easy? I get that the random bullshit deaths in Disco got annoying but I'm right between day 2 and 3 and I already pieced together the dentist's mystery despite making Wisdom my dump stat, granted I'm still in the midgame and things could ramp up but with the Patriarchy feat+Bless I'm fucking cruising even without changing outfits/accss
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>>735076629
I was disappointed that Urth doesn't have a special comment if you're wearing elven boots
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>>735076629
>mfw I casted Grease on him first turn
>try and fail to grapple him afterwards (this was a very poor approach in hindsight)
>get blasted with elf disintegration magic (I tanked that)
>try to grapple and fail again
>get death rayed again, got the death save
>he wonders how the fuck am I not dead yet
>go for one last grapple and fail
>everyone just tumbles down and his greased body slides down the road
>finally land a succesful roll, grabbing onto his sneakers as he literally slides off of them before teleporting away
Without a doubt the most retarded but funny encounter I had
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>>735077217
Latest patch said he already addressed that.
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>>735077227
So I'm not the one who thought it would be funny to Grease the slimy bastard.
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>>735060779
>It's pretty refreshing to have a spiritual succesor both have its own identity instead of retreading every good idea from the originial, and improve on some flaws

I would probably agree more if the UI and attribute paintings had a more unique identity.
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>>735077162
The final boss is literally just a str 20 test that you can lower by passing int/wis/cha 16 checks to drop by 2 each time so it becomes str 14.
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>>735074753
The feel the problems with CRPGs (at least with Baldur's Gate 1) is that they tend to rely too much on combat and not enough on roleplaying.
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>>735077351
You can't really hurt him (this is a D&D world with healing spells and ressurects) and you can never catch him but you can fuck up his fancy clothes by splashing oil all over him

I love how he gets so mad when you grease him a second time, more so than any real attack you can perform
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>>735071104
The og game is dead , all people play now is lgbtq drama simulator .The game even more toxic and everyone homebrew their on shitty version.
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Does the elven ambassador appear on election day if you don't assault him?
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>>735073238
>ends up having a foursome
it was worth it tbqh
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>>735064150
>with communism obviously presented as the "good" one
You shouldn't expect people to take you seriously when you make retarded posts that make it clear you haven't played the game.
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>>735060779
The political aspect is easily the worst part of this game so far. Literally just internet memes and the blandest safest lefty twitter takes on each, you can tell the author has nothing to say and just put politics in bc they were in Disco.
I understand stealing mechanics you thought were good from other games but setting yourself up for such a close comparison when you're clearly inferior is retarded.
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>>735064925
>"umm actually I was WRONG and genocide is LE BAD :)"
He literally says he stands be his decision. Are you retarded?
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>>735078964
>and the blandest safest lefty twitter takes on each
Supporting Nazbul ideology is the safest lefty twitter take?
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>>735065885
>as well as an amnesiac protagonist
What? The only thing he doesn't remember is his fall. He has normal memories otherwise.
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>>735069964
This is one of the ones that made me laugh the hardest.
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>>735070969
Come back after you free the snail.
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>>735073463
Wrong. Literal MIT STEMfags tried making video games specifically to avoid the numbers and focus on player agency and decision making. Only actual idiots like number bloat. That's how you end up with shitty Blizzard games.

>>735074753
The point of the stats is replayability for choosing different routes, and in EE a lot of failures are equally if not more entertaining. It's not like losing a combat encounter in a traditional cRPG.
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>>735080938
What dialogue is this?
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>>735073238
I was very surprised when it turned out that literally ALL OF THIS happened to him, I thought I was just picking a singular tragic backstory
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>>735081164
I don't remember exactly, but it's asking Snell why he's doing something and saying "Is X or Y the reason you're doing this?" and then you get what I posted.
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>>735079279
Its Nazgal, thank you very much
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>>735080938
I don't get it
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>>735083568
Logic should be INT/WIS
Inland Empire - WIS/CON
Every stat has a bit of Perception
Suggestion and Rhetoric - WIS/CHA
Composture - CHA
Electrochemistry - CON/DEX
Half Light - STR
Esprit De Corps - STR/INT/WIS
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>>735083568
Volition does not feel like a Wisdom stat though, in fact, outside of INT fluffing you and STR telling you you're built like 5 dudes, I don't think there's any thing telling you to keep going the way volition does
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>>735083480
20% of the time spent peeing, 80% spent pooping. Ragn's saying he's essentially a bit constipated
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>>735085016
lol, I get it now
a bit too hard for an ESL
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>>735085243
It's okay anon you'll get there. Some of these are quite hard but if it makes you feel hopeful the writer was a Swedish guy
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>>735077260
Nta but what did he say? That became my main item since it increased your speed.
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>>735066798
Only problem is it's genuinely badly written and made.
If EE's demo sold me on it, ZP's demo only raised red flags.
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I still wish I could kill her, or at least attempt to kill her. She quite literally successfully kills you once and tries to kill you repeatedly once you are resurrected. Where the hell is Ragn's rightful rage at this? He doesn't even consider this an option or have a thought about still going after her.
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>>735087625
That part felt awkward in a "Uh I wanted to put in an assassin but I kinda don't know what to do next and she's not relevant, so uhhh oh look here's 1.0"
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>>735070098
>>735070940
I bet you pussies don't even grapple. Which isn't even that bad either. Besides Thacky's primary problem was that it required you know what touch/vs range was and how AC subtracted not added which was the less intuitive part. It'd come up simultaneously on the tabletop and on the vidya games it would work it out for you.

Always felt like there's more common traps still in use today anyway. Percentile die always seem to trip people up especially where scoring with them is applied dark heresy style. Hell alignment as a base concept has been dogshit and failed in its original premise of teaching chainmail players how to actually make a character and its still fucking everywhere like D&D zodiac signs.
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>>735085560
>ESL
>yeah sorry my english isn't the best
>ESL, scandinavian
>Apologies, my brethren, for the Anglo language is not the language of my forefathers. I pray that this message will reach you without too many misunderstandings. Forsooth.
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I think people whose conception of art starts and stops at "What if X + Y?" should be killed (this is most of you and the people who made this garbage)
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>>735083568
Dunno if I'm the only one, but I feel like there is a good bit of Volition on STR
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Stop trying to present a false consensus with these threads. The game is full of meme dialogue and unironic millennial writing. Every other conversation is tongue-in-cheek. This in and of itself will turn a lot of people off.
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>>735088529
>and unironic millennial writing.
Yes, but it's old Newgrounds style humor and not modern reddit humor. If you don't know the difference, you're a brown kid who was late to the party trying too hard to fit in.
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>>735088604
Yes yes, I'm a shitskin jeet favela monkey for not wanting to read Reddit Bluesky memes in a video game. You win the argument.
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>>735088529
>false consensus
Just learnt a new word and trying to use it anywhere you can huh?
>The game is full of meme dialogue
Yeah. I think the game went a little to hard on the references. I remember at one point you take a treat out of the trans and it just plays out a seinfield scene verbatim. This one specifically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfrwgMMccrE
I thought the glass him one was alright. Put in well enough that unless you know it is a reference it will seem like any other option.
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>>735088140
>vidya
>art
lmao
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>>735088784
>Reddit Bluesky memes
Yes, thinking the game is faggy reddit memes does in fact make you an underage shitskin.
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>>735088852
I already agreed with you that I'm a coal black nigger ape jigaboo. That's what you wanted, correct? Yet here you are doubling down.
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>>735088852
>thinking the faggy redditcore podcastslop is faggy redditcore podcastslop makes you brown
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>>735088803
Whoops, wrong image
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>>735088940
Sarcasm doesn't make you sound clever, it just makes you sound cunty and butthurt.
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>>735088940
>>735089007
Get a room you two.
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>>735089039
The ultimate actually gay post.
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>>735066960
Huh, I didn't realize Clam Man 2 was going the disco route.
>Demo is almost 6 years old.
When IS it going to release?
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>>735087625
>>735087832
Why doesn't Ragn just fuck her? She's prime breeding age. Sure she's not ...big ...orc level but she can grow up to that size
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>>735089328
Soon, of course.
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>>735089620
>Giving the bratty assassin what she wants
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>>735089620
Rape correction should have been an option, yes.
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>>735089687
Domination Loss is a peak tag for a reason anon
>>735089773
I'm quite happy sending her to become a Cleric, but yes, it should have been
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>5 day time limit
>waitgating objectives
turned me off immediately
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>>735087353
He's intrigued by your choice of elven boots, and said that they should've been Urthguard boots.
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>>735090056
Urthguard should make better boots then but I can understand why he said that. Being a cobbler and all, I recall that he specifically talked about what kind of boots he gave his army at some point.
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>>735090227
Does he mention that they are made of babies foreskins?
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>>735090040
>waitgating
The only waitgates are the morning-specific content, repairing your book, and one more scenario where you have to wait around 8 hours. It's actually fairly easy to optimize how little you have to wait
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>>735085243
kys
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This game looks quirk-sloppy and masculine women-coded.
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>>735091387
yeah the way the goblin character is designed I half expect him to talk about how nonbinary he is for most of the game
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>>735060779
>the disco elysium fatal flaw of overwhelming the player with an enormous amount of possible choices to get started with as well as a time limit
not this fucking shit again please just take the god damn time limits away from these types of games, or give me a more guided linear path to follow from one event to the next
also it has no (usable) map
shit game
dialogue's funny though
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>>735091387
>-coded.
Only homosexual redditors talk like this.
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>>735091387
>coded
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>>735091471
He only does that when you drop your pants and demand he prove he's not infertile. And even then he only goes through with it if you fail a low DC INT check
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>>735091387
Yes
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>>735091387
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>>735087625
I agree, such a letdown. At least to me it seems the whole game was built around the political choices and not roleplaying choices in general.
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>>735077718
>>735071268
Go socialize with actual human beings you fucking troglodytes
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>>735091967
>please hang out with my and my xisters, no one does and we're on the verge of -ACK
KWAB
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>>735091881
>play this game
>aggressively refuse to take a political stance and insist upon being the most obnoxiously apolitical dickhead who constantly shouts IM APOLITICAL
>the game plays along with it at first
>but after a while you can clearly tell that the writers/devs/game itself is getting pissy at you for refusing to pick their favorite flavor of communism
>eventually the game tries to force you to pick one
>some absolute fucking chad of a programmer sneaked a hidden option in to tell the game to go fuck itself and you wont pick
>it just straight up breaks the game doing it and characters start breaking the 4th wall to complain
amazing
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>>735092170
>some absolute fucking chad of a programmer sneaked a hidden option in to tell the game to go fuck itself and you wont pick
>it just straight up breaks the game doing it and characters start breaking the 4th wall to complain
I doubt a rogue programmer did this but do you have any screenshots of this event? I haven't heard of this one yet.
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>>735092170
>Charisma being impressed when Sageleaf masterfully out-apoliticals you
God I love this stupid fucking game
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Asking for a bit of guidance but please no spoilers:

I'm on day 2 and I have found the tea shop owner and talked to the coinlord. I didnt take the oath so he wont let me enter the tea shop. I assumed the teashop owner would tell me a secret way into the shop but he didnt. He talked about some smuggling from below the shop but i cant figure out how to access it. Additionally i was following the man in yellow but after you kill the rock monster the south tunnel just loops back to the crocodile? I'm not sure where to go at this point.
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>>735073938
That made me crackle
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>>735092464
>He talked about some smuggling from below the shop but i cant figure out how to access it
Read the below at your own peril.
You are basically locked out of a majority of progression until you sit down and study the dwarfs axe for 3 outs to learn the spell that reveals secrets. It is a level 1 spell and the game gives you a ton of that grass that restores a level 1 spell slot. The game wants you to use this spell often.
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>>735061027
Its weird how dnd has grown further into roleplay shit and politics but the social system is barebones as all hell.
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>>735092464
You can break the door to the tea shop. Casting grease helps. Having a hammer from the dwarves equipped also helps. Or you can unlock it with the knock spell, it's somewhere underground, don't remember where exactly. If your INT is low you can also just guess the password.
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>>735092170
>game made by one guy
>rogue programmer
What did anon mean by this?
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>>735092769
>Made by one guy
This anon skipped the credits.
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>>735092758
i thought knock was for mundane locks
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>>735065567
Cleric is my favorite chud
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>>735092848
If it works it works.
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>>735092170
Post game time and hand.
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Despite my better judgement, you're the only people I can trust. What is this game actually like? The graphics and zesty goblin made me think it's pozzed as fuck: Niggers, stronk female characters, the writer's barely disguisted political opinions, the works; or is it a good game with none of that?
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>>735092464
The lockpick you found next to the rock monster helps, grease helps, STR equips help. You can reroll with shards of jor.
I got it on my STRlet run so you can too.
But yes, it's odd how troublesome it is to get in via the only other way, which iirc is locked behind wheedling it out of the bird to begin with.
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>>735093023
>>735092848
>>735092758
this worked thank you. It does say magical I am illiterate
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>>735092826
Contractors dont count
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>>735093191
>The graphics and zesty goblin made me think it's pozzed as fuck
You play as a certified up and coming monster fucker who wants to fuck all kinds of magical creatures, and the ultimate evil in this game's world is multiculturalism and foreign money undermining your sovereign ethnic nation-state. I did not encounter any out of place negros or any faggotry at all.
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>>735093232
contractors absolutely do count, why wouldn't they?
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>>735093287
Damn, that sounds good.
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>>735060779
The INT info dump is the best filter I've ever seen in an RPG.
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>>735093191
There's a demo, figure it out appleboy
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>>735093191
I dont remember a single nigger, there are women that are litteraly strong like orcs or angels, when it comes to politics depending on your choices and stats it can be most chud-friendly game in recent years
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>>735093191
Good game. I didn't see a single nigger. Maybe there are some minor things that might annoy you, although it wasn't an issue for me, but I'm sure you will find other things that will be pleasant to you.
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Your character has a mind control spell? How many options to use it?
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Kneel.
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>>735093889
What is she smiling about? A tea shop just blew up. Maybe she had something to do with it since she seems so happy about it.
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>>735093347
Because if you look at what programer contractors actually did they mostly fixed the code, stuff like pathfinding or hyperlinks. Its important stuff dont get me wrong but irrelevant to disscusion about story elements.
You could credit the editor Phil Jamesson, since outside editing he wrote some chimes and first drafts of scenes, but again its not the kind of content being talked about.
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>>735093947
She knows I hate the coinlord and the farstriders far more than the goblins.
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>>735060779
The writing doesn't even come close to Disco Elysium, the art style is shit both in comparison to DE and when judged in a vacuum and, honestly, it's fucking boring.
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>>735093889
Why can't we see her legs?
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>>735093884
Almost every combat encounter, few conversations
I didnt use it because STR told me it would be dishonorable, so i dont know specifics
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>>735094123
Because her legs are a bunch of tree roots, she is part plant and is hiding the fact.
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>>735093884
You can use it to make characters give you stuff or information, but they will remember it and hate you afterwards. Also powerful characters are immune. I only tried it a few times, it's not worth it. Kinda funny though.
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>>735093515
I refuse to play demo's, but thanks.
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>>735094128
I didn't use it either, but if the funny situations that happen when you fail to steal something is any indication. I am going to use it a bunch years from now when I play a strength+constitution build with int and charisma being the dump stat.
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>>735094020
I doubt it's worth hiring an IT contractor to fix hyperlinks.
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>>735093781
>>735093573
Thanks anons, I'll pick it up soon then.
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>>735094274
Cintributions of all the contractors are all on developer site
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>>735094385
>I'll pick it up soon then.
>soon
aka never.
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>>735094250
Why can't you ever reroll stealing something? You can reroll everything else in time.
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>>735094163
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Someone spoonfeed me the build for simple and non-spammy first playthrough.
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>>735094459
>Out of game.
Because if you fail again it would be awkward to have the entire failure sequence play again. A real man behind the curtain moment.
>in game
Because they are more on guard.
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>>735094105
I do not understand the amount of wanking DE gets.
It is a cynical and ugly game. Any lightheartedness must be forced by the player and it treats the player like a lunatic for picking the fun options in a videogame.
Like cool, everyone is a huge piece of shit and there is no hope in that setting.
It is so far up its own ass it's ridiculous.
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>>735094517
Strength+dex build and dump wisdom and int.
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>>735094163
>she is part plant
Spoilers but she is actually a dragon. You can find that out on Day 1 in fact.
>>735094517
Dex is probably the most important stat for an easy playthrough. I when dex/cha because I like talking my way out of things. But being able to just pickpocket your way through life is super nice. You get tons of items to enhance wisdom so it is likely the least important stat for your character sheet but very important overall.
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>>735094517
186/15/15/6/6
Or 18/6/15/6/15/6 if you don't want to read lore and prefer retardmaxxing.
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>>735094678
Yeah but wis is a fag and I want to minimize how much it speaks in my brain.
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>>735094678
I thought the dragon thing was a metaphor, not as in she is literally a dragon.
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>>735094517
All in on dex
Be a dick ass rogue
Pick everyone's pockets
Vote Freestriders
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>>735094784
Fuck over freestriders*
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>>735094517
Max str, max int, rest in con
You can acces basicaly all the content ingame with this
You get extra eq slots with str, with int you can steal using spell and thus ignore dex, and with con you wont have to die like a bitch during combat
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>>735092464
>spoiler
You can quite literally just lie to his face, it's not a big deal
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>>735094451
No, I don't have a backlog. I'm just in the middle of moving and life's hectic. It'll be the next game I play.
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>>735094757
No you can probe her for answers and she dismisses everyone but you, then you call her out and she admits the fact. She's extremely old and jujst wants to be worshiped by something. She is in fact a literal dragon.
>>735094754
That's why you don't put stats into it and just equip wisdom items when you need to pass a skill check, since there are a fuckton of them.
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>>735094105
Nah, you're gay and stupid.
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I noticed at some point I got an extra book slot, presumably from intmaxxing. I thought only STR gave extra equip slots? Do other stats give secret rewards at high investment too?
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>>735094904
That was her original motivation, actually, now she's there because she genuinely likes the ghablins
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>>735094904
>She's extremely old and jujst wants to be worshiped by something.
You're leaving out the important bit. She actually grew to love the goblins and genuinely wants to protect them because she sees them as her children.
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>>735094904
>spoiler
Huh. Well it seems like she is getting exactly what she wants. WAIT A SECOND That is why she has that aura of fear around her isn't it? It's because she is actually a high level dragon!
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>>735095107
>She actually grew to love the goblins and genuinely wants to protect them because she sees them as her children.
Is this the dragon equivlent of a human crazy cat lady?
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>>735094517
Ignore dex niggers, put all in INT and become god-king wizard that solves all of your problems casting spells
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>>735094579
> Any lightheartedness must be forced by the player and it treats the player like a lunatic for picking the fun options in a videogame
What the fuck are you talking about? DE is ridiculous even without the player deliberately picking the "silly" options.
Got nothing much to say about about the other two criticisms. You're kind of right on most characters being pieces of shit, and finding it pretentious is a you thing.
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>>735095213
I wonder what our god king wizard will eventually use that wish spell for.
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>>735094517
Lore cleric prebuilt is fine. int/wis allows you to understand and perceive things which is extremely useful for a first time playthrough.
In my opinion though if you are only playing the game once, str/wis primal cleric is probably the most appropriate choice as it seems like the closest fit to the current state of the cleric.
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>>735095318
LOVE ME
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>>735095318
He will use it to create a Sphinx Waifu of his own.
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>>735095318
You already can if you collect all the magical stones
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>>735095513
Oh, then what does he wish for in game?
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>>735095561
+5 to all stats
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>>735095492
Why is Ragn like this?
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>>735095610
Damn, Ragn sure is uncreative.
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Str>Cha>Dex>Con,Wis and Int dump. Is that okay?
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>>735095492
If ragn new from the outset that the goblin queen was a dragon he would be too hot and bothered to ever solve the tea shop mystery.
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What a nice guy he turns out to be.
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>>735095754
Also your new neighbor
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>>735095683
CHA is borderline useless and DEX is a giant fag.
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>>735095683
>dumping Int AND Wis
>Charisma with no int
>Strength but without Con focus
Anon... I feel like Cha just does not pair well with physical stats
>>735095648
He's a based monsterfucker
>>735095657
Everyone and their mother beat his head with a rock that using Wish for anything more complex than wealth in the best of cases may result in his body getting turned inside out or other horrible things, so you can hardly blame him. His 2nd wish though? I hope it's something fitting a God-King Cleric-Wizard
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>>735095143
If you behold her she's like level 31 which is absurdly above nearly everyone else in the game.
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>>735095945
>A level 31 letting a bureaucratic system crush her down.
Why is she like this?
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>>735096032
Bureaucratic System has no level, its like Lady of Pain
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>>735095492
>do a little jig
lmao
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>>735095208
Sounds based.
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>>735095945
Do we know Visken's true level? Also, isn't the sphinx above her?
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>>735095208
She only likes goblins because she's a green dragon and goblins are also green.
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Okay okay so your character is a based monsterfucker, but can you actually fuck the monsters or does he just have inappropriately lustful thoughts?
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>>735096557
He tries but every monster rejects his advances. Maybe someday he can fuck a beholder, perhaps in the sequel.
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>>735095945
Why are you lying?
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>>735096557
You can setup date with planned copulation afterwards, but date happens after you finish the game
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>>735096557
He can invite them to dates, well three of them, a semi-eldrich angel, bugbear and an orc, Sphinx rejects him and he seems too scared to ask a dragon out
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>>735096557
You can get a date with a bugbear, an orc and an angel. I'm not even a monster fucker but I felt real sadness over the fact that you can't date the sphinx, especially with how sweet she is when she lets you down.
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>>735095945
She is third oldest being ingame, what do you expect?
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>>735096482
If you believe Behold he's level 17.
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>>735096482
Okay, I went to check, Sageleaf is "only" level 18 which is probably still the highest in the game though Ever-Glad might be higher but I never passed the behold check, with Visken being level 16 and Otiz only at 14. Still, if we go by loose D&D rules they are all still extremely powerful.
>>735096695
yeah yeah my mistake.
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>>735095610
Since Ragn is able to absorb spells instantly once he is able to cast it at his spell level. Hypothetically, if he was to reach a high enough level. Couldn't he absorb Wish and just cast it repeatedly, getting a +5 to his stats every time he casts it?
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>>735097031
>Otiz
Who?
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>>735097245
If we go by dnd rules every time you use wish you can just lose acces to the spell forever. If he becomes so high level he better save it for something better. Also keep in mind his power is not absolute and one time he tried to learn a spell his eyes blew up, if he fucks up absorbing wish he could be just erased from existence
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>>735066554
I dunno the other fame but Rue Valley was not a good game
Interesting start, disappointing end
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Is there any time pressure in this game, or is it like Disco Elysium where time only passes when reading new dialogue and it's not possible to be "too slow" in any way?
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>>735097965
>it like Disco Elysium where time only passes when reading new dialogue and it's not possible to be "too slow" in any way
this
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>>735098130
Thank god, that makes it 1000x comfier.
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I fucking love this game it is easily 10/10 but is anyone else frustrated with the time mechanic? I feel like I have to skip a lot of shit just in the sake of time management. I realize the purpose is to play through multiple times but that isn't my style. I found a way to freeze time in memory with cheat engine but I'm not sure if I should... haven't done it yet. What does everyone think about the time mechanic? Would I ruin my experience by freezing time progression for a period each day in an attempt to see everything I want to see?
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>>735060779
This game is woke as shit, far more than DE was. It's actually astounding to me how fucking stupid you guys are.
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>>735098412
Mate I read everything including the "Spend 90 minutes to read this completely pointless readable" or unrolling all the word vomit that halfling pukes at you if you keep prodding him on my first go and still made it in five days without issues, you'll be fine.
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>>735095825
I desperately want to play this sequel
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>>735098671
The credits imply a sequel. Something that takes place a few years after this game.
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>>735098412
There is enough time for every quest in the game, just don't timeskip too much
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>>735098412
from what i hear there might be a big update coming soon so you'll probably replay it anyway?

>>735098438
You're a seething nigger. We know.
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>>735098731
Years or months
Any predictions about the content in sequel?
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>>735098848
It ruins everything.
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>>735096695
>Green dragons are lawful evil by default
>She's shifted to chaotic good
WHAT THE HECK GET SNURRE IN HERE
Unless.... UNLESS.......
INT DC5: FAILURE
What if she's a brass dragon with a patina? They're talkative, they brap, and they're chaotic good. It all adds up


>>735097031
I can't remember off the top of my head but I think the big dick celestial might be higher level
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>>735098974
like dragon like goblins
evil dragons that didn't like humans got killed during the fade era wars
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>>735098412
>I fucking love this game it is easily 10/10 but is anyone else frustrated with the time mechanic?
No. I genuinely appreciate time limits in RPGs and I wish more of them had them. I'm still mad that Owlcat had tons of timed quests in Kingmaker to light a fire under your fucking ass and then backed away from that in WotR and Rogue Trader. A time limit makes your resources more precious, stops you from over-resting or otherwise fucking around to soak up the entire game in one go, makes the game world more believable when some emergency quest won't just wait for you, etc etc etc.
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>>735098736
Maybe if you don't sleep there is enough time for everything? I think you've skipped a massive chunk of the game friend if you had no problems.
>>735098785
Fair point.
>>735099326
You might be right. I'll hold off for now and try my best to reach everything I can. Time crunches are so stressful though. Have to deal with that all the time at work.
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>>735061717
Moralism is the setting's equivalent of centrism and its worst sin in DE's setting is apathy, indecisiveness and sorta enforcing a status quo IIRC. The other ideologies are shat on harder
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>>735098974
Celestial-Sama is level 17, just like Visken iirc. I remember the first time I saw him I thought he was one of the gay diplomats because I hadn't found the prince yet
>>735099118
Pretty much this, all the Bad Dragons got bent during the human uprising.
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>>735099441
>maybe if you don't sleep
You get a rather generous amount of time even taking an 8 hour brap sesh (long rest) and doing 1 hour chats every day to heal. I beat the game on the 4th day going onto the 5th pulling an all-nighter so there's certainly enough spare hours. The issue is more so discovering all the funny meme secrets on time requires actually good routing and lucky behold rolls. I'm tempted to see if a save can be modded like Disco for Maximum-Schizophrenia, but it's not as fun with no voice acting
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>>735071249
I'll try it then. Thanks for the info.
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>>735060779
Can you learn who is the bf of the halfling girl at the temple?
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>>735098438
Post hand and game time.
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>>735093889
https://files.catbox.moe/s47hm3.mp4
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>>735095513
Where are the other stones besides WIS and CON?
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>>735065752
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>>735065567
On what planet is Ettir fat and ugly?
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How do I progress in the dungeon? After the rock monster the place loops back in on itself. How do I find the man in yellow?
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>>735103534
give the cat info to the dwarf
get detect secrets from the reward
cast detect secrets to find the stairs
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>>735103534
You have to go deeper
to do that you either have to find hag or use detect secrets
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>>735102768
They don't exist.
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I'm having fun
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>>735104060
I loved this dude's succubus joke. It's honestly a top tier fantasy joke.
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>>735104060
Fun is outlawed.
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>>735104254
post it
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>play something else
>"i wish i was in Norvik right now"
I need my sequel, Chris.
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>>735105771
Playing games after EE makes me miss Ragn's whimsy. Need more of that in a protagonist.
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>complete the game in 3 days (32 hours)
>don't want to play anything now because it won't be as fun
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>>735087930
It's counter intuitive to most of DnD mechanics where bigger = better
It's also counter intuitive to the lizard brain who wants to grow stats and get bigger numbers across the board
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>>735107514
>>735106424
>>735105771
Based game enjoyers
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>>735106424
Fantasy settings with whimsical protagonists are kino.
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>>735108708
>0.8% said something nationalistic 12 times
grim
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>leave the thread
>saw the DLSS5 abomination
Thank Urth for indie games
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>>735113003
I just saw that. Mother of God, we live in the worst timeline.
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>>735107514
I'm extremely concerned by this. Makes me not want to finish it.
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>name the hot mushroom dark elf with white hair literally nee-san
>dont even give the option to flirt with her
why? I do not care if she has a tree sugar daddy man, let me date her
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>>735115204
Sorry but she only takes tree dick.
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>>735115204
>no option to slap her ass as a greeting
WHAT EVEN IS THE POINT OF THIS GAME
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>>735115175
That post-finish emptiness is real, but dragging it out won’t save you from it. You’re just postponing the inevitable, anon.

If anything, finishing it is better. The last stretch hits hard and actually gives you some closure instead of just blueballing yourself forever in Act 3. The “nothing else feels as good” phase lasts like a week and then you either replay it with a scuffed build or start chasing the next high.

Don’t turn a great game into Schrödinger’s masterpiece because you’re scared of post-game depression. Beat it. Let it ruin you properly.
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>>735115312
She says shes just abusing an elderly tree tho, with me, it would be real
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>>735115312
Try finishing the game and talking to her. She's leading him on and placating him. That's it.
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>>735071027
>Orcs can't be rapist or use slurs.
Really? Because the orcs in my game do both of those things. Sounds like an issue with you and your group and not the game itself
because DnD is a fucking toolkit that you can use to play however you want
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>>735115507
>>735115531
Did you not complete the game yet? She's very clearly flirting with the tree on the election day the entire time. She's lying about leading him on.
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>>735115728
>She's very clearly flirting with the tree on the election day the entire time.
You're an idiot.
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>>735115773
She says she only flirts with him for 10 minutes every month but on election day they've been clearly flirting for hours. Keep coping.
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>>735115728
tree branches typed this
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>>735115997
>Keep coping.
You're a retarded brown child.
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>>735095718
>the game literally calls her a dragon
>when you see her it goes out of its way to say HEY SHES GOT A FEAR AURA AROUND HER, YOU KNOW LIKE DRAGONS? AN AURA OF FEAR? BETTER ROLL CONSTITUTION TO RESIST NIGGUH
>she is very, very, very fucking obviously a hell of a lot smarter than every single other goblin you run into
>one of the rooms has a literal treasure horde in it
>she regards the whole thing as her property in an extremely prideful arrogant way
it could not be more fucking obvious that shes a dragon, the game beats you over the head with it
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>>735113003
>He doesn't want Chadvidia to remove woke and give Snell the giant pendulous tits a trve player's companion deserves
Sir do not redeem the luddite
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>>735115507
>>735115531
>>735115728
>>735115773
>>735116136
She's very clearly embarrassed that she's a tree-sexual when you bring up her proclivities to her, she's pretty much misdirecting you until she finds out you're chill like that
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>>735061027
To me DnD is like 3 different fun games all squished together that can only really meet it's full potential with a strong group and a DM who puts in effort. Videogames typically can't capture the entirety of all the facets of a campaign but if you tear them apart into little, focused indie games I generally find myself enjoying them compared to big studio CRPGs that try to do everything.

This captures the "fucking around in the fantasy city" aspect. I'm honestly not a fan of the artstyle though. The Town and monsters are alright if a bit generic, I just don't like the people that much.
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>>735102360
Anon, why.
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>>735117693
some people just want to watch the world burn
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>>735093889
Anotha one
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>>735095318
Me personally? I'd use it to be able to sniff the Sphinx's asshole.
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>>735115204
Character Reference used to be good
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>>735060779
Who is casting speak with the dead (its clearly speak with the dead, you are dead and there are five questions) on the Cleric at the start of the game? Person talking to ragn is named Jor, but he wouldn't need to cast a spell to know it all.
Is it Visken?
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>>735117693
Something like 3 minutes to gen the video and 20 seconds to gen the audio is a fairly small amount of time for the average shitpost, I'd say? As for why, you may not believe me but just for a giggle and to see how it would turn out. I did do a few passes on the audio until I got some Donald Duck results. Sometimes you gotta listen to what your chimes tell you, anon.

>>735118991
Huh. That's a nice catch, I could've sworn there were more than 5 questions but I wasn't paying that close attention to it at the start either. Would need to look at the questions to try to piece it together.
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>>735118139
>AIslop
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>>735091967
Why are you niggers so transparent. You don't blend in at all.
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>>735119128
"Jor" says
>Truth and nothing else
>What is your name?
>What is your occupation?
>What is your current goal?
>What is your political affiliation?
>How did you die?
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>>735116968
>She's very clearly embarrassed that she's a tree-sexual when you bring up her proclivities to her
No, she's very clearly not, you fucking idiot.
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>>735119621
Maybe it is Jor and it was all part of his magic fuckery? He is passive participant during paladin confrontation, so maybe this is just him starting to pay attention to Ragn?
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>>735119621
Hmm. Asking how you died is the most suspicious of the lot. There's also the fact that questions asked with speak with dead aren't known to the person even if they're raised after the fact, which may technically be the case since I don't know if Ragn remembers the intro sequence or if just (You) do. There's another knock against it being Visken since he can't/won't/doesn't teach you speak with dead which would be less suspicious and incriminating than where he sends you to learn the spell, which would IMPLY he doesn't know the spell himself.
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100% organic thread
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>>735120225
I'm not buying Deltarune, anon. Please see yourself out
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>>735084952
CON or STR is probably the closest
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>>735110571
nationalisum is gay and lame unless its tied up with workers rights which in this game it isnt. Nationalisum in this game is basically wanting a monarchy but you are also educated enough to know your rulers are self serving assholes. Its 100% the retard choice in this situation.

I would argue the devs simply are not able to grasp nationalism and right point of views at all, but they clearly tried and thats good enough.
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>>735087625
I revealed her bullshit to her dad as that was the closest alternative to telling her to go fuck herself. The rest of her family including The Duck finding her to be an immense disappointment for failing to beat you was also kind of humorous
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>>735093889
I will help my home boy Snell score with her
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>>735120112
Your soul is so tightly bound by the strings of Jor that it is implied you would remember them though
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Got a date with nice orc lady
Are there any other mountains to climb?
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>>735122410
ANON NO
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>>735122410
You must try and fail to date the sphinx. Best girl is Ettir.
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>>735122410
>Moongore
>Ettir
Wish there was a secret romance somewhere
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Finished the Young and Dumb quest and internalizing the argument between strength and wisdom. Holy shit Wisdom is such a little bitch. Really funny how Strength is stoic and direct while Wisdom is flailing and name calling anything you disagree with.
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Snell you little fuck you're on my shitlist after you kept your options open with the mongolians
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>>735124894
Wisdom is very liberal coded
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>>735125182
Wisdom is literally woman coded.
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>You can show Urth the spent spell slot ring you found in the crack of his temple.
>You can put the ring back to the place where you found it on the election day to inspire the next poor schmuck who may have to go on a quest like Ragn.
Kino
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>>735125228
Wisdom being the way it is makes a LOT of sense once you learn more about Ragn's mother... Poor fucker never stood a chance.
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So ends Ragn's adventure, killed in the dungeon
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>>735124894
STR and INT are the most based. Cha is useful for tricking people and getting dates. Dex is jewish. WIS is gay. CON is just stupid.
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>randomly find a halfling with a glorious mustache in a house
>spend the next 3 hours being ranted at about how women are fucking retarded bandwagoners who self sabotage constantly because they're fucking idiots
>and that love is bullshit and angels are actually evil
i fucking love this god damn halfling
scholar snurre appledent you are a chad of chads
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>>735126397
AND AS IF THAT WASNT ENOUGH NOW HES GETTING INTO WHY MISCEGENATION IS BULLSHIT AND A COMPLETE LIE PUSHED BY SOCIETAL POWERS THAT BE FOR DEMOGRAPHIC CONTROL JESUS FUCK I LOVE THIS HALFLING
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>>735126249
CON is a high instincts grug, you just can't trust him for anything normal
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>>735126615
CON has by far the least dialogue of the different stats though so it's hard to like it.
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>>735124415
I should be able to cure the sphinx of her hikomori ways or at least date her on her little stoop.
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>>735126664
I kinda hope the appleboy that said he was going to go max CON and barbarian reports on his adventures at some point since I am curious if there's some juicy stuff at really high levels. It's my second highest stat and it's fun WITH stuff but does feel like it wouldn't really carry a run itself
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>>735126584
He's based but god does he eat your time
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>>735126862
I really wanted an option to leap on her and hug her and tell her you would live the rest of your life in that bar.
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>>735126664
>>735126880
CON is useful in fights to a ridiculous degree to stop eating exhaustion but yeah it's generally not something that comes up often in conversation outside of two NPCs, since there's no agrarian party to really motivate APPLEBOY to give us a political dissertation
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>>735126967
Aren't there a bunch of CON checks when meeting certain NPCs or are those just to avoid damage?
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>>735127030
>>735126967
You can use CON to show your superiority to the fireplace's spirit.
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>>735127030
>>735127519
CON was mostly used for damage instances in that case, like the crocdogs
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You know, I haven't considered it before. But do you have to spend the points at charecter creation or can you dump all of the stats and make ragn the most built incorrectly guy in existence?
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>>735104254
The punchline really puts the entire set up in perspective. It was a good joke.
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>>735128287
You have to spend them to continue.
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>>735115204
You know mushrooms don't scare me, snakes don't scare me, I actually like spiders, but snails and slugs freak me right the fuck out. I freeze whenever I see one in real life. I do not know why they short-circuit my brain but they do.
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>>735126019
What did Ragns mother do that was so bad anyways?
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>>735128312
Dang, that stinks.
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>>735128379
>Anon looks at a dark elf druid and immediately starts thinking about snail trails
Hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>735128610
Not give him his proper right of ascension into manhood.
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>>735128664
The first thing I think about is those love handles, but after looking at her design more closely I saw the snail on her hat.
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>>735128379
You dropped these, my complex king.
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>>735066554
Fuck I've made shit over a week for SS13 that's had more players than 158. That's rough man.
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>>735128610
>never home
>famous novelist
>azgalian philosopher
>votes nationalist
>single mother
>lives with Ragn despite Ragn making sufficient wage to live alone
What DIDN'T she do to him?
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>>735066554
The screenshots do a poort job of selling the syndicate one.
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>>735130971
I remember reading earlier that while the minotaur nigga was well written all the other guys weren't, at least on the forums
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>>735131137
None of the text displayed inspires confidence.
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>>735087625
RAILROAD. BAD DM!
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Something I don't get is the food mechanic. Why are there more apples than you'll ever need, to the point any health you lose doesn't matter as long as it doesn't kill you? But then there's a stomach size mechanic that means you can't eat *pastries*, but *apples* is fine? Did I miss something here, was there a hidden apple limit I never crossed?
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>>735124415
nessan is the only character to hit on you, and you can only imply you're not interested, which was very weird
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>>735131839
YOU ARE THE APPLEBOY. BORN TO EAT APPLES, FORCED TO BE THE CLERIC
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>>735131839
Ragn just really likes apples
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>>735131839
APPLEBOY
Also, I think it's because you can't heal in dialogue the same way you can in Disco
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>>735131839
There's nothing to get beyond "health isn't important". Most story fights can easily empty a high CON health pool if you lose initiative and you can't eat apples during them.
>>735132003
You can, but you need to use spells. But there are more spell regen items than you'll use spells in the game and the game does let you spend them contextually if your slots are used up even mid fight, so you can just smoke incense every mid turn for one instant.
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>>735066406
Anon, I want to hate the game too because it's not my cup of tea and I'm a crusty old man, but those are excellent numbers for an indie game. He probably made well over 500k dollarydoos.

>But he didn't make gorillion dollars like Undytale!
Not every game has to be a massive success.
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>>735132324
>I want to hate
You have to let go dotard.
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>>735132413
After 20(!) years on this site, all I have left is hatred.
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>>735132324
500k at 20 bucks a sell is 25k copies. More because he doesn't get 100% of the cash. The publisher threw him a bunch of investments but that means they take a cut too, plus contractors, presumably on scandinavian wage standards. Unless he just knows their staff from uni or something.
Given it's a niche title, is 4k concurrent really enough to extrapolate that?
I know there's some metrics to roughly convert reviews but I don't know what the numbers run.

>>735132437
Well, what did you like that made you check out this thread? Surely not the bait DE threads. Surely you still like SOME video games.
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>>735132324
>>735132631
We will know if it is a success or not if the guy makes another game. If he doesn't we know it was a failure, if he does then we know it was a success.
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>>735132712
By that logic Darkwood should have had a sequel out years ago. Instead acid wizards disbanded.
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>>735132749
I didn't hear about them disbanding, I figured Darkwood was a one and done type of creative endeavor. A shame they didn't make anything else though even if it wasn't in the Darkwood setting again.
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>>735132631
>Well, what did you like that made you check out this thread?
I like rpgs, but I also like getting mad about rpgs I don't like. It's a terrible existence.
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If I go into the piller that's the end of the game right? I feel I should stick around till day 5 to see how things play out in the election. It's currently day 4 morning and I got nothing to do. Does the dungeon go deeper then the big green guy?
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>>735133410
>If I go into the piller that's the end of the game right?
No.
>Does the dungeon go deeper then the big green guy?
He's blue but unless I missed something then that is as far down as you can go.
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>>735087625
She is a nepo baby, if you vote nationalist or freetrannys THIS is what you are protecting. A class above you that does whatever it wants.
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>>735133472
No I mean the big dude after the assassin final confrontation

>No
Oh, so the game just keeps going? It told me to finish up all my quests before going in I assumed it was the end.
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>>735132631
It sold around 120k copies if gamalytic can be trusted
Which seems more than fine for an indie CRPG by an unknown solodev
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>>735133558
>Oh, so the game just keeps going?
Look if you actually want me to spoil it
You enter the pillar and talk to your god, then you are kicked out of the pillar to talk to people and vote. Voting is the final thing you do in the game.
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>>735133930
Frankly I didn't need a reminder my vote has no impact whatsoever on future policy because the money already changed hands.
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>>735069964
For me it was calling that dwarf a snitch in the printing press room
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>>735132631
>>735133781
It was top 11 most selling Steam game (3-10 March) iirc
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>>735126880
Not the anon you're talking about, but there are a bunch of high con checks that mention the ignorant flame and FIFTY-FIFTY
There is a CON 30 check with Ettir on day 1 that I haven't gotten, but CON 20 and CON 25 are certain that she'll eventually be the cause of your death
When talking to the snail about spoiler]chronomancy's impossibility, there is a CON check that shows that it doesn't apply to you
When talking to Gorm at the end, you get a CON 30 check, which shows you that JOR is watching and allows you to briefly talk to him
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>>735134462
The vote isn't so important as Ragn's apotheosis that happens during the vote.
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>>735060779
Does magical regeneration leave scars in dnd? If yes i think reason why Ragn doesnt take is helmet off is because he has massive scarrs arround (or maybe on) his eyes after they blew up and he is self conscious about them
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>>735137589
>she'll eventually be the cause of your death
Wait what? And they never elaborate on this?
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>>735137974
The CON 30 check is right after those 2, so maybe it does, but otherwise no.
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>>735138034
>>735137974
Thats whats hidden behind the check
>A glorious sacrifice. A fray. An END. How far a woman can bring a man, to see... to feel his end upon their meeting. This is how you will die, if things come to pass.
I don't know if after previous levels of this chime STR always says something, but if you pass 30DC it says that what CON said was awesome and its basicaly into giving up its life for an Angel
STR is based as always
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>>735137589
Jor event also mentions ignorant flame what the fuck is it?
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>>735137589
>chronomancy's impossibility,
Motherfucker, I was INT-CON and I missed that.
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>dying for Ettir
Not even upset about it desu.
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>>735137589
>it doesn't apply to you
Damn, they better not make it all about time travel
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"Time travel" is you savescumming
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God Wizard King Ragn would never die for a w*man.
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>>735131839
Devouring that bucket of apples awakened an esoteric relation between you and apple consumption, APPLEBOY
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>>735115204
Ragn has a type, that type is someone who can toss him around like a ragdoll, Nessan can't toss him around like a ragdoll, at least not with her own strength
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>>735115204
>literally nee-san
Her name is based on a Scandinavian folklore spirit you retarded weeb.
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>>735138334
I never really understood what it meant, but FIFTY-FIFTY at least seems to be godhood
If you bring Tol's sword to Urth you'll get a lore dump about how Tol and the outer gods are alive in the wastes so maybe it's related to that? Though it could also be about the bloodtounge prophecy
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>>735139006
>Tol Spoiler
Can you post it? It kinda sucks that lore like this is locked behind RNG, since im sure you can only get Tol Sword by using the deck.
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>>735139848
There is a hell of a lot of dialogue, and I'm too lazy to post all of it.
You can savescum the deck of many things by talking to the dwarf near the freestrider HQ and asking him to shuffle the deck. Just save before asking him, and then reload if the new deck isn't what you want.
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>>735140176
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Did Ragn ascend to demi-godhood when he casted his vote since it's the first time he saw the probability Urth mentioned?
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>>735140176
Thanks for the tip
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>>735132324
>>735132712
For a passion project 4-5k is pretty good considering it's one of those things that get more popularity as time goes on and word of mouth spreads. All things considered, this is a good game even if it isn't to every anon's taste. Very competent text RPG/point-click adventure
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>>735137589
>30 Con check day one
That's pretty hilarious
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>>735138274
Can't this be interpreted as your stats saying something akin to
>this is a woman I can see building a life with
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>>735140259
>those responses
Is Ragn uniquely quest-brained or are Clerics trained like dogs to wag their metaphorical tail at the mention of quests?
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>>735140596
I hope its the second, because the thought of coinlord's daughter acting like Ragn after her training is hilarious
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>>735140468
Let's see
18 Start (16 + 2, there's no +3 CON start)
Get the Ginger drink in the pillar +1
There's the Mace, the skeleton helm, the fist charm. You can probably get level 3 day 1, for +2. I doubt you can go all the way to the ioun stone day 1.
Where is the +2 CON readable again?
You still seem like you'll be short. for 30.
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>>735140720
Does it actualy have to be day 1? What if you just ignore her until you have 30 CON
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>>735140720
You can buy a 1 con readable from the news boy but I think it might be possible to skip the first day entirely since it's a passive check? So use day 1 +2 and short rest the exhaustion away to avoid the first meeting with Ettir?
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>>735140673
This is a very funny idea to me as well
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>>735140802
I don't remember the rules that govern long rest or the triggers for her to be in the garden before you meet the coinlord.
>>735140807
Maybe. There aren't that many CON stats potion around that I recall, though. But if you hold until day 2, it means you can go to the sphinx while no one's there. Which I think gives leyline hook that boosts item stats.
I don't recall which feat bumps up readables, it's a blue one but you might get that two.
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>>735141014
all of the feats improving gear are possible only after the first day
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If you're a CONlord and a dead body, why do you need to rest?
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>>735087520
For me it was the opposite, Esoteric Ebb has that reddit/marvelshit ironic veneer that I can't stand
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>>735137596
>mfw my God voted for the fucking Agrarian party, not even Azgalists, just threw his vote away
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>>735142538
Unironically better than voting for a corrupt party.
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>>735060779
I'm sure this is a good game, but, alas, the disgusting quirk chungus redditcore artstyle means that I'll never play it.
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>>735143357
I also thought the same but then I said "fuck it, I'll pirate it and try it" and it hooked me.
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>>735133478
I voted for my friend
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>>735145141
That was tempting, but I also wondered if Snell would even want that.
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>>735145493
I think it'd be a bit of good and bad to him given how he feels goblins are viewed and how Urth says he could be a great leader for his people. If he actually did win by some esoteric means he'd be panic and think it was utterly absurd but then potentially step up

For me it was more how I felt my Ragn would vote since he was apolitical and voting for his friend was more meaningful to him personally. Thought it also went humorously with what Snell says right before telling you to not vote for anything stupid
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>>735145771
Snell was tempting fate there, lets be real
Also I dunno if he even wants to be a leader, he is VERY devoted to Sageleaf to a point where I doubt he would want any position higher than hers
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Just got the game, is a stat spread like 17, 16, 15, with the rest at 6, the way to go?
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>>735145921
18/6/15/15/6/6
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>>735145921
Yeah game itself even says that you should get a main stat
STR is the funniest one, btw
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>>735145853
I think Sageleaf herself is somewhat trying to guide him towards such a route. Maybe not that level personally but if it did happen she'd support him which would be what gives him the extra kick to step up for the role.
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>>735141616
I find that many say this but usually can't give the breakdown as to why they feel like that. It's okay though, you're allowed to dislike somethings
>>735146123
Personally I thought INT was the funniest, though STR was based. INT is such a hilarious megalomaniac that you get truly get the no sense of right or wrong experience
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>>735145853
Responsibility often times falls upon those who don't want it. A real MAN takes it on anyway!
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>>735146234
This was my impression as well
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Well, I beat the game. Good shit. There's a couple quests I never managed to complete and one I somehow managed to never properly start despite it seeming really basic (the milk delivery one), but I found a bunch of secrets and generally felt satisfied with my experience. I went for the most egotistical combo of INT + DEX and it was enjoyable but DEX wasn't really that fun in the end. Wish I'd done INT + STR instead, but ah well. I think I trivialized a lot of the dungeon stuff because I basically only ever started doing it on day 3 and having Ettir around makes shit real easy.
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>>735145141
>"Dumbass! I don't you not to vote for something stupid!"
>"I didn't."
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>>735131908
>Appleboy art
>he stole the dwarven belt
Why would he do that?
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>>735147538
I'm still wondering where to get the bag of holding
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>>735147742
Secret room in tea shop.
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>>735102360
Moar
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>>735147742
Drummer's smuggling stash that you can access in a secret tile inside Urth's temple.
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>>735061027
Normies have no imagination so they depend on being spoon fed “stories”.
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>>735061589
Bet they don’t let me TND.
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>>735061027
>Caring about the politics and not QUESTING
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>>735151920
My quest is to ask everyone who'll they vote for so I can tell them for who I'll vote for. I'm apolitical.
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>>735115648
Yeah but there's a million toolkits and you play the one where you have to throw out half the tools and then put the others in acid to sand out all the AIDS-infested FAECES on your fucking tools and borrow some from better toolkits to be able to do anything useful with them.

If you'd actually played games you'd know, and i'm not just talking politics modern dnd is a shit ttrpg too.
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>>735092464
If you skip the entire sequence and never meet the guy on the first day,(and ignore Ettir as well) Sleeping by walking through anomaly door in crossroads, or just waiting it out by spending the time on whatever. You just get the key and access to the place without the need to talk to coinlord.
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>>735149538
I missed so much my first run huh
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>>735155523
So I guess you just need to mod in 30+ CON then
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>>735155947
Skill issue. Should've guessed that it's super cool and mysterious local Shivers analogue of a stat and main it on your first playthrough.
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>>735156331
It's pretty much impossible to hit that on your first day though
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>>735060779
How evil can you be in this game?
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>>735156575
Some people apparently managed to finish the game on day 1, so it should be possible to get the CON stone and the heart trinket that gives 2 CON, but I dunno if it allows you to get all the other necessary things in time.
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>>735156878
The most evil thing you can do is vote libertarian
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>>735157053
The fuck?
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>>735156937
But how can you do that without entering the tea shop? Unless you luck your way into knock
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>>735157502
Rushing detect secrets, apparently.
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>>735157502
I assume it's using the secret passage at the back of the shop
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>>735156878
Not like hard evil from what I have seen but you can be kinda "evil" like supposedly killing innocents for a morally "good" plan and teaming up with an Aboleth / eldirtch thing. You can also beat up teenagers



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